| penguin42 | haha, interestingly there is an abstractions/web-data under there that is set up to allow serving from /srv/www/htdocs | 00:00 |
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| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, no, there's no apparmor profile installed by default | 00:01 |
| TheLordOfTime | enabled, disabled, or otherwise | 00:01 |
| penguin42 | just something to think about, I kind of like it, it's perhaps not as powerful as SELinux but it's a heck of a lot easier to work with | 00:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, suggest it to Debian then | 00:03 |
| * TheLordOfTime has no say in what Debian does | 00:03 | |
| penguin42 | nod, does Debian build with apparmor these days? | 00:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | nfc | 00:03 |
| TheLordOfTime | i could ask around | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | i don't think they do though | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | shrug, only a thought | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | It came from SUSE and I Ubuntu has had it for eyars | 00:04 |
| penguin42 | years | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | i'm guessint it doesnt | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | based on the debian wiki | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowTo | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | because the fact you have to install it suggests they don't ship with it installed by default | 00:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | LOL | 00:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | Find more profiles: ... ... ... in Ubuntu | 00:05 |
| penguin42 | nod, the only way to actually get these things to work is if the profiles ship with the packages - otherwise the two diverge and things break | 00:05 |
| TheLordOfTime | since apparmor's disabled in debian by default, I think, i don't think there's packaging policy there to need an apparmor profile | 00:08 |
| TheLordOfTime | i could probably build a basic one for nginx-full with apparmor utils but i'm lazy and dont want to spin up my VMs. (I'm not on my primary system) | 00:08 |
| penguin42 | nod, except it is enabled in ubuntu - so hohum | 00:08 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, is the additional delta needed, though? :P | 00:08 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, we already have to merge nginx into trusty and dev-release because of a branding delta :p | 00:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | cjwatson knows that, he's handled the nginx merges since i apparently FAIL at it. | 00:09 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, i'd suggest that since it was your suggestion you open an nginx bug in Debian about it, severity wishlist | 00:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | see what they say, they'll probably say "Hey, Thomas, what's your take on this?" | 00:10 |
| penguin42 | ok, might do | 00:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | or, they'll say, "Why? Apparmor isn't in Debian" | 00:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | or whatever else | 00:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | they know I'm subscribed to ALL nginx bugs in Debian | 00:10 |
| TheLordOfTime | against the source package and all binary packages. | 00:11 |
| TheLordOfTime | that's how i know CVE fixes came out xD | 00:11 |
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| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, if you do file a bug for it, lemme know the bug number. | 00:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | because my email's delayed an hour | 00:17 |
| TheLordOfTime | (lag) | 00:17 |
| penguin42 | ok will do | 00:17 |
| penguin42 | an hour?! | 00:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | yes... an hour... high ping = bad on a train | 00:18 |
| TheLordOfTime | because i'm not actually at home xD | 00:18 |
| * TheLordOfTime is travelling and has hugely high ping | 00:18 | |
| penguin42 | oh right, I thought your NSA connection was backlogged | 00:18 |
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| TheLordOfTime | lol | 00:18 |
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| TheLordOfTime | what provides ubuntu-bug, is that apport? | 18:36 |
| penguin42 | I think so | 18:36 |
| penguin42 | yep, dpkg -S `which ubuntu-bug` | 18:36 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, then isn't this filed wrong? https://bugs.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/1176899 | 18:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1176899 in claws-mail (Ubuntu) "apport-bug crashes" [Undecided,New] | 18:45 |
| TheLordOfTime | that should be against apport AFAICT | 18:45 |
| * penguin42 picks up the shovel and digs through python backtrace | 18:49 | |
| penguin42 | TheLordOfTime: So my reading of that was that he was trying to report a bug on claws-mail when it crashed | 18:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | AIUI yes | 18:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | but apport was the one that crashed | 18:49 |
| penguin42 | but it should be apport(ubuntu) I think rather than apport | 18:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | i can't remove the upstream project | 18:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | should we add apport(ubuntu)? | 18:49 |
| TheLordOfTime | if so i'll hit "continue" and add apport | 18:50 |
| penguin42 | yeh I think so | 18:50 |
| TheLordOfTime | done | 18:51 |
| TheLordOfTime | penguin42, if we're wrong then meh someone can remove it or "Invalid" it, i'm pretty certain it's invalid against apport project, but not against apport (ubuntu) | 18:51 |
| * TheLordOfTime shrugs | 18:51 | |
| penguin42 | yeh agreed | 18:51 |
| hggdh | yes, it should be apport. The claws-mail crash is what -- probably -- started this apport-kde run | 18:52 |
| hggdh | er. apport (Ubuntu) | 18:52 |
| penguin42 | it seems to have then fallen through something saying it can't open a browser and it's gone down hill from then and aborted somewhere | 18:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, so should it *not* be against claws-mail? | 18:53 |
| TheLordOfTime | because that's a bug against apport, not the package that apport crashed when it tried to get data about | 18:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | right? | 18:54 |
| hggdh | yes | 18:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, so, remove it from claws-mail because E: Not Correct, then. | 18:54 |
| * TheLordOfTime is on the page right now, can do so | 18:54 | |
| hggdh | correct. I guess this is the one you were pointing to me yesterday? | 18:54 |
| TheLordOfTime | mhm | 18:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | well... | 18:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | the guy on the chat at least | 18:56 |
| TheLordOfTime | he pointed at that bug | 18:56 |
| hggdh | but this bug is, like, ooold | 18:56 |
| * TheLordOfTime shrugs | 18:57 | |
| hggdh | he told me he would give me a backtrace (or stacktrace) | 18:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, not sure if they filed it or not | 18:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | in any case they need to give more data, the ask ubuntu guy | 18:57 |
| hggdh | TheLordOfTime: I will wait for it | 18:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | in any case, though, that bug was incorrectly filed anyways, so triage duties complete for now. | 18:57 |
| hggdh | thanks | 18:57 |
| TheLordOfTime | yep. | 18:58 |
| TheLordOfTime | now, what to do about the snow... | 18:58 |
| hggdh | snow? What snow? Here we did not even get sleet... | 19:04 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, there's snow here in Pittsburgh, PA, USA right now | 19:13 |
| TheLordOfTime | almost 2 inches now, but i kinda took a torch to the yard to melt the snow quickly. now its ice on my sidewalk | 19:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | well, not really, but i needed to fast-melt some of the snow, ice is more manageable than snow | 19:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | because sidewalk salt | 19:14 |
| hggdh | heh. Yes, now I understand -- my son also lives in PA (State College) | 19:16 |
| TheLordOfTime | hggdh, yeah state college probably has it worse | 19:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | although i would hate to see how somerset is today... | 19:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | they always get hit hard with snow, because mountains | 19:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | 'course seven springs probably has nice skiing weather | 19:33 |
| TheLordOfTime | anyways, i digress, back to me being busy. | 19:33 |
| hggdh | LOL | 19:37 |
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| * penguin42 has always preferred snow to ice, I can get a grip on snow | 19:58 | |
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