[00:09] <mikhas> valorie, actually, it's efficiency that does it for me, not productivity
[00:17] <valorie> yes, more/better work in the same time is really satisfying
[00:17] <valorie> fixing dinner, bbl
[01:09] <ScottK> yofel: Based on the discussion in #debian-qt-kde, I guess I'm OK with marble now.
[07:12] <soee> good morning
[07:12] <Tm_T> moin
[07:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:23] <Noskcaj> Is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1249528 a test bug or a bug in knotes?
[12:11] <Riddell> random e-mail du jour http://pastebin.kde.org/pyziwhiqb
[12:11] <Riddell> I'm pretty sure ubuntu dropped non-pae support a while ago and I presume they had a sensible reason for that
[12:12] <Riddell> yes https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE
[12:12] <apachelogger> at least he's saying sorry for being german
[12:21] <jussi> ahahahah
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:15] <Peace-> Riddell: i have installe archlinux chrooting a partition from ubuntu ... xD ... so is there a way to do the same thing on kubuntu ?
[13:16] <Peace-> Riddell: i mean i would like mount the partition ... and install kubuntu in that partition wiout the boring stuff boot from usb D:
[13:16] <Peace-> *without 
[13:22] <Riddell> Peace-: I don't understand, you want to create a kubuntu chroot?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[13:24] <Peace-> Riddell: i want to install in another partition  kubuntu , but of course i don't want do the boring process next next next bla bla :D , weeks ago i tried archlinux andi was able to install it using ubuntu mounting the partition and using arch-chroot 
[13:24] <Peace-> so i have installed archlinux from ubuntu xD
[13:24] <Riddell> good for automated install ubuntu
[13:24] <Riddell> google for automated install ubuntu
[13:24] <Peace-> good
[13:27] <Peace-> :S system-config-kickstart doesn't start
[13:27] <Peace-> anyway no problem 
[13:44] <ovidiu-florin> jussi: could I get some stickers for Christmas ?
[13:44] <jussi> ovidiu-florin: lets see. maybe. 
[13:45] <ovidiu-florin> please Santa
[13:47] <santa> ovidiu-florin: can be packaged in a *.deb?
[13:48] <ovidiu-florin> if I can print them then yes
[13:48] <ovidiu-florin> :P
[13:49] <Riddell> ScottK: cauchy in New if you want some post-holiday relaxation
[13:49] <ovidiu-florin> what do you guys think of this google map of OpenSUSE romanian users: http://www.suseromania.ro/despre-noi/ ?
[13:50] <ovidiu-florin> I like the ideea and I'd make one for Kubuntu
[13:50] <Riddell> yeah it's a fun way to build community
[13:50] <manchicken> Morning.
[13:50] <Riddell> kde used to have http://worldwide.kde.org/ but that's long since gone
[13:51] <Riddell> here's manchicken!
[13:51] <manchicken> Indeed.
[13:53] <jussi> ovidiu-florin: iirc, LP used to have such a feature
[14:06] <ovidiu-florin> https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zYpuT2LjYCLw.kig2rC4pVBg8
[14:06] <ovidiu-florin> who wants to add people please tell me so I can give you access
[14:18] <ovidiu-florin> I was thinking to add a separate Layer for each country
[14:18] <Riddell> that might get complex :)
[14:19] <ovidiu-florin> not really
[14:19] <ovidiu-florin> the interface is rather simple
[14:23] <Riddell> I mean the maintinance is complex
[14:23] <Riddell> start with romania first and then expand it
[14:24] <Riddell> oh also some people might dislike using google maps where openstreetmap would fit in nicer (but OSM is quite hard to do things like that map on I think)
[14:26] <ovidiu-florin> I did think of making a platform for this, but that seems rather complex and time consuming
[14:26] <ovidiu-florin> Google Maps already has this
[14:29] <Riddell> yeah
[14:45] <shadeslayer> ovidiu-florin: Riddell presumably you can make it in GMaps and export the data
[14:45] <shadeslayer> then import it in OSM
[14:46] <ovidiu-florin> It can be exported
[14:46] <ovidiu-florin> I've never used OSM
[14:46] <ovidiu-florin> so I'm not familiar with it
[14:46] <shadeslayer> http://maps.ubuntu.com/
[14:55] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: that's Google Maps
[14:55] <shadeslayer> yep
[14:59] <ovidiu-florin> Why should we use OSM? Google Maps reaches a wider audience
[15:00] <Riddell> google maps is fine
[15:00] <Riddell> it's just nicer to use a fellow open source project where possible but I don't think it's simple to do so here
[15:00] <ovidiu-florin> I agree
[15:01] <ovidiu-florin> But OSM still needs a lot of improvement
[15:01] <ovidiu-florin> and the maps are very outdated
[15:01] <ovidiu-florin> there isn't as much contribution to OSM as Google Maps
[15:06] <Riddell> that probably depends on where you are looking at, OSM is far more complete in edinburgh than google maps which is full of errors and only cares about roads
[15:06] <Riddell> but that's an interesting debate that doesn't concern kubuntu :)
[15:06] <shadeslayer> yofel: ping
[15:16] <shadeslayer> rdieter: fyi your patch doesn't work for me
[15:16] <rdieter> shadeslayer: was afraid of that. :(
[15:16]  * rdieter hasn't had a chance to test it yet
[15:17] <rdieter> Sho_ (the original) author though that maybe the new gpgme mode logic might get in the way, but wasnt entirely sure (its been a long time since he's looked at that code)
[15:17] <shadeslayer> I think so too
[15:18]  * shadeslayer emails Eike
[15:21] <rdieter> shadeslayer: he's already looked at it
[15:22] <rdieter> fwiw
[15:22] <shadeslayer> oh okay, email already sent :S
[15:24] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what do you mean by: start with romania first and then expand it ?
[15:26] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: for the map, launch a romania map first and see if anyone else wants to pick it up for elsewhere
[15:34] <ovidiu-florin> I was hoping you guys might also want to use it, thus providing more motivation for others to use it
[15:37] <Riddell> a kubuntu members map would be cool
[15:37] <Riddell> dunno if I want to take it on just due to time
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I can just add a layer to that map: Kubuntu Members
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> you can view all layers at a time
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> or just a single one
[15:40] <ovidiu-florin> Should I ?
[15:41] <Riddell> sure
[15:42] <shadeslayer> you can extract location info from LP
[15:43] <Riddell> good point
[15:47] <debfx> where can set your location in lp? I only see the time zone in /+editlocation
[15:47] <ovidiu-florin> exactly? where's the location in LP?
[15:51] <Riddell> it is only time zone
[15:51] <Riddell> which will usually give a city within a few hundred miles if not necessarily the same country
[15:53] <ovidiu-florin> time zone usually gives a few cities
[16:11] <Riddell> shadeslayer: did you try to sync avogadro from experimental?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: not sync, I have a package in my experimental PPA
[16:12] <shadeslayer> There are some minor things that need changing
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/avogadro_1.1.0-4ubuntu1%7Eppa1.dsc
[16:13] <shadeslayer> Riddell: if you could review, that'd be awesome
[16:20] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's the reason for libavogadro-dev dependency on libboost-python-dev and libpython2.7-dev?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> Riddell: yofel said that if we don't have those, it breaks kalzium
[16:22] <shadeslayer> though we /could/ just add them to kalzium build deps
[16:22] <shadeslayer> Riddell: see #ubuntu-release
[16:22] <Riddell> what does debian do?
[16:23] <Riddell> do we have specific problems with arm64?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> no, just flaky hardware causing things to be held back
[16:26] <Riddell> I guess everyone in ubuntu has to live with that
[16:26] <Riddell> shadeslayer: avogadro dpkg-source: error: Version number suggests Ubuntu changes, but Maintainer: does not have Ubuntu address
[16:27] <shadeslayer> *nod* can fix
[16:28] <shadeslayer> Riddell: anything else
[16:30] <Riddell> compiling
[16:31] <shadeslayer> cool
[16:40] <shadeslayer> Riddell: looking good?
[16:44] <debfx> ScottK: are you going to prepare quassel security updates?
[16:44] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you always look good
[16:44] <shadeslayer> :D
[16:46] <Riddell> it's a much bigger package to compile than I remember
[16:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: groovy, all good, go for it
[16:51] <shadeslayer> Riddell: oh awesome, my merging skills are still good it seems then :)
[16:51] <shadeslayer> haven't merged a package in quite a bit
[17:08] <Riddell> ScottK: have you looked at the new sip that's out?
[17:22] <shadeslayer> fwiw libiberty backported to saucy
[17:23] <shadeslayer> Riddell: re your circular dep fix, where was that done?
[17:24] <Guest90530> question can someone tell me how to format a comp that has kubuntu on it
[17:24] <shadeslayer> user support in #kubuntu
[17:25] <Guest90530> nobody knows  just support
[17:25] <Guest90530> all right thanks
[19:21] <yofel> could someone please upload 4.10.3 to saucy-proposed? I won't have time for it until the weekend
[19:21] <soee> yofel, how about this 2 packages from 4.11.95 >
[19:21] <yofel> let me check
[19:22] <yofel> ah right, kolab
[19:26] <yofel> uploaded what was missing, will check on it later
[19:29] <soee> yofel, thank you
[19:29] <soee> shouldnt the build script rerun ?
[19:30] <yofel> not if it's an actual failure, only dep-wait will auto-retry
[19:32] <soee> we are talking about http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_4.11.95_saucy.html right ?
[19:32] <yofel> right, what do you mean?
[19:33] <yofel> I had to upload 2 libs, there's no point in retrying until those are built
[19:33] <yofel> (they won't show up on that page though)
[19:33] <soee> ok thanks for explanation
[20:01] <shadeslayer> rdieter: Eike says you have it working?
[22:34] <Mic___> Greetings
[22:37] <rdieter> shadeslayer: not on 4.11.9x (not tested by me yet)
[22:53] <valorie> KDE Fedora users: http://goo.gl/maps/eEWNM
[22:54] <shadeslayer> rdieter: ack
[22:54] <valorie> also: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=99931
[22:55] <valorie> ovidiu-florin: I don't see how to add myself to your gmap
[22:56] <valorie> hmmm, the KDE map *is* the Fedora KDE users
[22:56] <valorie> them dirty rats
[22:57] <valorie> and yet i'm already on it
[22:57] <shadeslayer> heh
[22:57] <shadeslayer> rdieter clearly uses some underhanded tactics ;)
[22:57] <valorie> terrible
[23:02] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:04] <valorie> ahoneybun: did you read up on ovidiu-florin's idea of having a map of kubuntu users?
[23:07] <ahoneybun> nope
[23:08] <valorie> well, if you look at my links, you'll see that there is both a "Fedora KDE users" and a "KDE users" map
[23:08] <valorie> but they are the same thing
[23:10] <ahoneybun> I see the Fedora one
[23:10] <valorie> ovidiu-florin made https://mapsengine.google.com/map/edit?mid=zYpuT2LjYCLw.kig2rC4pVBg8
[23:10] <valorie> but i don't see how to edit it
[23:24] <santa_> hi
[23:25] <santa_> be careful if someone in ubuntu is going to sync libpqxx
[23:25] <santa_> it's going to make calligra ftbfs, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730632
[23:34] <kubotu> ::runtime-bugs:: [1255761] Can't configure country, languages, or spell checker @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1255761 (by Steve Riley)
[23:48] <ahoneybun> valorie, I don't see how to edit it either, what do you think of the disksetup page currently?
[23:48] <valorie> oh, I should look again
[23:48] <valorie> a couple of days ago it was looking great to me
[23:48] <valorie> what do you think?
[23:49] <ahoneybun> valorie, I think more could be added just need to think on it, also off-topic but the Fl Loco team is regrouping
[23:50] <valorie> cool!
[23:50] <valorie> that's not off-topic
[23:50] <valorie> there is more than one way to "develop" kubuntu
[23:50] <ahoneybun> yea just thought it might be
[23:59] <ahoneybun> valorie, think we can make it as done?