[00:02] <jarkko> i have to set setxkbmap fi on every now and then
[00:02] <jarkko> what's wrong?
[00:25] <tbruff13> can I ask for help with Knemo
[00:25] <tbruff13> the software will not run I use it for bandwidth monitoring
[01:32] <k01n> hello there :-), i need really urgent some help with installing JonDoFox to become more anonymous. It´s important for me, still at the moment....i use kubuntu, have already intsalled JonDo also downloaded the JonDoFox but i can´t get it installed. Someone a tip? I try some codes in the terminal but no functional.... I try all the diffent codes i found in the web to install this. What could be the fool? Hope someone can help me :-=
[01:33] <k01n> :-)
[01:49] <nafg________> .
[01:49] <nafg________> .
[01:50] <nafg______> .
[01:50] <nafg____> .
[01:50] <nafg__> .
[01:50] <nafg> whew
[01:50] <nafg> no more underscores
[01:57] <k01n> need help. hello there :-), i need really urgent some help with installing JonDoFox to become more anonymous. It´s important for me, still at the moment....i use kubuntu, have already intsalled JonDo also downloaded the JonDoFox but i can´t get it installed. Someone a tip? I try some codes in the terminal but no functional.... I try all the diffent codes i found in the web to install this. What could be the fool? Hope someone can help me :-=
[01:57] <k01n> :-)
[03:28] <Linuturk_kubuntu> so, I've got kubuntu installed
[03:29] <Linuturk_kubuntu> on a smaller SSD with encrypted LVM
[03:29] <Linuturk_kubuntu> I'd like to mount my /home on my extra, larger data disk
[03:29] <Linuturk_kubuntu> while still under the encrypted kvm
[03:29] <Linuturk_kubuntu> what's the best way to this?
[05:03] <kelly69> hello guys,
[05:05] <kelly69> i have a problem with "alt+shift" key to change between layout only alt+shift in the left of keyboard works the write one does not work, any idea
[05:09] <kelly69> anyboady here
[05:44] <vedu> hello. I am having a internet connection issue. Few applications connecting to the internet are working while the browser and a few others are not
[07:38] <oregon> I've got an issue with aptitude. I run "sudo aptitude update," then "sudo aptidude upgrade." No problem. Then if I run "sudo aptitude install" later, it wants to bring in a bunch of older kernels. Even if it just brought them in last time, it needs to download them and install them again. What can I do to prevent this?
[07:39] <ss_haze> oregon, you could do a barrel roll
[07:39] <oregon> What's that in this context?
[07:40] <ss_haze> but seriously,  you have small disk space for those kernels
[07:41] <jarkko> why dont you just use sudo apt-get update and upgrade?
[07:41] <oregon> I've got plenty of disk space. I'm nowhere near the limit.
[07:41] <ss_haze> http://askubuntu.com/questions/369105/what-is-ubuntus-policy-on-keeping-old-kernels
[07:41] <oregon> jarkko, there was a reason. I don't remember it. :)
[07:42] <jarkko> i have few issues myself with kubuntu
[07:42] <jarkko> i am not 100% sure but i feel like mint is a bit more finished
[07:43] <Tm_T> err, let's keep the discussion on kubuntu support, shall we?
[07:43] <ss_haze> I issues with kde not working like windows 7 ui, so I just use Unity, since it's ubuntu, but as they say, everyone have different taste
[07:43] <oregon> I come to #kubuntu for help and I get a suggestion to switch to mint... sigh
[07:43] <Tm_T> oregon: could you post the console output when using apt-get with the example of the issue please?
[07:44] <oregon> T, sure. Just copy and paste to here?
[07:44] <Tm_T> pastebin please
[07:46] <oregon> Not sure what pastebin is. I thought it might be another irc channel, but I don't see it.
[07:48] <kristal> Is there a KDE equivalent of psensors?
[07:48] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:50] <oregon> I tried to paste it at http://paste.kde.org as the channel title suggests, but their spam filter dropped it.
[07:53] <marco> hi all
[07:55] <Tm_T> oregon: what spamfilter?
[09:08] <nafg> Will the desktop start while upstart scripts are still running?
[09:14] <ozim> hi!
[09:14] <ozim> No russian lang here?
[09:15] <lordievader> !ru | ozim
[09:15] <ozim> thanx)
[09:15] <ozim>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[09:18] <alvin> How can I get rid of the message "Data files from some packages could not be downloaded". I reinstall flashplugin-installer/ everything works; but the message doesn't want to go away.
[09:19] <nafg> How can I write a startup script that will finish before the desktop environment greeter?
[09:21] <lordievader> alvin: Could you pastebin the full output?
[09:21] <lordievader> nafg: In upstart: "start on starting lightdm" will start the script just before lightdm is starting.
[09:22] <nafg> lordievader: I need lightm not to start until it's finished
[09:22] <nafg> It can start much earlier
[09:26] <lordievader> nafg: Perhaps the documentation can help you with that: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[09:26] <nafg> yes, i'm looking at it
[09:26] <nafg> i'm not convinced upstart is the way to go
[09:28] <nafg> because i don't think upstart waits until my script finishes
[09:30] <lordievader> nafg: "start on started <job>" I read here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/359468/upstart-start-after-task-finished
[09:31] <nafg> lordievader: that person does not have a working solution
[09:31] <nafg> But he's trying to do something different
[09:31] <nafg> He has control over the *second* job that has to wait for something to finish
[09:32] <nafg> I need to *prevent* the other job from starting until my job finished
[09:35] <lordievader> nafg: Ugh should've read more, sorry. Anyhow I did find that there is some kind of finish signal. So if you can modify the lightdm.conf to start on the finish event of your script I guess you're done.
[09:36] <nafg> i can't do that
[09:36] <nafg> too messy
[09:36] <nafg> this is an automated script to provision a kiosk
[09:36] <nafg> scripting such an edit will be too brittle
[09:40] <lordievader> nafg: You could make a lightdm.override, that should override the lightdm.conf.
[09:41] <nafg> Thank G-d, I think I found the answer: you have to mark it as a task
[09:41] <lordievader> There is a started event: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#starting-a-job Strange that it didn't work for that guy.
[09:41] <nafg> lordievader: what does that do?
[09:42] <nafg> no
[09:43] <nafg> sorry, it still doesn't work
[09:45] <nafg> I have an idea
[09:45] <nafg> simple: it doesn't really need to block lightdm; it can just restart it when it finishes
[10:14] <Promethes> when updating packages through muon will start work again? Since october muon updater not working as expected
[11:05] <jarkko>    35.016608] kded4[1772]: segfault at 10 ip 00007ffa914c5c20 sp 00007fff6af001d8 error 4 in libkscreen.so.1.0.1[7ffa914bc000+10000]
[11:20] <kaleissin> I upgraded to Kubuntu 13.10 yesterday and can no longer automount usb-disks. manual mounting works fine. any ideas?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:15] <ovidiu-florin> http://geekaliens.com/blog/2013/11/kubuntu-users-map/
[16:46]  * ronnoc really misses the alternate CD for Ku installs
[17:05] <dougl> quiet in here today
[17:23] <ovrflw0x> how can i remove kubuntu pic during boot?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> ovrflw0x: kubuntu pic?
[17:25] <shadeslayer> you mean the plymouth splash?
[17:25] <ovrflw0x> yes
[17:25] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get remove plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo
[17:26] <shadeslayer> ronnoc: you can use the mini iso
[17:30] <dougl> ovrflw0x, I just tricked out my asus gamers note book not one screen without custom image... is that what you are doing, err sec to chat?
[17:34] <ronnoc> shadeslayer: Oh yea! Or the server iso too I recon
[17:34] <shadeslayer> well server ISO probably installs other not required stuff
[17:34] <shadeslayer> ronnoc: I think alternate is only built for LTS now
[17:34] <dougl> shadeslayer, that "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo" is the word kubuntu with the 4 or 5 dots under it on boot?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> dougl: yes
[17:35] <shadeslayer> wait
[17:35] <ronnoc> shadeslayer: yea but there's a scrpt to remove the server-only stuffs IIRC
[17:35] <shadeslayer> dougl: no that's the text theme
[17:35] <shadeslayer> dougl: "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo" is the one with the glowy kubuntu log
[17:35] <shadeslayer> *logo
[17:36] <faryshta> hi. i am getting an error with umbrello every time i try to add a foreign key. The program simply crashes and i have to restart it
[17:36] <dougl> shadeslayer, right that is the one I have the glowing kubuntu - is there a way to put your own image there?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> faryshta: backtrace?
[17:36] <shadeslayer> dougl: sure
[17:36] <shadeslayer> dougl: just google for "Create plymouth themes"
[17:37] <ovrflw0x> shadeslayer: what does plymouth mean?
[17:37] <shadeslayer> ovrflw0x: it's the software that powers the boot splash screen
[17:37] <dougl> shadeslayer, <very happily> on my way to google = thanks so much.
[17:37] <shadeslayer> dougl: np
[17:39] <faryshta> shadeslayer: http://pastecode.org/index.php/view/53000848
[17:40] <shadeslayer> mmm
[17:40] <shadeslayer> faryshta: please install debugging symbols
[17:42] <faryshta> shadeslayer: which is the package name'
[17:42] <faryshta> ?
[17:42] <shadeslayer> faryshta: umbrello-dbg
[17:43] <faryshta> shadeslayer: may i ask why? this problem exists on ubuntu and windows.
[17:43] <shadeslayer> faryshta: so that you can report it upstream?
[17:45] <faryshta> shadeslayer: ok. downloading that package. i am at work with a crap internet will take half hour
[17:53] <faryshta> shadeslayer: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302120
[17:55] <faryshta> shadeslayer: the bug is already reported and 'fixed'
[17:56] <shadeslayer> faryshta: and you're using the latest KDE and what not?
[17:56] <faryshta> shadeslayer: i am using umbrello 2.11
[17:56] <faryshta> on windows the version is 2.10
[17:57] <shadeslayer> uh
[17:57] <shadeslayer> 2.11 ? o_o
[17:58] <faryshta> if you check the bug report you will see that people are still getting this error
[17:58] <faryshta> the last report was half a month ago
[17:58] <faryshta> its an open bug marked as fixed
[17:58] <shadeslayer> faryshta: the latest version I see is 4.11.95
[17:59] <shadeslayer> on kubuntu trusty
[17:59] <faryshta> shadeslayer: i was talking about the umbrello version
[17:59] <shadeslayer> me too
[17:59] <shadeslayer> !info umbrello trusty
[17:59] <faryshta> kde version is 4.11.2
[17:59] <faryshta> thats the kde information on the version
[17:59] <shadeslayer> on saucy it's probably 4.11.2
[18:00] <faryshta> kde version is 4.11.2
[18:00] <faryshta> umbrello is 2.11
[18:00] <shadeslayer> I see
[18:00] <faryshta> anyway. how can i ask the bug to be reopen?
[18:00] <shadeslayer> sure
[18:00] <shadeslayer> you just set the status to 'reopen'
[18:01] <faryshta> i have no account on bugs kde, nor a 'reputation' there
[18:02] <faryshta> so even if i make an account, my contribution will be ignored.
[18:02] <shadeslayer> no it won't
[18:03] <shadeslayer> KDE doesn't work like that :)
[18:03] <shadeslayer> crappy thing is that I can't even launch umbrello here
[18:06] <faryshta> can you report it please?
[18:07] <faryshta> there are many users still reporting that bug and the status haven't changed.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> nope, please make a account and add your backtrace there
[18:13] <faryshta> shadeslayer: won't do. again if they don't listen to all the users that keep reporting it they won't listen a new account either.
[18:14] <faryshta> its a waste of time, time to seek another tool
[18:14] <shadeslayer> sigh
[18:17] <shadeslayer> its fixed in 4.12
[19:02] <ss_haze> offtopic here
[19:02] <ss_haze> or what
[19:02] <lordievader> ss_haze: Read the topic...
[19:02] <ss_haze> it's like definition of that is defined in IdleOne book of law
[19:03] <ss_haze> consider things I wrote there as strings of data, not support questions
[19:17] <Unit193> ronnoc: If you need to use the Debian installer for some reason, you can still use the mini.iso (like netinst.iso) and select the "Kubuntu desktop" task.
[19:18] <ronnoc> Unit193: Thanks that looked like the way to go. Ubuntu does not release mini iso images anymore.
[19:20] <Unit193> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD sure it does, there's even trusty ones if you know where.
[19:33] <dougl> shadeslayer, you still around? followed a howto and it looks great while testing but when I boot it the aspect ratio is mess and the images look stretched horizoNtally and I am not sure what to google for - suggestions?
[19:34]  * dougl followed these instructions http://askubuntu.com/questions/248573/kde-how-to-change-boot-animation
[20:02] <dougl> Grumble grumble - what to google for to correct streched plymouth splash screen animation... suggestions welcom
[20:02] <dougl> e
[20:59] <dougl> for the life of me I cannot seem to google enough to resolve my aspect issue with my plymouth splash screen on my nvidia equipped 13.10 install using propietary drivers
[21:00] <dougl> although the screen I am wanting to tweak comes before nvidia splash so I gthink it is not an issue
[21:06] <dougl> how do you remove a source that just 404's?
[21:13] <rberg_> wow, I dont even see a splash screen with nvidia hardware due to modesetting weirdness
[21:47] <newboy> Hello. going to be a noob and ask how does this work?
[21:49] <ikonia> how does what work ?
[21:51] <James88> hey
[21:52] <newboy> this whole thing, I dont get the channels or the etiquette here, suggested I try this by a friend and told to figure it out.... but stumped thus far
[21:52] <soee> ?
[21:52] <Erthe> newboy: Just be polite and ask your questions
[21:53] <Erthe> That's pretty much the best etiquette I could suggest.
[21:53] <Erthe> If you have never used IRC before, just do a quick Google search
[21:54] <ikonia> newboy: ok, so lets give you the basics
[21:54] <ikonia> !guidelines | newboy
[21:54] <newboy> Erthe: ok, so i gather now that I direct responses with name: follow up... good start.... and how do move around and find other channels or is that client dependant?
[21:54] <ikonia> newboy: if you read the URL ubottu has given you, that will tell you what's expected of your interaction any channels in the ubuntu world
[21:55] <Erthe> newboy: Depending on the client you're using, a list of all the channels would be fetched a little differently
[21:55] <Erthe> newboy: But the IRC command would be /list
[21:56] <ikonia> newboy: if you join the channel #freenode (/join #freenode) and ask for an introduction, a fair few people will walk you through the basics
[21:58] <newboy> ikonia: thank you, will head there now for a run through. Ubottu: thank you for the URL reading that now. Erthe: Thank you, i'll attempt to not be a nugget next time, thank you all.
[21:59] <ikonia> newboy: no harm in ever asking
[21:59] <Erthe> newboy: Hey no problem, IRC was a bit daunting to me at first twenty some odd years ago, but it's easy to learn the basics in just a half an hour  :)
[22:05] <newboy> thanks again everyone, hopefully I'll come across you all again at some point - great first experience.
[23:39] <kristal> Anyone know an easy to sync my 2 computers running kubuntu? BOth running 13.10
[23:39] <kristal> I wat the match up the installed programs and home data
[23:47] <valorie> kristal: home data is easy: rsync
[23:48] <kristal> valorie: Ya that seems easy enough, although I'm left to wonder about packages
[23:49] <valorie> there is a blog post out there somewhere which tells you how to get that information and use it in an install
[23:49] <valorie> although unless both boxes are identical hardware, not everything will be exactly the saem
[23:49] <valorie> same
[23:50] <kristal> ya the hardware is different but the only diference package wise is the graphics drivers
[23:50] <kristal> fglrx for one and nvidia for the other
[23:52] <valorie> so be careful with the .config and .kde files -- some can be shared exactly, some not