[00:00] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, lspci says... "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)"
[00:01] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: what driver does lspci -k give?
[00:01] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, lspci says... "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)"
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: lspci -k                  the driver should be listed just underneath
[00:02] <kingbeowolf> anyone using xorg edgers with a 7xxx series AMD card can speak to the quality of the experience?
[00:03] <kingbeowolf> namely https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[00:03] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, http://fpaste.org/56742/54241711/
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: yup, thats using the i915 driver so you're on the right kernel driver. can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:05] <kingbeowolf> or should i use the x-swate?
[00:05] <kingbeowolf> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[00:06] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6476512/
[00:07] <Raccoon1400> hi
[00:07] <joossee_> HOWDY!
[00:07] <Raccoon1400> I'm trying to get my realtek rtl8188ce wireless card working
[00:07] <Raccoon1400> I just build and installed the driver, but still no go
[00:08] <Raccoon1400> I did this
[00:08] <Raccoon1400> http://askubuntu.com/questions/342076/step-by-step-ubuntu-12-04-install-of-realtek-rtl8188ce-driver
[00:08] <Raccoon1400> I get a little farther now, but it says wifi is disabled by hardware switch. But the indicator for wifi is on
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: yup intel seems to be running fine. what exactly is choppy?
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: and what version of ubuntu?
[00:09] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, ubuntu 13.10
[00:09] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, when i drag windows around.. its choppy
[00:10] <dyrnade> hey all what's the problem here ?
[00:10] <dyrnade> http://m1311.hizliresim.com/1h/u/uwjus.png
[00:10] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: thats a liitle odd. how many monitors are you using?
[00:10] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, 1 its a 30" dell with 2560x1600
[00:11] <dyrnade> any suggestions ?
[00:11] <stroodlepup> hi guys
[00:12] <dyrnade> http://m1311.hizliresim.com/1h/u/uwjus.png
[00:12] <dyrnade> what's the problem
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> nishttal2: i can't see that being a problem then. you could try installing unity-tweak-tool and tweaking come of the seeings there but i can think of anything in particular that might be the cause
[00:12] <nishttal2> hitsujiTMO, ok thanks for looking
[00:12] <neokush> hi ! what i need to have graphical interface i dont know what to do =S
[00:13] <Raccoon1400> my wireless card is "hard blocked" how to fix???
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> dyrnade: you using xcompmgr?
[00:13] <dyrnade> whats that?
[00:13] <hitsujiTMO> ahh i see the problem. you're using linux mint
[00:14] <dyrnade> i have LMDE cinnamon , ATI HD4650
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | dyrnade
[00:14] <dyrnade> i installed ati catalyst 13.1
[00:15] <dyrnade> why don't you guys help ? its linux not mint or ubuntu
[00:16] <hitsujiTMO> dyrnade: because mint uses a completely different set of software. you clearly have an issue with you composite window manager and i have no idea what you're using so i can't help. neither can anyone else here. you need help from people who actually know what your OS is made from
[00:17] <dyrnade> this is debian btw
[00:17] <k0rnmuz3> Hi everybody, I have some problem to install an ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my Asus N550 JV. I have a timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv error. I've tried the ACPI=off, noapic, nolapic and nomodeset options, but the problem is still here. Anybody can help ?
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> dyrnade: well the splash says welcome to linux mint. but still, its not ubuntu so we cannot help you
[00:18] <dyrnade> Linux Mint Debian
[00:18] <dyrnade> :)
[00:18] <dyrnade> whatever
[00:18] <Tangy81> dyrnade: debian != ubuntu
[00:18] <dyrnade> thank you
[00:18] <dyrnade> it borned from debian
[00:18] <dyrnade> however all are linux
[00:18] <Tangy81> #debian
[00:19] <Beldar> linux is linux but this is ubuntu support
[00:19] <blkdg> hello, i made a bootable usb using dd, and it works. however, i cannot mount this usb any longer.  how can i remove the contents of the usb?
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> dyrnade: but the issue is not with linux, it with software on top of linux
[00:19] <jeward> Hi, any way I can get DNS to use the search string in resolv.conf if it's ignoring it?
[00:20] <zykotick9> Tangy81: don't direct LMDE people to #debian, they'll just get the same again -> go to mint support
[00:20] <Beldar> blkdg, If it shows in gparted make a partition table and then partition it.
[00:20] <|Cypher> anyone know anying about edubuntu?  I thought it came setup out of the "box" once you installed it?  I have no kids menu's ect
[00:20] <Beldar> or maybe just a partition
[00:21] <blkdg> Beldar, i can see it in dmesg
[00:21] <Beldar> blkdg, How about gparted
[00:23] <blkdg> checking
[00:23] <Beldar> blkdg, check the fropdown top right corner
[00:23] <Beldar> dropdown
[00:23] <k0rnmuz3> Hi everybody, I have some problem to install an ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my Asus N550 JV. I have a timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv error. I've tried the ACPI=off, noapic, nolapic and nomodeset options, but the problem is still here. Anybody can help ?
[00:24] <joossee_> question: if I have multiple NIC's connected to the same network can I bridge them into somekind of super connection to the network?
[00:24] <Beldar> k0rnmuz3, Channel asks for at least 10 min before repeating requests.
[00:25] <|Cypher> joossee NO
[00:25] <k0rnmuz3> Beldar, sorry
[00:26] <blkdg> Beldar, i can't aptget gparted Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gparted/gparted_0.6.2-1ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.201 80]
[00:26] <blkdg> E: Unable to fetch some archives, try running apt-get update or apt-get --fix-missing.
[00:26] <RobbyF> so USB install is faster than DVD?
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> blkdg: try switching to us mirrors and run sudo apt-get update
[00:27] <Beldar> blkdg, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[00:27] <blkdg> 10.10
[00:27] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: :)
[00:27] <Beldar> !eol | blkdg
[00:27] <newbiedoodle> hello
[00:28] <Beldar> blkdg, You do not have access to the main ubuntu repos with 10.10
[00:28] <blkdg> i see.
[00:29] <hitsujiTMO> blkid is 10.10 the version you installed?
[00:29] <blkdg> is there anything that would have shipped with 10.10 that would allow me to format this usb stick?
[00:29] <blkdg> hitsujiTMO, it's been in use since 1010 was new
[00:29] <jeward> How do I fix DNS ignoring the "search" string in resolv.conf?
[00:29] <newbiedoodle> Quick question: Beyond the difference in length of support, is there a difference between 12.04 LTS and 13.10? Is there anywhere I can find a list of the differences in capabilities, features, etc.?
[00:29] <Beldar> blkdg, The cli yes, technically you do not have support for 10.10 is all.
[00:30] <blkdg> could you help with a cli command?
[00:30] <hitsujiTMO> newbiedoodle: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[00:30] <newbiedoodle> Thanks!
[00:30] <Beldar> newbiedoodle, some apps are updated including the de.
[00:31] <Beldar> blkdg, I wont as it is just supporting you when you nare not running a release supported, I would be enabling you.
[00:31] <KI4RO> newbiedoodle, 13.10 did not work out for me and Rhythmbox so I went back to 12.04
[00:32] <GrendelT> KI4RO de N5DUX 73
[00:33] <Airia> I work for a company that uses mostly Windows/Windows Server. This is what I have been using for a number of year. Basically, I want to know if their is an equivalent for active directory/MMC console that allows managing users and groups network wide?
[00:33] <KI4RO> N5DUX de KI4RO QSL!
[00:33] <GrendelT> :)
[00:33] <Airia> I downloaded gnome system tools...it helps..but Im looking for a little more.
[00:34] <GrendelT> trying to get ubuntu setup for my shack actually - radeon drivers giving me fits
[00:34] <GrendelT> actually drivers aren't playing nice with monitor
[00:34] <GrendelT> may just say fsck it and buy a new monitor since it works on my "good" monitor
[00:34] <newbiedoodle> Are there any major programs (Text editors, IDEs, SSH, that kind of thing) which work only on 12.04?
[00:35] <GrendelT> newbiedoodle --- vi ONLY works with 12.04
[00:35] <GrendelT> and IPv4
[00:35] <KI4RO> GrendelT, Sorry have not been on the air for a number of years now and have almost zero experience with Ubuntu/Linux and our hobby
[00:35] <GrendelT> yeah - no worries... just lurking
[00:35] <stroodlepup> hi, anyone with a solution to the asus icecool problem?
[00:35] <KI4RO> newbiedoodle, and Rhythmbox
[00:36] <Beldar> stroodlepup, state the issue to the channel for help.
[00:36] <blkdg> nice.. Beldar inabling no unity :)
[00:36] <newbiedoodle> Hmm... When adding in the longer security support, seems like 12.04 is the better option. Thanks!
[00:37] <newbiedoodle> Sorry, not just security.
[00:37] <newbiedoodle> Longer generic support.
[00:37] <KI4RO> newbiedoodle, Good choice imo
[00:38] <newbiedoodle> KI4ro, GrendelT, hitsujiTMO, thanks for the help. :)
[00:38] <GrendelT> XD
[00:38] <GrendelT> i was joking.
[00:38] <GrendelT> IPv4 predates linux
[00:38] <GrendelT> so does vi
[00:38] <FloodBot1> GrendelT: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:38] <newbiedoodle> loool
[00:39] <newbiedoodle> I figured. But still, I would rather have longer support than newer tech.
[00:39] <Beldar> stroodlepup, That is a asus technology ask them, I see nothing on the web regarding ubuntu or even linux related.
[00:39] <k0rnmuz3> Hi everybody, I have some problem to install an ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my Asus N550 JV. I have a timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv error. I've tried the ACPI=off, noapic, nolapic and nomodeset options, but the problem is still here. Anybody can help ?
[00:40] <blkdg> Beldar, will disk utility do it?
[00:48] <chayothakodesh> wewt
[00:49] <chayothakodesh> Hi guys, I'm trying to start a business hooking up music producers beats and artists online on a filesharing server... any ideas for base software?
[00:49] <Beldar> !polling | chayothakodesh
[00:50] <BLOWNCO> are you talking like an ftp server or a download site
[00:50] <Beldar> !poll | chayothakodesh
[00:50] <chayothakodesh> Well I'm not looking for an "out of the box" solution Beldar , just a "rue" for my gumbo.
[00:54] <buu> Did you mean 'roux'?
[00:54] <k0rnmuz3> Nobody can Help for this : udevd[**]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv ? I can't even start install my 12.04.3 LTS 64b ....
[00:54] <chayothakodesh> Yes buu, ty.
[00:54] <chayothakodesh> Reaux?
[00:57] <chayothakodesh> k0rnmuz3, where are you getting that error?
[00:57] <mapps> hi folks
[00:57] <chayothakodesh> hi mapps
[00:57] <mapps> bit of trouble with vnc..installd tightvncserver but cant get it to work right
[00:57] <chayothakodesh> Ok, what do the log files say?
[00:57] <mapps> ive set a pass and its runnong on dimension:1 where dimension is the box hostname
[00:58] <mapps> well..i dont think they'd be any uyse? i can connect to the vnc server using tightvnc viewer on my win machine BUT the windows blank
[00:58] <mapps> as if it's loading..but ive waited and waited and nothing
[00:58] <k0rnmuz3> chayothakodesh, Just after choosing : install ubuntu. I've tried with acpi=off, noapic, nolapic and nomodeset, but it doesn't either.
[00:58] <chayothakodesh> try connecting to 127.0.0.1:1
[00:58] <chayothakodesh> k0rnmuz3, whats the model number of your computer?
[00:58] <mapps> ok
[00:58] <mapps> one moment
[00:58] <chayothakodesh> brb
[00:59] <k0rnmuz3> chayothakodesh, Asus N550JV
[00:59] <mapps> ah sheesh he's gibe
[01:02] <ChayotHaKodesh> ok
[01:03] <mapps> hey
[01:03] <k0rnmuz3> chayothakodesh, Asus N550JV
[01:03] <Daemoen> anyone know what the requirement for sar -d is on ubuntu 12 ?
[01:03] <ChayotHaKodesh> Ok mapps are you trying to boot
[01:03] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, what version of ubuntu?
[01:03] <guest-HKtZl0> hey
[01:03] <Daemoen> i have numerous ubuntu 12 servers that do not gather the sar -d data during the normal sadc polls
[01:03] <ChayotHaKodesh> Sucks Daemoen
[01:03] <ChayotHaKodesh> :\
[01:04] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh 12.04.3 LTS 64bits
[01:04] <mapps> hey ChayotHaKodesh  im on the machine right now locally using xvnc4viewer put localhost:1 and then typed my pass in and a window ppsup
[01:04] <dragonMpirate> hello
[01:04] <mapps> but nothing there again
[01:04] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, and how far do you get in the boot process.
[01:05] <ChayotHaKodesh> mapps paste me your vnc config file to pastebin.ca
[01:05] <mapps> yes sir
[01:05] <mapps> one moment
[01:05] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, does the screen just go black?
[01:06] <ChayotHaKodesh> mapps, are you sure your firewall isn't blocking the connection? Can you connect to a VNCServer session on the local machine?
[01:06] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh I've just reach the menu to chose what i want to do (try ubuntu, install, mem check, etc), I chose, Then the screen go black with a blinking cursor, and a few seconds later I have the timeout error on modprobe
[01:06] <mapps> yea but then nothing but blank
[01:06] <mapps> il take a screenshot that may help>?
[01:06] <ChayotHaKodesh> Okay, and that was the modprobe line you pasted earlier?
[01:07] <ChayotHaKodesh> No mapps... one second.
[01:07] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh yes
[01:07] <ChayotHaKodesh> What VNCServer package do you have installed.
[01:07] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, one second.
[01:07] <mapps> ok
[01:07] <neokush> can i se with dpkg the history of unistalled packages?
[01:08] <neokush> see
[01:08] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, have you tried downgrading your kernel?
[01:09] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh There's no linux distribution installed on my computer for now. I juste have my windows 7 on it
[01:09] <ChayotHaKodesh> You're installing... my bad.
[01:09] <ChayotHaKodesh> lol
[01:09] <ChayotHaKodesh> Hold on, lemme read.
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: boot with kernel options: noquiet nosplash                     this will give a more verbal output so you can see for
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> see the error*
[01:09] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, that's all the error you have for me to go on?
[01:10] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh Yes it is
[01:10] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, ot
[01:10] <ChayotHaKodesh> it's trying to probe drivers for your video card or something and its locking up
[01:10] <ChayotHaKodesh> You can edit the entry at grub and work around it, by deleting that last line in it... the video line
[01:11] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh I'm going to try your solution, and the solution of hitsujiTMO, brb
[01:11] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, disable all the hardware in the bios you can.
[01:11] <ChayotHaKodesh> bluetooth, etc.
[01:11] <ChayotHaKodesh> then try again
[01:12] <janelleb> What is the better way to install nginx? using `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/stable` or just the main repositories, i.e. just `apt-get install nginx`
[01:13] <ChayotHaKodesh> I don't even know what nginx is.
[01:13] <hitsujiTMO> janelleb: if your asking that question then just: sudo apt-get install nginx
[01:14] <ChayotHaKodesh> lol
[01:14] <stroodlepup> Beldar: i know it's vendor-specific, but still, maybe there might be a fix for it somewhere... I don't expect Asus giving info on ubuntu anytime soon
[01:15] <P_on_windowz> what is more stable and quicker -unity- ubu lts or latest. The last time i tried ubuntu with unity it was really slow. My PC is a dell Precision 470 Xeon 2.8GHz (1 core with HT) 4 gigs ram. FireGL with 256Mem dual DVI
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> P_on_windowz: the lts is always going to be more stable
[01:16] <Beldar> stroodlepup, Has it ever worked in ubuntu?
[01:16] <ChayotHaKodesh> I use lubuntu with an old laptop
[01:17] <stroodlepup> nope. laptop heats up too much
[01:19] <Beldar> stroodlepup, I doubt it ever will, what incentive would the developers have in this, and it is 3rd party technically not supported, there is nothing on the web with it and linux.
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: did you actually say what the issue is?
[01:22] <kkkkkkk> hi all, my 3g modem gets detected automatically, after a minute and the problem is that, connection retry limit is only 1, if for some reason, dialing fails, it gets off, i mean , it gets disappear from the list, like it is not being detected. How to solve that, i need to reinsert modem again and wait for a minute to get it detected again,, this problem is annoying and must be solved, because sometimes  dialing fails because of server load and other things
[01:22] <kkkkkkk> dialing also fails in windows but i get an option to retry, but here, it gets disappeared from the list
[01:22] <Daemoen> friggen ubuntu... only distro I know of that doesnt enable disk stats
[01:23] <kkkkkkk> here the situation is like that, connect in one attempt otherwise you are gone
[01:23] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh So, I've tried with nosplash and noquiet options. I have now an other error : /init: line 7: can't open /dev/sdc: no medium found. And the same error with sdd and sr0
[01:24] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, and this is an Asus laptop you're installing it on?
[01:24] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, you may have a corrupted ISO, did you check the MD5SUM?
[01:24] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh And I can't disable any hardware devices from the bios. Yes it's on my Asus N550JV.
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: thats just probing and not an actual error
[01:25] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh yes the MD5 is just fine
[01:25] <ChayotHaKodesh> Ok.
[01:25] <ChayotHaKodesh> hitsujiTMO, it's his video res.
[01:25] <anonynimity> Hi! I'm having a problem with breakfast. is there anyone here whom can assist me with this issue?
[01:26] <ifch0o1> Hey, I have installed netBeans 7.0.1 but when i try to install plugins or make new project nothing showed... Any ideas why?
[01:26] <k0rnmuz3> ChayotHaKodesh I didn't find out how to modify the last line about the video like you suggest before...
[01:26] <hitsujiTMO> ChayotHaKodesh: what gives you that opinion?
[01:27] <ChayotHaKodesh> hitsujiTMO, I often times have that problem... ubuntu can't detect intel gma945 video screens
[01:27] <ChayotHaKodesh> This is more of a guess and me "bouncing" it off you.
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> ChayotHaKodesh: but he doesn't have a gma graphics
[01:28] <ChayotHaKodesh> Ah, hmm...
[01:28] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO I have the intel HD4000 in my processor and a nvidia GT750m on the board
[01:28] <ChayotHaKodesh> k0rnmuz3, "can't open hdc" doesn't look good...
[01:29] <hitsujiTMO> ChayotHaKodesh: thats his sd card slot its probing
[01:30] <Daemoen> hrm... sadc still is not gathering disk level activities even after restart of sysstat service
[01:30] <ChayotHaKodesh> oh hitsujiTMO
[01:31] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: can you try  acpi_osi=\"!Windows 2012\"        in the kernel options
[01:32] <kkkkkkk> is there any way to enable mobile broadband quickly
[01:32] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO Ok, i'm going to try this, brb
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: sorry can you try  acpi_osi="!Windows 2012"        in the kernel options
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: without the \'s
[01:32] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO Ok ;)
[01:33] <kkkkkkk> i mean, i plug it in, before boot and restarts, during restart, it gets initialized and it should be detected early in network-manager but it took more than a minute to get it detected and sometimes i need to reinsert to get it detected
[01:34] <kkkkkkk> why 3g modems are not supported on the fly in ubuntu, why many kind of hassles in using them
[01:35] <kkkkkkk> many vendors don't provide  their drivers for linux
[01:37] <postmodern> where can I view security updates for ubuntu packages, preferably on the web (I'm not on ubuntu right now)
[01:37] <Daemoen> ok, any chance anyone in here has a working sadc with disk options ?  if so, what is your /etc/sysstat/systat and your /etc/default/systat setup ?
[01:37] <postmodern> wondering if there's an update for the ruby package for CVE-2013-4164
[01:40] <stroodlepup> hitsujiTMO: it was about ASUS Icecool technology in ASUS laptops, it does not seem to work in linux
[01:40] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: icecool tech is just a heat sink so i doubt that its not working. i prsume theres an issue with power management for your gpu
[01:41] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO It didn't work. Timeout error on modprobe again... :/
[01:42] <joossee> question: if I have multiple NIC's connected to the same network can I bridge them into somekind of super connection to the network?
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: can you take a photo of the screen ?
[01:43] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO when the error strikes ? Yeah, I can try if it can help
[01:43] <vats_monroe> hello
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: prefferably with the nosplash and noquiet options on too
[01:43] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO of course :) brb
[01:44] <vats_monroe> Hey there guys, im kind of new here so i would really appreciate your help
[01:44] <vats_monroe> is it ok if i pop a question for you guys
[01:44] <wafflejockTablet> !ask
[01:44] <vats_monroe> ty
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: what gpu do you have?
[01:45] <stroodlepup> hitsujiTMO: but how can that be adjusted then? should i install jupiter?
[01:46] <vats_monroe> Well its more of a situation than a question, im trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on my computer and im having trouble doing so
[01:47] <vats_monroe> Im using a 4gb USB flash drive and im trying to keep my Windows 8.1 on it, so im going for a dual boot installation
[01:47] <vats_monroe> Ive checke for the secure boot and all of that, the thing is when i try to boot my computer from the USB it goes into a loop and just keeps up booting
[01:47] <vats_monroe> do you know why, am i doing something wrong?
[01:48] <kostkon> postmodern, http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[01:48] <joossee> vats_monroe, what kind of computer is it?
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: its a heatsink, its effective just a lump of metal that conducts the heat away from areas around the palm rest to the fan. what the actual issue is more than likely that you have no power management running for your gpu so its on 100% all the time
[01:48] <vats_monroe> Toshiba Satellite  l755d series
[01:48] <Airia> Before that, I would ask did you make a bootable  flash drive
[01:48] <joossee> vats_monroe, how did you make the USB stick?
[01:48] <vats_monroe> yes i did using the universal one
[01:49] <Airia> new laptops with Win 8 have that UEFI boot on. You may also need to turn on legacy boot in the BIOS to get it to work correctly
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: don't use universal usb, it doesn't work for most people.
[01:49] <Airia> I just installed Ubuntu on my brothers Win HP laptop
[01:49] <joossee> vats and have you hit F12 during boot to get the boot menu?
[01:49] <vats_monroe> heres the thing i checked for UEFI but it tells me that i dont support it
[01:50] <stroodlepup> hitsujiTMO:so it's just a cpu problem... hmm
[01:50] <vats_monroe> yes i hit f12 and select the option to boot from my usb
[01:50] <joossee> vats_monroe, what hitsujiTMO said.. can you burn a CD instead?
[01:50] <vats_monroe> and thats when it happens
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: gpu not cpu most likely
[01:50] <vats_monroe> dont have any but i can, im just lazy to go buy one lol
[01:51] <stroodlepup> so graphics drivers could solve the heating prob? maybe?
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: or you can try using unetbootin
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: what gpu do you have?
[01:51] <vats_monroe> AMD
[01:51] <vats_monroe> QUAD CORE
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: but what gpu (graphics)
[01:52] <vats_monroe> AMD RADEON GRAPHICS
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> woops wrong person there
[01:52] <postmodern> kostkon, don't see any mention of Ruby, but I did find this: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-4164.html
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: go ahead and try unetbootin
[01:53] <joossee> vats_monroe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/382223/i-cant-boot-ubuntu-desktop-13-10-on-windows-8-1
[01:54] <joossee> vats also this, about holding C key during boot on some toshiba models:
[01:54] <vats_monroe> ok, thanks, let my try that, brb
[01:54] <joossee> vats_monroe, http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/64755-63-toshiba-satellite-boot
[01:54] <vats_monroe> holding c?
[01:54] <vats_monroe> ok
[01:54] <vats_monroe> ill try that first too lol
[01:55] <vats_monroe> usually is f2 or f12 ill give it a shot
[01:55] <vats_monroe> checking page
[01:56] <vats_monroe> lol i posted that
[01:56] <vats_monroe> no answers yet
[01:56] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO here's the pictures : http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/4795/hlu6.jpg
[01:58] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: thats a bit blurry, but does that say pci:v00008086#############?
[01:59] <vats_monroe> ok guys im going to try it out see what happens, brb, thanks for the info ill comeback and let you know what happened
[01:59] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO yes
[01:59] <wcpiker> hello there
[02:00] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO exactly, it's : v00008086d00008c03sv00001043sd000011CDbc01sc06i01
[02:01] <gdoteof> i installed xbindkeys trying to do something; and didn't really need it
[02:01] <gdoteof> now i removed it
[02:01] <gdoteof> but ctrl-f is stillopening up a damn xterm
[02:01] <gdoteof> how to not
[02:01] <flandrs> is there a more specific ubuntu channel for sbuild/umt issues ?
[02:02] <stroodlepup> hitsujiTMO: NVIDIA® GeForce® 610M with 2GB DDR3 VRAM
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: timeout is happening on your sata controller.
[02:03] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: have you installed bumblebee+proprietary driver?
[02:03] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO How is it possible ? Any idea how i can solve this ?
[02:03] <stroodlepup> proprietary, yes, bumblebee, not yet
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: its an odd one. looking it up now
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> stroodlepup: you need bumblebee too for the 600 series
[02:06] <nkean> anyone with postgresql knowledge
[02:06] <nkean> /
[02:08] <stroodlepup> i see, thanks
[02:08] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | nkean
[02:09] <wcpiker> guys, who can help me to mount fat16 image done with dd ?
[02:10] <wcpiker> how to mount vat16 image
[02:10] <wcpiker> how to mount fat16 image
[02:10] <nkean> Just installed postgresql but the unix user wasn't created, unsure of what permissions and settings I need for the user.  Most posts I've read are about creating a user under postgresql but I'm looking to create a user under ubuntu for the postgresql service
[02:11] <vats_monroe> im back
[02:11] <vats_monroe> UNetbooting wont support ubuntu version 13.10 , i think the latest is 13.04
[02:11] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: can you try downloading a copy of trusty and seing if that will boot?
[02:12] <vats_monroe> and the computer will go into that boot loop anyway
[02:13] <vats_monroe> it goes black, then it looks like its going in but it doesnt and starts booting again over and over
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: how exactly did you install postgresql and can you pastebin the contents of /etc/passwd
[02:14] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO ok, I'm downloading it. BTW, this error didn't show up when I installed Fedora and ArchLinux
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: unetbootin works perfectly with 13.10 even tho it does not have a profile for it. ok, what changes did you make in the bios?
[02:14] <vats_monroe> so should i go with the latest 13.04
[02:15] <vats_monroe>  unetbootin
[02:15] <privacyplease> vats_monroe: Do you see a loading screen with a progress bar that does not change?
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: its more than likely an issue with kernel support since you have such new hardware. trusty will atleast come with a newer kernel. if trusty works you can do a debootstrap install of saucy with a newer kernel
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: no go with 13.10 and unetbootin.  but what settings did you change in the bios? did you disable fast boot?
[02:17] <vats_monroe> ok on unetbootin it only shows me 13.04
[02:17] <oki_> good day or good evening to all
[02:17] <vats_monroe> loading screen, where? when im booting
[02:17] <vats_monroe> and yes i went in on the bios and switched it
[02:17] <oki_> i have a one question, so if you can be help me
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: dont use the drop down menu, choose by iso
[02:18] <vats_monroe> ohhh ok i get you know
[02:18] <vats_monroe> my bad
[02:18] <oki_> i try to install wp on my localhost but i can doing that
[02:19] <vats_monroe> ok its installing on my flashdrive
[02:19] <wafflejock> can anyone here help me out with how (k)ubuntu is resolving icon files and how I can get a .desktop setup right to load the icons... I just installed KeePassX from source... it added icons to /usr/local/share but not /usr/local/application/share so it seems when I make a .desktop file it isn't finding the icons... any direction appreciated
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: what package exactly did you install?
[02:20] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: installed postgresql and postgresql-contrib
[02:21] <axizor> Hello all, I'm new to Ubuntu and file servers, I just had a few really quick questions... For a basic file storage server, would I use samba? Would it matter if I'd be running Ubuntu Desktop or Server? Also, if I have videos stored on the server, will I be able to play them on the clients machine without having to download them?
[02:21] <oki_> i also see in terminal about databes and check and in terminal show me that is ok, but when i go to run on my localhost show me this message : Error establishing a database connection
[02:21] <axizor> Thanks.
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: you mean /usr/share/applications ?
[02:21] <oki_> anybody can hel pe with this problem
[02:21] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO, by the way i dont know if you have seen the BIOS of this series but theres not much to it, only a couple of options so im assuming im doing it right by changing the order in which the system starts to boot that is to set FDD all the way to the top
[02:21] <privacyplease> oki_: You maybe need to setup your wordpress software correctly.
[02:21] <anonymous_> Howdy.
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: dont change the order use the boot menu
[02:22] <wafflejock> yes so I was expecting /usr/share/icons to get the icons but they were installed to /usr/local/share/icons instead
[02:23] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: I tried copying a .desktop file that was already in the /usr/share/applications to setup one for KeePassX since I didn't see one present
[02:23] <oki_> please can you give me steps how can i folo that, also i delete previously and instaled new  bud dont working too
[02:23] <privacyplease> oki_: The problem is the settings within the wordpress config do not match your server setup.
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: ah for icons i tihnk its normally /usr/share/icons/hicolor
[02:23] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: ok so that would be F12 and i think is the third option ill check it again
[02:23] <oki_> can i provide to you in paste bin
[02:23] <SavantSv_d> Thankful for the ubuntu forums.. so many clean fixes.
[02:23] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO 2 hours to download....
[02:23] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: I actually did this previously too I just can't recall if I just hardcoded the path to the icon or if there's some way Ubuntu scans /usr/local/share/icons as well?
[02:23] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: From my understanding postgresql should create user postgres during install.  From what I can see that did not happen.  I've uninstalled it using apt-get purge and reinstalled using apt-get install but the user is still not created
[02:23] <privacyplease> oki_: Prehaps you should ask in #wordpress, they will assist you with wordpress issues.
[02:24] <oki_> ok thanx
[02:24] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: I may just copy over the files to /usr/share/icons but wanted to see if there were other options, or some way to get it to also scan /usr/local/share/icons
[02:24] <oki_> to all , i wil se on that chanell
[02:24] <oki_> thanx again
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: what package exactly did you install tho?
[02:24] <axizor> Does samba support media streaming?
[02:25] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: postgresql and postgresql-contrib
[02:25] <daftykins> axizor: it's a file sharing protocol
[02:25] <axizor> what can i use for streaming
[02:25] <privacyplease> axizor: It is possible, but it is very very slow
[02:26] <daftykins> no... sharing video files over SAMBA shares is not slow.
[02:26] <nkean> axizor: streaming to what?
[02:26] <daftykins> axizor: what are you trying to do?
[02:26] <axizor> i want a machine that I can store movies and tv shows on that I can stream from clients on windows
[02:26] <privacyplease> Not sharing them, but streaming them is slow, atleast when I tried streaming to my xbox it was
[02:26] <axizor> stream to*
[02:27] <axizor> i need file sharing as well though, to get the media onto the machine
[02:27] <privacyplease> Not as fast as using vlc to stream it over the network, atleast
[02:27] <daftykins> axizor: sure, so share a folder of media on a Linux server system, then mount that as a network drive on the Windows clients. simple
[02:28] <daftykins> i think you're both confusing what media 'streaming' is
[02:28] <nkean> axizor: I use samba for my filesharing and NFS to stream the content
[02:28] <axizor> ok good, good
[02:28] <axizor> thank you
[02:28] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: thx for the feedback... think I'll find it in this doc http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-theme-spec/icon-theme-spec-latest.html looks like it uses $XDG_DATA_DIRS which does contain /usr/local/share for me so just need to do a bit more probing on the filename or something... thx again
[02:29] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: damn, so you installed the correct packages alright. 2 secs gonna boot up my dev machine to have a look at the postgres user there
[02:30] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: awesome, I appreciate the help.  No luck finding the user settings after a few hours of google searches.
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: btw, keepass2 is not compatable with mir and the dev has given an indication that he has no interest in supporting mir so may not work in 14.04
[02:32] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: i believe i read mir won't be in 14.04 either...
[02:33] <wafflejock> hitsujiTMO: kk I'm on KDE does mir still effect me?
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: o.O   thats some bit of news
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> wafflejock: no kde will still be xorg
[02:33] <wafflejock> cool thanks for the heads up too
[02:33] <WhiteGryph0n> hello
[02:34] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: Ok Im ready to try it again, brb, thank you so much for the advice, lets see if it works out this time lol
[02:34] <WhiteGryph0n> i need some help with an ubuntu problem
[02:34] <WhiteGryph0n> well i think its ubuntu
[02:34] <mjayk> WhiteGryph0n:  sup
[02:35] <WhiteGryph0n> i cant link URL's into the LightIRC
[02:35] <WhiteGryph0n> like i cant even get the right click menu to show up in it
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: ok, paste.ubuntu.com/6476945           thats the account postgres created on my dev machine
[02:36] <mjayk> WhiteGryph0n: sounds like a lightirc problem to me but im not sure have you googled it
[02:36] <WhiteGryph0n> yeah
[02:36] <WhiteGryph0n> and none of the search results are relevant
[02:36] <sedeki> i have an executable (not apt-gotten) which I want to use as my window manager
[02:36] <sedeki> how do I run it?
[02:37] <sedeki> back in the days we'd just edit .xinitrc
[02:37] <sedeki> i'm using lightdm
[02:37] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: perfect.  thanks for the help!
[02:38] <mjayk> sedeki: you dont have exe's in linux is it a .deb file ?
[02:38] <AssociateX> Hello all!
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: hmm, there's also a group it seems
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: just looking now for files owned by postgres
[02:40] <fahadash> How to start ubuntu in terminal only mode ?
[02:40] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: oh, should probably have those too haha
[02:40] <zykotick9> !text | fahadash
[02:40] <wafflejock> mjayk: a .deb isn't an exectuable it's a debian package... they are still called an executable file in Linux even though they don't have the .exe extension, a file with an executable bit set to true can be run
[02:40] <fahadash> Thanks
[02:41] <mjayk> wafflejock: thats true i ignored the exec flag
[02:41] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: can you pastebin the output of: ls -ld /etc/postgresql/9.1
[02:42] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: Hate to say it but it didnt work
[02:42] <vats_monroe> It goes into a blackscreen and then just loads up windows
[02:43] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: tells my I have No such file or directory
[02:43] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: goes /etc/postgresql exist?
[02:43] <robert__> I NEED HELP!!! i am missing my Ubuntu partition sda6 on my chainloader... I am able to boot from sda1 as this is a fresh install... I am able to mount sda6 but again is missing from both Bootloader and Chainloader
[02:44] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: hmm. us the usb showing up on the boot menu?
[02:44] <vats_monroe> yes it reads it
[02:44] <Beldar> robert__, Can you see it from any OS?
[02:44] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: nope
[02:45] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO You told me to download Trusty or Saucy ? I don't remember... Maybe Saucy is a better idea ?
[02:45] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: sorry... yes it is
[02:45] <robert__> i am able to view and mount sda6 after a OS is running
[02:45] <Beldar> robert__, sorry you can mount it, what is it?
[02:45] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: it didnt install propperly at all so. can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep postgresql
[02:46] <robert__> it was my ubuntu 13.04
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: i told you to download trusty
[02:46] <Beldar> robert__, What OS is first in grub?
[02:46] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO ok thx
[02:46] <zykotick9> robert__: on the newly installed distro, try "sudo update-grub" and see if the other gets added
[02:46] <Beldar> the grub menu Robert3
[02:46] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: be right back got to go pick someone up, ill stay conencted so ill try to read whatever you post when i come back, 15 mins tops
[02:46] <Beldar> robert__ What OS is first in grub menu?
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe:cool
[02:47] <Beldar> Robert3, sorry
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: for when you get back I want you to try toggleing the bios option: "legacy usb support"
[02:48] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/wqLiT5Mg
[02:48] <robert__> Win7... :-(.... after i click onto Win7 I have two options Win7 and my Ubuntu (after clicking Ubuntu, i am back to a Grub Bootloader to continue to sda1)
[02:49] <Beldar> robert__, use nicks here, you can tab complete them, what OS is at the top of the grub menu?
[02:49] <Beldar> robert__, Have you customized the grub menu?
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: i would try: sudo apt-get purge postgresql postgresql-contrib  && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge                         then reinstall the postgresql package
[02:50] <robert__> Beldar_, this particular grub is not custom
[02:51] <Beldar> robert__, It seems you can get to grub so what is the OS at the top?
[02:51] <Beldar> that one has the grub control
[02:51] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: can you pastebin your grub config. that way we can see what is actually happeing
[02:53] <robert__> Beldar_, ok so my WIN7 is the first only one on the list.... after i click windows 7 i get what i believe is called a chainloader where i then have a black and white screen asking me which OS i want... the two options are WIN7 or Ubuntu... AFTER I click ubuntu it sends me back to Grub to boot from sda1
[02:54] <Beldar> robert__, Have you run sudo update-grub in the sda1 OS? and as was suggested post the grub config, and name any other bootloaders like easybcd...etc,
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: so this is a completely custom grub config?
[02:55] <Beldar> uefi or easybcd is my guess
[02:57] <AssociateX> I have an HP Pavilion 17 Notebook. I know it has a built in video camera but I'm not finding anything with sudo lshw | grep -i camera. Any suggestions?
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: can you pastebin: lsusb
[02:58] <zykotick9> AssociateX: you might just want to check "lsusb"
[03:00] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, zykotick9 http://pastebin.ca/2481554, thanks
[03:02] <zykotick9> AssociateX: i certainly don't see it either ;)  best of luck!
[03:02] <AssociateX> Must be the Chicony device
[03:02] <robert__> beldar_, insmod ntfs
[03:02] <robert__> set root='hd0,msdos2'
[03:02] <robert__> if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
[03:02] <robert__>   search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos2 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos2 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos2  1EB4524EB4522893
[03:02] <robert__> else
[03:02] <robert__>   search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 1EB4524EB4522893
[03:02] <FloodBot1> robert__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: yup, that seems to be quite popular
[03:03] <AssociateX> Thank you zykotick9 it's been a while since I've a had a new machine, about 12 years, so I'm rusty at all of the hardware look up.
[03:03] <zykotick9> AssociateX: ya, i'd never heard of them... but they DO make web webcams ;)
[03:03] <AssociateX> Thank you hitsujiTMO
[03:03] <AssociateX> Now to get it working
[03:03] <robert__> beldar_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6477014/
[03:04] <AssociateX> What is a popular web cam software?
[03:04] <robert__> CANT SEE SDA6 ON GRUB... HERE IS MY GRUB CONFIG... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6477014/
[03:04] <hero100> cheese
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: cheese
[03:05] <AssociateX> Did I just say popular? I meant easy to use.
[03:05] <AssociateX> Thank you hitsujiTMO
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: nowonder you cant see it, its not in your grub config
[03:06] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, robert__'s grub config http://paste.ubuntu.com/6477014/
[03:08] <robert__> hitsujiTMD_, i am pretty tech savy.... what do i need to add so i can view this partition?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: did you install the OS after you installed saucy?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: the easist thing to do would prob be to use boot-repair to configure grub for you
[03:09] <Richhh> how can i get sound in lubuntu?  aplay -l shows the SB Live 5.1 Card  i installed xfce4-mixer and selected the card, volume settings are ok but still no sound
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:09] <robert__> I had win7, installed ubuntu... went to get 14.04 but accidently unintstalled my Grub using Wubi
[03:09] <Richhh> ill just double check the jack is right now :>
[03:09] <Richhh> jack is correct
[03:10] <robert__> hitsujiTMD,  had win7, installed ubuntu... went to get 14.04 but accidently unintstalled my Grub using Wubi
[03:10] <BillJobs> I'm having issues trying to get Netflix to stream on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: ahh that explains the odd setup you were reffering to. install boot-repair and run that
[03:11] <robert__> hitsujiTMD, thank you, trying now!
[03:11] <Beldar> robert__, use the bootrepair and be sure to save the bootinfo summary url generated when you run it to post here if needed.
[03:12] <BillJobs> Whole reason I switched to Ubuntu was because I thought it would solve an issue I was having with Netflix on Windows 8.1, but now I can't even figure out how to get the Netfli desktop app to launch
[03:12] <Beldar> not sure it will fix a wubi problem however.
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> BillJobs: the only thing i've heard that works is http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[03:12] <robert__> beldar, thank you i will be sure to save the url and post here if needed
[03:12] <jmgk> hello
[03:13] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: yeah one bit of advice. NEVER use wubi
[03:13] <Beldar> robert__, bootrepair should get any linux partitioned to be booting, the wubi not sure.
[03:14] <daftykins> WUBI should be murdered
[03:14] <BillJobs> Thanks hitsujiTMO, I'll give it a try
[03:14] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: you getting any output when running: speaker-test -c 2
[03:14] <Richhh> trying
[03:15] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: ctrl + c to cancel the test
[03:15] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: used those commands and reinstalled but still having the same issues,  no /etc/postgresql, postgres user, etc.
[03:16] <Richhh> no output
[03:16] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: try:sudo dpkg-reconfigure postgresql     or sudo dpkg-reconfigure postgresql-contrib
[03:17] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO: no output
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: can you fireup alsamixer and make sure nothing is muted. (00) = Stereo  (MM) = muted     press m to unmute/mute and up + down arrows to adjust volume
[03:18] <KI4RO> Well, I solved my Rhythmbox issue....I took the system from 13.10 back to 12.04; works perfectly again
[03:21] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: still no luck, neither the group nor user are created.  Seems there is some file that stops it from configuring correctly.  Can't find a way to fully remove all traces of postgresql
[03:22] <Ari-Yang> [22:18:39] <KI4RO> Well, I solved my Rhythmbox issue....I took the system from 13.10 back to 12.04; works perfectly again ---> 13.10 is still buggy I guess.... But why would you use rhythmbox? :V
[03:23] <john2x> how do I configure my laptop to be able to accept ssh access from other computers on the local network?
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: ahh ok then try: sudo apt-get purge postgresql postgresql-contrib  && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get clean
[03:24] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: Im back, I read your post, i think that it is activated should I deactivate it and chek it out?
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: once thats done can you then try and install just: postgresql and can you pastebin the full output
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: yup
[03:24] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO:  these are muted: 3d contr, wave cen, wave lfe, wave sur (not but wave), line, line liv, line2 liv, cd, mic, video, phone, s/pdif c, s/pdif l, s/pdif 0, s/ppdif t, beep, aux, sigmatel surround
[03:24] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: ok ill give it a try
[03:24] <Richhh> (but not wave)*
[03:24] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: brb
[03:24] <nkean> hitsujiTMO:  Will do
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: just unmute everything. leave no prisoners. then test again
[03:25] <Richhh> ok :]
[03:26] <segs> sudo apt-get install ssh
[03:26] <segs> that installs the ssh server
[03:26] <AssociateX> hitsujiTMO, thanks man, cheese is up and running.
[03:26] <AssociateX> meaning my video works.
[03:27] <hitsujiTMO> AssociateX: \o/ now go fireup chat roulette! :P
[03:30] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: That didnt work either, plus, it didnt recognize the FDD it was empty.
[03:30] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO: still no sound
[03:30] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: i'm out of ideas then :(
[03:30] <Guest99287> hi
[03:31] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: Lol maybe i should try MINT :(
[03:31] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/tu0MBY7a
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: and still nothing from: speaker-test -c 2    ???
[03:31] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: noooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:31] <Guest99287> something really weird just happened
[03:31] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: LOL
[03:32] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: did you apt-get install postgresql-9.1 at some point?
[03:32] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO: correct, still none
[03:33] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: no, should I?
[03:34] <Richhh> first time i saw 4 people asking for help from one guy at the same time lol
[03:34] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: no, can you again sudo apt-get purge postgresql                          and then pastebin: dpkg --get-selections | grep postgres
[03:34] <nkean> haha, yea, he's beastin it atm
[03:35] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: sure thing
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> Richhh: that suggest to me that its its hardware since alsa is not able to make any audio and its not muted. are speakers plugged into the green jack?
[03:36] <Guest99287> i was in the process of compiling and installing dnscrypt.. fresh xubuntu install .. couldn't ./configure in dnscrypt-proxy1-3-3 .. installed libsodium , restarted, and all of a sudden a new folder inside dnscrypt-proxy-1.3.3 called libltdl .. what the hell??
[03:36] <wannabe-u> how do you run chrome from the terminal?  i can't get it to work
[03:36] <hitsujiTMO> wannabe-u: google-chrome
[03:37] <wannabe-u> what do i type before that tho?
[03:37] <hitsujiTMO> wannabe-u: nothing. just type: google-chrome
[03:37] <wannabe-u> thanks
[03:37] <vats_monroe> anybody else wanna try and help me put
[03:38] <vats_monroe> help me out (im sorry)
[03:38] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO: theyre in the green yeah
[03:38] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/hmvgdAa5
[03:38] <Richhh> (the headphones are)
[03:38] <Guest99287> the directory had to create itself but i never encountered this problem with dnscrypt before
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6477100/
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get purge postgresql-9.1
[03:39] <robert__> beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6477100
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: then again paste the output, if there a crapton of stuff in the list dont continue with it
[03:40] <snadge> does anyone know how i can control whether the monitors turn on/off and how long for?
[03:40] <snadge> it doesnt seem to be in display settings or power settings :/
[03:40] <Guest99287> any ideas? i still cant ./configure dnscrypt :/
[03:41] <snadge> the really irritating part is that there seems to be a bug where one of the displays just disappears completely.. until i reload screen settings, then it turns back on again
[03:41] <nkean> hitsujiTMO:  2 to remove
[03:41] <snadge> and all my windows are then placed on random workspaces
[03:41] <robert__> hitsujiTMO, i have the GRUB boot issue... after using boot-repair i still am not able to see sda6 to boot from
[03:41] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: remove away and again pastebin the output
[03:42] <wafflejock> snadge: should be in the power settings
[03:43] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/TvYU9HzC
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: i'd try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc
[03:43] <snadge> wafflejock, found it.. its under "brightness settings" .. whut?
[03:43] <Richhh> hitsujiTMO: was hoping that wouldnt happen but just got a horrible audio attack lol.  when i checked the Mix Switch in Audio Mixer a nasty loud tone began and is still going even if i uncheck Mix now
[03:44] <robert__> hitsujiTMO, trying now... thank you
[03:44] <Richhh> trying to reset the volumes
[03:45] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: do you know where i can look to solve this?? im desperate lol
[03:45] <hackitbro> hey ppl
[03:45] <wafflejock> snadge: hmm strange.. I'm on kubuntu so It's Power Management in here
[03:46] <snadge> oh well.. ubuntu doesn't have to make sense.. just work ;)
[03:46] <wafflejock> right :)
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: not sure: it has to be something in your bios. normally the cuplrets are            quick boot/fast boot       or legacy usb support. but not here it seems
[03:46] <hackitbro> alright ppl lets get working
[03:46] <Cletus> Hey guys. I am trying to make this program run on startup...it isn't working though. I am restricted to the terminal if that helps.
[03:46] <snadge> its under "brightness & lock" in regular ubuntu
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: what brand of laptop is it again?
[03:46] <hackitbro> dell
[03:47] <Cletus> hahaha
[03:47] <Cletus> hackitbro's hostmask is not so anonymous
[03:47] <Cletus> dat IP
[03:47] <Cletus> anyway
[03:47] <Cletus> Can someone help me with making a program run on startup?
[03:47] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: the only thing i can think of is that some latops are hard coded to boot only windows or rhel ...
[03:48] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: Its a toshiba satellite, it only has normal boot and fast boot
[03:48] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: and you have it on normal boot?
[03:48] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: yes i have it on normal boot
[03:49] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: do you think the ISO is damaged perhaps?
[03:50] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: i checked the file size and it is what it is, but im running out of ideas as well, and i really want to try ubuntu you know since its more friendly to new users and all
[03:50] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: md5sum the iso
[03:51] <sumit_> best bet is to check the md5sum for the iso
[03:51] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTMO: ill check
[03:51] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO It works !
[03:51] <mastershake> hi
[03:51] <hitsujiTMO> vats_monroe: if your stuck with the uefi bug mentioned here: http://www.zdnet.com/linux-on-windows-8-pcs-some-progress-but-still-a-nuisance-7000010697/    then it might be an idea up update your bios/uefi
[03:52] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO Thanks a lot for your help :)
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> !yay Z k0rnmuz3
[03:52] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | k0rnmuz3
[03:52] <robert__> hitsujiTMO, that did not work... i think our issue is that the GRUB that sda6 is behind/after the MBR
[03:54] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: removed all traces relating to postgresql, should I restart before trying to install again?
[03:55] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: so dpkg --get-selections | grep postgresql                no longer has nay output?
[03:55] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: just two docs
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: kk, try: sudo apt-get clean                    then try installing just postgresql    no need for a reboot
[03:58] <vats_monroe> hitsujiTNO: its a match so thats not it
[03:59] <hitsujiTMO> k0rnmuz3: ok, so if trusty boots then that means a kernel update for saucy is required in order to install it. so you have 2 choices: stick with trust ( but its still alpha so probably a bit buggy ) or you need to do a debootstrap install of saucy from the trusty live cd and install the mainline kernel ( very complicated )
[04:00] <buck_> 你们好
[04:01] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: some error while installing, here's the http://pastebin.com/cMXkg9Ex
[04:01] <k0rnmuz3> hitsujiTMO Thx again guys ;)
[04:02] <robert__> hitsujiTMO, I still cannot boot from sda6, its not viewable from my Grub
[04:02] <Cletus> Can anyone help me execute this program on startup?
[04:02] <buck_> which program?
[04:03] <buck_> wow
[04:03] <Cletus> buck_: It's a script I made. I aded it to autostart but it won't execute
[04:03] <Cletus> it's driving me crazy
[04:03] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: its still expecting the user/group and not creating. did you create the user?
[04:03] <Cletus> added*
[04:04] <nkean> I added the user you posted earlier but did not create the group
[04:04] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: I'm out of ideas on how to trigger ubuntu to find the other OS. afaid it follows the mbr to find OSs but that chain already exists
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: sudo apt-get purge postgresql-9.1 postgresql-client-9.1 postgresql-client-common
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO>   postgresql-common
[04:05] <garshasp> um
[04:05] <garshasp> anyone know anything about netbootin
[04:05] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: sudo apt-get purge postgresql-9.1 postgresql-client-9.1 postgresql-client-common postgresql-common
[04:06] <hitsujiTMO> robert__: you could try in #grub
[04:07] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: Ok, done purging, you want the output?
[04:07] <robert__> hitsujiTMD, I really want to get rid of Win7 Completely...
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: nah, i'll find the group info now
[04:08] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: its just:                  postgres:x:110:
[04:08] <lapion> Hello, I have been having issues with bluetooth, for some reason the default setting for bluetooth in saucy is off, and one has to turn it on several times before it actually goes on. and then the state is not remembered over reboot.
[04:09] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: postgres user is also a member of ssl-cert
[04:09] <lapion> This problem happens accross the board fro desktop-/windows-managers for new install and upgrade alike, on several machines
[04:11] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: how would I fix the ssl-cert part?
[04:11] <robert__> hitsujiTMD, thank you... trying that session ow
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: usermod-aG ssl-cert postgres
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: usermod -aG ssl-cert postgres                sorry
[04:12] <hitsujiTMO> make sure its a capital G
[04:12] <lapion> can anyone help me with this bluetooth problem ?
[04:12] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: awesome thanks.  So now I should be good to install again?
[04:13] <hitsujiTMO> nkean: hopefully. try again with just postgresql    and pastebin the output
[04:15] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/QGGVfKSL
[04:16] <hitsujiTMO> o.O   is it working so?
[04:16] <Cletus> Is there a way to execute a program automatically *after* my computer has fully started up?
[04:16] <nkean> hitsujiTMO: It's working! Your a miracle worker my friend!
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | nkean
[04:17] <hitsujiTMO> nkean, now go ahead and install postgresql-contrib
[04:19] <hitsujiTMO> time for bed. later guys
[04:21] <reisio> konbonwa!
[04:27] <babinlonston> Hi , all  I ahve Fijutsu Primergy MX130 S2 Micro Server , I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 server edition in it and Need to Install Guest operating systems in it , is it possible to manage graphically if i install KVM in it ?
[04:32] <wafflejock> babinlonston: no idea what you mean by install KVM in it
[04:33] <wafflejock> babinlonston: you can use VNC to graphically remote in to your DE
[04:33] <babinlonston> ok will u please provide me any documentation to hypervise it
[04:43] <mastershake> hey, can someone help me for a minute? something weird just happened.. im in the process of compiling something, and after rebooting everything in the directory is gone except for a new directory that still doesn't get my application running. what the hell is going on?
[04:44] <Cletus> hey guys I added a script to /etc/init.d and updated rc.d but it isn't executing this program
[04:44] <Cletus> any ideas?
[04:45] <compdoc> Cletus, are permissions correct? is it set as executable?
[04:45] <Cletus> compdoc: yes
[04:45] <Cletus> it's set as executable, how do I check the permissions?
[04:45] <Cletus> maybe that is it
[04:46] <compdoc> ls -al
[04:47] <Cletus> ok
[04:47] <Cletus> compdoc: -rwxr-xr-x  1
[04:48] <compdoc> root root?
[04:48] <Cletus> idk? I didn't set it
[04:48] <compdoc> owner group
[04:48] <Cletus> does that explain why it can't execute it?
 ok, that is the scenario: I have a ext4 partition on a pendrive, and another ext4 partition ENCRYPTED witk cryptsetup+luks on my notebook. I want to install the /boot uncrypted of course on the pendrive also the boot loader on pendrive. I know how to open and mout the luks partition, but after reboot my system will boot ok ?
[04:51] <compdoc> Cletus, its possible the script doesnt work. Or that the file system is ready when it executes
[04:51] <compdoc> *isnt
[04:52] <Cletus> compdoc: when I execute the file directly, it runs
[04:52] <Cletus> I mean, exactly as it should too
[04:52] <Cletus> I have been battling with this for 2 hours
[04:59] <vats_monroe> hey there guys, how are you? i could use some help trying to install ubuntu, earlier somebody was trying to help me but it just wouldnt work out so if you guys can give me a hand i would be much obliged
[05:01] <vats_monroe> please, I really need some help here
[05:01] <xmetal> !anyone
[05:01] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: wehre are you at?
[05:02] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: at the momento in Mexico
[05:02] <vats_monroe> why?
[05:02] <Djyou> !poll
[05:02] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: ha oh meant that metaphorically not physcially
[05:02] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: lol
[05:03] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: just meant where are you at this point in the process can you refresh those of us who didn't see what's going on
[05:03] <vats_monroe> heres my situation i have been trying litteraly all day trying to install ubuntu on my laptop
[05:03] <vats_monroe> with no success
[05:03] <xmetal> !details
[05:03] <vats_monroe> im trying to do it with a flas drive
[05:03] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: was yours the Win 8.1 you want to dual boot
[05:03] <vats_monroe> booting from a flash drive
[05:04] <vats_monroe> yes
[05:04] <vats_monroe> thats the one
[05:04] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: okay yeah I recall the conversation a bit now so you've seen
[05:04] <wafflejock> !uefi
[05:04] <vats_monroe> so i figured hey why not try it out on a VM
[05:04] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: okay what was the result there?
[05:04] <xmetal> ah ... apparently things have changed a bit in win8 from what i here... i dualboot with xp and linux on one pc and win7 and linux on this pc
[05:07] <vats_monroe> so i did, and di get to the ubuntu menu however i get this message when i try to install to test it "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU, unable to boot - please use a kernel appropiate for your CPU.
[05:07] <wafflejock> I just have Kubuntu 13.04 with Win 8 in a VM won't upgrade to 8.1 but I don't really care just use it for photoshop, desktop is dual boot OS X for testing and Win 7 for gaming
[05:07] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: believe that can be a problem with the VM configuration not necessarily an issue otherwise
[05:07] <xmetal> :) haven't really used PS here since I found and got use to using GIMP
[05:07] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: i set it up to it uses amd-vx
[05:07] <wafflejock> xmetal: congrats I'd like to get there eventually but still stuck
[05:07] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: but still no luck, at least i got to see the screen this time lol
[05:07] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: any ideas
[05:08] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: well it's just saying that it expects a 64 bit architecture processor but it's only seeing the proc as 32 bit
[05:09] <ubulost> Does anyone know how to delete "recent" files from ubuntu 13.04?  deleting from "privacy" did not work and deleting ".recently-used" didn't do it either
[05:10] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: you could just get 32 bit ISO and try that out might be better for within the VM anyhow since it takes more memory to run 64 bit
[05:11] <xmetal> ubulost, Bleachbit may help
[05:11] <xmetal> !bleachbit
[05:11] <vats_monroe> afflejock: thats crazy!!! lLOL, ill download the other ISO then, samething happened to me with backtrackr3
[05:11] <xmetal> hmm ,... bot doesn't like me
[05:11] <xmetal> ah ... i doesn't know about bleachbit
[05:11] <ubulost> I'll check it out
[05:11] <xmetal> i know Bleachbit is in the Mint (default) repo's
[05:11] <xmetal> hmm
[05:19] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: do you have any idea why i wasnt able to boot it from the flash drive if i do have a 64 bit architechture
[05:19] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: no I think it's unrelated, even with the wrong iso for an architecture it usually tells you
[05:20] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: think that's just a problem booting from USB possibly
[05:20] <ubulost> You can delete recent files by just highlighting them and chosing delete from the drop down menu and this does not delete the file referenced.  That was the answer
[05:20] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: have you tried with other flash drives if possible
[05:20] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: or is a disc an option?
[05:21] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: disc is not an option but ill give it another shot with a different usb after the download finishes
[05:21] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: it just beats me not being able to do anything, I know i dont have a super computer but its no that bad considering you know? LOL
[05:22] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: yeah the 32 bit should work on 64 bit anyhow but if you check the md5sum of the iso vs the one provided on the page you can verify the download is all good beforehand, the flash drives have been finicky for me, some brands work without a hitch others don't work, different ports on the computer sometimes makes a difference etc. etc.
[05:25] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: thats going to be fun.... trying all the ports with differente flash drives =>
[05:26] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: yeah that's why I asked if a disc was an option...
[05:27] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: some computers and flash drives it's no problem every time... I have a System76 computer and some Kingston 8GB flash drives that I loaded a bunch of random ISOs on and they all work every time, but with other laptops and desktops my experience has been variable
[05:27] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: geeeez i have to make a run for some disks later this week, ive just been to lazy, you know that we have virtual mounting, virtual this and that, usb's its hard to remember those round things lol
[05:27] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: heh yeah I'm always running out of CDs/DVDs somehow
[05:28] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: even with the flash media I use them a lot for random little things (clonezilla, xubuntu for older machines etc.)
[05:28] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: i use kingstone as well, all of them are, hope thats not the issue :<
[05:29] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: well mine that are kingston work they say DTSE9 on them
[05:29] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: yeah these guys DTSE9
[05:29] <wafflejock> oops
[05:29] <wafflejock> https://www.google.com/search?q=DTSE9&oq=DTSE9&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.367j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[05:29] <Mongo44> Is Debian considered linux?
[05:29] <wafflejock> got 5 of them
[05:29] <wafflejock> Mongo44: yes
[05:30] <wafflejock> Mongo44: anything that uses the linux kernel is Linux
[05:30] <Beldar> Mongo44, Linux is the kernel it uses the linux kernel.
[05:30] <xmetal> man i hate how google adds a ton of junk to the search URLS
[05:30] <angrycoast> anyone have experience booting a virtualbox off a micro sd
[05:30] <wafflejock> Mongo44: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Linux_Distribution_Timeline.svg
[05:30] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: lol i was checking them out before you came up with that lol
[05:31] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: yeah I like em, pretty on the cheap and I just stuck stickers on 5 of em and loaded them up with different ISOs... should really play with them again, one is just used for data but the other 4 are fair game at any time :)
[05:33] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: nice, that reminds me i havent been on CIV5 in a while, i might as well play later on, after im done installing ubuntu, gosh its taken me all day to do it, got to love computers!!
[05:34] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: yeah sometimes it can be a fighting experience, at least lately lots of the drivers seem to work pretty well (wifi, scanners, printers etc. etc.)
[05:35] <wafflejock> !tab > Mongo44
[05:36] <xmetal> only issues i have ever had with Ubuntu (i started at version 9.04) was wifi... which was the only way i could get online to get the drivers
[05:36] <xmetal> that was interesting lol
[05:36] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: thats funny, I never really saw that in that particular maner, interesting but you have a point its been a while since I had any of those issues
[05:37] <wafflejock> xmetal: yeah wifi used to be a constant nightmare, it still causes some people problems here or there but doesn't seem nearly as prevelant
[05:38] <wafflejock> I was always using ndiswrapper before like 10.04 or something
[05:38] <flugh> wifi was horrible for me until i realized it was not a common misspelling for "wife". i'm not nearly as scared of it now
[05:39] <xmetal> the issue was the only way i could get online to get the wifi drivers ... was wifi connection
[05:39] <vats_monroe> lol
[05:39] <xmetal> support has improved in most of the distros i have been trying
[05:39] <wafflejock> haha
[05:39] <wafflejock> xmetal: yeah I always had ethernet around
[05:39] <wafflejock> xmetal: now 95% of the time I'd say it just works
[05:39] <flugh> yeah in windows i saw that a few times. "windows can not connect to the internet. would you like to get help from microsoft.com?"
[05:40] <wafflejock> I still keep ethernet around
[05:40] <wafflejock> flugh: haha
[05:40] <vats_monroe> hahahahahhahaha
[05:40] <wafflejock> flugh: so helpful microsoft
[05:40] <xmetal> yes yes
[05:40] <xmetal> thats MS for ya
[05:40] <vats_monroe> flugh: epic
[05:40] <xmetal> the only way to get help getting connected is to be online in the first place which means you .. dont havec a connection issue
[05:41] <xmetal> (~insert Homer Simpson "Doh!" here~)
[05:44] <xmetal> uh
[05:44]  * xmetal trying to figure out what just happened
[05:45] <k4rp> Can someone help me out with and issue I'm having when trying to install fglrx, and amd video card drivers? I've already installed fglrx, and have followed the guide on the "unofficial amd driver ubuntu wiki" to installing catalyst, and so on. However, when trying to launch games, it gives me errors like "Update your OpenGL drivers", or "You need fglrx-experimental-12 or above installed". Anyone with a similar issue?
[05:46] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: i must be an idiot, i set up the vm for other linux instead of other linux 64, i hate myself
[05:46] <vats_monroe> ubuntu running
[05:46] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: oh I'm sorry, I thought of that too sort of but figured it wasn't worth asking
[05:46] <wafflejock> !yay | vats_monroe
[05:46] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: please shoot me
[05:47] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: hah well now you can start tweaking to your hearts content or play some Civ 5 and deal with it tomorrow :)
[05:47] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: that feeling when you know you did something dumb enough to not let anyone know about, thats how i feel
[05:47] <wafflejock> haha well confession done so you're in the clear :)
[05:47] <vats_monroe> wafflejock: lol
[05:48] <q0> how can i underclock/decrease (not sure about the terms here?) CPU and memory of a laptop which is hard to open
[05:48] <q0> i wasn't planning to break it ofc
[05:48] <vats_monroe> Thanks for everything, ill start checking ubuntu, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all your help and suport, its great to have people to come to when you are in trouble
[05:48] <q0> still any ideas appreciated :)
[05:50] <wafflejock> vats_monroe: no problem glad you were able to get it sorted ultimately
[05:51] <wafflejock> q0: generally speaking it's something you would do through the BIOS configuration, if your BIOS doesn't support such voltage throttling options and such then you would need to rely on the governer files I believe but YMMV
[05:52] <xiaolin> can I ask a MAAS question here?
[05:53] <xangua> xiaolin: don't know about it but there is  #maas
[05:53] <q0> have you seen examples of tuned hardware even when it wasn't supported ? and approaches like these could be stable ?
[05:54] <Mongo44> Does anyone know how to reduce screen brightness below the dimmest given setting? I use redshift doesn't seem to help much.
[05:54] <wafflejock> q0: I've tweaked my BIOS settings before on my desktop to reduce the clock speed of the proc without issue, in terms of modifying the governer files I'm not sure
[05:55] <wafflejock> q0: the clock speed changes I made aren't avaialble on my laptop BIOS though it doesn't have as many options... it just depends on the BIOS
[05:56] <GrendelT> So here's an odd one: i have a miniITX machine (embedded Radeon video), i can boot to Unity but one monitor (HannsG) says "Out of Range" other monitor (an HP) works fine.
[05:56] <wafflejock> q0: but there are some CPU governer files that are meant to limit the clock rate for each proc to some degree, not sure how much control this really gives you though
[05:56] <wafflejock> GrendelT: Out of Range means the frequency and/or resolution isn't supported
[05:56] <GrendelT> If I get it working on the HP monitor *then* hook to the HannsG, the HannsG works just fine, but the Display setting still shows HP monitor
[05:56] <GrendelT> weird, huh?
[05:56] <wafflejock> GrendelT: does sound strange yes
[05:57] <wafflejock> GrendelT: perhaps it thinks the first monitor supports higher or lower settings than it actual supports
[05:57] <GrendelT> wafflejock: it works through all resolutions
[05:58] <GrendelT> wafflejock: is there a way to explicity say which res and rate i want?
[05:58] <nixm> wafflejock good to see you again
[05:58] <GrendelT> wafflejock: (and have it ignore what it detects?)
[05:58] <nixm> wafflejock hopefully all is going good for you
[05:58] <wafflejock> nixm: yup doing pretty well
[05:59]  * GrendelT brb
[05:59] <wafflejock> GrendelT: gotta be honest here I'm not entirely sure ATM what the deal is with Xorg.conf but I believe it's what you need to be looking at
[05:59] <wafflejock> nixm: hope you're doing good as well... actually brb myself
[06:00] <GrendelT> wafflejock:  kthx
[06:00] <wafflejock> !xorg | GrendelT
[06:01] <wafflejock> np good luck on that one... video issues can be troublesome
[06:02] <GrendelT> wafflejock: looked there, but saw nothing regarding monitor detection
[06:02] <GrendelT> i have to admit, i'm old school Slackware user (from 97)
[06:02] <GrendelT> been gone for a long time and was throughly impress with how far the desktop has come
[06:03] <wafflejock> GrendelT: yeah it's pretty awesome now :) you see this part too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ?
[06:04] <GrendelT> wafflejock: yeah - no dice
[06:04] <kkkkkkk> hi all, i am using sakis 3g to connect to internet, because modem-manager doesn't detect well, i want sakis 3g to permanant remember my password, everytime i starts sakis 3g after reboot, it asks for my admin pass., how to solve that
[06:05] <kkkkkkk> is there any way to give permanant authorization to sakis 3g
[06:07] <fling> May not I use jaunty?
[06:08] <fling> apt-get is not installing anything
[06:08] <fling> getting 404 on update
[06:08] <fling> How to fix?
[06:08] <kkkkkkk> how to permanantely grant root access to a specific program
[06:08] <kkkkkkk> not all, but only a specific program
[06:08] <wafflejock> fling: means it can't connect 404 page not found
[06:08] <fling> kkkkkkk: visudo
[06:09] <fling> wafflejock: right so what to put into /etc/sources.list ?
[06:09] <kkkkkkk> fling: you are asking to edit /etc/sudoers
[06:09] <fling> kkkkkkk: no, to run visudo
[06:09] <kkkkkkk> fling: then what
[06:09] <kkkkkkk> next
[06:09] <wafflejock> fling: you just need to know the default /etc/sources.list ?  if so what version of the OS?
[06:10] <wafflejock> fling: lsb_release -a
[06:10] <kkkkkkk> this will grant root access permanantly??
[06:10] <fling> kkkkkkk: add an user a permission to run your command as root
[06:11] <fling> wafflejock: ubuntu 9.04 jaunty
[06:11] <kkkkkkk> no, i want only a specific program to run without password, other programs should ask for password,  i will be back here in few minutes, sorry
[06:11] <fling> kkkkkkk: you can set it to run without a password
[06:11] <fling> kkkkkkk: read the examples
[06:12] <wafflejock> fling: that's out of support
[06:12] <fling> wafflejock: I have the default I think
[06:12] <fling> wafflejock: so what should I do?
[06:12] <jmgk> kkkkkkk:  hey
[06:12] <fling> jmgk: hello
[06:12] <jmgk> hey fling
[06:12] <wafflejock> fling: I'm honestly not entirely sure, what're you trying to do with the system?
[06:13] <fling> wafflejock: just need to install wine, nothing else
[06:13] <Beldar> fling, You running jaunty?
[06:13] <fling> Beldar: it is andLinux
[06:13] <fling> it has jaunty inside
[06:13] <jmgk> kkkkkkk:  here
[06:13] <jmgk> ?
[06:13] <jmgk> hm
[06:13] <Beldar> fling, Long past end of life, no regular repo access and no support basically.
[06:14] <GrendelT> wafflejock: got it. i'm using a radeon... I needed to run 'aticonfig --initial' and then configure my supported resolutions.
[06:14] <fling> wafflejock: Beldar: is it possible to install wine on it somehow?
[06:14] <GrendelT> wafflejock: xrandr says the monitor supports a higher res than it really does, so i had to omit that from the list
[06:14] <Beldar> fling, we can't really help you here with that, you need to get a supported release installed.
[06:15] <wafflejock> GrendelT: ah nice congrats
[06:15] <GrendelT> if i use synaptic instead of the ubuntu sofware center or apt-get --- will they conflict?
[06:15] <fling> Beldar: is it possible to partly upgrade without breaking things?
[06:15] <GrendelT> or is synaptic just a front end for apt-get?
[06:15] <wafflejock> GrendelT: no synaptic is jsut a front end
[06:16] <GrendelT> rgr
[06:16] <Beldar> fling, partly upgrade?
[06:16] <fling> Beldar: what is the oldes supported?
[06:16] <xangua> GrendelT: if you have two open ant the same time, yes
[06:16] <Beldar> 12.04
[06:16] <wafflejock> GrendelT: just don't run them at the same time you know
[06:16] <fling> Beldar: gentoo here, I never used ubuntu :>
[06:16] <wafflejock> GrendelT: it will mostly stop you but try not to have dpkg doing two installs at once
[06:16] <GrendelT> right
[06:16] <wafflejock> apt uses that and everything else basically uses apt
[06:16] <Beldar> fling, So what is it you have?
[06:16] <fling> Beldar: so will it break if I will change sources.list and will install wine from 12.04?
[06:16] <GrendelT> (i'm used to make install and stuff haha)
[06:17] <GrendelT> (i remember when rpms were still looked down upon)
[06:17] <fling> Beldar: I mean I'm new to ubuntu
[06:17] <kkkkkkk> fling: let me see some examples, and thanks
[06:17] <wafflejock> GrendelT: yeah sounds like you're all good just good to throw out the precautions
[06:17] <fling> kkkkkkk: visudo gives examples
[06:17] <Beldar> fling, Install 12.04 and call it a day, you have no access to the repos.
[06:17] <GrendelT> wafflejock: right. glad i asked
[06:17] <GrendelT> i'll lurk and help where i can
[06:17] <GrendelT> thanks
[06:18] <fling> Beldar: install 12.04?
[06:18] <N5DUX> name change
[06:18]  * N5DUX is GrendelT
[06:18] <wafflejock> N5DUX: yup np
[06:18] <wafflejock> glad you got your wacky monitor issue sorted, silly monitors
[06:19] <Beldar> fling, Ubuntu has a limited release on every release, a time until its end of life and not supported, not a real complex subject really.
[06:19] <N5DUX> silly *cheap* monitors
[06:20] <fling> Beldar: I have a working system, should I upgrade now somehow?
[06:20] <N5DUX> it was actually a store display from Target i picked up last year for $40
[06:20] <N5DUX> 19 LCD
[06:20] <Beldar> fling, an up grade to 91.0 then 10.04 then 12.04 it would take you days.
[06:20] <Beldar> 9.10*
[06:20] <fling> oh! ok
[06:21] <Beldar> !eol | fling
[06:21] <fling> Beldar: http://www.andlinux.org/index.php
[06:23] <fling> Beldar: may not I just use something like this repo to install wine? > http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:24] <xangua> fling: yes, an Old wine
[06:24] <wafflejock> fling: you can try to find the .deb online but you may need to manually find it's dependencies as well
[06:24] <fling> xangua: yes this is what I want! thanks
[06:24] <fling> wafflejock: are not they in the repo?
[06:24] <xangua> fling: you want old and unsupported software¿
[06:24] <fling> xangua: yes
[06:26] <Beldar> fling, Is this andlinux in XP?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> fling: We don't support AndLinux here, and we don't support EOL releases either. Try using the support fora available for AndLinux.
[06:33] <senaxfz> andLinux sounds terrible
[06:34] <senaxfz> fling, why are you even still trying to run andLInux??
[06:35] <senaxfz> just run a linux distro, and run M$ Windows 2k,XP,2003,Vista,7,8,8.1,whatever in a VM...    OR  install a release that is still under support and install wine and winetricks
[06:40] <shams> hello guyes please , need someone who can help me with setting up blender with CUDA Nvidia on my machine intel core i7 with ubuntu 12.04 Nvidia 640.
[06:51] <Guardian1> im having trouble getting gunicorn to work... i get - "gunicorn                         FATAL      Exited too quickly (process log may have details)"
[06:53] <Lothsahn> I'm getting io hangs with the following message in dmesg: "INFO: task kworker/0:3:4212 blocked for more than 120 seconds."
[06:53] <MVanDruff> my distro stopped reading my sound card anyone know how to fix?
[06:53] <Lothsahn> My RAID array is not reporting any problems with the disks, and I can still access most folders...  ANyone know what might cause this?  Google doesn't seem to yield many results.
[06:54] <Lothsahn> Using Ubuntu 13.10
[06:58] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: use lcpic -k to see what's going on
[06:58] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: lcpci -k
[06:58] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: should show all your PCI devices and what module is loaded for it
[06:59] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: you can also use alsamixer by doing sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[06:59] <wafflejock> !alsa
[06:59] <fling> xangua: thanks
[07:00] <fling> Beldar: wafflejock: just added this to sources list http://dpaste.com/1483191/
[07:00] <fling> ubottu: and installed wine successfully
[07:00] <linuxlite1969> hi
[07:00] <fling> Jordan_U: without any upgrade
[07:01] <linuxlite1969> anyone here using xfce4?
[07:01] <fling> senaxfz: because I needed the fastest way to run an app in wine on windows
[07:01] <Jordan_U> fling: You're running code with *known security vulnerabilities*. That is nowhere near a good idea.
[07:01] <wafflejock> fling: that seems so crazy? why wine in windows?
[07:01] <fling> wafflejock: because windows sucks and is not running it's own apps
[07:01] <wafflejock> linuxlite1969: not regularly have it on my AWS instance
[07:02] <MVanDruff> http://pastebin.com/NaJF32YU
[07:02] <fling> Jordan_U: I don't need it anymore, needed to run once
[07:02] <MVanDruff> this is what happens when i try both those commands in terminal http://pastebin.com/NaJF32YU
[07:03] <linuxlite1969> well a bit of problem
[07:04] <linuxlite1969> how can i reset all the setting to default?
[07:07] <wafflejock> linuxlite1969: think you would want to use dpkg-reconfigure
[07:08] <wafflejock> not sure exactly what package to target though
[07:08] <wafflejock> linuxlite1969: what's wrong atm
[07:09] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: sorry it was lspci -k
[07:09] <linuxlite1969> ok ill try
[07:09] <wafflejock> not sure wht I wrote earlier
[07:09] <MVanDruff> 	Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 0058
[07:09] <wafflejock> the alsa-utils just showed you already have it
[07:09] <wafflejock> alsamixer
[07:09] <wafflejock> that will show a mixer that's in alsa-utils package
[07:10] <wafflejock> and F6 in there to switch devices
[07:10] <wafflejock> if you don't see it there then the driver/module you see loaded in the lcpci -k isn't working for some reason or the hardware has a problem
[07:10] <MVanDruff> how do i get to alsa mixer
[07:10] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: you should have it since it said you already have alsa-utils
[07:10] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: alsamixer
[07:10] <wafflejock> at the command line
[07:11] <MVanDruff> how do i start it in the command line
[07:12] <wafflejock> just type: alsamixer
[07:12] <MVanDruff> marion@marion-desktop:~$ alsamixer
[07:12] <MVanDruff> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[07:14] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: idk what's going on there
[07:14] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: can sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-utils
[07:14] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: dpkg -L alsa-utils
[07:15] <wafflejock> that shows all the files in alsa-utils
[07:15] <wafflejock> you'll see alsamixer in /usr/bin
[07:15] <wafflejock> dpkg -L alsa-utils | grep alsamixer
[07:15] <Beldar> MVanDruff, what does this command show. lsb_release -a
[07:17] <MVanDruff> http://pastebin.com/K2xuV4qC
[07:19] <shams> hello guys, is there someone who can help me setting up my blender on ubuntu with CUDA Nvidia  please.
[07:19] <Beldar> MVanDruff, Have you removed anything related to sound?
[07:19] <MVanDruff> not at all
[07:19] <Mongo44> Mother hen may I have your eggs? I sometimes ask my hens.
[07:19] <MVanDruff> i dont delete stuff
[07:21] <wafflejock> shams: what's the problem?
[07:21] <wafflejock> shams: you have Blender installed?
[07:21] <wafflejock> shams: and you go into the preferences and enable CUDA?
[07:21] <Beldar> MVanDruff, Not sure to be honest, the alsamixer not showing is rather strange is why I asked.
[07:21] <shams> wafflejock, when i render using GPU it dose not work.
[07:21] <shams> gives me blank screen
[07:22] <shams> yes i did, and it shows in render panel too
[07:23] <MVanDruff> ok when i use file manager to go to usr and bin i see alsamixer there
[07:23] <Beldar> MVanDruff, If it were me I would start with making a another user account and see if this is all the same there, and if so try a live enviroment.
[07:23] <MVanDruff> but it wont load
[07:25] <shams> Wafflejock, i have ubuntu 12.04, Nvidia 640, Blender 2.69 i did many fresh install, one time it worked, but i messed up by upgrading my ubuntu because i wanted 32bit lib for some other program, now i dont remember how i did it. I am trying for a week now.
[07:28] <wafflejock> shams: so you just went into the preferences and changed it to use the GPU?
[07:29] <shams> Wafflejock, yes i changed in preferences, to use GPU.
[07:33] <imran_> hi
[07:33] <shams> hello imran
[07:33] <jmgk> hi imran_
[07:33] <imran_> sir iam facing some problem with ubuntu
[07:33] <jmgk> where are you from?
[07:33] <jmgk> :)
[07:33] <imran_> iam from hyderabad
[07:33] <wafflejock> shams: sorry not sure what to tell yah... I have a GTX 670 on my desktop but my GPU on my laptop is hardly a GPU
[07:33] <jmgk> ah
[07:34] <shams> thanks wafflejock
[07:34] <imran_> sir i want to connect to windows system via ubuntu without disturbing windows user
[07:34] <linuxlite1969> imran_ u need to use metasploit
[07:35] <imran_> sir it is in my company
[07:35] <eg0x> he just could mount the share, if hes permitted to connect / good some login credentials
[07:35] <imran_> there are 24 windows system and 10ubuntu system
[07:35] <eg0x> imran_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:36] <jmgk> Night all
[07:36] <eg0x> you could use nautilus (or another prog like it) to do it on gui
[07:36] <shams> night jmgk
[07:36] <jmgk> night
[07:36] <imran_> actually problem is i need internet explorer on ubuntu
[07:36] <imran_> so i want to connect to windows to access internet explorer
[07:36] <shams> hello guys, is there someone who can help me setting up my blender on ubuntu with CUDA Nvidia  please.
[07:37] <jmgk> imran_:  try Wine
[07:37] <imran_> i tried but not able to get adobe flash plugin
[07:37] <imran_> i dont want the windows user to disturb
[07:37] <geirha> imran_: connect to it with remote desktop?
[07:38] <eg0x> imran_: you could use wine (winetricks) to emulate ie on linux
[07:38] <imran_> but user i s getting log off when iam connection with remote desktop
[07:38] <imran_> actually i want to open separate session of windows from ubuntu
[07:38] <Jordan_U> imran_: Why do you need IE?
[07:38] <geirha> Ah, you probably need a server install for that. Anyway, that's more of a Windows question anyway.
[07:39] <imran_> for running pact software
[07:39] <imran_> which is ie supported software which run only in ie7
[07:39] <eg0x> imran_: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=25
[07:41] <imran_> thanks for the link
[07:41] <imran_> iam checking will come back to you soon
[07:41] <Jordan_U> imran_: ##windows would be a good place to ask also.
[07:42] <imran_> thanks
[07:44] <DF3D2> hi, seems some user is trying to brute force my ssh server is this a normal thing for internet facing servers, or should I be worried ?
[07:44] <imran_> the link which you have given for ie 7 it contains adobe flash plugin problem
[07:45] <garshasp> have q about windows install of 12.04 from netbootin
[07:45] <eg0x> garshasp: just ask :)
[07:46] <garshasp> i get failed to unmount partitions error after designating partitions in install dialogue
[07:46] <garshasp> soo
[07:46] <garshasp> idk, im just lost basically, apparently i missed a step by not editing grub.cfg file?
[07:47] <rahuldroy> Hi Everyone, I am having a lot of issues with the wifi. It detects correctly but it doesn't connect to my home wifi. when I ran dmesg command, it says deauthenticating from * by local choice (reason=3)
[07:48] <garshasp> if i can talk to anyone lol
[07:50] <imran_> not able to install that
[07:50] <imran_> internet explorer
[07:50] <eg0x> garshasp: are you following any kind of instructions? usually its not nessessary to edit the grub conf
[07:50] <eg0x> imran_: you`ve used winetricks for the installation?
[07:50] <garshasp> eg0x yes i am lol
[07:50] <imran_> yes
[07:51] <garshasp> eg0x can i have a word with you in pm i am going crazy lol
[07:51] <eg0x> garshasp: nope, iam at work, please ask your questions here
[07:52] <garshasp> eg0x can you look at the instructions?
[07:52] <garshasp> it says to put some menuentry script into the cfg
[07:53] <garshasp> the code looks mostly legit when compared to the official ubuntu stuff, with some slight differences
[07:53] <eg0x> garshasp: sure post it as link or on pastebin
[07:53] <garshasp> mostly syntactical order differences
[07:53] <garshasp> ok
[07:53] <garshasp> http://logytips.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-install-linux-ubuntu-1204-lts.html
[07:53] <garshasp> dont laugh, this is the most coherent version of the process ive encountered thus far
[07:54] <imran_> when iam installing ie7 getting erro update failed
[07:54] <garshasp> i get as far as the partition, but i skipped the config part
[07:54] <imran_> when iam installing ie7 getting error update failed
[07:54] <garshasp> i think this will work but i dont want to edit the config file and with this specious bootloader
[07:56] <imran_> ?
[07:56] <eg0x> garshasp: if you own a usb stick, you could use unetbootin (with that iso of ubuntu you want to install) and make it bootable. there will (usually) be no need to edit grub configs
[07:56] <garshasp> eg0x i dont have a usb stick and want to do a hard drive install
[07:57] <garshasp> a hard drive install should be possible this guide purports to show how to do that
[07:58] <eg0x> yeah, its possible, but i`m not familiar with this way of installing. perhaps anybody here is and is able to guide you a little better
[07:58] <gordonjcp> garshasp: what exactly are you trying to do?
[07:59] <Beldar> garshasp, You have a install or recovery medium for windows, in case needed?
[08:00] <garshasp> no dont think so
[08:00] <garshasp> this is an older dell
[08:00] <garshasp> i just want to know where in the config file this code is supposed to go
[08:00] <Beldar> garshasp, Make a recoverfy stick or cd, you are going to overwrite the mbr.
[08:00] <imran_> need your help on ie 7 installation ?
[08:00] <garshasp> i dont have either
[08:01] <garshasp> i havent booted this mbr overwrite asking for advice on where to edit the config file
[08:01] <Beldar> garshasp, Pity, if you screw up and can't boot ubuntu you will have a nice door stopper.
[08:02] <Ben64> garshasp: you really should spring for a blank cd or something
[08:02] <gordonjcp> Beldar: I don't see why it wouldn't boot Ubuntu
[08:02] <imran_> how to install adobe flash plugin in ie 7 ubuntu?
[08:02] <garshasp> um
[08:02] <gordonjcp> garshasp: will it boot and run off the USB stick?
[08:02] <garshasp> there is no stick
[08:02] <garshasp> i have 0 sticks
[08:02] <Ben64> gordonjcp: because its overwriting windows' mbr without having a backup option
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> imran_: ie 7?
[08:02] <gordonjcp> Ben64: <shrug>
[08:02] <gordonjcp> that's normal
[08:02] <reisio> imran_: what for? :p
[08:03] <Ben64> gordonjcp: it really isn't
[08:03] <garshasp> evidently this guy did it
[08:03] <Beldar> gordonjcp, I did not say it would happen, but how many times a day do we help people with screwed up installs, and not having a way to fix the windows boot is irresponsible.
[08:03] <Ben64> gordonjcp: keep in mind this is before the installer even runs
[08:03] <gordonjcp> Ben64: hm, that sounds a bit weird
[08:03] <gordonjcp> Ben64: doesn't sound like the normal Ubuntu installer
[08:03] <Ben64> then you should read the scrollback before saying something is fine : /
[08:04] <imran_> there is a windows support account software known as pact which run in only ie7 ?
[08:04] <Ben64> imran_: uh, we don't really support IE here
[08:04] <imran_> so i have installed ie7 on ubuntu , but it is asking for adobe flash plugin to view the charts and other functions of pact software
[08:05] <imran_> iam using ie7 on ubuntu?
[08:05] <gordonjcp> garshasp: how are you installing Ubuntu then?
[08:05] <imran_> thats y need answer from you please?
[08:05] <garshasp> gordonjcp using netbootin
[08:05] <gordonjcp> imran_: IE is not supported here
[08:05] <gordonjcp> garshasp: okay, from what?  You said you're not using a USB stick
[08:05] <Romance> imran_: #winehq
[08:05] <Ben64> imran_: through wine. at best you should be asking in #winehq
[08:05] <reisio> imran_: pretty unlikely, try telling the site you're using IE7 with http://chrispederick.com/work/user-agent-switcher/
[08:06] <garshasp> gordonjcp hard drive install c
[08:06] <gordonjcp> garshasp: okay, that's not going to work
[08:06] <b14> Imran : juet use firefox or gchrome then
[08:06] <Beldar> gordonjcp, here is there install method, no cd's or usb for either OS. http://logytips.blogspot.com/2013/10/how-to-install-linux-ubuntu-1204-lts.html
[08:06] <gordonjcp> Beldar: yeah
[08:06] <gordonjcp> that's not going to work
[08:06] <Beldar> ;)
[08:07] <gordonjcp> garshasp: get a USB stick and install it normally
[08:07] <garshasp> http://sourceforge.net/projects/grub2win/
[08:07] <Ben64> its definitely possible, but too dangerous for me to recommend
[08:07] <garshasp> he uses this
[08:07]  * gordonjcp -> work
[08:07] <Ben64> one misstep = no os
[08:07] <mikodo> I use an USB HD for backups. Should the partitions on it be owned by root or my user?
[08:07] <Ben64> mikodo: whichever you'd like
[08:07] <mikodo> Ben64 Thanks
[08:09] <garshasp> it says the grub boots off of windows
[08:10] <Beldar> garshasp, You are not gonna find anyone here suggeting you do this without at the least having a recovery disc for windows, to reload the bootloader=mbr if needed, and most will not support you without installing with a disc or usb.
[08:10] <sooley> anyone here installed linux on chromebook
[08:11] <garshasp> Beldar lets be hypothetical about this
[08:11] <Beldar> garshasp, Lets be factual.
[08:11] <garshasp> if i were to hypothetically use grub2win and edit the config file as suggested, where would i put it?
[08:11] <Ben64> hypothetically, find a friend with a blank cd
[08:13] <Beldar> garshasp, Honestly in the end we don;t want to help you clean up the possible mess you will make, and you should not set up your self to possibly need that, be responsible
[08:14] <Beldar> install ubuntu in a vm till you have the right tools
[08:15] <jahboi> jello
[08:16] <shams> hello guys, is there someone can help me setting up my ubuntu for blender using CUDA nvidia please ?
[08:19] <ikonia> shams: you asked about this yesterday and had it explained to you your first steps
[08:20] <shams> yes you did thanks, still looking for help. you asked me to make sure my card is CUDA compaitable , and it is. i have installed CUDA blender and the right nvidia driver. but still my Cycle Rendering on GPU is not working.
[08:23] <ikonia> shams: ok - so the next question is 1.) where did you get the nvidia drivers you are using from 2.) where did you get the blender package you are using from, 3.) what is the blender package full package name
[08:25] <Hecter> hi, anyone around?
[08:25] <jahboi> yee
[08:26] <ObrienDave> not round
[08:26] <Beldar> I' rotund
[08:26] <ObrienDave> I tall and skinny
[08:26] <Hecter> :/
[08:27] <Beldar> but I have a conehead
[08:27] <ObrienDave> yes, you do ;))
[08:27] <shams> ikonia: Nvidia driver from nvidia website, blender from repository since they have the latest version, 2.69 installed it using Synaptic , and CUDA also got from official site and installed both CUDA and Nvidia driver from text based terminal Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:27] <Hecter> where do i start? ive recently installed sendmail, using php mail(), im receiving headers Received-SPF: none (domain of localhost.com.ph does not designate permitted sender hosts)
[08:27] <Hecter> domain of localhost.com.ph
[08:29] <Hecter> though mails going not in spam, should i worry the "does not designate permitted host?
[08:29] <Stnbvgjt> Durhinaro cavolkadi disonanto parachino ?
[08:31] <Stnbvgjt> Capuketi danotas yesotu
[08:31] <Beldar> !it
[08:36] <Korejora> ok so ubuntu froze and died on me and now when I start the computer it doesn't boot. it just seems to have a grub commandline. or something. (you can tell I are expert by my very technical report.) what do I do ?
[08:39] <Beldar> Korejora, when you start the computer do you see grub>
[08:42] <Korejora> @beldar; yes
[08:43] <Beldar> Korejora, This is a partitioned install, not a wubi I assume, wubi is installed from windows.
[08:44] <Beldar> Korejora, if you have ubuntu in a partition try this tool, and save the bootinfo summary generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:44] <Korejora> @Beldar. it is a partitioned install alongside windows. but it's not installed from windows. i installed windows, then installed ubuntu on a separate partition, and had it install grub on that disk.
[08:45] <Beldar> Korejora, Bootrepair may fix it, but a crash to a grub> prompt is rather odd is all it might just need a fsck.
[08:49] <Korejora> @Beldar, ok so, if i understand these instructions correctly, i should get ubuntu on a USB stick (the computer doesn't have a CDdrive) and run ubuntu off that and install & run boot-repair inside that live ubuntu instance and run it ?
[08:49] <rahuldroy> Hi Everyone, I am having a lot of issues with the wifi. It detects correctly but it doesn't connect to my home wifi. when I ran dmesg command, it says deauthenticating from * by local choice (reason=3)
[08:50] <Korejora> err, redundant. install & run boot repair inside that live ubuntu instnace?
[08:51] <Beldar> Korejora, You got it, the app will run from the live usb, if this does not work a fsck the linux version of a chkdsk abstractly can be run from that usb if needed.
[08:55] <Guest3226> o.O This is the quetest I've ever seen it in here!
[08:56] <reisio> 4am, quiet time
[08:56] <Fudge> I am running unity on X0 and xfce on X1 but pulse does not start on second desktop, how can i fix it
[08:57] <rahuldroy> Hi Everyone, I am having a lot of issues with the wifi. It detects correctly but it doesn't connect to my home wifi. when I ran dmesg command, it says deauthenticating from * by local choice (reason=3). I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3
[08:57] <ikonia> snadge: ok - why did you get them from the nvidia site and not from the ubuntu repo, is ther a reason. 2.) what repo did you get blender from
[08:58] <Korejora> ok thanks for your help. I can't try it right now as I don't have a USB stick but I will get one and try this.
[08:58] <ObrienDave> come back when you do have it
[09:02] <Guest44270> dnaranjo
[09:03] <dnaranjo> #videolan
[09:08] <rahuldroy> Hi Everyone, I am having a lot of issues with the wifi. It detects correctly but it doesn't connect to my home wifi. when I ran dmesg command, it says deauthenticating from * by local choice (reason=3). I am using Ubuntu 12.04.3
[09:12] <Cletus> Hey guys. I can't get a piece of software to run on boot. I have edited init.d, startup applications (.desktop) and for the life of me I cannot get this software to run on boot. It runs fine when executed directly, but it just wont execute on boot
[09:12] <Cletus> can anyone help me get this piece of software to run?
[09:12] <ObrienDave> umm, might help if we knew what you're trying to run? just a guess, maybe
[09:13] <Cletus> ObrienDave: tor browser bundle
[09:14] <ikonia> shams: ok - why did you get them from the nvidia site and not from the ubuntu repo, is ther a reason. 2.) what repo did you get blender from
[09:14] <Fudus> select, run in terminal
[09:14] <ObrienDave> he want s autorun on boot
[09:15] <ObrienDave> *want's
[09:15] <Mongo44> I recently updated to Wine 6. It wouldn't take updates for the package originally. Yet know it does. Anyone know what's up with that?
[09:16] <Fudus> or if you like Terminal https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux
[09:17] <Cletus> Fudus: Executing it is not the problem. The command works, but it doesnt work when I try to make it run on boot with that command.
[09:18] <Fudus> Ah, didn't see that part
[09:19] <Cletus> it's cool
[09:21] <ObrienDave> sessions and startup entry? worth a shot
[09:21] <Fudus> gnome-terminal -x "insert path here" ?
[09:22] <Cletus> Fudus: didn't try that
[09:22] <Cletus> let me see
[09:22] <ObrienDave> reboot, brb
[09:23] <Fudus> or sh -c /path/here
[09:24] <fosser_josh1> i am getting error during running gnome-shell in ubuntu 13.04 http://pastebin.com/pJqcuZcu
[09:25] <fosser_josh1> can anyone help
[09:27] <itsme_> Hello everyone,  When I clicked on my Ubuntu power button on the top-right corner, a user account by the name of "J Random User" appeared on the list of users . I restarted my computer and now the user account has disappeared. Should I be worried that my computer has been compromised by someone/something, or is there a logical explanation for this?
[09:28] <buu> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186105
[09:29] <itsme_> buu: Thanks for pointing out the thread, but that thread doesn't contain any solutions for this issue
[09:29] <buu> "Its most likely dev code..."
[09:30] <itsme_> buu: So I don't need to worry about this? (I can format my whole comp if this issue involves a Virus)
[09:31] <Cletus> Fudus: didn't work
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: it most likely not a virus
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: what happens if you logout? can you see the username that dissapeared?
[09:32] <Zorky> I have a problem regarding pulsaudio. First off. I dont have any sound. the pulseaudio aparently isent running as it should. whenever i do sudo pulseaudio —check nothing shows up. sudo pulseaudio —start just tells me the program is not meant to run in admin mode. Any help would be apriciated.
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Zorky
[09:33] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: No, I can't. I can't even login to that user
[09:33] <Zorky> I forgot to mention. I need a terminal fix for this. a GUI is of no help
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: how did you add this user in the first place?
[09:33] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, whay would you run gnome-shell in a rooted terminal?
[09:34] <fosser_josh1> as i am getting old gnome interface
[09:34] <fosser_josh1> previously it was gnome-shell
[09:34] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: I never added it, that's the issue. It randomly appears and disappears
[09:34] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, That makes no sense.
[09:35] <mregg> Hi - I seem to have a problem with email delivery: procmail tells me it cannot right to the users' maildirs. Can anybody help?
[09:35] <fosser_josh1> how do i get gnome-shell den
[09:35] <itsme_> lotuspsychje:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186105
[09:35] <mregg> it cannot *write*
[09:35] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, The gnome shell is the gnome 3 desktop, you would choose it at the login gui.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: do you use ssh?
[09:36] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: No, I don't
[09:37] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: i tried on login but i get nothing after login. no gnome-shell features works.
[09:37] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: I don't use any of those remote clients (ex:- teamviewer) either
[09:37] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, What did you install to have the gnome shell, and what did you choose at the login?
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: well like buu  says last thread says dev code...
[09:38] <fosser_josh1> on pressing windows button i dont get any shell.
[09:38] <fosser_josh1>  i think i install gnome3
[09:38] <fosser_josh1> i dont remember what all the things i did.
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: if you wanna se sure of security try snort and rkhunter
[09:38] <fosser_josh1> but is was working previously and not its not working
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: how about useraccount icon, user shows up in list?
[09:40] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Please use nicks, you can tab complete them, in the terminal you would have run sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:40] <excognac> hi all. Can anybody recommend a good article about governmental spyware on linux? or I can assume I'm in safety.
[09:40] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: Nope , it just appears in the "Ubuntu power button on the top-right corner" after I login onto my current account
[09:40] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: yes i install gnome-shell
[09:40] <buu> excognac: The spyware lives in the network around the linux system.
[09:40] <fosser_josh1> and even gnome3
[09:41] <buu> excognac: So don't worry, it watches you no matter what you do.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[09:41] <itsme_>  lotuspsychje: 13.10
[09:41] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, If you were running ubuntu gnome 3 was already installed. Were you using the fallback desktop or the shell?
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: i think you should file a bug for this, or talk to #ubuntu-dev guys about it
[09:42] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Did you install a ppa for the gnome shell?
[09:42] <excognac> buu: ok fine. just my gf wanted to use my laptop, she works in a ministry, she opened her work email on one of my machines as a non-sudoer.
[09:42] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: let me check
[09:43] <itsme_>  lotuspsychje: Sure, I'll do that. I'll keep an eye on this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186105  . Just in case someone comes up with a solution
[09:43] <ANub> Hey!
[09:43] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: no ppa
[09:44] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: just apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:44] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, You looked where to confirm that?
[09:44] <ANub> I was under the impression that MBR has got to be at the very initial sectors of the disk.....Was I wrong...?
[09:44] <itsme_> Thank you lotuspsychje and buu
[09:44] <fosser_josh1> software source
[09:45] <Beldar> ANub, The mbr is the first 512mb of a HD
[09:45] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: in software and update where we add ppa
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: holdon, dont leave yet ok
[09:45] <itsme_> ok
[09:45] <itsme_> I'm here
 Please see the second post of http://mandrivausers.org/index.php?/topic/6256-tricks-for-partimage-and-mbr/
[09:46] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: I'm still here
[09:46] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, do you see this there gnome3-team/gnome3
[09:47] <Beldar> ANub, Posted 06 July 2003
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: found another here but not yet solution for it: http://ubuntuaddict.com/j-random-user-account-appeared-on-list-of-users.html
[09:47] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: there is external repository
[09:47] <Silex> hello, what is the difference between "aptitude install foo" and "apt-get install foo"? does the former install more stuffs? it seems that way here
[09:47] <Silex> (e.g maybe it installs "recommends")?
[09:47] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: all i am using is ubuntu repository
[09:48] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, The ppa shell is problematic, I have the feeling you have installed it, or have done something else, not sure what to be honest, you said you installed gnome 3 when it is there already.
 Can you elaborate this >>>"you can restore a mbr using any image file and then restore an image to a partition with an image file that may not have been the source for the mbr" ....?
[09:49] <Beldar> ANub, This is ubuntu support, how is this related to that, and if it is what is your end goal.
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> !apt | Silex
[09:49] <Beldar> restoring the mbr with an image is not reallynused anymore ANub
[09:50] <itsme_> lotuspsychje : The only reason I was worried about this issue is because I thought "J Random User Account" maybe related to "J. Random Hacker"  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Random_Hacker)
[09:50] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: does 13.04 come with gnome3 or gnome-shell?
 Ok......I was checking partimage utility and came across that thread.....seemed i could clear my doubts here...?
[09:50] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: or come with unity
[09:50] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: also found that thread, but i dont think its related...
[09:51] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, run this command and pastebin all the info. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: join #ubuntu-devel and ask there, they might know what it is...
[09:51] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Ubuntu has gnome 3 underlying unity, the shell has to be installed.
[09:52] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: sure
[09:52] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/ABQsDUtL here we go
[09:52] <Beldar> ANub, an image to load the mbr is rather old school not really used anymore.
 So.... it means that MBR has always got to be in the 1st 512 bytes of the physical disk..?
[09:53] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, running a rooted terminal is not a good idea ever.
[09:53] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: here is complete sources.list http://pastebin.com/YTwRgyya
[09:53] <Silex> lotuspsychje: mmm, thanks but it's not really helping. It just says that it "installs packages"
[09:53] <Beldar> ANub, yes
[09:53] <Silex> not what the diffs are
 Ok.....thnx
[09:54] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: yeah i was just installing something so i kept it open.
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> !aptitude | Silex
[09:54] <Silex> haha! that' exactly the problem we have
[09:54] <Silex> thanks
[09:55] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, use sudo do not root the terminal. I see no ppa's I have to just wonder what you nhave installed as you seem a little confused is all as far as what is actually there.
[09:56] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Do you have any working desktop?
[09:57] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: GNOME Shell 3.6.3.1 using apt-get install gnome-shell
[09:57] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Do you have any working desktop?
[09:57] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: yes. default gnome desktop
[09:58] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Hmm, what is the default gnome desktop, unity, is there a panel on the left of the screen?
[09:59] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: no panel on left hand side. der is applications and places at top of the screen
[09:59] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, Can you take a screen shot of it and put it in imagebin
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: can you please open /var/log and browse around in auth.log?
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: see if there's anything unusual
[10:01] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: on it
[10:01] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: http://imagebin.org/279028
[10:02] <Rory> f/join #virtualbox
[10:03] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, I believe that is the fallback desktop
[10:03] <fosser_josh1> no its normal
[10:03] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, for the fallback yes
[10:03] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: okh how to get back to gnome-shell
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: do you have uefi secureboot on?
[10:04] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, it should be gnome at the login, using the gear that is a dropdown.
[10:05] <fosser_josh1> okh
[10:05] <fosser_josh1> let me restart and try again
[10:06] <itsme_> lotuspsychje:  I've 2 log files "auth.log" and "auth.log1" . "auth.log" has around 538 lines and "auth.log1" has 1813 lines.  How do I check whether "uefi secureboot is on"?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: check if one of those lines show that Jrandom user
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: enter bios of your machine, and try disable uefi, not sure this will help
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: disable secure boot sorry
[10:08] <itsme_> lotuspsychje: No trace of the word "Jrandom " , even the word "random" doesn't exist in those files
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: check #ubuntu-devel :p
[10:10] <varunendra> itsme_, see if this can help you identifying if secure boot is enabled or not, also to disable it if it is enabled : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[10:12] <g0d> How can I secure my laptop from giving boots to unknown people? like to boot up the OS, you gotta enter an certain password.
[10:12] <g0d> how can I do that?
[10:12] <g0d> is it possible or?
[10:12] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: is i use ubuntu default i get this desktop http://imagebin.org/279029
[10:13] <fosser_josh1> and if i use gnome then i get previous desktop
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> g0d: you can ask password prompt a ubuntu login
[10:13] <g0d> lotuspsychje: you didn't understand my question.
[10:13] <varunendra> g0d, you are talking about a BIOS password
[10:13] <g0d> yes, varunendra.
[10:14] <ObrienDave> that's in your BIOS
[10:14] <ObrienDave> not the OS
[10:14] <vocx> If somebody asks "what is Unity?" What would you answer in a concise way? I'm not sure if Unity is a specific desktop environment made by Ubuntu or it's just the special tailoring  of Gnome 3 done by Ubuntu.
[10:14] <DJones> g0d: Thats something you may be able to set as a bios password, I think there is (or used to be) a way setting a password on GRUB as well (but not sure if that can still be done)
[10:14] <varunendra> g0d, you can set it in the BIOS. Be aware that it is not very difficult to bypass though ;) (this is not an Ubuntu related question by the way)
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !unity | vocx
[10:16] <Beldar> vocx, https://unity.ubuntu.com/
[10:18] <vocx> lotuspsychje, Beldar but may I ask, Unity is basically Gnome 3 with something on top?
[10:18] <ObrienDave> g0d, http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/09/grub-password-command/
[10:19] <varunendra> gone ! :)
[10:19] <jnhghy> g0d has quit (Quit: cya.)
[10:19] <ObrienDave> a bit old but should still work
[10:19] <ObrienDave> oh well
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> vocx: unity is unity, it has specific features of its own
[10:19] <ovrflw0x> i get "No bluetooth adapter found" message 13.10 here how to fix it?
[10:19] <Rory> !bluetooth | ovrflw0x
[10:19] <jnhghy> vocx: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333237/difference-between-unity-and-gnome
[10:19] <djangonoob> I have problems with ubuntu 12.04, on startup I get msgs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478271/
[10:20] <djangonoob> and it hangs
[10:20] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: any idea? what i need to do?
[10:20] <Beldar> djangonoob, Did you set up a fsck?
[10:21] <djangonoob> Beldar, what do you mean with set up?
[10:21] <Rory> djangonoob: Can you boot to a single-user shell using Recovery option from the Grub boot menu?
[10:21] <Rory> djangonoob: If you can, run: mv /var/lib/alsa/asound.state  /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.backup
[10:22] <Rory> djangonoob: and then reboot
[10:22] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, That is what you get if you choose gnome at login? Have you customized it?
[10:22] <streulma> hello, I have a Macbook Pro Retina, and I have Ubuntu 13.10. The fonts are very tiny (2880px), what is the best setting for Retina screens? Anyone experiences?
[10:22] <djangonoob> Beldar, wait after really long time I get more msgs
[10:22] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: i think i just installed gnome-shell
[10:22] <Beldar> djangonoob, You are getting a fsck, it is not part of the start anymore used to be every 30 starts.
[10:22] <djangonoob> last line * Checking battery state... [OK]
[10:23] <nullck> djangonoob, try this  shutdown -rF now   , this reboot your system and force to fsck repair
[10:23] <djangonoob> ok
[10:23] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: anyway thanks i will try to figure out
[10:23] <Rory> streulma: Someone wrote a blog post here, which includes a few things including screen resolution http://blog.echarles.net/2013/10/01/Ubuntu-13.04-On-MacbookPro-Retina
[10:23] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, You also said you installed gnome 3.
[10:23] <ovrflw0x> Rory: there're not instructions for 13.10...
[10:23] <ovrflw0x> no*
[10:23] <itsme_> lotuspsychje :  varunendra: "Secure Boot" or UEFI feature was widely implemented in 2012 and its an Intel technology. My motherboard (Gigabyte) and processor is AMD and I haven't updated my Bios since 2008
[10:24] <Rory> ovrflw0x: They're for 13.04, and they'll be the same if you have it installed. Scroll down to the section on screen resolution
[10:24] <lotuspsychje> itsme_: dont worry then, its not related to your issue
[10:24] <Rory> ovrflw0x: By which I mean, that script to change the resoltuion will also work on 13.10 if it works on 13.04
[10:24] <ovrflw0x> Rory: what 'resolution?' i'm talking about bluetooth
[10:25] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: i am not quit sure about that. as i checked the version of gnome-shell so i thought that gnome3 is also installed but i just installeed gnome-shell. i dont know weather that installed gnome3 or not
[10:25] <varunendra> ovrflw0x, are you sure you have a bluetooth adapter in the system ? Any indications that it is functional?
[10:25] <Rory> ovrflw0x: Oh sorry I thought you were the retina macbook person
[10:25] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, What was the initial install of the OS?
[10:25] <djangonoob> Rory, after booting root shell in recovery menu and mv alsa I get a msg that filesystem is readable only
[10:26] <ovrflw0x> [   10.801642] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.16
[10:26] <ovrflw0x> [   10.801672] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[10:26] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: i just installed 13.04 and then on top of that gnome-shell
[10:26] <Rory> djangonoob: Press Ctrl-D to go back to the menu, choose the fsck option
[10:27] <Rory> ovrflw0x: Can you please paste the output of the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, I wonder if you just have a grphic driver problem boot to the unity desktop and see if its working.
[10:27] <fosser_josh1> Beldar: ahhh might be graphic driver problem.
[10:28] <varunendra> ovrflw0x, please give us the pastebin link of the outputs of : "lsusb" and "usb-devices"
[10:28] <Beldar> fosser_josh1, If you have installed a proprietary like from their website it will not follow a kernel update.
[10:28] <djangonoob> Rory, it is checking now (3.3%), but hdd led is not blinking... I will wait
[10:28] <vocx> lotuspsychje, jnhghy I don want to compare "which is better", merely trying to understand if Unity is a fork of Gnome 3, or the differences are more "on top", and behind it all, it's still good ol Linux.
[10:29] <Rory> vocx: It's Linux, it uses GTK (same as Gnome does) but it uses Unity instead of Gnome-Shell
[10:29] <djangonoob> Rory, should this be so slow? even with a ssd?
[10:29] <Rory> djangonoob: You should see output at least
[10:29] <djangonoob> 3.3% still
[10:29] <Rory> OK then just wait for it
[10:29] <Rory> Or ctrl-C to cancel
[10:30] <Rory> Since I only got you to do that because it's the quickest way to mount the root fs as read-write
[10:30] <djangonoob> should I try to mv alsa after ctrl-c ?
[10:31] <Rory> djangonoob: Yes
[10:31] <djangonoob> ctrl-c just displays "^C"
[10:31] <vocx> Rory, I see. So it's just the top-level shell that it's a bit different, but the insides, the code is still C+GTK.
[10:32] <Rory> vocx: Not sure about C, large parts of the Ubuntu desktop tools are written in Python, but it uses the GTK toolkit. Why don't you ask in #ubuntu-offtopic you will get a better discussion there
[10:34] <vocx> Rory, thanks, I think it's fine with the answers I got here.
[10:35] <Rory> !desktop
[10:36] <djangonoob> Rory, sry I am too impatient today... now I get msgs but I think it should not be that slow... last line:    mountall: mount /sys/fs/fuse/connections [1742] killed by ALRM signal
[10:36] <djangonoob> last line since 2 min
[10:37] <Rory> djangonoob: I think you should wait for the fsck to complete, especially if it's taking a while
[10:38] <djangonoob> Rory, ok. I will do a fsck again
[10:40] <Rory> djangonoob: again? I thought it was running, and you saw nothing for 2 mins?
[10:40] <Rory> djangonoob: What is on your screen right now?
[10:41] <djangonoob> Rory, no I pressed ctrl-c after fsck, but this was running so long
[10:42] <djangonoob> Rory, no I am running again fsck (3.3% again)
[10:42] <djangonoob> now
[10:42] <djangonoob> this time I will wait longer
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> djangonoob: do it over night :)
[10:47] <Han> ever since my upgrade to saucy I can print no more. Also I can't admin cups with the webinterface, even though I'm member of lpadmin group (and relogged in)
[10:48] <Han> What am I missing?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Han: which release did you upgrade from and how did you upgrade?
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Han: what make and model printer?
[10:54] <Han> never mind...
[10:56] <alket> Hi, I am trying to save a file in nano editor, what i need is just to override a file but it says M-D Dos format etc. What does M mean is it a key on keyboard ?
[10:56] <Rory> alket: What does it say precisely?
[10:57] <alket> Rory:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478398/
[10:57] <AlanBell> alket: M is meta, or the ctrl key
[10:57] <AlanBell> however you don't need to press that
[10:57] <AlanBell> alket: just hit return
[10:57] <Rory> AlanBell: To save in Nano just to Ctrl-O, enter a filename then press Enter
[10:58] <AlanBell> it is giving you the opportunity to change the filename
[10:58] <Rory> AlanBell: To quit nano do Ctrl-X - if you have unsaved changes it will ask for a filename
[10:58] <alket> AlanBell , Rory thank you very much
[10:58] <emillos91> Hello is there a kind person who want to help me setting up openvpn on my ubuntu 13.10 server ?
[11:00] <Wiz_KeeD> My fellow ubuntu brethren, it seems that no matter how much I wish to avoid the Nvidia Optimus technology crap..90% of the notebooks have it.Is using bumblebee the only options for this to work and such a big issue in linux?
[11:01] <kemon> emillos91: Why openvpn? Tryed pptpd?
[11:02] <kemon> emillos91: Why PPTPD you can use windows vpn to connect. No extra client
[11:02] <kemon> with*
[11:02] <emillos91> Im confused now. i want to use openvpn for samba share to work from remote computer.
[11:03] <kemon> PPTPD is also VPN. With openvpn you need to set up bridge network etc I think
[11:04] <maity> бу % ))
[11:05] <Laban> The limited experience I have with PPTP is that it NAT's everything and routing is pain. But it might just be an old/missconfigured setup.
[11:07] <emillos91> which is best for samba for remote computer (not on the same network) pptp or openvpn?
[11:09] <emillos91> which is best for samba for remote computer (not on the same network) pptp or openvpn?
[11:09] <umtsblabla> hey :-)
[11:10] <marco_> hi all
[11:11] <umtsblabla> hi
[11:11] <maity> привет )
[11:11] <marco_> how are you ? PRIVET !
[11:11] <kemon> emillos91: Im using pptp, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPTPServer
[11:11] <umtsblabla> is there somebody who can help me to fix my update problem ?
[11:11] <marco_> hey, please i need a room chat only for chatting , loosing time
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !ru|maity,
[11:11] <cfhowlett> !ot|marco_,
[11:12] <umtsblabla> can i post the link here from my question in the ubuntu forum ?
[11:13] <emillos91> kemon: okay that looks much more simple to setup. but is it secure enough?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> umtsblabla, yes.
[11:13] <umtsblabla> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/system-startet-nach-aktualisierung-nicht-mehr-2/#preview
[11:15] <kemon> emillos91: Don't know :p Im using a port knock rule in iptables.
[11:16]  * man0riaX ist away (offline. bye bye.)
[11:18] <k1l_> !away > man0riaX
[11:19] <stevenm> Is there any website I can use to lookup appropriate kernel modules/drivers needed for my hardware? I want to see if a 4g dongle is supported on linux in general.
[11:19] <man0riaX> k1l_: yap, working on it. :)
[11:19] <Rory> stevenm: What 4g dongle is it? Can you pastebin the command "lspci -v"
[11:19] <Rory> !paste | stevenm
[11:20] <stevenm> Rory, it's usb - lsusb shows 1bbb:0195 as the vendor/product id's
[11:20] <varunendra> umtsblabla, you said "update problem", but your link shows a post related to "mounting problem"
[11:22] <varunendra> stevenm, is the modem not recognized? Which version of Ubuntu you are using?
[11:22] <stevenm> varunendra, 12.04 - but i'm not interested in getting it working on this pc - just interested on if it *can* be supportable on linux in general
[11:22] <stevenm> i.e. where you'd go to research that
[11:22] <Rory> stevenm: I just google it, usually
[11:22] <stevenm> Rory, hasn't helped really
[11:24] <quangminh> hello world
[11:24] <quangminh> first time join in irc chat
[11:24] <varunendra> stevenm, I don't know about a website that lists it, although I'm sure there is at least one. But you can look into /usr/share/usb_modeswitch/configPack.tar.gz file to see if the VID:PID file exists in it. If not, it is not 'natively' supported, but it can be made to work (generally)
[11:24] <quangminh> anybody hear me ?
[11:24] <berga> not me
[11:24] <cfhowlett> quangminh, hear?  no.  see?  yes.
[11:24] <berga> jk
[11:25] <varunendra> quangminh, yes we can 'see' you :D
[11:25] <stevenm> varunendra, oh i already know it's 1bbb:f000 unswitched and usb_modeswitch turns it into 1bbb:0195 - but the question isn't about the switcher, it's about if it has drivers or not
[11:25] <stevenm> that 1bbb:f000 is used by many unswitched mode dongles - not specifcally this one... but the 1bbb:0195 is unique to this 4g dongle make/model
[11:26] <emillos91> :kemon :) haha im trying right now. thanks for help
[11:26] <shams> I am struggling for a week now, trying my blender to work with CUDA GPU Cyclea Rendering, did so many fresh installation, still no luck. is someone out there who can help please.
[11:27] <varunendra> stevenm, these modems don't need too many different drivers. Almost all of them work with the native "option" driver. If that doesn't support it, you can either force bind it or report at (forgot the site) to request that ID be added in next updates.
[11:27] <cfhowlett> shams, best to ask the blender people for support.  that new rendering engine is their baby and their problem
[11:27] <kemon> emillos91: Np :) It is an easy setup :)
[11:27] <shams> ok, thanks
[11:28] <stevenm> varunendra, actually i think this one shows up as a wired ethernet adapter called usb0
[11:28] <cfhowlett> shams, also see #ubuntustudio
[11:29] <shams> thanks, i am new to ubuntu as well as on irc chat hahaha, thank you i will check.
[11:29] <emillos91> :kemon yes i think so :)
[11:30] <varunendra> stevenm, Oh, I don't have much experience with these then. Only seen 2-3 times so far (probably sierra wireless devices), not sure how they are handled.
[11:30] <stevenm> varunendra, well it seems to have stuck me on a 192.168.1.0/24 and on .1 is a web configuration for the dongle itself - neat :)
[11:31] <varunendra> neat indeed, stevenm ;)
[11:33] <emillos91> :kemon When trying to connect to my vpn from windows machine i get error 619 :S
[11:34] <e-dard> Hi, I'm tying to understand what Upstart does when I tell it to reload my service. Am I right in thinking it sends SIGHUP signal to process, then at some point kills the process, before starting it again?
[11:34] <Rory> Is there a straightforward way to disable middle-click-to-paste in 13.10? It's only a matter of time before I paste something regrettable in a public channel
[11:34] <ObrienDave> Rory, don't type anything regrettable ;))
[11:35] <djangonoob> Rory, after fsck and mv alsa I get a too less space error
[11:35] <Rory> ObrienDave: Well come on, private keys, passwords, multi-line pastes
[11:35] <Rory> djangonoob: "too less space" is what it says?
[11:35] <ObrienDave> jk
[11:35] <e-dard> Is this the best channel to ask about upstart, or is #Linux better?
[11:35] <Rory> !upstart | e-dard not sure if this will help at all
[11:35] <cfhowlett> e-dard, maybe not the best, but go ahead
[11:35] <reisio> Rory: autocutsel?
[11:35] <Rory> reisio: It's OK I think I've found a hack
[11:36] <e-dard> I already asked :) "I'm tying to understand what Upstart does when I tell it to reload my service. Am I right in thinking it sends SIGHUP signal to process, then at some point kills the process, before starting it again?"
[11:36] <reisio> Rory: what's that?
[11:36] <djangonoob> Rory, should I remove asound.state?
[11:36] <djangonoob> Rory, I don't know why there is no space
[11:36] <Rory> reisio: while sleep 0.5; do echo -n | xsel -n -i; done
[11:37] <reisio> heh
[11:37] <Rory> djangonoob: You can remove it
[11:38] <Rory> djangonoob: But your space issue is an urgent one, and you should delete some files. it's probably what's causing your problems
[11:38] <djangonoob> Rory, where should I look first if I could remove something?
[11:39] <emillos91> afk
[11:39] <kemon> emillos91: sudo service pptpd restart
[11:40] <kemon> emillos91: local machine -> telnet remoteip 1723
[11:41] <Rory> djangonoob: I'd recommend starting with "apt-get clean" to remove cached package downloads
[11:41] <Rory> djangonoob: Once you can boot, use the included Disk Usage Analyser to drill down and see what of your personal files are taking up the most space
[11:42] <theadmin> djangonoob: (or, on command-line, run "ncdu", which is a very similar tool but with terminal output)
[11:47] <suyash1629> hi everyone, i had backuped my android source codes into my external HDD which has NTFS file system. today after installing the required packages for building android source code, i restored my source code but  now while performing repo sync i get following errors: fatal: unable to start /home/xist/android/system/.repo/repo/main.py    fatal: [Errno 13] Permission denied, is there anyway to solve this problem/
[11:48] <cfhowlett> suyash1629, this isn't the android channel?
[11:48] <theadmin> suyash1629: You need to make the files executable: sudo chown -R xist:xist /home/xist/android && chmod -R +x /home/xist/android
[11:48] <AlanBell> suyash1629: perhaps you need an android support channel?
[11:48] <theadmin> cfhowlett: This is a UNIX permission issue, doesn't have much to do with Android
[11:48] <bazhang> #android suyash1629
[11:48] <AlanBell> and/or make the permissions work
[11:49] <suyash1629> this was permission denied problem so i asked it here on ubuntu channel..
[11:49] <theadmin> suyash1629: Is of okay, run the command I gave, should fix it
[11:49] <cfhowlett> theadmin, thanks.  I'm going to go back to lurking now  and wait for an opportunity to contribute where I actually know what I'm talking about.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:50] <AlanBell> theadmin: is making the whole android tree executable a great idea/
[11:50] <theadmin> AlanBell: Not a big deal. Stuff that needs to be executable will be, stuff that doesn't won't really care (making a jpg executable won't hurt anyone, would it?)
[11:51] <djangonoob> is this a normal that installing ncdu, or  reading packet list takes about 30 sec for 1% in restoring mode?
[11:51] <djangonoob> or is this a full disk issue?
[11:51] <AlanBell> theadmin: I guess not, in context it probably is fine
[11:51] <theadmin> djangonoob: Could be a full disk problem yeah
[11:52] <djangonoob> how to sort ls -l by size?
[11:53] <djangonoob> or get the biggest files
[11:54] <AlanBell> djangonoob: ls -lS  (loads of other flags to read about in man ls)
[11:54] <djangonoob> thx
[11:54] <suyash1629> theadmin: that problem is gone now. the source codes were working well before, but its giving errors now, i think i should ask in android channel..
[11:54] <theadmin> suyash1629: Maybe, yeah
[11:55] <AlanBell> djangonoob: ls -lhS | head   <- also good
[11:56] <vood> Hello, does developer.ubuntu.com/myapps publishing work for OpenSource software?
[11:57] <theadmin> vood: I think they're currently working on a new system for FOSS software. As far as I'm aware, you *can* submit it there, as long as you made it.
 I already tried to submit my app throw it, but despite the fact that I filled all fields in app profile, my application still appear in "Draft" state and I can not find how to fix it or submit to the review
[12:01] <theadmin> vood: Did you actually upload the tarball with the app, too?
[12:02] <theadmin> vood: Anyway, I think this discussion is more suitable for #ubuntu-devel , but generally if you uploaded it all there should be a "Submit for review" button on the right of the wobsite.
[12:02] <the_drow> Hi I can't install libpq-dev. Can someone take a look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478622/
[12:03] <theadmin> the_drow: You seem to have a third-party repository providing libpq5
[12:03] <theadmin> the_drow: Which it doesn't like
[12:03] <the_drow> I know. What do I do?
[12:04] <theadmin> the_drow: Remove that repository and run apt-get update, then try again.
[12:04] <ucenik> hi, just installed xirc, is this ubuntu help channel?
[12:04] <cfhowlett> ucenik, it is.  greetings
[12:04] <ucenik> hi
[12:04] <the_drow> Well purging helps... But that's not optimal.
[12:04] <ucenik> live long and prosper :D
[12:04] <the_drow> Can I build it from source?
[12:05] <ucenik> on one old laptop i have installed linux mint, that i want to switch to ubuntu 12.04. usb and cd rom are fail, cant load minimal install cd.
[12:05] <ucenik> how can i install ubuntu on it?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> ucenik, do a search for diskless install ubuntu .. there's at least one method
[12:06] <cfhowlett> !install
[12:08] <ucenik> sorry. i got spam from friend on facebook
[12:09] <ucenik> well, usb and cd installs are off,  but i can boot into linux mint and winxp. can you give any hint so that i dont need to reread too much stuff
[12:09] <cfhowlett> ucenik, no.  do your research and don't be lazy.  see the links above.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !install
[12:10] <cfhowlett> :~
[12:11] <emillos91> :kemon why should i telnet to my server?
[12:11] <ucenik> i did several up and down on stairs because of it, im not lazy :p , and i read many articles about this, i even  installed xubuntu  on one 15 years old laptop, few years ago
[12:11] <ucenik> just wanted a hint
[12:13] <cfhowlett> ucenik, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD
[12:13] <audun> how can I do redirection of output without starting a new line? I want to do >> but have it appended to the existing line
[12:13] <kemon> emillos91: to see it can connect. Got a router between them?
[12:13] <ucenik> and without usb? usb stick and usb cd rom doesnt work
[12:13] <cfhowlett> ucenik, clearly you're not bothering to read the link I sent
[12:14] <djangonoob> after restart, auto login is not working and I have to do startx myself. I can see desktop icons/files but nothing else. also ctrl-alt-f1 is not working.
[12:14] <prakash> i am not able to find qt-sdk in ubuntu 12.04 software center. What should i do to make it visible?
[12:14] <Walex2> prakash: '-dev' perhaps?
[12:15] <emillos91> How do i install openvpn 2.2 instead of 2.3 in ubuntu server 13.10 ?
[12:15] <Walex2> prakash: 'apt-cache search ....' always helps
[12:16] <djangonoob> dmesg shows: init udev-fallback-graphics/plymouth-splash/lightdm/failsafe-x main process terminated with status 1
[12:16] <prakash> Walex2: Please tell where i can run this command to search
[12:17] <Walex2> prakash: command line...
[12:18] <ucenik> cfhowlett, im not your usual newbie asking silly questions, i usually read a lot about stuff i need and  im asking advanced ubuntu question
[12:18] <ucenik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/NetbootInstallFromInternet
[12:18] <emillos91> Help.. How do I install openvpn 2.2 instead of 2.3 in ubuntu server 13.10 ?
[12:18] <ucenik> this was only thing you could have give me
[12:18] <ucenik> and this was pointless discussion, but tnx for original link
[12:18] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[12:19] <cfhowlett> to install from mint
[12:19] <prakash> Walex2:i am still not able to find it
[12:20] <Walex2> prakash: prakash it must be there, or else you don't have the 'apt' package.
[12:20] <emillos91> Isn't there anybody who want to help me? :(
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !patience|emillos91,
[12:21] <Walex2> prakash: 'apt-cache search qt sdk' does report something for me.
[12:22] <Walex2> prakash: it may be in one of the additional repos, like 'universe' and 'multiverse'
[12:22] <kemon> emillos91: Do you have a router between the remote computer and the server?
[12:22] <Walex2> prakash: try also searching in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ to see in which archive it is
[12:23] <emillos91> Kemon: Yes i have. My server is located in france and im located in denmark
[12:24] <kemon> emillos91: Did you open port 1723?
[12:25] <emillos91> Kemon: does the pptpd use port 1723?
[12:25] <kemon> emillos91: yes
[12:25] <prakash> Walex2: it is showing the package in terminal but it is not in the software center
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:26] <emillos91> kemon: how do i open the port ?
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> emillos91: http://compnetworking.about.com/od/vpn/l/aa030103a.htm
[12:26] <prakash> Walex2: i can see the package name in the terminal but it is not present on the software center
[12:26] <ActionPa1snip> emillos91: yes, I found out using the web. I had no idea either but I researched....
[12:27] <kemon> emillos91: Connect to the router in france and open it?
[12:28] <emillos91> kemon: my server is hosted on france so I have not access to that router. but maybe it's my firewall in utuntubut how do i open the ports?
[12:29] <emillos91> kemon: i mean ubuntu
[12:30] <nimo> Having problem getting GRUB2 to work with a mdraid (RAID1) + LVM2 setup working. OS is Ubuntu 12.04.03. I can boot the system with the SuperGrub2-disc, but whatever I do I can't get GRUB2 to boot without help from a CD. The install command latest tried is: grub-install --recheck --boot-directory=/boot --modules="configfile linux crypto search_fs_uuid lvm mdraid1x raid normal" /dev/sda - after reboot it results in GRUB-shell. Anyone who 
[12:31] <kemon> emillos91: you got ssh connection to the server? SSH tunnel with putty/linux. Linux ssh remoteserver -L 1234:routerip:80, open web browser. locate to 127.0.0.1:1234
[12:31] <Silex> hi, in 12.04 when I install ia32-libs it creates /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.0.9.8 and /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 but NOT /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libssl.so
[12:31] <Silex> why? I can not build any apps with -m32 taht just links with -lssl
[12:31] <Silex> and basically most ./configure script do that
[12:32] <emillos91> kemon: yes i have ssh to my server okay i will try taht
[12:32] <Ben64> Silex: http://askubuntu.com/questions/107230/what-happened-to-the-ia32-libs-package
[12:34] <emillos91> kemon: The program 'linux' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[12:34] <emillos91> apt-get install user-mode-linux
[12:35] <kemon> emillos91: ssh remoteserver -L 1234:routerip:80
[12:35] <emillos91> kemon: i don't know what you mean with that
[12:35] <Silex> Ben64: so, I should remove ia32-libs (it is present in my version of 12.04) and install the :i386 versions instead?
[12:35] <Silex> problem is, many :i386 versions are not friendly, they want to uninstall everything
[12:35] <Silex> e.g, libssl-dev:i386, libmysqlclient-dev:i386
[12:36] <Silex> they want to uninstall gcc and gcc-multilib etc
[12:36] <Ben64> then compile stuff for 64 bit?
[12:36] <kemon> emillos91: Using windows or linux desktop?
[12:36] <emillos91> kemon: now i have 2 ssh connections to my server
[12:37] <Silex> Ben64: I can't compile for 64 bits, I need to build in 32 bits but I need the box to be 64 bits
[12:37] <emillos91> kemon: im using windows desktop and my server is ubuntu 13.10 server
[12:37] <Silex> (yes, it sucks)
[12:37] <Ben64> Silex: that doesn't make any sense
[12:37] <Ben64> if you need to compile 32 bit, then the computer can be as well
[12:37] <kemon> emillos91: Adn your ssh client?
[12:37] <emillos91> kemon: im using putty from windows
[12:38] <Silex> Ben64: the TL;DR bottom line is: we need 64 bit os to get around the 16 TB filesystem limitation, but our software would take months to port to 64 bits
[12:38] <Silex> compiling with -m32 is the simplest way
[12:39] <Silex> if you have suggestion they are welcome, but I think we are stuck with find a -m32 way
[12:39] <Silex> finding*
[12:39] <kemon> emillos91: Okei. Open putty, type your server adresse. THen locate to Connection -> SSH -> Tunnels: Sourceport: 1234, Destination: LocalRouterIPInFrance:80, add, open. Web browser: 127.0.0.1:1234
[12:40] <Ben64> Silex: you'll have to figure out a solution
[12:40] <Ben64> kemon: why are you doing all that?
[12:40] <Silex> Ben64: so, can you answer my question about the ia32-libs removal?
[12:41] <kemon> Ben64: To tunnel trafic from Denmark to France, so he can access the router :)
[12:41] <Ben64> Silex: its not quite all the way gone yet in 12.04
[12:41] <emillos91> kemon: why should i make this to 127.0.0.1:1234? this is the localhost
[12:41] <Ben64> kemon: is it residential?
[12:42] <Ben64> emillos91: this "server" you have in france, describe it
[12:42] <kemon> emillos91: because putty will tunnel trafic from 127.0.0.1:1234 to your ubuntu server, then to your router in france :P
[12:43] <Silex> Ben64: alright, thanks
[12:44] <pdiddy_> its a pr0n box in frasnce
[12:44] <emillos91> Kemon: how is the exact command I cant get it to work :/
[12:44] <emillos91> kemon: my server is dedicated server located in france and its hosted by ovh/kimsufi
[12:46] <kemon> emillos91: oh :O Do you have any controlpanel with some kind of firewall?
[12:46] <emillos91> kemon: yes i have the power to install whatever i want.
[12:47] <emillos91> kemon: i have control panel from ovh
[12:47] <kemon> emillos91: did you telnet it? cmd: telnet ip 1723
[12:47] <BossOfTheInterne> pdiddy_ can I access to ur pr0n box?
[12:48] <emillos91> kemon: why should i telnet to it when i can use the more secure ssh?
[12:48] <pdiddy_> My pr0n box is on emillos91's server in france
[12:48] <Ben64> pdiddy_: stop
[12:49] <k1l_> pdiddy_ and BossOfTheInterne please drop that topic in here and stick to ubuntu support. thanks
[12:49] <kemon> emillos91: telnet connects to the port so you can see if it's open
[12:50] <emillos91> kemon: i have not telnet on my server
[12:54] <kristal> Anyone have an idea why kubuntu is keeping my hard drive constantly busy, it's killing the poor thing
[12:54] <grimeton> kristal: swap
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !swap
[12:54] <kristal> grimeton: 0 usage, it's a kthread thing
[12:54] <emillos91> kemon: p | grep 1723
[12:54] <emillos91> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:1723            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      32387/pptpd
[12:54] <Ben64> why guess at the issue? kristal, use iotop and find out whats using it
[12:55] <grimeton> kristal: no idea
[12:56] <kemon> emillos91: sudo nmap -Pn serverip
[12:56] <kristal> Ben64: iotop says kworker is using a constant 14% of IO
[12:57] <emillos91> kemon: what does that command do?
[12:57] <kemon> emillos91: did you create a user in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets?
[12:57] <kristal> My hard drive is rattling around from such heavy random seeking... but iotop says 0Bs
[12:57] <kemon> emillos91: just scan for open ports on the server
[12:57] <emillos91> kemon: yes i did :)
[12:57] <Ben64> kristal: what about that 14%
[12:58] <Ben64> kristal: and you can order iotop by write or read using the arrow keys
[12:58] <emillos91> kemon: localip 192.168.0.1 <--- does this have to be private ip or the actual servers ip?
[12:58] <emillos91> remoteip 192.168.0.100-200
[12:58] <kemon> emillos91: <username>   pptpd   <password>   *
[12:59] <kemon> emillos91: server ip
[12:59] <Guest79687> hi
[12:59] <Rory> Guest79687: Hello
[13:00] <kristal> Ben64: 2 kworkers, both using 0-15% IO, but 0 read or write... it makes no sense and my drive is rattling aroudn from constant random seeking
[13:00] <Rory> kristal: Are you on KDE? You could try disabling Semantic Desktop
[13:01] <Ben64> kristal: well that should give you something to google, i'm busy now or i'd do it
[13:02] <emillos91> kemon: i have corrected that to my server ip but still not working
[13:02] <davividal> how can I execute another command (say stat) as another group?
[13:02] <davividal> I don't care about the user, just the group
[13:02] <theadmin> davividal: You can't really do that, groups don't run commands
[13:03] <theadmin> davividal: You need to run it as any user that's in that group
[13:03] <ActionPa1snip> deavidsedice: su name -c 'commands here'
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> deavidsedice: users run commands, not groups
[13:05] <davividal> theadmin: yeah. But I have nginx and php-fpm running as www-data:developers, but www-data doesn't belong to developers group.
[13:05] <djangonoob> after restart, auto login is not working and I have to do startx myself. I can see desktop icons/files but nothing else. also ctrl-alt-f1 is not working.
[13:05] <djangonoob> dmesg shows: init udev-fallback-graphics/plymouth-splash/lightdm/failsafe-x main process terminated with status 1
[13:05] <davividal> I need to make sure that the developers perms I've set are working
[13:05] <theadmin> davividal: Then run it as a user who is in the "developers" group.
[13:06] <davividal> theadmin: and what's the point in set only the group of the daemon?
[13:06] <djangonoob> is this a graphics driver issue?
[13:07] <davividal> djangonoob: anything else into ~/.xsession-errors ?
[13:11] <djangonoob> davividal,  puh... there is a lot. file not found. no space left error again.... I will try something
[13:11] <Ben64> djangonoob: startx is not the correct way to start a gui in ubuntu
[13:12] <djangonoob> oh, and what is the correct way?
[13:12] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[13:13] <davividal> djangonoob: .xsession-errors is a good place to start :)
[13:14] <djangonoob> davividal, can I delete the file and reboot to only see actual errors?
[13:14] <Ben64> yes
[13:15] <Ben64> if you're out of space though, that could explain some problems
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> My fellow ubuntu brethren, it seems that no matter how much I wish to avoid the Nvidia Optimus technology crap..90% of the notebooks have it.Is using bumblebee the only options for this to work and such a big issue in linux?
[13:16] <djangonoob> but I removed a lot (also 2 gb old kernels)
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> any advice is greatly appreciated
[13:16] <Wiz_KeeD> :D
[13:16] <davividal> djangonoob: .xsession-errors is a good place to start :)
[13:17] <davividal> djangonoob: also: df -h
[13:19] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: from what i hear, newer version of xorg, xrandr, and nvidia handle it much better and automatically, no bumblebee needed
[13:19] <djangonoob> with sudo service lightdm start it looks normal again, but why do I have to start it on my own?
[13:19] <davividal> Wiz_KeeD: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/09/nvidia-seeks-peace-with-linux-pledges-help-on-open-source-driver/
[13:20] <davividal> djangonoob: maybe you were facing low disk space issues and had to manually start X. Probably after a reboot it should work fine.
[13:21] <davividal> djangonoob: if after a reboot you are still facing problems, pastebin your .xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:22] <davividal> djangonoob: after a second thought: just the /var/log/Xorg.0.log should do. ~/.xsession-errors won't prevent lightdm from start.
[13:22] <kristal> Anyone know why process jbd2(ext4?) is constantly busy? Is it a sort of index/defrag?
[13:23] <djangonoob> davividal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478934/
[13:27] <djangonoob> davividal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478919/  xsession-errors with warnings
[13:33] <alexa> I've got two PCs. One of them won't start now. First I thought it's problem in graphic card, but it's not. Maybe a motherboard. Anyway, what would happen if I put the hard disk out, and put it into working PC? Would any of my data corrupt then?
[13:34] <kristal> alexa: it should be fine
[13:35] <BluesKaj> alexa. your data will be ok , but your hardware  drivers might be different if the pcs are not exactly the same
[13:36] <omsk> hello there, I get following error when I try to play an internet radio on rhythmbox: "Required plugin could not be found- Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: text/html decoder" ..where can I find this plugin?
[13:37] <davividal> djangonoob: your .xsession-errors looks ok.
[13:37] <davividal> djangonoob: I assume that you rebooted and your lightdm didn't start, right?
[13:37] <omsk> I seem to have found a forum help, checking now
[13:37] <davividal> djangonoob: if you service lightdm restart , does it works?
[13:38] <djangonoob> davividal, and also it should auto login
[13:38] <djangonoob> davividal, after login and starting lightdm service it seems to work
[13:38] <davividal> djangonoob: what is not working? lightdm or autologin?
[13:40] <ph8_>  /j ##linuxhelp
[13:40] <ph8_> lol rofl
[13:40] <qwebirc2633> a
[13:41] <djangonoob> davividal, first I was trying to start gui with startx after manual login but this displayed desktop with icons only
[13:42] <Aktron> Hello. I have a problem regarding ubuntu 13.04, wifi and .p12 certificate. So far I found this channel as the main place where can I ask for help. Can I continue here?
[13:42] <stefg> !ask
[13:42] <Pici> Aktron: Sure, this is the official support channel after all ;)
[13:42] <djangonoob> the time all was working auto login was working. now I have to login and start lightdm manager myself.
[13:43] <philinux> djangonoob;~ have you tried reinstalling lightdm
[13:43] <Aktron> Pici: I am in the European Parliament and they have 2 wifi networks - one is down and we have to use the second one. I was given .p12 certificate, I extracted it, got 3 .cer certificates, but so far I have no idea how to use these in order to connect to the network. Which one should I use for the secured network? They want also name and password and tech support said there is no name and password needed. Thanks.
[13:44] <Aktron> (they = the network login)
[13:44] <philinux> djangonoob;~ sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm
[13:45] <djangonoob> philinux, reinstalled. same issue
[13:46] <philinux> djangonoob;~ try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[13:47] <philinux> djangonoob;~ more help here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[13:48] <varunendra> Aktron, see if this post can help : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12797393
[13:50] <Aktron> varunendra: Yep, pretty much like this. However the question is - they gave me .p12 certificate and when I try to import it to the system it springs out 3 different .cer certificates. Do you have any idea what this can mean and how to solve it?
[13:51] <djangonoob> philinux, again no auto login and no autostart lightdm
[13:52] <varunendra> Aktron, I personally have zero experience with these kind of secured networks and certificate files. But how have you imported it? And what are the full names of the files?
[13:54] <Jobarte_Skuld> hi guys
[13:54] <Jobarte_Skuld> is possible to organize apt-get display equal yum display?
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Aktron. is there anyway of connecting without the certificates , or was there on the other network?
[13:55] <lalala_oops> i wanna install the ubuntu login enterface.what package should i download?
[13:55] <philinux> djangonoob;~ give gdm a whirl as a last resort reinstall I would
[13:55] <alexa> I've got two PCs. One of them won't start now. First I thought it's problem in graphic card, but it's not. Maybe a motherboard. Anyway, what would happen if I put the hard disk out, and put it into working PC? Would any of my data corrupt then?
[13:59] <Calle> hi guys! listen. i have an old ubuntu partition on a partition on my hdd. i have only w7 bootloader right now, and wishes to keep it. however, i hope i could use a recent ubuntu livecd to somehow enter a specific grub parameter at startup, making it boot into my specificed /dev/sdaX partition. is this possible? i can't find the right procedure through google..
[14:01] <BluesKaj> Calle. try boot-repair , it works for me and I have a similar setup to yours
[14:02] <Aktron> BluesKaj: I tried all of them, no success. I have no information what username and password should I use. According to the tech support none, but the form (network settings) still requires it
[14:02] <Aktron> and I also tried to google the solution but so far I did not get any page that would be conclusive
[14:03] <Calle> thanks BluesKaj! however, doesn't this utility restore grub2? i sort of just want to boot to this old ubuntu partition at one time only, and not touch the current w7 bootloader :\
[14:03] <BluesKaj> Aktron. time to speak with the IT admin ppl  about your situation
[14:03] <Aktron> ok
[14:03] <xangua> !info lightdm | lalala_oops
[14:03] <omsk> hello there, I get following error when I try to play an internet radio on rhythmbox: "Required plugin could not be found- Python (v2.7) requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: text/html decoder" ..where can I find this plugin?
[14:04] <Aktron> btw. in the network manager, I am pretty much experiencing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/291242 despite a fact that I have 13.04
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Calle. the W7 bootloader will be integrated into grub , that's the only methos I can think of , unless you just want to reteieve data from the ubuntu partition , then install extfsd on windows top access the ubuntu data
[14:05] <philinux> Calle;~ you could use easybcd on w7
[14:05] <BluesKaj> top=to
[14:06] <philinux> Calle;~ if grub was installed to the old partition
[14:06] <philinux> Calle;~ My laptop has win 7 with easybcd and this ubuntu had it's grub installed to sda5
[14:07] <BluesKaj> philinux. that may be the case if he installed W7 after ubuntu was
[14:07] <Calle> really big thanks, both of you philinux & BluesKaj, really great input on this. as I reckon now, it's really not worth trying to get a "one time only" boot from ubuntu using a command line entry from e.g. ubuntu live cd.
[14:07] <Calle> i'm currently lookin' at a webpage for something caled subergrubdisk (www.supergrubdisk.org), thinkin' this could be another possible solution.
[14:08] <shams> hey guys how to find a channel i was talking into, i lost when i reboot it was something like blenderstudio i am not sure.
[14:08] <Calle> not really sure though, trying to figure out if i could make a bootable usb stick with this utility using Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe => maybe!
[14:08] <varunendra> Aktron, if it is not an emergency need, I suggest you post a thread at Ubuntu Forums (under Networking section) and wait for answers (or PM me, my user ID is same there). You should also post the result of wireless_script there for a detailed info of your setup : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[14:08] <BluesKaj> bot-repair works better than super grub disk , it also much easier to use , Calle
[14:09] <Calle> aight! i'll take your word for it. i'll try it right away. what's my best approach? trying to get it into a single usb stick or use the usb stick that i've used put ubuntu 13.10 x64 on, and use apt-get and respit~ and get it in live enviroment?
[14:09] <Calle> the latter, i suppose..
[14:12] <Nodgic> I want to try Ubuntu but I was wondering, if I dont like it, is it easy to remove?
[14:12] <philinux> Calle;~ see this http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[14:12] <Nodgic> You need to remove the bootloader etc.?
[14:12] <xangua> Nodgic: you can try it on a live dvd/usb
[14:12] <Nodgic> ah
[14:13] <notrev> Nodgic, if you just want to try, there's no need to install it
[14:13] <notrev> as xangua said
[14:13] <Nodgic> alright, cool
[14:13] <Nodgic> I can just put it on a usb drive and boot from it?
[14:13] <notrev> yep
[14:13] <Nodgic> aha
[14:14] <varunendra> Nodgic, removing the Ubuntu partition is as easy as formatting the partition, but restoring the boot loader may require some work if using MBR, not GPT.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Calle. boot repair should work on any media you choose
[14:14] <Nodgic> Yeah I dont know much about that
[14:15] <Nodgic> Ill try the live version first
[14:15] <Calle> guys, i just noticed that boot-repair can be put on usb media through uui, so i'll flip it right away.
[14:15] <varunendra> Nodgic, pros & cons of full vs live install : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2188696&page=2&p=12857885#post12857885
[14:15] <Nodgic> ok
[14:15] <Nodgic> ill read that
[14:19] <philinux> Calle;~ it's free for home use I shoulld say
[14:20] <Calle> really big thanks, both of you; community support has once again proven itself! =>
[14:22]  * man0riaX ist away (offline. bye bye.)
[14:24] <specky> hello
[14:24] <xangua1> !away > man0riaX
[14:24] <specky> hello any one here>
[14:24] <specky> ??
[14:24] <specky> hello
[14:25] <specky> any one heree?
[14:25] <specky> help me
[14:25] <specky> which is a best icon theme for linux ubuntu?
[14:25] <specky> ??
[14:25] <specky> ??/
[14:25] <specky> help?
[14:25] <lalala_oops> xangua1:  lightdm is irrelevant
[14:26] <specky> lalala_oops,  help me
[14:26] <specky> lalala_oops,  which is the best icon theme for ubuntu?
[14:26] <lalala_oops> specky: in what?
[14:26] <lalala_oops> specky: ambiance
[14:27] <specky> lalala_oops, but i dont like this default theme
[14:27] <specky> lalala_oops,  you suggest some other
[14:28] <specky> lalala_oops,  are u there?
[14:28] <lalala_oops> specky: i don't no, i can't think of something better
[14:29] <specky> lalala_oops, Alright!
[14:29] <specky> lalala_oops,  thank you
[14:30] <specky> AcidRain2012,  hello
[14:30] <specky> hellopat,  hello
[14:30] <specky> hellopat, which is the best theme for ubuntu?
[14:30] <vanishing> !best
[14:31] <specky> ubottu, help me
[14:31] <specky> ubottu, My FireFox is opening in 6 seconds how to fix it?
[14:32] <specky> ubottu, r u there?
[14:49] <Stanley|00> Spec: did you try nouvegnome gray icon?
[14:49] <calebyllyffant> help my nickname list has vanished, how do i get it back (the window on the right)
[14:49] <calebyllyffant> ?
[14:49] <Rory> calebyllyffant: What IRC client are you using?
[14:50] <Stanley|00> Spec: sorry, wrong nick :(
[14:50] <theadmin> calebyllyffant: Is most likely an option in a "View" menu. But depends on the client.
[14:51] <Rory> calebyllyffant: This is the ubuntu support channel, try asking in #xchat
[14:51] <zorael> Is there any way to debug fontconfig rules? Arial falls back to Liberation Sans [13.10], and I can't really figure out where.
[14:51] <calebyllyffant> client is xchat on ubuntu, cant find anything obvious!
[14:52] <calebyllyffant> got it thanks rory
[14:52] <xubuntu449> why is it better to use "sudo su" instead of logging in as a root?
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> !su
[14:54] <wafflejockTablet> xubuntu449: no root account to hack
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu449  because it too easy to ruin you system as root
[14:54] <Rory> xubuntu449: It isn't better to use "sudo su" it's better to use "sudo -i" if you need a root shell.
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu449  but it is even better (safer) to not be root at all
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> use sudo
[14:55] <xubuntu449> but can't I ruin just as many things with sudo command? What root can do that sudo can't ?
[14:55]  * gassho uses sudo
[14:55] <theadmin> xubuntu449: Nothing, except... You don't accidently stay logged in as root because you forgot to "exit". And, if many people need admin privelegs, they don't get to know the root password.
[14:56] <xubuntu449> oh ok I see
[14:56] <wafflejockTablet> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[14:58] <amcsi_work> hi, is there a command to reset security on Ubuntu? To remove any keys from /root/.ssh/authorized_keys, remove all users from the admin/sudo group, chown all files that should be root's, but isn't, back to root etc.?
[14:58] <theadmin> xubuntu449: Also, sudo caches the password for 15 minutes or until you close the terminal, whichever comes first, so that you can run multiple root commands without entering the password each time, it's more of a convenience really
[14:59] <theadmin> amcsi_work: No.
[14:59] <amcsi_work> so that when I take ownership of an Ubuntu server, the old admin wouldn't be able to access the server in any harmful way
[14:59] <amcsi_work> what do you recommend I do?
[15:00] <theadmin> amcsi_work: If you want to be completely safe, you'd probably want a reinstall of the system from scratch, I suppose.
[15:00] <amcsi_work> ah, that's too bad
[15:02] <dreamer> hmm, I'll try here then: anybody experience with x2go?
[15:03] <dreamer> I'm trying to get it to work with xubuntu (devs/users there are not keen on helping :P), but I keep getting: 'Unable to load a failsafe session'  << have tried to resolve it with a number of scripts that set $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and other variables, but with no luck
[15:03] <dreamer> would like to hear about some experiences
[15:04] <wafflejockTablet> Yeah if u need to be sure there are no back doors in place backing up sanitizing reinstalling and restoring is the only way
[15:05] <hylian> moc (or mocp) isn't responding at all to the keyboard. I think it's screwed up somehow..??
[15:06] <wafflejockTablet> amcsi_work: dpkg --get-selections to see all installed packages for later reference
[15:09] <martin__> Can someone tell me whether it's possible to run a script prior to mongodb shutting down and only let it shutdown after the script has executed properly
[15:10] <martin__> ?
[15:10] <ubuntini> how to remove an entry from pastebin.ubuntu.com?
[15:10] <theadmin> ubuntini: You can't, maybe only by contacting the administrators
[15:11] <dwirc> Hi folks.
[15:12] <jmgk> hi dwirc
[15:12] <dwirc> Hoping someone may be familiar with this... I'm attempting to prevent all users from rebooting, shutting down, sleeping or hybernating an Ubuntu 13.10 system (stock install)...
[15:13] <dwirc> I've put polkit rules in place both under /var/lib and /etc, however, normal users are still able to reboot the system via the "reboot" option in the upper right corner.
[15:13] <dwirc> All of the documents I've seen reference polkit as the way to prevent this, yet none of them seem to work for Ubuntu 13.10
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> martin__  with && you can execute something if the command prior to it, has been properly executed
[15:13] <dwirc> Is anyone aware of how this cna be done with Ubuntu 13.10 specifically?
[15:15] <martin__> Where about's in the upstart script should I put the command?
[15:15] <molgrum> how do i start programs and updates? what's the command
[15:15] <ubuntini> theadmin, how can i contact an admin? it's very important, 'cause i posted a source code to pasebin from me without removing user data :( i've forgot it..
[15:15] <molgrum> the app where i can see additional drivers
[15:16] <NastyNaz> everytime i reboot my ubuntu server the resolv.conf is flushed. any ideas why?
[15:16] <NimbleGrimble> lightdm.conf is logging on guest account regardless of it being turned off anywhere else i can look? ive also tried autologin of a user but does not work
[15:16] <theadmin> ubuntini: The pastes aren't searchable and you can only find it with a link, so it's unlikely someone will randomly see it. But you can contact webmaster@ubuntu.com for that kinda thing, I'd think.
[15:20] <molgrum> ok when i open "programs and updates" and click on additional drivers i get this error: http://pastebin.com/F2TuBWi2
[15:25] <hylian> mocp refuses to work properly, it loads, but then I can't choose audio tracks or anything. it's more like a static screenshot of mocp... anybody have this issue?
[15:26] <dreamer> I just use mpd
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> Hylian: if you want a consile based audio player use mplayer or vlc-nox
[15:28] <dreamer> it's unreconcilable
[15:28] <hylian> ActionParsnip: is that because moc is somehow no longer used or out of date or something? I've been using moc for years without issue, and now it has this error..??
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Hylian : what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !info moc
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Hylian : it's in Saucy so is used
[15:29] <hylian> ActionParsnip: precise. (I didn't run that command as su, should I have?
[15:30] <dreamer> hylian: no
[15:30] <vanishing> hylian: moc works here :O
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Hylian : no, users have read access which is enough
[15:30] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: suggesting mplayer or vlc as replacements for moc is kind of .. ahum .. weird (trying to be nice here ..)
[15:30] <hylian> I am wondering if it has anythign to do with my installing ffmpeg..
[15:30] <Turtleee> I've got a problem with SMPlayer... When I add a lot of mp3... I can't listen them in "continue mode"... When the first song ends.. It stops.
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer: how so?
[15:31] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: because they in no way replace its funcitonality
[15:31] <vanishing> hylian: try to move .moc in your home
[15:31] <vanishing> see if that helps
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer: can moc stream over lan etc too?
[15:31] <dreamer> might as well suggest mpg123
[15:31] <hylian> vanishing: i will try that, thanks
[15:31] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: does mplayer have an ncurses interface?
[15:32] <vanishing> ActionParsnip: erm...playing music is good enough for me....
[15:32] <vanishing> if i want to stream over lan I can us mpd
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : I guess it can if you find it. Mplayer is very modular
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> mplayer is old and bleck
[15:32] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: mplayer2 :)
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Mplayer is the daddy
[15:32] <hylian> vanishing: that solved the issue, why did that solve the issue??
[15:32] <theadmin> Old? It's being developed and improved constantly
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : can moc stream over lan?
[15:32] <zykotick9> hylian: as a former moc user, i'd highly suggest mpd+ncmpcpp as a possible replacemnt...
[15:32] <dreamer> mplayer is awesome, but it doesn't make any sence to suggest it as a replacement for moc
[15:32] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: not really, moc isn't for streaming
[15:32] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: like I said before: I never use moc
[15:33] <hylian> mplayer is great, but it doesn't have the user interface like moc for choosing audio.
[15:33] <dreamer> what do you even mean with 'stream over lan'? as output? or open a webstream?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : so what does moc have over mplayer except an ncurses ui?
[15:33] <dreamer> exactly
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> [10:32:23] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: mplayer2 :) ---> mplayer2 is dead
[15:34] <hylian> moc works now, thanks to vanishing... moving the .moc folder (perhaps even deleting it?) in /home/user/ solved my issue.
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> >old players
[15:34] <dreamer> it has a UI that hylian likes and wants. and moc should just work
[15:34] <dreamer> but, mpd is better :P
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer: stream over lan as in setup a syream then connect to it using a remote system to view
[15:34] <dreamer> he never even suggested that he wants that
[15:34] <Ari-Yang> I highlight suggest mpv if one wants to use a player that's like mplayer/mplayer2
[15:34] <dreamer> so your suggestion is again quite moot
[15:34] <hylian> dreamer: moc works now. I've never heard of mpd... sounds like there are more options than I have been aware of.
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> here's mpv: http://mpv.io/
[15:35] <dreamer> hylian: good for you :)
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : but you said advising mplayer was bad. Im not seeing any advantage yet as you haven't said anything to say why its a bad idea
[15:35] <dreamer> Ari-Yang: don't see it in apt
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> dreamer: lol, it won't be for a while I doubt
[15:35] <dreamer> Ari-Yang: mplayer doesn't replace moc in any way. so yes, the suggestion didn't make any sense. might as well have said mpg123
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> you'll have to install it from git on ubuntu
[15:35] <Ari-Yang> huh
[15:35] <dreamer> Ari-Yang: it's a videoplayer ..
[15:36] <hylian> Thanks all, i'm going to download the other options too, maybe I will prefer somehting else..
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> mplayer replacing moc? I've never said such a thing
[15:36] <dreamer> Ari-Yang: the conversation was about commandline audio-players
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : so why defend moc?
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> I'm just I recommend mpv over any mplayer in general
[15:36] <dreamer> Ari-Yang: ActionParsnip did.
[15:36] <Ari-Yang> oh
[15:36] <dreamer> sorry, tab-fail
[15:36] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: er, because that's what hylian wanted to get to work. you are suggestion $random_audio_player_without_sought_features
[15:37] <dreamer> "but mplayer can stream" << irrelevant
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> anyway, if you want mpv, you'll have to get it from git, there are instructions for compiling it on ubuntu.
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> and mpv can stream :b
[15:37]  * dreamer has no reason to try mpv
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : yes but your response implied moc was better. ..
[15:37] <dreamer> ActionParsnip: my response implied that your
[15:37] <dreamer> woops
[15:37] <Ari-Yang> lets just say that mpv is a very sane mplayer, with active devs
[15:37] <dreamer> that moc is what the user wants
[15:37] <hylian> dreamer has a point. mplayer rocks, I listen to shoutcast on it. MOC has a ui that lets you see and choose what file to play with the arrow keys and the enter/return button.
[15:37] <dreamer> not $random_audio_player_without_sought_features
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : with features galore. So I asked why it was better
[15:38] <dreamer> it's "better" because it's what the user wants
[15:38] <molgrum> when i open "programs and updates" and click on additional drivers i get this error: http://pastebin.com/F2TuBWi2
[15:38] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: wait...mplayer2 is dead?
[15:38] <molgrum> but i see no adict...
[15:38] <Turtleee> Ehm... I repeat.. Smplayer problem... It only plays 1 song. Then It stops playing the next songs in the list.
[15:38] <helmut_> hi
[15:38] <dreamer> anyway, proof that this channel is useless
[15:39] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: yes, again. If you want to use mplayer/mplayer2, I highly suggest mpv fork.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Dreamer : why? Because you disagree with one user? Is that how you think?  Wow
[15:39] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: not sure if you saw the link, http://mpv.io/
[15:39] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: aww man..i liked mplayer2
[15:39] <hylian> but I got help here dreamer, moc works again... (Thanks again vanishing).
[15:40] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: what about mplayer? still hanging in there?
[15:41] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: I'm not sure about mplayer
[15:45] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: mpv seg fauls on me :(
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> !info play
[15:46] <molgrum> how is power management looking on open source amd radeon drivers? still noisy?
[15:47] <Ari-Yang> molgrum: it's great on my end
[15:47] <Rory> molgrum: I've never noticed it be noisy, but I don't think anything has changed
[15:47] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: join #mpv-player lets talk there
[15:48] <dwirc> How does one remove the suspend item under Ubuntu 13.10?
[15:48] <dwirc> I just waht to remove it form view
[15:48] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: wait, how did you build mpv?
[15:48] <dwirc> I was able to remove reboot and shutdown through gsettings, but cannot find one for suspend
[15:49] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: just apt-geted it..
[15:49] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: lol it's not in ubuntu repos
[15:50] <molgrum> well i can give it a shot once again, how do i uninstall fglrx-updates? my software sources app is broken
[15:50] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: so I suggest you apt-get remove whatever you installed.... and follow these instructions https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build#instructions
[15:50] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: did you even read the terminal output of apt-get install mpv?
[15:51] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: nope..
[15:51] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: well that' silly... again apt-get remove whatever you apt-get
[15:51] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: just checked, nothing in apt-get output
[15:51] <Ari-Yang> k
[15:52] <vanishing> I guess the easy way fails again.:(
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: well follow the instructions I linked on git
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build#instructions
[15:52] <Ari-Yang> wait a min.
[15:53] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: I just found this ppa https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/mpv-tests not sure if mpv is 100% working from that ppa, but it's worth a shot if you don't want to compile yourself
[15:53] <wafflejockTablet> vanishing: if a package isn't in the repos you have configured the easy way doesn't work
[15:53] <apm1> i am trying to run a PSP emulator on 12.04
[15:54] <apm1> ./PPSSPPSDL: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./PPSSPPSDL)
[15:54] <vanishing> wafflejockTablet: huh....
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: but that ppa is only for 13.10
[15:54] <apm1> this is the problem i am guessing outdated glibc ?
[15:54] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: ill just compile it...
[15:54] <Ari-Yang> vanishing: kk, good luck
[15:54] <apm1> how do i find out what version of glibc 12.04 has ?
[15:55] <zykotick9> vanishing: (personal opinion only) i don't think an out-of-repo replacement for mplayer/mplayer2 is a great idea...  YMMV, good luck.
[15:56] <vanishing> zykotick9: thanks for the heads up, just wanna test it :)
[15:56] <Ari-Yang> zykotick9: ummm.. it's just fine
[15:56] <zykotick9> Ari-Yang: for YOU, see "/msg ubottu wfm" for some details on that...
[15:56] <Ari-Yang> zykotick9: it's no problem at all, having that kind of a mentality is well....yeah
[15:56] <Ari-Yang> and no thanks
[15:57] <zykotick9> Ari-Yang: it's NOT supported here, so are you promising to hang out here 24/7 when people have issues with it?
[15:57] <Ari-Yang> zykotick9: worst case scenario, vanishing will have to compile mpv again because he doesn't have the dev files
[15:57] <Ari-Yang> zykotick9: I told him to join mpv's channel
[15:57] <Ari-Yang> ;)
[15:58] <vanishing> my bad, should've talked in the other channel
[15:58] <vanishing> sry about that :)
[15:58] <Ari-Yang> no worries
[15:59] <wafflejockTablet> apm1: not always easy to check versions of libraries probably use sudo apt-cache search glibc to see what packages have it and see which one u have installed dpkg --get-selections | grep somepackage
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> apm1: dpkg --status YOUR_PACKAGE | grep ^Version
[15:59] <Ari-Yang> apm1: so in your case dpkg --status glibc | grep ^Version
[16:00] <apm1> wafflejockTablet, Ari-Yang , have already done that
[16:00] <wafflejockTablet> U may see it if u do ls -al  on the file itself
[16:00] <apm1> which file ?
[16:00] <bananapie> ickServ identify omnity4all
[16:00] <DJones> bananapie: New password time :)
[16:01] <bananapie> DJones :P
[16:01] <NastyNaz> lol
[16:01] <BluesKaj>  !u > wafflejockTablet
[16:02] <wafflejockTablet> On libc.so sometimes a symbolic link with the version in the actual file name
[16:02] <bananapie> DJones, I changed the password. Thanks.
[16:02] <wafflejockTablet> BluesKaj: sorry on a tablet think most understand u is you
[16:03] <theadmin> bananapie: Better to do "/query nickserv" first, and *then* post the identify part.
[16:03] <bananapie> yes
[16:03] <bananapie> yes indeeed.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> wafflejockTablet. , well , it's the rules for those whose first language isn't English
[16:04] <wafflejockTablet> I hear you I try to avoid extra acronyms where possible
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> wafflejockTablet  ywr (yes we are)
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> wafflejockTablet  tmamgcite (too many acronyms may get confusing in the end)
[16:08] <shaun__> tablet ran out of juice, no longer a problem :)
[16:10] <Guest89572> ciao
[16:10] <Guest89572> !list
[16:28] <johnjaylward> #spring
[16:28] <keep1> Having trouble with hostname configuration. Hostname is ctf560Team1. The /etc/hosts file contains the entries 127.0.0.1 localhost and 217.0.1.1 ctf560Team1 .   However when I reboot the OS won't load. Any ideas?
[16:28] <johnjaylward> \j
[16:29] <keep1> Correction, the second entry is 127.0.1.1
[16:31] <wafflejock> keep1: why do you have 127.0.0.1 going to anything other than your local machine?
[16:31] <keep1> all the forums have said to have the 127.0.0.1 as 127.0.0.1 localhost
[16:32] <keep1> Also my other ubuntu machine has its hosts file like that and it has not problems booting.
[16:33] <uncheckout> hello guys
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> keep1  127.0.0.1 is localhost, your local machine you're working with
[16:34] <wafflejock> keep1: as far as I understand 127.0.0.1 must always remain localhost and will as you've encountered cause boot problems if changed
[16:34] <uncheckout> help me please, i have some small bash script on raspberry pi on raspbian
[16:34] <wafflejock> you can use /etc/hosts to map any other name to any other IP but that one you can't change from what I understand
[16:34] <zykotick9> keep1: "127.0.0.1 localhost" then "127.0.1.1 YOURHOSTNAME" is correct
[16:34] <wafflejock> zykotick9: ah k I see
[16:34] <uncheckout> after upgrade script running but command mv rm-f etc not work
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> uncheckout  raspbian has its own channel
[16:35] <uncheckout> i changed folder to 775 nothing
[16:35] <DJones> uncheckout: Raspian isn't supported here, but they have their own channel on freenode #raspbian if you join there, they should be able to help you
[16:35] <keep1> So would there be anything else besides the hosts folder that is causing the error?
[16:35] <uncheckout> thanks
[16:36] <keep1> I've tried restaring the hostname and network services but get the error "unable to resovle host start"
[16:38] <custardpudding> I lost my account bananapie
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> keep1: if you ping start     do you get an IP address?
[16:39] <keep1> ActionParsnip: no, "unknown host start"
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> keep1: is 'start' the hostname of the PC you are running the ping from?
[16:40] <keep1> no, the hostname is ctf560Team1
[16:40] <newbie|2> Is there any way for me to know if someone is hacking my computer?
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> keep1: can you ping the IP of the 'start' system?
[16:40] <wafflejock> newbie|2: yeah depends on how much you undertand though
[16:41] <wafflejock> newbie|2: you can use programs like wireshark or inotifywatch to get info about what is happening on your filesystem and/or network
[16:41] <wafflejock> newbie|2: but without knowing what is "normal traffic" and filtering it out you're going to see a lot of activity which isn't necessarily malicious
[16:41] <newbie|2> wafflejock: I see the mouse moving in directions that I don't move and that it shouldn't move
[16:41] <wafflejock> newbie|2: sounds more like a hardware issue
[16:42] <wafflejock> newbie|2: if someone hacks your computer they aren't likely to try and do it through your GUI
[16:42] <jmgk> hi
[16:42] <keep1> ActionParsnip: I'm unfamiliar with the 'start'.
[16:42] <wafflejock> newbie|2: they would go in through a command line interface most likely and if they are smart would try to clean up traces of ever being there.... there are log files like auth.log that can help though
[16:42] <newbie|2> wafflejock: Yeah, but another thing I noticed ... I can't seem to - even with bleachbit - clean out my trash
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> keep1: isn't start the hostname of a remote PC?
[16:43] <newbie|2> wafflejock: and the deep scan hangs forever and never finishes
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> newbie|2  if somebody managed to hack your linux machine, that would be big news, write a blog about it
[16:44] <keep1> ActionParsnip: I can ping remote systems.
[16:44] <newbie|2> MonkeyDust: Are you serious.  I know that Linux (Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit) is much more secure than Windows, but ... is it invincible?
[16:44] <wafflejock> MonkeyDust: not necessarily not knowing what one is doing they could make a system pretty easy to compromise... I'm sure it happens plenty
[16:45] <newbie|2> wafflejock: I have to agree with you, even though I feel more secure than if I had Windows
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> keep1: ok, so what is 'start' ?
[16:45] <wafflejock> newbie|2: yeah I mean I think Linux tends to make you more security minded which helps a lot... and not running as admin all the time... but it's still good to be cautious
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> keep1: a server? a system on your LAN?
[16:46] <dondopa> Neat it works
[16:46] <wafflejock> newbie|2: being a small percentage of the overall desktop market as well it's not a very juicy target for hackers
[16:46] <dondopa> Thunderbird is a good IRC client
[16:46] <wafflejock> newbie|2: also lots of fragmentation so harder to target any one system and get a big payout machines wise... I'm not a hacker but i like to think like one :)
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> dondopa  thunderbird is a mail client, not a irc client
[16:47] <dondopa> It can act as one though
[16:47] <dondopa> has multiple purposes
[16:47] <dondopa> Iamusing it right now
[16:47] <keep1> ActionParsnip: it is a system on a LAN.  I can ping the other machines on the LAN but when I ping start It doesn't give me an IP, just and error of "unknown host start"
[16:48] <xubuntu449> ps
[16:48] <xangua> MonkeyDust: thunderbird does irc and twitter now
[16:48] <xangua> kind fo
[16:48] <xubuntu449> !ps
[16:48] <dondopa> Yes
[16:48] <wafflejock> newbie|2: here's a link you might enjoy http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-security.html
[16:48] <keep1> ActionParsnip: I tried ping start from the ubuntu machine that is working, and it also returns the same error.
[16:49] <DRiceTech> Anyone want to help me out with a rebooting issue in 13.10?
[16:50] <wafflejock> !details |  DRiceTech
[16:50] <usr13>            wafflejock newbie|2 Once you learn more about Linux, you'll know where and why it is more secure, and how to keep it that way.  There are things you can do that will make it insecure, and of course, there are things you can do to make it more secure.  No system is impregnable, but by default Linux is way ahead in the security department when you compare it to some other OS's (which will remain unmamed).
[16:50] <DRiceTech> okay, just making sure people were here haha - here we go
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> keep1: can you ping their IP addresses?
[16:51] <wafflejock> usr13: absolutely but there are mounds of reasons it is more secure and there are still mounds of ways you can mess it up
[16:51] <DRiceTech> I am using Ubuntu Server 13.10, whenever I try any combination of methods to reboot the server, the machine effortlessly shuts down every time - never a reboot.
[16:51] <keep1> I'm sorry I just understood what you were saying.  When i use the host name of the remote computer is cannot resolve it. However I can ping using the IPs
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> DRiceTech  sudo init 6
[16:51] <usr13> wafflejock: Ubuntu, by default, is pretty much as secure as it needs to be.
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> DRiceTech: tried:  sudo reboot
[16:52] <newbie|2> usr13: Sorry, I don't mean to name Voldemor ...
[16:52] <newbie|2> Oooppssss
[16:52] <DRiceTech> I have tried all of these: sudo reboot, sudo reboot now, sudo shutdown -r, sudo shutdown -r now, sudo init 6
[16:52] <DRiceTech> all with the same outcome
[16:52] <r3d0c3d> I have been redirected to this channel from #networking.
[16:53] <r3d0c3d> out of the vast collection of resources that google just dumped for me, I am not able to select which would be a good one for learning iptables from the very basics.
[16:53] <wafflejock> usr13: I disagree if you use the password password it's not that secure
[16:53] <usr13> newbie|2: I'm not being critical of anyone, just sharing info.
[16:54] <wafflejock> usr13: I mean I agree it is much more secure than many popular OSes, however users can screw themselves with ignorance
[16:54] <wafflejock> usr13: and if you plan to use this for a webserver or the like you may want to know more about extra precautions you can take
[16:54] <usr13> wafflejock: Do you have ssh server installed yet?
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> r3d0c3d  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[16:54] <DRiceTech> Is there a phone number I can call to get help with my shutdown only/no reboot issue?
[16:55] <Sh1G3rU> the level of security of a system is as low as its weakest chain : its user
[16:55] <wafflejock> usr13: yeah
[16:55] <usr13> wafflejock: THen make your password strong.
[16:55] <newbie|2> usr13: I don't take it personal.  I'm just being a little funny
[16:55] <wafflejock> usr13: indeed using keepassx
[16:55] <wafflejock> usr13: just got paranoid enough about the passwords cause of Adobe, thx adobe :)
[16:56] <newbie|2> wafflejock: What is keeoassx?
[16:56] <wafflejock> usr13: it generates passwords. actually for SSH I just use private key
[16:56] <usr13> wafflejock: The webserver applications are by default secure.
[16:56] <wafflejock> usr13: it depends on how you install them, not entirely but mostly
[16:56] <Sh1G3rU> adobe is the source of proud of all the lamers that are floating the internet !!!
[16:56] <r3d0c3d> thank you MonkeyDust :)
[16:57] <wafflejock> usr13: it's fine for a development machine, if you plan to expose it to the world there's somethings that should be locked down/turned off
[16:57] <newbie|2> wafflejock: Does that mean that you don't need to have your own password ... if it generates them for you?
[16:57] <wafflejock> newbie|2: yeah 1 password to lock the local/encrypt the local keyfile database then it generates the rest
[16:57] <keep1> ActionParsnip: Do I need to have DNS set up?
[16:57] <wafflejock> Ctrl+B to copy username from it and Ctrl+C for the password
[16:57] <wafflejock> it's pretty convenient
[16:57] <newbie|2> wafflejock: thx
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> keep1: your home grade router will manage DNS for you
[16:57] <newbie|2> I'm gonna go for now
[16:57] <newbie|2> bye everyone
[16:57] <wafflejock> newbie|2: later
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> keep1: sec, i've seen this
[16:58] <usr13> wafflejock: One good way to keep a system secure is to not install services you don't need, (or to uninstall ones you don't currently use).
[16:58] <wafflejock> usr13: absolutely it's a big part of the hardening stuff I posted above
[16:58] <usr13> wafflejock: And a good router/firewall is also key.
[16:58] <wafflejock> usr13: I do have XFCE on my server which I know is a no-no, but all good
[16:58] <zykotick9> DON'T use password!  Use Passsentences ;)
[16:59] <usr13> Yea, no need for GUI on a server IMO
[16:59] <wafflejock> usr13: Amazon seems to have a firewall ahead of my server
[16:59] <wafflejock> usr13: you think I should run a local firewall too ?
[17:00] <DRiceTech> Having a server that doesn't reboot is a major problem - does anyone have *ANY* insight
[17:00] <keep1> ActionParsnip: cool, cool, thanks.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> keep1: on the Ubuntu systems, run:    gksudo gedit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[17:00] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: sorry that is not cool, but no idea what's going on there
[17:00] <Surkow|laptop> hi guys, I'm wondering what script I usually see in the forums is used to diagnose disc/boot related issues. I previously installed linux mint 15 which gave me an error "kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". I couldn't find any issues with grub (it boots from the correct partition and I have no separate boot that can be full), but I figured trying ubuntu can't hurt. After installing ubuntu I
[17:00] <Surkow|laptop>  ended up with another unbootable system. This time around I got "ALERT /dev/diskby-uuid/ does not exist. Dropping to shell" as error.
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> keep1: change:   send host-name "$host";      to     send host-name "ActualHostName";
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> keep1: e.g:    send host-name "fs01";
[17:00] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: fsck
[17:01] <wafflejock> !fsck | Surkow|laptop
[17:01] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, they are new installations and new partitions. I'll try to do a file system check - but I doubt it will make a difference.
[17:02] <Surkow|laptop> I was thinking it might be a UUID issue
[17:02] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: oh thought you were just asking for that... yeah not sure about them errors though
[17:02] <Screwba> Heya all...quick question.  I have joined my Ubuntu 13.10 computer to my Active Directory domain but I can not login using my AD Credentials unless I first create the account on the system but using my exact same process on Ubu 12.x and 13.04 works perfectly fine...I have searched around but can not find any reason why Ubu 13.10 is not auto-creating the users when I attempt to login...any suggestions?
[17:03] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: blkid to check the UUID not sure what's going wrong though
[17:03] <mustmodify> I'm timing out SSHing into a new machine. Is this more likely a firewall or a sneaky authentication issue? http://pastie.org/8510306
[17:03] <Screwba> using wbinfo -t/-u/-g all work
[17:03] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, I normally see people with bootinfoscript
[17:03] <Surkow|laptop> "From a LiveCD, if you can download the boot info script from the following site it can tell us a lot about your boot files. Run the script, then post the contents of RESULTS.txt.
[17:03] <Surkow|laptop> http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net"
[17:03] <dewdude> mustmodify, do you have sshd running on port 22?
[17:03] <xevwork> Does apport generate crash logs for SUID applications? I know core dumps aren't generated unless you tweak an entry in proc.
[17:04] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, seems like the script calls blkid
[17:04] <dewdude> because, at least in my expierence; you'll connect to the ssh server and get output as it prompts for a login
[17:05] <wafflejock> yeah think blkid is just mean to be block device identifier or something haven't pulled up the man I don't think though
[17:05] <dewdude> so if  you're not connecting at all; it's either not running, not running on port 22, or a firewall issue
[17:05] <wafflejock> +1 dewdude
[17:05] <wafflejock> should get prompted for password even if username is wrong assuming 22 is open and sshd is running
[17:05] <Rory> wafflejock: Yes of course!
[17:06] <Rory> wafflejock: Otherwise an attacker could easily tell if a username is valid or not
[17:06] <Screwba> and remember, SSH is not installed on ubuntu by default...which I find really weird...I thought it used to be though
[17:06] <wafflejock> Rory: indeed just pointing it out to mustmodify
[17:06] <Rory> Screwba: openssh-server has never been included in the default installation afaik
[17:06] <mustmodify> dewdude: It's not my box. A friend was told by a coworker that she should be able to access this machine. I'm also trying it. She's getting an error so she had me try. I want to tell her I think it's a firewall but thought I would run it by someone else first. I do not know for sure that it has sshd running.
[17:07] <wafflejock> Screwba: yeah think it's in a lot of Amazon images and whatnot but not Ubuntu itself
[17:07] <Screwba> Rory: I may be thinking of Debian, CentOS or Red Hat
[17:07] <DRiceTech> What's the easiest way to move files around on a samba network using Server 13.10
[17:07] <DRiceTech> *LOTS* of files
[17:07] <dewdude> if you can't connect to it at all...then it's not running/not running on 22/firewalled
[17:07] <ecadre> Rory: True, not even a Debian standard desktop install includes openssh
[17:07] <dewdude> and...i just realized this was not the room I waas looking for
[17:07] <dewdude> *sigh* habit.
[17:08] <Voziv> Is there a way to allow a normal user to be able to restart php/mysql/apache without giving them access to anything else?
[17:08] <dewdude> anyone care to answer a pptp question for me anyway?
[17:08] <DRiceTech> dewdude, i'll attempt it
[17:08] <Screwba> ecadre: I am pretty sure Debian used to add it by default...
[17:08] <wafflejock> dewdude: haha not sure you'll find a whole lot of support for that here but you can shoot
[17:08] <keep1> ActionParsnip: there is nothing in the dhclient.conf . So I am adding send host-name ctf560Team1, correct?
[17:08] <hitsujiTMO> voziv give a user or group sudo access to a restricted set of apps or scripts
[17:09] <Voziv> I see, thanks
[17:09] <dewdude> when configuring pptpd; do you have to specify a non-existant IP range and forward with iptables to the LAN..or can you specify existing non-assigned LAN ip space?
[17:09] <Screwba> All:  Anyone have any suggestions to my issue?
[17:10] <hitsujiTMO> Voziv: there's some examples in here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/sudo
[17:10] <Voziv> Is there a reccomended directory to put user scripts in?
[17:10] <zykotick9> Voziv: ~/bin is handy, it's automatically in your PATH
[17:11] <__raven> hi
[17:11] <Screwba> Voziv:  I usually use /usr/local/bin
[17:11] <wafflejock> dewdude: don't have a clear answer for you, my guess would be to keep any ranges separate, DHCP vs static etc. but I don't know PPTPd to say with any confidence
[17:11] <__raven> how to dd sda on livesystem 1 to sda on livesystem 2 via network?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> keep1: no, it should be default populated
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> keep1: there is a file with $host instead of the actual hostname
[17:11] <dewdude> yeah, I only have like...3IP's on my network set to static..and my router handles those
[17:11] <DRiceTech> dewdude: your logic is correct, but I'm pretty sure you can do it either way
[17:12] <DRiceTech> just make sure they are out of the range like waffle suggested
[17:12] <keep1> ActionParsnip: I'm not quite clear on what you are asking.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> keep1: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13117/how-to-request-a-hostname-from-a-dhcp-server-on-ubuntu
[17:12] <dewdude> yeah.
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: is sda mounted as rw on sys 1    or ro on sys 2    at the time?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> keep1: http://www.lucidtips.com/2008/11/17/send-hostname-to-dhcp-server-on-ubuntuxubuntu/
[17:12] <wafflejock> __raven: must the system being DDed be live? I don't believe that's recommended
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> keep1: and so forth, the internet is an ocean of knowledge
[17:12] <dewdude> i can say my router doesn't care if i accidently assign a static IP in it's range; it picks it up and handles it
[17:13] <dewdude> becuase my slingboxes got an IP from DHCP; then they set themselves static
[17:13] <wafflejock> dewdude: yeah may be an issue if DHCP already gave out that address though
[17:13] <dewdude> oh, well aware of that
[17:13] <dewdude> i can check that before i pick a range
[17:13] <DRiceTech> best practice is to just limit your dhcp range and then use static addresses outside of the pool
[17:13] <wafflejock> yeah easiest to just give yourself the first 20 or so
[17:13] <wafflejock> whatever you need
[17:14] <wafflejock> then just set DHCP above that
[17:14] <wafflejock> just keeps things simple IMO
[17:14] <dewdude> yeah; I'm not sure what the DHCP range on my router is
[17:14] <Screwba> or use DHCP reservations
[17:14] <DRiceTech> ^^
[17:14] <dewdude> I generally keep any static IP's over .200
[17:14] <DRiceTech> dewdude: what router
[17:14] <dewdude> it's an Actiontec
[17:14] <dewdude> i have fios
[17:14] <DRiceTech> lucky
[17:14] <dewdude> i jusst haven't looked in it's confug
[17:14] <dewdude> config
[17:15] <DRiceTech> they usually take the entire .1-254 range
[17:15] <dewdude> but i do know i have set static IP's in it's DHCP range that were unassigned and it lists those assignments as static in it's statis
[17:15] <wafflejock> yeah I recently got a DD-WRT buffalo router, the interface is pretty awesome
[17:15] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: no its not mounted. i need to transfer the whole hdd/system from sys 1 to 2. i now did dd if ... | ssh root@sys2 "dd of=..." will that work?
[17:15] <dewdude> so as long as I don't pick an in use IP, it's pretty easy-going about that
[17:15] <DRiceTech> I uses Asus RTs with RMerlin FW
[17:15] <dewdude> I don't have ethernet to the ONT...otherwise I'd use something else entirely
[17:17] <Bennage> Hi all]
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> what's ONT ?
[17:18] <Bennage> I'm having an issue while trying to install samba4 in 12.04
[17:18] <dewdude> Optical NEtwork Terminal
[17:18] <dewdude> it's the device on the side of my house that the fiber optic connects to
[17:18] <dewdude> and from there it provides coax, ethernet, and POTS connection
[17:19] <knoppix_> program to access cell phone via usb cable connection ?      if any ?
[17:19] <DRiceTech> knoppix: you are looking for the Android SDK I assume
[17:19] <wafflejock> knoppix_: what kind of phone what kind of access
[17:19] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: no that would not work. maybe mounting the target as sshfs. But tbh id dd to a file, verify the file, send it via nfs, then trigger a dd on the target side
[17:20] <ollie-> how could i make my own face recognition login? could i use a program that detects if its the same face, and somehow code my own login thingy?
[17:20] <knoppix_> wafflejock i have lg phone and want pictures from
[17:20] <DRiceTech> ollie: I would think that someone has probably come up with this already
[17:20] <dewdude> facial recgonition on PC's are insecure usually
[17:20] <wafflejock> knoppix_: if you have Android you can use AirDroid to transfer on your wifi
[17:20] <dewdude> my laptop has it; you can do it with a photo of me
[17:20] <dewdude> on a cell phone
[17:20] <hitsujiTMO> ollie- its not recommended as someone could log in with a photo of you. but you could have a look into opencv
[17:21] <knoppix_> ok
[17:21] <wafflejock> knoppix_: alternatively just plugging in you should see the device as auto mounted to browse... but I personally prefer AirDroid most of the time
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> knoppix_  try wammu/gammu
[17:21] <DRiceTech> knoppix: you might have to set USB mode on the device after plugging in through USB
[17:21] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: why would this not work?
[17:21] <knoppix_> monkeydust ty
[17:21] <ollie-> opencv, i remember looking at that, thank you. And it doesnt matter how secure my computer is
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> !info gammu
[17:22] <wafflejock> MonkeyDust: nice never heard of that one
[17:22] <dewdude> I have no clue where they hid the DHCP config on this rouuter
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> __ranen because your piping to ssh and not the command that you're having ssh execute upon login
[17:22] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: ^
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> i've used, it's nice, but not very practical for my old mobiole phone (7 years old or so) http://wammu.eu/
[17:23] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: that might be possible with sshfs as i've said but not with ssh
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> typos*
[17:23] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: ok tnx
[17:23] <dewdude> oh well. but I know what you guys are saying in regards to making sure I stay outside the assigned range.
[17:23] <dewdude> I don't think I have to worry since the router hasn't assigned an IP higher than .106
[17:24] <ptyyy> !info screen
[17:24] <wafflejock> dewdude: ah yeah should have the DHCP stuff under LAN setup somewhere
[17:24] <zykotick9> ptyyy: if you are interested in screen, i'd highly recommend the new kid - tmux in it's place YMMV
[17:25] <wafflejock> dewdude: but I'm sure if you go with like 170 range you'll prob be fine or like you said earlier above 200 or whatever, it's not a guarantee but mostly should be fine
[17:25] <ptyyy> zykotick9, thanks :)
[17:25] <dewdude> well...I've had this thing for 3 years and I've studied it's behavior
[17:25] <DRiceTech> is there a way to set a machine to have the unity desktop, but choose whether or not to launch it?
[17:25] <dewdude> it assigns IP's in order starting at .2
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> DRiceTech: unity is a shell, not a desktop ;)
[17:25] <dewdude> exceptt for the cable boxes; which are on the MoCA network and get assigned over .100
[17:25] <DRiceTech> mmm
[17:26] <DRiceTech> I'm behind on Desktop environments for ubuntu
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> DRiceTech: you are still using Gnome, just like you probably already did
[17:26] <DRiceTech> only reason i'm attempting to install one is because i need to transfer a great deal of files over the network and can't find an easy CLI solution
[17:26] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[17:26] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: cp
[17:26] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: or rsync
[17:26] <wafflejock> rsync is a bit slower though
[17:26] <wafflejock> easiest option is to mount some newtork location then just cp I believe
[17:26] <DRiceTech> yeah, rsync isn't gonna work for this situation
[17:27] <DRiceTech> 7 TB of data
[17:27] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: yeah
[17:27] <wafflejock> that's kind of a lot
[17:27] <wafflejock> haha
[17:27] <DRiceTech> just a bit.
[17:27] <DRiceTech> i tried lubuntu, but that bitch broke after 4 logins
[17:27] <hitsujiTMO> DRiceTech: sftp not good enough?
[17:28] <ezra-s> DRiceTech, what do you mean by "broke"?
[17:28] <dewdude> well, i appreciate all the advice. i'll go roaming around the internet and see if I can find more info.
[17:28] <DRiceTech> i was trying to FXP across my original DLINKNAS and this new server and having some major issues - I would like to setup some sort of transfer queue so i can track what files did and didn't make it
[17:28] <keep1> ActionParsnip: after editing the dhclient.conf log I am still unable to reboot the machine and have it load.  It gets stuck after "*starting internet superserver xinetd [ok]"
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> keep1: you could add the name resolution in /etc/hosts
[17:29] <hitsujiTMO> DRiceTech: rsync should handle that for you
[17:29] <keep1> ActionParsnip: yes, if I ping the hostname it resolves to the IP.
[17:30] <DRiceTech> rsync is super slow
[17:30] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: true rsync can recover from the failure but does slow things down... depending on the machines at each end
[17:30] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: is it all Gigabit?
[17:30] <DRiceTech> wafflejock: it is now, lol
[17:30] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: you could twist up a crossover cable and go direct
[17:30] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: I did it to restore some stuff off my NAS recently, just cut out the middle man
[17:31] <DRiceTech> yeah, I suppose I could - sigh I'm just going to install ubuntu-desktop and go GUI
[17:31] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: just set static IPs on both and hook a crossover between the two, then use cp I think that was the fastest solution... I was only moving like 40GB though
[17:31] <hitsujiTMO> DRiceTech: what  type of data? can you not just tar it in chunks? and transfer the chunks over?
[17:32] <DRiceTech> hitsuiji: media - already compressed
[17:32] <DRiceTech> i'm giving them their own personal netflix
[17:32] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: really I don't know if you want to even try that over a network
[17:32] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: is bringing the drives internal an option?
[17:33] <DRiceTech> I could probably just pull the two ext4 jbod drives out of the DLINKNAS but that scares me a bit
[17:33] <wafflejock> one sec want to do some math on the theororetical best here
[17:35] <Guest51634> .
[17:35] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: looking at 15.5 hrs I think at minimum
[17:36] <DRiceTech> is that through gigE?
[17:36] <wafflejock> yeah will see if I can find an online calc to verify but 7 TB * 8 bits per byte to get to bits, = 56 Terabits = 56,000 Gigabits / 60 seconds per minute / 60 minutes per hour
[17:37] <DRiceTech> i'd say that's a very conservative rate - that's if all files were the same size
[17:37] <DRiceTech> the math is right though
[17:38] <wafflejock> you mean you think it will take longer right?
[17:38] <DRiceTech> yeah i think it'll take a lot longer
[17:38] <wafflejock> yeah definitely
[17:38] <wafflejock> I was saying theororetical best
[17:38] <DRiceTech> yeah that is definitely the theoretical best haha
[17:38] <DRiceTech> when will computers be as fast as brains, damnt!
[17:39] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: if you brought them in you can get like 300 MB/s (2.4Gbps) I think on regular SATA and higher on the SATA II/III I believe
[17:40] <DRiceTech> yeah, i think that's what i'm going to do
[17:40] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: but like you said don't know if I would risk it if the time isn't a big deal
[17:41] <DRiceTech> i keep thinking like this, if i powerdown the DLINKNAS and pull the two ext4 jbod disks out - put em in the linux box, it won't modify anything too badly if i just copy the contents - take em out, throw em back in the DLINKNAS and power it back up
[17:42] <wafflejock> DRiceTech: you should be able to mount read only to minmize your risk
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> DRiceTech  a computer as large as old ENIAC can perform tasks of a mouse foetus brain or so - and that's considered an huge accomplishment
[17:42] <wafflejock> that is a huge accomplishment
[17:42] <DRiceTech> MonkeyDust: Yeah I read about that - pretty cool
[17:42] <wafflejock> the brain is a complex dense mess
[17:43] <wafflejock> Watson is pretty amazing
[17:43] <wafflejock> as is Wolfram Alpha
[17:44] <ovrflw0x> i've to manually do "hciconfig up" to get rid of "No adapters found" message in bluedevil what to do?
[17:45] <Screwba> anyone know Ubuntu and Active Directory integration?
[17:45] <wafflejock> Screwba: sorry negative, I saw some issue 13.10 works on other Ubuntu doesn't make user folder and such on login or something
[17:46] <Screwba> wafflejock:  I have 12.04/12.10/13.04 working perfectly but, yes, 13.10 does not create the directories for some reason...
[17:47] <Screwba> wafflejock:  thanks
[17:48] <Screwba> wafflejock:  know of anywhere else I could ask?
[17:50] <wafflejock> Screwba: you can try #windows but they will likely point you back here, guess askubuntu.com and post a bug so you can just link later for others to see your full issue and what you've tried
[17:55] <Ilmen> Hello
[17:56] <Ilmen> What file system use Lubuntu?
[17:56] <ovrflw0x> i've to manually do "hciconfig up" to get rid of "No adapters found" message in bluedevil what to do? Bus 002 Device 003: ID 174f:1414 Syntek  <-- hardware
[18:01] <Ilmen> It seems one can install Ubuntu from within Lubuntu; I think I'll have a try burning Lubuntu as Ubuntu is too heavy for 700MB CDs
[18:01] <noez> hey guys ... my notepad++ just fucked up my 1400+ lines of code bash script (connecting via ftp) and my oldest revision is 3 weeks old ... any chance ubuntu auto backups recently ran scripts?
[18:02] <wotan147> Anyone knows why I have a "Could not bind to 127.0.0.1:9050: Address already in use. Is Tor already running?" when launching tor on ubuntu?
[18:03] <h00k> noez: try to mind the language, but no, there's no cache of recently ran scripts
[18:04] <h00k> noez: undo/backups? :s
[18:04] <hitsujiTMO> noez: nope. you should start looking into SCM like git or bzr
[18:04] <noez> sorry man I'm about to cry out of desperation
[18:04] <noez> just worked 5+ hours on it ... saved when I finished and something went wrong and I lost it all
[18:05] <wafflejock> noez: you should listen to hitsujiTMO here and get git setup
[18:05] <calinba> Hola
[18:05] <Ilmen> Hola
[18:05] <wafflejock> noez: you can use github.com if you aren't worried about your code being public or are willing to pay a small fee for privacy or you can setup your own git server, even git by itself will give you a local history
[18:06] <noez> well thanks everyone for suggestions ... but I just want this one back =(
[18:06] <calinba> De que trata este canal
[18:07] <wafflejock> noez: yeah unfortunately without making your own backups or using source control there's no real way to go back
[18:07] <wafflejock> it's why scm exists
[18:07] <wafflejock> you do this once then you learn about scm :)
[18:07] <calinba> Lol
[18:07] <noez> okay :'(
[18:07] <wafflejock> !es | calinba
[18:07] <calinba> No
[18:07] <hitsujiTMO> noez: have a read of http://git-scm.com/book gits surprisingly easy to set up and use
[18:07] <wafflejock> yeah very easy to do just do it now
[18:08] <wafflejock> sudo apt-get install git
[18:08] <wafflejock> the command to make a new repo: git init
[18:08] <calinba> I am spike inglish
[18:09] <noez> I will wafflejock thx for suggestions .. but not now
[18:09] <noez> now I'll smoke 1g of pot
[18:09] <noez> to clear my mind
[18:09] <hitsujiTMO> nice to meet you spike
[18:09] <noez> otherwise I'll kill someone
[18:10] <viju> Hello
[18:10] <garshasp> finally got diskless stickless wubi 32-bit install to work off of xp
[18:10] <garshasp> so thats good
[18:10] <garshasp> sweet 32bit lxde
[18:11] <calinba>  Viju  hello
[18:11] <viju> Please, help me! The NetworkManager icon from the above taskbar has gone after I tried this - sudo ppoeconf
[18:11] <viju> now I can
[18:12] <viju> Now I can't even connect to the Internet
[18:14] <viju> Please.
[18:15] <ollie-> does anyone know a program for face unlock?  im too confused to make my own
[18:15] <genii> viju: When you manually configure a connection by command-line or edit the interfaces file, network manager then assumes your connection has been manually configured ( which it has) and will not do anything to override that.
[18:16] <wafflejock> ollie-: if as you said you aren't concerned about security why not just go with the auto-login option
[18:16] <hitsujiTMO> ollie-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115930/how-to-run-pam-face-authentication
[18:17] <ollie-> i wanted to try face authentication, and that one doesnt work, i tried it not long ago
[18:17] <viju> genii: I don't care about that now. I just want it back. How do I get it back?
[18:17] <dlevey> Afternoon folks, kind of a weird question. I recently purchased a dedicated server with Ubuntu 13.04 on it, with some altered configurations, as it's in a colo spot a clean install is out of my range of options.. Is there a way to reconfigure all settings to default, almost like a clean install?
[18:20] <genii> viju: The simplest thing is to clean up your /etc/network/interfaces file back to normal and then it should work again properly
[18:21] <genii> viju: Alternately, if your pppoeconfig info is correct, just issue the pon command to start that one up
[18:22] <viju> ok
[18:22] <viju> I'll try that and come back if I need further help.
[18:22] <viju> Thanks.
[18:23] <rigo88> hi. i installed modem-manager-gui but it sais no devices in system
[18:24] <rigo88> as i have a 3g device in my laptop i understand not why it sais this.
[18:24] <dlevey> http://url.phsrvr.com/9ME6EQ
[18:25] <genii> rigo88: Depending on the type ( for instance Gobi cards ) it may need a special startup routine
[18:26] <wafflejock> dlevey: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48886/how-do-i-list-the-default-installed-packages
[18:26] <wafflejock> dlevey: you can use dpkg --get-selections to see all currently installed packages
[18:27] <genii> !info gobi-loader | rigo88 Like for instance this one
[18:27] <rigo88> i check what is the card name.
[18:27] <dlevey> wafflejock: Preciate the response... I know there's some network configurations that were adjusted, how would I revert those to default as well?
[18:27] <EminentDomain> interestingly I've found out that torrenting on ubuntu is crap loads faster than on windows
[18:28] <wafflejock> dpkg-reconfigure packagename should re run configuration for a package dlevey not entirely sure on reverting the network config changes
[18:28] <Kry> Hallo
[18:28] <dlevey> wafflejock: Thanks.
[18:28] <wafflejock> dlevey: sure thing good luck on that one... a clean install would certainly be easier if you can find a way
[18:29] <dlevey> I mean, any recommendations on how to do that for a remote location?
[18:29] <Kry> I'm having a 64 but windows, but I can't emulate 64 bit ubuntu in VBox. Do I miss something?
[18:29] <wafflejock> dlevey: well I just use Amazon AWS where they have a web management console for starting instances and picking images and things like that
[18:30] <dlevey> wafflejock: ;) Yah, not quite the same, I've been on digital ocean for some time now.
[18:30] <wafflejock> dlevey: think you could do a Grub ISO boot but I don't have experience and am not sure I would be comfortable doing this without physical access
[18:30] <rigo88> 3G 	QUALCOMM 	3G Module Driver
[18:30] <rigo88> cant tell u more
[18:30] <rigo88> it is an acer aspire one zg5 / aoa150
[18:31] <wafflejock> dlevey: nice digital ocean looks like a pretty good deal
[18:31] <wafflejock> dlevey: not so good on the admin interface and backup and such though huh?
[18:32] <rigo88> well i installed gobi-loader. do i need simply to reboot?
[18:32] <dlevey> wafflejock: Yah, if you want to try it lemme get you a coupon // i like it.
[18:32] <genii> rigo88: I would suspect then it is a Gobi type card because of the Qualcomm chipset. For this you need the firmware off your Windows driver cd for it, plus the gobi-loader module mentioned earlier
[18:32] <dlevey> wafflejock: If you want a coupon for D/O send me a pm
[18:32] <wafflejock> sure might be worth experimenting with, database heavy stuff really benefits from SSD
[18:32] <daftykins> Kry: are you only able to boot 32-bit OSs?
[18:33] <rigo88> i dont have the driver cd
[18:33] <daftykins> rigo88: try the manufacturer website for your laptop model, it may have driver downloads to do what genii suggests
[18:34] <Kry> I'm having a 64 bit windows, but I can't emulate 64 bit ubuntu in VBox. Do I miss something?
[18:34] <rigo88> im on it. it only has xp drivers :D
[18:34] <Kry> crap, wrong button :(
[18:34] <genii> rigo88: Can you please pastebin the result of command: lspci -nn   so that we may see the vendor:device id, and then look up the exact card
[18:34] <rigo88> corse. on it.
[18:34] <ObrienDave> Kry... did you install 64bit Vbox?
[18:35] <genii> Bleh, work needs me, back in 5-10 minutes tops
[18:35] <Kry> I haven't tried, I use 64 bit on my real machine, so I guessed, I need 64 bit on VBox too
[18:35] <garshasp> wheres synaptic package manager
[18:35] <garshasp> on lxde
[18:35] <ObrienDave> system
[18:35] <kontinuity> hi all
[18:35] <daftykins> Kry: you may have the virtualisation features disabled in your BIOS/EFI - what processor does your system have?
[18:35] <rigo88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6480313
[18:36] <kontinuity> how do I generate source package from a git repo to upload on ppa?
[18:36] <kontinuity> freeswitch is the repo in question
[18:37] <Kry> I have some kind Intel core duo 2
[18:37] <Kry> I don't know the BIOS features yet
[18:37] <wafflejock> Kry: when you make the vbox image you need to pick that it's Linux x64
[18:37] <jmgk> hi
[18:38] <rigo88> seems no 3g shit installed right?
[18:38] <Kry> I downloaded x86/amd64 version of VBox
[18:38] <Kry> Doesn't that work for Intel 64?
[18:38] <ObrienDave> yes
[18:39] <rigo88> genii: got it?
[18:41] <rigo88> brb. im rebooting
[18:42] <xevwork> I've got a VirtualBox VM that crashes in VirtualBox 4.3.2 but runs fine in VirtualBox 4.2.18. I've asked about it in #vbox and they need a crash dump from me in order to look into it. I've followed their steps for generating a crash dump (https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Core_dump), but it doesn't create a file in /var/crash.
[18:43] <xevwork> The file /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox is SUID - could that be preventing apport from generating the crash log?
[18:44] <rigo88> aaaaaaanddddd it works :D
[18:44] <jmgk_> hi
[18:44] <jmgk_> hi pinky
[18:44] <jmgk_> rigo88:
[18:44] <daftykins> xevwork: try the virtualbox channel #vbox
[18:44] <rigo88> at least the modem is available. no matter i cant connect. it is some credential question which is my problem... :)
[18:45] <xevwork> daftykins: ^^ They sent me here, as I stated above.
[18:45] <daftykins> xevwork: seriously? getting a classic pinball setup then :S
[18:45] <xevwork> daftykins: It's an apport issue at this point. I need apport to generate a crash log, but it isn't.
[18:46] <xevwork> daftykins: We know vbox is crashing, but apport doesn't create a crash dump in /var/crash.
[18:46] <rigo88> ty for your support. afk. bye
[18:46] <wafflejock> Kry: intel 64 is based on amd64 so same
[18:46] <daftykins> xevwork: ok i'm not experienced enough for that one
[18:46] <Kry> I'm checking the BIOS then, brb
[18:47] <Smilex> "OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits)" this is what I get if I do "glxinfo | grep renderer", and this link https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1088434#p1088434 mentions that if it looks like that my driver is broken, and I'm running a software renderer instead of a hardware one. Is this true?
[18:48] <jelly-home> what's the codename for 12.04 release, precise?
[18:48] <Pici> jelly-home: yes
[18:48] <daftykins> jelly-home: yes
[18:48] <jelly-home> thanks!
[18:51] <wolfgang_> hello
[18:51] <daftykins> greetings
[18:51] <daftykins> ask away if you have a question
[18:51] <wolfgang_> i have some problems tu get phpmyadmin running on ubuntu 13.10
[18:51] <wolfgang_> someone here who can help?
[18:51] <daftykins> what are you doing and what's not working?
[18:52] <daftykins> we need details++
[18:52] <wolfgang_> http://pastebin.kde.org/puhe3zbko
[18:52] <lord4163> wolfgang_: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[18:52] <Kry> Hi
[18:52] <Kry> I've not found anything useful in BIOS
[18:52] <lord4163> wolfgang_: It says you messed up the config of apache ;)
[18:53] <ObrienDave> Kry... did you install "guest additions ISO"?
[18:53] <Kry> Nope
[18:53] <daftykins> Kry: can you open the terminal program and run "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" enter your password, then run "cat /proc/cpuinfo | pastebinit" and paste the resulting link here?
[18:53] <Kry> No, I can't even install Ubuntu yet
[18:53] <daftykins> ObrienDave: that's a little further along than being able to boot a given architecture VM :D
[18:54] <daftykins> Kry: it's really important you explain how you installed virtualbox also, including the exact filenames of anything you downloaded if you can
[18:54] <wolfgang_> http://pastebin.kde.org/pmwgipikl
[18:54] <FourFire> Hello, what is the best alternative to flash I can use (I want to watch youtube and other content requiring flash without compromising my security down to windoze levels)
[18:54] <Fachwirt> Hallo
[18:55] <Kry> I've enabled EFI, and now I'm in some kind of command boot menu
[18:55] <zykotick9> FourFire: gnash+html5 for youtube "somewhat" works... but i wouldn't even go so far as to say "most"
[18:55] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, H.264 is well implemented on many sites
[18:55] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, You may not strictly need flash
[18:55] <Fachwirt> Deutsch=
[18:55] <viju> Hello
[18:56] <wolfgang_> @Fachwirt
[18:56] <wolfgang_> Hoi
[18:56] <Fachwirt> Hi Wolfgang
[18:56] <FourFire> geekmasterflash: can you kindly guide me to a tutorial in how to install it?
[18:56] <wolfgang_> Kennst dich mit phpmyadmin aus
[18:56] <wolfgang_> ?
[18:56] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Should already be part of Firefox or other browsers
[18:56] <Fachwirt> leider nein
[18:56] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, It's part of the html5 suite
[18:57] <wolfgang_> :-(
[18:57] <daftykins> Kry: EFI isn't something that's going to help your situation
[18:57] <FourFire> geekmasterflash: so when FF asks me to install flash, what settings do I alter in order to force it to check for/use H.264 first?
[18:57] <BluesKaj> !de > wolfgang_
[18:57] <Fachwirt> kennst du noch einen anderen Linux Chat in Deutsch?
[18:57] <gordonjcp> !de | Fachwirt
[18:57] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Ah, in that case it's a site design choice to use flash
[18:57]  * ObrienDave is going back to sleep
[18:58] <Kry> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads I got the Windows host from here
[18:58] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Even though it would probably work without it, they are going to require it.
[18:58] <viju> This what my Network.conf and interfaces look like - http://pastebin.com/FRicuYQ2
[18:58] <Kry> x86/amd64
[18:58] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Or at least someone they claims to be flash like gnash
[18:58] <FourFire> would zykotick9 's suggestion work in that case then?
[18:58] <viju> could somebody tell what's wrong with that I can't see networkmanager?
[18:58] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Worth a shot, maybe
[18:59] <FourFire> can you kindly direct me to a tutorial in installing gnash then?
[18:59] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, sudo apt-get install gnash
[18:59] <geekmasterflash> FourFire, Then just disable flash in FireFox and make sure gnash is enabled.
[19:00] <FourFire> heh I forget that everything is so simple in Linux
[19:00] <daftykins> Kry: x86/amd64 is 32/64-bit - you can only have had one. also what do you mean 'Windows host' ? you want to use ubuntu in virtualbox on a Windows OS?
[19:00] <Kry> Yep, I want an Ubuntu64 on my Windows 7 host
[19:01] <daftykins> Kry: ok, so if you boot back into Windows can you click Start -> right click 'Computer' and select 'Properties' then tell me whether it's 32 or 64-bit Windows 7 and what the model # of the processor is?
[19:01] <Kry> 64 bit windows
[19:02] <daftykins> Kry: you're looking now and are reading it for certain?
[19:02] <geekmasterflash> Kry, Also... would this not be a better question for VMWare directly? Is there some specific failure Ubuntu is having or is failing to let you run anything in VM?
[19:02] <daftykins> geekmasterflash: *virtualbox
[19:03] <Kry> I installed everything in 64 bit so far :D
[19:03] <Kry> It's K50I or K50L ASUS btw
[19:03] <daftykins> Kry: i'm after the processor model # from the System window.
[19:04] <viju> Hello again any idea about http://pastebin.com/FRicuYQ2?
[19:04] <wafflejock> Kry: when you create the new virtual box instance in virtual box for installing linux did you pick linux 64 bit
[19:04] <viju> How to get back NetworkManager?
[19:05] <daftykins> viju: your paste expired
[19:05] <Kry> It says I'm having 2 T6570's (I think it's a dual core)
[19:05] <zykotick9> viju: consider paste.ubuntu.com for your next one...
[19:05] <viju> Though it says NetworkManager is already running but it doesn't show up in the taskbar
[19:05] <daftykins> Kry: ok so your processor does support Intel VT-x as mentioned here: http://ark.intel.com/products/42841/
[19:06] <geekmasterflash> viju, What DE are you using?
[19:06] <zykotick9> viju: have you tried running nm-applet
[19:06] <viju> DE?
[19:06] <daftykins> Kry: so as wafflejock is asking, when you create a new virtual machine, are you selected 32-bit or 64-bit and what ISO are you trying to use to run in this VM?
[19:06] <geekmasterflash> viju, Desktop enviroment. like unity, gnome, kde...
[19:06] <daftykins> *selecting
[19:06] <genii> daftykins: They forgot to put a space before the question mark so it became part of the url
[19:06] <viju> unity
[19:06] <Kry> A moment please
[19:07] <geekmasterflash> viju, as zykotick9 pointed out have you run nm-applet from cli?
[19:07] <viju> I have no idea what that is
[19:07] <geekmasterflash> viju, open a terminal and put in nm-applet and press enter
[19:07] <geekmasterflash> viju, Check if the network icon shows up after
[19:07] <viju> I just tried to run sudo pppoeconf and networkmanager disappeared
[19:07] <daftykins> genii: heh ah yes of course :>
[19:09] <Kry> Yes, I indeed tried to create a 32 bit VM
[19:09] <Kry> Thanks for your help
[19:09] <daftykins> Kry: ok so try a 64-bit with a 64-bit ISO
[19:09] <Kry> At the school computers it wasn't even a question :P
[19:09] <daftykins> and a 32-bit with a 32-bit ISO
[19:10] <daftykins> school? what question? :)
[19:10] <WiGust> Hey. I have an external hard drive. If it mounted need to startup services on boot, else don't. How can I do this?
[19:10] <Kry> At school there are only 32 bit computers, and I thought the VBox is the same
[19:10] <wafflejock> Kry: yeah maybe was all 32 bit stuff
[19:10] <wafflejock> yeah same just have to mind the 64 bit business
[19:11] <posthuman> Hello ,  what is the best way to do automatic full backup on linux server ?
[19:11] <posthuman> is lvm snapshot enough ?
[19:12] <wafflejock> posthuman: I use rsync and git for my local stuff
[19:12] <Smilex> How can I check if I'm using the official Ubuntu mesa packages? I might have installed some stuff from source, and I want to check which ones are in use
[19:12] <wafflejock> posthuman: for a full server just have AWS so my only experience so far is using their interface for taking snapshots...
[19:14] <wafflejock> Smilex: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa <-  think you would just sudo apt-get install --reinstall mesa
[19:14] <posthuman> can i fully backup a running system using rsync ?
[19:14] <wafflejock> posthuman: I just use it for my www and home folders but I think if you run as root you can, would look to others for clarification though as I don't do that... my aws instance I use the console for full system snapshots
[19:15] <wafflejock> posthuman: I use clonezilla a dd wrapper for backing up my local machine to an image
[19:15] <wafflejock> but it's a manual process to some degreee
[19:15] <BluesKaj> Smilex. check in the package manager
[19:16] <Smilex> BluesKaj, the package manager disappeared after doing sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:16]  * zykotick9 thinks full backups or image backups are a waste of space.  backup your data / backup your config files = done
[19:17]  * geekmasterflash agrees with zykotick9 
[19:17] <BluesKaj> Smilex. sudo apt-get install synaptic
[19:18] <posthuman> thank u wafflejock :) and thank u zykotick9 .... so where is the benefit of using lvm over or instead of classic backup solutions
[19:18] <Smilex> BluesKaj, ok thanks
[19:18] <posthuman> while lvm is pretty "classic" too :)
[19:19] <salvatore> sera
[19:20] <Bennage_> can anyone tell me why I can't get samba4 to install on 12.04?
[19:20] <Kry> How much /boot do I need for it?
[19:21] <WiGust> Guys, is no way to depend services with mount? Mediatomb loses his database when disk wasn't plug in.
[19:23] <garshasp> oh i have to dl synaptic package manager
[19:24] <Kry> Is 100-200 MB enough for it? (Before I make LVM for the rest of the HDD?)
[19:25] <daftykins> Kry: if all you're doing is testing it out, select use entire disk
[19:25] <Kry> I want to test Dota2 on Ubuntu
[19:25] <WiGust> Kry: 100 usually enough
[19:25] <Kry> I've allowed 20GB hard disk for it so far
[19:25] <Kry> 8-10 GB is Dota2
[19:26] <daftykins> Kry: you're not going to be able to play a game in a VM
[19:26] <daftykins> Kry: or is this a real native install now?
[19:26] <Kry> It's a VM
[19:27] <Kry> Not Native so far
[19:28] <daftykins> Kry: then you won't get a Steam game going in it
[19:28] <daftykins> it won't work properly
[19:28] <wafflejock> Kry: yeah really you're not gonna get the same performance if you can get it working through the VM, you'll be using whatever graphics capability virtual box can pass along, but it's not going to be the same
[19:28] <Kry> I don't really need that
[19:28] <Kry> It's only for test so far, 128 VRAM is enough so far
[19:29] <jhutchins_wk> Kry: No good reason for a seperate /boot
[19:29] <wafflejock> Kry: well I'm thinking GPU wise you're going to run into problems, you can give it a shot and it may very well work, but I wouldn't be too shocked if you run into problems
[19:29] <Kry> I can't get LVM to work on Ubuntu so far, isn't it included?
[19:30] <toyotapie> Help, when I try to sign up for the new ubuntu forums site it says "That username is already in use or does not meet the administrator's standards. If you are ubuntu.com and you have forgotten your password, click here." I've tried about 10 different email addresses and it won't accept anything.
[19:30] <daftykins> you don't even need LVM for your test
[19:31] <Kry> What if I plan to install it native?
[19:33] <daftykins> Kry: well what do you believe LVM is going to do for you that you'll miss without?
[19:33] <Kry> Point taken. Then I need only a swap+free space, right?
[19:34] <daftykins> Kry: yep a standard super simple partitioning scheme would be EXT4 root (/) and swap
[19:34] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:34] <cristian_c> I've installed bustle
[19:34] <cristian_c> After I've launched it, I've got this message: 'No diagram loaded' 'Having saved the output of bustle-dbus-monitor' to a file , open that file to see a sequence diagram of D-Bus activity.'
[19:34] <cristian_c> How I solve this?
[19:35] <cristian_c> I've also installed graphviz
[19:35] <daftykins> cristian_c: sounds pretty straightforward, so you've got to create a file first?
[19:35] <daftykins> cristian_c: so running bustle-dbus-monitor creates a file presumably...?
[19:36] <Smilex> Could it be an issue that I have libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental and libgl1-mesa-dri installed?
[19:37] <Kry> Thanks for your help
[19:37] <WiGust> Is systemd stable like on other systems? What if I will replace init.d to systemd?
[19:38] <cristian_c> daftykins, I've tried to launch bustle-dbus-monitor but error appears again :(
[19:38] <leptone> can someone link me to an article that will let me access the files in my  Macintosh HD from Ubuntu on my dual boot system
[19:39] <daftykins> cristian_c: the same one? perhaps you need to read up on how these programs are used
[19:39] <daftykins> leptone: i hear reading HFS+ is in its' infancy and requires some pretty nasty changes. your best bet is to have another disk and swap files between them over NTFS or something else
[19:39] <cristian_c> daftykins, the same one :(
[19:40] <leptone> daftykins, ive done it before on a previous installation....
[19:40] <geekmasterflash> leptone, Have you installed hfsprogs?
[19:40] <leptone> geekmasterflash, no.
[19:40] <daftykins> leptone: then unfortunately i can't function as a human google interface for you ;)
[19:41] <leptone> daftykins, np. worth a shot :)
[19:41] <cristian_c> daftykins, ok, I've tried man bustle
[19:41] <cristian_c> daftykins, 'You  should  generate  a dump using bustle-dbus-monitor (N.B. not dbus-
[19:41] <cristian_c>        monitor) and pass its filename as an argument to this command.'
[19:41] <phillyj> is this the right place to get some some help using cURL?
[19:41] <geekmasterflash> leptone, sudo apt-get install hfsprogs and then you can mount the disk with sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,rw (dev) (mount point)
[19:43] <Kry> Do I need an anti-virus software for it?
[19:43] <Smilex> What xserver version comes with Ubuntu 13.10?
[19:45] <zykotick9> !info xorg | Smilex does this help?  does 7.7 make sense?
[19:46] <Smilex> zykotick9, I'm getting 1:7.2.0-0ubuntu10
[19:46] <starbuck> hi all, what does follwoing line mean? allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128
[19:46] <starbuck> in particular, the last numbers after the two colons
[19:46] <Smilex> but I'm more interested in this "(EE) module ABI major version (13) doesn't match the server's version (14)". I seem to have version 14, but a driver for version 13
[19:47] <Hetal> I have a program that crashes a lot but it is essential to stay on in my Ubuntu server
[19:47] <Hetal> Is it possible to make that crash into a restart?
[19:47] <Hetal> With some bashing script
[19:48] <maico> Hetal, you might reverse engineer that program first
[19:51] <Hetal> Maico : how do I do that, I am still new to Ubuntu
[19:53] <maico> Hetal, there are several programming tools availeble from ubuntu software center, but i remind you that reverse engineering is a long and painstaking process, so you can better decide if the program stays usefull.
[19:53] <Drognan> I use eth1 for packet capture only, what should I do so I don't have to do "ifconfig eth1 up" after a reboot?
[19:54] <Hetal> maico : Every time the program crashes, I want Ubuntu to do pkill php then screen ./start.sh
[19:54] <Kihokki> Hi! I'm having trouble on setting my sh-script to run on crontab, I've put this into my crontab: * * * * * /var/www/sosiaalisuus/run.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 but it isn't work
[19:54] <zykotick9> Drognan: if you aren't using N-M for this device, you could configure it in /etc/networks/interfaces and include an "auto eth1" line (which means, bring it up on boot automatically)
[19:55] <Drognan> thanks
[19:55] <reisio> Kihokki: define work
[19:55] <maico> Hetal : i suggest to unistall the entire program, then reinstall a fresh download with opt-get.
[19:55] <Kry> ONBOOT="yes" should be changed to "no"
[19:55] <Kihokki> reisio, you mean what's inside the run.sh?
[19:55] <zykotick9> maico: is opt-get a real thing?
[19:56] <Hetal> maico : Its not the programs fault, the RAM sometimes gets overused
[19:56] <Danato> whats the login keyring for?
[19:56] <Kihokki> reisio, this is inside run.sh: #!/bin/sh
[19:56] <Kihokki> java -Djava.awt.headless=true -classpath .:./lib/pircbot.jar org.jibble.socnet.SocialNetworkBot ./config.ini
[19:56] <zykotick9> Danato: login keyring?  what?  never heard of it.
[19:57] <reisio> Kihokki: does it work if you run it itself?
[19:57] <Danato> zykotick9: right when you login, theres a login keyring that you have to enter the password. what is it for?
[19:57] <Kihokki> reisio, yes it does
[19:57] <reisio> Kihokki: as root or your user?
[19:57] <Kihokki> as root
[19:57] <zykotick9> Danato: do you have autologin enabled?  if so, disable that, then you won't be propted for keyring.
[19:57] <reisio> Kihokki: and you're talking about root's crontab? (sudo crontab -l)
[19:58] <tyler_d> Danato, permissions and passwords for your user. it sounds broken if it doesn't unlock at ;login though.
[19:58] <zykotick9> tyler_d: see by message above ;)
[19:58] <Kihokki> reisio, yes, the command is still in there
[19:58] <reisio> Kihokki: okay, and you ran chmod +x run.sh ?
[19:58] <Kihokki> yes, otherwise it wouldn't run
[19:59] <reisio> Kihokki: okay, and is there a shebang?
[19:59] <Danato> zykotick9: How do i know if its enabled? I do have to login (enter username and password) at startup
[19:59] <Kihokki> reisio, on the run.sh? yes, #!/bin/sh
[20:00] <FourFire> geekmasterflash: I'm still having trouble, do I need to first install flash in order to disable it and then enable gnash ?
[20:00] <zykotick9> Danato: oh, then something is wrong!  keyring SHOULD be unlocked at login, as tyler_d stated.  sorry, i don't have any suggestions.
[20:00] <reisio> Kihokki: does the java command work as root from any location?
[20:00] <reisio> Kihokki: cd /tmp/ first, for example
[20:01] <zykotick9> Danato: actually, if you've changed your password, that might explain your issue...
[20:01] <Kihokki> reisio, yes it does
[20:01] <Danato> zykotick9: somehow I think it was enabled. on Login Screen settings (LightDM) there was "Automatically log in: As user: Danato
[20:02] <reisio> Kihokki: okay, what does the command actually do?
[20:02] <Danato> zykotick9: but i still had to enter my password and username at startup, and no, i ddnt change my password
[20:02] <reisio> Kihokki: and is it important to call the shell script rather than the command itself
[20:03] <zykotick9> Danato: you'll have to enter your password once, no matter what.  so turn that autologin crap (family friendly word for it) off.  best of luck.
[20:03] <Kihokki> reisio, launches an irc bot which visualizes social networks inside a channel, and I haven't tried that yet
[20:03] <Danato> zykotick9: jst did, thanks
[20:03] <Level15> hi, all. question, i am running win2k under kvm + libvirtd. Network speed between host and guest is way too slow. I tried changing the nic type to virtio, but it seems newer virtio drivers for windows do not support win2k. Any hints?
[20:04] <reisio> Level15: besides not wasting your time with it? :/
[20:04] <AlexPortable> Can I open .docx now?
[20:04] <reisio> AlexPortable: now and for years past
[20:04] <reisio> bask in the glory of your terrible binary format :p
[20:04] <Level15> reisio: yeah, besides that :P
[20:04] <zykotick9> AlexPortable: i've had "some" success opening them in LibreOffice YMMV
[20:04] <reisio> Kihokki: it all sounds fine, you could check that /bin/sh actually exists
[20:05] <reisio> Kihokki: otherwise I'd say double check the stuff I already mentioned, and the path
[20:05] <reisio> Kihokki: it's usually one of those things
[20:05] <zykotick9> reisio: i'd hate to see the system without /bin/sh ;)
[20:05] <reisio> Kihokki: it could also be that you java is all hung up, ps aux | grep -i java might help you out there
[20:05] <reisio> zykotick9: I dare say so would Kihokki :p
[20:06] <AlexPortable> reisio: they always tend to mess up the layout
[20:06] <reisio> AlexPortable: nah
[20:06] <reisio> AlexPortable: but if you really cared about layout, you would use an awful proprietary binary format
[20:06] <AlexPortable> ...
[20:07] <AlexPortable> Tell that to my professors at the university
[20:07] <reisio> AlexPortable: give me their numbers
[20:07] <zykotick9> reisio: s/would/wouldn't/ i hope?!
[20:07] <AlexPortable> reisio: i dont have their numbers
[20:07] <reisio> zykotick9: yes wouldn't
[20:07] <reisio> AlexPortable: give me their home addresses and social security numbers
[20:08] <reisio> you can probably make an awful pdf and name the file foo.docx.pdf
[20:08] <reisio> and their awful OS won't even allow them to see that it isn't a .docx really
[20:08] <Beldar> AlexPortable, I use MS word only for the exact reasons you suggest on my papers.
[20:09] <reisio> what do you really expect to learn from someone who irrationally requires you to use a specific format generated a specific way by a specific product
[20:09]  * reisio AFKs for a bit
[20:09] <AlexPortable> Beldar: yes, but ms word won't run on ubuntu
[20:09] <Rory> !wine
[20:10] <Beldar> reisio, If the papers do not render correctly that is a specious argument
[20:10] <Kry> What version is "Maverick"?
[20:10] <Beldar> AlexPortable, I have W8.1 just for that I got it really cheap with a student discount.
[20:10] <reisio> Beldar: if 'correctly' is defined as that which is irrational, it is
[20:11] <reisio> what you said, that is :)
[20:11] <reisio> Kry: 10.10
[20:12] <Beldar> reisio, In your reality, in a academic environment that kind of trouble is not acceptable.
[20:12] <reisio> Beldar: I agree, they shouldn't make such ridiculous requiements
[20:13] <garshasp> beldar forced wubi to 32 bit
[20:13] <garshasp> solved issue
[20:14] <Kihokki> reisio, I found this when I runned ps aux | grep -i java: root     24580 24579  0 Nov26 pts/0    00:00:00 [java] <defunct>
[20:14] <flandrs> im on precise and i am attempting to do a custom build of libvirt1.1.4 from a PPA source, but i want to roll my own packages for deployment. is there a technique for downloading all dependencies (and subdependencies) from PPA that are needed that cannot be found locally but not install them
[20:14] <reisio> Kihokki: okay
[20:14] <Beldar> reisio, As long as the papers render correctly they should use what ever works, I started on  open source and use it 99% of the time, my papers are all emailed and are rather complex and long so it is a matter of avoiding any hassles for me.
[20:14] <reisio> Kihokki: you actually want it to run every minute?
[20:15] <Beldar> garshasp, I forget the exact problem.
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> flandrs  i guess it depends on the ppa, you should ask the maintainer
[20:15] <AlexPortable> Beldar: I need office mostly
[20:15] <Kihokki> reisio, Actually I would only like that my script would run in background and start automatically if it crashes
[20:15] <Smilex> In "/opt/xorg/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/" I have ati_drv.so and radeon_drv.so, which would be the correct one for the open source driver?
[20:15] <AlexPortable> or wait
[20:15] <reisio> Beldar: sure, but there is obviously no 'correctly' for a format like docs, otherwise 3rd party implementations would have no trouble rendering "correctly"
[20:15] <reisio> Kihokki: okay, well then cron is the wrong tool
[20:15] <Kry> A good IRC client that works on the latest Ubuntu?
[20:16] <garshasp> Beldar, i was using netbootin and was going to replace win mbr with custom grub
[20:16] <reisio> Kihokki: you want a init script / upstart service file
[20:16] <reisio> Kry: XChat
[20:16] <flandrs> Kry: irssi
[20:16] <Kry> I will try XChat, thanks
[20:16] <Kry> The current one has KDE error :S
[20:16] <reisio> Kry: you using KDE?
[20:17] <Kry> Dunno, I think its GNOME
[20:18] <Kry> I'm quite new to Linux systems, I thought KDE is for Kubuntu
[20:18] <Beldar> reisio, The problem is I think is that word the most commonly used has different code then say OO or libre, in some cases it is okay, on all of my papers I have opened them with libre and visa versa and they were different missing some things and the font is off, I would rather use open source nbut can't risk it really.
[20:18] <Kihokki> reisio, which one is easier to set up?
[20:19] <dman777_alter> I have a python script that runs conncurent api calls...like 8 at a time. I get connection errors with more than api call at a time. Is there a threshold on ubunutu that limits the concurent connections for outgoing?
[20:20] <Beldar> garshasp, Ah you were doing an install without any recovery or install to repair windows, heh I never questioned so much whether you could do this but if you jhave a problem with the tools to fix what you have you will still have a brick.
[20:20] <Beldar> without*
[20:21] <reisio> Kihokki: well you want an upstart service
[20:21] <guest123124> hello, can anyone help with fn keys problem? i have tryed grub settings like acpi_backlight=vendor and similar, non helps
[20:21] <reisio> Kihokki: I'm not familiar with the terminology
[20:22] <reisio> Beldar: you could, if your professors didn't have silly requirements :)
[20:22] <Beldar> AlexPortable, You can use word in wine, but I have not really tested it to make sure that us adequate. I would think you have the student discounts on MS like I did.
[20:22] <Kry> I can't get XChat to run
[20:22] <Kry> I try to run it, but nothing happens
[20:23] <Pici> Kry: How did you install it? How are you trying to run it?
[20:23] <geekmasterflash> Beldar, The last version of Word to work well with wine was 2007
[20:23] <Beldar> reisio, silly requirements makes no sense in the real world is all, I say that with respect for your skills. ;)
[20:23] <tonyt> kvirc is another alternative to xchat btw
[20:23] <reisio> Beldar: I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not
[20:23] <Kry> I've downloaded a portable version, I "unzipped" or whatevered it, and tried to run the XChat x-executable in the bin folder
[20:23] <Pici> Beldar, reisio: Can you guys move the philosophical discussion elsewhere?
[20:23] <reisio> Beldar: requiring .docx is a silly requirement
[20:23] <Beldar> 1010 works I believe I ran it geekmasterflash
[20:24] <Pici> Kry: You should install it from the Ubuntu repositories.
[20:24] <Kry> KVirc has KDE error
[20:24] <reisio> Kry: mmm you should use the package manager
[20:24] <Pici> Kry: You should always try to do that before installing from any other source.
[20:24] <reisio> Kry: not download random files and run them
[20:24] <Pici> !osftware | Kry
[20:24] <Pici> !software | Kry
[20:24] <Beldar> Pici, No problem, sorry about that.
[20:25] <guest123124> so can anyone help me with fn-keys problem? everything works except brightness and screen switching. Tryed messing with grub and still nothing
[20:26] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, sorry 2010
[20:26] <Kry> How do I get terminal in latest version?
[20:26] <geekmasterflash> Beldar, I presumed, though an Old English version of world would be awesome.
[20:27] <Beldar> ;)
[20:27] <daftykins> Kry: run terminal :>
[20:27] <daftykins> Kry: pressing ctrl+alt+t is a good shortcut
[20:27] <guest324> can a program for 13.04 be easily installed in 13.04 whilst in 13.10
[20:27] <Kry> shortcut works, thanks
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> Beldar, According to WineHQ (which should always be looked at with suspicion) Word 2002 is the only gold level certified version. The rest are mostly garbage.
[20:28] <geekmasterflash> guest324, Can you be more specific?
[20:28] <Rory> guest324: Not sure what you mean by that
[20:28] <geekmasterflash> guest324, Are you asking if you can install a 13.04 program in 13.10?
[20:28] <guest324> Rory, more out of curiosity, is it possible to not have to reboot into 13.04.  can i stay in 13.10
[20:28] <guest324> geekmasterflash, no
[20:29] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, yeah, like I said I had it working but did not test it, I did not trust it on writing grad papers.
[20:29] <Rory> guest324: You have both 13.04 and 13.10 dual-booted on your system, and you are current in 13.10. You wish to administer your 13.04 system without rebooting?
[20:29] <Beldar> I would not use wine for anything anyway
[20:29] <guest324> Rory, yes
[20:30] <geekmasterflash> Beldar, Eh, I can get games to work pretty well :D
[20:30] <Rory> guest324: Yes you can mount the 13.04 partition and chroot into it... but why?
[20:31] <guest324> Rory, to avoid rebooting into 13.04
[20:31] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, I don't game so not an issue for me.
[20:31] <hitsujiTMO> geekmasterflash: Beldar why use office in wine when there's free native alternatives?
[20:32] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, YOU have missed the points, and we have been asked by the OPS to take this elsewhere.
[20:32] <guest123124> can anyone exlain me why in xev fn+f2,f3,f4 does not work while other fn keys works?
[20:32] <Rory> guest324: You could have done it by now
[20:32] <geekmasterflash> hitsujiTMO, Oh, I agree, but apparently there is some formatting that OpenOffice can't emulate.
[20:32] <reisio> as he already said, his professors fail him if characters aren't kerned properly
[20:32] <Mojo_Jojo> *shudders* office X_X, try the libreoffice suite, Ubuntu comes with it.
[20:32] <reisio> guest123124: /nick xevguy
[20:32] <Kry> It says No package found by the name xchat.XChat-GNOME or something like this
[20:32] <reisio> guest123124: what are they supposed to do?
[20:33] <guest324> Rory, there's more implications besides the time to complete the task, of course
[20:33] <reisio> Kry: what says?
[20:33] <Kry> Terminal
[20:33] <picca> Kry: i wouldn't bother with the GNOME version of Xchat
[20:33] <guest324> there are*
[20:33] <Kry> When I try to install XChat manually
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> geekmasterflash: i meant kingsoft
[20:33] <Rory> guest324: I won't pry. Mount the partition that 13.04 is on to a known location, and chroot into it to install your software or do whatever
[20:33] <reisio> geekmasterflash: it can emulate anything, but at a certain point it becomes a waste of time to emulate undocumented peculiarities of a proprietary format
[20:33] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Sorry for the caps I type to fast and my first words get capped at times.
[20:33] <reisio> Kry: with what command
[20:33] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: np
[20:33] <Rory> !chroot | guest324
[20:33] <Kry> apt-get install xchat.XChat-GNOME
[20:34] <guest123124> umm fn with f2 and f3 for brightness control and f4 for switching into projector
[20:34] <dry[1]> hi. I have new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Is there any change in permissions that don't allow other files to access subdirectories? I haven't change anything and my php code stopped working on new ubuntu. Description: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20223340/php-access-to-directory-from-file
[20:34] <guest324> Rory, thanks, good to know
[20:34] <reisio> Kry: just apt-get install xchat
[20:34] <reisio> Kry: or apt-get install xchat-gnome
[20:34] <picca> Kry: are you really wanting to use xchat or xchat-gnome?
[20:34] <reisio> Kry: trivially different packages
[20:35] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, I ran the bootinfoscript - No UUID issues
[20:35] <zykotick9> reisio: xchat-gnome was a major 'fail' for me, back in the day (when i was still using xchat) ;)  "trivially differnt" isn't accurate IMO ;)
[20:35] <Surkow|laptop> still got the ALERT /dev/diskby-uuid/ does not exist. Dropping to shell
[20:36] <reisio> zykotick9: yeah, but it is regardless :p
[20:36] <MVanDruff> i am so beyond ready to throw this thing out of the window and i live on a third story
[20:36] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: can you see the /dev/diskby-uuid directory navigating there manually?
[20:36] <reisio> MVanDruff: so why haven't you
[20:37] <MVanDruff> cause i need the internets
[20:37] <wafflejock> MVanDruff: roof test?
[20:37] <Sach> Upgraded to 13.04. USB mouse works but not the touchpad. Any ideas?
[20:37] <reisio> MVanDruff: :)
[20:37] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, I can do that from initramfs busybox in grub? or do I have to boot into a live usb disk again?
[20:37] <MVanDruff> the stupid computer still doesnt want to recognise my soundblaster card
[20:37] <kry_> It worked, Thanks
[20:37] <MVanDruff> it says its there but doesnt want to output
[20:38] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: was curious when it drops you to command line if you can cd to /dev and see the device or not, dmesg may lead to some more info too
[20:38] <hitsujiTMO> sach did you hit fn + f9 or whatever else acpi key that you have that toggles the touchpad?
[20:39] <MVanDruff> has my 11 year old behemoth finally become incompatible with life?
[20:39] <Beldar> MVanDruff, Lots of linux that will run on it that is supported.
[20:40] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, I boot via grub the "ubuntu" entry, it can find all hardware and tries to boot from the disk. I end up with a busybox prompt saying (initramfs). I can browse to dev but there is no /diskby-uuid directory in there.
[20:40] <MVanDruff> it worked fine like a week ago
[20:40] <reisio> MVanDruff: 11? Ouch
[20:40] <Sach> hitsujiTMO: fn + f7 in my case. even that doesnt work. When using 12.10, I use easily switch between touchpad and usb simply by using either (I culd even use both at the same time)
[20:41] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: does sudo fdisk -l show the drives?
[20:41] <MVanDruff> what can i say reisio i am broke. and the fact that i just got laid off doesnt make things easier
[20:41] <Surkow|laptop> wafflejock, it lacks most binaries - including fdisk
[20:41] <Surkow|laptop> it's just busybox
[20:41] <Mojo_Jojo> Easy to build a half decent system from scrap or free parts ^_^
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> Surkow|laptop: can you give us more details. did you change any config or modify hardware?
[20:42] <wafflejock> Surkow|laptop: ah okay just shooting spitballs here
[20:42] <MVanDruff> mojo noone has free parts
[20:42] <Surkow|laptop> hitsujiTMO, I previously talked to him about the issue - which is why I haven't started from scratch again.
[20:42] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, Have you tried all the kernels in your grub menu?
[20:42] <Surkow|laptop> I have installed mint 15 and ubuntu 13.10 - both refuse to boot from new installs.
[20:42] <reisio> MVanDruff: awe, that wrapped after 'laid', thought it was going to be a happy story :p
[20:42] <reisio> MVanDruff: what's the problem?
[20:42] <Surkow|laptop> there are no older kernels in grub
[20:43] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, Ah, new installs failing.
[20:43] <Surkow|laptop> it's a dell xps 13 laptop which was working fine with ubutu 13.04
[20:43] <Surkow|laptop> yes
[20:43] <Surkow|laptop> any linux distro with a new kernel seems to fail
[20:43] <wafflejock> yeah basically he keeps running into the same can't find his drive by uuid problem
[20:43] <wafflejock> found a script that apparently used blkid and was supposed to fix the boot problems but ran to no avail
[20:44] <Surkow|laptop> mint gives me: kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0), while ubuntu tells me "ALERT /dev/diskby-uuid/ does not exist. Dropping to shell"
[20:44] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, how big is the HD?
[20:44] <Surkow|laptop> I have checked grub and it boots from the correct partition
[20:44] <Surkow|laptop> 250GB
[20:44] <Surkow|laptop> SSD drive, samsung 830
[20:45] <FourFire> hello hitsujiTMO I am here again
[20:45] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, I forget the instance, but there are times when grub can't read past 100 or so gigs, try a smaller partition
[20:45] <hitsujiTMO> Surkow|laptop: can you tell us what mountpoints are currently mounted: mount
[20:45] <FourFire> I generated the second file like you asked me to yesterday
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: can you pastebin them both again please
[20:46] <MVanDruff> did they remove my opensource drivers in the update
[20:46] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, hitsujiTMO http://pastebin.com/hZg2yskh - this shows the partitions detected while running the ubuntu live usb image.
[20:46] <Surkow|laptop> I am currently stuck in busybox after grub failed to boot ubuntu
[20:46] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: Old
[20:47] <FourFire> http://pastebin.com/fNaD621G
[20:47] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: new http://pastebin.com/pbCMV7q3
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> Surkow|laptop: mount should work in busybox. can you tell us if /dev is mounted
[20:48] <Surkow|laptop> hitsujiTMO, /dev shows me tty1-63 (and more variations), ram, vcsa and many other random things. It doesn't show any discs
[20:48] <Sach> Upgraded to 13.04. USB mouse works but not the touchpad. Any ideas?
[20:49] <Luxilius> need help im noob how to protect ubuntu 12.04 LTS desktop . every time someone with MITM spy me. please how to protect my system.
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Surkow|laptop: sounds like the kernel does not support your chipset/sata controller
[20:49] <hitsujiTMO> Surkow|laptop: what chipset do you have?
[20:49] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, Did this computer come with W7?
[20:49] <aguitel> any tips to install epson scanner cx 5600 ?
[20:50] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, yes. hitsujiTMO I'll have to figure that out. It worked fine with 13.10
[20:50] <geekmasterflash> Luxilius, Why do you believe you are being the target of a man in the middle?
[20:50] <Surkow|laptop> it does not use uefi, but has a normal bios
[20:50] <Surkow|laptop> *13.04
[20:50] <geekmasterflash> Luxilius, And by definition, it's between you and whom you are connecting to
[20:51] <Sach> Problem fixed.  I needed sudo modprobe -r psmouse sudo modprobe psmouse
[20:51] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, I don't know what question hitsujiTMO asked you, mine was did this come with W7?
[20:51] <brian___> why might I not be able to login to a remote server with ssh -T, but can without?
[20:51] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, yes it came with windows 7 and still contains it. Linux is part of an extended partition.
[20:53] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, It is installed as efi, there is some problem there, the boot script is not showing a gpt detected, but I suspect it has a gpt partition table.
[20:54] <brian___> i can ssh with root into the box, but the second i put -T flag on, i get a time out. Any ideas?
[20:54] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: this is the diff of whats in the old but not the new: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6480980/
[20:54] <zykotick9> brian___: if you can connect as "root" your setup is VERY broken...
[20:54] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, A ubuntu efi install has to have a efi boot partition you don;t have one
[20:54] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, it uses an older bios. But you are thinking ...ah
[20:54] <Surkow|laptop> that explains it
[20:54] <brian___> it's for a VM
[20:55] <brian___> a local vm, and it's not MY setup, it's password less root with authorized keys
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> FourFire: a lot of it is version changes so might not be so good to go on
[20:56] <dman777_alter> how can I install python 2.7.5 without removing 2.6.5?
[20:57] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, I have no idea of a fix though, I'm not really up on this area, the sda1 is a fat it looks like a uefi computer, except the W7 is a msdos install, rather strange really.
[20:57] <motaka2> I try to install sqlite for php and I get this error:  http://codepaste.net/3gmco1
[20:58] <motaka2> can anyone help me?
[20:58] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, the first partition is the dell utility partition
[20:58] <Surkow|laptop> i.e. dell special tools that you can't delete for warranty reasons
[20:58] <MVanDruff> waffle what was the command you had me run to check pci devices
[20:58] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, Right but it is a fat, msdos install have the firmware in a ntfs.
[20:59] <brian___> dman777_alter: you can install multiple pythons.
[20:59] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, uefi's have that fat as the first partition, thats why it looks strange to me.
[20:59] <zykotick9> Surkow|laptop: i supported compaq machines for many years.  that's an OLD system - if it has that horrible utilities partition...
[20:59] <Surkow|laptop> zykotick9, the device is one year old
[21:00] <Surkow|laptop> it's a top of the line Dell xps 13 ;)
[21:00] <zykotick9> Surkow|laptop: really?  so that's HP really...  best of luck regardless.
[21:00] <Surkow|laptop> thanks :D.  I spent three full days on this already. I might attempt a clean 13.04 install to see if the problem goes away.
[21:01] <zykotick9> Surkow|laptop: honest to goodness, some compaq machines had a bios/utilties partition - it was madness, but those would be "antiques" in computer terms...
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: efi system partition have a type of ef00 (or ef in mbr) the part has a type of de
[21:01] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, Is grub booting the windows?
[21:01] <FourFire> hitsujiTMO: yeah I guess I don't need any of the Linux kernels or header files older than what I'm using right now
[21:01] <Surkow|laptop> Beldar, I have been reading some ubuntu documentation. Yes it boots windows fine. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[21:01] <Surkow|laptop> "- If the BIOS is NOT set up to boot the CD in EFI mode, or if the disk is not 64-bit, then you will see the screen below: "
[21:01] <FourFire> should I just delete those by hand?
[21:01] <Surkow|laptop> so it doesn't boot into efi mode
[21:02] <Surkow|laptop> (since I see the purple screen)
[21:02] <Surkow|laptop> zykotick9, I have supported a couple hundred dell computers at a service desk
[21:02] <Surkow|laptop> luckily I never had to debug linux with it ;)
[21:03] <zykotick9> Surkow|laptop: lol, i worked for Dell too... </ot>
[21:03] <dman777_alter> how can I do a apt-get pretend to see what version python it would pull in?
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> dman777_alter: -s
[21:04] <Surkow|laptop> I'll take a break from this and attempt a clean 13.04 install. I'll annoy you guys later on again ;)
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> dman777_alter: or you can see the package info with: apt-cache show <packagename>
[21:04] <dman777_alter> hitsujiTMO: thanks
[21:05] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, In the script I see a notation to a gpt partition table I believe it is a strange set up at the least.
[21:06] <Beldar> or efi anyway
[21:07] <ThomasBS> i've installed ZNC on my server, how do I open the 6667 port? :( I've searched and searched .. Using 13.10
[21:07] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: thats on sdb which i presume is the install media
[21:08] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, lok in the grub config area
[21:08] <Beldar> efi all over the place
[21:08] <geekmasterflash> ThomasBS, The port is likely open on your computer less you have installed a firewall software
[21:09] <geekmasterflash> ThomasBS, You probably need to open it on your router/modem
[21:09] <zykotick9> ThomasBS: have you added firewall permissions?  if not, then run the service = port opened
[21:09] <geekmasterflash> ThomasBS, Or port forward
[21:09] <ThomasBS> yes I've added firewall permissions
[21:09] <ThomasBS> with the iptables.firewall.rules
[21:09] <ThomasBS> do i need to reboot the server if I just the rules file?
[21:10] <ThomasBS> if I changed*
[21:10] <geekmasterflash> ThomasBS, Shouldn't need a reboot. Maybe just a restart of the service
[21:10] <GTB3NW> Hi I'm currently having issues with any desktop environment running under any ubuntu distro
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: they're just search params, theres entries for both bios + efi for those: --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos6
[21:11] <GTB3NW> I use a R.A.T 9 mouse but the tutorials to fix "known" issues with the mouse do not fix my issue
[21:11] <GTB3NW> nor is it as described in any of the tutorials
[21:11] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, What is your issue, exactly?
[21:11] <GTB3NW> essentially I cannot interact with any windows (xfwm, gnome etc)
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, because?
[21:12] <GTB3NW> I have no idea, that's why I'm here
[21:12] <GTB3NW> I've tried other mice as well..
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Keyboard not working either?
[21:12] <GTB3NW> keyboard is A-OK
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, USB?
[21:13] <GTB3NW> yes
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Both are?
[21:13] <GTB3NW> Correct
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Switch them
[21:13] <GTB3NW> I have
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, See if you've got dead ports
[21:13] <GTB3NW> Ports are okay as well
[21:13] <GTB3NW> I have some ID's on the mouse for buttons which are "unknown"
[21:14] <wesley_> Holler, is there someone dutch who can help me ?
[21:14] <GTB3NW> the guides to fix the mouse say add the ID's, however there's only 1 ID
[21:14] <GTB3NW> but.. lots of them
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> !nl
[21:14] <GTB3NW> as in it displays the same ID button lots of times
[21:14] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Your right I just ran the old bootscript in trusty which I'm on right now I have all msdos, an I see the same notations.
[21:14] <Beldar> and*
[21:14] <GTB3NW> May I link you the guide geekmasterflash
[21:14] <GTB3NW> ?
[21:14] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, According to my googlefu, the RAT mouse may require a customer xorg.conf file
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> custom*
[21:15] <GTB3NW> Xmodmap you mean?
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> No
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> I mean xorg
[21:15] <geekmasterflash> http://fcns.eu/2011/04/01/cyborg-rat-7-mouse-under-linux/
[21:16] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: you might want to consider getting some startpage-fu https://startpage.com/ same results as google, without the tracking ;)
[21:16] <kry_> Thanks for your help again
[21:16] <kry_> bye
[21:16] <GTB3NW> geekmasterflash, thanks for that link
[21:17] <GTB3NW> anyway I can add that to my liveCD?
[21:17] <GTB3NW> currently can't get onto a browser if I'm in the OS
[21:17] <GTB3NW> let alone get to that and copy and paste haha
[21:18] <Danato> how do i fix an over sensitive touchpad? it taps when i dont want to, making me close and click things accidentally all the time
[21:18] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, The problem with xorg configs is that often they require a system reboot to take effect. One of the rare cases in Linux
[21:18] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Chances are from LiveCD it wouldn't take?
[21:18] <GTB3NW> hence why I want to install directly onto the liveCD rather than boot in then do it
[21:19] <Kry> Good night
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Oh, I misunderstood
[21:19] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, I suppose that would work but you might want to ask someone else
[21:19] <GTB3NW> I'm in my windows OS atm, wondering if I can just drag that somewhere onto my disk
[21:19] <GTB3NW> no worries :)
[21:19] <GTB3NW> thanks for your help
[21:19] <GTB3NW> appreciated
[21:20] <Beldar> Surkow|laptop, My argument on gpt or efi is incorrect as far as the partition table or the sda1 partition or in general.
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, Well, if you can find /etc/X11/xorg.conf in windows
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> GTB3NW, You can edit it and save it from there as well
[21:20] <GTB3NW> I wish it were simple but it wont
[21:20] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: editing xorg.conf from windows - that would be cute... or would it?
[21:20] <GTB3NW> screw it, I'll go install and hope for the best
[21:20] <GTB3NW> haha
[21:21] <GTB3NW> zykotick9, install media, probably even more annoying to do
[21:21] <GTB3NW> right, wish me luck -.-
[21:22] <Mage_Dude> Can anyone point to a good guide for user management wrt levels like admin (full), maintainer (no user management, but install/upgrade software), and basic user (locked to home more or less)?
[21:23] <zykotick9> Mage_Dude: kinda sounds like ubuntu's default setup, to me...
[21:24] <hisham> hi pleas How do I run a calculator in the Linux system
[21:25] <zykotick9> hisham: try xcalc
[21:25] <Mage_Dude> zykotick9: I've got a vanilla server install and am using some configuration management tools (ansible) and want to be able to give certain team members access to some of the managemetn tools (like upgrades) but not allow them the keys to the kingdom.
[21:25] <Screwba> all:  is there a way to install heimdal-clients without it prompting for a realm name?  I was thinking of a --no-config option to apt-get but...
[21:25] <hitsujiTMO> kisham: there's also gnome-calculator
[21:25] <zykotick9> Mage_Dude: it can be done, probably through sudoers somehow.  best of luck!  i've got nothing further, sorry.
[21:26] <reisio> hisham: 'bc' is nice if you like terms
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> Mage_Dude: you limit sudo to a set of apps for specific users/groups
[21:26] <hisham> thank you so much thanks thanks <zykotick9> <hitsujiTMO> <reisio>
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Mage_Dude: more info here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/sudo
[21:27]  * zykotick9 uses concalc from terminal, but guesses bc is better
[21:29]  * Screwba is on a roll today...2 Q's asked, 0 answers
[21:29] <He4dShOt> hi
[21:30] <He4dShOt> how can I have an external drive with ext4 to automount like my ntfs drive does?
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> heavystorm:
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> He4dShOt: you need to add an entry into fstab for it
[21:31] <He4dShOt> hitsujiTMO, I added it, but still no automount
[21:31] <reisio> He4dShOt: probably would work fine if you hadn't altered /etc/fstab
[21:31] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: really gnome/gvfs doesn't automount ext drives automatically... lame...
[21:31] <reisio> it does :)
[21:31] <zykotick9> reisio: i'd think so.
[21:31] <reisio> you probably accidentally told it not to by altering fstab
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> o.) really ?
[21:32] <reisio> you thought Unix systems had an automounter for foreign FSs but not native? :p
[21:32] <gassho> a/oha
[21:32] <reisio> a\oha
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> He4dShOt: try adding the options user,auto
[21:32] <zykotick9> reisio: i believed it, for a moment...  with gnome anything is possible ;)
[21:32] <reisio> He4dShOt: if you really want it auto mounted on _insertion_, then do not list it in fstab
[21:32] <reisio> zykotick9: heheheh
[21:33] <He4dShOt> reisio, I altered fstab because it wouldn't automount
[21:33] <dho> anybody have suggestions on how in the world to get non-stripped base libraries?
[21:33] <reisio> He4dShOt: that was the wrong course of action ;)
[21:33] <zykotick9> reisio: middle mouse click, is going away.  so really, anything is possible ;)
[21:33] <reisio> zykotick9: in gnome?
[21:33] <zykotick9> reisio: ya
[21:33] <reisio> 'cause Mac OS hasn't middle mice!
[21:33]  * reisio rolls eyes
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> He4dShOt: do you want to auto mount it permanently? or will you be removing the drive?
[21:34] <Gerbi> hi! Sorry X-chat make me come here, godd night everybody
[21:34] <He4dShOt> hitsujiTMO, I will power on the drive only when I need it
[21:35] <lonewulf85> My Acer AO722 fn+dimmer button does not work but the volume does same set of buttons the arrow keys.
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> He4dShOt: then it should not be in fstab alright.
[21:36] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: OR in fstab with noauto and user ;)
[21:37] <He4dShOt> hitsujiTMO, reisio, so what should i do?
[21:37] <reisio> He4dShOt: you should figure out why it isn't mounting
[21:37] <trism> dho: some packages have a -dbg variant, otherwise usually ddebs.ubuntu.com, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> He4dShOt: do what zykotick9 suggests add the options noauto,user to fsbab entry
[21:38] <zykotick9> He4dShOt: that WON'T automount the drive!
[21:39] <zykotick9> He4dShOt: it would - not automount the drive, but let users mount it, without sudo.
[21:39] <lonewulf85> AO722 no dim when told to please help I am running ubuntu 12.04
[21:39] <reisio> if it's not automounting, it might not do anything with fstab, either
[21:39] <He4dShOt> I think I'm missing something here...
[21:40] <zykotick9> reisio: the fstab is an alternative to the automounter...  mutually exclusive i believe...
[21:43] <reisio> zykotick9: I think I already said that
[21:43] <He4dShOt> reisio, maybe is because it's 4TB?
[21:44] <reisio> He4dShOt: maybe if you have other smaller drives that work, sure
[21:44] <HexSquid> Hi folks! I'm on ubuntu-gnome 13.10, just downloaded some updates and now I get "starting gnome display manager ... [fail] " on boot. No GUI anymore! Looking at my Xorg.2.log I've found a line (EE)  intel(0): [drm] failed to set drm interface version: Permission denied [13].
[21:44] <lonewulf85> fn and dimmer keys really anoying please help.
[21:44] <He4dShOt> reisio, the other drives are ntfs
[21:45] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, Can you tell me who owns /home/(username)/X.authority?
[21:45] <HexSquid> I'm check
[21:45] <HexSquid> I'll check
[21:45] <ZIPY> where are the vlc settings saved ? cant find /home/user/.vlc or .videolan
[21:45] <zykotick9> Hexeon: it's .Xauthority BTW
[21:45] <geekmasterflash> Woops.
[21:46] <zykotick9> Hexeon: see above
[21:46] <reisio> He4dShOt: you can do a simple test if you have a spare drive/usb stick you can format as ext
[21:46]  * zykotick9 doh! x2
[21:47] <He4dShOt> reisio, I have a 8gb usb stick
[21:48] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash - sorry, how do I check the  owner
[21:48] <HexSquid> ?
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[21:49] <HexSquid> ta
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, What hitsujiTMO
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> siad
[21:49] <geekmasterflash> said*
[21:50] <HexSquid> I get ls-w-------- myusername myusername
[21:50] <lonewulf85> Not being able to manually dim my PC is really annoying please help.
[21:50] <HexSquid> whoop, ls-rw------
[21:50] <lonewulf85> My pc is ao722-0879 my distro is Ubuntu 12.04 x64
[21:51] <HexSquid> .Xauthority appears to be empty
[21:52] <ePax> i just have installed latest drivers from ATI and my remote desktop got super slow. Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS and ati radeon HD 5450. Any ideas how to fix remote desktop?
[21:52] <zykotick9> HexSquid: it's the USER/GROUP, the stuff directly after -rw------ that's important, does it say root anywhere?
[21:53] <HexSquid> no, it was my username twice after that
[21:53] <zykotick9> HexSquid: that's good...
[21:53] <HexSquid> What are you thinking?
[21:54] <HexSquid> (appreciate the help btw - I'm doing my best via the tty and irssi)
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: whats the output of: find ~ ! -user `whoami`
[21:57] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: a wall of text appears
[21:57] <He4dShOt> reisio, I've formatted the drive in ntfs and it works on windows, but it won't work on ubunutu
[21:58] <MVanDruff> huzah!!! i fixed it even went dual screen in the process
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: you used the back tick (`) and not (') right?
[21:58] <HexSquid> Yes backtick
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: then somethings wrong there coz that should not return anything
[21:58] <HexSquid> find ~ ! -user `whoami`
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: try: sudo chown -R `whoami`:`whoami` $HOME
[22:00] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO what does that do?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Hexeon: that ensures anything in your home directory is owned by you
[22:01] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, Sorry, I was on a phone call
[22:02] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash no sweat
[22:02] <andrewwibi> help. i have a desktop with uefi and nothing i do lets me to boot into the installed ubuntu partitions
[22:02] <andrewwibi> the first parition is boot-bios flagged and / is on everything else
[22:03] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, Do you have more than one card in this machine?
[22:03] <andrewwibi> CSM is enabled in the bios
[22:03] <HexSquid> ok I've chowned everything to my username
[22:03] <Ilmen> This evening I succeded booting both Ubuntu and Slitaz from an external HDD, but in both cases my screen end up freezing after the welcome screen of the OS; with Ubuntu the screen gets black after choosing "try" in the first purple screen asking whether I want to try or install it
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> andrewwibi: and did you install ubuntu with csm enabled?
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: see if that fixes your problem
[22:04] <Ilmen> I guess it means there is a problem with my screen?
[22:04] <andrewwibi> hmm i never heard of that, is that an option in the installer? csm was enabled when installed
[22:04] <HexSquid> OK folks - I figure I'll reboot and see if gnome appears
[22:04] <andrewwibi> i tried running boot-repair and it complains about GPT but i have boot-bios flagged in the first paritition
[22:05] <HexSquid> Back in a moment cheer
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> andrewas1: i meant was it enabled in bios when you installed. so cool. can you boot the live cd or are you in it now?
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> andrewas1: :) gpt points to you having installed as uefi not bios/csm
[22:06] <arvut> where are the keymaps stored in ubuntu? I need to run loadkeys in a ssh session in order to help my dad with his computer, I use a dvoraklayout and find it hard to type with qwerty
[22:07] <arvut> /usr/share/keymaps is what I'm used to
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> arvut: have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[22:08] <HexSquid> Alas the GDM still fails on boot
[22:09] <arvut> I just need to change it in the terminal, so that he can continue to use his keymap (swedish qwerty) in the everyday gui apps he use
[22:09] <leptone> this may be the wrong channel. but im hoping some1 here can help me understand this issue. i've enabled the html 5 player for youtube.com. I like the feature which allows me to adjuct the playback speed. however, some videos randomly don't have this option. anyone know whats going on? or how i can work around this?
[22:09] <winb> some1
[22:10] <Ademan> so console-kit-daemon is currently taking up 3.0GB of swap on my machine, 12.04 64bit... what in the actual heck?! Only 2.0MB is actually resident, so I really don't know why it's consuming so much swap... I found a few old bugs but nothing seems to have been resolved, this is a desktop so it's my understanding I need console-kit-daemon, any ideas?
[22:10] <arvut> hitsujiTMO: do you know where keymaps are stored? I am in no need to configure the keyboard for the whole ubuntu login. just the terminal that I login to with ssh
[22:10] <trism> arvut: you might just need to install the console-data package
[22:10] <arvut> trism: loadkeys is installed, so I should be able to use it, if I can find the keymaps
[22:11] <trism> arvut: which seem to be in console-data
[22:11] <trism> arvut: but it is in universe so generally not installed by default
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> arvut: fraid not, i just use the pagage congurator
[22:11] <arvut> trism: well, it is installed on this machine, an old 10.04 32bit install running on a perhaps 8 year old hardware
[22:12] <trism> arvut: oh yes it probably would have been then...I see /usr/share/keymaps/* in that package on 13.10
[22:12] <arvut> k
[22:12] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, Try apt-get remove gdm, apt-get install gdm and dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[22:12] <Rallias> Is there a maximum length I can give an interface name?
[22:13] <arvut> there was no keymaps folder in /usr/share in this install tho
[22:13] <arvut> and as I mentioned, its 10.04-lts 32bit
[22:13] <CrazyZurfer> how do i run a command and tell it to display the response in english?
[22:13] <hitsujiTMO> geekmasterflash: fyi to reninstall a package just use: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[22:14] <arvut> CrazyZurfer: what do you mean? some kind of translator?
[22:14] <CrazyZurfer> no
[22:14] <arvut> what do you want to do then?
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> CrazyZurfer: you mean the -h flag?
[22:14] <CrazyZurfer> hitsujiTMO: might be
[22:14] <CrazyZurfer> how's that
[22:15] <arvut> some programs require --help for help contents. also see "man command" where command is the command you want help with
[22:15] <trism> arvut: strange I see the path in that package on packages.ubuntu.com too for 10.04
[22:17] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: I'm afraid that hasn't changed anything :(
[22:17] <arvut> trism: weird.. I'll look into it tomorrow then, he shut down his pc now due to bedtime and we decided to continue the work tomorrow. But I recall that I didn't see that folder when I typed "loadkeys /usr/share/k" and pressed tab twice.
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you get us the gdm logs then please. should be somewhere in /var/log
[22:17] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: I'll take a look
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: you can install pastebinit and use that to paste the logs
[22:18] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: There are a lot of log files
[22:18] <arvut> oh btw, any idea on how to fix adobe flash in 10.04? 11.2 r200 isn't working and there are plenty of ppl that seems to have issues with it if you google on it. but no solution to be found
[22:19] <draken> how do you create a list of all the filenames and directories in unix (ls ???)
[22:19] <HexSquid> Ok will do
[22:19] <arvut> draken: ls -Al
[22:19] <draken> thx
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: the logs i'm interested in right now are Xorg.0.log  and there should be a log or folder containing logs that begin with gdm
[22:19] <arvut> draken: or do you want a list of all files and folders in your filesystem? du -h /
[22:20] <arvut> draken: you can run "du -sh ." if you just want to list the size of the folder you're in.
[22:20] <draken> yes..
[22:21] <arvut> draken: du -h / > ~/output.file
[22:21] <arvut> should create a pretty long list
[22:21] <draken> thx.. thas it
[22:22] <arvut> =)
[22:22] <arvut> why do you want a list of the whole filesystem anyway?
[22:22] <draken> a want a list of mp3
[22:23] <andrewwibi> anyone have any tips for ubuntu uefi issues? does not want to boot after installed, first partition is boot-bios flagged
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> draken, arvut, i'd use: sudo du -h --one-file-system / > ~/output.file                    to avoid the virtual filesystems like /dev and /proc and get ALL folders
[22:23] <arvut> draken: du -h / | grep *.mp3
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> andrewwibi: are you in a live cd atm?
[22:24] <andrewwibi> yes
[22:24] <arvut> you actually have to use sudo to run du?
[22:24] <arvut> or is it simply to get access to the folders that are read-protected for normal users?
[22:24] <arvut> like /root
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> arvut: yes if you want it to follow folders that are not traversable by your user
[22:25] <syntac> i have two computers running ubuntu. is it possible to start a second X session on my remote machine and have it tunneled to my local machine on vt8? (X is running locally on vt7)
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> draken: there's also: find / -name *.mp3
[22:27] <arvut> hitsujiTMO: yeah, find might do the job better actually
[22:31] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: not knowing which one to pick, this one looked interesting: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481390/
[22:32] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, You had more than one Xorg.0.log ?
[22:32] <HexSquid> Er... that's looking in /log/gdm/
[22:32] <HexSquid> Ok I'll get you Xorg.0.log, one moment
[22:33] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481404/
[22:35] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, What happens if you do startx?
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: that just says that X is closing cleanly without any errors so its looks to be a problem with gdm
[22:36] <__raven> possible to resize the "crypt-luks" partition or will it become broken?
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: not sure about luks but in the general rules for encrypted partitions say no
[22:37] <tsnyph> Just a quick query about the ufw that comes with ubuntu. How effective is it? Does it block all the main ports that could be expoited? or do I have to add ports to it to block?
[22:37] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: is this a lvm resize or how to do that?
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: yes you need to resize the lvm, then you cna resize the contained partitions. have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=726724     it seems to be possible but its a fairly dangerous process
[22:39] <__raven> hitsujiTMO: mounted or on live system?
[22:39] <dreamy_> hi, does anyone knows why i dont got voice on #httpd
[22:39] <dreamy_> ?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> __raven: that has to be done from a live cd.
[22:39] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: yep I've found gdm logs that show out of memory warnings and other errors :/
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> dreamy_: you probably need to register with nickserv.
[22:40] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you pastebin them please
[22:40] <dreamy_> hitsujiTMO, i did  a temporary register? that wont do for today?
[22:40] <__raven> ok
[22:40] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash: startx? I'll try
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> dreamy_: did you verify your email?
[22:41] <dreamy_> i will
[22:41] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash: I get a black screen
[22:42] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: ok one moment
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> tsnyph: ufw will leave some common services thru like icmp but will block anything else incoming
[22:43] <tsnyph> ok that's good to know
[22:43] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, Do you see a cursor when you move your mouse?
[22:43] <andrewwibi> help. i have a desktop with uefi and nothing i do lets me to boot into the installed ubuntu partitions
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> tsnyph: that is at least if you configure it to default deny
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> andrewwibi: can you boot a live cd
[22:44] <tsnyph> I have incomming set to deny
[22:44] <andrewwibi> yes. i am in one now
[22:44] <stevecam> Trying to work out what the hell is wrong with my ubuntu install, do a md5sum on the disk image i downlaoded and and quickly realised it was the first thing i should of done!
[22:45] <tsnyph> What is the difference between deny and reject?
[22:45] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481474/
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> andrewwibi: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[22:45] <GuybrushThreepwo> anyone familiar with PCSX2 on ubuntu
[22:45] <geekmasterflash> HexSquid, How much memory do you have?
[22:46] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, I have it running right now.
[22:46] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash: from startx? no
[22:46] <stevecam> GuybrushThreepwo, are you having trouble with libs?
[22:46] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://pastebin.com/he6mwuRg <- Need to know what to do (I don't know much about the technical side of linux)
[22:46] <tb01110100> I don't know if it still exists on Ubuntu, but what is the name of the program that lets you select colors off the screen and tells you it's hex value, etc? Thanks.
[22:46] <andrewwibi> hitsu pastee.org/f33ra
[22:46] <CrazyZurfer> I'm receiving erros on my ppa's and cannot install software from the ubuntu's software center :(
[22:47] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Looks like you don't have some libs installed, or at least ancient ones installed?
[22:47] <HexSquid> geekmasterflash: 4 gigs ram
[22:47] <CrazyZurfer> here's my apt-get update
[22:47] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Are you trying to compile from source?
[22:47] <CrazyZurfer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481484/
[22:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> geekmasterflash: it came in a tar.gz file, i extracted it and tried to run the launch_pcsx2_linux.sh file
[22:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> which is what i assume i'm supposed to do
[22:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> also i haven't installed any libraries or anything really
[22:49] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, What you are seeing is the source complaining that expected libraries are not there or are old
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you try: sudo mv /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-khmer.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-khmer.conf.disabled
[22:49] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[22:49] <stevecam> GuybrushThreepwo, pretty old program tries to access old libs
[22:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:49] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, 64-bit?
[22:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> yes
[22:50] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Yeah, that wont happen.
[22:50] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, PCSX2 is 32 bit only
[22:50] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, It cant find any libraries likely because you have 64 bit libs
[22:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> so it's not possible to install 32 bit ones..?
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> tb01110100: gpick
[22:50] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: here is another from /gdm http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481493/ if it means anything
[22:51] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, It's possible, yes. I think it would be sudo apt-get install multiarch-support
[22:51] <tb01110100> hitsujiTMO: Thank you so much.
[22:51] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, But there is a simple way to do it too, as PCSX2 has a PPA
[22:51] <djeimsyxuis> hey
[22:51] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo,  https://launchpad.net/~gregory-hainaut/+archive/pcsx2.official.ppa
[22:52] <djeimsyxuis> is there a program that opens .mm (mindmap) files for ubuntu?
[22:52] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: I'll try
[22:52] <tsnyph> hitsujiTMO,  what is the difference between deny and reject settings in ufw?
[22:52] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, I'd recommend getting multiarch support then adding that PPA
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> andrewwibi: your hard drive is too big to install with csm. you have to install as uefi
[22:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> so sudo apt-get install multiarch-support?
[22:54] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: Moved
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> tsnyph: i'm not sure tbh
[22:54] <aaaabbcc> hello, is it normal for a fresh install of ubuntu to eat 20-50% CPU in idle?
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: try and reboot now
[22:55] <tsnyph> hitsujiTMO,  a quick google search revealed the answer :P
[22:55] <tsnyph> "deny" uses the DROP iptables target, which silently discards incoming packets.
[22:56] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: ok rebooting now, thanks, see you in a moment
[22:56] <tsnyph> "reject" uses the REJECT iptables target, which sends back an error packet to the sender of the rejected packet.
[22:56] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Yeah give that a shot. Might be a different command for 12.04
[22:56] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, But can't hurt to try.
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> tsnyph: ahh i see. i always use deny never reject.
[22:56] <tsnyph> yeah metoo
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> aaaabbcc: possibly. what cpu do you have?
[22:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> sudo apt-get install multiarch-support <- it already has it
[22:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> er
[22:57] <lar1991> alright fellas! anyone fancy lending me a hand here
[22:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> it cicnt copy...but yeah
[22:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> it auto-installs that package i guess
[22:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, K, then try using that PPA
[22:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, https://launchpad.net/~gregory-hainaut/+archive/pcsx2.official.ppa
[22:58] <GuybrushThreepwo> What am I clicking on exactly?
[22:58] <aaaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, a phenom 1100T (6 cores at 3.3Ghz)
[22:58] <tsnyph>     "deny" will keep the program waiting until the connection attempt times out, some short time later.
[22:58] <tsnyph>     "reject" will produce an immediate and very informative "Connection refused" message.
[22:58] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, It's the offical PCSX2 PPA
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> aaaabbcc: and whats the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[22:58] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Which will allow you to install PCSX2 via apt-get
[22:59] <aaaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, 800 x 6
[22:59] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: I'm afraid that didn't work either
[22:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> I don't see a download link. I see a list of files down below
[22:59] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Have you never added a PPA before?
[22:59] <aaaabbcc> made this screenshot earlier http://imagebin.org/279112
[22:59] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, See the section labeled "Adding this PPA to you system"
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> aaaabbcc: so its using 20-50% of 800MHz   .... you cpu is downclocked when its not on heave load.
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you pastebin that same gdm log again
[23:00] <hitsujiTMO> aaaabbcc: s/heave/heavy
[23:01] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: ok if I can remember which one it was
[23:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> done
[23:01] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin lovers
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /var/log
[23:02] <CrazyZurfer> I'm receiving erros on my ppa's and cannot install software from the ubuntu's software center :( here's my apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481484/
[23:02] <TauNeutrino> when I download some pdf, for example, I search via google with it an then I click on the link, but it first loads the whole document with the pdf viewer, but I want it to download it to my pc not just open it slowly in the viewer
[23:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> sudo apt-get install pcsx2?
[23:03] <TauNeutrino> when I do right click and "save as" it only downloads the url
[23:03] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, sorry, my system crashed
[23:03] <hitsujiTMO> CrazyZurfer: cn you try changing mirrors
[23:04] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Alright now do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pcsx2-unstable
[23:04] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, well, the problem is that it's slow, it hangs a lot
[23:04] <xangua> TauNeutrino: google chrome and firefox have an internal pdf-reader
[23:04] <aaabbcc> like the mouse freezes constantly and then there's the crashes...
[23:04] <TauNeutrino> yeees but it loads it very slowly ;(
[23:04] <TauNeutrino> I want it to direcly download it
[23:04] <HexSquid> ok
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: can you install: indicator-cpufreq then reboot and use that to set your cpu on performance and see if you get the same stalling/hanging
[23:05] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, sure
[23:05] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: you will need to reboot after isntalling it.
[23:05] <aaabbcc> ok
[23:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> is it true that pcsx2 has worse performance in ubuntu than it does in windows?
[23:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> just curious
[23:06] <TauNeutrino> ok seems to work with wget
[23:06] <TauNeutrino> 8 hours
[23:06] <TauNeutrino> O_O
[23:06] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, I guess? I have only run it on something of a beastly machine
[23:06] <aaabbcc> rebooting
[23:06] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, The real problem is that there are some plugins missing on the Linux version
[23:06] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Which means some games may not work
[23:06] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: If this worked ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481577/
[23:07] <HexSquid> that was ls -l | pastebinit
[23:07] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, As far as performance... well I do fine but my machine is sort of highend
[23:07] <choiceuser> i love pp
[23:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> well, in windows, for example, final fantasy 12 tends to lag slightly at times, but is still playable
[23:08] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: cool, so: ls -l /var/log/gdm | pastebinit
[23:08] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, I am playing FF12 now
[23:08] <HexSquid> ok
[23:08] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, On hardware render, I never get any lag.
[23:08] <stevecam> i love that, "my machine is sort of high end"
[23:08] <geekmasterflash> stevecam, :D
[23:09] <syzo> hey, so I'm getting frame tearing while playing games and watching videos (and anything else probably); using an AMD 6970 with default drivers on xubuntu 13.04. Can anyone point me in the right direction to fix this?
[23:09] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, I installed it, now what?
[23:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> Alright, well, that's setup
[23:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> Now I have to try running it
[23:09] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: http://past.ubuntu.com/6481589/
[23:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> Another question: Does ubuntu install default drivers for graphics and such? I assume it does
[23:10] <eb0t>  /mouse enable
[23:10] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481589/ sorry
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: in top right corder you should have a new icon for the cpu. set that to performance
[23:10] <stevecam> /doesnt need spaces
[23:10] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Easy way to tell: go to system settings->Details
[23:11] <geekmasterflash> Info should be in graphics
[23:11] <stevecam> eb0t, type // at the start of your conversation
[23:11] <aguitel> any tips to install epson scanner cx 5600 ?
[23:11] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, still hangs
[23:12] <aaabbcc> the cpu usage is still high, in long bursts
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: pastebinit /var/log/gdm/0-greeter.log && pastebinit /var/log/gdm/0.log && pastebinit /var/log/gdm/0-slave.log
[23:12] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: then i doubt its the cpu causing th issue. can you pastebin the output of the command: dmesg
[23:12] <aaabbcc> like 70% at times
[23:13] <HexSquid> I wish I could copy / paste that line!
[23:13] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, the whole thing?
[23:13] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: on it
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: install pastebinit. then run: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> says AMD Radeon HD 7660G, standard
[23:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> so i guess yes, it did
[23:13] <scottyob> Have you guys ever seen /proc/net/arp not matching what arp shows?
[23:14] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: what ubuntu version are you on?
[23:14] <GuybrushThreepwo> 12.04 LTS 64bit
[23:14] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: and you're looking to game?
[23:15] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have windows on my other partition, but I'd prefer to have the emulator on this one too since I use it more
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: because you'll most likely need to install fglrx (which I don't advise you to do) OR use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~pali/+archive/graphics-drivers
[23:16] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: and if you do add that ppa I linked, you'll have hardware video decode support that supports certain video formats (like h264 for e.g.)
[23:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> so the default driver isn't enough?
[23:17] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481614/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481615/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481616/
[23:17] <HexSquid> Pastebinit is pretty amazing
[23:17] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: the default open source driver in ubuntu's repos isn't enough. fglrx is proprietary and usually installed if one wants to do gaming, BUT, has glitches and might cause your system to crash. That ppa I linked has the open source driver, but it's updated (latest) along with mesa.
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: can you also pastebin /var/log/syslog
[23:18] <aaabbcc> sure
[23:18] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, AMD/ATI's opensource driver should do okay with PCSx2
[23:18] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, But if you wanna go with steam or modern gaming
[23:18] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, You'll probably want the proprietary driver
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I recommend you add that ppa I linked, run apt-get update then apt-get dist-upgrade and after that logout, log back in. And if you don't have kernel 3.11 or 3.12, install that too.
[23:19] <GuybrushThreepwo> I remember one time I updated my graphics driver and when I rebooted ubuntu didn't want to display anything on screen anymore
[23:19] <GuybrushThreepwo> i had to reinstall
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: though those kernels are "supported here"
[23:19] <Ari-Yang> * aren't
[23:20] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo apt-get install fglrx <--- use at your own risk
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: was there a kernel update before the issue?
[23:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> Is there a way to recover if something goes wrong?
[23:21] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Shouldn't be exceedingly hard. Reinstallation for a driver issue is usually over kill
[23:22] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: probably, but might be a hassle...
[23:22] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Most times you can fix it by switching back to the FOSS driver.
[23:22] <GuybrushThreepwo> geekmasterflash:  But I didn't know how to fix it at the time
[23:22] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: but if you boot using fglrx, you might get a crash, again, install it at your own risk
[23:22] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Only have one computer?
[23:22] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: tbh I recommend you upgrade to kernel 3.12 and install that ppa I linked
[23:22] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: There were updates which required a password prompt.
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: can you reboot to grub and try an older kernel
[23:23] <GuybrushThreepwo> I only have one computer yes, but it's dual booted. My second computer has hardware issues and it doesn't always load right
[23:23] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: I recall the undates mentioned gnome among other things
[23:23] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: Ok
[23:24] <alexhoua> Привет
[23:25] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12.1-trusty/ here is where you'd install kernel 3.12
[23:25] <daze_> Anyone know the best guide to ubuntu?
[23:26] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: seeing how you're on 64bit, you'd download the headers amd64, headers all, and image amd64
[23:26] <reisio> daze_: you're talking on it
[23:26] <GuybrushThreepwo> pcsx2 doesn't want to run my game
[23:27] <arvut> daze_: using it tends to teach you pretty fast how it works, as long as you are unafraid and somewhat tech-savvy
[23:27] <daze_> Negative just something that will help me learn it quickly
[23:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> File Not Found Path: IsoFileSystem
[23:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> And if I try a second time, it crashes
[23:27] <Letatcest> 't bier en de grappa waren lekker.
[23:27] <arvut> daze_: its a huge area, what do you want to learn?
[23:28] <arvut> terminal? gui? some specific program?
[23:28] <scrxw> grappa is te zoet
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: unfortunately the logs aren't giving any indication of where the issue could be
[23:28] <daze_> terminal and then ruby programming
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | daze_ you mean this?
[23:28] <arvut> open up a terminal and type "man bash" then, without quotes.
[23:29] <arvut> and then go get a good book on the ruby programming language
[23:29] <andrerics> Hi! How to dual boot Windows 8.1 and UbuntuStudio 13.10?
[23:29] <reisio> andrerics: install one, install the other
[23:30] <arvut> andrerics: afaik, you have to install windows first. then ubuntu.
[23:30] <arvut> as windows can't read any of the unix filesystems without extra software
[23:31] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, I see, thanks for the help tho
[23:31] <reisio> arvut: it's easier if you do, but you don't have to, and that isn't the reason :D
[23:31] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: tried all the other kernals, same problem
[23:32] <arvut> reisio: well, its annoying to have to reinstall the bootloader again after windows screws it up
[23:32] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, about that indicator-cpufreq, what would be the default behaviour? "On demand"? or should I just uninstall it?
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> aaabbcc: on demand
[23:32] <reisio> arvut: it's annoying to have windows installed
[23:32] <aaabbcc> thanks
[23:32] <arvut> but I think win8 can have linux integrated in its bootloader now, not sure tho as I don't have any experience running it myself
[23:32] <daze_> yeah when i installed ubuntu i don't have my windows os
[23:32] <daze_> anymore
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> HexSquid: first line here seems to give some indication of the problem, but can't find much info on it http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481616/
[23:33] <arvut> reisio: oh yeah, but sometimes ppl want winblows anyway. I know I do as I run some programs that only run in it. And it is fairly excellent for running a virtual machine in =)
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> arvut: only on mbr not uefi
[23:33] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: geekmasterflash: thanks for your help but I think I'll go back to 13.04 for now
[23:33] <TauNeutrino> hey , is apple based on unix/bsd?
[23:33] <reisio> arvut: if you say so
[23:34] <reisio> TauNeutrino: yes
[23:34] <reisio> TauNeutrino: that is, Mac OS is
[23:34] <TauNeutrino> but not linux?
[23:34] <TauNeutrino> ehh yes, I mean Mac OS
[23:34] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, It's telling you that you didn't define the path to an ISO image
[23:34] <arvut> daze_: you get a choice to install ubuntu side by side with windows, it will then create a boot option to boot windows in grub2
[23:34] <reisio> TauNeutrino: it's based on FreeBSD, a BSD, which is a Unix
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: thats OT, but darwin is built from freebsd + mach
[23:35] <TauNeutrino> darwin??
[23:35] <reisio> TauNeutrino: "Linux" (that is, GNU/Linux) is a Unix clone, a de facto Unix
[23:35] <GuybrushThreepwo> geekmasterflash: , I think my FF12 file is an .IMG file
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino: darwin is the osx kernel
[23:35] <reisio> TauNeutrino: darwin is all the parts of Mac OS that Apple doesn't own exclusively
[23:35] <TauNeutrino> ahh ok
[23:35] <reisio> it's not the kernel
[23:35] <reisio> it's what I said :p
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, So make it an ISO or find an iso version.
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> err
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> I mean
[23:35] <GuybrushThreepwo> It worked before, though
[23:35] <GuybrushThreepwo> but
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> "Buy the game"
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ;)
[23:35] <TauNeutrino> ahh ok cool
[23:36] <reisio> you can actually run Darwin, except it has a tiny community because sane people choose GNU/Linux instead and insane choose Mac OS instead
[23:36] <TauNeutrino> thx
[23:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> maybe something happened when I copied it to dvd?
[23:36] <TauNeutrino> ;D
[23:36] <TauNeutrino> so apple wrote darwin??
[23:37] <TauNeutrino> said someone at apple channel
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: sorry your right.
[23:37] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Potentially, what you are getting is a warning that you don't have an ISO path. If you have it on DVD you can play direct from the disc provided it's written to the disc and not just a datafile on the disc
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> TauNeutrino best to take this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <TauNeutrino> hm ok
[23:37] <arvut> reisio: or maybe its the tech-savvy that chose linux while the ppl that "just want it to work" as so many mac users say, run OSX.
[23:37] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: apology accepted! You are pardoned :p
[23:37] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, I take that back, apparently the play from DVD plugin doesnt work
[23:38] <reisio> arvut: nope
[23:38] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, It has to be an ISO file.
[23:38] <arvut> if I ever bought a mac, I'd install gentoo on it
[23:38] <reisio> you can pay someone to install GNU/Linux for you and have it "just work" the same way you can pay to have Mac OS installed for you and just work
[23:38] <GuybrushThreepwo> how to confert img to iso then?
[23:38] <reisio> arvut: hear hear
[23:38] <GuybrushThreepwo> convert*
[23:38] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: what for
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: thany you my lord
[23:38] <GuybrushThreepwo> geekmasterflash tells me that i need to
[23:38] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: you will go far my child, don't forget those goat sacrifices
[23:38]  * reisio basks in the warmth of himself
[23:39] <arvut> reisio: yeah, but the ppl that buy macs get macosx preinstalled, so they tend to stick with it just because of that.
[23:39] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: that isn't a good enough reason
[23:39] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, ccd2iso name-of-file.img name-of-file.iso ?
[23:39] <Beldar> If one wants to not watch their computer and worry better apple than MS
[23:39] <geekmasterflash> reisio, He wants to use PCSX2 to play a ps2 game
[23:39] <krabador> hi, people, i've fsck every boot, how can i solve this'
[23:39] <reisio> arvut: mmm, but if the choice is between an OS that is preinstalled and one that is not, then the choice is not between Mac OS and GNU/Linux, as both can be bought preinstalled
[23:39] <geekmasterflash> reisio, But the plugin for playing from DVD doesnt exist on the Linux version
[23:40] <geekmasterflash> reisio, but PCSX2 can play direct from an iso image
[23:40] <Beldar> krabador, It is in fstab now
[23:40] <reisio> geekmasterflash: what happens when you tell it the .img is a .iso?
[23:40] <geekmasterflash> reisio, Crashes, apparently.
[23:40] <reisio> oh right it's not you :p
[23:40] <reisio> well that isn't indicative of much, except that the program is not well made
[23:40] <arvut> reisio: true, but I doubt apple offers a gnu/linux preinstall on their hardware ;) you have to pay your friendly pc-guy to do that for ya ;)
[23:41] <Beldar> krabador, Yuo have been running a fsck right?
[23:41] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: usually a .img can be renamed to .iso .... both are typically a raw copy of the filesystem
[23:41] <reisio> arvut: paying either way
[23:41] <GuybrushThreepwo> ccd2iso IOPRP300.IMG IOPRP300.ISO  Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!
[23:41] <GuybrushThreepwo> Maybe the file just got corrupted
[23:41] <GuybrushThreepwo> and i need to redownload it
[23:41] <GuybrushThreepwo> :/
[23:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> it worked as img just fine before. and it's one of the extensions pcsx2 accepts
[23:42] <krabador> Beldar, it's in fstab to check every boot?
[23:42] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: then it should work now without "converting" it
[23:42] <Beldar> krabador, You have run a fsck right?
[23:42] <tehlulzfor> @seen
[23:42] <krabador> Beldar, for / , i've 1 at pass
[23:43] <krabador> Beldar, i've it every boot
[23:43] <krabador> not scheduled
[23:43] <krabador> every boot
[23:43] <Beldar> krabador, Where did you run the fsck from?
[23:44] <krabador> Beldar, i've it later the latest upgrade
[23:44] <aguitel> any tips to install epson scanner cx 5600 ?
[23:44] <andrerics> reisio: I tried this. UbuntuStudio 13.10 not recognized Windows 8.1 so I shrinked a Windows 8.1 partition and installed UbuntuStudio 13.10 manually. After this i runned Boot Repair but only UbuntuStudio 13.10 appeared at GRUB. There are tutorials and documentation of how install ubuntu 13.10 in UEFI systems, but i don't know if my computer uses UEFI.
[23:44] <Beldar> krabador, upgrade within the release or to another release?
[23:44] <krabador> Beldar, i haven't run it, later the latest apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:45] <krabador> Beldar, not, i've a 13.10, fresh installation, from the day it comes out
[23:45] <Beldar> krabador, OKay back to the question, when you ran the fsck how did you do it?
[23:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> umm
[23:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> should i be able to run pcsx2 with no disk without selecting plugins or anything?
[23:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> cause that gives me an error too
[23:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> i do have a bios
[23:49] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, How are you trying to do this
[23:49] <bugtraq> hello gays
[23:49] <reisio> suppa homie
[23:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just selected "No Disk"
[23:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> under the iso menu
[23:50] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Because when I run it, CDVD->ISOSelector->(path/to/iso)
[23:50] <Beldar> krabador, Since you ran a fsck it changed fstab, ubuntu does not have fsck as part of a every 30 boot anymore. http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/88818-disabling-fsck-startup.html
[23:50] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Yeah no.
[23:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> idk, i wanted to see if it would do anything
[23:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> >_>
[23:51] <GuybrushThreepwo> I guess I'll find an actual game to test
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> andrerics: are you on the live cd now?
[23:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> CDVD->ISOSelector->Browse is what i did before. tried full and fast
[23:54] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Okay, and what happened?
[23:54] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, and it was a .iso image, right?
[23:55] <Beldar> krabador, Honestly if it is running every boot and it is not the fstab check your HD for errors with the smartcheck.
[23:55] <krabador> Beldar, smartcheck?
[23:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> well for starters it said the supported files are iso mdf nrg bin img .dump, but that img to iso converter didnt even work so im guessing my game was corrupted
[23:56] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Ok, so get an iso. Lots of plugins are not on the linux version. I have never gotten anything but .iso files to load properly.
[23:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Make sure you have an .iso, that you set CDVD to ISO (and not plugin or no disc)
[23:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Then boot full
[23:57] <Beldar> krabador, The disks app has a smartcheck top right corner gear dropdown.
[23:57] <Hetal> Can someone develop a script that checks if a program died and it restarts it if it died
[23:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> ccd2iso IOPRP300.IMG IOPRP300.ISO  Unrecognized sector mode (0) at sector 0!
[23:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> I did show you that, right?
[23:57] <GuybrushThreepwo> it didn't work
[23:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, You did, and my answer is the same
[23:57] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Get an iso file.
[23:58] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: what does 'file IOPRP300.IMG' say?
[23:58] <GuybrushThreepwo> IOPRP300.IMG: data
[23:58] <Beldar> krabador, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[23:59] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: strings IOPRP300.IMG | head | pastebinit