[00:00] <shadeslayer> a(integral of f dg )
[00:00] <shadeslayer> a(fg -integral of gdf
[00:00] <shadeslayer> )
[00:00] <shadeslayer> afg - a(integral of g df )
[00:01] <shadeslayer> the question is
[00:01] <shadeslayer> why is the denominator pi * n
[00:02] <shadeslayer> instead of 2 * pi * n
[00:02] <shadeslayer> oh
[00:02] <shadeslayer> it's 2a
[00:02] <shadeslayer> then it's fine
[00:02] <Quintasan> yeah
[00:02] <Quintasan> and why the hell it's 2 * pi^2 * n^2 instead of 4*pi^2*n^2?
[00:03] <shadeslayer> hurray, I can math
[00:03] <shadeslayer> where
[00:04] <Quintasan> - a/(2*pi^2*n^2) * intergral of sin(2*pi*n*t)dt
[00:04] <Quintasan> I think I can multiply 2*2 but I can be wrong
[00:04] <Quintasan> nvm
[00:04] <Quintasan> I substitute there later on
[00:04] <shadeslayer> I don't see that there
[00:04] <Quintasan> seriously
[00:04] <Quintasan> this is ridiculous
[00:05] <Quintasan> one minor mistake and you're fcksd
[00:05] <shadeslayer> #IntegralLife
[00:06] <valorie> I'm just reading about modern philosophers/cosmologists etc. who are Platonists, and think that the 'real world' is math
[00:06] <valorie> and what we perceive is merely shadows of that real world
[00:06] <shadeslayer> well, more or less the entire world can be explained by math
[00:07] <valorie> it's a really interesting read
[00:07] <valorie> Why Does the World Exist or close to that title
[00:08] <Quintasan> We exist because noms
[00:08] <Quintasan> Don't ask me for explanation
[00:08] <valorie> my answer so far has been: why not?
[00:09] <valorie> which is as good as any
[00:09] <valorie> Quintasan: there are lots of philosophers who agree with you
[00:09] <Quintasan> \o/
[00:09] <valorie> although they use slightly more technical language than 'noms'
[00:09] <valorie> lol
[00:09]  * Quintasan can into philosophy
[00:10] <valorie> plato basically said that the Good > the world
[00:11] <mikhas> the dining philosophers were all about noms if I recall correctly
[00:11] <valorie> the Epicurians?
[00:11] <Quintasan> Christ, those dumb integrals
[00:11] <mikhas> valorie,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dining_philosophers_problem
[00:12] <mikhas> you should have learned by now to never take my input serious, even if I am serious
[00:12] <Quintasan> You are seriously not serious?
[00:12] <Quintasan> How serious.
[00:12] <mikhas> no, and I am very serious about that
[00:13] <Quintasan> great
[00:13] <valorie> mikhas: this sounds like a good way to spread disease among philosophers
[00:13] <valorie> sheesh
[00:13] <Quintasan> and what I calculated doesn't match the damned result
[00:13] <Quintasan> !%#%#@#$
[00:13] <Quintasan> ffs
[00:13] <mikhas> (task: try to express that with predicate logic, conflict free)
[00:13] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: what did you expect
[00:13] <Quintasan> Logic.
[00:13] <mikhas> valorie, goedel
[00:13] <mikhas> ;-)
[00:13] <Quintasan> I expected it to work shadeslayer
[00:14] <shadeslayer> incorrect, the result of Integerals is in a quantum state of flux till you've alteast re done the equations 3 times
[00:15] <shadeslayer> It's like Schrodingers cat
[00:16] <Quintasan> you must be shitting me
[00:16] <Quintasan> I've tried to calculate it 5 times and I got 5 different results
[00:16] <Quintasan> xD
[00:17] <mikhas> pick one
[00:17] <Quintasan> I have no idea how am I supposed to get the result during the exam
[00:17] <Quintasan> It's going to be hell
[00:17] <shadeslayer> what mikhas said
[00:17] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: I'm pretty sure that in my class of 60 students each student got a unique result
[00:17] <mikhas> 5 different equally good (bad) results is more than any manager will ever ask of you
[00:17] <shadeslayer> whne doing integrals
[00:17] <mikhas> you're fine
[00:17] <shadeslayer> mikhas: unless the manager knows his math
[00:18] <mikhas> they dont
[00:18] <mikhas> trust me, I was one
[00:18] <mikhas> =p
[00:18] <shadeslayer> =D
[00:18] <Quintasan> hurr
[00:18] <Quintasan> now I have to interate sin(2*pi*n*t)
[00:18] <Quintasan> I wish there was some kind of shortcut
[00:18] <mikhas> I can borrow you a cos
[00:18] <shadeslayer> there is?
[00:18] <valorie> Quintasan is accessing parallel universes
[00:19] <shadeslayer> sin2x = 2Cosx - something
[00:19] <valorie> a different answer per universe
[00:19] <mikhas> I expect you end up with e^something
[00:19] <shadeslayer> something alont those lines
[00:19] <mikhas> equaling 1
[00:20] <valorie> also usually you get more points for showing your work than getting the 'correct' answer
[00:20] <shadeslayer> ^^
[00:20] <mikhas> well
[00:20] <mikhas> that's only true for academia
[00:20] <valorie> right
[00:20] <mikhas> later on, no one wants to know the how
[00:21] <shadeslayer> they just want porn on their 20" qHD screens?
[00:21] <mikhas> just get me that one result so that I get promoted if it was correct or that I can fire you if it was wrong
[00:21] <mikhas> there is more truth in this than I want to admit
[00:21] <valorie> in business, the BSing skills are more important than ever
[00:21] <mikhas> that's how I introduced myself to a sales guy not to long ago
[00:22] <mikhas> as professional bullshitter
[00:22] <mikhas> I got the laughs, he was speechless
[00:22] <valorie> radical honesty!
[00:22] <mikhas> well … yes
[00:22] <mikhas> no one expects honest sales people
[00:23] <mikhas> something something spanish inquisition something
[00:23] <Quintasan> noone expects spanish inquisition?
[00:23] <mikhas> nope
[00:23] <mikhas> am not a monty python fan
[00:23] <valorie> where is Monty Python when ya need him
[00:23] <mikhas> always found their "humor" to be too close to reality
[00:23] <valorie> haha
[00:24] <valorie> reality IS the joke
[00:24] <mikhas> then why is no one laughing?
[00:24] <Quintasan> I am
[00:24] <Quintasan> everyday
[00:24] <mikhas> good
[00:24] <Quintasan> especially when I see integrals
[00:24] <Quintasan> it's a maniacal laughter
[00:25]  * valorie passes the vodka to Quintasan
[00:25] <shadeslayer> pft vodka won't do him any good there
[00:25] <Quintasan> unfortunately it's not vodka time
[00:25] <shadeslayer> you should have had some of the stuff that ovidiu-florin bought
[00:26] <valorie> which was?
[00:26] <shadeslayer> something his dad brewed
[00:26] <shadeslayer> hurray, I have a neon5 ISO that you can actually *install*
[00:27] <mikhas> so back to those integrals (IANAM applies): if you presented me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_identity as a solution I'd be so distracted by the beauty that I  wouldn't even verify the result
[00:27] <valorie> it's a good idea to have a glass ready if you meet up with the MariaDB fellow
[00:27] <mikhas> I wouldn't *want* to destroy such beauty by checking with reality
[00:27] <valorie> his vodka is worth trying
[00:27] <mikhas> grey goose
[00:27] <mikhas> seriously, best taste at unbeatable price
[00:27] <valorie> this stuff he flavors with some licorice candy from Poland or sth
[00:27] <mikhas> :-(
[00:28] <valorie> grey goose is good, for sure
[00:28] <mikhas> but yeah, that's what everyone in FI drinks, too
[00:28] <mikhas> cant remember how they call licorice'd vodka
[00:28] <mikhas> with milk/cream sometimes
[00:28] <valorie> interesting
[00:29] <Quintasan> lol
[00:29] <valorie> I'm not a fan of licorice, but this stuff was delicious
[00:30] <Quintasan> We're talking stuff like this http://www.polartcenter.com/Luxury_Licorice_Fudge_Licorice_Krowki_Cow_Candy_p/9816068.htm ?
[00:31] <mikhas> no, not fudge
[00:31] <valorie> probably
[00:31] <valorie> I didn't see him make it
[00:32] <valorie> just drank some
[00:32] <Quintasan> infusing vodka with those would be a nice thing
[00:33] <mikhas> as a clown I'd be very sad and depressive
[00:33] <Quintasan> http://www.candywarehouse.com/assets/item/regular/Brachs-ice-blue-im-125257.jpg
[00:33] <mikhas> no one laughs over my *good* jokes that I put real effort into
[00:33] <valorie> sad clowns are the only good clowns
[00:33] <Quintasan> We've infused vodka with some of those
[00:33] <valorie> the jolly ones have a double-life as mass murderers
[00:33] <mikhas> I didn't say I'd be a *bad* clown
[00:33] <Quintasan> put the result into fridge for a while and serve
[00:34] <mikhas> mass murderers hide in plain sight
[00:34] <valorie> gah, mint?
[00:34] <mikhas> didn't dextor show you?
[00:34] <Quintasan> valorie: you won't even feel it
[00:34] <valorie> heh, dexter
[00:34] <mikhas> oh god … mint liquor is like the kir royal of berlin …
[00:34] <valorie> <3
[00:34] <mikhas> hey, thought police over there!
[00:34] <valorie> mint is for toothpaste!
[00:34] <mikhas> you might want to check this fella ^
[00:35] <Quintasan> kubotu: order whisky for mikhas
[00:35]  * kubotu throws a mighty fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood at mikhas.
[00:35] <kubotu> What are ye looking at?
[00:36] <Quintasan> what did we add last time
[00:36] <Quintasan> hmm
[00:36] <mikhas> a fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood it seems
[00:36] <valorie> ooooo, balvenie doublewood
[00:36] <Quintasan> kubotu: order vodka for valorie
[00:36]  * kubotu slides vodka down the bar to valorie
[00:36] <mikhas> man this is not good
[00:36] <Quintasan> no, it doesn't work
[00:36] <shadeslayer> drinking and integrating never is
[00:36] <mikhas> I had such good whisky in Edinburgh
[00:36] <mikhas> but that was expensive
[00:37] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: IT DOES WORK
[00:37] <mikhas> now all I can think of is whisky
[00:37] <Quintasan> wait
[00:37] <Quintasan> no
[00:37] <mikhas> I might be in love again
[00:37]  * valorie sips vodka, but dreams of whisky
[00:37] <mikhas> I sip water and dream of wine
[00:38] <mikhas> but my conversion skills are lacking
[00:38] <mikhas> I am *not* an alcoholic! stop telling me
[00:38] <valorie> lol
[00:38] <Quintasan> lel
[00:38] <Quintasan> Well, I should be going to bed or something
[00:38] <Quintasan> damn lectures
[00:38] <Quintasan> Y U IN THE MORNING
[00:39] <mikhas> ah to be a student again …
[00:39] <mikhas> best time ever
[00:39] <mikhas> nah, just kidding, it all sucked
[00:39] <valorie> sweet dreams, Quintasan
[00:39] <Quintasan> I bet I'm going to dream about integrating
[00:39] <valorie> I loved being a student, but didn't get to go until my 30s
[00:39] <mikhas> best time valorie, best time …
[00:40] <valorie> I got a lot out of it then, probably more than if I was younger
[00:40] <mikhas> those youngsters don't know what to study anyway
[00:40] <mikhas> or how
[00:40] <mikhas> no surprise
[00:40] <mikhas> you probably didn't try to stuff as many lectures as possible into you
[00:40] <mikhas> focused on a few interesting ones and were generally more laid back and relaxed about everything
[00:41] <mikhas> and more committed with a better routine ;-)
[00:41] <valorie> no, I always had an art and activity class every quarter
[00:41] <valorie> it was great!
[00:41] <valorie> exhausting, but great
[00:41] <mikhas> but I doubt you had a crowed curriculum such as those bachelor courses
[00:41] <mikhas> *crowded
[00:42] <valorie> the more quarters I went, the lighter the course load
[00:42] <mikhas> :-)
[00:43] <mikhas> funny how those whisky sites ask whether you are 18 or not
[00:43] <mikhas> they should ask whether you attend your AA meetings regularly
[00:48] <valorie> it is my dream to take a van tour of Scotland's best distilleries
[00:48] <valorie> so I can properly taste rather than just a sip or two
[00:48] <mikhas> see, I put serious effort and research into this tweet, hoping it would go viral or how you call it
[00:48] <mikhas> but only a stupid bot retweeted it
[00:48] <mikhas> valorie, whisky flights no good for you?
[00:49] <mikhas> 20 quids and you get a decent selection already
[00:49] <valorie> flights?
[00:49] <mikhas> well, 4-5 different whisky shots
[00:49] <valorie> I mean, I can buy the stuff and taste at home
[00:49] <mikhas> yeah
[00:49] <valorie> but there is nothing like going to the place
[00:49] <mikhas> but good luck trying to buy 5 different bottles of good stuff at once
[00:49] <valorie> and tasting there
[00:49] <mikhas> agree!
[00:49] <mikhas> just requires a lot of time
[00:50] <valorie> yes
[00:50] <mikhas> go do the isle tour
[00:50] <valorie> time and money
[00:50] <mikhas> to the ones on the east
[00:50] <valorie> just like the rest of life
[00:50] <mikhas> err west
[00:50] <mikhas> life doesn't require money
[00:50] <mikhas> only true for the last couple centuries
[00:50] <mikhas> and even then only for a minority
[00:50] <valorie> mostly true
[00:51] <valorie> we're fixing up our house though, and that requires money
[00:51] <mikhas> you know they have a whisky festival each year?
[00:52] <mikhas> gah, the *one* time I could really need a wikipedia category for scotish whisky that comes from islands, it doesnt exist
[00:52] <valorie> I didn't, but of course they do
[00:53] <valorie> the first good whisky I had was Islay
[00:53] <valorie> amazing
[00:53] <valorie> of course I was driving, so I could only have a sip or two
[00:53] <mikhas> and this page doesn't mention the breweries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Hebrides
[00:54] <mikhas> the ones with peaty tastes, right?
[00:54] <valorie> so peaty
[00:54] <valorie> Jura is also great
[00:55] <valorie> I've been to Scotland one, but did not get to the Isles
[00:55] <valorie> nor any distilleries
[00:55] <valorie> someday.....
[00:55] <mikhas> Jura is prohibitively expensive …
[00:56] <valorie> 'tis, and worth every penny
[00:58] <mikhas> Arran whisky was probably the one that amazed me most
[00:58] <mikhas> and then they have this beer that's brewed in whisky barrels … so good
[00:58] <mikhas> (thanks Riddell for telling me!)
[00:58] <valorie> ah, which is that?
[00:58]  * valorie only got to have on Scots beer as well
[00:58] <valorie> one
[00:59] <mikhas> I think this one: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/10272/12719
[01:00] <mikhas> Innis & Gunn
[01:00] <mikhas> but I tried ordering it and could never pronounce it properly
[01:00] <mikhas> "that one, over there! a bit more left left … right … stop!"
[01:00] <mikhas> once you have a bottle, the rest is easy
[01:01] <valorie> lol
[01:01] <valorie> that isn't the one I had, sadly
[01:01] <valorie> oops, dinner time
[01:22] <manchicken> apachelogger: ping
[07:15] <jussi> Cripes, we have an election soon. (6 months... soon). anyway, that reminder is good, just for people to start preparing themselves and thinking if they could contribute as a Kubuntu council member. 
[07:16] <Tm_T> I tried upgrade 13.04 to 13.10 just now, apparently I have too many 3rd party repositories to make the magic happen automaticly
[07:30] <soee> good morning
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:58] <jussi> can anyone tell me why there are no debug symbols for calligra (or at least the crash reporter doesnt find them...)
[09:03] <jussi> anyone about? I need a tester...
[09:05] <jussi> meh, heading out for a while. if someone gets a chance, open calligra, write something, hilight it, then choose "Head 2" paragraph style. causes crash for me
[09:05] <jussi> (calligra words)
[09:54] <apachelogger> calligra-dbg - debugging symbols for Calligra
[09:54] <apachelogger> jussi: should find them
[10:59] <ovidiu-florin> http://geekaliens.com/blog/en/2013/11/fixing-bugs-at-munich-bug-squashing-party/ posted in English and Romanian
[11:34] <soee> yofel, hows the work going on this 2 packages that failed ?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:30]  * mamarley pokes ScottK and debfx about the Quassel upstart script.
[12:52] <alvin> Is it allowed to file bug reports about packages that you backported using "backportpackage"?
[12:55] <Tm_T> you're filing bug report for yourself? (:
[12:57] <alvin> No, I just tried the new Choqok version from Trusty in Saucy (the one in saucy doesn't even work). This one does work, but every time it fetches something, there is an error ("Error on parsing results:...").
[12:57] <alvin> and I suspect (not sure!) that it crashes plasma from time to time.
[13:04] <jussi> alvin: file the bug, tell everything you can (including those details) and see what the triager says :)
[13:04] <alvin> jussi: will do
[13:05] <jussi> alvin: there is of course a chance the bug gets marked invalid for some reason, but still....
[13:06] <alvin> It'll be valid in about 5 months
[13:06] <alvin> Aw, I can't use ubuntu-bug
[13:06] <jussi> alvin: Id suggest you try it on trusty and if it still happens there, the report will be much more valid
[13:06] <jussi> (VM's are great)
[13:06] <jussi> apachelogger: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Digital-Camera-1-3MPX-1-4-inch-Screen/dp/B003V973HK/ :D
[13:07] <alvin> jussi: Ah, that's true
[13:28] <Riddell> morning
[13:28] <Peace-> Riddell: morning
[14:00] <apachelogger> rc tomorrow
[14:03] <Riddell> exiting times :)
[14:03] <Riddell> I should be back into a packaging mode to do it
[14:58] <tsdgeos> random find, kchmviewer depends on kdebase-runtime instead of kde-runtime
[15:00] <Riddell> hah, not been recompiled in years
[15:00] <Riddell> tsdgeos: is it a problem that I should do an SRU for or is fixing in trusty enough?
[15:01] <tsdgeos> you're the distro man :D 
[15:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer, yofel: how's the beta upload going, should I help?
[15:01] <shadeslayer> Riddell: already uploaded
[15:01] <Riddell> since nobody has complained until now I suspect it's not a big issue
[15:01] <tsdgeos> well i'm complaining :D
[15:01] <tsdgeos> some of .2 packages still around, some .80 pacakges still around
[15:02] <tsdgeos> it's a mirable i can start stuff like kate :D
[15:02] <tsdgeos> argably some of the .2 stuff is ok since it's kde-workspace stuff that didn't get a release
[15:02] <Riddell> tsdgeos: kdebase-runtime is an empty dunny package that depends on kde-runtime, so not a problem in reality
[15:04] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: what's left at 4.11.80?
[15:05] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.kde.org/ptljibtpk/topiad/raw
[15:06] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: stuff is stuck in -proposed
[15:06] <shadeslayer> probably some arch is still waiting to be built
[15:06] <Riddell> mumble powerpc mumble
[15:08] <shadeslayer> tsdgeos: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html < only -ar translations still at 4.11.80
[15:09] <tsdgeos> shadeslayer: what about okular for example?
[15:09] <shadeslayer> okular:
[15:09] <shadeslayer>   Installed: 4:4.11.95-0ubuntu1
[15:09] <shadeslayer>   Candidate: 4:4.11.95-0ubuntu1
[15:10] <shadeslayer> okular failed on armhf
[15:10] <shadeslayer> looking
[15:11] <shadeslayer> some silly archive stuff, retried
[15:12] <shadeslayer> *archive skew 
[15:19] <Riddell> ronnoc: ah hah, so you do blue mint
[15:19] <Riddell> I did wonder
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK thoughts on SRU'ing new kscreen?
[16:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: are they important bug fixes and are there features in there too?
[16:14] <Riddell> wasn't kscreen in the micre release exception?
[16:14] <shadeslayer> it was IIRC
[16:14] <shadeslayer> still going through the git log to check for features
[16:18] <Trevor_> Hello?
[16:18] <Trevor_> Anyone able to help me with a dual monitor issue?
[16:21] <Riddell> Trevor_: use support in #kubuntu
[16:21] <Riddell> Trevor_: user support in #kubuntu
[16:24] <Trevor_> What do you mean?
[16:26] <mamarley> Trevor_: He means ask your question in #kubuntu instead.  This channel is for development.
[16:26] <Trevor_> Oh, my bad
[16:26] <mamarley> No problem :)
[16:29] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 2 things, libkscreen looks good ( I only see bug fixes ) and Alex says that only 1.0.2 is supported now
[16:29] <shadeslayer> so I think it's a good idea to update
[16:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: yep I agree
[16:31] <shadeslayer> kscreen looks good too
[16:35] <Riddell> http://makeplaylive.com/index.html#/open-hardware/improv/discover
[16:51] <Riddell> should we get kubuntu working on this?
[16:52] <shadeslayer> do we have the time?
[16:53] <shadeslayer> IMHO we have enough items for 14.04 and once we're done through those, we can think about it
[16:55] <Riddell> well yes
[16:55] <Riddell> I just like that it's a possibility as it's armv7 which isn't the case for rasp pi
[17:00] <shadeslayer> sure, maybe if we have time :)
[17:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: libkscreen uploaded
[17:00] <shadeslayer> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125
[17:04] <Riddell> hmm, does a package need a test case with the micro release exception?
[17:04] <Riddell> can I approve it?
[17:04]  * Riddell looks to ScottK for sru knowledge
[17:05] <shadeslayer> I do not think so, but I can add a minimal test case
[17:05] <shadeslayer> I added the bug links so that one can try and reproduce any one of those
[17:05] <shadeslayer> and then check if it works
[17:23] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/scripts/kde_sru_helper.sh < in case you need it at some point
[17:33] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: https://www.dropbox.com/s/81blvpisym1pps2/Screenshot%202013-11-26%2019.22.29.png
[17:34] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what am I looking at?
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> a possible improvement
[17:35] <ovidiu-florin> the header is more 3D ish
[17:36] <Riddell> ah hah, yes bling is good
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> can this be added?
[17:42] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Looks good :)
[17:43] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: sure, just put your bzr branch somewhere and I'll merge it in
[17:43] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: where can I get the current template?
[17:43] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: lp:~jr/%2Bjunk/kubuntu-docs-downloader
[17:52] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what outputs http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html
[17:55] <Riddell> the build status script :)
[17:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: sudo -u kubuntu crontab -l
[17:56] <Riddell> hmm no not there
[17:56] <Riddell> it's under my account for some reason
[17:56] <Riddell> 1 1 * * * PATH=.:$PATH cd /home/jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk && /home/jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/uscan-package-db
[17:56] <Riddell> 1 5 * * * cd /home/jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk && /home/jr/qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus
[17:56] <shadeslayer> right, where can I find kubuntu-buildstatus
[17:57] <Riddell> in ~jr :)
[17:57] <Riddell> ~kubuntu-members/%2Bjunk/qa.kubuntu.co.uk
[17:57] <Riddell> lp:~kubuntu-members/%2Bjunk/qa.kubuntu.co.uk
[17:58] <shadeslayer> thx
[17:59] <shadeslayer> debfx: poke
[18:01] <debfx> shadeslayer: pokeback
[18:02] <shadeslayer> debfx: thought on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html , instead of hardcoding a list, have you thought about parsing https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/+maintained-packages
[18:03] <shadeslayer> i.e. populating the list via the Maintainers field
[18:03] <Riddell> hm I don't think I've seen that list before
[18:03] <Riddell> how did you find it?
[18:03] <shadeslayer> Aalbert sent it to me
[18:03] <shadeslayer> *Albert even
[18:04] <shadeslayer> I see kgraphviewer in there xD
[18:04] <Riddell> mm team page -> releated packages -> maintained packages
[18:05] <debfx> shadeslayer: is that fetchable via the API?
[18:05] <shadeslayer> debfx: not quite, I am thinking of filing a bug report for that
[18:05] <shadeslayer> see #launchpad
[18:05] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.kde.org/pwa9xslz8
[18:06] <shadeslayer> might have a poke at it tomorrow ^^
[18:08] <debfx> good luck with that :)
[18:11] <shadeslayer> ugh, avogadro is failing on armhf
[18:18] <shadeslayer> fun
[18:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: I think we can sync avogadro from experimental
[18:21] <yofel> shadeslayer: are *all* the deps we added over the time in there?
[18:21] <yofel> and thank for the script :)
[18:21] <Riddell> calligra has a new Interlingua translation, at last
[18:24] <shadeslayer> yofel: except for ${pyavo:Depends} in python-avogadro, yes
[18:24] <yofel> shadeslayer: go ahead then \o/
[18:24] <shadeslayer> oh 
[18:24] <shadeslayer> and some other minor stuff
[18:27] <shadeslayer> yofel: http://pastebin.kde.org/pqpc2y0ra
[18:27] <shadeslayer> why does avogadro depend on python dev packages
[18:30] <yofel> uh, because it has a python module?
[18:30] <yofel> and line 36 and 37 in that diff worry me, that'll break at least kalzium I think
[18:31] <shadeslayer> that's what I'm talking about
[18:31] <shadeslayer> bah
[18:31] <shadeslayer> diff being shitty
[18:31] <shadeslayer> libavogadro-dev depends on those
[18:31] <shadeslayer> maybe we can poke upstream?
[18:32] <shadeslayer> oh
[18:32] <yofel> you could, depends on how it's built really as those deps are a result of /usr/lib/avogadro/1_0/AvogadroLibraryDeps.cmake
[18:32] <shadeslayer> right
[18:32] <shadeslayer> I believe that the debian package is python agnostic
[18:33] <shadeslayer> which is why they don't specify those
[18:33] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/p7a52963b
[18:37] <ScottK> Riddell: You can't approve it unless you're in the SRU team.  It needs a test case, but it needs to be something like "try it and see if it works" rather than a specific bug fix test.
[18:40] <Riddell> ScottK: ⇈
[18:40] <Riddell> err
[18:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ⇈
[18:41] <ScottK> Yeah.  I knew about it already.
[18:41] <ScottK> :-;
[18:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ScottK done
[18:44]  * ScottK just got done driving ~1,500km (with two drivers taking turns, but no stops but for food, gas, and personal necessities.
[18:44] <shadeslayer> o_o
[18:45] <ScottK> He may be a bit more snarky than usual today.
[18:45] <ScottK> Aren't holdays FUN.
[18:45] <ScottK> s/holdays/holidays/
[18:45] <kubotu> ScottK meant: "Aren't holidays FUN."
[18:45] <shadeslayer> ScottK: did you just refer to yourself in 3rd person
[18:46] <ScottK> I did.
[18:46] <ScottK> Oh.  And we have the dog with us on the trip, just for extra-special enjoyment.
[18:47] <shadeslayer> @_@
[18:49]  * ScottK goes to look for a bed.
[18:51] <shadeslayer> yofel: can you review https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/avogadro_1.1.0-4ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc
[19:43] <Riddell> soname of libCauchy.so.0.0, what package name?
[19:43] <yofel> libcauchy0.0
[23:10] <valorie> ScottK's 'fun' is why I don't do stressful holidays any more
[23:11] <valorie> how I roll: if it isn't fun, ditch it
[23:13] <Riddell> relaxing can be so much stress
[23:22] <mikhas> Riddell, word!
[23:23] <mikhas> I find it harder and harder to not do anything productive
[23:52] <valorie> but productive is fun
[23:52] <valorie> stress is just.... stress