[12:22] <bac> jujugui: i'm looking at huw's problem
[12:22] <benji> k
[13:01] <gary_poster> thanks bac
[14:05] <hatch> morning all
[14:05] <rick_h_> morning
[14:08] <hatch> gary_poster https://twitter.com/clarler/status/405565740700274688 schedule wise looks like I'm available 
[14:09] <rick_h_> woot, hatch on tv
[14:10] <hatch> lol
[14:10] <hatch> like a baws
[14:10] <gary_poster> :-) hatch will lookin a sec; on call
[14:20] <hatch> bac are you planning on fixing huws branch or are we just leaving it to him?
[14:20] <hatch> I could also take over if needed
[14:21] <bac> hatch: if i had time this afternoon i was going to look at it
[14:21] <hatch> cool, lemme know if you run out of time
[14:34]  * frankban run the charm tests in ~25mins \o/ , but the legacy server header test fails :-/
[14:48] <gary_poster> hatch cool about roundtable.  +1, for you and whoever wants to show up.
[14:49] <hatch> eggcellent, now I just need to figure out what to talk about
[15:50] <hatch> jujugui call in 10
[15:50] <gary_poster> ty
[15:51]  * rick_h_ runs 
[15:51] <gary_poster> hey frankban, I'm about to qa the quickstart change to support the authtokens.  Could you take a quick look over the diff to make sure it looks alright before I do so?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484972/
[15:51] <frankban> gary_poster: sure
[15:51] <gary_poster> ty
[15:54] <gary_poster> maybe I should tell the user if we have a token or not...they will see effect, but maybe that will ease surprise?
[15:54] <gary_poster> s/ease/reduce/
[15:55] <frankban> gary_poster: can we stay for five minutes after the call? I have a comment on the diff and an unrelated question 
[15:55] <gary_poster> frankban, sure
[15:55] <frankban> gary_poster: thank you
[15:58] <Makyo> jujugui call in 2
[16:01] <gary_poster> benji yoo hoo?
[16:01] <benji> gary_poster: coming
[16:11] <bac> gary_poster: i have no commercial vouchers available for private projects on LP
[16:13] <gary_poster> bac, darn, but thanks.  rick_h_ ^^^ wgrant maybe?
[16:13] <rick_h_> gary_poster: yea, will have to catch him one night
[16:13] <bac> if only there were an asynchronous messaging system...
[16:24] <Makyo> frankban, Would like to go over tasks when you get a chance.  Can make all the cards and see about starting a small thing, but I'm out thurs/fri, don't want to leave too much hanging.
[16:41] <gary_poster> frankban, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Z2FyeS5wb3N0ZXJAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0
[16:41] <gary_poster> Makyo, frankban would be great if frankban can work on it on Thurs/Fri
[16:41] <Makyo> Yeah
[16:41] <gary_poster> sounds like that's what you mean
[16:41] <gary_poster> cool
[16:47] <frankban> gary_poster, Makyo: sounds good, I can start prototyping something
[16:48] <gary_poster> cool
[16:48] <frankban> gary_poster or Makyo: call?
[16:48] <gary_poster> frankban,  is ready for you :-)
[16:48] <frankban> cool joining
[16:48] <gary_poster> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Z2FyeS5wb3N0ZXJAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.j0rk5d371ph8331ijtf48t2uj0
[16:50] <hatch> benji any idea how I do a multi check conditional in bash? https://gist.github.com/hatched/e7d882ee100f52ca1eb0 this is throwing an error
[16:51]  * benji looks
[16:52] <hatch> line 62: syntax error in conditional expression: unexpected token `;'
[16:52] <hatch> that;s the error for that line
[16:53] <benji> hatch: I don't see a problem with that code, what error is it generating?
[16:53] <hatch> 2013-11-27 16:45:18 INFO juju.worker.uniter context.go:255 HOOK /var/lib/juju/agents/unit-failtesterp-0/charm/hooks/install: line 62: syntax error in conditional expression: unexpected token `;'
[16:53] <hatch> the conditional in that gist is the line in question
[16:54] <hatch> oh shoot I know what it is
[16:54] <hatch> missing the space after the final True
[16:54] <hatch> damn I hate bash
[16:56] <hatch> thanks for the help :)
[16:57] <benji> hatch: heh, I just noticed the same thing, and yes, shell scripting is nasty
[16:58]  * benji pines for MPE job control language
[17:01] <frankban> Makyo: available when you want
[17:01] <Makyo> frankban, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7acpir7e3t3ummvqu4iun0imac?hl=en
[17:40] <frankban> guihelp: I need two reviews for https://codereview.appspot.com/34130043 , no rush, thank you!
[17:40] <Makyo> frankban, I'll take one.
[17:40] <gary_poster> frankban, I'll take a no-qa one :-)
[17:41] <gary_poster> yay 120 -> 40 !
[17:41] <frankban> :-)
[17:41] <frankban> thank you both
[17:47] <gary_poster> mm, fresh Thanksgivikkuh latke.  day early, but too good to pass up.
[17:52] <gary_poster> frankban, am I right in understanding that you removed test_local_release because TestBuiltinServerLocalRelease uses the local release for all of its tests?
[17:53] <frankban> gary_poster: yes, that scenario is already tested there
[17:53] <gary_poster> ok cool.
[17:56] <gary_poster> hatch, Makyo I might be late for our calls.  Is that alright?  I'd png you when I was available.
[17:56] <Makyo> gary_poster, sounds good
[17:56] <gary_poster> ty
[17:57] <gary_poster> frankban, "LGTM with trivial.  Thank you!"
[17:58] <frankban> gary_poster: great thanks!
[18:04] <hatch> gary_poster no rush, take your time
[18:04] <gary_poster> thanks hatch
[18:15] <gary_poster> ok, afk for awhile
[19:01] <hatch> jujugui looking for a really quick review https://codereview.appspot.com/34120044/
[19:02] <benji> hatch: looking
[19:02] <hatch> thanks
[19:09] <hatch> benji thanks, and oops I forgot to commit the tests, will run them and submit
[19:09] <benji> cool
[19:26] <hatch> benji interesting bug I am guessing because the element is never focused because it's generated on the fly
[19:27] <benji> yeah, I figure it will be something like that (assuming we ever try to fix it given its importance and the likelyhood that we're ripping that code out anyway)
[19:35] <rick_h_> ok, how do we build this into the gui? http://david.li/waves/
[19:36] <rick_h_> benji: when we get back I'd like to see if you and I could sit down and plot out the best way to setup the new project https://github.com/mitechie/jenkins-github-lander
[19:36] <rick_h_> benji: my brain is fried for the day, but if you get a chance to peek appreciate it. The makefile setps to setup and such are a bit of a mess
[19:36] <benji> rick_h_: sounds good
[19:37] <rick_h_> gary_poster: ^ pushed up to a person branch a working start that does what the thing did yesterday with a couple of tests (far from complete) and docs. Calling that a day. Will have notes for the email for monday. 
[19:37] <gary_poster> rick_h_, fantastic!  thanks and happy Thanksgiving
[19:41] <gary_poster> jujugui, anyone object to me making a bzr release and putting it in the ~juju-gui charm (not the official ~juju-gui-charmers one)?  I want to make it available for testing quickstart
[19:41] <benji> sounds fine to me
[19:44] <gary_poster> k
[19:44] <BradCrittenden> gary_poster: a-ok.
[19:44] <gary_poster> thx
[19:46] <bac> benji: your new random service name + 'make deploy' in the charm make for some fun
[19:47] <benji> bac: hmm, maybe there should be an optional service name which __main__ would pass
[19:47] <bac> jujugui: please don't look at my review just yet.  i'm doing QA and writing instructions
[19:48] <bac> benji: that'd be nice.
[19:48] <benji> bac: I'll make a card
[19:52] <bac> gary_poster: flurries in CH.  you got anything?
[20:07] <gary_poster> bac. just rain
[20:11] <Makyo> jujugui https://codereview.appspot.com/34260044/ quick quickstart reviews/qa, please! 
[20:12] <bac> Makyo: i'll do it as soon as i can
[20:12] <Makyo> bac, cool, thanks.
[20:18] <hatch> gary_poster just FYI a large data transfer down a websocket will block because the sockets are sent in order. Other have gotten around this by splitting up the large files but....no
[20:18] <hatch> :)
[20:18] <gary_poster> hatch, great data, thanks :-)
[20:18] <gary_poster> and I'll be ready for call soon
[20:27] <hatch> gary_poster sure thing, whenever you're ready
[20:29] <bac> Makyo: code reviewed.  can't do QA until i get my current run sorted out.
[20:29] <Makyo> bac, sounds good.
[20:33] <Makyo> bac, overloaded var; qaing frankban's branch, but will fix in a few.
[20:39] <Makyo> Hah, roommate (who works for a grocery store) said his friend was raving about this weird cloud product called 'Juju'... :)
[20:40] <hatch> w00t w00t
[20:40] <hatch> we are famous!
[20:41] <gary_poster> heh
[20:41] <hatch> rick_h_ you still around?
[20:41] <gary_poster> hatch  zero rush but https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/Z2FyeS5wb3N0ZXJAY2Fub25pY2FsLmNvbQ.s6mt389qadeobe2a9tm9d8nm40
[20:41] <rick_h_> hatch: what's up?
[20:42] <hatch> rick_h_ any experience writing hooks for apache2 and haproxy?
[20:42] <rick_h_> hatch: no, would just have to check out what things like charmworld does, or wordpress
[20:45] <hatch> ok I'll check there
[21:12] <hatch> oh netflix you silly silly people https://www.evernote.com/shard/s219/sh/cd7f6ae5-8cdc-4282-ada4-d97e4e695ebd/99a3294013dea17dfb24c22e80cf8db2
[21:12] <bac> hatch: i'm not going to have time to debug huw's branch
[21:13] <hatch> bac ok no problem
[21:13] <hatch> bac so shall I get him to do it or does it look like ther eis going to be a lot of work for me to do?
[21:14] <hatch> just trying to decide what to start next?
[21:15] <bac> hatch: the error is in new js code that he wrote. so, i figure he can figure it out but help would be appreciated.
[21:15] <bac> hatch: i didn't dig in enough to even know what he's trying to accomplish
[21:15] <hatch> ok then maybe I'll wait until he gets back and assist with it
[21:15] <hatch> he should be starting pretty soon I think
[21:16] <bac> hatch: it may be as simple as he's looking for the wrong selector.  or, he may need to be defensive about checking for null if the selector isn't there
[21:17] <hatch> alright cool thanks
[21:17] <hatch> have a good one
[21:18] <bac> jujugui: i'm running locally and did a 'make deploy' followed by a set of juju-gui-source to use lp:juju-gui.  the latter gets stuck and never recovers.  i'm a bit perplexed as to why.  i've been chasing this for a couple of hours trying to QA my branch.  thoughts/
[21:18] <bac> s///?/
[21:18] <bac> wow, how'd that happen?
[21:18] <hatch> lol
[21:18] <rick_h_> bac: check the /var/log/juju/unit..... log 
[21:18] <bac> just tried to change the / to a ?
[21:18] <rick_h_> bac: that should have info if it failed to change source
[21:19] <bac> rick_h_: yeah i have but don't see anything good
[21:19] <rick_h_> bac: is the hook change event in there?
[21:19] <rick_h_> errr config change hook fire in there
[21:19] <bac> rick_h_: i've taken a new tack and just made a new release and stuffed it in the charm
[21:19] <bac> rick_h_: no err.  it does say it is preparing a change event and then goes away
[21:19] <gary_poster> jujugui small but cool quickstart review request: adds last step of autologin/authtoken work.  https://codereview.appspot.com/34420043
[21:20] <rick_h_> bac: machine log?
[21:20] <gary_poster> Makyo, call now?
[21:20] <Makyo> gary_poster, sure, same as on cal?
[21:21] <gary_poster> Makyo yes
[21:21] <bac> rick_h_: stuffing the release into the charm seems to be the fastest way to deploy.  it'll have to remain a mystery
[21:28] <bac> jujugui: small charm review and QA: https://codereview.appspot.com/34270044/
[21:33] <gary_poster> bac on it.
[21:34] <bac> gary_poster: i should rephrase "small review, pita QA"
[21:34] <gary_poster> heh
[21:34] <gary_poster> np
[21:34]  * gary_poster wishes local envs worked for him
[21:46] <hazmat> gary_poster, what's the issue?
[21:47] <gary_poster> hazmat, same one that I sent out over a month ago (I think you replied then).  still not working.  Tim could not dupe.  was told to go talk to Serge and lxc folks, and haven't gotten around to it
[21:49] <gary_poster> bac LGTM and QA good, no change
[21:50] <bac> gary_poster: great
[21:54] <hazmat> gary_poster, another option is using manual provider with ubuntu-cloud lxc containers. 
[21:54] <hazmat> needs trunk juju-core
[21:55] <hazmat> albeit assuming you have a working lxc
[21:55] <gary_poster> hazmat, ah right.  can help with some use cases, yes.  thanks.  will put on list to try.  I need to actually verify I have lxc working on this machine.  done lxc stuff on another
[22:12] <bac> Makyo: qa was fine.
[22:12]  * bac eod.  bye.
[22:16] <gary_poster> bye bac.  have fun
[22:17] <gary_poster> Makyo, stepping away, but will return later to see how review/qa went
[22:17] <Makyo> gary_poster, review okay, QAing now. frankban's branch doesn't work for me, but unrelated to his changes, so qaing yours now.
[22:17] <gary_poster> cool ty
[22:27] <huwshimi> Now that I have internet again...
[22:27] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:42] <hatch> hey huw
[23:02] <hatch> huwshimi if you need help getting your branch up and running lemme know
[23:02] <hatch> I should be around for a while yet
[23:03] <huwshimi> hatch: Yeah, trying to get it working at the moment...
[23:21] <huwshimi> Ah, fixed.
[23:26] <hatch> great
[23:27] <hatch> huwshimi I see in your email you added checks just for the tests - that's what we call a 'code smell' :)
[23:28] <hatch> adding code simply for a test is sometimes not a good thing
[23:28] <hatch> just keep that in mind :)
[23:29] <huwshimi> hatch: I realise, but we seem to do that a bunch for nodes that don't exist in tests.
[23:29] <hatch> yeah it's always a close call between requiring it for a test or making a check
[23:29] <hatch> we have the utils.makeContainer('id') method for just this purpose fyi
[23:31] <hatch> I have no idea what you're doing though so it could be a lot easier to just check in the app :)
[23:31] <huwshimi> hatch: Just proposing this branch. Would you mind having a look and see if you think I need to clean it up?
[23:31] <hatch> sure
[23:33] <huwshimi> hatch: https://codereview.appspot.com/34520043
[23:33] <hatch> cool on it
[23:35] <huwshimi> thanks!
[23:39] <hatch> huwshimi which bundle/charm did you use for testing?
[23:40] <huwshimi> hatch: Most of them should have content long enough to scroll..
[23:41] <huwshimi> hatch: You could look at the Readme tab on the Liferay charm
[23:41] <hatch> cool almost done
[23:44] <hatch> huwshimi done and qa done
[23:45] <hatch> little more work required - maybe I shouldn't have LGTM'd :P 
[23:45] <hatch> I'm hoping that the 'jumping' mentioned in the QA happens for you as well
[23:49] <huwshimi> Thanks I'll take a look
[23:55] <huwshimi> hatch: Not sure if I can stop that jump
[23:56] <hatch> huwshimi well you just add top and padding, can you maybe transition them with the header transition?
[23:56] <hatch> at the same 0.2s?
[23:56] <huwshimi> But then instead of a jump you'll have the text sliding around... isn't that worse for trying to read it?
[23:57] <huwshimi> hatch: The text would jump up and then slide down...