| gamerchick02 | maybe | 00:10 |
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| gamerchick02 | a cat with allergies sounds funny. i'm sorry. | 00:28 |
| cmaloney | No worries. She's our special little exception | 00:34 |
| gamerchick02 | :) | 00:37 |
| gamerchick02 | it's 20 out. ooof. | 00:37 |
| jrwren | looked through a dell catalog at my inlaws. i hadno idea their tablets are x86 atom based. I would like to get one and try ubuntu on it. What do ya'll think? | 02:09 |
| rick_h_ | very interested in it with the dual app screen business, but not sure it's far enough along yet. | 02:10 |
| cmaloney | Hm, I probably shouldn't have an extension .jason should I? :) | 02:18 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 02:19 |
| greg-g | buddy: "Do you think ADD exists?" | 05:44 |
| greg-g | <little bit of discussion, we talk about some other things as well> | 05:44 |
| greg-g | me: so what brought up the ADD question? | 05:45 |
| greg-g | buddy: "Random side tangent on Reddit in an unrelated thread." | 05:45 |
| cmaloney | Good morning | 12:46 |
| cmaloney | greg-g: hah | 12:46 |
| rick_h_ | morning | 12:48 |
| brousch | rick_h_: Time to switch to Django! http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/10/python-web-pep8-consistency.html | 13:02 |
| rick_h_ | heh, they must have had a refactoring in the last year | 13:03 |
| rick_h_ | last time I went in there I about had a fit and rolled on the floor for a while | 13:03 |
| brousch | Didn't this come up when you interviewed Pyramid guy? | 13:03 |
| rick_h_ | pep8? yea. | 13:04 |
| rick_h_ | the debate is consistancy over making the move | 13:04 |
| rick_h_ | until you decide to go all pep8, you have to match the rules of the problem. So it just builds on itself over time | 13:04 |
| brousch | What did he ignore? Was it line length? | 13:04 |
| rick_h_ | oh a few things I'm sure. I don't recall we went down the list | 13:05 |
| brousch | I think line length was one. I found it extra amusing because of the PyOhio conversations | 13:06 |
| brousch | Pyramid fares much better on http://mindref.blogspot.com/2012/11/python-web-excessive-complexity.html | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | meh, those blog posts are all just that wheezy guy trying to point out this his stuff is cool | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | wish him luck on gaining traction or whatever, but he's just about doing charts that show wheezy at the low end | 13:10 |
| cmaloney | Question: why is an article from 2012 showing up on the planet in 2013? :) | 13:18 |
| cmaloney | Also: Full Text Feeds are A+. Let's do more of those. | 13:19 |
| brousch | rick_h_: I've never heard of wheezy | 13:24 |
| cmaloney | brousch: He's the dwarf that never calls and never writes. | 13:25 |
| brousch | cmaloney: Old feeds popping up is usually due to someone touching their blog platform in a way that resets their RSS feed | 13:25 |
| cmaloney | brousch: I know. Just being a dork. | 13:25 |
| brousch | Speaking of dorks, did you play Ogre yet? | 13:26 |
| cmaloney | No. I have to figure out where to put the damn thing first. | 13:27 |
| cmaloney | I think we're also going to have an Ogre assembly party. | 13:27 |
| cmaloney | This is the one item that really cemented that I have a kickstarter problem. :) | 13:28 |
| cmaloney | But to my defense it was one of my early kickstarters | 13:28 |
| brousch | I have curbed my kickstarter habit by only looking at ones that other people have mentioned. Do not search the site yourself | 13:29 |
| cmaloney | No, that would be bad. | 13:29 |
| brousch | Question of the day http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20192246/is-there-a-java-replacement-for-kivy | 13:53 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, still no kitkat. :-/ | 14:56 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: :( | 14:56 |
| jcastro | I'm kind of meh about kitkat anyway | 15:05 |
| jcastro | I mean, there's nothing really big in it afaict | 15:05 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: yea, I was curious how it was on a N4 | 15:06 |
| jcastro | you got it on your X right? | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | honestly, not a lot to see or notice. Even the 'improved battery life' is meh | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | maybe a few percent? | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 15:06 |
| jcastro | yeah | 15:06 |
| jcastro | at the end of the day they can't fix my phone running java | 15:06 |
| jcastro | :p | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | and really, the only thing to see is the grey icons a bit. | 15:06 |
| jcastro | I might get a Moto G in Jan though, to free up the N4 for ubuntu | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | why not get a N5? | 15:08 |
| jcastro | and tbh, the sculpted look of the moto you have is just too awesome to ignore | 15:08 |
| jcastro | I don't really see the justification to spend that much tbh' | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I do <3 the feel. I checked out waf's N5 and honestly I'm really happy with the size and hand feel of the X | 15:08 |
| rick_h_ | though I want to put it in a case because of the $$, but then I lose the awesome feel so I'm running free | 15:08 |
| jcastro | these days I am finding hard to justify the price for the top tier phones | 15:09 |
| jcastro | I really don't care that much | 15:09 |
| jcastro | it'd be nice to go mid-tier for a while | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I got the wife a droid mini and just let it be | 15:09 |
| rick_h_ | she's happy | 15:09 |
| jcastro | at $179 full price though for the G | 15:09 |
| jcastro | that's pretty much epic | 15:09 |
| jcastro | the hw is basically N4ish | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I want to see one | 15:10 |
| jcastro | and the N4 is still no slouch | 15:10 |
| rick_h_ | heh, and I see the DE motox went down $100 | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | oh well | 15:11 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.androidcentral.com/motorola-offer-factory-images-developer-editions-not-void-warranties made me happy though | 15:13 |
| jcastro | yeah that is awesome | 15:13 |
| jcastro | so basically, the need for your phone goes away | 15:14 |
| jcastro | I wonder if the motorola guys are like "let's be better nexuses than Nexuses" | 15:14 |
| jcastro | That's a motto I can get behind | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | sure seems like it atm | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | and on verizon to boot | 15:14 |
| rick_h_ | we'll see when the next os update comes around what happens | 15:15 |
| rick_h_ | that'll be the true test | 15:15 |
| brousch | I'm happy with my S3 | 15:17 |
| brousch | Fast and clean with Cyanogenmod. Android 4.3.1 | 15:18 |
| brousch | Ug. Blizzard outside | 15:23 |
| jcastro | there's a bit of snow on the ground here | 15:23 |
| jcastro | but nothing major | 15:23 |
| rick_h_ | yea, just cold here | 15:33 |
| rick_h_ | might have to change out of the shorts :P | 15:33 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: Ogre assembly party? will the Ogre from Skinny Puppy be there? | 17:31 |
| cmaloney | I wish | 17:31 |
| brousch | My hands ache from the cold. It's a pleasant 43F in Portland | 18:08 |
| jcastro | rick_h_, are you on wordpress.com or do you host your own? | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: wordpress.com | 19:24 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: I've given up hosting my own | 19:25 |
| jcastro | OMG | 19:25 |
| jcastro | cmaloney, you run self hosted wordpress! | 19:25 |
| brousch | Where's your Pyramid-based blogging platform? | 19:25 |
| jcastro | I need a guinea pig | 19:25 |
| jcastro | http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-integrate-your-blog-with-this-site/1266 | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: man bookie or bust | 19:26 |
| brousch | Is that competing with Discus then? | 19:26 |
| rick_h_ | brousch: no, just mean if I'm hacking on something it has to be something in the bookie universe | 19:27 |
| rick_h_ | too much code not written for me to do anything with a blog/etc | 19:27 |
| cmaloney | jcastro: You high? :) | 19:27 |
| brousch | I mean discourse competing with Disqus | 19:28 |
| rick_h_ | oh, no at least not directly | 19:28 |
| jcastro | dang, I just need to find one lousy person with wordpress | 19:28 |
| jcastro | but like, tons of people don't self host anymore I guess | 19:28 |
| brousch | I have it on dreamhost | 19:28 |
| jcastro | wanna try it? | 19:28 |
| cmaloney | I self-host, but I'm not sure I'd want someone else moderating my comments. :) | 19:29 |
| jcastro | well, it's more like flagging if someone is acting like an idiot | 19:29 |
| cmaloney | I think it makes more sense for a planet.ubuntu blog | 19:30 |
| jcastro | yeah it's just all the ones I can find are self hosted | 19:30 |
| cmaloney | but I'm not sure what the benefit is for a little outsider like me. | 19:30 |
| jcastro | and the work-hosted ones will take some time | 19:30 |
| brousch | So what is Discourse? Replacing Ubuntu forums? | 19:31 |
| cmaloney | (I wish) | 19:31 |
| jcastro | I also wish | 19:31 |
| cmaloney | Honestly if vBulletin disappeared overnight I'd be happy | 19:32 |
| cmaloney | THere's only a handful of forums that I participate in and that number is dwindling | 19:32 |
| brousch | Discourse is giving me a headache. Too many bright colors | 19:33 |
| cmaloney | Apparently there's a new initiative in CC called "Team Open" | 20:27 |
| rick_h_ | team half-open! | 20:28 |
| rick_h_ | gonna kick team open's butt! | 20:28 |
| greg-g | cmaloney: it's kind of odd | 20:28 |
| greg-g | but, whatever | 20:29 |
| * greg-g doesn't have all the details | 20:29 | |
| greg-g | they don't consult me anymore :) | 20:29 |
| * greg-g goes to get some lunch and such | 20:29 | |
| gamerchick02 | so. comcast increased my bill to over $100. i will call tomorrow and get them to take the services i don't use off. | 22:37 |
| greg-g | huh, interesting: | 22:47 |
| greg-g | "Shotwell's bug tracker has moved to GNOME's Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=shotwell" | 22:48 |
| greg-g | I wonder if that is a good sign or a bad one | 22:48 |
| widox | well, its Bugzilla; so probably bad ;) | 22:59 |
| greg-g | heh | 23:04 |
| gamerchick02 | interesting | 23:32 |
| waf | wow, you know how people lament about developers that just glue stuff together? | 23:39 |
| waf | i just glued this together, and I'm feeling pretty awesome: files.fuqua.io/upload/collab/ | 23:39 |
| waf | er, http://files.fuqua.io/upload/collab/#81lkijurf6r | 23:39 |
| waf | just glues together ACE editor with mozilla's together.js | 23:39 |
| waf | and bam, p2p collaborative code editing | 23:40 |
| greg-g | neat | 23:42 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 23:42 |
| greg-g | p2p though? | 23:42 |
| rick_h_ | you're missing webrtc | 23:42 |
| waf | webrtc | 23:43 |
| greg-g | ah | 23:43 |
| rick_h_ | oh well then coolio :) | 23:43 |
| waf | yeah, it's just using mozilla's free webrtc hub | 23:44 |
| waf | oh wait, i lied. only the audio is over webrtc | 23:49 |
| waf | the rest is just streaming websockets | 23:50 |
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