[05:46] morning all [05:46] Hi kilos [05:46] haha you made a typo on the mobile tehblazemobile [05:46] hows exams going? [05:47] Nah its on purpose [05:47] Fixed name is registered on nickserv [05:47] Didnt want to identify [05:47] ah [06:18] mornings [06:18] Morning ThatGraemeGuy [06:29] morning ThatGraemeGuy, tehblazen, Kilos [06:29] Morning superfly [06:30] good morning [06:30] hi inetpro [06:30] what do you guys use to paste screenshots for quick sharing? [06:31] ala pastebin style [06:31] i take screenshots with shutter and it has an "export to imgur" plugin [06:31] imgur, imagebin, there are a few others [06:32] here's an example... time me :-P [06:32] I use the imgur screenshot addon for gnome shell [06:32] hiya superfly inetpro ThatGraemeGuy [06:32] http://i.imgur.com/UM9JuYz.png [06:32] imageshack [06:33] interesting, thanks guys [06:35] find the quickest easiest one and tell me too inetpro [06:36] I like the idea of ThatGraemeGuy [06:37] I like shutter because it has some basic editing stuff as well if you want to highlight specific areas, etc. [06:37] KSnapshot also has a direct function to export images directly to external services [06:38] press PrintScreen and Export to... [06:41] ah shutter is in the repos [06:41] ty ThatGraemeGuy [06:42] np [06:42] you see i was chastised on the list [06:48] unfortunately shutter is a gnome thing [06:48] aw [06:54] I use shutter under KDE, what's the issue? [06:57] lol he dont like to put gnome stuff in his kde [06:57] oh [06:57] meh [06:58] ThatGraemeGuy: nice if it works, just thought it would be nice to have something native [06:59] it installs lotsa stuff even in unity [06:59] perl stuff too [07:02] i see no value in limiting myself to DE-specific apps [07:02] hi Vince-0 [07:02] but that's just me [07:03] mine kde and unity are both mixes of both, like k3b is the best writer app methinks [07:07] Surp! Oh gosh its only Wednesday [07:12] inetpro: install the kipi plulings [07:12] *plugins [07:13] ThatGraemeGuy: do you need to register for imgur? [07:14] nope, it uploads anonymously [07:14] you can configure your imgur account if you have one, but its not a requirement [07:14] superfly: I had kipi plugins installed already, just don't have imgur or imageschack on the list [07:16] ThatGraemeGuy: so after installing shutter what do you do next? [07:16] um.... run it? :-) [07:16] or map it to prtsrn if you want [07:16] ahh... so you don't use PrintScreen at all [07:17] I could, I've just never bothered :-) [07:18] hmm... [07:19] it doesn't like selecting my quassel window [07:19] weird [07:20] you can select a specific window from the drop-down next to "Window" on the toolbar [07:21] tried that even [07:21] still auto selects my konsole screen when I choose the Quassel window [07:21] that's odd, not sure why that would be [07:22] never had anything like that, and i've been using it for years [07:22] must be a P.I.C.N.I.C. error :-p [07:22] anyway... I'll play around, not important right now [08:35] hi nlsthzn [08:36] good morning uncle Kilos , how are you? [08:36] good ty and you? [08:36] im working hard trying to find stuff to built a wifi yagi [08:38] http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html [08:39] wanna see if it can reach a telkom hotspot 7 ks away [08:50] I am fine thanks... starting work again this coming Saturday, but before then going to take the wife for some alone time to the big city as it is our wedding anniversary... [08:50] congrats [08:50] thanks... [08:51] no big milestone yet but we are working on it :p [08:51] every year is a milestone [08:51] only them things cost more [08:51] paper aniversary is good [08:52] gold and diamond not so good [08:53] 6th anniversary is sugar/iron apparently [08:53] i'll get my wife a bag of fizzers and a new pan [08:53] :-D [08:54] lol [08:55] get here a tool that you can borrow [08:55] pliers or something [08:55] hahaha [08:56] we're actually doing a weekend away, free of kids [08:56] nice [08:58] we are on wood currently :p [08:58] hmm... [08:59] so I got her some fossilized wood pendant and chain from a native American reservation... [08:59] lol [08:59] better woulda been a wooden spoon to make pap with [08:59] wood and/or electrical appliances [09:00] more like a wooden spoon to moer me with [09:00] pardon the fench [09:00] lol [09:15] morning all or should I say good day since morning is almost over ;) hehe [09:16] ohi Private_User [09:16] hi Kilos, hows it going? [09:16] good ty and you? [09:18] all good :) [09:21] can I ask a question that is not related to ubuntu? [09:21] Private_User go ahead [09:21] Also, hi [09:21] ask on my channel first [09:21] hi somefire [09:21] hi somefire [09:21] ok Kilos [09:22] if its for windows help ask there [09:22] somefire, join ##kilos [09:22] Kilos will do [09:23] his question is ok here methinks [09:25] somefire, welcome to ubuntu-za [09:25] or you just using another nick on the droid device [09:25] hi mazal [09:25] Kilos im theblazehen :p just on mobile [09:25] lol [09:25] Morning everyone [09:25] Morning mazal [09:26] Nee oom ek het niks gebreek nie [09:26] Nie wat ek van weet nue anyway :P [09:26] Private_User, ask it here lets see whos brain is wide awake [09:26] haha [09:27] What is the missing number in the sequence shown? [09:27] 1 - 8 - 27 - ? - 125 - 216 [09:27] 64 [09:28] No idea [09:28] how did you get 64? [09:28] 4^3 [09:28] sis says 46 [09:29] 1^3, 2^3, 3^3, 4^3, etc [09:29] imppresive [09:29] excellent somefire [09:30] whats the ^ do [09:30] Thanks :) [09:30] To the power of [09:30] 2^3 = 2x2x2 oom [09:31] didnt the to the power of just be a number before [09:34] The current 13.10 , is it Unity 7 or 8 ? [09:35] Another puzzle: http://imgur.com/ZYdLkK7 [09:37] unity 7 [09:39] mazal, you must try kde man [09:39] 13.10 kubuntu flies [09:40] My kop is te seer om weer 'n nuwe ding te leer [09:40] mind you i havent tried unity in 13.10 [09:40] kde has lotsa tools [09:41] I know Unity well now and don't want to change. KDE is like having to learn a whole new OS again [09:42] if i could learn it, you wont battle [09:42] hi Kilos [09:42] hi mazal [09:42] hi psyatw [09:44] And I'm worried about major apps that won't work , like DVDstyler for example. Didn't even work in the new Unity , so might not even work on KDE also [09:45] is that an outside app mazal ? [09:45] or in repos [09:46] Repos [09:46] guys like inetpro superfly ThatGraemeGuy all use kde [09:46] That's one of the things that forced me to go back to 12.04 [09:46] Didn't even work on 13.04 [09:46] i think the kubuntu guys do a bit more polishing [09:47] Kilos: i used to use kde [09:47] And there was a 2nd app as well that I can't remember now [09:47] 13.10 installs in 12 mins here [09:47] they have really work on the speed [09:48] maybe you must stay 12.04 till 14.04 is stable [09:48] or cut gf time down [09:50] No way , gf way more fun than a pc [09:50] If my life weren't so full I would really have liked to play with and learn Kubuntu. But I just don't have the time for that. [09:51] I even have 10.04 on my desktop back in the Netherlands [09:51] its actuall very easy once you know the basics and thats 10 mins [09:51] just because of some applications that stopped working on newer releases [09:52] you must also look at kde psyatw [09:52] but these days I use kubuntu [09:52] aha [09:52] Kilos, I use it [09:52] convince mazal its easy [09:52] I just stopped using it during the early kde 4 days because it was so buggy [09:53] well, for me only kubuntu is usable [09:53] 13.10 is really good [09:53] I am on 13.04 and it´s working fine for me, so I don´t really see a reason to upgrade [09:54] just speed they worked on i think [09:54] kde was a bit heavy on old pcs [09:54] especially because I´m running it off an external usb hard drive, so I don´t want to mess with fixing the bootloader again [09:54] oh, I know [09:54] kde 3 was fine, but kde 4 far too heavy [09:55] isnt the new one 4? [09:55] during the early radeonhd days when acceleration didn´t really work, kde 4 was excruciatingly slow [09:55] yes, it is [09:55] but I´ve been using linux at home since 2000 [09:55] its faster here than 3 then [09:56] kde 3 install takes 25 mins and 4 takes 12 [09:56] hmm [09:56] how do you even install kde 3 these days? [09:56] or some old distribution, you mean? [09:56] ya i have the isos burned to dvd [09:57] 12.04 in unity kde the x thing [09:59] oh, I see [10:01] psyatw, does that Kubuntu you run of an external work on different pc's ? [10:01] mazal, yes, it does [10:02] I am not sure if it´s completely stable, though [10:02] That's how work as well , take my OS with me to work and to home and work on both [10:02] and if that has to do with the fact that it´s running off usb [10:02] yes [10:02] Mine is fine of USB , starts off slow but once everything is cached I hardly notice that I work on usb [10:03] only prob with 13.10 is the short support [10:03] so we wait for 14.04 lts [10:09] hi Xethron [10:44] o/ hello [10:44] lo nuvolari [10:45] hi oom Kilos [10:45] Hi nuvolari [10:52] Kilos, I still say Ubuntu must change to releasing one a year only and make every release a great one with 3 years support [10:52] *once [10:53] ya that would be lekker mazal [10:53] I will also be of the opinion that too short release cycles causes less development , less testing and more bugs [10:55] i dont know enough to voice an opinion [10:57] Hi charl [10:57] hi charl [10:57] mazal: a 2 year LTS cycle is just perfect for me, others prefer rolling releases, which is even worse than twice a year [10:57] hi Kilos [10:58] inetpro i prefer rolling release :D [10:58] hi somefire [10:58] hi inetpro [10:58] I think the six month cycle has worked quite well so far [10:59] This 6 month cycle with short support and is like Ubuntu is using it's user base as beta testers for the next LTS [11:00] and dont forget some of the dev guys are like you with the gf prob [11:00] hehe [11:00] Even more reason to make release cycles longer Kilos [11:01] hi mazal [11:01] Hi charl [11:02] when it comes to release cycles i think you'll never get everyone to see eye-to-eye [11:02] i have moved back to debian now for my office pc but out of necessity more than choice [11:02] Yeah , I think a lot depends on what the user uses his pc also that affect his/her opinion [11:04] personally, in a VM, i'm more than happy to have the latest and the greatest [11:04] hello superfly, mazal, inetpro, somefire [11:04] but as my host OS i need something that is stable and won't break vmware with a kernel upgrade [11:04] hi nuvolari [11:12] hi fierychicken [11:12] Hi charl. Btw im also somefire and theblazehen [11:14] how the heck are we supposed to keep track of you with your multiple personality disorder :) [11:14] Lol nah, got a bad mobile connection :p [11:14] Dont want to wait for the ping timeouts always [11:15] And theblazehen is logged in on my pc [11:15] Stuck at school till 5pm [11:15] Nothing else to do but irc [11:15] what about studying? :) [11:16] Wrote last exam today [11:16] No more studying! [11:16] awesome ! [11:16] how did it go? [11:16] Well i think :) get report on wednesday [11:28] haha is that you blaze [11:28] fierychicken: holding thumbs ! [11:29] Kilos yep :p || charl thanks :) [11:29] lol [11:37] sounds like you just ate some zinger wings or whatever they call them [11:38] Lol yeah :p [12:07] mazal: the 6 month releases are pretty stable [12:08] please don't underestimate the time and energy that goes into the whole development process [12:08] Not for me inetpro , both 12.10 and 13.04 had major issues with some off the apps I use [12:09] did you log a bug? [12:09] Is 3rd party apps [12:09] Not ubuntu apps [12:09] then don't blame Ubuntu/Canonical [12:10] The biggest problem though is the time it takes [12:11] A basic user that does bare minimals that comes already loaded is fine to re-install every 6 months. But for me it takes 2 days to add and configure everything that is needed [12:11] That's just too much for every 6 months [12:14] mazal: you *could* simply attempt an upgrade instead of a reinstall [12:15] these days upgrades generally work pretty well [12:19] Yeah I want to try that one day , but since I decided to stick with LTS that is not really an option for me personally [12:24] might as well... stability ftw [12:46] Bye everyone , enjoy the evening [13:25] http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_commit.png <--- well that's pretty accurate [13:25] +1 [13:25] driving me nuts [13:26] but what can you do sometimes? :P [13:27] It's just annoying making commit comments if you do a LOT of bug fixing [13:27] And you can't really type "Fixed the screw up I made three commits ago..." [13:32] that's why git should be used properly with feature branches and stuff [13:32] wish we could adapt git. It's painful struggling with svn each day [14:56] wbb [15:03] home time \o/ [15:09] hmm... [15:19] hi tal0n [15:19] oh and tinuva too [15:21] hi Kilos [15:21] i need some info from a ham methinks [15:21] maybe with antenna building knowledge [15:22] what is a pigtail on a yagi? the connector? [16:59] oh hi [16:59] o/ oom Kilos, tal0n [17:00] hi nuvolari [17:11] i see stuff about black friday. is that a certain friday or every friday? [17:21] Kilos: eh? [17:22] I'm not sure, I think it's the friday before or after thanksgiving [17:22] Black Friday is the Friday following Thanksgiving Day in the United States, often regarded as the beginning of the Christmas shopping season. [17:24] aha ty [17:57] what number starts with 061, is that local? [17:59] * inetpro 's mother in law got a call from 0614955974 today trying to defraud her [18:00] tried convincing her that there was money paid into her account incorrectly [18:00] good evening [18:01] luckily she didn't fall for it [18:03] terrible [18:04] hi inetpro [18:14] somewhere in the cape methinks inetpro [18:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_South_Africa [18:14] cellular, apparently [18:16] tell her to call her provider and have them blacklisted [18:17] 01 is tvl 03 is natal [18:18] kilos showing his age :) [18:18] oh my has it changed [18:18] sorry [18:18] I suppose transvaal is the best way to describe 01 [18:18] never mind [18:19] oh you mean the gauteng thing [18:19] yeah :P [18:19] but it's more than just that [18:19] lol my head cant add that all as well [18:20] you home tumbleweed ? [18:20] no, still in San Francisco [18:20] just having a late breakfast [18:22] enjoy [18:22] inetpro, storm coming [18:23] Kilos: how long do I have? [18:23] you are at home [18:24] still storming to the south of us now [18:24] tumbleweed: thanks for the link [18:24] so that looks like CellC to me [18:25] inetpro: of course, it's also possible for cellphone numbers to be ported, so one never knows for sure, wihout checking the porting database [18:25] oops, 8ta [18:26] tumbleweed: eish! True [18:26] so is the porting db accessible? [18:27] inetpro: https://www.porting.co.za/PublicWebsite/ [18:28] great! thanks tumbleweed [18:29] The number 0614955974 has not been ported and is still serviced by TELKMOBL. [18:29] wow [18:33] tumbleweed, do you keep all this info in your head or you a google expert [18:38] so where does one report something like this? [18:38] with you provider [18:39] from the fone that was used [18:39] i dont think that peter guy does it as well [18:41] Kilos: you think, or you don't think? [18:41] dont [18:41] :) [18:42] peter does it when you got probs with your provider i think [18:42] yep [18:42] jy tender vir n houd overal [18:42] hout [18:42] ai! [18:49] Kilos: I remember that things exist, and then hit google [18:50] wow [18:50] well done [18:50] evening superfly [18:54] storm coming close now inetpro [18:56] power can go anytime [19:02] wbb after storm maybe. be good [19:04] hmm... rolling thunder and lightning [19:34] just came to say night all. sleep tight [19:34] storm gone past now [19:35] see you tomorrow