[07:53] <dholbach> good morning
[09:30] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, ping
[09:31] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: hey
[09:31] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, hey, I looked into your code, and I can confirm you’re hitting bug #1218971
[09:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1218971 in Autopilot Qt Support "QQuickWindow’s contentItem is not accessible" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1218971
[09:32] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, the dialog calls show() in Component.onCompleted, which reparents it to the root item
[09:32] <oSoMoN> nerochiaro, so your best bet is to work with mzanetti to get the fix for autopilot-qt merged and released
[09:33] <mzanetti> or even better some of the autopilot devs ;)
[09:33] <mzanetti> ah that one
[09:33] <mzanetti> hmm... I wonder what it didn't merge
[09:33] <oSoMoN> there is already a pending MR, which I tested a while ago and it fixed the bug, so it’s only a matter of figuring out why it doesn’t merge anymore
[09:33] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, I commented on the MR, it fails to compile for some reason
[09:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Pins and Needles Day! :-D
[09:35] <mzanetti> :D
[09:36] <nerochiaro> oSoMoN: mzanetti: looks like you guys might save my bacon once again ;) anything i can do to help ?
[09:37] <mzanetti> not really at the moment
[10:12] <timppa> Hi! Is it possible to create a text file and save it to a specific location in Ubuntu Touch app?
[10:12] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: nerochiaro: seems xpathselect did a rework of the api and it would require autopilot-qt to adjust most of its code :/
[10:12] <oSoMoN> :/
[10:12] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, how much work would that imply?
[10:12] <nerochiaro> mzanetti: that's also probably why autopilot vis is crashing
[10:12] <nerochiaro> it gave xml errors
[10:13] <mzanetti> timppa: yes it is, as long as the specific location is within the allowed paths from apparmor
[10:13] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, who is the maintainer of autopilot-qt these days?
[10:13] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: hmm... dunno. I just tried to do it, but it doesn't stop spitting more error
[10:13] <mzanetti> s
[10:14] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: well. I was it so far, but yesterday I contacted the autopilot devs and we agree that they pick it up again (given that I'm no QE since quite a while now and unity8 has a tendency to keep me quite busy too)
[10:14] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: I told them about the isse that 1.4 hasn't been released to the ppa yet and I think Thomi is looking into that soon
[10:15] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: which probably would imply getting it's api updated
[10:15] <oSoMoN> mzanetti, makes sense, so I should bug Thomi, right?
[10:15] <mzanetti> oSoMoN: please do
[10:15] <oSoMoN> will do for sure :)
[10:15] <mzanetti> thanks
[10:23] <timppa> mzanetti: Is there any documentation regarding the apparmor?
[10:24] <timppa> mzanetti: Or can I add the paths to .json file myself?
[10:26] <mzanetti> timppa: no, you can't add the paths yourself
[10:26] <mzanetti> timppa: I just googled a bit for the docs but couldn't find anything
[10:26] <mzanetti> timppa: basically it is ~/.config/<appid>/
[10:26] <mzanetti> ~/.cache/appId/
[10:27] <mzanetti> timppa: those 2 for sure. probably some few others too. but I don't recall them
[10:31] <mzanetti> popey: do you know about any apparmor docs related to ubuntu touch?
[10:31] <popey> only on the wiki
[10:31] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement
[10:31] <mzanetti> popey: I couldn't find anywhere what the allowed paths for applications are
[10:33] <mzanetti> ah. here it is
[10:33] <mzanetti> timppa: Specifically: XDG_CACHE_HOME/<APP_PKGNAME>, XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/confined/<APP_PKGNAME>, XDG_DATA_HOME/<APP_PKGNAME> and XDG_CONFIG_HOME/<APP_PKGNAME>
[10:33] <popey> mzanetti: http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/qml/cookbook/files-and-storage/
[10:36] <timppa> thanks! I think I'll can get going with those
[10:37] <mzanetti> timppa: if you're using Qt, you can use QStandardPaths to get those
[10:38] <timppa> great!
[11:43] <mzanetti> popey: do you know if there are plans for a real app store app?
[11:44]  * popey points mzanetti at beuno 
[11:44] <mzanetti> beuno: already in development?
[11:53] <dholbach> mzanetti, real app store app?
[11:54] <mzanetti> dholbach: well, an app store as an app instead of a scope plugin
[11:54] <dholbach> mzanetti, I don't know of any plans
[11:54] <mzanetti> :/
[11:54] <dholbach> mzanetti, you could bring it up on ubuntu-appstore-developers@lists.lp.net
[11:54] <mzanetti> the current solution doesn't scale
[11:54] <dholbach> and maybe explain what kind of functionality you're looking for
[11:55] <mzanetti> also, if I disable searching for remote content in systemsetting I can't install any apps any more
[11:55] <dholbach> is it discovering of apps/categories/etc?
[11:55] <mzanetti> yeah, that too
[11:56] <dholbach> so for discovering of apps/categories/etc there are plans from the design team, but I'm not sure when those things are going to land, thostr_ might be a contact person for that
[11:56] <dholbach> if you think you should be able to disable remote content, but still have apps, or have a better indication of what's happening when you disabled the setting, I'd suggest filing a bug about it
[12:29] <beuno> mzanetti, what do you mean by a real app store app?
[12:29] <beuno> ah
[12:30] <beuno> mzanetti, it will still be a scope
[12:30] <beuno> but scopes will get more interesting in 14.04
[12:30] <mzanetti> beuno: but that still means I have to have online searching enabled in order to install any new app?
[12:33] <beuno> mzanetti, not sure. The apps are online, so that scope needs to reach out to the internet
[15:22] <mhall119> popey: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1rkq6z/ubuntu_evernote_app_sees_first_feature_milestone/
[15:22]  * popey upboats
[15:22] <popey> ta
[15:24] <mhall119> np
[17:05] <mefrio> hi guys....do you know how can I install the QtQuick.Layouts module on Ubuntu 13.10?
[17:07] <t1mp> mefrio: I never tried it (should have a look at it soon). But I like to let you know that we also have Ubuntu.Layouts: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/Ubuntu.Layouts/
[17:08] <mefrio> t1mp, I need to use this element: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquicklayouts/qml-qtquick-layouts1-gridlayout.html
[17:12] <t1mp> mefrio: ok. sorry, dunno.
[17:12] <mefrio> t1mp, no problem :)
[17:16] <mefrio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-meta/+bug/1251927
[17:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1251927 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "QtQuick.Dialogs missing" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:16] <mefrio> :(
[17:17] <aquarius> mhall119, is there anything at all explaining which cordova APIs are available to touch apps?
[17:27] <mhall119> aquarius: we're still working on that
[17:27] <mhall119> aquarius: unfortunately there's not a lot working right now on non-x86
[17:28] <mhall119> aquarius: join #ubuntu-webapps and talk to dbarth and alex_abreu for the details so far
[17:35] <mzanetti> popey: when you have some time, could you please test if this works for you? lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/use-ssl
[17:35] <mzanetti> some really weird things happening here and I don't trust my setup any more :D
[17:38] <popey> sure
[17:38] <popey> mzanetti: can i just branch that and use the script?
[17:38] <mzanetti> popey: yeah
[17:38] <popey> k
[17:39] <popey> love that script btw
[17:39] <mzanetti> it's taken from unity8
[17:39] <mzanetti> and has gone through a number of transitions to tailor it better for apps
[17:39] <mzanetti> all of my apps have this in the repo
[17:40] <popey> oh sweet
[17:40] <popey> you should blog about it, other app devs might like it
[17:40] <popey> would also be useful with the emulator ☻
[17:41] <mzanetti> popey: works for me with the emulator
[17:41] <popey> nice
[17:41] <mzanetti> as long as there is no device attached. otherwise it gets confused because it finds 2 devices
[17:41] <mzanetti> but you can select which one you want by exporting ANDROID_SERIAL
[17:41] <mzanetti> to the serial number that "adb devices" gives
[17:46] <mhall119> popey: http://developer.ubuntu.com/2013/11/community-driven-core-apps-convergence/
[17:46] <popey> mzanetti: it barfs when i select user
[17:46] <mzanetti> mhm... which error?
[17:47] <popey> mzanetti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6485482/
[17:47] <popey> mhall119: Excellent!
[17:47] <mzanetti> popey: thanks
[17:47] <popey> np
[17:48] <popey> mhall119: lets spread that far and wide! :D
[17:49] <mhall119> spreading
[17:50] <nik90> popey,mhall119: Can you create an event in the app developer G+ community for the upcoming design clinic? That will make it much easier to keep track of when it happens
[17:50] <mhall119> nik90: good question, I've never tried
[17:51] <popey> hmm
[17:52] <popey> need a way to add the hangout url
[17:52] <popey> which we run from the ubuntuonair account
[17:52] <popey> messy
[17:52] <popey> we could and then add the url at the moment we go live
[17:52] <mhall119> nik90: https://plus.google.com/events/cr2siiehpk565h37p272b6846f4
[17:52] <nik90> popey: It allows you to create an event out of a hangout, but not sure about adding an url to it
[17:53] <mhall119> popey: I just added ubuntuonair.com as the website
[17:53] <popey> that'll do ☻
[17:55] <nik90> popey: cant you add ubuntuonair account as one of the moderator of the g+ hangout?
[17:55] <nik90> popey: this way that accoutn can plan a hangout event
[17:55] <popey> no
[17:55] <popey> because uoa has a youtube account
[17:55] <popey> it all gets very messy
[17:56] <nik90> okay
[17:59] <mzanetti> popey: hmm... it works here. on the desktop and on the phone... really weird
[17:59] <popey> erk
[17:59] <mzanetti> popey: but it didn't work before. only after I installed libssl0.9.8 and compiled it with that
[18:00] <mzanetti> popey: but the weird thing is that I have removed that again and it still works
[18:44]  * greyback eod
[18:51] <aquarius> mhall119, thanks
[18:53] <mhall119> aquarius: np
[22:56] <WebbyIT> Hi popey :-) Shall you approve this branch for calendar please? Kunal has approved it, and finally also Jenkins! It needs only 'approve' status
[22:56] <WebbyIT> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calendar-app/1240152/+merge/193191
[22:57] <popey> WebbyIT: hey
[22:59] <WebbyIT> thanks popey :-)
[23:00] <popey> np