| Kilos | morning all | 05:46 |
|---|---|---|
| tehblazemobile | Hi kilos | 05:46 |
| Kilos | haha you made a typo on the mobile tehblazemobile | 05:46 |
| Kilos | hows exams going? | 05:46 |
| tehblazemobile | Nah its on purpose | 05:47 |
| tehblazemobile | Fixed name is registered on nickserv | 05:47 |
| tehblazemobile | Didnt want to identify | 05:47 |
| Kilos | ah | 05:47 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mornings | 06:18 |
| tehblazen | Morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:18 |
| superfly | morning ThatGraemeGuy, tehblazen, Kilos | 06:29 |
| tehblazen | Morning superfly | 06:29 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:30 |
| superfly | hi inetpro | 06:30 |
| inetpro | what do you guys use to paste screenshots for quick sharing? | 06:30 |
| inetpro | ala pastebin style | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i take screenshots with shutter and it has an "export to imgur" plugin | 06:31 |
| superfly | imgur, imagebin, there are a few others | 06:31 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | here's an example... time me :-P | 06:32 |
| tehblazen | I use the imgur screenshot addon for gnome shell | 06:32 |
| Kilos | hiya superfly inetpro ThatGraemeGuy | 06:32 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://i.imgur.com/UM9JuYz.png | 06:32 |
| Kilos | imageshack | 06:32 |
| inetpro | interesting, thanks guys | 06:33 |
| Kilos | find the quickest easiest one and tell me too inetpro | 06:35 |
| inetpro | I like the idea of ThatGraemeGuy | 06:36 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I like shutter because it has some basic editing stuff as well if you want to highlight specific areas, etc. | 06:37 |
| inetpro | KSnapshot also has a direct function to export images directly to external services | 06:37 |
| inetpro | press PrintScreen and Export to... | 06:38 |
| Kilos | ah shutter is in the repos | 06:41 |
| Kilos | ty ThatGraemeGuy | 06:41 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | np | 06:42 |
| Kilos | you see i was chastised on the list | 06:42 |
| inetpro | unfortunately shutter is a gnome thing | 06:48 |
| Kilos | aw | 06:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I use shutter under KDE, what's the issue? | 06:54 |
| Kilos | lol he dont like to put gnome stuff in his kde | 06:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | oh | 06:57 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | meh | 06:57 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: nice if it works, just thought it would be nice to have something native | 06:58 |
| Kilos | it installs lotsa stuff even in unity | 06:59 |
| Kilos | perl stuff too | 06:59 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i see no value in limiting myself to DE-specific apps | 07:02 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but that's just me | 07:02 |
| Kilos | mine kde and unity are both mixes of both, like k3b is the best writer app methinks | 07:03 |
| Vince-0 | Surp! Oh gosh its only Wednesday | 07:07 |
| superfly | inetpro: install the kipi plulings | 07:12 |
| superfly | *plugins | 07:12 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: do you need to register for imgur? | 07:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | nope, it uploads anonymously | 07:14 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can configure your imgur account if you have one, but its not a requirement | 07:14 |
| inetpro | superfly: I had kipi plugins installed already, just don't have imgur or imageschack on the list | 07:14 |
| inetpro | ThatGraemeGuy: so after installing shutter what do you do next? | 07:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | um.... run it? :-) | 07:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or map it to prtsrn if you want | 07:16 |
| inetpro | ahh... so you don't use PrintScreen at all | 07:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | I could, I've just never bothered :-) | 07:17 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 07:18 |
| inetpro | it doesn't like selecting my quassel window | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | weird | 07:19 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | you can select a specific window from the drop-down next to "Window" on the toolbar | 07:20 |
| inetpro | tried that even | 07:21 |
| inetpro | still auto selects my konsole screen when I choose the Quassel window | 07:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | that's odd, not sure why that would be | 07:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | never had anything like that, and i've been using it for years | 07:22 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | must be a P.I.C.N.I.C. error :-p | 07:22 |
| inetpro | anyway... I'll play around, not important right now | 07:22 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 08:35 |
| nlsthzn | good morning uncle Kilos , how are you? | 08:36 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 08:36 |
| Kilos | im working hard trying to find stuff to built a wifi yagi | 08:36 |
| Kilos | http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html | 08:38 |
| Kilos | wanna see if it can reach a telkom hotspot 7 ks away | 08:39 |
| nlsthzn | I am fine thanks... starting work again this coming Saturday, but before then going to take the wife for some alone time to the big city as it is our wedding anniversary... | 08:50 |
| Kilos | congrats | 08:50 |
| nlsthzn | thanks... | 08:50 |
| nlsthzn | no big milestone yet but we are working on it :p | 08:51 |
| Kilos | every year is a milestone | 08:51 |
| Kilos | only them things cost more | 08:51 |
| Kilos | paper aniversary is good | 08:51 |
| Kilos | gold and diamond not so good | 08:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 6th anniversary is sugar/iron apparently | 08:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i'll get my wife a bag of fizzers and a new pan | 08:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-D | 08:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:54 |
| Kilos | get here a tool that you can borrow | 08:55 |
| Kilos | pliers or something | 08:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hahaha | 08:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | we're actually doing a weekend away, free of kids | 08:56 |
| Kilos | nice | 08:56 |
| nlsthzn | we are on wood currently :p | 08:58 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 08:58 |
| nlsthzn | so I got her some fossilized wood pendant and chain from a native American reservation... | 08:59 |
| Kilos | lol | 08:59 |
| Kilos | better woulda been a wooden spoon to make pap with | 08:59 |
| nlsthzn | wood and/or electrical appliances | 08:59 |
| nlsthzn | more like a wooden spoon to moer me with | 09:00 |
| nlsthzn | pardon the fench | 09:00 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:00 |
| Private_User | morning all or should I say good day since morning is almost over ;) hehe | 09:15 |
| Kilos | ohi Private_User | 09:16 |
| Private_User | hi Kilos, hows it going? | 09:16 |
| Kilos | good ty and you? | 09:16 |
| Private_User | all good :) | 09:18 |
| Private_User | can I ask a question that is not related to ubuntu? | 09:21 |
| somefire | Private_User go ahead | 09:21 |
| somefire | Also, hi | 09:21 |
| Kilos | ask on my channel first | 09:21 |
| Private_User | hi somefire | 09:21 |
| Kilos | hi somefire | 09:21 |
| Private_User | ok Kilos | 09:21 |
| Kilos | if its for windows help ask there | 09:22 |
| Kilos | somefire, join ##kilos | 09:22 |
| somefire | Kilos will do | 09:22 |
| Kilos | his question is ok here methinks | 09:23 |
| Kilos | somefire, welcome to ubuntu-za | 09:25 |
| Kilos | or you just using another nick on the droid device | 09:25 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 09:25 |
| somefire | Kilos im theblazehen :p just on mobile | 09:25 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:25 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 09:25 |
| somefire | Morning mazal | 09:25 |
| mazal | Nee oom ek het niks gebreek nie | 09:26 |
| mazal | Nie wat ek van weet nue anyway :P | 09:26 |
| Kilos | Private_User, ask it here lets see whos brain is wide awake | 09:26 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:26 |
| Private_User | What is the missing number in the sequence shown? | 09:27 |
| Private_User | 1 - 8 - 27 - ? - 125 - 216 | 09:27 |
| somefire | 64 | 09:27 |
| mazal | No idea | 09:28 |
| Private_User | how did you get 64? | 09:28 |
| somefire | 4^3 | 09:28 |
| Kilos | sis says 46 | 09:28 |
| somefire | 1^3, 2^3, 3^3, 4^3, etc | 09:29 |
| Private_User | imppresive | 09:29 |
| Private_User | excellent somefire | 09:29 |
| Kilos | whats the ^ do | 09:30 |
| somefire | Thanks :) | 09:30 |
| somefire | To the power of | 09:30 |
| mazal | 2^3 = 2x2x2 oom | 09:30 |
| Kilos | didnt the to the power of just be a number before | 09:31 |
| mazal | The current 13.10 , is it Unity 7 or 8 ? | 09:34 |
| somefire | Another puzzle: http://imgur.com/ZYdLkK7 | 09:35 |
| nlsthzn | unity 7 | 09:37 |
| Kilos | mazal, you must try kde man | 09:39 |
| Kilos | 13.10 kubuntu flies | 09:39 |
| mazal | My kop is te seer om weer 'n nuwe ding te leer | 09:40 |
| Kilos | mind you i havent tried unity in 13.10 | 09:40 |
| Kilos | kde has lotsa tools | 09:40 |
| mazal | I know Unity well now and don't want to change. KDE is like having to learn a whole new OS again | 09:41 |
| Kilos | if i could learn it, you wont battle | 09:42 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:42 |
| psyatw | hi mazal | 09:42 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 09:42 |
| mazal | And I'm worried about major apps that won't work , like DVDstyler for example. Didn't even work in the new Unity , so might not even work on KDE also | 09:44 |
| Kilos | is that an outside app mazal ? | 09:45 |
| Kilos | or in repos | 09:45 |
| mazal | Repos | 09:46 |
| Kilos | guys like inetpro superfly ThatGraemeGuy all use kde | 09:46 |
| mazal | That's one of the things that forced me to go back to 12.04 | 09:46 |
| mazal | Didn't even work on 13.04 | 09:46 |
| Kilos | i think the kubuntu guys do a bit more polishing | 09:46 |
| somefire | Kilos: i used to use kde | 09:47 |
| mazal | And there was a 2nd app as well that I can't remember now | 09:47 |
| Kilos | 13.10 installs in 12 mins here | 09:47 |
| Kilos | they have really work on the speed | 09:47 |
| Kilos | maybe you must stay 12.04 till 14.04 is stable | 09:48 |
| Kilos | or cut gf time down | 09:48 |
| mazal | No way , gf way more fun than a pc | 09:50 |
| mazal | If my life weren't so full I would really have liked to play with and learn Kubuntu. But I just don't have the time for that. | 09:50 |
| psyatw | I even have 10.04 on my desktop back in the Netherlands | 09:51 |
| Kilos | its actuall very easy once you know the basics and thats 10 mins | 09:51 |
| psyatw | just because of some applications that stopped working on newer releases | 09:51 |
| Kilos | you must also look at kde psyatw | 09:52 |
| psyatw | but these days I use kubuntu | 09:52 |
| Kilos | aha | 09:52 |
| psyatw | Kilos, I use it | 09:52 |
| Kilos | convince mazal its easy | 09:52 |
| psyatw | I just stopped using it during the early kde 4 days because it was so buggy | 09:52 |
| psyatw | well, for me only kubuntu is usable | 09:53 |
| Kilos | 13.10 is really good | 09:53 |
| psyatw | I am on 13.04 and it´s working fine for me, so I don´t really see a reason to upgrade | 09:53 |
| Kilos | just speed they worked on i think | 09:54 |
| Kilos | kde was a bit heavy on old pcs | 09:54 |
| psyatw | especially because I´m running it off an external usb hard drive, so I don´t want to mess with fixing the bootloader again | 09:54 |
| psyatw | oh, I know | 09:54 |
| psyatw | kde 3 was fine, but kde 4 far too heavy | 09:54 |
| Kilos | isnt the new one 4? | 09:55 |
| psyatw | during the early radeonhd days when acceleration didn´t really work, kde 4 was excruciatingly slow | 09:55 |
| psyatw | yes, it is | 09:55 |
| psyatw | but I´ve been using linux at home since 2000 | 09:55 |
| Kilos | its faster here than 3 then | 09:55 |
| Kilos | kde 3 install takes 25 mins and 4 takes 12 | 09:56 |
| psyatw | hmm | 09:56 |
| psyatw | how do you even install kde 3 these days? | 09:56 |
| psyatw | or some old distribution, you mean? | 09:56 |
| Kilos | ya i have the isos burned to dvd | 09:56 |
| Kilos | 12.04 in unity kde the x thing | 09:57 |
| psyatw | oh, I see | 09:59 |
| mazal | psyatw, does that Kubuntu you run of an external work on different pc's ? | 10:01 |
| psyatw | mazal, yes, it does | 10:01 |
| psyatw | I am not sure if it´s completely stable, though | 10:02 |
| mazal | That's how work as well , take my OS with me to work and to home and work on both | 10:02 |
| psyatw | and if that has to do with the fact that it´s running off usb | 10:02 |
| psyatw | yes | 10:02 |
| mazal | Mine is fine of USB , starts off slow but once everything is cached I hardly notice that I work on usb | 10:02 |
| Kilos | only prob with 13.10 is the short support | 10:03 |
| Kilos | so we wait for 14.04 lts | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron | 10:09 |
| nuvolari | o/ hello | 10:44 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 10:44 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 10:45 |
| somefire | Hi nuvolari | 10:45 |
| mazal | Kilos, I still say Ubuntu must change to releasing one a year only and make every release a great one with 3 years support | 10:52 |
| mazal | *once | 10:52 |
| Kilos | ya that would be lekker mazal | 10:53 |
| mazal | I will also be of the opinion that too short release cycles causes less development , less testing and more bugs | 10:53 |
| Kilos | i dont know enough to voice an opinion | 10:55 |
| somefire | Hi charl | 10:57 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 10:57 |
| inetpro | mazal: a 2 year LTS cycle is just perfect for me, others prefer rolling releases, which is even worse than twice a year | 10:57 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 10:57 |
| somefire | inetpro i prefer rolling release :D | 10:58 |
| charl | hi somefire | 10:58 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 10:58 |
| inetpro | I think the six month cycle has worked quite well so far | 10:58 |
| mazal | This 6 month cycle with short support and is like Ubuntu is using it's user base as beta testers for the next LTS | 10:59 |
| Kilos | and dont forget some of the dev guys are like you with the gf prob | 11:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:00 |
| mazal | Even more reason to make release cycles longer Kilos | 11:00 |
| charl | hi mazal | 11:01 |
| mazal | Hi charl | 11:01 |
| charl | when it comes to release cycles i think you'll never get everyone to see eye-to-eye | 11:02 |
| charl | i have moved back to debian now for my office pc but out of necessity more than choice | 11:02 |
| mazal | Yeah , I think a lot depends on what the user uses his pc also that affect his/her opinion | 11:02 |
| charl | personally, in a VM, i'm more than happy to have the latest and the greatest | 11:04 |
| nuvolari | hello superfly, mazal, inetpro, somefire | 11:04 |
| charl | but as my host OS i need something that is stable and won't break vmware with a kernel upgrade | 11:04 |
| charl | hi nuvolari | 11:04 |
| charl | hi fierychicken | 11:12 |
| fierychicken | Hi charl. Btw im also somefire and theblazehen | 11:12 |
| charl | how the heck are we supposed to keep track of you with your multiple personality disorder :) | 11:14 |
| fierychicken | Lol nah, got a bad mobile connection :p | 11:14 |
| fierychicken | Dont want to wait for the ping timeouts always | 11:14 |
| fierychicken | And theblazehen is logged in on my pc | 11:15 |
| fierychicken | Stuck at school till 5pm | 11:15 |
| fierychicken | Nothing else to do but irc | 11:15 |
| charl | what about studying? :) | 11:15 |
| fierychicken | Wrote last exam today | 11:16 |
| fierychicken | No more studying! | 11:16 |
| charl | awesome ! | 11:16 |
| charl | how did it go? | 11:16 |
| fierychicken | Well i think :) get report on wednesday | 11:16 |
| Kilos | haha is that you blaze | 11:28 |
| charl | fierychicken: holding thumbs ! | 11:28 |
| fierychicken | Kilos yep :p || charl thanks :) | 11:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:29 |
| Kilos | sounds like you just ate some zinger wings or whatever they call them | 11:37 |
| fierychicken | Lol yeah :p | 11:38 |
| inetpro | mazal: the 6 month releases are pretty stable | 12:07 |
| inetpro | please don't underestimate the time and energy that goes into the whole development process | 12:08 |
| mazal | Not for me inetpro , both 12.10 and 13.04 had major issues with some off the apps I use | 12:08 |
| inetpro | did you log a bug? | 12:09 |
| mazal | Is 3rd party apps | 12:09 |
| mazal | Not ubuntu apps | 12:09 |
| inetpro | then don't blame Ubuntu/Canonical | 12:09 |
| mazal | The biggest problem though is the time it takes | 12:10 |
| mazal | A basic user that does bare minimals that comes already loaded is fine to re-install every 6 months. But for me it takes 2 days to add and configure everything that is needed | 12:11 |
| mazal | That's just too much for every 6 months | 12:11 |
| charl | mazal: you *could* simply attempt an upgrade instead of a reinstall | 12:14 |
| charl | these days upgrades generally work pretty well | 12:15 |
| mazal | Yeah I want to try that one day , but since I decided to stick with LTS that is not really an option for me personally | 12:19 |
| charl | might as well... stability ftw | 12:24 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , enjoy the evening | 12:46 |
| Trixar_za | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_commit.png <--- well that's pretty accurate | 13:25 |
| nuvolari | +1 | 13:25 |
| nuvolari | driving me nuts | 13:25 |
| nuvolari | but what can you do sometimes? :P | 13:26 |
| Trixar_za | It's just annoying making commit comments if you do a LOT of bug fixing | 13:27 |
| Trixar_za | And you can't really type "Fixed the screw up I made three commits ago..." | 13:27 |
| nuvolari | that's why git should be used properly with feature branches and stuff | 13:32 |
| nuvolari | wish we could adapt git. It's painful struggling with svn each day | 13:32 |
| Kilos | wbb | 14:56 |
| nuvolari | home time \o/ | 15:03 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 15:09 |
| Kilos | hi tal0n | 15:19 |
| Kilos | oh and tinuva too | 15:19 |
| tal0n | hi Kilos | 15:21 |
| Kilos | i need some info from a ham methinks | 15:21 |
| Kilos | maybe with antenna building knowledge | 15:21 |
| Kilos | what is a pigtail on a yagi? the connector? | 15:22 |
| nuvolari | oh hi | 16:59 |
| nuvolari | o/ oom Kilos, tal0n | 16:59 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 17:00 |
| Kilos | i see stuff about black friday. is that a certain friday or every friday? | 17:11 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: eh? | 17:21 |
| nuvolari | I'm not sure, I think it's the friday before or after thanksgiving | 17:22 |
| nuvolari | Black Friday is the Friday following Thanksgiving Day in the United States, often regarded as the beginning of the Christmas shopping season. | 17:22 |
| Kilos | aha ty | 17:24 |
| inetpro | what number starts with 061, is that local? | 17:57 |
| * inetpro 's mother in law got a call from 0614955974 today trying to defraud her | 17:59 | |
| inetpro | tried convincing her that there was money paid into her account incorrectly | 18:00 |
| inetpro | good evening | 18:00 |
| inetpro | luckily she didn't fall for it | 18:01 |
| charl | terrible | 18:03 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 18:04 |
| Kilos | somewhere in the cape methinks inetpro | 18:14 |
| tumbleweed | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_South_Africa | 18:14 |
| tumbleweed | cellular, apparently | 18:14 |
| Kilos | tell her to call her provider and have them blacklisted | 18:16 |
| Kilos | 01 is tvl 03 is natal | 18:17 |
| tumbleweed | kilos showing his age :) | 18:18 |
| Kilos | oh my has it changed | 18:18 |
| Kilos | sorry | 18:18 |
| tumbleweed | I suppose transvaal is the best way to describe 01 | 18:18 |
| tumbleweed | never mind | 18:18 |
| Kilos | oh you mean the gauteng thing | 18:19 |
| tumbleweed | yeah :P | 18:19 |
| tumbleweed | but it's more than just that | 18:19 |
| Kilos | lol my head cant add that all as well | 18:19 |
| Kilos | you home tumbleweed ? | 18:20 |
| tumbleweed | no, still in San Francisco | 18:20 |
| tumbleweed | just having a late breakfast | 18:20 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 18:22 |
| Kilos | inetpro, storm coming | 18:22 |
| inetpro | Kilos: how long do I have? | 18:23 |
| Kilos | you are at home | 18:23 |
| Kilos | still storming to the south of us now | 18:24 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: thanks for the link | 18:24 |
| inetpro | so that looks like CellC to me | 18:24 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: of course, it's also possible for cellphone numbers to be ported, so one never knows for sure, wihout checking the porting database | 18:25 |
| inetpro | oops, 8ta | 18:25 |
| inetpro | tumbleweed: eish! True | 18:26 |
| inetpro | so is the porting db accessible? | 18:26 |
| tumbleweed | inetpro: https://www.porting.co.za/PublicWebsite/ | 18:27 |
| inetpro | great! thanks tumbleweed | 18:28 |
| inetpro | The number 0614955974 has not been ported and is still serviced by TELKMOBL. | 18:29 |
| Kilos | wow | 18:29 |
| Kilos | tumbleweed, do you keep all this info in your head or you a google expert | 18:33 |
| inetpro | so where does one report something like this? | 18:38 |
| Kilos | with you provider | 18:38 |
| Kilos | from the fone that was used | 18:39 |
| Kilos | i dont think that peter guy does it as well | 18:39 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you think, or you don't think? | 18:41 |
| Kilos | dont | 18:41 |
| inetpro | :) | 18:41 |
| Kilos | peter does it when you got probs with your provider i think | 18:42 |
| inetpro | yep | 18:42 |
| Kilos | jy tender vir n houd overal | 18:42 |
| Kilos | hout | 18:42 |
| inetpro | ai! | 18:42 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: I remember that things exist, and then hit google | 18:49 |
| Kilos | wow | 18:50 |
| Kilos | well done | 18:50 |
| Kilos | evening superfly | 18:50 |
| Kilos | storm coming close now inetpro | 18:54 |
| Kilos | power can go anytime | 18:56 |
| Kilos | wbb after storm maybe. be good | 19:02 |
| inetpro | hmm... rolling thunder and lightning | 19:04 |
| Kilos | just came to say night all. sleep tight | 19:34 |
| Kilos | storm gone past now | 19:34 |
| Kilos | see you tomorrow | 19:35 |
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