[02:15] <shaun__> can someone here lend a hand getting some icons in place?
[02:17] <wafflejock> I just installed KeePassX from source and it included some icons, but they are located in /usr/local/share instead of /usr/local/applications/share not sure how to get the .desktop file to pull the appropriate icons
[02:28] <ruwhynot> Hello to all. Can somebody help me with stupid question... How can I bind changing keyboard layout (English <-> Russian) to "Ctrl+Shift"?
[04:27] <mishrahsigni> wafflejock: edit the launcher and click on the icon... and dialog will popup
[04:28] <wafflejock> thx for the reply I actually ended up doing that and just pointing to the file
[04:29] <wafflejock> I found docs on where it searches for icons and it seems like it included the /usr/local/share where there was an icons folder with keepassx stuff in it but didn't find them itself still for some reason so just added it to a panel right click and pointed it to the icon
[04:29] <wafflejock> http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html
[07:27] <James0r> can someone  help me make a script and symlink it? this is the post with the fix i need: http://pastebin.com/d9urj7JP
[07:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:47] <lordievader> James0r: I'd say you use upstart instead of init for this.
[07:48] <James0r> lordievader: is upstart the ide autostart tool?
[07:48] <lordievader> James0r: With the starting argument being "start on starting apache"
[07:48] <lordievader> James0r: Upstart is the Ubuntu replacement for SysVinit (or however it is called).
[07:49] <James0r> lordievader: all i want it to perform is /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[07:49] <lordievader> James0r: Upstart scripts are located in /etc/init/*
[07:49] <marco> hi all
[07:49] <James0r> lordievader: i see there is a script section in Autostart in kde. can i add it there?
[07:49] <lordievader> Hey marco
[07:49] <wafflejockTablet> !upstart
[07:49] <Guest45986> how are you guys ?
[07:50] <lordievader> James0r: Well the disable sites thing you want to do before apache starts, so I'd say you use upstart.
[07:50] <lordievader> Guest45986: Doing good, how about you?
[07:50] <Guest45986> yeah not bad, thanks
[07:51] <James0r> lordievader: sorry i should have updated you, i dont aim to do anything with the sites now. i think simply just restarting the apache server should solve my problem
[07:51] <Guest45986> hey what the problem with my nick ?
[07:52] <lordievader> James0r: Oh, then allow your user to execute "sudo service apache restart" without asking for a password and put the line in your ~/.profile (or in the KDE autostart).
[07:53] <James0r> lordievader: how would i allow my user root without a password?
[07:53] <James0r> lordievader: k i've added it to autostart.
[07:54] <marco021> hi all
[07:54] <marco021> here we can chat about ?
[07:54] <marco021> all topics ?
[07:55] <lordievader> James0r: Add something like "kasui   ALL =NOPASSWD: /sbin/poweroff" to your  /etc/sudoers file. (Use "sudo visudo" to edit the file), in this example the kasui user will not be asked for a password when he executes "sudo poweroff".
[07:56] <lordievader> marco021: This is Kubuntu support, for offtopic chat join #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <James0r> lordievader: okay i'll give it a shot
[07:57] <marco021> thanks !
[07:57] <marco021> bye
[08:00] <ovrflw0x> i can hibernate by doing "sudo pm-hibernate" but i don't see Hibernate option in "KMenu"
[08:00] <ovrflw0x> how to get it?
[08:01] <ovrflw0x> so that i can hibernate as regular user
[08:07] <James0r> lordievader: so when i type sudo visudo it brings me to the editor and says File: /etc/sudoers.tmp
[08:08] <James0r> lordievader: is this the right file?
[08:09] <James0r> lordievader: and i added 'james ALL=NOPASSWD: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[08:09] <James0r> lordievader: no single quotes obviously
[08:10] <lordievader> James0r: Between ALL and =NOPASSWD: I had a space, and yes you are editing a tmp file.
[08:11] <lordievader> James0r: If you make a syntax error in your sudoers file you can no longer get sudo rights, so that is the reason for the existance of visudo.
[08:12] <James0r> lordievader: yikes
[08:12] <James0r> lordievader: i figured it was there for dummy proofing
[08:12] <lordievader> James0r: It checks the tmp file for syntax errors before writing it to /etc/sudoers :)
[08:14] <James0r> lordievader: and the path at the end of the line should be the path that we allow my user to execute as root, not the path of this script i'm executing right?
[08:15] <lordievader> James0r: You are trying to allow /etc/init.d/apache2, right? So I'd think it would be the path to <--
[08:17] <James0r> lordievader: when i try to run the script now without sudo in the terminal i get  * The apache2 configtest failed.
[08:17] <James0r> Output of config test was:
[08:17] <James0r> mkdir: cannot create directory '/var/run/apache2': Permission denied
[08:17] <James0r> chown: changing ownership of '/var/lock/apache2.cjHcsWQObo': Operation not permitted
[08:17] <lordievader> James0r: You can test it by opening a new shell, typing "sudo <somecommand>" verifying he asks for a password. Ctrl+c out of there (without giving your password) and then running "sudo /etc/init.d/apach2 start" and seeing if you are promted for a password.
[08:17] <James0r> sorry i'll paste bin next time
[08:18] <lordievader> James0r: You do need sudo ;)
[08:18] <James0r> lordievader: ahh but just no password
[08:19] <James0r> hj]
[08:19] <lordievader> James0r: Because if it doesn't ask for a password you can throw it in a script without worrying that it will halt because it needs your password ;)
[08:20] <James0r> lordievader: i see
[08:21] <James0r> lordievader: okay nice doesn't prompt for a password. so now i edit the script and just add 'sudo' before the command eh?
[08:21] <James0r> ls
[08:22] <lordievader> James0r: Yes, edit ~/.profile (or something similair) and add "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart"
[08:23] <James0r> lordievader: okay i added sudo to the script and it runs now. just wanna restart to make sure it loads on startup to check it
[08:26] <marco021> hi guys , please how it works freenode ?
[08:26] <marco021> to find some free - chat ?
[08:27] <marco021> hi all !
[08:27] <marco021> can you help me ?
[08:28] <marco021> alis service freenode - how can i use it ?
[09:07] <James0r> lordievader: the script worked. thx for your help!
[09:08] <lordievader> James0r: No problem :)
[10:18] <ovrflw0x> i get "No bluetooth adapter found" message 13.10 here how to fix it?
[10:32] <jalcine> ovrflw0x: what does 'hciconfig' show?
[10:32] <jalcine> run 'hciconfig' and let us know if it shows any output
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> jalcine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478344/
[10:38] <jalcine> jarkko: run 'sudo hciconfig hci0 up'
[10:38] <jalcine> it's a h/w switch
[10:38] <jalcine> happens to some machines (like mine)
[10:38] <jalcine> once it's up and you ensure that it's always powered in BlueDevil; it'd remain on when you turn on+off the machine
[10:40] <jalcine> jarkko: any luck? I'm confident that would work.
[10:40] <ovrflw0x> i'm trying to start bluedevil
[10:40] <jalcine> you shoud see PSCAN UP in the 'hciconfig' output now after running that
[10:40] <ovrflw0x> es
[10:40] <ovrflw0x> yes
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> jalcine: i'm trying to start bluedevil but it remains busy and disappears from panel
[10:41] <jalcine> 'kcmshell4 bluedeviladapters'
[10:41] <jalcine> try first removing the paired devices (if any) and re-pairing.
[10:43] <ovrflw0x> jalcine: i still get "no adapters found"
[10:43] <ovrflw0x> from bluedevil
[10:44] <ovrflw0x> when i rightclick/leftclick on it it says no adapters found
[10:44] <jalcine> hmm
[10:45] <ovrflw0x> i get this on hciconfig UP RUNNING PSCAN ISCAN
[10:46] <jalcine> This is a long shot here, but try running 'sudo service bluetooth restart'
[10:46] <jalcine> that'd restart the lower-level bluetooth daemon
[10:46] <jalcine> and (in hopes), notice the changes made
[10:47] <ovrflw0x> jalcine: it's working
[10:47] <ovrflw0x> now
[10:48] <jalcine> Sweet! Now try pairing with a device to confirm.
[10:55] <ovrflw0x> jalcine: why is transfer speed so slow around 4-9kbps
[11:00] <ovrflw0x> anyways, it was sweet to get Bluetooth on... later and bye ;)
[11:03] <jarkko> not sure if you were  talking to wrong guy
[11:03] <jarkko> Can't get device info: No such device i get this error
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:31]  * jalcine passes BluesKaj a mug of joe
[12:35] <BluesKaj> thanks  jalcine  ;)
[12:52] <kristal> a process called kworker is hammering my hard drive continuously
[12:54] <BluesKaj> kristal. check system monitor . it will be using cpu when needed, unless you have file indexing and akonadi enabled
[12:55] <kristal> BluesKaj: kwin is the only active process, and my drive sounds busier than when i transfer thousands of small files
[12:58] <BluesKaj> kristal. well if you're transferring files then that's normal, type kworker in the search on system monitor process tab to see what it's doing
[13:00] <kristal> BluesKaj: I have no user processes running other than quassel and some kworker thing us using 15% IO constantly
[13:02] <BluesKaj> kristal. well < I see you're crossposting in #ubuntu , they might know the answer
[13:03] <alvin> kristal: How are you measuring?
[13:03] <kristal> alvin: using iotop
[13:04] <alvin> I see. The process is running here too, but I can't find the executable.
[13:11] <alvin> kristal: Here's a very useful answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10846747/origin-of-a-kworker-thread
[13:12] <kristal> alvin: I think I found a zombie nepomuk process using io too...
[13:12] <alvin> Yes :-) I have a server here (just a moment) with a zombie infestation. Let's see...
[13:13] <kristal> alvin: restarting now, let's see if it comes back
[13:13] <alvin> 145 nepomuk zombies!
[13:13] <alvin> That's what I get for running LTS releases. That bug has been fixed long ago.
[13:15] <kristal> alvin:  welp i went from 15% to 7% hddio...
[13:16] <alvin> Are you on a recent release? There have been tons of complaints about nepomuk/akonadi/virtuoso and likewise, there have been tons of bugfixes.
[13:17] <kristal> alvin: 13.10, updated
[13:18] <kristal> Welp the remaining constant disk activity seems to be ext4 itself acting weird, jbd2 process
[13:28] <alvin> You don't have any LVM snapshots by any chance?
[13:30] <kristal> alvin: Nope... although I wonder if recently moving my home to  new drive has something to do with it
[13:31] <alvin> Maybe. I was asking because LVM snapshots could show that behaviour. It's caused by the copy-on-write.
[16:35] <Promethes> hi, how to switch sound output when headphones are plugged in?
[16:35] <Promethes> i want to switch audio output to speakers when headphones are plugged in
[16:35] <Promethes> in ms systems i can do it with few clicks
[16:36] <Promethes> how to accoplish this in kubuntu?
[16:36] <wafflejock> Promethes: mine does it by default, not sure how to toggle this behavior
[16:37] <wafflejock> Promethes: also this is true in windows as well
[16:37] <wafflejock> ordinarily the output is switched automatically when a plug is detected
[16:37] <Promethes> yes
[16:38] <Promethes> and automatic switch works, i don't see where i can do this manually
[16:38] <wafflejock> Promethes: you can look into alsamixer and pavucontrol both programs for audio mixing at different levels of the system but not sure that either has that option, of the two I would think maybe pavucontrol
[16:38] <Promethes> eg headphones are plugged in and i want to switch to my big speakers without unplugging headphones
[16:38] <wafflejock> Promethes: I don't think you can do that manually in windows but it doesn't matter anyhow I think pavucontrol may allow it
[16:39] <wafflejock> !alsa
[16:39] <wafflejock> basically ALSA is the advanced linux sound architecture and underlies Pulse Audio or Jack, and I believe Pulse Audio is used by most programs then as a middle man to ALSA for handling sounds... ultimately that depends on  your modules (drives) loaded for your hardware
[16:40] <wafflejock> (drivers*)
[16:41] <Promethes> alsamixer have automute fix, when it is off then sound comes from speakers and headphones
[17:13] <mr-rich> The latest set of updates for Kubuntu 12.04 wants to install icetea ... I have oracle java ... I don't want to install icedtea ... anyway around this?
[17:42] <ovrflw0x> i've to manually do "hciconfig up" to get rid of "No adapters found" message in bluedevil what to do?
[17:47] <genii> ovrflw0x: What device is it?
[17:48] <ovrflw0x> how to find out lspci -v?
[17:48] <genii> ovrflw0x: Yes, that, or else lsusb if it's on the USB bus
[17:49] <ovrflw0x> genii: what should i look for in lscpi -v to find out bluetooth?
[17:50] <genii> ovrflw0x: It's probably best to just pastebin the entire output from lspci. But please use: lspci -nn     ..so that we may see the VENDOR:DEVICE codes also
[17:51] <ovrflw0x> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6480080/ lspci -nn
[17:52] <ovrflw0x> genii: where is the bluetooth in there? i only see intel
[17:53] <genii> ovrflw0x: Must be on the USB bus.Please pastebin the output from: lsusb ...also
[17:53] <genii> Work, away from computer a bit
[17:54] <ovrflw0x> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 174f:1414 Syntek
[18:06] <genii> ovrflw0x: OK, good. What is it you have attached which is not working until you run the hciconfig command? HID stuff like mouse, keyboard, or something else?
[18:14] <ovrflw0x> genii: i've not attached anything
[18:15] <ovrflw0x> it's just that when i go for preferences of bluedevil it says "no adapters found'
[18:17] <genii> ovrflw0x: If it works properly but just not starting up automatically, might want to try putting the hciconfig command in your rc.local file, and see if it properly loads it next boot.
[18:17] <ovrflw0x> genii: is rc.local still status quo? it's systemd's age
[18:19] <ovrflw0x> genii: it's always going to be "hci0" right or will it change on booting
[18:20] <genii> ovrflw0x: Yes, it's still used :)  ... should still come up as hci0 , yes
[18:20] <ovrflw0x> genii: also once i switch to discrete card with "upstart" on boot i can't get back to integrated card by doing "echo DIGD > /sys/kernel/vgaswitcheroo/switch"
[18:21] <genii> Well, that issue I don't know anything aqbout, unfortunately
[18:22] <ovrflw0x> genii: what part of ubuntu deveopment are you involved in?
[18:22] <ovrflw0x> development*
[18:23] <genii> ovrflw0x: I'm not really involved in developing (K)ubuntu, the Ubuntu Canada team I am a part of makes awareness more of it's mandate ( Holding Ubuntu Hours, release parties, etc)
[18:23] <ovrflw0x> k, bbl after rebooting and checking if it works
[18:25] <wolfgang_> n abend
[18:27] <ovrflw0x> now it works, why didn't kubuntu do this by itself - do all laptops have to do this?
[18:27] <ovrflw0x> genii:
[18:28] <genii> ovrflw0x: Not sure why it isn't doing it automatically. Possibly a newer/obscure adapter that it doesn't immediately know how to approach or something.
[18:29] <ovrflw0x> genii: so is this a 'hack' or proper way to do it?
[18:30] <wolfgang_> i am looking to get phpmyadmin worked at ubuntu 13.10, but a get a forbidden error.... someone here who can help?
[18:30] <genii> ovrflw0x: It would be considered a hack. The proper thing is for udev to know about it and start it up properly
[18:30] <ovrflw0x> what does "udev" mean?
[18:31] <ovrflw0x> full form
[18:31] <ovrflw0x> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 174f:1414 Syntek  <-- this is the hardware what would its "udev rule be"?
[18:38] <wolfgang_> hello?
[18:39] <ovrflw0x> wolfgang_: go to #phpmyadmin
[18:43] <wolfgang_> thx
[18:46] <ovrflw0x> genii: ?
[18:47] <ovrflw0x> anyways, nvm later
[21:27] <mr-rich> The latest set of updates for Kubuntu 12.04 wants to install icetea ... I have oracle java ... I don't want to install icedtea ... anyway around this?
[21:31] <jdoles> So... after the latest update I get 'no screens found'.
[21:32] <genii> mr-rich: If your oracle java install properly adjusted the update-alternatives then the update probably wouldn't want icedtea instead. If you do: update-alternatives --list java   ...do you see the oracle version there?
[21:32] <jdoles> I am running an LTS version such that I *don't* need to care about these broken things.
[21:34] <mr-rich> genii: Yes ... Java 6 & 7 are listed
[21:35] <genii> mr-rich: Alternately, just let it install then just reinstall the Oracle java again afterwards
[21:35] <jdoles> mr-rich: or just delete the packakge which caused this mess in the first place.
[21:35] <genii> jdoles: Were you using proprietary drivers for video?
[21:35] <jdoles> genii: no
[21:36] <jdoles> mr-rich: if people can't get their dependencies sorted out, then just delete the package.
[21:36] <jdoles> mr-rich: if nothing of your distribution remains via that method, switch to another distribution or switch operating system in the end.
[21:36] <jdoles> mr-rich: or fix it yourself.
[21:36] <jdoles> In my opinion any bug damages the brand to which the software is affiliated with.
[21:37] <jdoles> In this case, it's Kubuntu which doesn't actually have any reputation.
[21:37] <jdoles> But if the same were to happen on Apple hardware, it would have been fixed within a few days, and heads would have rolled.
[21:39] <genii> If you install non-sanctioned software on an Apple and it breaks then i doubt any heads at apple are going to roll anywhere. They'll just take the machine and make it stock again and give you a lecture about it.
[21:40] <jdoles> genii: the problem is that the basics don't even work on Linux.
[21:41] <jdoles> genii: in this case X.org.
[21:41] <jdoles> Alternatively, some Kubuntu/Ubuntu packager managed to mess up things.
[21:42] <jdoles> 'no screens found' is also a terrible error message.
[21:42] <jdoles> If it would run some other command, it would detect that there is a particular graphics card in it, and that there are multiple screens attached.
[21:43] <genii> jdoles: Anything enlightening in the xorg log files?
[21:43] <jdoles> genii: no
[21:43] <jdoles> genii: dmesg did say 'booting paravirtualized kernel', but I think that's normal.
[21:44] <jdoles> genii: Kernel mode setting setup failed.
[21:44] <jdoles> genii: that seems to be the first error.
[21:44] <genii> Hm.
[21:45] <jdoles> It doesn't say why it has failed or any other basic error reporting.
[21:45] <jdoles> No computer system simply fails at some point.
[21:45] <jdoles> Especially not on one where the CPU is obviously functional.
[21:46] <genii> jdoles: Are you getting splash screen for boot? ( eg: is there a video mode at grub thats working)
[21:47] <rberg_> Hello, I had to sysrq my laptop after unplugging a mini displayport monitor.. ever seen that before? "WARNING: CPU: 2 PID: 1790 at /build/buildd/linux-3.11.0/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_dp.c:2222 intel_dp_link_down+0x1b2/0x1e0 [i915]()"
[21:47] <jdoles> genii: I disabled the splash screen a long time ago.
[21:48] <jdoles> genii: but startx -- :4 doesn't bring up a video mode.
[21:53] <genii> jdoles: Was this a dist-upgrade?
[21:53] <jdoles> genii: no
[21:53] <jdoles> genii: The only working kernel appears to be 3.2.0-20.
[21:54] <jdoles> genii: anything newer and *something* breaks.
[21:55] <genii> rberg_: I think I would report that as a bug against the package xserver-xorg-video-intel at launchpad
[21:55] <jdoles> genii: do you know of a kernel version which does actually work?
[21:55] <genii> jdoles: I'm not surrently running Precise to check
[21:56] <genii> !info linux-image-generic precise
[21:57] <genii> jdoles: As the bot indicates, 3.2.0.56 should be the latest available for Precise
[21:57] <rberg_> genii: thats what I was thinking, thanks for the conformation.. I found a few bug reports for fedora all with a 3.11 kernel
[21:57] <jdoles> genii: that's not what I get when I do apt-get install linux-image-generic.
[21:58] <genii> jdoles: There might be a later version available now which has not yet migrated it's way into the bot's database
[21:58] <jdoles> genii: I already see a potential problem.
[21:59] <jdoles> genii: I am using a newer xorg version than standard available in precise (with associated kernel).
[21:59] <jdoles> genii: (only to work around another problem)
[21:59] <jdoles> In short, all versions seem to be broken from my point of view.
[21:59] <jdoles> Great.
[22:00] <jdoles> I installed two minor versions now to see whether one of them will actually work.
[22:06]  * genii hears his Beer O Clock alarm go off and answers the call