[00:10] <kingbeowolf> anyone using xorg edgers with a 7xxx series AMD card can speak to the quality of the experience?
[00:10] <kingbeowolf> namely https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[00:12] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i dont, but its pretty easy to try the ppa vs the supported version.. ppa's are not officially supported
[00:29] <kingbeowolf> holstein: what do you mean by "its pretty easy"
[00:30] <holstein> kingbeowolf: to add a ppa, and test the drivers you are asking about
[00:32] <kingbeowolf> holstein: it could screw things up though no?
[00:33] <holstein> kingbeowolf: what do i do? i have an install, that i literally try all the drivers on. i *always* have *all* my data backed up.. i expect that something might get screwed up using unsupported software on proprietary hardware
[00:33] <holstein> kingbeowolf: i test all the drivers, and config until im comfortable, then i usually do a fresh install
[00:35] <kingbeowolf> i have backups but i think it would take forever to reinstall and I only save my home directory not all my install software and stuff
[00:35] <kingbeowolf> what do you use ?
[00:36] <holstein> kingbeowolf: generally, i use what works
[00:36] <holstein> kingbeowolf: whats the issue? are you thinking of trying the PPA due to some performance issue?
[00:39] <kingbeowolf> holstein: yeah i think the newer AMD drivers will help solve some issues and hopefully give some extra support towards crossfire on the 7950
[00:39] <holstein> kingbeowolf: you should be able to read if that is true or not
[00:39] <holstein> kingbeowolf: you can add the ppa, and use ppa-purge to purge the drivers
[00:40] <holstein> !info ppa-purge
[00:51] <kingbeowolf> ill give it a shot thanks
[00:57] <autif> It seems like power manager does not respect settings in 13.10. For example, I chose "ask" for power button and "Nothing" for laptop lid is closed for both AC and Battery, but neither of these are respected. The computer sleeps when I put the lid down and powers off when I hit the power button. Has anyone heard of this?
[01:12] <holstein> autif: sometimes, its as simple as setting those in the place for the power adapter to be plugged, and its on batter, or vice versa
[01:13] <autif> holstein: yup - i have the same setting for both AC and battery - "Nothing" when lid is closed. Still no joy!
[01:35]  * j4jackj is stupid
[01:36] <KombuchaKip> holstein: Thanks for pointing that out. Enjoy the site.
[02:43] <xubuntu051> hi
[02:43] <xubuntu051> someone there?
[03:09] <uflaig> good day! Is there a possibility to put a wine application into the context menu?
[03:13] <holstein> uflaig: just add the application in general, with the command to start it
[03:14] <holstein> http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu
[03:14] <uflaig> right
[03:21] <uflaig> sorry holstein , got a phonecall! thanks for the tip! I will add a custom item for my menu!
[03:32] <xubuntu761> buenas noches
[03:33] <Unit193> !es
[03:33] <xubuntu761> soy nuevo en xubuntu y espero que este foro sirva para mejorar mi experiencia con linux
[04:25] <autif> Found the solution: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360615/ubuntu-server-13-10-now-goes-to-sleep-when-closing-laptop-lid
[05:13] <KanoWins> hey guys
[05:13] <KanoWins> does anyone know anything about video flash problems with the browser?
[05:16] <Unit193> Got details?
[05:16] <KanoWins> well basically, youtube, for instance, starts a video and stops after a couple of seconds
[05:16] <KanoWins> this is with adobe flash player
[05:18] <KanoWins> this is in chromium and firefox
[05:19] <KanoWins> doesn't really have quite that problem with other distros, for example my backbox seems to play things fine
[05:22] <KanoWins> okay it starts with no sound, hiccups for a moment and then the generic error comes up
[05:25] <Unit193> Have you tried pepperflash?  And isn't Backbox based on Xubuntu anyway?
[05:25] <KanoWins> i was going to ask u what alternative there would be, i'll try pepperflash
[05:25] <KanoWins> i don't know about backbox being xubuntu based, only that they both use xfce
[05:26] <KanoWins> if i open the flash console in the video window, it kinda freezes
[05:27] <KanoWins> i wonder if it's a user issue, adobe flash probably only works with root login only
[05:29] <KanoWins> can't find pepperflash - is there a repository that it'll show up in?
[05:43] <Unit193> "adobe flash probably only works with root login only"  Umm, no, just, no.
[07:49] <xubuntu271> Hi, established chromium. When I open a couple of tabs that some of them lost the title. Why is that? :(
[07:52] <ObrienDave> new tabs or previously opened tabs?
[07:53] <xubuntu271> and the new tabs disappear headers
[07:55] <xubuntu271> open for example Wikipedia, something is happening and lost the title of this tab
[07:57] <elfy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1222718
[07:57] <elfy> maybe
[07:59] <ninjahattori> hi, why some icons like mail-reader or some i uget don't appear?
[08:31] <well_laid_lawn> try a different icon set
[09:01] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i've got an issue
[09:01] <XATRIX> I have latest xubuntu, and Acer D255E netbook
[09:02] <XATRIX> When i try to minimize backlight of my LCD , it rises Display Properties diallog
[09:02] <XATRIX> Where i can setup resolution for displays
[09:03] <XATRIX> When i try to rise the backlight it doesn't
[09:11] <ObrienDave> dang, I can never remember where that setting is
[10:22] <razor_> hello
[10:23] <razor_> Just installed Xubuntu 12.04 @ old Fujitsu Amilo laptop. Problem  is no sound...where could i find working driver or is it impossible..
[11:00] <XATRIX> I have latest xubuntu, and Acer D255E netbook
[11:00] <XATRIX> When i try to minimize backlight of my LCD , it rises Display Properties diallog
[11:00] <XATRIX> Where i can setup resolution for displays
[11:00] <XATRIX> How can i make it not to show display settings while tuning brightness ?
[13:25] <dreamer> hi all. anybode experience with x2go? I'm trying to use it with our xubuntu image at work, but all I can get is a message with 'unable to load failsafe session' and some yadayada.
[13:25] <dreamer> I've tried to start the session with this: https://gist.github.com/redecs/5136841  <
[13:25] <dreamer> < but same result
[13:25] <dreamer> (aarg, typo-tuesday -_-)
[13:28] <cfhowlett> dreamer, no idea what that is, but there are more people in #ubuntu.  Might want to ask there.
[13:30] <dreamer> it's a bug with xubuntu, not ubuntu
[13:30] <dreamer> x2go is an implentation of nx
[13:31] <cfhowlett> dreamer, OK.  over my head, though.  sorry.  perhaps contacting the xubunt developers
[13:32] <dreamer> and here I thought that this was the xubuntu support channel ..
[13:32] <cfhowlett> tis.  but we're volunteers and users like you for the most part.  developers don't hang out here much
[13:33] <dreamer> I'll go to #xubuntu-devel then
[13:33] <cfhowlett> :)
[13:33] <cfhowlett> good luck
[13:33] <knome> dreamer, please don't.
[13:33] <Poisoned_Dragon> have you read the x2go docs?
[13:33] <dreamer> yes
[13:33] <knome> dreamer, it looks like you need to specifically tell x2go to start xfce
[13:33] <dreamer> I have
[13:34] <dreamer> and also tried xubuntu/xfce specific startup scripts
[13:34] <knome> have you asked their creators why they don't work?
[13:34] <dreamer> it works fine with other desktops. only xfce/xubuntu fails
[13:35] <dreamer> yes, they say it should work with xfce. the latest x2goclient has xfce as an option as well
[13:35] <dreamer> thus it seems xubuntu specific why it doesn't work
[13:35] <knome> yes... they say it "should work"
[13:35] <dreamer> but mostly I wanted to know if anyone here has experience
[13:35] <knome> have you tested it with other xfce-based distros?
[14:50] <xubuntu449> anyone here?
[14:56] <audrey> no
[14:56] <audrey> that's a stupid question
[16:44] <Lassis> Hello, ive got some issues with amd64 cpu during startup. any ideas ill be glad :D
[16:45] <fartboner> Lassis: might help to say what the issue is
[16:45] <Lassis> watchdog detects hard lock up on one of the cpus
[17:00] <lachvalk> What does "Fix Committed" signify in Launchpad?  e.g., http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygame/+bug/682144
[19:57] <niggardly> i need help, how do I format a new HDD?
[19:57] <niggardly> ext4
[19:58] <niggardly> gparted iirc
[19:59] <elfy> niggardly: I tend to do it with gparted
[20:00] <elfy> you can do it from command line if you want to
[20:00] <niggardly> elfy, i just created a msdos partition table, is this the way to go?
[20:00] <niggardly> now to create an ext4 partition for the whole table?
[20:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> the whole drive
[20:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> if that is your aim
[20:00] <elfy> if oyu only want one partition
[20:01] <niggardly> yes, whole drive, but do I have to have a partition? a msdos partition?
[20:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> no
[20:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> partitions are just that. the table is what stores the partitions.
[20:02] <niggardly> whats the difference between primary partition and extended partition?
[20:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> for example, in a win8 laptop, the table is not msdos/mbr. it's GPT.
[20:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> Exactly what the name implies. You can only have about 3 primary partitions on a drive. If you want to cut up the drive more, you make an extended partition to store logical partitions.
[20:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> iirc
[20:04] <elfy> 4 primaries - extended at least counts as a primary, and you can have 1 of those
[20:05] <elfy> there is a limit to how many logicals you can have in an extended iirc - but can't remember how many
[20:06] <maico> depends on disc size
[20:07] <maico> according to the VDm (virtual disc manager) you can put 1 primary and 4 logicals on a 750 gig disc
[20:08] <elfy> I've had way more than that on smaller drives
[20:08] <niggardly> I cannot copy anything onto the new HDD; its all owned by root
[20:09] <niggardly> tips?
[20:09] <niggardly> i forgot how to change permissions
[20:09] <niggardly> nautilus comes to mind...
[20:10] <Poisoned_Dragon> should only have easy access to your home directory.
[20:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> I just use sudo to launch apps I need to edit files outside of /home
[20:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> But, it depends on your needs
[20:15] <fartboner> niggardly: chmod
[20:19] <elfy> I - create mount point/ mount partition/ chown it
[20:20] <niggardly> id really appreciate instrucxtions on the noob level
[20:21] <niggardly> chmod and then what?
[20:54] <MVanDruff> has anyone had any problems with the new xubuntu not reading a sb audigy sound card
[20:54] <elfy> MVanDruff: works ok with my old one
[20:54] <knome> works with my audigy 2 card as well
[20:55] <MVanDruff> it stopped working
[20:55] <MVanDruff> i cant figure out why
[20:55] <MVanDruff> alsamixer will not run and i have uninstalled and reinstalled.
[20:55] <knome> MVanDruff, try using pavucontrol
[20:56] <elfy> MVanDruff: and have you tried removing/reseating it
[20:56] <MVanDruff> yes
[20:57] <MVanDruff> i only get a dummy output in pavucontrol
[20:58] <MVanDruff> but the card is listed as a pci device in term
[21:02] <MVanDruff> 02:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy FireWire Port (rev 03)
[21:04] <knome> that's just the firewire port
[21:04] <MVanDruff> so is it not reading the soundcard at all?
[21:05] <knome> 04:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04)
[21:05] <knome> i'm getting that.
[21:06] <knome> (and then a game port and firewire)
[21:06] <MVanDruff> http://pastebin.com/smnQ04yp