[00:08] <GridCube> Carlinhos, sure, follow the instructions here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/1238997
[00:08] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1238997 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "Add support for GTK3 panel indicators" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[00:17] <Arave> hi
[00:17] <Arave> can anyone help me?
[00:23] <Carlinhos> GridCube: they don't look too good... how can i revert back to the gtk2 ones?
[00:25] <GridCube> Carlinhos, there are several woraround in this thread https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204
[00:25] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged]
[01:32] <Reptard> for future refernece, is this place cool to come for noob help? Like driver issues or UI configuration.
[01:32] <Unit193> If you are using Xubuntu.
[01:33] <Reptard> sure am bub
[01:33] <Reptard> 13.10
[01:34] <Reptard> I'm on my win7 boot right now, so I was going to do everything later tonight.
[04:12] <MVanDruff> hello everyone
[04:13] <MVanDruff> my soundblaster audigy sound card is no longer being detected. anyone know how to fix?
[04:22] <MVanDruff> my soundblaster audigy sound card is no longer being detected. anyone know how to fix?
[06:39] <linuxer0> Hello world
[06:47] <neweb1010> newb q
[06:51] <neweb1010> Where is the win desktop?
[06:53] <koegs> sorry what?
[06:55] <neweb1010> on dual win/xubutu boot, where is the 'desktop' file?
[06:57] <koegs> you mean, you want to see the desktop-folder on the windows-partition?
[06:57] <neweb1010> yes, I have a txt file on the win side. Need to open.
[06:58] <koegs> neweb1010: please take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#Using_the_File_Manager
[07:46] <dr_chaos> Hello there. I just setted up xubuntu 13.10 and it didnot show me the drive partition dialog, so I have just one logcal HDD. I need two. I downloaded gparted but It is not available to do anithing
[07:46] <elfy> to work with partitions they need to be unmounted - boot the usb or whatever you used to install with and use that
[07:47] <dr_chaos> elfy, oh thanx! i forgot I have the livecd
[07:47] <elfy> gparted is in settings manager there - you'll likely have to swapoff as well - right click on swap partition - swapoff
[07:48] <dr_chaos> elfy, thank you, I've got it
[07:49] <dr_chaos> elfy, whatis lvm?
[07:50] <elfy> logical volume management - and that's as much as I've bothered to know about it I'm afraid :)
[07:50] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[07:51] <dr_chaos> elfy, I checked box "lvm" before installation. I hoped it will allow me to part drives
[07:51] <elfy> mmm - I thought so too
[07:51] <elfy> might be better to hang in the channel and see if someone else see's
[07:51] <dr_chaos> elfy, okay
[07:52] <dr_chaos> elfy, i ll better ereboot and try gparted)
[07:52] <elfy> dr_chaos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuDesktopLVM as well
[07:53] <dr_chaos> elfy, oh by the way, how to set default browser here?
[07:53] <elfy> exo-preferred-applications
[07:53] <elfy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1537569
[07:54] <elfy> all a bit confusing - "resizing the root (/) volume is tricky since you need to unmount the volume to do file system checks, and that is impossible if you are using it"
[07:54] <dr_chaos> elfy, me too
[07:55] <elfy> I'll shut up now - likely to just confuse the issue :)
[07:55] <dr_chaos> elfy, maybe better reinstall without lvm?
[07:55] <elfy> well - if I had time I might play with it - but ...
[07:56] <dr_chaos> elfy, I mean myself
[07:56] <dr_chaos> elfy, I just installed xbutu
[07:56] <dr_chaos> elfy, maybe I ll better reinstall it?
[07:57] <elfy> I know what you meant :)
[07:57] <well_laid_lawn> ↓
[07:57] <dr_chaos> elfy, sry I am not english as well
[07:57] <elfy> if you've just installed and want to reinstall - now's the time to do it
[07:57] <dr_chaos> elfy, fck yeah!)
[07:58] <elfy> I used to set up partitions prior to running install - and then use the somethign else option to install where I want to
[07:59] <dr_chaos> elfy, as I understand I have to create swap part first?
[08:00] <dr_chaos> elfy, i installed 12.04 yesterday and have done smth wrong wit partitions and didnot see any of it after installation
[08:01] <dr_chaos> elfy, how to do it the most  right way?
[08:01] <elfy> dr_chaos: well - I usually create a primary then an extended - then create logicals in the extended
[08:01] <elfy> leaving the primary for 'just in case'
[08:01] <elfy> but gpt has changed all that
[08:02] <dr_chaos> elfy, what about swap?
[08:02] <elfy> in a logical
[08:02] <elfy> but not sure why you'd want/need to create it first
[08:03] <dr_chaos> elfy, I have (dont laugh) 80 Gb hdd. how many gb give to primary?
[08:03] <elfy> some will tell you to have a seperate /home - I don't do that - but symlink to other partitions
[08:04] <elfy> right - if all you're doing is playing with xubuntu on it and have no need for anything else then just use the 'Use whole drive' option and it will create a suitable swap and the rest will be available for you
[08:05] <elfy> but I've got to go - work soon - good luck
[08:05] <dr_chaos> elfy, thank you, good luck
[08:39] <hurdorbsd> How to select kernel from grub in xubuntu 13.10
[08:39] <hurdorbsd> I have 3.12.1 on my system now I want to remove it
[08:44] <well_laid_lawn> !grub
[08:44] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:52] <hurdorbsd> Thanks a lot guys
[18:29] <alainus> what can I expect by installing 14.04 daily build?
[18:29] <alainus> will it work?
[18:31] <audrey> alainus: that's a good question
[18:31] <audrey> install it and find out, it's called a daily for a reason
[18:37] <alainus> I want to install xubuntu on a vaio pro 11, but I'm overwhelmed by the amount of problems people is having with linux on this pc
[18:37] <alainus> I don't know if I should wait or go ahead.
[18:37] <Unit193> alainus: Not recommended on a production computer, vbox or testing computer.
[18:38] <alainus> apparently, linux 3.12 has patches for this hardware
[18:38] <audrey> alainus: use a stable build
[18:50] <xubuntu361> I'm not sure how to use this.  Is there anybody out there?
[18:53] <genii> xubuntu361: Yes, we see what you type :)
[18:53] <audrey> xubuntu361: no
[18:59] <xubuntu361> Hello.  I need help first in backing up all my linux files, I think before I back up all my windows files on the other side of a 40/60 partition on my laptop.  The windows vista is defunct and has a jammed up antivirus program that failed to update and also cannot be removed.  I want to save all my files efficiently from both O.S.'s and then de-partition my hard drive to reinstall an updated version of Linux.  I am running an out
[19:02] <xubuntu361> My current version of xubuntu is faulty and can no longer update.  I need some advice.  I think I could benefit from some backup software that can save my files to a flash drive.
[19:04] <cowbacon> xubuntu361: http://clonezilla.org/
[19:05] <blacklist> hello
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[19:57] <masterofpants> I got no sound on my Xubuntu machine and no volume control
[19:57] <masterofpants> I cry to meslef
[19:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> aww lol
[19:58] <drc> masterofpants: 13.10?
[19:58] <masterofpants> yes'
[19:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> Well, I could help with the volume control issue if I knew for sure the sound works
[19:59] <drc> masterofpants: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[19:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, we need you to find something to play.
[19:59] <drc> That should take care of the indicator plugin...the other, it could be a lot of things.  Try the link than see.
[20:01] <drc> oh...the instructions say "gksudo", doesn't work (iirc), just use sudo.
[20:01] <audrey> masterofpants:
[20:02] <audrey> have you tried alsamixer or pavucontrol
[20:04] <masterofpants> Poisoned_Dragon,  Gracias
[20:04] <masterofpants> drc, Thanks
[20:04] <masterofpants> audrey, Thank YOU
[20:04] <masterofpants> Sound works!
[20:05] <masterofpants> pavucontrol revealed that I had muted it
[20:05] <masterofpants> drc,  I did what the link said
[20:05] <drc> and ?
[20:05] <audrey> np masterofpants :3
[20:05] <audrey> 9/10 times when sound fucks up i check pavucontrol and the wrong card is selected
[20:06] <masterofpants> drc, Didn't log out yet but I will once I'm done with the 10000 things I'm doing
[20:06] <masterofpants> I am ruler of all PANTS
[20:07] <Unit193> audrey: No swearing please.
[20:08] <audrey> lol
[20:09] <masterofpants> Yes, no f*$%in' swearing
[20:10] <Unit193> !guidelines | masterofpants
[20:10] <ubottu> masterofpants: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[20:10] <masterofpants> I was joking
[20:10] <masterofpants> Sorry
[20:10] <masterofpants> There is NO laughing here either!
[20:10] <masterofpants> NO smiling
[20:10] <newb> oh shit i'm installing for the first time oh shit oh shit wish me luck
[20:11] <newb> also how come the installer has a skip button
[20:11] <newb> how does that even work
[20:12] <audrey> newb: the installer is easy
[20:13] <Unit193> newb: TBH I don't know, could be that it comes and asks the question later or lets you set it up after.
[20:13] <newb> yeah, i know
[20:13] <newb> i hope i didn't screw my partitions up
[20:13] <audrey> newb: did you partition automatic or manually
[20:14] <newb> manually
[20:30] <newb> ok, time to reboot
[20:31] <newb> i'll be back, hopefully
[20:31] <newb> thanks for the emotional support (?)
[20:38] <newb> ok, it's done
[20:38] <newb> i lost nothing
[20:38] <newb> good day
[21:12] <n3glv> hi guys, can someone tell me where the list that the software updater reads is? can I hand remove an app that can't be updated??
[21:12] <n3glv> (flashplugin-installer)
[21:18] <cowbacon> n3glv: apt-get remove flashplugin-installer
[21:18] <n3glv> and will that remove my flash plugin cowbacon?
[21:19] <n3glv> I need function, don't need PESTERED DAILY
[21:19] <cowbacon> i dont know
[21:19] <n3glv> I think it will go away....
[21:19] <n3glv> not a fix
[21:19] <cowbacon> if its just installer the plugin shouldnt be removed
[21:19] <cowbacon> and even if it gets removed just reinstall it
[21:23] <n3glv> and renew the pestering..
[21:25] <n3glv> trying that now
[21:26] <cowbacon> you should also clear your apt logs and stuff
[21:27] <Unit193> n3glv: Why can't it be updated?  If you remove the package, the plugin is gone, yes.
[21:27] <n3glv> how is thad done?
[21:27] <n3glv> that done (apt logs)
[21:32] <cowbacon> the easiest is do just do rm -rf /var/log but then you'll lose all your logs. if you never read or care about logs you wont notice the loss
[21:32] <cowbacon> or move them to ~
[21:32] <Unit193> cowbacon: Um, why?
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[22:06] <Rochvellon> hi, is it normal that thunar only will show smb resources if the package "samba" is installed?
[22:07] <bosnjak> Rochvellon: doesn't that seam reasonable?
[22:08] <Rochvellon> what's about smbclient? wouldn't that just enough?
[22:09] <Unit193> I'd think gvfs-backends would be enough (that and fuse, but pretty sure you can't install it without fuse)
[22:14] <Rochvellon> well, gvfs-backends is installed but yesterday i was surprised that i couldn't see the smb resources from the VM-windows and after installing the paket samba i could browse these resources
[22:15] <Rochvellon> well, I'm using thunar 1.6.2 (13.04)
[22:18] <bosnjak> Rochvellon: could be that you were just missing a package that was installed when you installed samba. Like samba-common which is a smbclient dependency
[22:18] <bosnjak> just fishing here tbh
[22:19] <Rochvellon> bosnjak> only tdb-tools was installed with samba
[22:24] <bosnjak> Rochvellon: smbclient depends on libtdb1, which is provided by samba-common-bin. And that is provided by samba.
[22:24] <bosnjak> Rochvellon: i am not 100%, i just analysed dependencies on the fly
[22:30] <Rochvellon> bosnjak> ah, ok, thx :)
[22:35] <bosnjak> Rochvellon: the question remains why it was removed in the first place, but i would leave that one unanswered :D
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[23:46] <KombuchaKip> Avaneya, a cerebral sci-fi for Ubuntu under development by Ubuntu Vancouver! https://www.avaneya.com
[23:51] <holstein> "a cerebral sci-fi *game*".. for sell at the site above