[00:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481791/
[00:02] <geekmasterflash> GuybrushThreepwo, Can you also give me a pastebin of the PSCX2 log (the white window that opens when you open the program)?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> GuybrushThreepwo: can you: hexdump -n 32 IOPRP300.IMG | pastebinit
[00:03] <reisio> apparently it's a "PS2" "IMG"
[00:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6481797/
[00:03] <reisio> you'd think something designed to emulate a PS2 would grok such a thing
[00:03] <reisio> anyways, that means it's probably not the kind of "img" things that convert from "img" to "iso" are thinking of
[00:03] <reisio> but easily tested
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> reisio: its certainly not iso9660 anyhow
[00:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://i.imgur.com/v3essZ1.png
[00:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> dont know how to copy paste the log
[00:04] <daftykins> reisio: hey, you had much exposure to nvidia optimus setups?
[00:05] <yeyeman> ubuntu not let me format and rename my usb
[00:05] <reisio> hitsujiTMO: fo' sho
[00:05] <reisio> daftykins: nope
[00:05] <vipintruder> unmount it first.
[00:05] <yeyeman> how to do it?
[00:06] <reisio> daftykins: two chips one screen
[00:06] <daftykins> yeyeman: have you tried #ubuntu-fi ?
[00:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> the folder with this particular IMG file has some other files too
[00:06] <reisio> yeyeman: right click it in file manager
[00:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> .IRX files
[00:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> and a folder that says PAD2
[00:06] <daftykins> reisio: yeah me and a friend own the setups, just i haven't touched Linux on mine much
[00:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> which has another IRX file
[00:06] <reisio> GuybrushThreepwo: #pcsx2 ?
[00:06] <yeyeman> reisio, and then what?
[00:06] <reisio> yeyeman: pick an option
[00:06] <reisio> eject/unmount
[00:07] <reisio> format if you see it
[00:07] <yeyeman> daftykins, sorry I don't speak finnish
[00:07] <yeyeman> reisio, but that is what is not working, nothing happens.
[00:07] <reisio> yeyeman: what do you expect to happen?
[00:07] <yeyeman> reisio, I can eject it, but that's about it
[00:07] <daftykins> yeyeman: ah you just joined from a .fi was all
[00:07] <yeyeman> reisio, I expect it to get formatted and renamed
[00:08] <reisio> yeyeman: format it after you eject it
[00:09] <bennypr0fane> hello, does anyone know how to mount a WebDAV network share in Thunar file manager in Xubuntu?
[00:09] <vipintruder> yeyman: open a terminal a type: palimpsest and find the usb device and unmount it.
[00:10] <yeyeman> it does not work.
[00:10] <vipintruder> with palimpsest you can to format it too (first unmount it).
[00:10] <xirre_> How can I set a limit on how many MB a folder can store? Any program available for that? I can't find one.
[00:11] <bekks> xirre_: Thats called "quota" and is designed to work for filesystems.
[00:12] <yeyeman> funny, windows let me format it easily with no probs
[00:12] <reisio> yeyeman: that is funny
[00:12]  * reisio laughs
[00:12] <daftykins> wait 'til you hear about that one with the partitioning
[00:13] <xirre_> bekks: So, I should run sudo apt-get install quota?
[00:13] <bekks> xirre_: No, tahst not what I said.
[00:14] <daftykins> xirre_: there are plenty of google results for 'ubuntu disk quotas'
[00:14] <xirre_> http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_quota.htm
[00:14] <daftykins> give 'em a try
[00:14] <xirre_> I already googled just now.
[00:14] <xirre_> Lol.
[00:14] <daftykins> well go you!
[00:14] <xirre_> :)
[00:14] <xirre_> So, should I install quota? Orr.. Is this not what I need?
[00:14] <Gabboz> xirre_, seriously, get some reading done then ask for help if you still need it
[00:15] <bekks> xirre_: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/07/disk-quota/
[00:15] <yeyeman> reisio, don't get mad because win is easier
[00:15] <xirre_> Thanks, bekks. Going to read up.
[00:15] <daftykins> yeyeman: enough of that thanks
[00:16] <yeyeman> take it easy  I was just kidding
[00:16] <krabador> Beldar, where i can look the logs, of the boot checks?
[00:16] <dreamy_> !oldware
[00:17] <dreamy_> whats wrong with using oldsoftware and old hardware?
[00:17] <gassho> ...___._..._
[00:18] <dreamy_> im going to do updates manualy, and im going to learn how to compile
[00:18] <Beldar> krabador, The fsck's run I'm not sure.
[00:18] <Troy^> I'm having some troubles with my current dual boot setup. I have windows on sda and Linux on sdb. Grub boots fine but everytime i run boot-repair Windows option still continues to not show up in grub.
[00:19] <Troy^> still does not*
[00:19] <vipintruder> krabador: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49925
[00:21] <dreamy_> !old software
[00:23] <Seegee> Hey guys, I am trying to make apache listen on one of my IPV6 addresses. This is the range that I own according to OVH: 2607:5300:60:3D7a::1/64  . In my apache config, I have this: Listen 2607:5300:60:3D7a:80. This is the error that I get: http://pastebin.com/7ZUDcpSf
[00:26] <dreamy_> have i got voice?
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> No.
[00:29] <billy__> can someone give me a hand need some ninfo
[00:29] <billy__> wanna take kubuntu off this laptop and put win7 on here from a usb cdrom
[00:29] <garshasp> how do you open cmd on file in lxde
[00:29] <Beldar> Troy^, So why are you running boot repair, and do you run a sudo update-grub in ubuntu?
[00:30] <vipintruder> krabador: do you see the webpage?
[00:30] <Beldar> Troy^, And if this is the linux bootrepair app are you saving the bootinfo summary?
[00:31] <krabador> vipintruder, yes, dmesg is the file
[00:32] <MasterBaiter> Anyone here in the US and gonna enter into that bass tournament next week? The work over at Salt Lake.
[00:32] <krabador> but i've fsck at boot and no trace of it on dmesg
[00:32] <MasterBaiter> Me personally, I can't wait to catch a big one.
[00:32] <MasterBaiter> Grab it with my hands and pull it right on in!
[00:32] <vipintruder> ok
[00:32] <MasterBaiter> I know someone here's gotta love fishin.
[00:33] <MasterBaiter> I tell you, I can fish with my eyes closed. Been fish'n since I was a boy.
[00:33] <Beldar> !ops | MasterBaiter
[00:34] <MasterBaiter> So no one here likes to fish?
[00:34] <Beldar> That is a questionable nick at best, and the posts are a cover for it
[00:34] <bekks> !ot | MasterBaiter
[00:34] <MasterBaiter> Why in the world you guys in the Ubuntu chatroom?
[00:41] <Romance> are there any tool to ONLY upload to google drive? i dont wanna sync it
[00:45] <somsip> Romance: I use http://tomdignan.com/projects/gdrive-cli/
[00:48] <Doxin> using avconv, how do I loop a video file a certain number of times?
[00:51] <phong_> hi guys,
[00:51] <phong_> is there such as compiz for ubuntu?
[00:51] <phong_> after installing 13.10 i don't see compiz
[00:54] <geekmasterflash> phong_, Compiz should be there by default on gnome or unity
[00:55] <geekmasterflash> phong_, It might not be if you don't have hardware acceleration
[00:55] <phong_> i have GTX 580
[00:55] <geekmasterflash> phong_, What happens when you put glxgears into command line?
[00:55] <phong_> very power
[00:55] <phong_> The program 'glxgears' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[00:55] <phong_> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[00:55] <geekmasterflash> phong_, Be that as it may, if it's not configured properly it's not working
[00:55] <geekmasterflash> phong_, please install and try again
[00:56] <gygis> hello
[00:56] <zykotick9> geekmasterflash: compiz would be there for unity, but gnome uses mutter by default
[00:56] <phong_> geekmasterflash, 302 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.271 FPS
[00:57] <phong_> dude man, i have good grahpic card
[00:57] <geekmasterflash> zykotick9, It does? Odd. I have never had anything but compiz when I installed ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[00:57] <phong_> with lastest nvidia
[00:57] <phong_> with lastest nvidia driver installed
[00:57] <geekmasterflash> phong_, I am not disparing your card, I am asking if it's properly configured.
[00:57] <phong_> how to configure in terminal?
[00:59] <geekmasterflash> phong_, what happens when you run sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:00] <phong_> i use synaptic package manager
[01:00] <phong_> i do search for compiz
[01:00] <phong_> and install compizconfig-settting
[01:00] <wycats> I have Ubuntu saucy installed on a 3.8.11 kernel... any idea how I can get linux-tools (and specifically `perf`) for this kernel?
[01:16] <etbusch> hey quick bash question, what is the difference between > and >> ?
[01:17] <Djyou> > overites >> appends
[01:17] <etbusch> thanks much
[01:19] <Djyou> NOt a problem
[01:20] <stormdream> browser /~root gives  ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE instead of 404 error, even with UserDir disabled, what could this be?
[01:23] <nafg__________> Hello
[01:24] <nafg__________> Hello
[01:24] <daftykins> hi nafg
[01:24] <nafg__________> Is it possible to make a startup script that is interactive/
[01:24] <nafg__________> running as root
[01:24] <daftykins> what are you *really* trying to do?
[01:24] <nafg__________> Okay, that will be a bit longer :)
[01:25] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:25] <hylian> hello all
[01:25] <daftykins> hi
[01:25] <nafg__________> we want to create a lot of these kiosks, based on ubuntu. I want the installation to be completely automated. But the hostname has to be specified manually.
[01:26] <nafg__________> I am preseeding Ubiquity and I couldn't get it to ask just the hostname.
[01:26] <nafg__________> So my current approach is this: the installer is automated, so the hostname gets the default value.
[01:27] <nafg__________> On first login, via xsession.d/, the user is prompted for the hostname via zenity. sudoers allows running the subroutine script, which sets the hostname
[01:27] <daftykins> nafg__________: have you looked into providing the hostname with DHCP?
[01:28] <nafg__________> daftykins: no, how would that work?
[01:28] <nafg__________> And, does the installer need any customization to make that happen?
[01:28] <nafg__________> daftykins: Would that be a one-time thing?
[01:28] <nafg__________> Because we don't have control over the network where they would actually be used
[01:29] <daftykins> oh i see =/
[01:29] <daftykins> i guess that might be out of the question then - not even a laptop, switch and some cables?
[01:29] <nafg__________> too expensive methinks --- one per installation?
[01:29] <nafg__________> we're not a business really, more a charity organization
[01:30] <nafg__________> trying to keep the cost down
[01:30] <hylian> exactly what are you trying to accomplish nafg__________, daftykins?? maybe a third perspective could help..??
[01:30] <nafg__________> Once it has a hostname, it gets most of the configuration via ansible
[01:30] <nafg__________> Hi hylian
[01:30] <daftykins> nafg__________: oh do you work for a sort of PC reconditioning charity and have clashing issues setting up multiple at once?
[01:30] <hylian> hello nafg__________
[01:31] <nafg__________> Did you read all my messages? daftykins asked me exactly that and i explained
[01:31] <nafg__________> daftykins: i didn't understand
[01:31] <daftykins> hylian: yeah do you have scrollback?
[01:31] <hylian> nafg__________: sorry, I just logged in a minute ago
[01:32] <nafg__________> btw apologies for the underscores, not sure what happened. quassel won't start so i'm using webchat.freenode.net and that's what it gave me
[01:32] <aaabbcc> hitsujiTMO, it was the nouveau driver, I installed the proprietary NVidia drivers and now it works fine
[01:32] <hylian> daftykins: i am using irssi. i think it has some scrollback capabilities.
[01:32] <aaabbcc> except I can't get the 3rd monitor to work
[01:33] <nafg__________> huh?
[01:33] <hylian> nafg__________: no problem, just using irssi's tab key to auto complete.
[01:33] <hylian> nafg__________: why do you have to set the hostname? are these going to be networked together somehow?
[01:33] <nafg__________> sorry i was just wondering why it said i joined again
[01:34] <nafg__________> hylian: mainly for ansible
[01:34] <nafg__________> identification
[01:34] <cobolfoo> Hello everyone, I am working with ParticleEffect class and realized that emitters update is not frame-rate independant. This is a known issue?
[01:34] <daftykins> hylian: i believe it's for installing en masse
[01:34] <cobolfoo> wrong channel :~
[01:35] <nafg__________> daftykins: hylian: right, we need the ansible configuration files to be able to distinguish between kiosks
[01:35] <stormdream> is it normal to acess /~root in the broswer even with UserDir disabled?
[01:37] <hylian> nafg__________ daftykins i get it, then dhcp assigned hostnames wont work because you are going to want to keep that information available. I am assuming so you can make changes to the machine via the net? i.e. these machines will be spread in locations around a large area, right?
[01:37] <nafg__________> hylian: Precisely
[01:39] <daftykins> hylian: sorry i don't follow how the DHCP method prevents availability - however nafg__________ said this may not be available due to lack of control of the network so it's probably worth ignoring anywho
[01:39] <nafg__________> To be clear, my current approach is workable, but it's less than ideal
[01:40] <hylian> nafg__________: and you don't want to baby sit the installation of every machine you set up. That's a tough one. Personally I would want to ghost one completed machine and then change the hostname afterwards, because ghost is by far faster than installation... that's just me though.
[01:41] <daftykins> hylian: ah that's true, in fact i've just dd'd from one disk to another before to speed up deployment
[01:41] <nafg__________> hylian: at this point that's not such a huge improvement, since i already have the installation completely noninteractive.
[01:41] <nafg__________> hylian: the question is the best way to deal  with setting the hostname post-installation
[01:41] <hylian> daftykins: exactly, because a ghosted machine will have the install, the updates, and all the installed software. that's the way i would go.
[01:42] <nafg__________> hylian: Currently you have to first log in as the default user, then you get prompted for the new hostname
[01:42] <hylian> nafg__________: well this is for fedora, but it makes it pretty easy to change the hostname post-installation. http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=74920
[01:42] <nafg__________> hylian: and that requires some custom sudoers settings
[01:43] <hylian> nafg__________: i see you issue... I have to think about that one.
[01:44] <nafg__________> hylian: yes ubuntu is different
[01:44] <nafg__________> hylian: But again, I have the process of prompting/setting the hostname automated
[01:45] <jerryl> hi room..
[01:45] <nafg__________> already
[01:45] <hylian> nafg__________: sorry about that... I sometimes forget that "Linux isn't always Linux"..
[01:45] <Danato> zykotick9: are you there?
[01:45] <nafg__________> That is not the issue
[01:45] <nafg__________> There's a reason the fanatics insist on calling it GNU/Linux :)
[01:45] <jerryl> sorry to barge in but no one is talking in other linux rooms and i am stressed.
[01:45] <nafg__________> The issue is, as I asked before, how to run this script before login.
[01:46] <hylian> jerryl: ask you question, and someone will try and answer you.
[01:46] <hylian> nafg__________: let me do some diggin on that.
[01:47] <jerryl> i have a AAS of electronics, my work says they will pay for school for me to further my electronics but:
[01:47] <nafg__________> hylian: I've tried using the lightdm session-greeter-script setting but it didn't work
[01:47] <Danato> somehow im getting prompted to enter my password to a login keyring right after I login, it says that it ddnt unlock on the login
[01:47] <xangua> Danato: did you enabled automatic login¿
[01:48] <hylian> nafg__________: i am assuming you want to run the script before the first log in, i.e. just after it is installed?
[01:48] <jerryl> trade school for electronics has been telling me try signing up next quarter for school for my BS , then:
[01:48] <Danato> xangua: they told me to disable it yesterday and i did, now i booted up and i still get it
[01:49] <jerryl> should i go to regular state collage and start all over? i am almost 40.
[01:49] <xangua> !ot | jerryl
[01:49] <hylian> sorry nafg, i was just figuring this out...
[01:50] <Danato> xangua: btw its been happening since always, so I thought it was the same for everyone, I came here asking what is that for
[01:50] <hylian> jerryl: i don't think i understand you question.
[01:51] <nafg_> hylian: daftykins: hi, whew I got rid of those underscored finally!
[01:51] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:52] <hylian> daftykins: sorry man, I didn't mean to butt in. I would have suggested adding the command to /etc/rc.local, but i think he wanted that script to only run once.
[01:52] <daftykins> nafg_: i'm liking hylian's approach to recommend just disk imaging etc
[01:52] <daftykins> hylian: no please feel free, i don't think i had anything for this one
[01:52] <jerryl> i want a BS degree or masters degree in anything but i might have to start all over think i should if i am 35~40
[01:52] <hunn> i cant boot from live usb. i am able to get in bios and under boot device priority i see windows bppt manager as boot option 1
[01:53] <hylian> jerryl: my friend re-started college, and a lot of his old tech school credits counted.
[01:53] <jerryl> already asked only max of 13 credits accepted.
[01:53] <nafg_> daftykins: I don't see how it relates to my issue at all.
[01:54] <jerryl> i dont think 13 max is worth the $30K.
[01:54] <nafg_> daftykins: After all, I have customized the installer so that it runs whatever scripts I want.
[01:54] <hylian> jerryl: yeah, not all of his creds "applied". I remember that too. Personally you won't catch me in a college. too expensive, and too long. The tech is good enough for me.
[01:54] <nafg_> That isn't the question, the question is what scripts to write
[01:54] <hylian> nafg_: ohhh... oops. :)
[01:55] <jerryl> hy you mean like a deg from a trade school or uniion job skilled?
[01:55] <Mississauga> recently came to 12.04 from windows, seems to be working out, my mobo has built in VGA to that I have 1 display, I want to disable that and plug a video card but am afraid to, do I install some drivers before putting card in or vice versa? Its nVidia Geforce GT610 and will run 2 displays. The card came with windows drivers only
[01:56] <hylian> I remember changing /etc/hostname but it requires a restart to change
[01:56] <jerryl> 12.04 should be PLUGPLAY for that card.
[01:56] <hylian> nafg_: I remember changing /etc/hostname but it requires a restart to change
[01:57] <Mississauga> so I plug the new card, change BIOS to disable built in video, thats all?
[01:57] <vocx> Mississauga, I would not disable the old VGA
[01:57] <geekmasterflash> Mississauga, you might want to grab the nvidia driver
[01:57] <nafg_> hylian: Sorry i'm not sure what wasn't clear, but that is not the issue! I already have a working script  that changes the hostname!
[01:57] <jerryl> should not need to disable, bios should auto detect
[01:58] <Mississauga> nvidia driver for ubuntu? how do I install that?
[01:58] <nafg_> The question is *how to run that interactive script without requiring logging in to a default username*
[01:58] <geekmasterflash> Mississauga, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current (or nvidia-319 if you are feeling saucy)
[01:58] <jerryl> ubu should have a popup saying please install this nonshareclosedminded driver/
[01:58] <Mississauga> I do that before plugging new card?
[01:59] <geekmasterflash> Mississauga, After
[01:59] <hylian> nafg_: add your script to /etc/rc.local bash /path/to/script/script.sh i.e. su -c `bash /path/to/script/script.sh` (username)..
[01:59] <Mississauga> so I plug the new card, then do the sudo... stuff?
[01:59] <jerryl> with poweroff install card following all ESD saftey and then power up and boot into ubu12
[02:00] <Mississauga> ok, ty
[02:00] <nafg_> hylian: don't need su, it should run as root
[02:00] <hylian> nafg_: i stole that from a wiki, but it works. (used to start a minecraft server every boot.)
[02:00] <nafg_> hylian: but can that be interactive?
[02:00] <jerryl> watching Supernatural and dranking vodka and coke.
[02:01] <hylian> nafg_: good question. I am not good enough at bash scripting to 100% know that answer, but I would think the answer is yes...
[02:02] <jerryl> tech school has called 2 times for me to sign papers for me to continue from AS degree of Electronics to projectmanagment BS dgree for another $70K ish
[02:03] <hunn> how do i make my usb bootable when under boot device priority is wibows manager
[02:03] <hylian> nafg_: i know of several distro's that have similar scripts running, and they wait for a response, so I would say yes. in particular inx is not X (that's the name of the distro)
[02:04] <jerryl> hu use a newer ver of os for that MS secure boott.
[02:04] <daftykins> hunn: typically there is a key which allows a boot menu to be presented, or sometimes on the save and exit page of the BIOS there's a boot override menu for a one-time choice
[02:04] <jerryl> disable ;\ in bios secure boot
[02:05] <jerryl> i used new compatable OSs and win8 secure boot
[02:05] <hylian> jerryl: it liquifies down to 3 questions. 1) do i need this 2) can I handle the extra debt 3) can i motivate myself to complete the course. can't help you anymore than that, only you can answer those questions.
[02:05] <hunn> disable secure boot?
[02:05] <jerryl> hy thanks EXECLEENT.
[02:06] <hunn> or edit the cobfig
[02:06] <hunn> config
[02:06] <hylian> nafg_: i listed that command wrong. su (username) -c '/bin/bash /path/to/script/script.sh &'
[02:06] <nafg_> hylian: what is the su for? I need it to run as root
[02:07] <jerryl> hy work work said they will pay for more electronics and nothing else so then i am stuck with starting all over at almost 40 for a real collage.
[02:07] <hylian> nafg_: oops
[02:08] <daftykins> hunn: just start by changing the boot order, don't worry about the other suggestions for now
[02:08] <hylian> nafg_: i think this is what you really need. very well documented. http://askubuntu.com/questions/156771/run-a-script-only-at-the-very-first-boot
[02:09] <jerryl> daft i had a hard time with the multi win8 ubuntu/puppy/cent boot.
[02:09] <hunn> daftykins under boot i see boot device priority
[02:09] <hylian> well all, nova is on. I am going to watch it. Good night.
[02:09] <daftykins> hunn: right...
[02:09] <jerryl> plugin flash drive first then turn laptop on and flashdrive should be in boot options.
[02:10] <hunn> boot option is onlu windows booy manager or disable
[02:10] <daftykins> hunn: sometimes there is a 'primary hard disk' option?
[02:10] <hunn> roasted
[02:10] <daftykins> hunn: or is there another boot entry which you can move up and down?
[02:10] <hunn> says only; windows boot manager or disable
[02:10] <jerryl> select flash drive scandiskha02 as always first boot device.
[02:10] <daftykins> hunn: if you could take a picture that would be amazing
[02:11] <hunn> ok
[02:11] <jerryl> whish i had nova. i have cable and have not found it..
[02:11] <geekmasterflash> jerryl, It's PBS
[02:12] <geekmasterflash> jerryl, You shouldnt even need cable to get NOVA
[02:12] <jerryl> i have att uvers and have not found pbs yet.
[02:12] <jerryl> i know i would need an ananttea
[02:12] <hunn> http://tinypic.com/r/143nm1k/5 daftykins
[02:13] <hunn> idk why its backwards
[02:13] <daftykins> hunn: ah, is there a view on the 'Boot' page before that which has more options visible?
[02:13] <geekmasterflash> hunn, Have you disabled fast boot like is suggests?
[02:14] <geekmasterflash> hunn, Sorry, fast bios mode*
[02:14] <jerryl> common... i can read backwards and upside down...
[02:14] <hunn> i disabled fast bios. ok ill snap a pic dafty
[02:14] <jerryl> try f9,
[02:15] <daftykins> jerryl:  *NO* you don't just reset settings
[02:15] <jerryl> and then save
[02:15] <daftykins> right, you lot stop damn well guessing
[02:15] <daftykins> you're horrifying me.
[02:15] <geekmasterflash> jerryl, If he's got UEFI resetting bios could mean not being able to boot
[02:15] <geekmasterflash> jerryl, Please don't suggest that lightly.
[02:16] <jerryl> usb drive has to be detected in bios;
[02:16] <jerryl> my bad vodaka talking
[02:16] <hunn> http://tinypic.com/r/2d7tvth/5 daftykins
[02:17] <daftykins> hunn: if your system has multiple USB ports, try switching it to a different one (ideally a USB 2 port which isn't blue)
[02:17] <hunn> oh! ok
[02:17] <daftykins> hunn: then power off, power back on and double check if anything on the Boot page there changes
[02:19] <jerryl> uefi OS
[02:19] <daftykins> what did i just say...
[02:19] <hunn> i rebooted . uusb 2
[02:19] <jerryl> does 12.04 support uefi>
[02:19] <hunn> no change
[02:19] <daftykins> yes it does
[02:20] <revo821> wuttup
[02:20] <daftykins> hunn: hrmm, can you take a pic of the general tab please?
[02:20] <jerryl> where is the pic of the flash drive as a boot option. scandiskha:02 in bios list of hard drives?
[02:21] <daftykins> hunn: sorry 'SysInfo' and also the 'Advanced' page please
[02:21] <daftykins> jerryl: i know you mean well but two people at once on this isn't hugely helping right now
[02:21] <jerryl> vodka isnt helping ether
[02:23] <revo821> Linka
[02:23] <jerryl> woman is home by room!
[02:23] <revo821> linux vodja
[02:23] <daftykins> please feel free to inflict your drunken ramblings upon #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <daftykins> where the party never starts.
[02:24] <ObrienDave> we welcome anyone ;))
[02:24]  * revo821 senses no privacy
[02:25] <revo821> how about u nsa double agents piss off
[02:25] <revo821> there is nothing to see here, bitch.
[02:25] <daftykins> sigh.
[02:25] <daftykins> revo821: are we going to have to escort you to another bar?
[02:26] <revo821> daftykins: yeap..give the #
[02:27] <geekmasterflash> revo821, for someone concerned about the NSA, you're geoip is showing.
[02:27] <revo821> i bet it says mexico
[02:28] <geekmasterflash> revo821, indeed, senior.
[02:28] <revo821> vpn
[02:28] <revo821> so.
[02:28]  * daftykins patiently awaits BIOS pics
[02:28] <revo821> ur a smart guy, wanna pvt? im not gay i promise.
[02:29] <ObrienDave> oh gee, where are the OT police when theyre needed. sheesh
[02:29] <revo821> they coming
[02:29] <revo821> amazing how..you guys survive here
[02:29] <daftykins> i wouldn't call it survive
[02:30] <revo821> no?
[02:30] <geekmasterflash> revo821, We subsist off a diet of trolls and photosynthesis
[02:30] <revo821> see a bunch of nsa guys just joined up
[02:30] <xangua> !ot
[02:30] <revo821> geekmasterflash: get used to it.
[02:31] <daftykins> hunn: any luck?
[02:31] <revo821> chinese flooded the internet relay ...head for mountain
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> !op revo821
[02:32] <revo821> i wasnt kidding.
[02:32] <somsip> geekmasterflash: !ops, if you want them
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> !ops revo821
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> Thanks.
[02:32] <geekmasterflash> !ops; revo821
[02:33] <geekmasterflash> I give up.
[02:33] <somsip> geekmasterflash: pipe |, not ;
[02:33] <revo821> cmon
[02:33] <geekmasterflash> !ops| revo821
[02:33] <revo821> i can lead if u guys a new leader
[02:33] <revo821> cuz obviously this channel is to shit.
[02:37] <hunn> sorry daftykins. i was installing ubuntu on anoher usb
[02:37] <daftykins> ah okie dokie
[02:37] <daftykins> hunn: the other pages may have a setting that's stopping it working
[02:37] <hunn> maybe it will help
[02:37] <hunn> what do you mean. in bios?
[02:38] <hunn> ill snap a pic of sysinfo and adv in a minute
[02:38] <daftykins> ty
[02:38] <daftykins> hunn: which version are you putting on - and which program to do it btw?
[02:40] <nafg_> I just tried adding a `read` in /etc/rc.local, and it doesn't work.
[02:40] <hunn> lts
[02:41] <daftykins> hunn: 12.04.3 image?
[02:42] <hunn> http://tinypic.com/r/23syzkg/5
[02:43] <daftykins> okie dokie nothing to set there
[02:43] <acolytetojippity> Quick question, opinion type thing.  If i need to scan a windows XP machine, and i want to use linux to scan the XP hard drives, so we can transfer data off.  USB boot is questionable, the PC might be too old.  So most likely a LIVECD is what we'll have to use.  Is Ubuntu or another 'buntu' flavor a good choice, or should i be looking into a different distro?
[02:43] <hunn> http://tinypic.com/r/2v2zclw/5
[02:43] <hunn> 12.04lts
[02:44] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: write to a DVD if you can
[02:44] <hunn> wait dafty
[02:44] <hunn> under boot overdrive i see uefi
[02:45] <hunn> uefi sandisk and another says sandisk
[02:45] <hunn> my pendrive
[02:45] <geekmasterflash> hunn, Huzzah
[02:45] <daftykins> hunn: which page is that sorry?
[02:45] <hunn> on boot and on exit as well
[02:45] <daftykins> hunn: so do you have Windows 8 on there right now? what's the plan, just Ubuntu or both side by side?
[02:46] <hunn> just windows 8 on here. i want to try ubuntu on this and if i like it. i will probably replace or side it if possible
[02:46] <acolytetojippity> @daftykins liveDVD might be possible.  i still would need to pick a distro.  i know that's a bit odd to ask in the 'buntu channel, but i figured someone might be able to give me a non-biased reccomendation.
[02:47] <acolytetojippity> i would love to use ubuntu, but is there any that would be more beneficial?
[02:47] <daftykins> hunn: ok well just press enter on the exit screen's entry, it doesn't matter whether UEFI or not until you're ready to install
[02:47] <hunn> do i boot sandisk or uefi sandisk
[02:47] <hunn> oh ok
[02:47] <daftykins> !uefi | hunn
[02:47] <daftykins> hunn: give that a read for when you're ready
[02:49] <hunn> it booted fast
[02:49] <hunn> thanks
[02:50] <daftykins> hunn: no problem :) looks like re-doing the drive sorted it for you though, so you solved it yourself? :D
[02:50] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, You might notice that there are a bunch of derivatives of ubuntu to me that shows some use.
[02:51] <hunn> i feel like my tech skills went up 0.01 percent :)
[02:52] <daftykins> hunn: :D
[02:53] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: any sugestions?  i'd prefer to operate witha gui, if possible
[02:53] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, with or without a gui
[02:53] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: *with a gui.   my bad
[02:54] <Beldar> most have both options acolytetojippity
[02:54] <Beldar> most linux
[02:54] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, Is this a server need I did not see all of your posts?
[02:55] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: ultimately for backing up data, anything will do
[02:56] <linuxlite1969> hi
[02:56] <daftykins> hi
[02:58] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: daftykins  not a server, its a home PC.  it can't run AV natively due to malware, and it can't even re-install windows (or boot to windows recovery disc for some reason...idk.  dad refuses to post to bleeping computer)
[02:58] <rypervenche> acolytetojippity: Check your private message.
[02:58] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, I'd use the livecd and clam-av
[03:02] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: if it's XP it only has until April anyway ;)
[03:03] <acolytetojippity> its been unusable for months due to malware
[03:03] <Danato> acolytetojippity: if your goal is to transfer files from the hard drive to another place, ubuntu live cd will work well
[03:04] <acolytetojippity> daftykins:  and my dad recently build a 7 gaming rig.  we just need to get the data and stuff off the XP machine
[03:04] <acolytetojippity> Danato: like i said, i need to also AV scan them.  its a sick, sick machine.
[03:04] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: is it a case that it's got a PATA (IDE) drive and there's no way to slave it to the newer 7 system?
[03:05] <Danato> acolytetojippity: if its that sick id rather recommend you to just backup those files and reinstall windows xp
[03:05] <acolytetojippity> daftykins: possibly.  the issue is more the malware.  we can't have it infect the 7 machine, since this stuff seems to have screwed with the MBR a bt
[03:06] <acolytetojippity> Danato: can't.  dad tried, it refused to boot the xp disc, or a recovery disc from norton.
[03:06] <daftykins> if it's not the booting OS it won't be a danger
[03:06] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: is it blocking USB flash drive usage then did you say?
[03:06] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, Well any compromised OS should just have the image/clone reloaded anyway.
[03:06] <acolytetojippity> daftykins: oh it'll boot, but it won't boot from a xp or norton disc.  i could turn it on and get onto it right now if i wanted.
[03:07] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: can't.  it won't boot to the xp disc.  i can't re-image it.   plus i need to try and pull the data off.
[03:07] <daftykins> acolytetojippity: it's too clever for loading in safe mode and running malwarebytes then i take it?
[03:07] <daftykins> sorry if you've been through all of these thoughts
[03:07] <acolytetojippity> daftykins: not that i know of.  USB should still work, but i'm not sure its new enough to boot from USB
[03:07] <Danato> acolytetojippity: you could try to boot with a linux distro cd, if it boots, you can format the disk and install windows again safely
[03:07] <acolytetojippity> daftykins: yeah...safe mode won't boot.
[03:07] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, Have you tried making a LiveCD with clam-av on it?
[03:08] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, An image correctly taken would load to a wiped computer.
[03:08] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: not yet.  i figured i should try to get some advice as to which distro to put on it first.  and we don't need to salvage the machine, we just need the data scanned and transferred
[03:09] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: i am assuming the offical XP disc is properly made...
[03:09] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, You know about the per-session boot right?
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, I'd recommend a scan, just so you're not transferring potentially infected files.
[03:09] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: no, what is that?
[03:09] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: i agree.  i was looking for advice on what distro to use for it, which would be the best to go about that.
[03:09] <minnieteddy> use a live distro on in and ftp the data to another machine
[03:10] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, A boot outside the bios a key prompt as if you going to the bios, mine is f12
[03:10] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, For this, really any distro would be fine. But I will say Ubuntu because I am here.
[03:10] <minnieteddy> what is the ha4rdware as that sometimes determines the distro
[03:10] <acolytetojippity> Beldar: hmmm, i don't know.  my dad has tried to manually boot it to the XP cd without success.
[03:11] <acolytetojippity> minnieteddy: old.  MSI K8T Neo mobo
[03:11] <daftykins> hehe
[03:11] <daftykins> smells like AMD Athlon64
[03:11] <minnieteddy> ok, years please as i am 43 and old is a relative term to me
[03:12] <vatsmonroe> hi guys, i need some help. Yesterday after lots of hours I was finally able to dual boot Ubuntu on to my computer :), it took me all day practically i was having a lot of trouble booting from a Flash Drive, but i finally did it. However today im having trouble installing a theme pack on it, to be precise the azenis theme pack, i was able to install the icons and all but im getting this error "E: Unable to locate package azenis-theme-pack" am i doing s
[03:12] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, I would be sure the disc is good and that this is the per-session boot, if it is a sata and there is no sata on the disc it will not get to ant communication to the install.
[03:12] <Beldar> any*
[03:12] <acolytetojippity> but anyway, this is a bit more than i was looking for.  i just wanted info on a good distro to use to boot in, scan shit, and get out.  clam-av seems to the be the way to go, and i think i'm  going past this chan's purpose with all the XP support.
[03:13] <acolytetojippity> minnieteddy: the machine is at least...i want to say 10 years old.
[03:13] <minnieteddy> vatsmonroe go into a terminal and sudo apt-get update, assuming the network connection is working
[03:13] <minnieteddy> Acolyte, backtrack linux ight be what you want
[03:13] <vatsmonroe> minnieteddy: It is running, and i did the update, however I still get the same message
[03:14] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, There is no such package as azenis-theme-pack, so you can't apt-get it
[03:14] <minnieteddy> do a dpkg -l on it and see what that says
[03:14] <daftykins> backtrack is long dead
[03:14] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, I presume that is what you tried, since your error looks like apt-get
[03:14] <acolytetojippity> minnieteddy: i was considering backtrack.  or, actually, the continuation Kali.
[03:15] <vatsmonroe> minnieteddy: yes thats what i thought so i changed the name to the actual package name and i still got the same message heres what im writting
[03:15] <vatsmonroe> sudo apt-get install azenis-theme-pack_0.0.3_all.tar.gz be patient im a noob on linux
[03:16] <minnieteddy> vats, tried looking it up using aptitude or synapyic?
[03:16] <minnieteddy> synaptic?
[03:16] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, http://tuxsax.deviantart.com/art/Azenis-Theme-Pack-0-2-130488330
[03:16] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, There, a .deb. Doesn't get much easier.
[03:16] <acolytetojippity> azenis has a repo...
[03:17] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, That he/she is obviously not joined
[03:17] <minnieteddy> Vats, a .tar.gz is not a .deb, tar xzvf will extract .tar.gz files
[03:17] <vatsmonroe> geekmasterflash: meaning :) ?
[03:17] <acolytetojippity> http://www.themelinux.com/linuxtheme/azenis-theme-pack/ mentions that sudo apt-get install azenis-theme-pack should work
[03:17] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Meaning go to that link and download the .deb
[03:17] <Danato> acolytetojippity: it doesnt make much of a difference which distro you use, any gnu/linux live cd should do it, give ubuntu a try
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Then open it and it will install the theme for you.
[03:18] <vatsmonroe> yes thats the exact link i downloaded
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Ok, where did you download it to?
[03:18] <acolytetojippity> Danato: ok, thanks.   i use ubuntu on my laptop, but wasn't sure it would be the best fit for this
[03:18] <vatsmonroe> when i open it nothing happens it just sows me all the files
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Then you didn't download this file
[03:18] <vatsmonroe> well i actually extracted it to my desktop and try to do the sudo from there on the terminal
[03:18] <acolytetojippity> did you download the .deb, or the source?
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, you said you have a zipped file
[03:18] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, I liked to a deb
[03:19] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, it should be a .deb file
[03:19] <geekmasterflash> not an archive.
[03:19] <vatsmonroe> yes on the link if you notice there are two links actually one containing a zip file and another one that is not working
[03:19] <Beldar> acolytetojippity, the key to that sudo install is this. "To ensure you always get the newest version please use our repository."
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, I am looking at the .deb I just downloaded.
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, So, I think you should try again cause it works for me
[03:20] <vatsmonroe> geekmasterflash: mmmmm the one that say Azenis theme source
[03:20] <ObrienDave> vatsmonroe, right click the .deb, open with software center
[03:20] <minnieteddy> geekmaster dpkg -i foobar.deb
[03:20] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, http://tuxsax.deviantart.com/art/Azenis-Theme-Pack-0-2-130488330
[03:21] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, .deb link is on the right
[03:21] <vatsmonroe> wow i feel dumb now
[03:21] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Download that to home somewhere
[03:21] <minnieteddy> sorry geekmaster that was meant for vatsmonroe
[03:21] <acolytetojippity> vatsmonroe: i must know, what did you download? because i can't see any .zips on that page, at least not any obvious ones lol
[03:22] <Beldar> 3rd party apps are not supported here, take ot to private
[03:22] <Beldar> it*
[03:22] <axizor> hi, im new to smb, can someone tell me whats wrong with this syntax: smb://servername/user/sharepath
[03:22] <vatsmonroe> ill show you
[03:22] <geekmasterflash> axizor, Nothing obvious to me but it presumes the browser you are using can understand samba
[03:22] <vatsmonroe> http://www.themelinux.com/themes/azenis-theme-pack_0.0.3_all.tar.gz
[03:23] <maheanuu> IaOra to all, I  was recently given some new USB keys all 64 GB and none can be partitioned and formatted, I can see them on diskmanager, but fdisk gives me the following Error message
[03:23] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, If you want to use that tar ball go ahead, but the .deb I sent you will be easier.
[03:23] <axizor> can i replace "smb://" with the ip
[03:23] <xangua> vatsmonroe:  geekmasterflash that's a gtk2 theme, ubuntu uses gtk3
[03:23] <Beldar> maheanuu, try gparted
[03:24] <vatsmonroe> xangua: i was beggining to think that
[03:24] <maheanuu> Beldar, I have and all it sees is sda and sdb
[03:24] <vatsmonroe> yeap
[03:24] <Beldar> maheanuu, what is sdb?
[03:24] <vatsmonroe> package operation failed
[03:24] <acolytetojippity> vatsmonroe: yeah dude, use the .deb.  you said you're a noob to linux, so in this case imagine that .deb is a .exe that will install the theme for you, instead of you having to do a whole lot of stuff to get it working
[03:24] <axizor> anyone use android to stream videos from a samba server?
[03:24] <xangua> axizor: /join #android
[03:25] <axizor> good idea
[03:25] <vatsmonroe> acolytojippyty: yeap iam but it seems it is not compatible
[03:25] <vatsmonroe> im running ubuntu 13.10
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, Okay, so yeah the issue is the theme you want to use is old
[03:25] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, wont work in 13.10. I don't see any more newly updated info for it
[03:26] <vatsmonroe> any ideas as to where i can find new themes such as azenis?
[03:26] <xangua> vatsmonroe: gnome-look.org
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, I don't believe azenis is a new theme.
[03:26] <acolytetojippity> might...might it work with connamon?
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> vatsmonroe, The newest link I find for it is from 12.19
[03:26] <geekmasterflash> 12.10*
[03:26] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: that question was for you
[03:26] <vatsmonroe> wow i must say all of you guys are great, i appreciate all the help, its nice to have someone helping you out
[03:26] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: also i meant cinnamon.
[03:27] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, No idea, I have never used cinnamon
[03:27] <Disk1of5> hey all, i have a odd issue. i tried KDE by installing the kde-desktop packages.. i tried it for a bit then uninstalled it.. but i can't get back into unity.. lightdm just has a white background.. and when i log in i get a white screen with my cursor
[03:27] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: or am i thinking mate?
[03:27] <linuxlite1969> hi im new to python
[03:27] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, MATE is like gnome2
[03:27] <maheanuu> Beldar,Another external hard disk of 500GB Sata
[03:27] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, In this case, the issue is needing gtk2
[03:27] <vatsmonroe> I guess ill keep checking out for themes ill try the gnome page see if i can come up with something, THANK'S AGAIN GUYS much  obliged!!!!
[03:28] <geekmasterflash> acolytetojippity, It might work, provided MATE uses gtk2
[03:28] <Beldar> maheanuu, Do you know what they were formatted as, if formated?
[03:28] <reisio> linuxlite1969: hi, me too
[03:28] <acolytetojippity> geekmasterflash: not sure if it does or not, but the azenis theme looks like a reskin for gnome2 so...i thought it might work
[03:28] <maheanuu> Beldar, no idea, I received them and they were blank
[03:29] <acolytetojippity> Disk1of5: when you log in/boot, there is just a white screen?
[03:29]  * geekmasterflash longs for the days of Gnome2 when he could put an image in the background of nautaulis 
[03:29] <Beldar> maheanuu, how do you know if blank? what is the actual error you are getting form the disk manager?
[03:29] <maheanuu> Beldar, a friend bought them on his last visit to the US, and gave them to me, I have 4 or 5 all the same
[03:31] <maheanuu> BeldarNothing from disk manager I cannot do anything but see them, there is no way to do anything other than see that it is being inserted and "sdc"
[03:31] <acolytetojippity> maheanuu: do you happen to have a livecd of gParted lying around?
[03:32] <Beldar> maheanuu, Disk manager is a windows program right do you mean the app called disk?
[03:32] <maheanuu> No, and not sure how to set that up, am not a true newbie, but do need help
[03:33] <Payton> Hello i had a question i've been dieing to ask
[03:33] <daftykins> Payton: quick, type it!
[03:33] <maheanuu> Beldar, I meant disk util, pardon the mixup
[03:33] <Beldar> maheanuu, No meaning what I asked two questions, use nicks here you can tab complete them.
[03:33]  * geekmasterflash gets the difibulators in case Payton doesnt make it in time to ask
[03:33] <acolytetojippity> Payton: ak away
[03:34]  * acolytetojippity rolls eyes ar geek
[03:34] <Payton> Is there anyway to save ubuntu to a USB and revert back to win8 when i take the USB out?
[03:34] <acolytetojippity> *at
[03:34] <Beldar> maheanuu, Have you clicked the two little gear at the bottom left of the partition picture?
[03:34] <acolytetojippity> o.O
[03:34] <Payton> I'm a noob with ubuntu PC
[03:34] <acolytetojippity> Payton: you want to have plug-and-plau ubuntu you mean?
[03:34] <acolytetojippity> *play
[03:34] <Beldar> Payton, save what?
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Payton, You can either install it to the usb driver, or use it as a liveUSB
[03:34] <geekmasterflash> Payton, Which where you wanting?
[03:35] <maheanuu> Beldar,  I didn't see that, brb, will open diskutil now
[03:35] <Beldar> Payton, You can'y do anything with W8 from ubuntu except delete or change the partitions.
[03:35] <Payton> acolytetojippity: yes
[03:36] <Payton> Beldar: ?
[03:36] <xangua> Payton: you can install ubuntu on a USB yes, but don't expect it to have a long life
[03:37] <Beldar> Payton, I asked a question and then made a statement be spefic on what you do not understand, you question is rather flawed to begin with.
[03:37] <xangua> !persistent | Payton
[03:37] <Payton> xangua: But could i revert back to windows8 when i want?
[03:37] <Payton> Don't rush me
[03:37] <Payton> .
[03:37] <xangua> Payton: yes, you can use the usb stick in any computer; ubuntu would be installed on it
[03:38] <vlad_starkov> Question: Just installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit. On boot it freezes and shows "BUG: soft lockup - CPU stuck for 21s". Anyone know what is that?
[03:38] <Payton> xangua: would it change anything?
[03:38] <geekmasterflash> Payton, No one is rushing you. This is a channel with over a thousand users
[03:38] <asymm> ban me OP, i fucking dare u!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:38] <maheanuu> Beldar, all I have is format and remove drive controls and when I try to format the drive it gives me an error msg  "maheanuu@maheanuu-Satellite-S875:~$ sudo tail -c 0 -f /var/log/syslog
[03:38] <maheanuu> [sudo] password for maheanuu:
[03:38] <maheanuu> Nov 26 17:16:02 maheanuu-Satellite-S875 kernel: [18336.625539] usb 3-1: new high-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd
[03:38] <maheanuu> Nov 26 17:16:02 maheanuu-Satellite-S875 kernel: [18336.643382] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=1234
[03:38] <maheanuu> Nov 26 17:16:02 maheanuu-Satellite-S875 kernel: [18336.643386] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[03:38] <maheanuu> Nov 26 17:16:02 maheanuu-Satellite-S875 kernel: [18336.643388] usb 3-1: Product: Mass Storage Device
[03:38] <FloodBot1> maheanuu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:38] <Payton> geekmasterflash: i can see.
[03:38] <geekmasterflash> Payton, We are giving you the information you asked for
[03:38] <asymm> OP is a phaggot
[03:39] <somsip> !ops | asymm
[03:39] <maheanuu> Sorry about that, I surely did NOT mean to drop all that I meant only one small line
[03:39] <Beldar> maheanuu, You plugged in to a usb3 port?
[03:40] <nelsonsozinho> help
[03:40] <geekmasterflash> nelsonsozinho, With?
[03:42] <nelsonsozinho> Sorry, wrong window
[03:42] <acolytetojippity> Payton: you can install ubuntu to a USB drive.  you can then boot off of this drive, and use ubuntu.  when you are done, shut down the machine and pull the drive, then you can boot back into windows.  i don't thinkt here is anything that allows you to straight-up pull the drive while its in use and go right back to 8
[03:42] <Payton> acolytetojippity: but i can still revert to win8 when i restart right?
[03:42] <acolytetojippity> Payton: if you're worried about messing with your 8 install, i would recommend pulling the connector for that drive before installing ubuntu to the USB.  this eliminates any possibility of screwing up your 8 install
[03:43] <acolytetojippity> Payton: like i said, you shut down the PC while in ubuntu.  remove the drive.  then turn it back on.  the machine will go to windows8
[03:43] <ObrienDave> yes, one will not interfere with the other
[03:44] <Payton> acolytetojippity: Um, pull the drive out? Wouldn't it be running off of the USB though? and wouldn't that be slow?
[03:44] <ObrienDave> unless YOU do something really inappropriate. (meaning dumb)
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> Payton, Yes it would be slow... but isn't that what you are asking for?
[03:44] <geekmasterflash> Payton, To run it from USB
[03:45] <Payton> geekmasterflash: Yes but not for it to be slow.
[03:45] <Payton> geekmasterflash: I want to enjoy ubuntu too lol
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> Payton, Pick your poison then
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> Payton, USB will be slow.
[03:45] <Beldar> Payton, Run ubuntu in a virtual machine and have both.
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> Payton, Pretty much regardless.
[03:45] <humerusj_> Dual boot and have both
[03:46] <humerusj_> Live a little and partition your drive
[03:46] <acolytetojippity> Payton: you will be running ubuntu off of a USB driv e, yes.  to go back to windows 8, you would want to shut down and remove the drive (after the machine is off) then turn it back on and it will proceed to 8
[03:46] <Payton> humerusj_: That would take up disk space right?
[03:46] <humerusj_> Payton: of course
[03:47] <humerusj_> Everything will take up disk space
[03:47] <humerusj_> Especially a vm, which is sorta a waste
[03:47] <acolytetojippity> humerusj_: he wants to make sure it doesn't screw up 8...a valid concern if hes doing this stuff for the first time.  USB is a better option until ou get mroe comfortable
[03:47] <Payton> acolytetojippity: She*
[03:47] <Payton> acolytetojippity:  sorry
[03:47] <Beldar> Payton, I think the term revert is a brick wall here, what is your definition of revert?
[03:47] <acolytetojippity> Payton: my apologies, i meant no offence.
[03:47] <Payton> Beldar: Go Back
[03:47] <humerusj_> acolytetojippity: Does ubuntu have UEFI support?
[03:48] <geekmasterflash> humerusj_, Yes, but I hate it.
[03:48] <Payton> Beldar: Return
[03:48] <acolytetojippity> humerusj_: i know UEFI can screw up ubuntu installs, so...not sure
[03:48] <Payton> Beldar: ect
[03:48] <humerusj_> geekmasterflash: everyone hates it
[03:48] <humerusj_> Legacy for the win
[03:48] <geekmasterflash> humerusj_, UEFI and gpt have caused me no end of headaches
[03:49] <humerusj_> geekmasterflash: yup, there is truly no need for security at the boot level if you ask me
[03:49] <Beldar> Payton, bad syntax is all, not really a correct description.
[03:49] <acolytetojippity> Payton: there is no good way to instantly swap between the twoi, without using a virtual machine.  however, if restarting is acceptable, then running ubuntu off of a USB drive is a perfectly valid option.
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> humerusj_, sure there is. To convince people switching to Linux is too hard.
[03:49] <geekmasterflash> humerusj_, It was Microsoft that asked for it
[03:50] <Lupus> Hm, anyone here experienced with gparted??
[03:50] <Payton> acolytetojippity: Thanks that was all i need
[03:50] <humerusj_> geekmasterflash: it's all about the money
[03:50] <Payton> Lupus: Of course
[03:50] <acolytetojippity> Payton: no problem.  and, sorry about the "he" thing.
[03:50] <maheanuu> Beldar, pardon the tardiness, I flooded, and was muted and I know better, My mistake,
[03:50] <Beldar> geekmasterflash, Please keep the fud to yourself this is support
[03:50] <Payton> acolytetojippity: lol
[03:50] <Lupus> Beautiful. Can i expand a partition to the left?
[03:50] <Lupus> Ill post a screenshot in a sec
[03:51] <maheanuu> Beldar, and now if we can get back I will need to go to the Ubuntu copy and paste page (?) if I can remember it
[03:52] <acolytetojippity> maheanuu: link at top of page for the pastebin
[03:52] <rarsauce> Hey guys, everytime I setup ubuntu installed to a USB its *really* slow, everything stalls and lags out on me and freezes for sometimes 30+ seconds whenever I open it.
[03:52] <rarsauce> Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Its very not normal.
[03:52] <Payton> maheanuu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:52] <rarsauce> Also, this occurs on different USB sticks, booted from different computers, with the same lag.
[03:52] <Beldar> maheanuu, I wonder if you are plugging the usb's into a usb 3 port and this is part of the problem, missing drivers maybe, just a guess.
[03:53] <Beldar> maheanuu, Do you have a windows install to look at them with or apple?
[03:53] <humerusj_> It would be nice if everyone had access to a pxe system
[03:53] <Lupus> Payton - bit.ly/lbmFHEH is my gparted screenshot
[03:53] <Beldar> humerusj_, This is support not chat, it is busy here and the comments get in the way.
[03:54] <Lupus> I want to expand sda5 into that unallocated
[03:54] <humerusj_> Beldar: understood
[03:54] <Payton> Lupus: Page not found
[03:54] <humerusj_> I'll go anyway.
[03:54] <Lupus> Oh, oops...
[03:54] <THeNine> #sex
[03:54] <Beldar> Lupus, Has to be unmounted.
[03:54] <Lupus> Bit.ly/1bmFHEH
[03:55] <Lupus> Running off live usb
[03:55] <Lupus> So nothing is mounted
[03:55] <Beldar> Lupus, Swap unmounted, what is the actual issue?
[03:55] <rarsauce> Also, I should note that these USB installs are with a encrypted LVM from the alternate iso. I dont know if that would slow things down to a grinding halt like it does....
[03:55] <Beldar> Lupus, A screenshot of gparted would save time.
[03:55] <Lupus> Beldar, link above
[03:56] <Lupus> Bit.ly/1bmFHEH here as well
[03:57] <Beldar> Lupus, unmount the swap
[03:57] <Lupus> Is due to where they start?
[03:57] <Lupus> Select swapoff in gparted right click menu?
[03:57] <Lupus> Or terminal command?
[03:58] <maheanuu> Beldar, here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482502/
[03:58] <Beldar> Lupus, You have the partitions out of numerical order that is your problem
[03:58] <chicognu> i need help to install a scanner on ubunt 12.04 http://a1227.g.akamai.net/f/1227/40484/7d/download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/01/00/01/77/07/756b043f6ba33704c14a81b7bc30b46029c99d4b/epson-inkjet-printer-201204w_1.0.0-1lsb3.2_i386.deb here is the link for the package
[03:59] <Lupus> Ah. So... Now what? Lol. The sda3 is an extended partition, does that effect?
[03:59] <vlad_starkov> Question: Is there any reason to choose Ubuntu 64bit?
[03:59] <chicognu> i need hel to isntall a scanner on ubuntu 12.04 here is the package: http://a1227.g.akamai.net/f/1227/40484/7d/download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/f/01/00/02/36/65/677c7c561d602375700f28051fb61e23194d6995/iscan_2.29.2-1~usb0.1.ltdl3_i386.deb
[03:59] <maheanuu> Beldar,I am not sure, let me try another port
[03:59] <Lupus> Chicognu, wait, its busy here.
[04:00] <Beldar> Lupus, You can't resize a partition higher than one above it in gparted anyway
[04:00] <xangua> vlad_starkov: if your hardware is 64bit, use 64bit
[04:00] <Lupus> So, i should just reinstall ubuntu into that larger partition?
[04:00] <chicognu> Lupus, no problem, i said it twice cuz i mistake on the first likk
[04:00] <Beldar> maheanuu, To be honest I'm not sure, to many varibles to go through.
[04:00] <vlad_starkov> xangua: Just installed 64bit on Xeon E5345 and while booting it freezes with message: "BUG: soft lockup - CPU stuck for"
[04:01] <Beldar> Lupus, I would clone all of that and get the partitions in correct numerical order.
[04:01] <maheanuu> Beldar, I just tried all the ports and the same thing happens
[04:01] <vlad_starkov> xangua: Is it possible that there is some incompatibles for 64bit architecture
[04:01] <Lupus> By doing what? Lol. Sorry dude, new to thia
[04:01] <Lupus> *this
[04:01] <Beldar> maheanuu, You have access to a MS or apple computer?
[04:02] <Beldar> Lupus, clone is as it sounds.
[04:02] <maheanuu> Beldar, I just tried all the ports and the same thing happens
[04:02] <Lupus> I see no clone option in gparted
[04:03] <Beldar> Lupus, Did not say it does.
[04:03] <somsip> chicognu: exactly what is the problem?
[04:03] <maheanuu>  Beldar, possibly but not in english,
[04:03] <chicognu> somsip, i think it is some dependency problem
[04:03] <maheanuu> Beldar, I have only Ubuntu and android here, nothing else except cubie
[04:03] <Lupus> Think i might just install into that free space
[04:04] <somsip> chicognu: best if you pastebin some output with details
[04:04] <Beldar> maheanuu, Not really sure here to be honest.
[04:05] <maheanuu> Beldar, give you a little idea of my level, I am a retired usn chief petty officer, electronics technician  and worked as a field engineer for sperry univac for the navy also then retired to Tahiti and have lived here for 37 years and am older than dirt
[04:05] <Beldar> Lupus, As long as you have your partitons out of numerical order looking at gparted from left to right you are going to have some problems.
[04:05] <alexandros_c> hello, I am running ubuntu gnome and I notices in my log that I am getting errors. After some research I found it was because /var/spool/rsyslog is missing. Can anyone tell me how to fix this problem?
[04:05] <Beldar> maheanuu, I turn 50 next year so, hehe
[04:05] <maheanuu> I will had them off to a friend on the next island over and see if he can format them ntfs for me
[04:06] <maheanuu> I am 75 last Mar &
[04:06] <chicognu> somsip, http://pastebin.com/LPVzHhcK
[04:06] <maheanuu> 7th dammit
[04:06] <Beldar> maheanuu, Good job you made it this far. ;)
[04:06] <Lupus> So Beldar, can i delete the old Ubuntu partition and reinstall into the unallocated space in the screenshot?
[04:07] <somsip> chicognu: and what happens when you try to install the missing package?
[04:07] <rarsauce> Hey guys, everytime I setup ubuntu installed to a USB its *really* slow, everything stalls and lags out on me and freezes for sometimes 30+ seconds whenever I open it.
[04:07] <maheanuu> I still work and learn, i will never quit...  Too much to keep up on and busy with to lay back and watch the world wobble off it's axis
[04:07] <Beldar> Lupus, not sure what you mean, all I can really say is fix the partition conundrum.
[04:07] <rarsauce> Is there anything I can do to speed this up? Its very not normal.
[04:08] <Lupus> Mm. Ill google clone and change order and see
[04:08] <Beldar> rarsauce, a usb always runs slow.
[04:08] <chicognu> and it looks easy at first,  iscan depends on libltdl3 (>= 1.5.2-2); however:
[04:08] <chicognu>   Package libltdl3 is not installed.
[04:08] <rarsauce> Beldar: I run tails and its lightning fast
[04:08] <rarsauce> 30 seconds of lag while a program stalls is not because its installed via USB
[04:09] <jeremyb> who controls what goes on http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/asus ?
[04:09] <Beldar> rarsauce, not sure your point.
[04:10] <chicognu> somsip, there is not a version 3 of that lib assis@security:~/Downloads$ apt-cache search libltdl
[04:10] <chicognu> libltdl-dev - A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool
[04:10] <chicognu> libltdl7 - A system independent dlopen wrapper for GNU libtool libguile-ltdl-1 - Guile's patched version of libtool's libltdl
[04:10] <Lupus> Beldar - using fdisk to fix parition order says its in order
[04:10] <Beldar> rarsauce, This a fullinstall or just the ISO?
[04:10] <jeremyb> seems a bit silly to be linking to a product on amazon if said product is "currently unavailable"
[04:10] <rarsauce> Beldar: The point is TAILS is a USB based OS that runs lightning fast via USB. The USB is not the bottleneck. This is a full install using the alternate cd installation
[04:10] <zee_hax0r> Is ubuntu like windows?
[04:10] <jeremyb> (you could still link to it but at least don't show it so prominently)
[04:10] <Beldar> Lupus, if you have it in order then the sda5 would be resizeable with the swap off.
[04:11] <Beldar> zee_hax0r, No.
[04:11] <zee_hax0r> Can I make it like Windows 95?
[04:11] <somsip> chicognu: this might help http://is.gd/oz9sFY
[04:11] <Beldar> zee_hax0r, No totally different and this is offtopic.
[04:11] <rarsauce> I have seen ubuntu run quickly from USB before, but it seems everytime I do a new install its *very* slow
[04:11] <chicognu> here is what happen if i try to install version 7 http://pastebin.com/3NZ5QVzR
[04:12] <Beldar> rarsauce, tails is not ubuntu, that is a faulty comparison, means nothing.
[04:12] <jeremyb> seems like a lively channel (haven't been here much recently) but no answer for me :-/ (admittedly there may be a more relevant place to ask, idk)
[04:12] <rarsauce> I was trying to state that the USB is not the issue, nor is installing to USB
[04:12] <rarsauce> Are you trying to say the fault is within ubuntu via USB installation?
[04:12] <rarsauce> That its always this slow and laggy on every system?
[04:13] <ObrienDave> USB2 install would be slower than normal HD or SSD
[04:13] <rarsauce> i find it hard to believe people have 20-30 second window freezes upon launching a new program
[04:13] <Beldar> rarsauce, First use nicks here you can tab complete them, my point is a usb does not read as fast a s a internal HD.
[04:13] <Lupus> Beldar - i have turned swap off, i have ran fdisk which tells me there is no ordering problem yet i still cannot resize
[04:13] <ObrienDave> possibly USB3 also
[04:13] <Beldar> Lupus, Are they out of order in gpartd still?
[04:13] <rarsauce> ObrienDave: Yes, im looking to get a 3.0 usb key to install it to to test :)
[04:14] <Lupus> They look exactly like the screenshot, but fdisk cannot reorder them
[04:14] <jeremyb> Beldar: your last msg to rarsauce could use some more punctuation :-]
[04:14] <Beldar> jeremyb, I will pass that on to my grad professors, thanks.
[04:14] <Beldar> lol
[04:14] <jeremyb> :D
[04:15] <chicognu> ok, that help a little, and mekes me feel dumb for the next 10 years
[04:15] <chicognu> ok, that help a little, and mekes me feel dumb for the next 10 years somsip
[04:15] <fixmypc956> so i made an fstab change a few days ago cause it was recommended...i still dont know if my 1tb hd is mounted for my files and apperrantly i created /home on the hd and didnt know that /home is created during install....how can i remove that fstab change? because of that change i also get this message when i connect to my server thru putty...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482555/
[04:15] <rarsauce> As for my nick not auto completing, isnt that a issue with your client?>
[04:15] <rarsauce> I've never had that issue in my life, and i've been on irc for 20+ years
[04:15] <rarsauce> type a nick, hit tab, bam, autocomplete.
[04:15] <chicognu> but now i get assis@security:~/Downloads$ scanimage -L device `epkowa:usb:001:004' is a Epson (unknown model) flatbed scanner assis@security:~/Downloads$
[04:15] <Beldar> Lupus, Youir are reading fdisk incorrectly.
[04:15] <jeremyb> rarsauce: he was saying *you* should use other people's nicks more. not he had a problem completing yours
[04:15] <Beldar> you are*
[04:15] <rarsauce> Oh, sure. Thanks.
[04:16] <Beldar> jeremyb, Honestly, I can't believe your that stupid to say that here.
[04:16] <somsip> chicognu: no idea about that. Installation issues I can help with. Getting printers and scanners working is not something I can help with
[04:16] <rarsauce> Also, are there any tips or hacks I can do to speed things up?
[04:17] <jeremyb> Beldar: my threading's broken, what are you replying to?
[04:17] <jeremyb> rarsauce: you could try debootstrap and see if that's faster?
[04:17] <Beldar> rarsauce, when you actually use a nick it shows.
[04:17] <Lupus> Beldar - bit.ly/18GoDnU
[04:17] <jeremyb> rarsauce: you could try with a local (on your LAN) mirror
[04:18] <rarsauce> Beldar: If I do a clone of one USB key to another USB key, and the 2nd one runs *ultra* slow (like way way way slower than what im complaining about) is there anything i can do to fix it?
[04:18] <chicognu> somsip, well the scanner is now working inside libreoffice I would kiss you but it would be a little bit gay ... so a big thanks will be fine :)
[04:18] <rarsauce> Im trying to make a 1:1 clone of my usb key as I use it as my bitcoin wallet aswell
[04:18] <somsip> chicognu: thanks are mych preferred ;-)
[04:18] <somsip> *much
[04:19] <chicognu> :D
[04:19] <jeremyb> rarsauce: unclear to me if this is theoretical or you have an actual case to demonstrate
[04:19] <Beldar> rarsauce, Might try a fsck, there are different levels of ssd read speeds, I'm not sure if this is the same with a usb flash.
[04:19] <Beldar> Lupus, nice picture.
[04:19] <Lupus> Aw, dammit!
[04:19] <Lupus> Stupid link!
[04:19] <Beldar> ;)
[04:20] <Lupus> Hold on - urgh bit.ly/18G0DnU
[04:20] <Beldar> Lupus, fdisk will show the partitions in numerical order look at the mb
[04:21] <Lupus> Then what did i run in the screenshot?
[04:21] <Lupus> Thats what the wiki said to do
[04:22] <Beldar> Lupus, use imagebin or pastebin, photobucket does not even render an image in my FF setup, I have to use opera and the pics are to small to really read.
[04:23] <rarsauce> jeremyb: I have 1PNY 16gb key i cloned to a HP 15GB key, and the HP key runs so slow it takes about 5 minutes just to open 2 windows
[04:23] <rarsauce> HP 16gb *
[04:23] <jeremyb> Beldar: slow but does WFM in iceweasel fwiw. http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y464/LL-Lupus07/Screenshotfrom2013-11-27041603_zpsa88fc808.png
[04:23] <Beldar> Lupus, Pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[04:23] <Lupus> Beldar - imagebin.org/279124
[04:24] <Beldar> Lupus, Pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[04:24] <Lupus> Doing now
[04:24] <jeremyb> rarsauce: you should try other perf tests. maybe just dd with /dev/zero / /dev/null a bit
[04:25] <Lupus> Paste.ubuntu.com/6482597
[04:25] <Lupus> Beldar ^
[04:25] <fixmypc956> so i made an fstab change a few days ago cause it was recommended...i still dont know if my 1tb hd is mounted for my files and apperrantly i created /home on the hd and didnt know that /home is created during install....how can i remove that fstab change? because of that change i also get this message when i connect to my server thru putty...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482555/
[04:26] <rarsauce> jeremyb: I apologize but im not super nix savvy. What precisely and specifically should I do?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Lupus: That numbering is completey normal and expected since partition number 3 is an extended partition, and logical partitions always have numbers greater than 4.
[04:26] <Beldar> Lupus, Notice the start and stop of the partitions
[04:26] <jeremyb> rarsauce: you should try to make a narrower test case. find which part of the equation is slow
[04:27] <rarsauce> I would love to do that, could you explain how please?
[04:27] <Lupus> Beldar - remember the large unallocated space after sda2
[04:27] <Beldar> Lupus, Yes
[04:28] <Jordan_U> fixmypc956: Did you make a backup of your original fstab? (if not, hopefully you've learned your lesson now for the future) Please pastebin your fstab and explain exactly what you changed.
[04:28] <Beldar> Lupus, I have the feeling you do not understand.
[04:28] <Lupus> Beldar - isnt that why in the support channel?
[04:28] <Lupus> No, i dont
[04:29] <Beldar> Lupus, Sure and I have clearly more than once explained it to you.
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Lupus' partitions are *not* "out of order".
[04:29] <Lupus> Jordan_U im trying to make sda5 larger, but gparted wont let me with swap off according to bit.ly/1bmFHEH
[04:30] <Jordan_U> Lupus: I seem to remember that GParted won't resize extended partitions for some reason, even though it's possible to do.
[04:30] <Lupus> Im getting to the stage where i might reinstall ubuntu
[04:30] <Lupus> Into that section
[04:31] <Lupus> Screw it, im doing that.
[04:31] <Lupus> Thanks Beldar and Jordan_U
[04:31] <Beldar> Jordan_U, When he showed a gparted picture they were, he said he fixed it so I said do what you wanted to it should work now, it has been a little or no real communication that is understandable situation to be honest.
[04:31] <jeremyb> rarsauce: nope, sorry :) (i could tell you how to use dd but so could `man dd` and i don't have a lot of time to spare right now. likewise i could google terms like "linux disk stress test" for you but you could do that yourself and again not much spare time atm)
[04:32] <Jordan_U> Beldar: I looked at Lupus' original screenshot, please see my earlier explanation as to why that should not be considered "out of order".
[04:32] <rarsauce> Sure, no problem, thats enough info to go ont
[04:32] <rarsauce> jeremyb: thanks!
[04:32] <fixmypc956> Jordan_U: no backup...lesson learned...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482612/  wanted to mount 1tb hd with /home...OS is installed on usb flash drive...
[04:33] <Beldar> Jordan_U, YOu came on long after the first screenshot and now it is expired.
[04:34] <Beldar> Jordan_U, If he posted another gparted screenie I did not see it,
[04:34] <Beldar> I know how to read gparted and fdisk, if I made an error it was due to the fact of terrible communication.
[04:36] <Jordan_U> Beldar: The first working link that Lupus posted was: Bit.ly/1bmFHEH, which is *not* an example of "out of order" partitions, even though sda5 and sda6 come before sda4 on disk.
[04:37] <rarsauce> does apt-get update/upgrade install everything that would normally be listed in the ubuntu software center?
[04:37] <rarsauce> is the software center just a GUI for apt-get upgrade?
[04:37] <wafflejock> rarsauce: yea
[04:37] <Beldar> Jordan_U, sda5 is before sda4 on that shot
[04:38] <Beldar> sda4 is the last partition
[04:38] <rarsauce> great, thanks wafflejock :)
[04:38] <wafflejock> !apt > rarsauce
[04:38] <wafflejock> rarsauce: np
[04:39] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Yes, which is expected because any partition whose number is > 4 is a logical partition, and any logical partition is by definition within an extended partition, and the extended partition in this case is sda3, which comes before sda4.
[04:39] <GuybrushThreepwo> I currently have ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bit and have the default AMD Radeon HD 7660G  driver. Can anyone help me upgrade to the proprietory driver?
[04:40] <fixmypc956> Jordan_U: no backup...lesson learned...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482612/  wanted to mount 1tb hd with /home...OS is installed on usb flash drive...
[04:40] <Beldar> Jordan_U, the extended reads left to right sda5 sda6 sda4 that is out of order
[04:41] <Jordan_U> Beldar: All of the primary slots are in order disk order, and all of the logical partitions are in disk order. Any time you use any primary partition other than 4 as an extended partition you will get numbering like this, it is normal.
[04:41] <Beldar> Jordan_U, If you delete partitions yes, but not if you reformat them.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Please give an example of a disk with 3 primary partitions and one or more logical partitions, where the extended partition is sda3.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Beldar: (An example which you would consider "in order").
[04:42] <Beldar> Jordan_U, My point was only that having partitions out of order can keep gparted from resizing, however they did not know about resizing sda3 to resize sda5.
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Beldar: That is not something that GParted would consider out of order, nor would fdisk or any other tool consider it out of order. You are misunderstanding how extended and logical partitions work and their numbering.
[04:43] <Beldar> Jordan_U, Not sure your argument, honestly it makes no sense to me.
[04:44] <garshasp> Beldar, i have lxde for free
[04:44] <garshasp> so there ya go
[04:45] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Do you understand that any partition numbered '5' is by definition a logical partition (when using an msdos partition table)?
[04:45] <Beldar> Jordan_U, There may be some technical part I'm not getting, however I have found trying to resize a partition with one as a lower number above to be problematic.
[04:45] <Beldar> yes
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Do you understand that a primary partition is by definition contained within an extended partition?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Sorry, s/primary/logical/ in that last comment.
[04:46] <hashguy> Is there something in 13.10 that would cause my SSH connections to be closed after a period of inactivity?
[04:46] <hashguy> this used to not happen
[04:46] <DarkAceLaptop> what's the command to open the settings manager that comes with Unity?
[04:47] <Jordan_U> fixmypc956: It looks like you just added line #15, you should be able to just prepend a '#' to that line to make it a comment, and get back to how things were (assuming you didn't change anything else).
[04:47] <Beldar> Jordan_U, for the record this is how well I understand this. http://imagebin.org/279125
[04:47] <Beldar> 4 OS
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Do you understand that a logical partition is by definition contained within an extended partition?
[04:48] <Beldar> all in order inspite of removing all and reloading others at times
[04:48] <Beldar> Jordan_U, Are you kidding me
[04:48] <Jordan_U> Beldar: Yes or no?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> yes
[04:49] <w0nder> How can i disable the spyware within ubuntu?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Do you understand that sda3 can be an extended partition? (in your example sda4 is the extended partition)
[04:49] <hashguy> w0nder: LOL - the what?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> yes
[04:49] <fixmypc956> Jordan_U: will doing that let me see the original /home?
[04:49] <Jordan_U> fixmypc956: Yes.
[04:49] <w0nder> hashguy: The whole sending stuff to amazon crap
[04:50] <hashguy> w0nder: What you talking about? My ubuntu doesn't send anything to Amazon.
[04:50] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: Do you think that it is possible to have sda3 be an extended partition containing logical partitions, and for sda4 (a primary partition) to exist, without partitions being "out of order"?
[04:51] <Danato> is there a video to mp3 software installed on ubuntu by default?
[04:51] <hashguy> w0nder: Oh, you must be using ubuntu on desktop
[04:51] <Jordan_U> Danato: No, but you there are many programs available in the default repositories that can do this.
[04:51] <hashguy> Danato: Unlikely, since MP3 is patented - maybe check in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Yes, I was missreading the sda4 as inside the extended.
[04:52] <hashguy> w0nder: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping
[04:52] <fixmypc956> jordan_u: does /home have anything in it from initial install other than lost+found?
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Will this cause in error in gparted though in resizing the sda5?
[04:53] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: No.
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, Ah, I missread the screenshot it was hardly readable in the photobucket to begin with, thanks.
[04:54] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: sda4 can never be within an extended partition, because partitions whose number is 4,3,2, or 1 are by definition primary.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> I know that, that must be a MS built exteneded\
[04:55] <Jordan_U> wilee-nilee: You're welcome.And for the record you were right about the real problem (Lupus' swap partition was in use) :)
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> Jordan_U, I should of asked for a better picture of the screenshot, hehe
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> and payed closer attention of course
[04:56] <Danato> hashguy: I already have ubuntu-restricted-extras, I thought it was jst a plugin thing. but does it come with any software?
[04:58] <fixmypc956> jordan_u: does /home have anything in it from initial install other than lost+found? and when i log onto my server i still get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6482678/
[04:58] <somsip> !adlens w0nder
[04:58] <somsip> !adlens | w0nder
[04:59] <Jordan_U> fixmypc956: Changes to /etc/fstab only make a difference the next time you try to mount somthing, or at boot. You can either reboot (to be sure that the change fixed things permanently) or run "sudo umount /home/" to temporarily fix things.
[05:00] <erek> what is the default root password on a ubuntu installation?
[05:01] <fixmypc956> jordan_u: ok let me try and reboot
[05:01] <Jordan_U> !root | erek
[05:01] <erek> i installed ubuntu and my non-super user has a pword, but root i have no idea
[05:01] <erek> thanks
[05:02] <Jordan_U> erek: You're welcome.
[05:02] <erek> couldn't applications of miliacious origin exploit that?
[05:05] <edenist> erek: sudo still needs your account's password. That is why whenever anything requires elevated permissions, it prompts you for your password
[05:06] <erek> oh
[05:07] <xangua> !root | erek
[05:07] <xangua> sorry :P
[05:07] <erek> im going to figure out the root password
[05:08] <bariho> I'm thinking about buying a thinkpad t400 with this graphics chip(s): Switchable Graphics with Intel GMA 4500MHD and ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3470 (256 MB). how well is this supported on ubuntu? is it possible to switch while the system is running?
[05:08] <erek> i bet there's a way to figure out the root password
[05:09] <Beldar> !root | erek
[05:11] <Beldar> erek, You can't find what does not exist
[05:12] <vocx> erek, you can always create a root account with a root password in Ubuntu. However, the Ubuntu model is that this is unnecessary, because you can temporarily elevate privileges through "sudo".
[05:12] <hashguy> Danato: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:14] <DarkAceLaptop> what's the command to open the settings manager that comes with Unity?
[05:15] <JordanJ2> Compiz?
[05:16] <geekmasterflash> DarkAceLaptop, ccsm if you want to edit compiz settings, but that means getting the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[05:16] <DarkAceLaptop> no, not compiz...
[05:17] <kkkkkkk> hi all, is there any way to fast detect 3g modem ubuntu, on windows i am able to connect from initilized modem within 15-seconds, here it takes more than a minutes, sometimes 2 minutes or more
[05:17] <kkkkkkk> i have micromax 352g 3g data card
[05:17] <vocx> Is there a package I need to install in order to be able to hibernate a computer. I just installed Ubuntu on a virtual machine, and I cannot hibernate it. However, since it's not a physical hardware, I presume this may be a reason.
[05:17] <Danato> hashguy: is anything there to convert video to mp3?
[05:17] <kkkkkkk> it works but detection is slow
[05:18] <ObrienDave> vocx, hibernate is disabled by default
[05:18] <vocx> ObrienDave, really? Where do I activate it?
[05:18] <ObrienDave> https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faskubuntu.com%2Fquestions%2F94754%2F&ei=soCVUsjLLYrjoAT-_IDwDg&usg=AFQjCNGE2B2QbBhlyl6nVf_0KWJq41yJow&sig2=VcvgSPBEYLbZurB_7Z9hnA
[05:19] <ObrienDave> dang, hang on
[05:19] <ObrienDave> http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[05:19] <hashguy> Danato: It has a section on MP3
[05:19] <vocx> kkkkkkk, I would say there is little to do. When it comes to hardware, it may be that the device just works better with the Windows drivers than with the Ubuntu ones.
[05:20] <kkkkkkk> vocx: then nothing can be done, :(
[05:20] <leviathan_> How do I block all but the two user accounts I use on ssh?
[05:21] <jmgk> :(
[05:22] <leviathan_> restate my question: how do block all accounts from using ssh except the ones I want.
[05:22] <hashguy> leviathan_: set their shells to /bin/false
[05:23] <vocx> kkkkkkk, that's the thing with hardware. As long as it works, I would not mind.
[05:23] <xangua> http://www.pauljoyceuk.com/codex/2012/howto-make-ubuntu-12-04-hibernate-successfully/
[05:24] <leviathan_> hashguy: how do I do that?
[05:24] <kkkkkkk> vocx: it is working but slow, and a workaround is just a workaround, things should work out of the box and in that way more people will opt for linux
[05:24] <vocx> ObrienDave, thanks for the read. I do remember hibernation is a major issue. It never "just works", for some it does, not for other people.
[05:24] <hashguy> leviathan_: sudo vipw
[05:24] <hashguy> leviathan_: the last field on every line is the shell
[05:24] <hashguy> fields are divided by a colon
[05:25] <hashguy> change the shell from whatever it is to /bin/false, and that account cannot login anymore
[05:25] <leviathan_> that won't affect anything else, like programs that use those accounts?
[05:26] <erek> isn't there a way to get the root password?
[05:26] <hashguy> leviathan_: Not that I know of
[05:26] <hashguy> erek: not a sane one, no
[05:26] <erek> hashguy: ah
[05:26] <erek> hashguy: but it is possible
[05:26] <xangua> !noroot | erek
[05:27] <Beldar> erek, There is not one, you have to make it and it is not advised per the way the OS is designed.
[05:27] <hashguy> Well, in theory, if you have /etc/shadow and a ton of CPU cycles sitting around, you could possibly find a collision
[05:27] <hashguy> erek: But in recent Linux, root shouldn't even *have* a password
[05:27] <erek> hashguy: would gpu acceleration work?
[05:27] <hashguy> it's disabled entirely
[05:27] <hashguy> erek: Depends on what hashing algorithm you used to set root's password
[05:27] <erek> gpu accelerated hash cracker
[05:27] <erek> ohg
[05:27] <erek> oh
[05:27] <erek> !wfm
[05:28] <FloodBot1> erek: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <hashguy> erek: Why are you asking?
[05:29] <leviathan_> Is there another way to limit ssh account access? Like a deny all, allow user1 user2? That way I don't have to go back and edit any new user accounts. Only when I want to allow access.
[05:29] <erek> hashguy: having a root password is more familiar to me
[05:30] <Beldar> erek, That may be, however ubuntu is designed differently that OS's that have a root password, you are defeating yourself in trying.
[05:30] <Beldar> than*
[05:30] <hashguy> erek: And healing people by releasing their blood and "yellow bile" was more familiar to the ancient Greeks than actual medicine. Get with the times.
[05:30] <Foxhoundz> where does mysqld store logs?
[05:30] <erek> hashguy: do most other distributions handle root in a similar fashion?
[05:30] <hashguy> erek: yes
[05:30] <Beldar> hehe good analogy hashashin
[05:31] <Beldar> hashguy, ^^
[05:31] <hashguy> Foxhoundz: Most likely under /var/log/mysql*
[05:32] <Foxhoundz> 131127  5:30:03 [ERROR] Unknown/unsupported storage engine: InnoDB
[05:32] <Foxhoundz> But..
[05:32] <Foxhoundz> that doesn't make sense
[05:33] <hashguy> Foxhoundz: sounds liek your mysql doesn't have innodb support
[05:35] <Foxhoundz> innodb should be installed with mysql by default
[05:35] <hashguy> is that true in ubuntu?
[05:35] <hashguy> I don't know, I don't use mysql
[05:35] <hashguy> I know that innodb used to be non-free software, maybe they can't include it for license
[05:36] <wafflejock> Foxhoundz: do some googling looks like corrupt db files can cause the error, prob need to do some further debugging now that you have an error in hand
[05:37] <vlad_starkov> Question: Does anyone know what the hell is that http://cl.ly/image/310g2D1K462E ? "BUG soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck..."
[05:37] <ObrienDave> vocx, seems to be another method for 13.10 http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/10/enable-hibernation-ubuntu-13-10/
[05:38] <hashguy> vlad_starkov: I've seen that before when using cheap ethernet cards that expect to offload everything to the CPU, and then the machine gets hit really hard by network traffice
[05:41] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 on Supermicro 6015B-TB with 2xXeons E5345 / 16GB RAM/ RAID 10 (4TB)
[05:42] <hashguy> vlad_starkov: What does 'cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource' say?
[05:43] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: the system even doesn't boot
[05:43] <vlad_starkov> is it possible that 4Tb partition is too big for Ubuntu?
[05:43] <vlad_starkov> Or 32Gb SWAP is too big?
[05:43] <hashguy> Ubuntu doesn't limit the partition size, but your FS selection might
[05:44] <hashguy> I don't know why you'd ever run a 32GB swap
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !swap | vlad_starkov
[05:45] <csst0111> hi, I'm from my laptop right now. I just opened the desktop and instead of the login screen with the bg image it gives me a command line prompt. Yesterday *everything* was normal!
[05:45] <csst0111> what should I do now? what happened?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: did you update recently?
[05:45] <csst0111> lotuspsychje, 2-3 days ago maybe
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: hold shift at boot and enter grub, try to boot into another kernel
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: if that doesnt work boot another kernel in recoverymode and choose failsafeX
[05:48] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: I use ext4
[05:48] <Foxhoundz> where is the mysql conf file stored on ubunut
[05:48] <hashguy> vlad_starkov: ext4 is just fine with a 4TiB partition
[05:48] <hashguy> Foxhoundz: probably under /etc/mysql
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | Foxhoundz
[05:49] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: I use ext4
[05:49] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: OK
[05:50] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: so what can be cause of the problem?
[05:50] <hashguy> Foxhoundz: try  dpkg -L mysql-common
[05:50] <hashguy> vlad_starkov: Lots of things
[05:50] <hashguy> vlad_starkov: Try a newer version of Ubuntu
[05:50] <Foxhoundz> thanks
[05:50] <vlad_starkov> hashguy: 13?
[05:50] <Foxhoundz> found it under /etc/mysql/
[05:50] <hashguy> sure
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | hashguy
[05:51] <csst0111> lotuspsychje, I changed to 3.2.0-54 instead of 55 and doesnt work. So I'm choosing recoverymode...
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: yes try one in recoverymode and choose failsafeX from the list, it might work..
[05:52] <erek> does anyone here use ReiserFS?
[05:53] <hashguy> LOL - no murderers here!
[05:53] <hashguy> too soon?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !reiserfs | erek
[05:53] <erek> it's still being developed i thought
[05:54] <hashguy> erek: WP says "Reiser4's continued development is uncertain following its namesake's conviction for murder."
[05:54] <csst0111> lotuspsychje, nothing. It gives me "no screens error" and now I remember I updated yesterday the drivers for my graphic card :(
[05:55] <hashguy> erek: Ted Ts'o says use btrfs
[05:55] <erek> !btrfs
[05:55] <erek> how fast is it
[05:55] <hashguy> probably fast enough
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: so after failsafeX it doesnt wanna start either?
[05:55] <SwedeMike> erek: what problem are you trying to solve?
[05:55] <csst0111> yes it doesnt start!
[05:55] <erek> it sucks that ReiserFS isn't good for real-time audio
[05:56] <erek> SwedeMike: looking for the highest performing FS in existence
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: try fix broken packages from list then (recoverymode)
[05:56] <SwedeMike> erek: there is no such thing. They all have strengths and weaknesses.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: this might take a while
[05:56] <hashguy> erek: highest performing on what benchmark
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> csst0111: are you on 13.10?
[05:56] <erek> hashguy: rendering, real-time audio, and gaming
[05:57] <hashguy> Those aren't filesystem benchmarks
[05:57] <erek> would it be possible to create a dynamic FS? that could adjust itself for the workload?
[05:57] <SwedeMike> erek: then ext4 or XFS will work fine. They're stable and have good performance.
[05:57] <csst0111> lotuspsychje, nope 12.04
[05:57] <erek> SwedeMike: i've liked XFS before
[05:58]  * ObrienDave has hibernate back. yay
[05:59] <hashguy> erek: https://oss.oracle.com/projects/btrfs/dist/documentation/benchmark.html
[06:00] <erek> hashguy: interesting
[06:01] <hashguy> that gives you an idea of the kinds of things people benchmark filesystems on
[06:01] <hashguy> "Gaming" isn't a benchmark
[06:01] <hashguy> "Create new files" is
[06:02] <erek> hashguy: read times for loading
[06:02] <chicognu> Ok: I want my virtual box machine uses some USB devices. It can't find any devices when I start with normal user, but as ROOT it show the USB devices connected. Só how I can solve this ?
[06:04] <Beldar> chicognu, What is the virtual OS?
[06:04] <dad06> ?
[06:05] <dad06> hello
[06:05] <ianspersonal> hey
[06:05] <chicognu> Beldar, windows xp ... but i think it is about some permission on usb devices
[06:05] <Beldar> chicognu, Host is?
[06:05] <ianspersonal> linux here
[06:05] <chicognu> ubuntu 12.04
[06:06] <chicognu> ubuntu 12.04 Beldar
[06:06] <ianspersonal> ubuntu 13.10
[06:06] <Beldar> chicognu, What are the usb partitons?
[06:06] <ianspersonal> anyone here like ho,estuck
[06:06] <ianspersonal> ho,estuck
[06:06] <chicognu> Beldar, are not partitions ... it is a printer and a wireless adaptor
[06:06] <ianspersonal> homestuck^
[06:07] <chicognu> i wish to use it inside the virtual machine Beldar , but i can only do that when i start virtual box as root
[06:07] <Beldar> chicognu, Ah, if no one helps here if virtualbox they have a channel #vbox
[06:07] <chicognu> Beldar, pretty much sure it is only a permission settings
[06:08] <Beldar> chicognu, seems like you just need to run the in XP computer rightclick and link them in the standard account, just a guess though.
[06:09] <Beldar> chicognu, Could be.
[06:12] <leviathan_> I've moved my ssh access to another port number due to brute force hits. Could I then setup something up to add every IP address that tries to connect to port 22 to the hosts.deny list?
[06:12] <hashguy> yes
[06:13] <hashguy> There are lots of them - fail2ban is a popular one
[06:13] <hashguy> you could also just whitelist specific IPs you know you'll be coming in from
[06:14] <leviathan_> I think thats what I already have that installed, forgot the name, it's already banned a few ips from china.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !info denyhosts | leviathan_
[06:15] <thorsten_> hi
[06:15] <geekmasterflash> hello thorsten_
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> leviathan_: its very prudent to secure your ssh, alot of hammering these days
[06:15] <DarkAceLaptop> alot is not a word
[06:15] <thorsten_> want to get beignet work with nvidia gfx card
[06:15] <thorsten_> possible ?
[06:16] <geekmasterflash> !beignet
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> DarkAceLaptop: this is not a vocabulary game
[06:16] <geekmasterflash> thorsten_, Never heard of it.
[06:16] <thorsten_> geekmasterflash, the intel opencl driver
[06:16] <leviathan_> I don't want to go over board.. but I do need to secure my server. Right now i'm trying to limit ssh to a user group of the only to users I want having ssh access.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> !security | leviathan_
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> leviathan_: some nice tuts on that url to tighten your system
[06:18] <leviathan_> So if I want to talk security I need to move to another channel?
[06:18] <Kireji> I'm trying to change the login background on ubuntu 13.10 and I've spent 40 minutes on this
[06:18] <Kireji> Ubuntu Tweak is not like all teh screen shots
[06:18] <geekmasterflash> Kireji, What desktop enviroment do you use?
[06:18] <Kireji> I don't know
[06:18] <Kireji> unity I think
[06:18] <geekmasterflash> Kireji, Or better, what desktop manager
[06:19] <geekmasterflash> Kireji, You likely want a lightdm theme
[06:19] <Kireji> whatever the stock 13.10 intall is
[06:19] <Kireji> yes, it's lightdm
[06:19] <Kireji> I want to put my own image onto the "greeter" I think
[06:19] <Kireji> but all the instructions online have config files that are different than my stock install system
[06:19] <geekmasterflash> Kireji, http://www.maketecheasier.com/customize-lightdm-themes/
[06:20] <Kireji> yes...  that's what I've been following
[06:20] <Kireji> but Ubuntu Tweak does not look like their screenshots
[06:20] <ObrienDave> Kireji, save your picture as .face in your home directory. that works
[06:21] <geekmasterflash> ObrienDave, That will only change her user icon
[06:21] <geekmasterflash> or his*
[06:21] <Kireji> ObrienDave: not my face, I want to change the background
[06:21] <Kireji> geekmasterflash: all the screen look like those on http://www.maketecheasier.com/tweak-unity-desktop-with-unity-tweak-tool
[06:22]  * ObrienDave goes back to sleep
[06:22] <ubuntutis> i need help with advanced settings has anybody used this
[06:22] <Kireji> geekmasterflash: not teh screens on http://www.maketecheasier.com/customize-lightdm-themes
[06:22] <thorsten_> I want to get DRI2 working
[06:22] <thorsten_> with nvidia gfx card
[06:22] <Kireji> there is no "login settings", no Apps, Tweaks, Admins, JAnitor
[06:23] <Kireji> geekmasterflash: just Overview - like on http://i2.wp.com/www.maketecheasier.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/unity-tweak-tool-main-window.png
[06:24] <Kireji> what's the difference between "Ubuntu Tweak"  and "Ubuntu Tweak Tool" ?
[06:25] <Beldar> Kireji, I would be careful just using some random website to do this.
[06:26] <ubuntutis> anybody here used the advanced settingss tool
[06:29] <Beldar> ubuntutis, In the gnome-shell?
[06:30] <ubuntutis> beldar its just for my theme i found a post that was reliable but when i insert the thing in use/share/themes it just doesnt show up in advanced settings
[06:31] <ubuntutis> usr
[06:31] <Beldar> ubuntutis, In the gnome-shell? Or what desktop?
[06:32] <ubuntutis> im a newbee whats the gnome shell
[06:33] <Beldar> ubuntutis, It is the gnome 3 desktop, there is also unity which is the stock ubuntu install desktop.
[06:33] <ubuntutis> im using unity im on ubuntu 12.04
[06:33] <Beldar> ubuntutis, Not sure than I use the shell.
[06:33] <ubuntutis> whats the command
[06:34] <ieshi> ?
[06:34] <ieshi> hello,world!
[06:36] <kevin> hey guys. so my hardware clock is in eastern ('hwclock' outputs 'Wed 27 Nov 2013 01:34:51 AM EST') but when i run date, it is not in the right timezone even though it says it is ('date' outputs 'Tue Nov 26 20:35:02 EST 2013') ... can anybody help me with this? my /etc/timezone says America/New_York
[06:38] <Gumby> kevin: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata might help you
[06:43] <ulvi> cbfbcf
[06:53] <Kireji> ARRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHHGGH
[06:53] <Kireji> it doesn't fucking work
[06:53] <norat> what dosnt ?
[06:53]  * geekmasterflash shrugs
[06:53] <eg0x>  ragequit :D
[06:55] <ulvi> wut?
[06:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> .....
[06:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> well there goes the person that was helping me
[06:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> anyway
[07:00] <ulvi> quit
[07:00] <ulvi> t
[07:00] <ulvi> wrwerwe
[07:00] <ulvi> rwer
[07:00] <ulvi> werwe
[07:00] <FloodBot1> ulvi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:00] <ulvi> rwerw
[07:00] <norat> what seems to be the problem ?
[07:00] <fajfarde> Just installed xubuntu on my dell xps 15 now the question is if someone knows how to get the geforce 640m running
[07:01] <hellslinger> fajfarde: lsmod | grep nouveau
[07:01] <hellslinger> any output?
[07:01] <Kartagis> what file does `which` use? .bashrc?
[07:01] <fajfarde> no output on that command
[07:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> i installed fglrx drivers, then removed the old drivers, then rebooted, as geekmasterflash was helping my with
[07:01] <hellslinger> fajfarde: how about lsmod | grep nvidia
[07:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> i also did apt-get update and apt-get upgrade throughout the course of this
[07:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> i reboot...
[07:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> loacing screen freezes when the red dots are all filled and it stays like that
[07:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> i can't do anything
[07:02] <GuybrushThreepwo> can someone help me?
[07:02] <fajfarde> hellslinger: eighter I typet it wron the first time or I am just that kind of stupit but now I have a result vor nouveau
[07:02] <erek> GuybrushThreepwo: http://i.imgur.com/i4jgc6D.jpg
[07:03] <hellslinger> fajfarde: so the question is, what do you want ot get working?
[07:03] <fajfarde> hellslinger: if this means that the hardware is working then I am happy
[07:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> erek...showing me a gif of a cat isn't helping
[07:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> jpg*
[07:03] <fajfarde> helslinger: had to reinstall because of a driver update failure on my last installation
[07:04] <hellslinger> GuybrushThreepwo: sorry, I don't have any experience getting AMD stuff working, but you may want to try purging (not just remove) the fgrlx packages
[07:04] <hellslinger> fajfarde: it means that a driver is loaded, but it may not be the one you want. No OpenGL 3D acceleration is available for nouveau drivers
[07:04] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: you installed fglrx?
[07:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> I'm a noob when it comes to linux, I just use it casually..don't install stuff often
[07:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> yes ari-yang i did
[07:05] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I advised you to not install it :/
[07:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> geekmasterflash was helping me via pm
[07:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> and he just left
[07:05] <fajfarde> hellslinger: this is the office laptop so there will be no games eighterway. I am hapy for now and will leave it as it is
[07:05] <hellslinger> fajfarde: if you want your full 3D acceleration and don't have a problem running the nvidia binary blob, you can do apt-get install nvidia-current
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I don't care who was helping you, I advised you to not install fglrx because it could mess up your system.
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: you took the risk and installed it... nothing you can do
[07:06] <fajfarde> hellslinger: will do that when the time emerges. For now I am happy with the installation.
[07:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> there's absolutely nothing i can do??
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: uninstall fglrx and then install the radeon open source driver
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> hopefully that will help
[07:06] <fajfarde> hellslinger: Thanks for the quick help :)
[07:06] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: afk, good luck
[07:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> ...
[07:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> you could at least tell me HOW to do that
[07:07] <hellslinger> fajfarde: you're welcome. power management could be an issue, make sure your video card fan isn't running full speed before you decide to stick withit
[07:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> since if i am at command prompt i wont be here talking to anyone
[07:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> i can't be here and there at the same time
[07:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok, can anyone else advise me on what to do, since that guy went AFK
[07:10] <fajfarde> hellsinger: it is a mobile card and according to the internal heat sensors we are happy at 56°C with no fan activation. So untill that becomes a problem I will leave it as is
[07:16] <MHQ-Johnny> I'm trying to install ubuntu on a CentOS KVM Hypervisor (the server itself is headless), I'm trying to use the --location switch, but I'm not 100% cure on what URL I should be using.
[07:18] <nafg_> Why am I getting "The authenticity of host... could not be established" etc. when I prepulated known_hosts via ssh-keyscan?
[07:20] <leviathan_> I'm really confused about setting up a FTP FTPS server. The default server uses the system users for login accounts starting at their home directories. How do I go about making FTP ONLY accounts that do not have ssh or desktop login access?
[07:21] <leviathan_> I need a setup a lot like Filezilla Server.
[07:22] <hashguy> what would be the point of an "FTP ONLY" account?
[07:22] <hashguy> isn't that what megaupload and stuff like that replcaed?
[07:25] <ab`> why does transmission download from bottom of the queue? (2.82 on ubuntu 13.10)
[07:28] <leviathan_> I don't trust cloud file storage. Most "own" what you upload in the user agreement. (Google Drive.) You also have to pay for extra storage. Your own server your limited to your own hdd free space.
[07:29] <shrini> leviathan_: in /etc/passwd file
[07:29] <shrini> leviathan_: make the home directory as /bin/false
[07:29] <jmgk> hi shrini
[07:29] <geirha> leviathan_: It depends on the ftp server software, they all do it differently. Consult the documentation to figure out how to configure it to behave like you want it to.
[07:30] <shrini> leviathan_: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/16168/how-can-i-create-users-with-only-remote-ftp-access-on-linux-server
[07:30] <shrini> leviathan_: http://serverfault.com/questions/253069/vsftpd-only-ftp-access-for-local-user
[07:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> installed the wrong driver again aparently
[07:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> it no longer freezes at loading screen but turns completely black
[07:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> i don't know what to install
[07:35] <lordcrusader> requesting for clean step for installing lamp-server in my ubuntu desktop 13.10 ?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | lordcrusader
[07:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> I followed the instructions here:
[07:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159586/how-to-install-radeon-open-source-driver
[07:36] <lordcrusader> i have tried installing lamp using tasksel but i am unable to run cakephp framework in my server  due to mod-security module .even i enabled but it does not works?
[07:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> my card is a radeon like 7700 G
[07:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> It might not be "HD"
[07:37] <GuybrushThreepwo> would that be something else?
[07:37] <GuybrushThreepwo> screen turns black now
[07:37] <wafflejock> lordcrusader: you restart the server after enabling the module
[07:38] <lordcrusader> wafflejock ya i restarted but it does not help
[07:38] <helmut_> hi
[07:39] <lordcrusader> wafflejock : then i installed xampp there every thing works fine ... but need to stick up with lamp
[07:39] <shrini> jmgk: hai
[07:40] <ola2> apt problem
[07:40] <shrini> jmgk: hai jmgk
[07:40] <ola2> unmet dependencies
[07:40] <Guest36361> hello i have problem with default sound jack.But in windows i put speaker in Line IN and real tek dialogue appears and i select head phone to make speaker working but now on ubuntu linux i have problem doing the same.can you help me how to make Line in to use as speaker
[07:40] <wafflejock> lordcrusader: php -m
[07:40] <ola2> how to solve
[07:40] <jmgk> hiya
[07:40] <wafflejock> lordcrusader: shows loaded modules not sure what else to tell ya really
[07:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> is anyone willing to help me get my ubuntu working again?
[07:40] <wafflejock> lordcrusader: https://library.linode.com/web-servers/apache/mod-security
[07:40] <ola2> ubuntu apt problem
[07:40] <ola2> unmet dependencies
[07:40] <ola2> plz help
[07:41] <shrini> ola2: what error you get?
[07:41] <lordcrusader> wafflejock ya thanks .. currently i uninstalled everything .. need to do fresh installation .. so only requested for a guides
[07:41] <ola2> w3af-console : Depends: python-pypdf but it is not going to be installed                 Depends: python-pysqlite2 but it is not going to be installed
[07:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> i've already described my problem a few times, i don't want to keep repeating myself if no one is able and willing to help, but i'm having trouble with ubuntu not loading after graphics driver installation
[07:42] <wafflejock> !xorg | GuybrushThreepwo
[07:42] <wafflejock> !ati | GuybrushThreepwo
[07:42] <wafflejock> GuybrushThreepwo: I don't have ATI so what the bot says is all I know
[07:42] <ola2> plz help to correct apt-get
[07:42] <shrini> ola2: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:43] <ola2> shrini i have used that
[07:43] <ola2> but nothings happening same error comes again
[07:43] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I'm back....
[07:43] <wafflejock> ola2: does it list any other packages that are trying to be installed
[07:44] <wafflejock> ola2: pastebin your output will probably help more
[07:44] <Payton> Finally! I have ubuntu :)
[07:44] <ola2> ok sir
[07:44] <ola2> just a minute
[07:44] <wafflejock> !yay | Payton
[07:44] <Payton> woo ubottu wafflejock
[07:44] <Payton> :)
[07:44] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[07:44] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[07:45] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:45] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[07:45] <shrini> ola2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186190
[07:45] <ola2> http://pastebin.com/7vz9jnrU
[07:45] <ola2> wafflejock:http://pastebin.com/7vz9jnrU
[07:45] <wafflejock> !alsa > Guest36361
[07:46] <GuybrushThreepwo> Okay. You saw that I said I installed xserver-xorg-video-ati earlier, right? But I will type those lines.
[07:46] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I don't care
[07:46] <Ari-Yang> try those commands
[07:47] <leviathan_> Is there a way to trigger an audio file to play on the computers default sound device from ssh/terminal? My computer doesn't have a buzzer on the MB and getting beep to work seems to much work.
[07:47] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: also run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[07:47] <Ari-Yang> and then reboot
[07:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> Need to write these down, then I'll try it.
[07:48] <Ari-Yang> ;/
[07:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> I need to reboot into ubuntu command line each time
[07:48] <GuybrushThreepwo> only 1 pc
[07:48] <ola2> wafflejock:http://pastebin.com/7vz9jnrU
[07:49] <wafflejock> leviathan_: aplay
[07:50] <lordcrusader> leviathan : check this link http://kmandla.wikispaces.com/search/view/music
[07:51] <wafflejock> !info alsa-utils | leviathan_
[07:52] <wafflejock> !info mpg123 >  leviathan_
[07:52] <Beldar> ola2, Are you using a rooted terminal?
[07:52] <wafflejock> !info mpg123 | leviathan_
[07:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: so just to confirm, I am tp type, in order:
[07:53] <leviathan_> What does !anyword mean?
[07:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: sudo apt-get remove --purge fgltx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle*
[07:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[07:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: install xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[07:54] <wafflejock> leviathan_: I'm just promting the IRC bots to spit out responses to you
[07:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ari-Yang: install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[07:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> look ok?
[07:55] <wafflejock> !bot > leviathan_
[07:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> er
[07:55] <Ari-Yang> yes, make sure you ofc run the install with apt-get
[07:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> i just didn't ocpy it down each time but yeah
[07:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok thanks
[07:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> hope it works...brb
[07:55] <Ari-Yang> good luck
[08:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> Same problems
[08:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> display turns off at loading screen
[08:09] <leviathan_> http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/ Is pretty much what I want but is it safe?
[08:10] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I don't know :/
[08:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there a way to get my OLD drivers back?
[08:10] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: maybe do a fresh install?
[08:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> I don't want to
[08:11] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have things on there I don't want to lose
[08:11] <Ari-Yang> you could backup
[08:11] <Ari-Yang> but it will all be done via command line
[08:11]  * Ari-Yang sighs
[08:11] <Ari-Yang> you shouldn't have installed fglrx :|
[08:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> I know
[08:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> but if it's purged, why would it be affecting it now?
[08:12] <nafg_> how do you disable automatic screen turn off / suspend *from a script*?
[08:12] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: cuz fglrx can do that
[08:12] <Ari-Yang> it trolls
[08:13] <grimeton> GuybrushThreepwo: is it still loaded in the kernel?
[08:13]  * GuybrushThreepwo blinks
[08:13] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: I think you could try and run sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[08:13] <chris901> does anyone here know anything about OZ Unity Diamond 2?
[08:13] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: sudo rm -rf /etc/ati
[08:14] <Ari-Yang> those two commands, then reboot, GuybrushThreepwo
[08:15] <bazhang> chris901, is that hardware?
[08:15] <GuybrushThreepwo> I'll try it.
[08:15] <chris901> no
[08:15] <chris901> it's a Ubuntu clone
[08:15] <bazhang> chris901, whats the exact issue, please give more info
[08:15] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: also...
[08:16] <chris901> no internet connection
[08:16] <chris901> I tried to do it manually, I am not a administator
[08:16] <bazhang> chris901, thats not supported here, check their homepage or use alis to search for a support channel
[08:16] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: after you reboot, and lets stay you still boot into command prompt, run dmesg | pastebinit then write down the link so when you join you can link us
[08:17] <bazhang> !alis | chris901
[08:17] <chris901> thanks.....
[08:17] <chris901> what distros are you using?
[08:17] <chris901> I guess Windows has spoiled me
[08:18] <chris901> it is a lot more fun doing things manually
[08:18] <bazhang> chris901, this is official Ubuntu support, so all the supported flavors; such as kubuntu xubuntu lubuntu ubuntu
[08:18] <chris901> why are there  so many distros?
[08:19] <Ari-Yang> chris901: it's all ubuntu with different DEs
[08:19] <chris901> will I have to compile my own distro to get exactly what I want?
[08:19] <Ari-Yang> DE = desktop environment
[08:19] <bazhang> different DEs   kde4, xfce4 lxde, gnome
[08:19] <Ari-Yang> chris901: like, you'd use xubuntu or lubuntu if you want a "light weight ubuntu"
[08:19] <bazhang> no compiling ever necessary
[08:20] <chris901> I really like Oz Unity...
[08:20] <Ari-Yang> chris901: otherwise, just install ubuntu and then install whatever desktop environement you want
[08:20] <bazhang> so use it
[08:20] <Ari-Yang> * environment
[08:20] <bazhang> but it's not supported here, so please dont ask for support here
[08:20] <chris901> just no internet connection
[08:21] <chris901> I am on my own here...
[08:21] <chris901> It
[08:21] <chris901> being here is like getting lost on the other side of town
[08:21] <chris901> what about Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[08:22] <bazhang> !flavors | chris901
[08:23] <chris901> how am I going to make any money here if these systems are fragmented?
[08:24] <Ari-Yang> chris901: what do you mean by "make any money here"
[08:24] <molly_> hey, anyone had an issue with installing the ubuntu on windows? -getting an error that it could not retrieve the required disk image
[08:24] <leviathan_> Man vsftpd is a pain to figure out the best way to setup. Guides are two short or unclear and you are left still confused or it's a full manual/wiki and you have no clue were to begin/overwhelm.
[08:26] <chris901> I spend a lot of time testing these systems...
[08:26] <chris901> time is monehy..
[08:27] <chris901> are there any programmers here?
[08:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> Yeah ..... no
[08:28] <chris901> so, just a room full of script kiddies?
[08:28] <Ari-Yang> [03:16:56] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: after you reboot, and lets stay you still boot into command prompt, run dmesg | pastebinit then write down the link so when you join you can link us
[08:28] <bazhang> !ot | chris901
[08:28] <Ari-Yang> GuybrushThreepwo: anyway, I'm off. Good luck.
[08:29] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok, thanks, i'll go do that...hope someone else can help me
[08:32] <ubuntu_or_arch> hi Why is Ubuntu call a spyware by RMS?
[08:32] <ubuntu_or_arch> I love Ubuntu .. Jus not unity DE
[08:34] <Guest67075> join #bitcoin
[08:36] <vlad_starkov> Question: While installing Ubuntu, there is a step for installing additional software. In case I choose "Manual package selection" the aptitude will be launched. Is it possible to add repositories for aptitude to install some additional software?
[08:37] <kenetik_> vlad_starkov: I'm not positive, but I don't think you can during the install, however you can once it's complete.
[08:38] <vlad_starkov> Once it complete the system will reboot. Isn't it?
[08:38] <ObrienDave> yes
[08:39] <vlad_starkov> But I need to install intel-microcode and microcode.ctl packages BEFORE the system will go for reboot
[08:39] <vlad_starkov> these packages are not available from aptitude by default
[08:40] <ObrienDave> why do you need to do that before reboot?
[08:40] <ab`> \j #emacs
[08:40] <vlad_starkov> Because after reboot the system won't boot due to the "bug soft lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 22s" error messages.
[08:41] <ObrienDave> o i c
[08:41] <vlad_starkov> I found that installing these packages will prevent system to fail
[08:42] <kenetik_> There's got to be an additional string you can add at the grub boot to prevent that error.
[08:42] <vlad_starkov> kenetik_: glad to know which one
[08:42] <ubuntu_or_arch> ari_yang y do you recommend not to use FGLRX
[08:44] <kenetik_> When you boot to grub, press ' e ' and add ' noapic
[08:44] <kenetik_> see if thatll get you in without the error
[08:45] <vlad_starkov> kenetik_: I'll try and come back
[08:45] <vlad_starkov> kenetik_: thanks
[08:45] <kenetik_> vlad_starkov: no promises
[08:45] <kenetik_> lemme know though
[08:45] <vlad_starkov> sure
[08:45] <makara> any news on Rhythmbox metadata bug being fixed?
[08:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> Ok back
[08:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[08:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> Anyone that was helping me still around
[08:48] <kenetik_> =/
[08:51] <GuybrushThreepwo> If anyone new is interested in helping since the other guy had to go:
[08:52] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have an ATO Radeon 7700 something G graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help.
[08:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon
[08:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely
[08:53] <ubuntu_or_arch> fglrx vs gallium vs mesa
[08:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> Any suggestions for me other than clean install?
[08:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> 12.04 LTS 64bit
[08:55] <ubuntu_or_arch> upgrade to 3.12.1 kernel
[08:55] <ubuntu_or_arch> and it would be fine then
[08:55] <priscilla> ciao
[08:55] <GuybrushThreepwo> that's to me?
[08:56] <ubuntu_or_arch> ya
[08:56] <GuybrushThreepwo> how do i upgrade kernel again?
[08:56] <ubuntu_or_arch> download it from ubuntu
[08:56] <GuybrushThreepwo> or not
[08:56] <GuybrushThreepwo> i have to do it from the command line
[08:56] <ubuntu_or_arch> Wait
[08:57] <ubuntu_or_arch> Google "ubuntu kernel update 3.12.1
[08:57] <ubuntu_or_arch> and you would find the right page
[08:58] <legath> make-kpkg more linux way
[08:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> So it's a kernel issue and not a driver issue
[08:59] <GuybrushThreepwo> ?
[09:01] <GuybrushThreepwo> ubuntu_or_arch: so it's a kernel issue and not a driver issue?
[09:02] <ubuntu_or_arch> most likely
[09:03] <ubuntu_or_arch> 12.04 work for less people
[09:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> default drivers work fine
[09:03] <ubuntu_or_arch> if you want stable goto Debian
[09:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> but i want to run
[09:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> pcdx2
[09:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> er
[09:03] <GuybrushThreepwo> pcsx2
[09:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> and that requires an actual driver
[09:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> but now im more concerned with me getting my ubuntu working at all
[09:04] <GuybrushThreepwo> since its not working since i tried to update driver
[09:05] <ubuntu_or_arch> oh
[09:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/11/install-upgrade-kernel-3-121-ubuntu-linuxmint/ <- so I just need to type those 4 lines?
[09:05] <ubuntu_or_arch> Gimme a link
[09:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> link to?
[09:05] <ubuntu_or_arch> What do you actually want to do
[09:05] <ubuntu_or_arch> and why
[09:05] <GuybrushThreepwo> install a graphics driver for my card
[09:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> which i tried to do
[09:06] <GuybrushThreepwo> but now my ubuntu dont load
[09:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> the softward i am trying to run was a playstation 2 emulator. the default graphics card didnt support everything it needed to, so it gave errors
[09:07] <GuybrushThreepwo> for ATI radeon 7700 something G
[09:07] <ubuntu_or_arch> oh
[09:07] <ubuntu_or_arch> it is ok
[09:07] <ubuntu_or_arch> Change to the previous kernel
[09:07] <nafg_> Will the desktop start while upstart scripts are still running?
[09:08] <GuybrushThreepwo> i haven't done anything to my kernel at all
[09:08] <ubuntu_or_arch> When you boot press SHIFT key
[09:08] <ubuntu_or_arch> okay
[09:08] <ubuntu_or_arch> PS2 ..
[09:08] <ubuntu_or_arch> Which ATI driver do you use?
[09:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> I pasted that a second ago
[09:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> let me scroll up
[09:09] <Calinou> ATI is dead, you mean AMD
[09:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> ok, AMD then
[09:09] <Wiz_KeeD> How do I few all proccesses running on port 80?
[09:09] <Calinou> GuybrushThreepwo, there is no "radeon 7700G"
[09:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> I don't remember the exact number.....
[09:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> It was in 7700s
[09:09] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
 and that requires an actual driver
[09:10] <Calinou> there IS an actual driver installed by default
[09:10] <Calinou> GuybrushThreepwo, lspci | grep VGA
[09:10] <Calinou> do that in a terminal
[09:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> Each time you guys want me to do anyting in a terminal
[09:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> I need to reboot into ubuntu in recovery mode, and then reboot back into windows
[09:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> fyi
[09:11] <Rory> GuybrushThreepwo: Do you not have access to another device to IRC on? a phone?
[09:11] <GuybrushThreepwo> mmm
[09:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> my other laptop has hardware issues and I can't count on it. hard drive problems or something
[09:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> So I can go reboot. But what do you want me to do? I was told to run dmesg by the other guy, so I did and here's that:
[09:13] <GuybrushThreepwo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[09:14] <Togusa_> GuybrushThreepwo!
[09:15] <GuybrushThreepwo> Togusa!
[09:15] <Togusa> GUYBRUSH!
[09:16] <ManDrakis> shesh
[09:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just want my ubuntu working again in visual mode without me having to back up everything i want to keep
[09:19] <nafg_> How can I write a startup script that will finish before the desktop environment greeter?
[09:19] <foo357> Hello, I have a Ubuntu 12.04 (Server edition) machine that I want to create a disk image of. There's only one disk and it's  partitioned like this: http://pastebin.com/U8at82BE
[09:19] <lordcrusader> installed lamp using tasksel and i need to rewrite module for htaccess  file. so followed this steps http://askubuntu.com/questions/48362/how-to-enable-mod-rewrite-in-apache as in the answer steps. but in which i cannot find a file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[09:20] <Rory> lordcrusader: Are there any files in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ ?
[09:20] <foo357> The disk is encrypted as extensively as possible (using the installer wizard)
[09:21] <lordcrusader> but instead i have two files name called 000.default.conf and default-ssl.conf
[09:21] <foo357> I thought about using 'partimage' but it doesn't support ext4, so I guess I have to find another tool
[09:21] <Rory> lordcrusader: use 000=-default.conf
[09:21] <GuybrushThreepwo>  I have an AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help. They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon. since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely
[09:22] <GuybrushThreepwo> One guy told me to use dmesg. Here's that result when using the command prompt from failsafe graphics mode in recovery: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[09:22] <lordcrusader> rory in that i never find line like this  <Directory /var/www/>
[09:22] <lordcrusader>             Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
[09:22] <lordcrusader>             # changed from None to FileInfo
[09:22] <lordcrusader>             AllowOverride FileInfo
[09:22] <lordcrusader>             Order allow,deny
[09:22] <FloodBot1> lordcrusader: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:22] <lordcrusader>             allow from all
[09:23] <DF3D2> is there anyway to stop rsync from re-downloading files it has alrdy downloaded, trying to setup a couple scripts to do somethingbut running in to a loop
[09:23] <Sh1G3rU> lol enter as punctuation
[09:23] <Rory> lordcrusader: please ask the #httpd channel for help configuring Apache web server
[09:23] <vasile_> hi all
[09:23] <Rory> DF3D2: That is the default behaviour for rsync I believe
[09:23] <vasile_> i have a question
[09:24] <aaronmehar> Hello Ubuntu people
[09:24] <DF3D2> Rory: yeah, what I meant is the files are archives and they are being downloaded and extracted automatically, then the archives are deleted. I don't want them re-downloaded
[09:24] <ManDrakis> we arent people we are better then that
[09:24] <lordcrusader> rory thanks but i found default setting http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483396/
[09:25] <Rory> DF3D2: Can you give me an example, it's too early...
[09:25] <Sh1G3rU> lol ManDrakis
[09:25] <Sh1G3rU> we are drones
[09:25] <vasile_> i think my nvidia card is not suported very well or my monitor because sometimes the pc freezes and on the screen only white and black lines what to do to corect the problem
[09:25] <Sh1G3rU> :P
[09:25] <DF3D2> Rory: uhm I just did
[09:25] <aaronmehar> Hello Ubuntu Geeks / Lords /  Wizards / Gods??
[09:25] <aaronmehar> better? :)
[09:25] <vasile_> maybe is the monitor because sometimes it wont stay at 1280x1024
[09:25] <Sh1G3rU> aaronmehar, nope i am a drone
[09:26] <aaronmehar> a drone? cool... are you running ubuntu to operate?
[09:26] <Sh1G3rU> yes
[09:26] <GuybrushThreepwo>  I have an AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help. They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon. since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely
[09:26] <GuybrushThreepwo> One guy told me to use dmesg. Here's that result when using the command prompt from failsafe graphics mode in recovery: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[09:27] <aaronmehar> Sh1G3rU: Sweet!
[09:27] <ManDrakis> im a troll
[09:27] <VlanX> hello, a suggestion guys... what is the lightest version of ubuntu i can find? I have a 1.6 atom ghz to power up
[09:28] <buu> Ok, what obvious thing am I missing here: I'm attempting to do: ssh -R0.0.0.0:333:internal-machine:333 user@remotemachine
[09:28] <DJones> !lubuntu | VlanX
[09:28] <DJones> VlanX: I would look at either Lubuntu or Xubuntu for a low spec machine
[09:28] <VlanX> DJones: can i install it w/ unetbootin?
[09:29] <aaronmehar> VlanX: lubuntu
[09:29] <aaronmehar> VlanX: yeah.. what OS are you using now?
[09:29] <aaronmehar> I like to dd my ISO files to a mem stick
[09:29] <DJones> VlanX: I've never used unetbootin, but I would assume so, all it is is Ubuntu with LXDE rather than Unity
[09:29] <Sh1G3rU> GuybrushThreepwo, are you in a shell?
[09:29]  * ObrienDave always votes for Xubuntu
[09:30] <VlanX> aaronmehar: on this pc? ubuntu 12.10
[09:30] <VlanX> I hope wine will work in lubuntu
[09:30] <GuybrushThreepwo> Sh1G3rU: I can only load into command prompt
[09:30] <aaronmehar> then " sudo dd if=myiso.iso of=/dev/memstick bs=1M"
[09:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> if i choose failsafe graphics mode in recovery, then try to run, it's the only way i can see to go into command prompt
[09:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> otherwise, i'd like to be loading into the default GUI that comes with ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> except it doesn't load
[09:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> or it does but with no display. can't tell
[09:39] <GuybrushThreepwo>  I have an AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help. They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon. since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely
[09:39] <GuybrushThreepwo> One guy told me to use dmesg. Here's that result when using the command prompt from failsafe graphics mode in recovery: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[09:39] <Rory> !patience
[09:40] <aaronmehar> Linux_Is_Free: Linux is not free.. its open source :D
[09:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> Re-asking 13 minutes later is being impatient?
[09:40] <Rory> !gpl > aaronmehar
[09:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> I thought maybe the wall ov users that joined above might know.
[09:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> of*
[09:41] <stevecam> has anyone had any success with electricsheep in ubuntu?
[09:44] <aaronmehar> Rory: I believe Ubuntu is free, Linux is Open source
[09:46] <fizk_> Hi, I'm trying to configure dhcpd to set the root-path based on MAC address
[09:47] <ManDrakis> fizk_: MAC adresses are easelly spoofed
[09:47] <fizk_> ManDrakis: that's ok, this is in a private lab
[09:48] <fizk_> everything i've tried has failed to make the match, does anyone know how to do this?
[09:48] <Payton> fizk_: do what?
[09:48] <Rory> aaronmehar: You're wrong and #ubuntu-offtopic will tell you why
[09:48] <fizk_> Payton: I'm trying to configure dhcpd to set the root-path based on MAC address
[09:48] <sandman13> why this error occurs? Error:- Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[09:49] <sandman13> while formatting USB disk
[09:49] <Payton> fizk_: Yes, but what is your problem?
[09:49] <fizk_> Payton: it's simply not matching
[09:50] <fizk_> if dhcpd found the match, it would set the root-path and my server would boot via iscsi
[09:51] <Payton> fizk_: Sorry i'm not good with protocal stuff
[09:51] <Payton> fizk_: :/
[09:51] <fizk_> np
[09:51] <fizk_> it's kind of frustrating that such a simple thing isn't working for me :|
[09:53] <lokowes> opa bom dia
[09:59] <fizk_> christ, finally got it:  if substring(hardware, 1, 6) = ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff { ... }
[10:02] <sandman13> how to create a live usb disk in ubuntu to try ubuntu?
[10:03] <DJones> !usb | sandman13 This link should help you create a live USB,
[10:05] <sandman13> DJones, thanks
[10:09] <GuybrushThreepwo> Possible to access ubuntu files from windows?
[10:10] <GuybrushThreepwo> (windows 8)
[10:11] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: Ubuntu should be able to access NTFS partitions natively
[10:11] <GuybrushThreepwo> other way around
[10:12] <apatters> Anyone use cmus?
[10:12] <GuybrushThreepwo> i want to accessfiles from my unloadable ubuntu partition using win8
[10:12] <Sh1G3rU> GuybrushThreepwo, install ext2read on windows
[10:13] <Na3iL> hey all I'm runnig ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop , I want to back to ubuntu 12.04 , if I install ubuntu 12.04 I'll not lost my docs ?
[10:13] <Beldar> apatters, state the actual issue to the channel for help.
[10:13] <Beldar> Na3iL, You have a separate home?
[10:13] <Sh1G3rU> Na3iL, backup your files and do a fresh install
[10:14] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: www.ext2fsd.com
[10:14] <Na3iL> Bledar, I have a separate home yup
[10:14] <aaronmehar>  GuybrushThreepwo: I havent used it for about a year so its down to you
[10:14] <apatters> Does anyone know how to make a single track repeat using cmus?
[10:14] <Beldar> Na3iL, You can reinstall 12.04 and have all that is in that home
[10:14] <Na3iL> Sh1G3rU ok ty guys :)
[10:14] <Sh1G3rU> ur welcome
[10:15] <Beldar> Na3iL,Never hurts to be backed though.
[10:15] <Beldar> backed up*
[10:15] <Na3iL> ty man :)
[10:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> what if it's not an "ext" partition?
[10:16] <aaronmehar> what is it?
[10:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> let me check
[10:16] <aaronmehar> I assumed it was ext
[10:16] <ubuntu544> Salut les gens
[10:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just selected, "install alongside windows"...
[10:17] <Sh1G3rU> GuybrushThreepwo, ext2/3/4 journal file systems are default on linux
[10:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> where there was an empty spot
[10:17] <sam113101> !fr | ubuntu544
[10:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> it seems to say "raw"
[10:17] <ubuntu544> sorry sam113101
[10:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> well windows calls it raw
[10:17] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: you are reading what from windows? it would as windows doesnt know what it is
[10:18] <ubuntu544> sam113101: by the way I get an error code 10 with ubi-partman while trying to install LTS version
[10:18] <Sh1G3rU> GuybrushThreepwo, windows doesnt recognise anything else apart fat and ntfs so it calls everything else raw
[10:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> aaronmehar: I want to know if theres any way I can access my ubuntu partition files from inside windows.
[10:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> >_>
[10:18] <aaronmehar> look at the link I gave
[10:18] <ubuntu544> It doesn't create any partition at all and i'm unable to get Ubuntu installed
[10:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> ext2explore doesn't show anything
[10:18] <Beldar> GuybrushThreepwo, Using a shared ntfs partition is the most modern answer
[10:18] <MasterOfDisaster> GuybrushThreepwo: as others said, use ext2fsd.
[10:19] <ubuntu544> I tried addin nodmraid without any succes
[10:19] <Sh1G3rU> GuybrushThreepwo,  there is a program for windows called ext2read (ext to read) you can read ext ufs hsfs file systems with that
[10:19] <Sh1G3rU> from windows
[10:19] <aaronmehar> yeah, NTFS is windows native and ubuntu now I think... or its easy to install ntfs-3g
[10:19] <Sh1G3rU> and it is a freeware
[10:20] <Beldar> GuybrushThreepwo, I would not bother with ext2read it is old and not really suggested, not sure why its being pushed here.
[10:20] <Sh1G3rU> aaronmehar, *NIX-es are universal and recognise everything
[10:21] <aaronmehar> Sh1G3rU: now maybe, yes.
[10:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> says it can't be used for NT or later...
[10:21] <GuybrushThreepwo> but running in compatibility mode seems to allow it
[10:22] <GuybrushThreepwo> Beldar: What's your suggestion?
[10:23] <Beldar> GuybrushThreepwo, An extra ntfs partition that bothe windows and ubuntu can use to store what you need to share.
[10:23] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: What version are you using?
[10:23] <aaronmehar> of windows
[10:23] <GuybrushThreepwo> Beldar: I need to access the files I have on my existing partition
[10:23] <GuybrushThreepwo> windows 8
[10:24] <Beldar> GuybrushThreepwo, Like?
[10:24] <GuybrushThreepwo> I just want to copy the stuff over from there that i want to keep cause i probably need to clean install.
[10:24] <Beldar> GuybrushThreepwo, like?
[10:25] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: any good? I have used Windows since Vista. Use the www.ext2fsd.com program to access ext
[10:25] <aaronmehar> then get a small secondary drive/partition format as NTFS and share in the goodness
[10:26] <aaronmehar> or get rid of Windows?
[10:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> aaronmehar:, yeah, I'm going to get rid of windows, when I can't even update a stupid graphics driver without ubuntu crashing beyond repair
[10:28] <GuybrushThreepwo> What exactly am I supposed to do with this program?
[10:29] <aaronmehar> GuybrushThreepwo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnly7XEda8
[10:30] <Zorky> How would i make ufw block everything. but allow everything from a certain ip?
[10:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> So I select permanent?
[10:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> But now that letter doesnt appear in fila mgr
[10:31] <GuybrushThreepwo> G appeared before, but asked if i wanted to format. i said no
[10:32] <aaronmehar> like I said before, I havent used it since Vista but I remember the program asked if I wasnt accessing it temp I said yes and when I exited the program I got access from Windows again
[10:33] <Stephenx7> Hi there, I have a big Problem with ubuntu and .desktop files. I  need to associate a custom software (not installed through apt-get or softwarecenter) with a fileEXTENSION (not a filetype!!) I have been googleing for some time now, used ubuntu-tweak and what not, it's not working.
[10:33] <Stephenx7> Can someone please help??
[10:34] <GuybrushThreepwo> there we go
[10:35] <GuybrushThreepwo> nice
[10:35] <ObrienDave> well, the extension usually defines the filetype so I would say right-click, "open with other application" and select the one you want
[10:35] <Stephenx7> but the one I want is just an executable somewhere on the disk, it does not show up there
[10:36] <llutz> fileextensions are useless, just part of a filename, only used for "humans". filemanagers use filetypes by default
[10:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> Now the other issue is
[10:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> I screwed up my graphics driver and it won't load now
[10:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> the display turns off as ubuntu is loading
[10:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> and that's no good to me
[10:37] <GuybrushThreepwo> I would prefer not to have to reinstall over that but...
[10:38] <ActionPa1snip> GuybrushThreepwo: does the login screen eventually show?
[10:38] <GuybrushThreepwo> ActionPa1snip: no
[10:38] <MasterOfDisaster> GuybrushThreepwo: did you mess with grub options for a pretty boot screen?
[10:38] <ActionPa1snip> GuybrushThreepwo: what GPU(s) do you use?
[10:38] <Stephenx7> @llutz: Yes, that's the problem. I have a .bibtext file but the filemanager only sees plain/text, I want to make zotero open it by default
[10:38] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have an AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help. They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon. since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely.  One guy told me to use dmesg. Here's that result when using the comman
[10:39] <GuybrushThreepwo> after choosing failsafe graphics mode in recovery, then choosing run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/
[10:39] <ActionPa1snip> GuybrushThreepwo: does the system have a make and model?
[10:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> It's an HP envy dv6
[10:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> Let me look up more specifics
[10:40] <GuybrushThreepwo> HP ENVY dv6-7229wm
[10:41] <GuybrushThreepwo> It worked fine until I tried to update my graphics driver.
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> GuybrushThreepwo: seems to be an OPtimus thing (Intel and Nvidia) :(
[10:41] <ActionPa1snip> GuybrushThreepwo: what method did you use to try and upgrade the driver?
[10:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> first add repository that has fglrx
[10:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> apt-get update then upgrade then install
[10:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> then removed the old one
[10:42] <GuybrushThreepwo> after that failed..
[10:43] <GuybrushThreepwo> they had me purge fglrx and install xserver-xorg-video-ati and -radeon
[10:43] <GuybrushThreepwo> then after that failed they had me move to backup xord.conf and then remove the /etc/ati folder
[10:43] <GuybrushThreepwo> and didnt help
[10:44] <Calinou> ActionPa1snip, it's called Enduro
[10:44] <GuybrushThreepwo> and, well, basically i have no idea what to do at this point so unless someone can tell me i have no choice but to clean install but i really don't want to have to clean install every time i want to update a driver
[10:44] <Calinou> for AMD cards
[10:47] <aaronmehar> is there an apache channel?
[10:47] <LjL> aaronmehar: #httpd
[10:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> ./join #apache would be the first thing i'd think of trying
[10:47] <GuybrushThreepwo> it links you to #httpd
[10:48] <aaronmehar> Cheers guys.. easier to click and join than search :D
[10:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> I didn't search either >_>
[10:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> Does anyone else have any ideas for me?
[10:49] <GuybrushThreepwo> I'd love to hear them but must sleep
[10:49] <aaronmehar> #apache doesnt exist :(
[10:49] <aaronmehar> #httpd does :)
[10:50] <GuybrushThreepwo> try leaving #httpd and then joining #apache
[10:50] <aaronmehar> #httpd :Cannot send to channel
[10:50] <aaronmehar> I am now very sad
[10:51] <Beldar> !register | aaronmehar
[10:51] <Beldar> aaronmehar, Some channels require you to be registered with freenode
[10:52] <aaronmehar> cool.... Ive never really used IRC that much until I started at my hosting company so bare with me.. Ive been supporting CentOs for years
[10:53] <cfhowlett> bear/bare/bayer
[10:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> well thanks for your guys help with ext2 volume manager
[10:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> even though i guess my partition is screwed
[10:53] <GuybrushThreepwo> is there any way to get a decent driver for gaming on my laptop?
[10:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> the default one doesn't really cut it
[10:56] <dragon7> I am going to boot Ubuntu 13.10 in my 500gb hard disk but I have stuck at the stage where you have to partition the hard disk. Here's what I have done till now:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483741/
[10:56] <dragon7> please help me further
[10:56] <dragon7> I am going to boot Ubuntu 13.10 in my 500gb hard disk but I have stuck at the stage where you have to partition the hard disk. Here's what I have done till now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483741/
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !patience|dragon7,
[10:57] <dragon7> cfhowlett: sorry for that
[10:58] <cfhowlett> no worries
[10:59] <cfhowlett> dragon7, so now it's time to partition ...
[10:59] <dragon7> guide me cfhowlett
[10:59] <cfhowlett> details  ... dual boot?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> single HDD
[11:00] <dragon7> nope cfhowlett
[11:00] <dragon7> yes single HDD
[11:00] <Potato81> hola
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !es|Potato81,
[11:00] <cfhowlett> dragon7, are you dual booting with windows?
[11:01] <dragon7> no cfhowlett
[11:01] <cfhowlett> dragon7, so install ubuntu.  easy.  personally, I do the install first and download updates later.
[11:02] <hex20dec> Hey people, when I try to apt-get install firmware-b43-installer I get: coudn't find package firmware-b43-installer. Am I missing a repository or??
[11:02] <hex20dec> Running 10.04
[11:02] <dragon7> cfhowlett what about installing third party software
[11:02] <cfhowlett> hex20dec, end of life there so no longer supported.  upgrade to 12.04
[11:03] <hex20dec> cfhowlett: Okay
[11:03] <hex20dec> Thanks
[11:03] <cfhowlett> dragon7, that'll be your .mp3 codecs and such.  again, get the install done and then sudo apt-get ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:03] <Rory> mn210iabc
[11:04] <Rory> HA
[11:04] <Rory> fml
[11:04] <cfhowlett> y
[11:04] <dragon7> cfhowlett: now i am at partioning stage
[11:04] <Rory> remember that middle-click-paste thing I was talking about yesterday cfhowlett ?
[11:04] <SaulMecanus> eyyy
[11:04] <Rory> cfhowlett: It bit me
[11:05] <cfhowlett> Rory, ow
[11:05] <cfhowlett> dragon7, let ubuntu automagically handle partitions.
[11:05] <ObrienDave> oooo, is there a password floating around now? ;P
[11:05] <SaulMecanus> potatoooooooooooooo
[11:05] <Rory> ObrienDave: Yes but nothing useful to anybody in here
[11:05] <dragon7> cfhowlett but i want to manually do it
[11:05] <ObrienDave> darn ;))
[11:06] <Potato81> hey
[11:06] <Potato81> saullllllllll
[11:06] <SaulMecanus> Why you smoke weed every day???
[11:06] <cfhowlett> dragon7, OK: advice only:  set 10 gigs for /      set 2 x your RAM for swap   set the remainder in /home
[11:06] <SaulMecanus> Why???
[11:06] <SaulMecanus> e
[11:06] <SaulMecanus> e
[11:06] <FloodBot1> SaulMecanus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <Potato81> hbla por el correo que aqui me aburro
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !es|Potato81,
[11:07] <dragon7> cfhowlett: decided that 50 gb will be for /  and will set 2 gb for ram rest will be partitioned later
[11:07] <LjL> Potato81, SaulMecanus: este es un canal en inglés de Ubuntu. por favor, si quieren hablar uno con el otro, PM
[11:07] <SaulMecanus> what hapened with potato81????
[11:07] <SaulMecanus> q pasa con potato 81??
[11:07] <cfhowlett> dragon7, wasted space.
[11:08] <LjL> SaulMecanus: he left
[11:08] <dragon7> why cfhowlett?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> dragon7, I've got ubuntustudio and all the extras + the sputnik developer apps.  my / still doesn't go over 6.5 gigs
[11:09] <SaulMecanus> potato is my frend and he's a motherfucker
[11:09] <cfhowlett> dragon7, correction: 10 gigs
[11:09] <LjL> !ops | SaulMecanus
[11:09] <Myrtti> SaulMecanus: stop.
[11:09] <philinux> dragon7;~ same here my / is always set at 10 gig. currently using 5.5 gig
[11:09] <SaulMecanus> ok sorry
[11:10] <cfhowlett> !coc
[11:10] <Tm_T> SaulMecanus: please either stick on ubuntu support or please part, this is not a place for foul language or random chit chat
[11:10] <SaulMecanus> the name of potato81 is Julián and he is in my clasroom
[11:10] <Myrtti> SaulMecanus: great, but we're not interested.
[11:10] <LjL> SaulMecanus: i had guessed as much, but still, this is not the place for it
[11:11] <philinux> dragon7;~ however you need to watch for old kernels building up. I use conky to show disk usage as well as othe rstuff
[11:12] <SaulMecanus> xD ok  I leave of the chat
[11:12] <SaulMecanus> and sorry
[11:12] <SaulMecanus> bye
[11:12] <LjL> SaulMecanus: it's okay, but next time, remember you can /join #anything to talk with someone else, or just /query name
[11:12] <SaulMecanus> ok thanks
[11:12] <SaulMecanus> byeeee
[11:13] <Kartagis> how to update `which` path?
[11:13] <Rory> !path
[11:14] <theadmin> That factoid is a bit broken.
[11:15] <Rory> theadmin: That factionoid is That factoid is a bit broken
[11:15] <Rory> I've noticed a few out-of-date or incorrect factoids actually, who is in charge of that stuff?
[11:15] <theadmin> Rory: The ops here are, you can send modification requests for those
[11:15] <theadmin> !path is <reply>The $PATH variable tells the shell where to look for the commands you tell it to run. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables
[11:16] <theadmin> Rory: ^ like that
[11:16] <Rory> Oh, very nice, thanks theadmin
[11:17] <llutz> Kartagis: if you have single commands showing wrong pathes, use "hash -d <cmd>"
[11:18] <theadmin> llutz: What's that do? "man hash" shows me a manual for some C functions.
[11:19] <llutz> theadmin: update the actual hash-table for that <cmd>
[11:19] <philinux> Kartagis;~ what are you trying to do?
[11:20] <WhatElse> hi guys
[11:20] <WhatElse> I can't get ubuntu working, I always had (after installation): "BUG: soft lookup CPU#0 stuck for 23s!"
[11:21] <llutz> theadmin: shell builtin, "help hash" not "man hash"
[11:21] <WhatElse> I tried ubuntu 13.04, 13.10 and 14.04 (I thought it could be a kernel problem)
[11:21] <theadmin> llutz: Ah.
[11:21] <Kartagis> philinux: I have added an autocomplete script to /etc/bash_completion.d/ but when I login, I get "x not found in <$PATH>"
[11:24] <dragon7> cfhowlett: had ubuntu installed previously and had separated 50gb for /
[11:25] <cfhowlett> dragon7, your box, your choice.
[11:26] <dragon7> cfhowlett: can't we extend /home later
[11:27] <cfhowlett> dragon7, sure.  PITA but, sure.  again: I've got WAY more than the standard ubuntu install, and I've yet to crack 10 G in /     but YMMV .  Go for it.
[11:28] <theadmin> dragon7: You can, yes, but generally /home is what takes up most of your disk space. I have a ton of programs installed and all, yet my / is only 8G.
[11:28] <Church> 10G? no problems. once you separate /home
[11:28] <theadmin> dragon7: 20GB is more than enough for it.
[11:28] <theadmin> 50 is overkill
[11:28] <cfhowlett> dragon7, maybe that's where the confusion is setting in.
[11:29] <Church> pitty ubuntu doesn't have lvm in native installer easy to use gui
[11:29] <cfhowlett> dragon7, the filesystem itself shouldn't run more than about 10 G on a standard install.  the rest can be applied to /home
[11:29] <dragon7> cfhowlett: but I have 17/50 gb occupied atleast gparted says so
[11:29] <Gritstone> mine is 2Tb.
[11:29] <theadmin> dragon7: But is /home on a separate partition?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> dragon7, wait.  YOU said this HDD was for ubuntu only?
[11:29] <WhatElse> I can't get ubuntu working, I always had (after installation): "BUG: soft lookup CPU#0 stuck for 23s!". I tried ubuntu 13.04, 13.10 and 14.04 (I thought it could be a kernel problem)
[11:29] <dragon7> yes
[11:30] <cfhowlett> dragon7, and did you put /home in it's OWN partition?
[11:30] <Gritstone> exit
[11:30]  * cfhowlett bets no it's not.
[11:30] <dragon7> cfhowlett what i did was seperated 50gb for / and 2gb for swap
[11:31] <dragon7> then installed
[11:32] <llutz> what is a "separated /"?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> dragon7,  pretty much NOT what I suggested ... but your box.  not like it won't work, you just have wasted space.
[11:33] <philinux> dragon7;~ is your home within root or on a separate partition
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dragon7, and you can always repartition if you want.
[11:33] <dragon7> philinux in the same partition of 50 gb
[11:33] <ActionPa1snip> WhatElse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757773
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dragon7, so you know: the reason why /home partition is recommended is so you can reinstall without risking your data.
[11:35] <Dean_> Hello, I have an SSD disk that had Windows OS installed but for some reason it fails during launch. I've connected the disk through USB to a 12.04 pc in order to see if I can peak inside the disk but to no success. Any hints how can I at least save the files inside?
[11:36] <dragon7> cfhowlett: that means i should partition /home as separate and "/" as separate partitions?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> dragon7, that's how I do it.
[11:36] <dragon7> cfhowlett: do i have to mount the partition for /home every time
[11:37] <dragon7> if i did above thing
[11:37] <cfhowlett> dragon7, it'll mount automatically
[11:37] <cfhowlett> !home
[11:39] <dragon7> cfhowlett okay got that but let's say I separated 20gb for "/" and rest for "/home" then I can partition "/home" later right?
[11:39] <philinux> cfhowlett;~ i've moved away from sep home I now have a data partition instead
[11:39] <cfhowlett> dragon7, yes you can always repart later.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> philinux, efi/mbr?
[11:40] <philinux> cfhowlett;~ no efi here
[11:41] <dragon7> cfhowlett: keeping /home in separate partition means i won't lose the data even if i switch to other distros right?
[11:42] <cfhowlett> philinux, have had /home since 2010 and since I only clean install LTS: I don't actually get much practice. The 2010 partition table is still in place.
[11:42] <WhatElse> ActionPa1snip, it didn't help me, I tried variuos kernel version :/
[11:42] <brayn> Morning. The power went out and now I can't connect to the internet (wired and wireless). I've tried rebooting, also the internet works using a live CD. Any ideas why?
[11:43] <brayn> I'm using 13.10
[11:43] <WhatElse> ActionPa1snip, if you remember yesterday I have some random problem, someone suggested me to reset bios and after it never worked
[11:43] <philinux> cfhowlett;~ I had same for years too. but i reinstall new version every 6 months so decided to format home and start afresh but with data partition for non os stuff
[11:45] <philinux> cfhowlett;~ I just backup the essential config files like xchat FF evolution you know
[11:45] <brayn> I've tried restarting networking and removing my MAC from the router, but no success
[11:45] <cfhowlett> dragon7, correct ... although we'd rather see you commit to a *buntu distro.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> philinux, nice.
[11:45] <vats_monroe> hi there guys, ireally need some help here, i messed up Ubuntu really bad and now every time i try to start it up i get an error telling me that i have graphics problem and then i just get a black screen, i have to be honest i tried to change the name of my computer using gksudo and i think that is way i messed it up, i know im not supposed to use that command but i really wanted to change it, im running windows 8 right now, so any advice on how to fix
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset
[11:46] <theadmin> vats_monroe: Get to the command line (via recovery mode) and remove your xorg.conf. To change the name of your computer, you need to update /etc/hostname
[11:47] <brayn> It must be Ubuntu since it worked on the Live CD, so the netwrok is fine
[11:47] <vats_monroe> theadmin: once im in the recovery screen do you know which option i have to use theres like 8 of them, sorry new to linux :)
[11:48] <theadmin> vats_monroe: You choose the "root" option (root shell) and then you need to remount your fs read-write and remove that file, so as follows: mount -o rewrite,rw / && rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <theadmin> vats_monroe: And then you can echo "your_new_hostname" > /etc/hostname
[11:48] <theadmin> vats_monroe: Followed by "reboot".
[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> theadmin: probably better to rename, less destructive
[11:51] <vats_monroe> theadmin: ok ill give it a shot ill be back in a few and let you know what happened hope it works out well anything else i need to know? :S
[11:51] <theadmin> ActionPa1snip: Eh. I suppose that makes sense.
[11:52] <theadmin> vats_monroe: As ActionPa1snip said, it might be best to move that file elsewhere instead of removing, such as mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hamster
[11:54] <vats_monroe> theadmin: Ok, yeah i might up deleting a whole bunch of stuff with rm its happened to me before, rm is so picky with syntax LOL
[11:54] <vats_monroe> ok guys thanks for the heads up ill give it a shot unless i end up shooting myself on the foot
[11:55] <WhatElse> I can't get ubuntu working, I always had (after installation): "BUG: soft lookup CPU#0 stuck for 23s!" <-- after a lot of restarting, I have a working session, what can i try now?
[11:56] <WhatElse> current Kernel is: 3.12.0-4
[11:56] <brayn> I'm thinking of re-installing ubuntu without format. Do you have any other suggestion? thanks
[11:57] <Rory> WhatElse: Can you please paste the output from the "dmesg" and "lsmod" commands?
[11:57] <Rory> !paste | WhatElse
[11:58] <aaronmehar> whats the name of the X conf that defines my screen settings? Id like to take a look
[11:59] <Rory> aaronmehar: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <DJones> !xorgconf | aaronmehar
[11:59] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ you may not have that file though
[11:59] <aaronmehar> I dont have it
[11:59] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ yep same here
[12:00] <DJones> aaronmehar: Quite often its no longer required now
[12:00] <aaronmehar> Its just I was trying 3 screens on my 8400GS cards and it laggy like a bitch
[12:00] <aaronmehar> I test with a HD5450 and all 3 screen working amazingly
[12:01] <WhatElse> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483990
[12:01] <Rory> aaronmehar: Sounds like you might need a graphics driver from the Additional Drivers program (a tab in Software Sources)
[12:01] <aaronmehar> I thought Ubuntu may have generated the file but I could find it
[12:01] <aaronmehar> Rory: Why? All 3 are working great
[12:02] <WhatElse> Rory, see line 906
[12:02] <aaronmehar> although this card is meant to be a dual head with 1 digi clock so I am confunded on how its working
[12:02] <WhatElse> Rory, and you can search for: "BUG: soft lookup", you'll find 4 entries :/
[12:07] <dragon7> cfhowlett: so i should give ~10gb to "/" , 2gb for swap and rest for "/home"
[12:09] <imdea>  Hi one question, I have an ubuntu machine with openssh installed and there is one user that I want to connect as, using ssh keys, I have generated the key and put the public key under ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file for that user and I have in my user's ~/.ssh directory the private key, however when I try to connect from the same machine using: ssh <user>@<host> I'm getting a Permission denied (publickey). If I do it from another machine, then it works, any ideas?
[12:10] <imdea> In the auth.log file I'm getting: sshd[24710]: Connection closed by 192.168.10.113 [preauth]
[12:12] <llutz> imdea: what are the permissions of ~/.ssh/*  make sure those dir/files are user-owned and not writable by anybody else
[12:13] <imdea> llutz: this is the output of ssh -v http://pastebin.com/ER5gL0Lx
[12:14] <llutz> imdea: your key is a (openssl) pem-key?
[12:14] <vats_monroe> the admin: nope didnt work, read only system
[12:14] <imdea> llutz, yes
[12:14] <vats_monroe> theadmin:couldnt remove, or change it
[12:15] <imdea> llutz, sorry no
[12:15] <imdea> llutz, I generated it with openssh
[12:15] <vats_monroe> ok looks like he left
[12:16] <philinux> dragon7;~ thats what I used to have
[12:17] <ActionPa1snip> imdea: chmod -R 600 ~/.ssh   or may be:  chmod 600 -R ~/.ssh
[12:17] <dragon7> philinux: if wine is installed where would that be installed on "/" or /home
[12:18] <dragon7> i mean installed programs
[12:18] <imdea> ActionPa1snip, same thing, still doesn't work
[12:18] <philinux> dragon7;~ wine itself gets installed in / all the other stuff like the virtual c drive go in home
[12:19] <vats_monroe> hi there guys im having a big problem i need some help, my ubuntu just crashed bigtime im getting this message "Your screen, graphics card and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will need to configure these yourself", so I was getting some help on this and the suggestion was to go in to the root shell and mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.hamster, two things happened here, first i dont have that file and the one i have
[12:20] <dragon7> that means softwares are installed in / and user data reside in /home right philinux?
[12:20] <philinux> dragon7;~ yep but 10 gig is more than enough for /
[12:21] <WhatElse> almost all time my ubuntu doesn't start, and giva a : "BUG: soft lookup CPU# stuck" , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483990 , thank you for your help
[12:21] <dragon7> was thinking of 15gb earlier ;) *experience with windows*
[12:22] <philinux> dragon7;~ as long as /home is sep partition
[12:22] <vats_monroe> anyone?
[12:22] <cfhowlett> !patience|vats_monroe,
[12:23] <vats_monroe> sorry :(
[12:23] <philinux> dragon7;~ ubuntu linux is not windows
[12:24] <aaronmehar> my / partition is 7G... /home 100G and /VMs 500G
[12:25] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ just watch out for kernels building up they can cause root to be short of space eventually
[12:25] <aaronmehar> its a 2TB drive :-)
[12:26] <dragon7> philinux what does kernel building up mean?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> aaronmehar, yeah, but kernels WILL stack in your /boot
[12:26] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ thats irrelevant really all kernels go in root
[12:26] <aaronmehar> plus I have on my list to du run once a night and emailing me the results so I see disk space climbing
[12:26] <cfhowlett> dragon7, just means you need to do some housecleaning from time to time
[12:26] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ good plan
[12:27] <aaronmehar> besides.. how many kernels will I really have.. say know I have 3 versions on 12.04
[12:27] <dragon7> cfhowlett still confused, do you mean defragmenting hard disk o.O
[12:27] <imdea> any ideas?
[12:27] <rymate> ive installed and setup a unity-2d remote desktop on 12.04 ubuntu
[12:27] <philinux> dragon7;~ when a new kernel comes out it always goes in /boot a few old ones can take up gigs of space - housekeeping to remove them now and again is all thats needed
[12:27] <cfhowlett> dragon7,  no and you don't need to worry on a new install.  relax and enjoy the *buntu
[12:28] <rymate> however the title bar is showing for maximised windows
[12:28] <rymate> how do i hide it?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> dragon7, and linux doesn't do "defrag" ... windows it ain't.
[12:30] <vats_monroe> ok guys just to let you know im goin to try the following and see if it works, im posting it if your interested in whats happening to me http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error, and again im sorry if i seemed impatient :)
[12:30] <dragon7> okay guys here's what i'm doing 10gb for /, 2gb swap space and rest for /home and see you on other side of installation
[12:30] <cfhowlett> dragon7, :)
[12:31] <aaronmehar> dragon7 How much RAM do you have?
[12:31] <resolute> is there anyone here who can help me with autoconf?
[12:31] <streulma> has someone experiences with Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro Retina ?
[12:31] <dragon7> 4gb aaronmehar
[12:31] <wjx> Hi, anyone knows how to compile 'gnome-control-center' ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !mac|streulma,
[12:31] <aaronmehar> cool... I prefer to have swap set to RAM+2
[12:31] <wjx> ./configure gives config.status: error: cannot find input file: `panels/bluetooth/bluetooth-properties.desktop.in.in'
[12:31] <aaronmehar> how much drive space do you have?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !whoo
[12:32] <cfhowlett> !who
[12:32] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ ram + 2 is old hat now
[12:33] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ thats from the old days of low ram machines. for swap see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:33] <aaronmehar> philinux: really? I think ram x2 was old... whats the new "How much swap" formula?
[12:33] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ me i have 2 gig ram so swap is 2. Thats because of suspend needs
[12:34] <aaronmehar> hmm I uselly state RAM+2 but I myself have 4G here and 10G on one my desktops at home
[12:35] <aaronmehar> but that is running an openvz server + has low ram and low disk so the swap gets used
[12:35] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ the swapfaq is really good
[12:35] <aaronmehar> I have clients  (hosting company) that have way more 10G being used
[12:35] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ thats a diff kettle of fish i see
[12:35] <aaronmehar> philinux: i know what swap is / used / how to add etc
[12:36] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ no worries then
[12:36] <aaronmehar> I just had realised RAM +2 wasnt being used  :) I will read the part on "How Much swap do I need"
[12:37] <aaronmehar> as its different needs to a server environment
[12:37] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ yep thats the bit
[12:38] <Kartagis> anybody replied to me withoug highlighting? I may not have notices
[12:38] <philinux> aaronmehar;~ in fact that bit looks a bit dated now too as most newer machines have huge drives
[12:39] <aaronmehar> Ive never support Desktops so all my knowledge and XP are mainly in CentOS, RedHat and small bits of Ubuntu Server so Ubunut Desktop is different, I am here to learn and help :)
[12:39] <sanji> helooo
[12:39] <aaronmehar> I also have tux tattooed to my arm :D
[12:39] <sanji> really??
[12:39] <aaronmehar> sanji: yep and some binary and 802.11 and 802.3
[12:40] <aaronmehar> Im getting "cat /dev/random > life | sort" added soon
[12:40] <sanji> oh
[12:41] <aaronmehar> sounds like a disapproving oh :)
[12:41] <sanji> noo
[12:42] <sanji> where u cme from?/
[12:42] <aaronmehar> Slough, UK
[12:42] <cfhowlett> sanji, this isn't a social channel.  If you have an ubuntu question please ask.  otherwise, see #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <sanji> okk..sorry
[12:43] <sanji> i m just asking
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:44] <sanji> heyy
[12:46] <sanji> anyone play assault cube in ubuntu??
[12:46] <cfhowlett> !anyone
[12:47] <sanji> i want know
[12:47] <sanji> okk
[12:50] <SNK3> Is anyone here using Awesome WM ?
[12:51] <somsip> SNK3: what's the issue?
[12:52] <gordonjcp> SNK3: newbs who equate tiny pixelly grey-on-grey text and having to hand-edit huge config files with "expert", possibly
[12:52] <SNK3> @gordonjcp lol
[12:52] <saifulrizwan_> lol
[12:52]  * cfhowlett thinks: hmmm.  no bias evident in that statement.
[12:52] <SNK3> somsip: I just wanted people opinion
[12:53] <SNK3> poeple's*
[12:53] <SNK3> -_-
[12:53] <SNK3> people's *
[12:53] <dragon7> philinux: sorry for this but which "type of new partition" should i use for /, swap and home?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> ext4. but it's not new , dragon7
[12:55] <dragon7> BluesKaj: not that primary or logical
[12:56] <BluesKaj> dragon7 ?
[12:56] <Myrtti> dragon7: swap is always swap
[12:57] <vats_monroe> im back again guys and it didnt work
[12:57] <dragon7> BluesKaj: which one should i choose for swap: primary or logical?
[12:57] <Trudko> Guys  I want to run ubuntu from usb for one day. I am going on hackaton so I need to develop a bit some android, maybe some webserver and I do need to access internet. I cant install ubuntu on laptop it self(it is borred for one day) Should It work?
[12:57] <Trudko> I will have some average usb 2.0 stick with
[12:57] <BluesKaj> swap is always primary afaik, dragon7
[12:58] <dragon7> okay, but what should i do with "/home", BluesKaj?
[12:58] <vats_monroe> so ill just make it simple, since i just installed ubuntu yesterday ill try and do a reinstall from the recovery shell, however Im getting the following message "Read Only System" thus I cant run sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop because im gettin Not using locking..... so can you help me with this
[12:59] <MajSlayer> hello, any recommendations on a good forum software that's open source? checked out phpBB, but eh, makes me want to spend $$ on vBulletin.. sadly..
[12:59] <MajSlayer> was running v4 and well it wont work with new LAMP install..
[12:59] <BluesKaj> you could create a swap file rather than a partition, after installing dragon7 , they work almost as well
[13:00] <BluesKaj> dragon7. you haven't explalned your partition table so it's difficult to answer
[13:02] <wjx> MajSlayer: what about http://www.discourse.org/
[13:02] <dragon7> okay wait BluesKaj:
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer: http://simplemachines.org/
[13:02] <MajSlayer> thanks guys
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer: punbb
[13:02] <MajSlayer> yeah mainly just need something that will at least support adsense ads
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer: http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/03/how-to-install-latest-version-of-mybb.html
[13:04] <MajSlayer> yeah mybb looks pretty nice, does it support ads?
[13:05] <vats_monroe> Help Please...
[13:06] <MajSlayer> guess i could always add the adsense code myself..
[13:07] <jnhghy> how can I get in terminal the version number of my ubuntu? like "12.04" or other version number?
[13:07] <haagch> Hi, I have libvirt on ubuntu 12.04. With virt-manager I tried adding an iso to a windows 2012 vm, but instead canceled and quit virt-manager. Now I can't connect to libvirt neither with virt-manager nor with virsh directly. it just hangs there with no output, even with --debug=4 and libvirt stopped logging to /var/log/libvirt/libvirtd.log too... last messages were qemuDomainObjBeginJobInternal:789 : Timed out during operation: cannot 
[13:08] <k1l_> jnhghy: "lsb_release -r"   or -a for all output
[13:08] <jnhghy> thanks k1l_
[13:08] <dragon7> BluesKaj: here's what i have done or planning to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484254/
[13:08] <haagch> reload libvirt-bin and restart libvirt-bin of course don't help
[13:08] <MajSlayer> anyhow thanks for the suggestions guys
[13:09] <MajSlayer> i know it was off topic, but eh, wasn't sure where else to go, did do some googlin' but eh
[13:09] <MajSlayer> everything leads to phpBB
[13:11] <dry[1]> hi. I have new Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Is there any change in permissions that don't allow other files to access subdirectories? I haven't change anything and my php code stopped working on new ubuntu. Description: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190292
[13:12] <Church> dry: i beleave you are talking about reinstall, where you mounted some dir/fs with files from old install?
[13:13] <Church> maybe your numeric UID/GID changed while textual names for user/group were recreated like old?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> dragon7. do you have any other OS's like windows or other linux installed on the the hdd, if not then /home should be primary too
[13:15] <Foxhoundz> why do fonts on Ubuntu or any other Linux distro look distorted, scaling improperly and bolded improperly?
[13:15] <Foxhoundz> Windows 7 renders fonts in a crip, clean manner
[13:15] <Nach0z> Foxhoundz: chances are your graphics drivers are borked
[13:15] <dragon7> no i don't have Windows but i'm reinstalling Ubuntu13.10
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, opinion, not fact.  but it does suggest you might wish to see your GPU
[13:16] <cfhowlett> or your settings
[13:16] <Nach0z> ^^this too
[13:16] <dragon7> no i don't have Windows but i'm reinstalling Ubuntu13.10 BluesKaj
[13:16] <dry[1]> Church: My files are mounted somewhere else, but they are working when I change permissions. UID and GID are the same as before.
[13:16] <Foxhoundz> cfhowlett: it is fact. I took a screenshot of a Windows 7 and Ubuntu chrome windows
[13:16] <Nach0z> I've always had very clean font rendering in linux once I've updated the graphics drivers appropriately
[13:16] <Foxhoundz> and the fonts are noticeably different
[13:16] <Foxhoundz> And this has nothing to do with my GPU
[13:16] <Foxhoundz> as it's using the open source intel drivers
[13:16] <cfhowlett> Foxhoundz, if your prefer windows, use that, please.
[13:16] <vats_monroe> Im trying not to be repetitive sorry if its anoying.. I have a problem, I changed the Host name on ubuntu and all hell broke loose, after i changed it I rebooted as instructed, however, once it started i got this message "Your Screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will now need to configure these yourself", a guy in this chatroom try to help me out and told me to run the root shell in recovery mode and tr
[13:17] <Foxhoundz> What are you even talking about, cfhowlett
[13:17] <Foxhoundz> where, pray tell, did I prefer windows?
[13:17] <Foxhoundz> I was trying to find out why fonts were rendered incorrectly in Ubuntu
[13:17] <Foxhoundz> when compared to Windows 7
[13:17] <Ben64> different != incorrect
[13:17] <designbybeck> Foxhoundz, what version of Ubuntu?
[13:18] <Foxhoundz> it's incorrect. The widths of the fonts are wrong compared to the reference screenshots released by Microsoft
[13:18] <Ben64> why should ubuntu follow microsoft's guidelines?
[13:19] <haagch> hm, invoking service libvirt-bin restart again helped
[13:19] <Foxhoundz> 13.10
[13:19] <haagch> enterprise grade software...
[13:20] <designbybeck> Foxhoundz,  have you tried something like Unity Tweak Tool? and set your fonts Hinting to Full ?
[13:20] <philinux> Foxhoundz;~ I prefer the rendering in ubuntu to win 7 . It's a matter of preference
[13:20] <Church> dry: then maybe, if you mentioned php, there was something set with webserver .htaccess or alike config files different in new install then in old one?
[13:20] <BluesKaj> dragon7. then  your 13.10 install should be on an exteneded logical partition
[13:21] <dragon7> BluesKaj: i'm wiping out the 13.10
[13:22] <BluesKaj> dragon7. why ?
[13:24] <ActionPa1snip> BluesKaj: lack of unity 2d :)
[13:24] <dragon7> BluesKaj: reinstalling
[13:27] <BluesKaj> dragon7. you can have / and /home  as primaries for 2 OSs then just create a swap file in each of those OSs , that way you get around the 4 primaries without having to fool with logicals
[13:28] <dragon7> BluesKaj: you mean not creating swap space??
[13:28] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:29] <BluesKaj> swap partitions are hardly needed anymore unless you're running a laptop with sleep which requires it
[13:29] <BluesKaj> dragon7.^
[13:30] <Trudko> Guys  I want to run ubuntu from usb for one day. I am going on hackaton so I need to develop a bit some android, maybe some webserver and I do need to access internet. I cant install ubuntu on laptop it self(it is borred for one day) Should It work?
[13:30] <dragon7> i use sleep sometimes BluesKaj
[13:30] <BluesKaj> dragon7. is this a laptop ?
[13:30] <ActionPa1snip> Trudko: yes, just use a big persistance and you can install applications to the USB stick
[13:31] <niee> #join #gentoo
[13:31] <Trudko> ActionPa1snip: what do you mean by big persistance_
[13:31] <niee> opss sorry
[13:31] <BluesKaj> ok then , you have a decision to make , dragon7
[13:32] <ActionPa1snip> Trudko: if you use unetbootin to put the install iso on usb you can set a persistance data store so that changes stick
[13:32] <dragon7> argh confusion confusion
[13:32] <ActionPa1snip> Trudko: alternatively you can install to the USB as if it were a 'normal' harddrive and it will work as a 'normal' harddrive.
[13:33] <DannyButterman> Hi there, may someone help me install ubuntu 12.04 on RAID 0 with the alternate CD ? I've spent my morning on it to no avail
[13:33] <Trudko> ActionPa1snip: I see thank you
[13:35] <max____> hi, i have too many time failed to update my ubuntu. i googled a lot but not found the solution. i'm wondering if someone meet these kinds of situation. here's its updating output (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484334/). any help would be appreciate.
[13:35] <cartusia> I upgraded from Raring to Saucy and it disabled my graphics card, now when I want to open any program which requires graphics it won't allow me. Is their a quick fix to this, it shows that I am using an alternative driver.
[13:35] <G[zero]D> Hi all, there are expert using "expect" ?
[13:35] <cartusia> when I type fglrxinfo it does not give me the specs back
[13:37] <G[zero]D> Hi all, there are expert using "expect" ?
[13:38] <cartusia> max____, I had the same problem what worked for me was to install xfce
[13:38] <BluesKaj> !patience |G[zero]D.
[13:38] <cartusia> whatever libraries I was missing it helped.
[13:38] <max____> yep, i use xfce desktop. cartusia
[13:39] <max____> i have already about two months not updating my ubuntu 12.10.
[13:40] <G[zero]D> BluesKaj, some people are joined, maybe an expert with expect :D
[13:40] <max____> cartusia, what made you fix it?
[13:40] <ubuntuaddicted> i am running a Win7 guest within VirtualBox 9Xubuntu 12.04.3) host. I was installing software within Win7 and the Vm froze. I had to force quit the VM and force quit Vbox. Now when I click on Vbox icon nothing happens
[13:40] <BluesKaj> G[zero]D. wait for 10 mins then asl again , not every 30 secs
[13:40] <glitsj16> max____: the 'sudo apt-get update' paste looks good, so that part of the ubuntu 'update' routine is ok .. 'sudo apt-get upgrade' does the actual downloading and installing part .. just wondering  what that command gives you when run from terminal
[13:41] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: Are you sure the process is killed ?
[13:41] <cartusia> max____, well with me it was some library for sure, that would give me errors. But I dont know what might be your problem, I just switched to KDE.
[13:41] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, I've since logged out and back in, don't all running process's get killed when you log out?
[13:42] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: yea they do
[13:42] <max____> glitsj16,  will `upgrade' action upgrade my os to 13.10? i don't want to do that.
[13:42] <DannyButterman> Please raid 0 install someone ?
[13:42] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: is the application as a whole not launching or just that particular os ?
[13:42] <max____> cartusia, KDE is nice, too.
[13:42] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, i've even tried running virtualbox from the terminal to check its output but nothing is being output besides this Error opening file for reading: Permission denied
[13:43] <glitsj16> max____: no that's another command, a regular 'update' routine on ubuntu involves 2 parts, you seem to have done only the first one
[13:43] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, the Virtualbox 4.3.2 application as a whole
[13:45] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: are u a member of the groups vboxusers, lp and users ?
[13:45] <max____> ahha, i never knew. regular package updating used to in GUI manner. glitsj16
[13:45] <LayAnotherBlock> hey ubuntu community. I have a question
[13:45] <cfhowlett> LayAnotherBlock, ask
[13:45] <max____> thanks for your reminding. glitsj16
[13:45] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, i am in vboxusers, not the others BUT i was running the win7 Vbox just fine yesterday before the crash
[13:46] <glitsj16> max____: that's okay, we all had to learn the hard way :)
[13:46] <LayAnotherBlock> Ok, If i use the .iso i just downloaded as a virtual CD in VirtualBox, will it work?
[13:46] <G[zero]D> BluesKaj, I have paid much money for your support.. XD BTW, ok, sorry man
[13:46] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: I have heard of other people having these problems... one sec lemme dig up a link
[13:46] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1940938
[13:46] <max____> glitsj16, i almost want to switch my ubuntu to other distribution, which will be really pain.
[13:46] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, i just added myself to those other groups. let me log out and back in. be right back
[13:46] <cfhowlett> LayAnotherBlock, it will work, yes
[13:47] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, lol, i was just reading that thread from a google search. i'll be right bacl
[13:47] <DannyButterman> I can't install Ubuntu 12.04 64 on RAID 0 using alternate CD. Please I'm looking for a helping hand
[13:47] <LayAnotherBlock> ok. Time to use ubuntu 12.04 in Windows 8
[13:47] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: sure
[13:50] <glitsj16> max____: indeed, things can get confusing with the terminology used i agree (sudo apt-get update refreshes your packages list with what's in the repo's, sudo apt-get upgrade does the actual installing as a reminder) .. if you didn't do that for 2 months you could get quite some packages that are updateable
[13:50] <cfhowlett> max____, don't feel bad.  I ran apt-get update for years before I learned that it wasn't doing any upgrading
[13:50] <kyloth> hello. im using an external hardrive to run ubuntu via wubi installer, upon booting i received a dev sda error code i was wondering if someone could hyperlink me a hardware diagnostic tool to see if my buffers are failing on my HDD
[13:51] <max____> glitsj16, sorry to bother you again. do you know how to select only important package to update in command line, such as security package.
[13:52] <kyloth> ive encountered similar errors before and it was a failing buffer error so i wanted to see if there was a windows hardware diagnostic tool i could use on this partition to check my HDD for buffer errors
[13:52] <max____> glitsj16, my GUI update reminder seems not working, so ...
[13:52] <kyloth> glistj16 you might consider download the packages manually one by one as opposed to doing a full update download
[13:52] <max____> cfhowlett, haha~
[13:52] <glitsj16> max____: no bother, i use synaptic as GUI mostly myself, that gives you more control over what you want to upgrade ..
[13:53] <kyloth> i was gonna say synaptic sounds like what you need but then i read what you jusut said
[13:53] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, that wasn't it. still can't launch Vbox, even as root it won't launch
[13:53] <max____> cfhowlett, thanks for sharing your story of ubuntu update.
[13:53] <glitsj16> kyloth: thanks, it's max____ who needs some help, no worries
[13:54] <max____> thanks, kyloth
[13:54] <glitsj16> max____: are you using software-center as GUI?
[13:54] <kyloth> i just need a link to a decent hardware diagnostics tool for windows to see if the buffers on my external HDD are failing or if my wubi install was botched from bad download
[13:54] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: who's the owner of the file ?
[13:55] <max____> it used to has an auto updating reminder, glitsj16
[13:55] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, trying to reinstall it results in Ubuntu Software Center telling me it's still running
[13:55] <max____> but it's not, now.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> kyloth, windows diagnostic tool?  best to ask #windows maybe?
[13:55] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, so i guess maybe it survived a log out?  I am going to restart my entire machine to get a clean slate. be right back
[13:55] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: Try running ps -ef |grep -i vbox
[13:56] <SNK3> instead of restarting
[13:56] <kyloth> well i came hgere because i recived a dev sda error code (actually dev SDC but only cuz its external drive :Z)
[13:56] <glitsj16> max____: ah that sounds like update-manager then, any error messages when you run that from terminal?
[13:56] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, returns this http://pastebin.com/e66VHQeh
[13:56] <kyloth> and when connected to my windows partiiton my external HDD has no problems writing and deleting data to and from it
[13:57] <kyloth> but my wubi install failed me twice with two different wubi installer downloads
[13:57] <max____> `update-manager'? glitsj16
[13:57] <max____> not found it, yet.
[13:57] <pzn> I have a PC with webcam, microphone and speakers. I'd like to "emulate" it as if it were an IP camera. is there any ubuntu package for that?
[13:58] <max____> i only mention `update-software-center'
[13:58] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, goign to go in a private message window with you if that's ok
[13:58] <SNK3> ubuntuaddicted: no probs
[13:58] <yhusha> I have about 700 files which may or may not contain key words in the file names that need to be recursively renamed while maintaining the other parts of file names..
[13:59] <glitsj16> max____: okay that could be, been a while since i used xubuntu, try that and see if you get errors
[14:00] <max____> it seems no error
[14:00] <max____> max@max-K43SV:squashfs$ sudo update-software-center
[14:00] <max____> Updating software catalog...this may take a moment.
[14:00] <max____> INFO:softwarecenter.db.pkginfo_impl.aptcache:aptcache.open()
[14:00] <max____> Software catalog update was successful.
[14:00] <FloodBot1> max____: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <yhusha> ie file name coin01 coin02 coinetc to shekel01 shekel02 shekeletc
[14:00] <monkeyjuice> pzn: take a look at motion
[14:01] <pzn> monkeyjuice, thanks
[14:01] <glitsj16> max____: looks good then, what's not working exactly?
[14:01] <LayAnotherBlock> I don't really know yet: Which desktop environment does Ubuntu 12.04 run?
[14:01] <max____> here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484435/
[14:02] <yhusha> the file names may or may not be preceeded with other characters ie. 1stcoinfile 2ndcoinfile should become 1stshekelfile 2ndshekelfile etc.. directory names as well.
[14:02] <lapt0p> Where do i find the option to change the keyboard keys combination for switching keyboard layouts?
[14:02] <Pici> yhusha: take a look at the manpage for 'rename'
[14:03] <glitsj16> max____: besides the first try you forgot sudo that all looks normal
[14:03] <lapt0p> Where do i find the option to change the keyboard keys combination for switching keyboard layouts?
[14:03] <geirha> yhusha: find . -depth -type f -name "*coin*" -execdir prename -n 's/coin/shekel/' {} +
[14:03] <yhusha> have done so man rename is very short
[14:03] <yhusha> nice appreciate it
[14:03] <geirha> yhusha: note the -n means dry-run, so it won't actually rename
[14:03] <glitsj16> max____: did you try the 'sudo apt-get upgrade' command yet?
[14:04] <yhusha> ok.. so remove the -n for rename?
[14:04] <max____> glitsj16, is `update-software-center' the update manger?
[14:04] <geirha> yhusha: Run it with -n first, then remove the -n and run it again if the output looks right
[14:04] <max____> while upgrade, it said "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f."
[14:04] <lapt0p> Where do i find the option to change the keyboard keys combination for switching keyboard layouts?
[14:04] <yhusha> just what I was thinking..
[14:05] <max____> glitsj16, it seems working.
[14:05] <yhusha> appreciate it
[14:05] <glitsj16> max____: that's one possible interface to apt yes, okay :)
[14:05] <max____> only GUI update reminder is not working.
[14:06] <lapt0p> Where do i set the shortcut for switching keyboard layouts?
[14:07] <lapt0p> found it
[14:07] <glitsj16> max____: as you might have noticed, i'm not too familiar with that GUI .. we'll try to see what's the problem with that if you can pastebin the output of the command to start that from a terminal
[14:07] <SNK3> ill brb too
[14:08] <max____> glitsj16, i did it through `sudo apt-get -f install', upgrade got problem, then it hints me to do install to fix it.
[14:08] <glitsj16> max____: sounds okay yes, do what's advised
[14:09] <max____> glitsj16, thanks, i understood. GUI is more complicate that CLI..
[14:09] <glitsj16> :)
[14:09] <max____> btw, do you know which is synaptic command?
[14:09] <Rory> max____: "synaptic"
[14:09] <max____> se_synaptic?
[14:09] <glitsj16> max____: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[14:10] <max____> thanks, Rory and glitsj16 .
[14:10] <max____> i thought everyone have synaptic already.
[14:10] <wjx> I want to compile package 'gnome-control-center', but './configure' gives config.status: error: cannot find input file: `panels/bluetooth/bluetooth-properties.desktop.in.in', any suggestion?
[14:10] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, that was it, needed to reboot. Vbox opens now and im back in my VM
[14:11] <Rory> max____: It used to be included but I believe it was dropped around 12.04/12.10
[14:11] <ubuntuaddicted> SNK3, guess I should've tried the obvious before asking for help
[14:11] <LayAnotherBlock> One last question:
[14:11] <glitsj16> max____: no problem, i never understood taht decision personally, but at least you can simply install and start to use it
[14:11] <LayAnotherBlock> Is there still a downloadable version of Ubuntu with the GNOME 2 environment?
[14:12] <max____> oh, thanks for  reminding me.
[14:12] <Rory> LayAnotherBlock: No. There's Linux Mint with the Mate environment (a fork of gnome 2) but it is not ubuntu
[14:12] <max____> glitsj16, ubuntu 12.10 is the longest os i use until now.
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> LayAnotherBlock: gnome2 is dead upstream, if you like the Gnome2 feel, use Xubuntu
[14:13] <compdoc> LayAnotherBlock, I install ubuntu server without the gui, then add Mate
[14:13] <glitsj16> max____: yes i saw that you're on quantal from one of your pastes
[14:13] <ActionPa1snip> compdoc: why not use minimal instead, you'll get the desktop kernel then
[14:14] <compdoc> because I need vnc or rdp
[14:14] <LayAnotherBlock> ok, i can deal with Unity
[14:14] <max____> glitsj16.  yes, the code "quantal".
[14:14] <glitsj16> max____: personally i wait to upgrade to 14.04 when that's stable, as that is a LTS
[14:14] <Rory> LayAnotherBlock: Look into Xubuntu or Lubuntu, they are the most similar to the "traditional" desktop
[14:14] <ActionPa1snip> compdoc: you can get that in the destop kernel..
[14:15] <LayAnotherBlock> I rather use the normal Ubuntu installations then to install others, makes it a complex process
[14:15] <max____> yeah, ubuntu 13.10 supports only for half a year.
[14:15] <max____> too short.
[14:15] <ActionPa1snip> max____: but you can upgrade in one jump to 14.04 which is LTS
[14:15] <compdoc> ActionPa1snip, I cant get vnc or rdp to work on the new dektop in 13.10
[14:15] <wjx> I want to compile package 'gnome-control-center', but './configure' gives config.status: error: cannot find input file: `panels/bluetooth/bluetooth-properties.desktop.in.in', any suggestion?
[14:16] <ActionPa1snip> compdoc: the desktop in Lubuntu is largely the same #pedantic :)
[14:16] <max____> ActionPa1snip, that's would be a really good new. thanks.
[14:17] <max____> oh, i misunderstand your meaning about 13.10.
[14:17] <max____> ActionPa1snip,
[14:17] <glitsj16> ActionPa1snip: max____ is on 12.10, i thought that can't do the jump to 14.04 in one go?
[14:17] <LayAnotherBlock> I have an ATI Radeon Display Driver. Will ubuntu use that in the VM?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> LayAnotherBlock, unclear.  the VM graphics driver is NOT the hardware GPU
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> glitsj16: no you'd need to upgrade to 13.04 then to 13.10 then finally to 14.04
[14:18] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have an AMD Radeon HD 7660G Discrete-Class graphics card. I tried installing fglrx. The loading screen filled all 5 red dots and then froze. So I came back here for help. They had me purge that stuff and install xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon. since I did that, instead of freezing at loading screen, the display shuts off completely.
[14:18] <max____> glitsj16, ActionPa1snip said though 13.10 supports only for 6 months, it takes advantage jump to 14.04 in one jump.
[14:18] <ActionPa1snip> glitsj16: the only time you can leapfrog releases is LTS to LTS (Precise to Trusty)
[14:18] <GuybrushThreepwo>  One guy told me to use dmesg. Here's that result when using the command prompt which loads after choosing failsafe graphics mode in recovery, then choosing run: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483254/ <- Any advice tolet me get back on my ubuntu partition without clean install of it?
[14:18] <LayAnotherBlock> Ok. so it won't crash like it does when i install it on my PC with radeon? #The "Candy cane effect"
[14:18] <glitsj16> ActionPa1snip: thanks for confirming what i was thinking, confusion hit me there for a sec :)
[14:20] <ademoglu> guys anyone suggest html5 editor for ubuntu ?
[14:20] <Rory> ademoglu: gedit
[14:20] <ActionPa1snip> ademoglu: bluefish
[14:20] <Rory> !vim | ademoglu
[14:21] <ademoglu> actually i need like dreamweaver
[14:21] <Rory> !html | ademoglu
[14:21] <ActionPa1snip> ademoglu: bluefish is a WYSIWYG editor
[14:23] <emerald> anybody know stuff about carding?
[14:27] <GuybrushThreepwo> Is there a better place I should be asking for help?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: you are here since this morning asking about your issue
[14:28] <Rory> GuybrushThreepwo: You could have finished backing up and reinstalling by now :P
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: this is the right place for ubuntu issues, but try to describe as clean as possible
[14:29] <GuybrushThreepwo> lotuspsychje: I don't know how cleaner to describe it. I can go into more detail about what I did and didn't do, but I need someone that's familiar with the issue in the first place.
[14:29] <aaronmehar> where do I reg my nick for freenode?
[14:29] <ubuntuaddicted> weird, now i can't get the USB devices working in my Win7 Vbox. and yes i am part of vboxusers, users, and lp groups.
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> !register | aaronmehar
[14:30] <hawa> i need a good fstab tutorial for beginner... can anybody give me a link???
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: best is to ask all in 1 line and then re-ask same issue once in a while
[14:30] <GuybrushThreepwo> AFAIK, xserver-xord-video-ati and xserver-xord-video-radeon is the current graphics driver stuff I have installed to the best of my knowledge, and it results in my loading my computer, but the display shutting off after a secouple seconts after the ubuntu load screen appears.
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | hawa
[14:30] <ubuntuaddicted> hawa, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[14:31] <aaronmehar> lotuspsychje: Cheers
[14:31] <hawa> @ubottu i want to use it to mount the windows file systems at system start...
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: did you try a recovery mode on a previous kernel= failsafeX ?
[14:31] <hawa> tnx...
[14:32] <GuybrushThreepwo> lotuspsychje: I'm a noob to linux, so I don't even know what that means.
[14:33] <max____> GuybrushThreepwo, it seems like ati driver issue.
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: at boot hold shift and enter grub, then choose a previous kernel to boot into recoverymode and choose failsafeX from the list or package restore
[14:34] <LayAnotherBlock> In VirtualBox, How do i remove the virtual installation disc from the virtual machine?
[14:34] <tovarish> LayAnotherBlock, Host+d
[14:34] <LayAnotherBlock> ok
[14:34] <LayAnotherBlock> ty
[14:34] <GuybrushThreepwo> graphics failsafe ends up doing nothing. but after i use it, i can hit run, and it will load into command prompt mode
[14:34] <GuybrushThreepwo> thats what ive been using up until now to do commands
[14:35] <GuybrushThreepwo> I have not tried package restore yet
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: package restore might take a while, but worth a try
[14:35] <LayAnotherBlock> ok? I'm now staring at a brown screen at startup
[14:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> lotuspsychje: I've never used package restore before.
[14:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> lotuspsychje: Is there something special I need to select after I choose it?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: i fixxed a guys laptop recently on 13.10 with package restore
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: no just follow the install
[14:36] <GuybrushThreepwo> Alright
[14:37] <GuybrushThreepwo> How long approx do you think it'll take to run?
[14:37] <GuybrushThreepwo> something like 20-30 minutes? or hours?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> GuybrushThreepwo: might be an hour
[14:38] <fartboner> hi!
[14:39] <Rory> fartboner: Hello
[14:39] <Rory> ikonia: A little pre-emptive?
[14:39] <ikonia> Rory: no
[14:41] <fixmypc956> is it possible to remove fstab entries w/o causing any issue
[14:41] <tovarish> fixmypc956, maybe you'll have issues at boot, but nothing dangerous
[14:43] <hawa> ubottu: the link http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html is not working... looks like the webpage is down... and i want a more specific tutorial rather than the whole wiki of fstab
[14:44] <mao> ubottu, really ???
[14:44] <hawa> can anybody provide me a link to fstab beginner tutorial
[14:44] <hawa> ???
[14:44] <mao> wa
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> hawa: use the gentoo handbook, great source there
[14:45] <ActionPa1snip> hawa: I can give you mine in a pastebin if you want
[14:45] <hawa> gentoo??? yeah sure...
[14:45] <hawa> ActionPalsnip: tnx man... that wud be a gr8 help...
[14:46] <ActionPa1snip> hawa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484672/     remember, yor UUIDS *will* be different
[14:46] <Rory> hawa: This might be good, the Arch Wiki is another useful resource https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab
[14:46] <Rory> hawa: Bear in mind of course, Arch is Arch, and not Ubuntu, but fstab is always the same
[14:47] <hawa> Rory: i find wiki too hard to read with too many details... i just want to mount my windows partitions at startup...
[14:47] <fixmypc956> tovarish: look at this, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484667/ line 15 and 29. i put # to remove them temporarily...seems to have fixed my issue....can i remove them permanently and how so?
[14:48] <Rory> fixmypc956: if  you remove those lines or comment them, those partitions won't be mounted
[14:48] <Rory> Wait fixmypc956 it looks like your fstab is really messy with duplicates and things
[14:48] <fixmypc956> so how do i fix this
[14:49] <fixmypc956> yeah they look like duplicates
[14:50] <fixmypc956> what i want to do is move /home to 1tb hd single partition
[14:50] <fixmypc956> and not have /home on usb flash drive that has my OS
[14:51] <Rory> fixmypc956: You should back up your fstab and make a new one I think so you can be sure it is right
[14:51] <Rory> fixmypc956: You understand the basic principle of fstab?
[14:52] <fixmypc956> Rory: very little experience with linux...learning as i go along
[14:53] <Rory> fixmypc956: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484715/
[14:53] <tovarish> fixmypc956, your /home was duplicated
[14:53] <Rory> fixmypc956: That's a cleaned up fstab with everything EXCEPT a /home partition
[14:53] <tovarish> if you uncomment only one what happen?
[14:54] <zykotick9> tovarish: i believe everything is duplicated in fixmypc956's fstab...
[14:54] <WhatElse> almost all time my ubuntu doesn't start, and giva a : "BUG: soft lookup CPU# stuck" , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6483990 , thank you for your help
[14:55] <fixmypc956> is i uncomment one i get a directory error
[14:56] <faulter> hey
[14:56] <fault3r> hi
[14:56] <philinux> hawa;~ this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[14:56] <fault3r> hey hey
[14:57] <hawa> philinux: tnx
[14:57] <fixmypc956> rory: so should i replace my fstab for the one u pasted
[14:58] <fault3r> i want a conky
[14:58] <fault3r> anyone known a beauty conky from gnome
[14:59] <philinux> fault3r;~ you can start with a simple one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484731/
[14:59] <fixmypc956> what should i use to backup my fstab
[14:59] <Rory> fixmypc956: No I think you should go through it and identify the duplicates - don't forget a partition can only be mounted in one place, and only one partition can be mounted in each place
[14:59] <SNK3> fault3r: there also many conky configs in deviantart
[14:59] <Rory> fixmypc956: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.old
[14:59] <enrico__> why my pc never switch off the screen? the only thing is to run screensaver
[14:59] <enrico__> (xubuntu)
[15:00] <fault3r> philinux i have conky and conky-manager, do you know a meter conky for ubuntu desktop?
[15:00] <Rory> !fstab | fixmypc956 more info on fstab
[15:00] <kunaguvarun> cannot boot live USB. unable to find live file system error !!!
[15:00] <Rory> !md5 | kunaguvarun sounds like a bad download or a bad copy to the USB
[15:00] <Wikiadmin> kunaguvarun: make partition on USB active
[15:01] <philinux> fault3r;~ what to meter?
[15:01] <fault3r> i want something like Infinity Conky 1.0
[15:01] <kunaguvarun> Wikiadmin: How do I do that. I'm on windows
[15:01] <fixmypc956> rory: once i backed up my fstab. how do i create a new one with what i need?
[15:01] <ActionPa1snip> fault3r: why not use it then: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/06/install-infinity-conky-in-ubuntulinux.html
[15:01] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ how did you make the live usb
[15:02] <ActionPa1snip> fault3r: https://launchpad.net/~noobslab/+archive/conky  nice PPA there
[15:02] <Rory> fixmypc956: edit it, it's just a file. Please read the link in !fstab above
[15:02] <fault3r> thanks philinux
[15:02] <kunaguvarun> philinux: I tried LiLi USB creator, YUMI, unetbootin. same error. I have used same disk for all the programs though
[15:03] <tovarish> is your usb key correct?
[15:03] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ have you checked the iso with md5sum
[15:03] <Rory> kunaguvarun: if the file you downloaded was corrupted it doesn't matter how many times you try. Can you check the md5sum using the link I gave you?
[15:04] <kunaguvarun> philinux: Rory I'm checking MD5 from the link provided. Will post the results in a while
[15:05] <kunaguvarun> MD5 checksums are the same. Result from winMD5sum program
[15:05] <tovarish> is your usb key broken?
[15:06] <kunaguvarun> philinux: I have BOOTICE with me. Do I repartition the device?
[15:06] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ try the stick in another machine
[15:06] <kunaguvarun> okay. I got another USB with me. I'll try with that stick
[15:07] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ silly question but can the bios boot from usb. Maybe a bios setting needs changing
[15:07] <Fiibar> hi , what does this do: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-create-a-ssl-certificate-on-apache-for-ubuntu-12-04 , giving me a https:// url? without buying a certificate? wildcard support?
[15:07] <kunaguvarun> philinux: What setting needs to be changed from BIOS?
[15:07] <Rory> Fiibar: It will be a self-signed certificate, so it will give you an error in a browser to that effect
[15:08] <Fiibar> is it save ?
[15:08] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ I've seen this recommended before "You need change your bios from IDE to ACHI"
[15:08] <kunaguvarun> philinux: There is no such setting in my BIOS
[15:08] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ ok that eleiminates that
[15:09] <Rory> Fiibar: A self-signed certificate error looks like this https://rory.sh:8112/
[15:09] <hawa> can i change the key for entering command mode in vim???
[15:09] <Rory> Fiibar: It's "safe" in that traffic will be encrypted, but only really safe for your users if they trust you
[15:09] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ try a diff usb socket
[15:10] <Fiibar> ok thx, itll pop up every visit, or?
[15:10] <kunaguvarun> I tried 2 sockets sp far
[15:10] <Pici> 70
[15:10] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ have u another machine? Or a friends
[15:10] <Fiibar> ah ok i see it now in chrome Rory :P
[15:10] <Rory> Fiibar: It'll pop up unless the user trusts it
[15:11] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ or another stick?
[15:11] <kunaguvarun> philinux: Nope, but I'll try with some other USB stick. I've done different Linux distro installations several times with the same USB stick
[15:11] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ maybe format the stick
[15:12] <philinux> first
[15:12] <kunaguvarun> philinux: Of course. I did that
[15:12] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ how do you check its got a boot flag from windows
[15:13] <WHAT_UP> my user is in the www-data group, and i ran "sudo chmod g+w ." on a certain directory where every file is owned by www-data:www-data . Why does the user get "Permission denied." when trying to edit files?
[15:13] <WHAT_UP> "sudo chmod g+w . -R", rather
[15:13] <kunaguvarun> philinux: I don't know. It can boot. I can choose the option to install or try options from Unetbootin menu. The problem is after that stage
[15:13] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ ah ok choose "check the disk"
[15:14] <kunaguvarun> philinux: Hmm. I didn't try that. Will try this time I boot
[15:14] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ thats not the unetbbotin menu thats the usb os itself
[15:15] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ so it boots but hangs?
[15:15] <kunaguvarun> philinux: Yes
[15:15] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ well choose the check the disk option first
[15:16] <kunaguvarun> philinux: sure
[15:16] <philinux> kunaguvarun;~ first thing i always do
[15:16] <WHAT_UP> what do i do if "groups $USER" != "groups" ?
[15:17] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP: did you log the user out and back in, since making the change?
[15:17] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: no. i guess now that's necessary?
[15:17] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP: yes, group memebership is ONLY determined at login
[15:18] <WHAT_UP> zykotick9: :D thanks. what's the purpose for that, by the way?
[15:19] <zykotick9> WHAT_UP: that's the way it's always been... don't know the details myself
[15:19] <gr33n7007h> I know this is a little off topic but anyone know of any games that are quite addicting eg, neverputt, nikwi etc...
[15:20] <xangua> !ot | gr33n7007h
[15:21] <outlaw84> Hey, I am fighting with getting a NIC to work, I finally got the driver built and loaded, in "lshw -C network" it now shows up as DISABLED with logical name "eth0" but when I try to run "ifup eth0" I get ignoring unknown interface, what do I need to do to enabled the NIC?
[15:21] <genii> outlaw84: Try iconfig eth0 up
[15:22] <genii> outlaw84: ifconfig eth0 up ...rather (typo)
[15:22] <outlaw84> genii: worked great, thanks :)
[15:22] <frog__> hello
[15:23] <frog__> i got problem with xephyr and KDM
[15:23] <frog__> I wanna make new xserver with xephyr
[15:23] <outlaw84> genii: I am supprised I thought ifup/ifdown where the basic "real" commands, well well :)
[15:23] <frog__> Xephyr :1
[15:23] <frog__> and inside this Xephyr window
[15:23] <frog__> start KDM (login screen)
[15:23] <frog__> and be able to remote login via XDMCP
[15:23] <frog__> to another computer in my local netword
[15:23] <frog__> is this possible?
[15:25] <Rory> frog__: The key you want is comma, not Enter
[15:26] <apm1> is mir 100% implemented in 13.10 ?
[15:27] <Rory> frog__: I would assume it's possible, how far have you got?
[15:28] <DJones> !mir | apm1
[15:28] <sfan> hi
[15:28] <apm1> !wayland
[15:28] <philinux> apm1;~ mir is destined for 14.10
[15:29] <Rory> DJones: It isn't slated for inclusion in 14.04 any more
[15:29] <sfan> i'am a new in ubuntu
[15:29] <Rory> !ask
[15:29] <sfan> i'm a php programmer, and i change windows to ubuntu
[15:29] <sfan> i have question
[15:29] <frog__> I got configurerd XDMCP, when I start my system on login screen (KDM) I got option to chose "Remote Login", when I click it I see configured XDMCP servers (in my local network), and I can easly log into this machines
[15:29] <philinux> DJones;~ that factoid out of date now
[15:29] <sfan> in firefox, fonts is not similary as windows
[15:29] <sfan> so, how i can fix this
[15:30] <sfan> in ubuntu fonts is very small
[15:30] <Rory> sfan: Is it just Firefox you want to change the font size?
[15:30] <xangua> sfan: you can change fonts and unity configuration with ubuntu tweak http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[15:31] <frog__> Rory: Now im trying to configure Xephyr to be my xserver, and start there KDM with remote login option
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> [10:29:02] <Rory> DJones: It isn't slated for inclusion in 14.04 any more ---> really? I rather mir not be included in 14.04
[15:31] <sfan> yes
[15:31] <bazhang> ttf-mscorefonts-installer  <--- install that sfan
[15:31] <sfan> firefox not have windows fonts.
[15:31] <philinux> apm1;~ you can try mir in 13.10 by installing unity-system-compositor
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> sfan: and you couldn't google 'how to change font sizes in firefox browser in ubuntu'?
[15:31] <sfan> i try but size is still small
[15:31] <Ari-Yang> :/
[15:31] <sfan> dude
[15:32] <Rory> Ari-Yang: Here's an ars-technica article about the update http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/11/stability-first-ubuntus-mir-wont-replace-x-in-14-04-desktop/
[15:32] <sfan> i found solutions
[15:32] <philinux> apm1;~ it's not guaranteed to work and it may default to xmir
[15:32] <sfan> ttf and other
[15:32] <sfan> but font is still small
[15:32] <bazhang> !enter | sfan
[15:32] <apm1> philinux, i heard someone mention this  the other day that mir is supposed to be better for dual gpu performance ?
[15:32] <Rory> sfan: While holding the Ctrl key, press the + key repeatedly until the font reaches the desired size
[15:33] <apm1> kinda doesn't make sense to me philinux
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> sfan: take a look at the answers on this page
[15:33] <rwc2> trying to revert to original ubuntu driver in saucy.  are any suggestions here recommended here?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/301640/i-hosed-my-video-drivers-how-to-revert-to-default-in-ubuntu-12-04
[15:33] <rwc2> driver for graphics\*
[15:33] <philinux> apm1;~ no idea on that but you can try it. to check if running http://askubuntu.com/questions/330862/how-do-i-find-out-if-my-system-is-using-mir
[15:34] <apm1> philinux, thanks for the info man :)
[15:34] <philinux> apm1;~ after installing unity-system-compositor you need to restart unity with setsid unity
[15:34] <philinux> apm1;~ then do the check.
[15:35] <philinux> apm1`it's been left out of 14.04 as it's still not solid although you can test it in the same way
[15:35] <zykotick9> rwc2: 1) what video card (lspci -v | grep -i vga) and 2) how did you install the driver (by downloading something manually, or through ubuntu somehow)?
[15:36] <lapt0p> Can someone recommend me a book for basic bash commands, a strict one, without unnecessary info?
[15:36] <philinux> apm1;~ this netbook is running mir and i've not noticed a thing different
[15:36] <philinux> apm1;~ on 13.10
[15:38] <zykotick9> lapt0p: if you want to learn back, check out http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide and the other info on that page.  it's "THE" authroity basically, the folks in #bash are mighty knowledgable as well...
[15:38] <Silex> hello, on 12.04 when building custom amd64 packet I ahve this: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: can't parse dependency libssl1.0.0:i386
[15:38] <zykotick9> s/back/bash/
[15:40] <Silex> debian/control looks like this http://codepad.org/OXRTKAum
[15:40] <tirengarfio_> Ubuntu doesn't mount an external disk after plug it
[15:40] <Silex> I tried to add [amd64] to the offending libs without success
[15:41] <lapt0p> zykotick9: Thanks
[15:41] <tirengarfio_> It is shown in "Disk" but I can not see in in the file browser
[15:42] <tirengarfio_> any help?
[15:42] <Ontani> Hi, i'm having an issue running apache2, netxserv is running on the same port, how do I remove or disable this?
[15:43] <Ontani> apt-get remove netxserv won't work
[15:44] <rwc2> zykotick9, Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller] ... downloaded from ati/amd website.
[15:44] <lapt0p> Why is print server, called "print server". Why "server"? Because it *serves* the printer with some data (text to be printed)?
[15:44] <zykotick9> rwc2: i can't/won't help.  good luck.
[15:44] <tirengarfio_> Ontani, have you tried sudo service netxserv stop?
[15:45] <hurdorbsd> k
[15:45] <tirengarfio_> Ontani, or have you tried sudo service apache stop to stop apache
[15:45] <SASDOE> tirengarfio_: you want to know how to mount a disk?
[15:45] <hurdorbsd> what is linux-libre?
[15:45] <tirengarfio_> SASDOE, yes
[15:45] <zykotick9> hurdorbsd: linux kernel without non-free blobs
[15:47] <Ontani> tirengarfio_ port 80 is used by netxserv
[15:48] <lapt0p> Why is print server, called "print server". Why "server"? Because it *serves* the printer with some data (text to be printed)?
[15:48] <tirengarfio_> so try to stop it
[15:48] <tirengarfio_> as I said before
[15:48] <kkkkkkk> hi all, how to disable auto numlock at startup
[15:48] <hurdorbsd> rkhunter
[15:48] <Rory> kkkkkkk: Look in your system BIOS settings
[15:48] <kkkkkkk> everytime i start my laptop, numlock key get on
[15:48] <hurdorbsd> it is simple put off your numlock
[15:49] <Rory> kkkkkkk: That is nothing to do with ubuntu, windows or any other OS
[15:49] <kkkkkkk> No setting in the BIOS
[15:49] <Ontani> apache isn't running...
[15:49] <Ontani> why would I stop it
[15:49] <Rory> kkkkkkk: I'm sorry to hear that
[15:50] <hurdorbsd> everyone's pc is default to put on the num lock when you start it
[15:51] <hurdorbsd> I want Ubuntu + Puppy
[15:51] <tirengarfio_> SASDOE, when I run sudo fdisk -l   the disk is not shown, but I can find it in "Disks" utility..
[15:51] <kkkkkkk> No i am using a laptop, keyboard does not have numeric keypad, numlock gets on with help of fn key
[15:51] <Fudus> Try to add "greeter-setup-script=/usr/bin/numlockx off" at the end in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:51] <kkkkkkk> i turn it off with help of function key
[15:51] <tirengarfio_> I have run "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media" and I get this: http://pastebin.com/N6JHJG9b
[15:52] <xangua> hurdorbsd: isn't puppy based on ubuntu¿
[15:52] <Fudus> http://askubuntu.com/questions/67952/numlockx-no-longer-works-after-upgrade-to-11-10 except turn to off instead of on
[15:52] <Fudus> to kkkkkkk
[15:52] <hurdorbsd> upup
[15:52] <kkkkkkk> fudus: thanks
[15:52] <zykotick9> tirengarfio_: fyi you DON'T want to be mounting to /media directly... things get automounted benith that, i'd suggest /mnt for temp/testing
[15:53] <magmatt> I've got an upstart script that when stopped doesn't stop all the child processes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6484975/  This shows the problem: http://bpaste.net/show/yS98t42s9ki5umrFFDoG/
[15:53] <Ontani> when running netstat -lnp | grep ':80 ' i'm getting: tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      1194/netxserv
[15:54] <magmatt> why aren't all the child processes being killed?
[15:54] <GuybrushThreepwo> Anyone still here that was helping me before
[15:54] <tirengarfio_> zykotick9, so how should I modify my commands? sudo mount -r ntfs /dev/sdb1 /tmp/testing ?
[15:54] <hurdorbsd> Ubuntu latest would use 3.13 ?? which isn't available yet?
[15:54] <magmatt> oh, maybe this isn't the place for upstart questions... I'll ask in #upstart
[15:56] <hurdorbsd> is a Ubuntu a linux-libre ?
[15:58] <Rory> !linux | hurdorbsd
[15:59] <Fudus> hurdorbsd: No
[16:02] <hggdh> hurdorbsd: the current in-development Ubuntu (Trusty, to be 14.04 LTS) *may* use linux 3.13, if 3.13 is released in time.
[16:04] <xsalvo53> cd $HOME
[16:04] <xsalvo53> find . -iname 'buduscript_*.tar.gz'
[16:05] <xsalvo53> ./Scaricati/buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz
[16:05] <DJones> xsalvo53: This is not the terminal you were looking for
[16:05] <xsalvo53> cd ./Scaricati/
[16:05] <LayAnotherBlock> How do i change my aspect ratio in Ubuntu?
[16:05] <xsalvo53> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[16:06] <Fudus> #ubuntu, the new Console
[16:06] <xsalvo53> cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript
[16:06] <xsalvo53> ./install.sh
[16:06] <merculiv> there a supportchannel for ubuntu touch?
[16:06] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-touch
[16:06] <xsalvo53> $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so -> $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/budus.so
[16:07] <xsalvo53> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:08] <jhutchins_wk> xsalvo53: You're typing your commands in the wrong window.
[16:08] <AffiliateOwnz> **Earn 0.25$ Per Lead **. For Details:http://www.StillRemember.Net/Affiliate.htm
[16:08] <xsalvo53> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:09] <zykotick9> tirengarfio_: sorry i have no idea about ntfs mounting (i think you need more options then you showed above!), but mount to /tmp
[16:09] <zykotick9> hurdorbsd: no ubuntu is NOT using linux-libre...
[16:11] <ActionPa1snip> hurdorbsd: trisquel is ubuntu-based and linux libre according to wikipedia
[16:12] <ActionPa1snip> hurdorbsd: its also not supported here
[16:13] <zztopless> hi everyone
[16:13] <kenetik_> zztopless: hi
[16:14] <impradeepy> hello
[16:14] <GuybrushThreepwo> Anyone still here that was helping me before?
[16:15] <kenetik_> GuybrushThreepwo: damn, back again? No luck?
[16:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> I tried doing the recovery thing, if I did it right, it didn't help.
[16:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> Update, though
[16:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> If I hit the power button after the display has shut off
[16:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> it immediately shows that same ubuntu loading screen
[16:16] <GuybrushThreepwo> then turns off
[16:17] <GuybrushThreepwo> so i guess it's not frozen completely
[16:17] <AffiliateOwnz> **Earn 0.25$ Per Lead **. For Details:http://www.StillRemember.Net/Affiliate.htm
[16:19] <kkkkkkk> anybody using pidgin here?
[16:20] <zykotick9> !anyone | kkkkkkk
[16:20] <zztopless> hey kenetik, impradeepy
[16:20] <kkkkkkk> i am not able to connect to my facebook
[16:20] <kkkkkkk> using pidgin, and i am supplying the right password
[16:20] <kkkkkkk> but it says not authorized
[16:21] <kkkkkkk> why this is happening with pidgin
[16:21] <kenetik_> zztopless: hey how are ya
[16:21] <kenetik_> kkkkkkk: what server are you using as the connection
[16:21] <kkkkkkk> is facebook plugin is broken
[16:21] <kkkkkkk> chat.facebook.com
[16:21] <kenetik_> Port?
[16:21] <kkkkkkk> let me see
[16:21] <jhutchins_wk> kkkkkkk: Facebook changes their protocols and doesn't tell anybody.
[16:22] <zztopless> who wants to entertain me?  3:20am, can't sleep until a backup I'm doing finishes and I can format and install the os on a machine for a client :/
[16:22] <kenetik_> zztopless: i'll let you entertain me =)
[16:22] <tirengarfio_> zykotick9, why should I mount to /tmp instead of /media for example?
[16:22] <kkkkkkk> no port mentioned here in basic settings
[16:22] <gswain> Im trying to use ip_conntrack_ftp or nf_conntrack_ftp - i installed conntrack with apt but when i lsmod I don't see any modules, how can I install conntrack_ftp?
[16:22] <vatsmonroe> hey there guys ive been having troubles all day fortunatly ive solved them however im a little bit worried about this /home/d1zrupt3d/Pictures/Screenshot from 2013-11-27 08:19:46.png what i did was fix the sudo bug editing the host file but now im scared lol
[16:22] <kkkkkkk> port is mentioned in advanced
[16:22] <kenetik_> kkkkkkk: go to advanced tab, try port 5222 and uncheck require ssl
[16:22] <zztopless> well, sleep deprivation does have similar effects to alchohol
[16:22] <zykotick9> tirengarfio_: the automounter mounts under /media /media/UUID type thing, if you mount to /media then something won't be right...
[16:23] <vatsmonroe> my bad lol
[16:23] <kkkkkkk> same
[16:23] <kkkkkkk> 5222 is there
[16:23] <kkkkkkk> and use encryption if available
[16:23] <kkkkkkk> but still no success
[16:23] <kenetik_> kkkkkkk: https://www.facebook.com/sitetour/chat.php << click pidgin
[16:24] <kkkkkkk> what should be the file transfer procies
[16:24] <kkkkkkk> proxies*
[16:24] <kenetik_> none
[16:25] <gswain> does anyone know how to install nf_conntrack_ftp on 12.04?
[16:25] <kenetik_> kkkkkkk: or just get this: http://url.phsrvr.com/hv3lxA
[16:25] <zztopless> I both love and hate living across the road from a 7/11 (and KFC, but mercifully, that is shut at this hour)
[16:25] <francisquare> who can give me terminal command to move all folder recursively but files without stay?
[16:25] <francisquare> without folder*
[16:26] <xsalvo53>  /budus macro setup
[16:27] <Surkow|laptop> hi. I finally managed to install ubuntu 13.10 by upgrading from 13.04 (otherwise I'd end up with a non bootable kernel).
[16:27] <zztopless> The finally have a nearly sugar free slurpie... seem to have little ability to resist (even if it's too damn cold for nearly December)
[16:28] <bazhang> !ot | zztopless
[16:28] <zztopless> lol, was just typinh 'what is the name of the off-topic channel
[16:28] <zztopless> thanks
[16:28] <Surkow|laptop> however, I don't seem to be able to make use of the netbios name of my NAS. I'm getting "mount: error could not resolve address for..""
[16:29] <vatsmonroe> can you tell me what this means (gksudo : 20575): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap".... Clling Inhibit failed: GDBus.Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[16:29] <Surkow|laptop> despite having added "wins" to /etc/nsswitch.conf and having installed cifs utils
[16:30] <Surkow|laptop> oh and I also installed windbind. All of this was previously enough to be able to mount devices based on netbios names, instead of IP.
[16:31] <Surkow|laptop> what is the proper procedure to be able to mount smb shares via netbios name?
[16:31] <gswain> is there a prefix kernel modules start with in apt if i was going to search for installable kernel modules?
[16:33] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: Most kernel modules are part of the kernel package.  What are you looking for?
[16:34] <gswain> nf_conntrack_ftp
[16:34] <gswain> lsmod nothing is there
[16:34] <gswain> if i mod probe nf_conntrack_ftp i get an error saying it doesn't exist
[16:35] <gswain> same thing with ip_conntrack_ftp
[16:35] <gswain> also if i  ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[16:35] <gswain> i just have one file
[16:35] <gswain> modules.dep
[16:36] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: Perhaps it's a further attempt to discoruage people from running ftp.
[16:36] <yomu> hello
[16:36] <gswain> trust me if my use case allowed me to run sftp instead i would
[16:37] <gswain> but in edu a lot of things I have to integrate that are not in my control are very old
[16:37] <yomu> I want a help.
[16:37] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: Do you have ip_contrack_ftp?
[16:38] <gswain> no don't have that unfortunately
[16:38] <m1sf1t> yomu: we need more information :)
[16:38] <gswain> FATAL: Module ip_conntrack_ftp not found.
[16:38] <gswain> FATAL: Module nf_conntrack_ftp not found.
[16:38] <ActionPa1snip> Surkow|laptop: you could add the resolution in /etc/hosts to make it use the name ok
[16:40] <kry> Hallo
[16:40] <yomu> hello
[16:40] <yomu> I need some help.
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: try kmod-ipt-nathelper
[16:40] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: You might also want to look at the apt-file package to locate files.
[16:40] <m1sf1t> yomu: care to explain your situation?
[16:40] <CookieM> yomu be specific
[16:40] <kry> I've tried to install WINE on ubuntu, and I got a Microsoft TrueType font license agreement, but I can't accept it in any way
[16:41] <kry> I mean, there is no button to accept it
[16:41] <xangua> kry tab
[16:41] <kry> xangua: thanks, it worked
[16:41] <gswain> FATAL: Module kmod_ipt_nathelper not found.
[16:42] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: That is an Ubuntu package, not a module.  It may contain the module you need.
[16:42] <yomu> hi
[16:43] <gswain> jhutchins_wk that package does not exist
[16:43] <faryshta> hi. I am trying to edit UML files. I tried umbrello and dia. is there any other tool i can use?
[16:44] <zykotick9> !ask | yomu
[16:44] <CHC_Admin> Hi All
[16:44] <gswain> this is 12.04 maybe its doesn't exist in this repo?
[16:45] <ademoglu> guys i started my pc from usb live and now i cant acces my hdd ? how can i accces my hdd ?
[16:45] <client> How do I update a piece of software from the software center? The software I downloaded is 2 years old
[16:45] <client> ademoglu you need to mount the HDD
[16:45] <nickname_you_wan> my system is 64 bit.
[16:46] <zykotick9> !latest > client
[16:46] <CHC_Admin> Does anyone know how to add plugins to nagios3 64-bit mint cinnamon.  I am trying to make the check_updates command work, all other nrpe commands are working.
[16:46] <ademoglu> client:  i adready mount it
[16:47] <ActionPa1snip> CHC_Admin: mint isnt supported here
[16:47] <client> zykotick9 this is a small piece of software
[16:47] <CHC_Admin> thx....ill try debian my bad
[16:47] <client> ademoglu is it visible?
[16:47] <ActionPa1snip> !mint | CHC_Admin try the channel for your distro
[16:47] <ademoglu> client: no ist invisible Smokin_Gun
[16:47] <CHC_Admin> thx
[16:48] <rypervenche> gswain: What kernel are you using?
[16:48] <ademoglu> sorry invisible
[16:48] <Smokin_Gun> ademoglu nothing on the desktop?
[16:48] <Guest82053> hello...I have been on this terminal for 16 hours and I still have no answers
[16:48] <rypervenche> gswain: Also, what version of Ubuntu?
[16:48] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: wassup?
[16:48] <Smokin_Gun> or the file manager?
[16:49] <Surkow|laptop> Guest82053, what was your question?
[16:49] <Guest82053> I am on a rescue disk, my install has no usb or ethernet connection
[16:49] <Guest82053> I cannot figure out why
[16:49] <gswain> rypervenche: uname -r 3.11.6-x86_64-linode35
[16:49] <gswain> 12.04
[16:50] <Surkow|laptop> Guest82053, you tried installing 13.10? Perhaps you can try 13.04?
[16:50] <ademoglu> Smokin_Gun: i started system live, and i want to back up my datas from hdd to a usb disk but i cant see my hdd
[16:50] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: how do you mean 'rescue disk'?
[16:51] <Surkow|laptop> he probably means something like a live environment from cd
[16:51] <Smokin_Gun> weird that ubuntu can't see an HDD.
[16:51] <Guest82053> I'm booted through the 13.10  boot disk
[16:51] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: ok, what are you trying to achieve?
[16:51] <Guest82053> I have ethernet and USB here but when I go to my install ..nothing
[16:52] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: oh so you wnat to install the OS to a drive using the liveCD?
[16:52] <ademoglu> Smokin_Gun: what can i do ?
[16:52] <Guest82053> yes, that is what I have done
[16:52] <zykotick9> ademoglu: can you paste the output of either "sudo parted -l" (if you use GPT) or "sudo fdisk -l" (in MSDOS)
[16:52] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: ok so the ubuntu OS is installed to the drive, where is the problem?
[16:52] <zykotick9> s/in MSDOS/if MSDOS/
[16:52] <Guest82053> I just have no ethernet or usb
[16:53] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: ok, what Ethernet chip are you using?
[16:53] <Guest82053> realtek
[16:53] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: which realtek?
[16:53] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: sudo lshw -C network      will tell you
[16:54] <jhutchins_wk> gswain: Unfortunately I don't have great resources for tracking this down.  You could try the "conntrack" package, which may be a generic replacement, or look for "netfilter" packages that might relate.
[16:54] <rypervenche> gswain: If the module does not exist and it's not already built into your kernel, you'll need to fix your kernel.
[16:54] <Guest82053> sorry it is Broadcom
[16:54] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: what broadcom?
[16:55] <Guest82053> BCM4313
[16:55] <gswain> yea i install conn track before i came here
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: thats a wireless chip, not ethernet
[16:55] <ademoglu> zykotick9: its error "Error: Both the primary and back up GPT tables are corrupt. Try making a  refresh table, and using Parteds, rescue to recover partitipns."
[16:55] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: are you having issues with wireless, or is it wired (ethernet)
[16:55] <Guest82053> Ethernet RTL8111
[16:55] <gswain> rypervenche yea looking that way, I'm just kind of new to ubuntu and I don't have all the ubuntuisms down yet, it also looks like linode rolls its own kernel >.<
[16:56] <gswain> so its anybodies guess
[16:56] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: ok and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:56] <zykotick9> ademoglu: best of luck!  i have NO idea regarding that error... sorry.
[16:56] <Guest82053> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[16:57] <ademoglu> anyone help me for acces the my hdd ?
[16:57] <rypervenche> gswain: Are you on OpenVZ?
[16:57] <gswain> I'm pretty sure linode uses xen
[16:57] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: try:   sudo modprobe r8169     does it start working?
[16:58] <faryshta> hi. I am trying to edit UML files. I tried umbrello and dia. is there any other tool i can use?
[16:58] <Guest82053> I get no feedback when command issued...I guess I would need to go back to install and try it out
[16:59] <Guest82053> at
[16:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: no output mean success
[16:59] <Guest82053> at least it will give me an avenue to try
[16:59] <Smilex> I seem to have deleted the Ubuntu Unity DE, as I can't choose it when I login. How do I get it back? I tried installing the package 'unity8'
[16:59] <Guest82053> ok great...ty for your help
[16:59] <ActionPa1snip> Guest82053: try:  sudo dhclient eth0     do you get a web connection?
[16:59] <ademoglu> guys help me for acces the hdd
[17:00] <Smilex> faryshta, yEd is great
[17:00] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: unity isnt a DE, it's a shell. Its a plugin for compiz. Gnome is still the DE
[17:00] <Guest82053> RTNETLINK answers: file exists
[17:00] <xangua> Smilex: how did you remove it¿ tried to install ubuntu-desktop ¿
[17:00] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: Unity8 isnt in the official repos, where did you get it from?
[17:00] <faryshta> Smilex: thanks, let me try. does it run on windows too
[17:00] <faryshta> ?
[17:01] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, I find it by running 'apt-cache search unity'
[17:01] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: and what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:01] <ActionPa1snip> !info unity
[17:01] <Guest82053> ty for the help!
[17:01] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: Saucy is ver 7.1
[17:02] <Smilex> xangua, I believe I removed it by logging into the GNOME (No effects) option, and then running 'sudo apt-get autoremove'
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> Guest43029: did it work ok?
[17:02] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: then you will have unity 7.1, not 8
[17:03] <Smilex> ok, wait a sec
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: if you run:   sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -l | grep unity | awk {'print $2'}`
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: it will reinstall all packages with 'unity' in them, may help
[17:04] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, will I get the option to login to the regular Ubuntu, instead of GNOME?
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: you should get the session option again
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: worth a shot
[17:06] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, http://sprunge.us/TSbC <- That's the result of apt-cache search unity. Look down the bottom, there's unity8
[17:06] <faryshta> Smilex: can't find yEd on repos
[17:06] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: what is the full output of:   apt-cache policy unity8
[17:07] <ActionPa1snip> !info unity8
[17:07] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: seems to be from the oficia repos
[17:07] <Smilex> faryshta, there's a .deb installation file on their website. Just Google yEd
[17:08] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, http://hastebin.com/febotodoge.sm
[17:08] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: you can always make your own session under /usr/share/xsessions :)
[17:09] <faryshta> http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_download.html there is a .sh file. i think i will try with that
[17:10] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, well I'm reinstalling compiz, so I guess a lot of stuff is missing. Also your command didn't work.
[17:10] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: how so?
[17:11] <Smilex> ActionPa1snip, http://hastebin.com/kojucayequ.vhdl
[17:11] <ActionPa1snip> Smilex: looks like you have a few packages from PPAs or other sources
[17:16] <ginsun> Hi
[17:18] <bria_____> on 13.10 server, how do you restart the networking service ?
[17:19] <AlanBell> bria_____: sudo service networking restart
[17:20] <bria_____> thanks AlanBell
[17:20] <nickname_you_wan> hello
[17:22] <nickname_you_wan> hello
[17:22] <faryshta> hi. I am trying to edit UML files. I tried umbrello, yed and dia. is there any other tool i can use?
[17:26] <gome> hello
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> faryshta: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/168512/best-free-professional-looking-uml-tool
[17:26] <gome> I want help
[17:26] <gome> for ubantu 64 bit.
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> gome: ask away
[17:26] <gome> so .
[17:27] <gome> how can i download through torrent.
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> gome: transmission is part of a ddefault ubuntu install
[17:28] <tmmunq> gome: ktorrent or transmission
[17:28] <gome> ktorrent.
[17:29] <tmmunq> transmission is very simple, but ktorrent is very unstable
[17:29] <tonyt> uget is another one
[17:29] <LjL> i don't remember ktorrent ever crashing on me
[17:29] <m1sf1t_> if you want a cli, rtorrent is a good one. i use that.
[17:29] <tmmunq> it spontaneously stops downloading and uploading, i have to restart it
[17:31] <gome> so plese let me know how to download through torrent.
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> transmission + web UI + torrent-fu on Android :)
[17:32] <ActionPa1snip> gome: open a torrent file with transmission and it will download
[17:32] <fish_> hi
[17:33] <gome> yes <ActionPa1snip>
[17:33] <m1sf1t_> fish_: hey :)
[17:34] <RocketPenguin_> IS this the place for help on Ubuntu 13.04?
[17:34] <fish_> I have thinkpad x1 carbon running raring. the touchscreen works fine with the primary display, but after attaching a second screen all the touch positions are off since the output it streched across two screen but the input is only one the left screen
[17:34] <ActionPa1snip> RocketPenguin_: yes, til mid january next year
[17:34] <m1sf1t_> RocketPenguin: yepp
[17:34] <RocketPenguin_> Ok.
[17:34] <brian_> When i do a networking restart inside my vm (bridged), it's not grabbing a dhcp address.
[17:34] <brian_> any ideas?
[17:35] <fish_> I've read about X's input coordinate transfomation matrix but I hoped there is a more automatic way to fix this
[17:35] <RocketPenguin_> Well, i have a really weird issue.
[17:35] <RocketPenguin_> Involving graphics
[17:35] <RocketPenguin_> Ubuntu Desktop Environment
[17:35] <RocketPenguin_> And Skiddles.
[17:35] <ActionPa1snip> RocketPenguin_: ease off on teh ENTER key please
[17:35] <RocketPenguin_> Actually, no skiddles.
[17:36] <RocketPenguin_> Alright, here it goes: I was having some really weird issues with my desktop, everything glitching, lagging, and like the old windows 98, the windows that i had open left trails
[17:36] <m1sf1t_> brian_: have you tried using a static ip rather than dhcp?
[17:36] <RocketPenguin_> This was while i was on Ubuntu 12.04
[17:37] <brian_> i have not.
[17:37] <brian_> it's 13.10 server, btw
[17:37] <RocketPenguin_> Then, i upgraded to 12.10 or whatever it was, and then immediately to 13.04 thinking it would fix the issue
[17:37] <m1sf1t_> brian_: that may well work, because after you restart, with dhcp, you are assigned a new ip
[17:38] <RocketPenguin_> And it only made it worse. Ubuntu Desktop environment has no unity, the desktop is black, and the files i have on my desktop are poor resoultion and over sized
[17:38] <m1sf1t_> sorry, gotta go! good luck :)
[17:38] <molgrum> i have a question about humble indie bundle games, i can download the games through the software center but when i click "download for ubuntu" there's no program in the list to open the url with. what do i do?
[17:38] <RocketPenguin_> I tried to use Cinnamon, but it crashed every time, and it place me onto gnome fallback
[17:38] <RocketPenguin_> Also with a black screen.
[17:38] <molgrum> do i just go to /usr/bin/software-center?
[17:39] <RocketPenguin_> Another thing, i just swapped my hdd into another laptop with different graphics, if that is of any use to whoever decides to help me.
[17:39] <brian_> misfit, i should get assigned by dhcp after restarting the networking services though.
[17:39] <RocketPenguin_> Anyone have any ideas?
[17:39] <brian_> i shouldn't have to reboot the machine, right?
[17:41] <ss_haze> I installed steam in ubuntu since last time it went nuts and I couldn't login my user, but now S3TC texture support is missing
[17:41] <ss_haze> for CS SOURCE
[17:41] <ss_haze> it was only game I played and it worked
[17:41] <ss_haze> ..
[17:41] <zykotick9> brian_: how are you restarting the network?  if you notice, "sudo service networking restart" gives a message about being deprecated...  you may have to ifdown/ifup the device...
[17:41] <brian_> ifdown?
[17:42] <brian_> what should i use instad of service networking ...
[17:42] <brian_> ?
[17:42] <RocketPenguin_> Anyone know how to resolve black screen broken unity buggy/not working desktop environments?
[17:42] <zykotick9> brian_: you the way you currently are.  BUT, if it doesn't work, then ifdown, then ifup, the interface - and see if that works
[17:42] <zykotick9> s/you/use/
[17:43] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having some serious trouble with login on an ASUS G46VW. 4 out of 5 times when I login, I get only a black screen and nothing more. The xsession-errors only has these contents: http://pastebin.com/kJjqNTj0
[17:43] <brian_> and for ubuntu13.10 server , how should i go about installing guest additions on the vm ?
[17:44] <ss_haze> anyone knows steam for linux irc channel
[17:44] <brian_> im seing virutalbox-guest-additions-iso, and virtualbox-guest-dkms, and some others.
[17:44] <zykotick9> ss_haze: #steamlug
[17:44] <TiZ> Strange thing is, xsession-errors looks like that even when I log in successfully.
[17:44] <nickname_you_wan> hello
[17:44] <brian_> ss_haze: i thought it was ubuntu-steam
[17:45] <gr33n7007h> ss_haze, /msg alis list *steam*
[17:45] <bazhang> !steam | ss_haze
[17:45] <RocketPenguin_> Every time i boot, it brings up the messge "File not found, press enter to continue" How do i resolve this?
[17:47] <EM255E37> hi dougl
[17:47] <EM255E37> hi lalala_oops
[17:47] <pome> how can I download Ubuntu 13.10 through torrent.
[17:47] <EM255E37> hi zandy_
[17:47] <EM255E37> hi floridsdorf
[17:48] <floridsdorf> hi
[17:48] <EM255E37> hi bazhang
[17:48] <jhutchins_wk> RocketPenguin_: figure out what is looking for which file.
[17:49] <Sh1G3rU> pome,  go here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ do down and grab  grab the torrent file
[17:50] <RocketPenguin_> jhutchins_wk, Huh?
[17:51] <RocketPenguin_> jhutchins_wk,  I do not understand.
[17:51] <Ontani> Hi, is there a way to track down a process from where it started?
[17:53] <Ontani> i've been looking into /proc/<pid> but not finding the information needed
[17:55] <brian_> it doesn't appear to grab a dhcp address when Im in bridged mode in my vm
[17:55] <brian_> im getting a 10.0.0.30 address, which clearly isn't a local dhcp adddy
[17:56] <linuxuz3r> hi
[17:57] <linuxuz3r> i am thinking of compiling packages from a repo is there a debian package manager out there
[17:57] <linuxuz3r> package maker
[17:57] <linuxuz3r> ubuntu i mean
[17:58] <Sh1G3rU> linuxuz3r,  apt-get source --compile
[17:59] <Sh1G3rU> and yes it is dpkg-buildpackage
[18:00] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks
[18:00] <interrider1> hello everybody
[18:02] <interrider1> i really need a hand,i'm ready to put gun to my head.i have a g4 apple i having pro.putting in any kind of software can someone a anw.a couple ?
[18:02] <zykotick9> Ontani: does pstree help?
[18:03] <ikonia> interrider1: be aware that ubuntu's PPC build it pretty much dead
[18:04] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[18:04] <interrider1> thanks i understand that.the problem is the g4 won't take no linux no software at all
[18:05] <Ontani> zykotick9: root@monitor:/# pstree 1175netxservâââ2*[{netxserv}]
[18:05] <Ontani> guess not much
[18:05] <interrider1> it wont start any software no install
[18:07] <zykotick9> Ontani: <sidenote> you have no business being #
[18:08] <Ontani> I get that, its a thinclient which i'm trying to install a LAMP stack on
[18:08] <Ontani> only got root login
[18:09] <erek> Gobble Gobble
[18:09] <ikonia> Ontani: there shouldn't be a root login on ubuntu
[18:10] <Ontani> guess its a special build
[18:11] <Ontani> http://www.wyse.com/products/cloud-clients/thin-clients/T50
[18:11] <ikonia> Ontani: if it's a special build - it's not something this channel supports
[18:12] <client> Hello
[18:13] <Natalie-5274> Hi
[18:14] <client> Would it be a good idea for me to use the latest stable version of a piece of software if the software center has software that is 2 years old?
[18:14] <vooze> Anyone who can play Metro: Last light, with Intel GFX on Steam? I can't even start the game :/
[18:14] <ikonia> Razor_Edge: depends, what software are you looking at ?
[18:15] <Razor_Edge> A small application called: rednotebook
[18:15] <ikonia> Razor_Edge: is there a reason to not use the ubuntu version ?
[18:15] <Razor_Edge> There has been 15 version updates since the ubuntu version and some of them contain useful feature updates
[18:16] <ikonia> Razor_Edge: ok, so there is your answer
[18:16] <Natalie-5274> Are there any good online computer resellers that support Ubuntu?
[18:16] <ikonia> Natalie-5274: system76 ? dell ? there have been a few in the past,  but peoples views differ on how good they are
[18:17] <Razor_Edge> Natalie-5274 resellers? Or actual companies that sell hardware with ubuntu?
[18:17] <Natalie-5274> Razor_Edge: A company that builds and sells computers with Ubuntu. Also one that provides online support
[18:18] <bean> System76 is pretty good. Support can be a pain, but I've only seen a few faulty laptops
[18:18] <Razor_Edge> I know 1 that specifically sells Ubuntu laptops. Let me check
[18:19] <Natalie-5274> Razor_Edge: Yeah actual computer towers. Not laptops
[18:19] <Natalie-5274> I mean even though they're they same 'computer'.
[18:19] <molgrum> how do i check what command an icon executes in unity?
[18:20] <Razor_Edge> Natalie-5274 see here: http://linuxpreloaded.com/
[18:20] <CookieM> or "thinkpenguin"
[18:21] <Laurenceb> hi
[18:22] <Laurenceb> files from my windows machine have timestamps offset by an hour
[18:22] <Razor_Edge> Hello
[18:22] <Laurenceb> can anyone help?
[18:23] <jhutchins_wk> Laurenceb: Are both systems configured for the same time zone?
 yes
[18:24] <Laurenceb> GMT - UK time
[18:24] <iwi> hi there, is it possible to disable swap during unattended installation with kickstart ?
[18:24] <brian32> i did   #mount /dev/sdb /mnt/temp  and i  now i cant write files as a normal user but i can as root can some one help me?
[18:25] <Sh1G3rU> brian32,  sudo chown user:user /mnt/temp
[18:25] <jhutchins_wk> iwi: Why?  What are you trying to accomplish?
[18:25] <ubuntuaddicted> my virtualbox running a win7 guest is frozen, i can't click the start menu to shut the vm computer down. it also appears like the virtualbox window is frozen also. how do i gracefull shut down the vm
[18:26] <Sh1G3rU> ubuntuaddicted, killing the process maybe
[18:26] <brian32> Sh1G3rU:  that gets me chown: changing ownership of ‘/mnt/temp’: Operation not permitted
[18:26] <iwi> jhutchins_wk: i'm building a customized image for openstack and don't want to waist space for swap
[18:27] <Sh1G3rU> brian32,  are you using sudo?
[18:27] <ubuntuaddicted> Sh1G3rU, i know i can kill it. i want to shutdown the guest OS gracefully. not sure if there is some virtulbox command line command i can run
[18:27] <brian32> Sh1G3rU:  yessr  i copy pasted it changed username
[18:28] <Sh1G3rU> brian32, you still cant write?
[18:29] <brian32> Sh1G3rU: when i ran the command, it said not permited
[18:29] <brian32> Sh1G3rU: maybe i should be mounting it somewere else? like somewhere in my home dir?
[18:29] <Wizzikz> brian, add sudo to the beginning of the command
[18:29] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: VBoxManage controlvm "name of vm" acpipowerbutton   perhaps
[18:30] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: You'll have to configure the guest OS to shutdown when the power button is pressed
[18:30] <Wek> Can I install Ubuntu on my vibrator?
[18:30] <Sh1G3rU> brian32, yeah try that , try mounting on your home dir
[18:30] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, that wont work then cause it's frozen now.
[18:30] <bean> Wek: not appropriate
[18:30] <Wizzikz> Wek, yes, if it has a computer build in it
[18:30] <brian32> Wizzikz: http://paste.debian.net/68080/  xD
[18:31] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, it appears like virtual command gui is frozen also. i was trying to avoid killing the process but i think i may have to
[18:31] <brian_> there is a script called config_server.sh, but it wont let me execute it
[18:32] <brian_> it actually says command not found.
[18:32] <brian_> what is the chmod to make it executible
[18:32] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, ok, i just ran vboxmanage controlvm Win7 poweroff and it returns 0%...10%... but then is stuck there
[18:33] <axizor> hi, i'm new to linux and am having trouble installing a program via apt-get through command prompt
[18:33] <geirha> brian_: If the script is in the current directory, you need to run  ./config_server.sh   with out the path (./) it will search through the directories in the PATH variable instead.
[18:33] <brian_> ahh yea.
[18:33] <brian_> just realized that
[18:33] <brian_> thanks geirha
[18:33] <axizor> i'm just getting "E: Unable to locate package ps3mediaserver"
[18:33] <axizor> i've followed all the instructions and don't know what's wrong
[18:33] <bean> axizor: then it isn't in your repositories.
[18:33] <LayAnotherBlock> I'm having a problem with Kubuntu
[18:34] <axizor> i added it though
[18:34] <axizor> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver"
[18:34] <Whatcat> hola
[18:34] <bean> axizor: you added the PPA
[18:34] <High_Voltage> Hi anyone can help me with installing PyOpeNNi?
[18:34] <bean> axizor: did you apt-get update afterward?
[18:34] <High_Voltage> I have some errors
[18:34] <axizor> yes
[18:34] <Whatcat> who love anime?
[18:34] <bean> axizor: and which ubuntu version are you on?
[18:34] <axizor> 13.10
[18:34] <axizor> desktop
[18:34] <LayAnotherBlock> In Kubuntu, I'm having a problem logging in...
[18:35] <lnxslck> Whatcat, i love cake
[18:35] <bean> axizor: looks like that PPA doesn't have any packages for saucy
[18:35] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: Hm. I haven't encountered anything like that myself. Don't know what that could be, other than some bug with virtualbox itself.
[18:35] <Whatcat> And I love Hellsing
[18:35] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: #vbox might be able to help you more
[18:35] <Whatcat> Hellsing is the bestest anime.
[18:36] <LayAnotherBlock> Can somebody please help me??
[18:36] <Whatcat> with building?
[18:36] <LayAnotherBlock> With Kubuntu
[18:36] <Pici> !offtopic | Whatcat
[18:36] <Whatcat> just use Ubuntu Unity
[18:37] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, so would you normally just kill the process (sudo kill -9 VirtualBox)
[18:37] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, its been frozen for about 30 minutes, i don't see it coming back
[18:37] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: No, kill -9 is something you should never use. It's an absolute last resort
[18:38] <Whatcat> KDE is one big BUG
[18:38] <LayAnotherBlock> Where can i get help with Kubuntu?
[18:38] <Sh1G3rU> ubuntuaddicted,  unless you were doing something really important on your guest machine you have to kill the process
[18:38] <xangua> !behelpful | Whatcat
[18:38] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: Try kill without -9
[18:38] <Whatcat> like OpenOffice and VLC
[18:38] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, ok
[18:39] <fixmypc956> if i want to save all files to a directory on my 1tb hd, how do i do this?
[18:39] <fixmypc956> must i first make a directory on that hd and the mount it?
[18:40] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, that worked for all the process's but this one ubu       3163  0.1  0.1 765756 11284 ?        Sl   11:34   0:05 /usr/lib/virtualbox/VBoxSVC --auto-shutdown
[18:40] <Sh1G3rU> fixmypc956, connect the drive, if it doesnt mount automatically you have to mount it with the mount command (man mount ) then create the folder then copy on that folder your data
[18:41] <fixmypc956> use mount to check to see if the drive mounted?
[18:42] <geirha> fixmypc956: Assuming it has a filesystem, you have to mount it first, then create a directory to put the files in
[18:42] <ubuntuaddicted> Sh1G3rU, ok, i killed them all but now when I click on the app to start again, nothing happens but 3 new process's were spawned BUT no Vbox GUI to start my Win7 VM
[18:43] <ubuntuaddicted> last time this happened i had to start my machine. i shouldn't have to restart should I?
[18:43] <fixmypc956> ok and how can i find out if the drive has a filesystem
[18:43] <geirha> ubuntuaddicted: Hm. Seems to be a serious bug then, if it doesn't terminate when you send it SIGTERM
[18:43] <ubuntuaddicted> geirha, ok, i killed them all but now when I click on the app to start again, nothing happens but 3 new process's were spawned BUT no Vbox GUI to start my Win7 VM
[18:43] <Whatcat> ikonia why?
[18:43] <Sh1G3rU> ubuntuaddicted, probably the first proccess is not completely killed and it is still waiting for some child proccess to terminate
[18:44] <Whatcat> cry she banned me on offtopic
[18:44] <Whatcat> bad girl
[18:44] <ubuntuaddicted> Sh1G3rU, ok, i;ll just restart then I guess
[18:44] <Whatcat> how abuse?
[18:45] <geirha> fixmypc956: try mounting it, and if it succeeds, it has a filesystem
[18:45] <whoever> Whatcat:  what did you say to get banned from there ? did yoy say windows is superrior to linux
[18:45] <fixmypc956> well i entered mount -l and its not showing it
[18:45] <IdleOne> !behelpful
[18:46] <Whatcat> i said short poem
[18:46] <Whatcat> and she banned me
[18:47] <23LAAMW5W> hi guys i have dell vostro running 13.04. But i am not able to reduce screen brightness. does someone have solution on this?
[18:47] <whoever> Whatcat: or did you click your heels togethe three times and say "linus torvalds is not real"
[18:47] <NFD_> okay quick weird question time: i'm using nm-applet to manage connections and whatnot. Many options are grayed out, and trying to connect to a network pops up an error that says "Connection activation failed" and "(32) Not authorized to control networking."
[18:47] <IdleOne> whoever: enough with the jokes.
[18:48] <NFD_> basically, wat? the problem has persisted over reboots
[18:50] <Xonan> hialo
[18:50] <lapt0p> Can someone tell me, if i go to a certain path in the terminal, and i want to start the windows manager there, what should i write? I am using Xubuntu. Do i have to write: xfwm4?
[18:50] <Xonan> What is in Ubuntu ban evade?
[18:50] <Xonan> Gnome 3
[18:50] <lapt0p> Can someone tell me, if i go to a certain path in the terminal, and i want to start the file manager there, what should i write? I am using Xubuntu. Do i have to write: xfwm4?
[18:50] <Xonan> or 4
[18:51] <Xonan> on QT5
[18:51] <geirha> NFD_: What groups are your user a member of?
[18:51] <NFD_> uh lemme see
[18:52] <zykotick9> geirha: my guess - just one ;)
[18:53] <NFD_> geirha: (my account) adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare wireshark jupiter
[18:54] <zykotick9> geirha: i guessed wrong
[18:54] <NFD_> haha
[18:54] <SASDOE_> lapt0p: you could have an alias for something like alias example='filemanage -option $PWD
[18:55] <RocketPenguin> Who has the time and patience to help a fellow with shartload of errors and graphical issues?
[18:56] <NFD_> RocketPenguin: no promises, but what's up?
[18:56] <glitsj16> lapt0p: xfwm is a window manager, i guess you could try thunar `pwd` (note the backticks)
[18:56] <SASDOE_> lapt0p: just googled it, would be something in the likes of "alias example='nautilus $PWD'"
[18:56] <geirha> NFD_: Is polkit running? ps -ef|grep '[p]olkit'
[18:56] <jmgk> hello
[18:56] <ghostnik11> i need help getting acess to my bluetooth in ubuntu 13.04
[18:57] <RocketPenguin> NFD_,  Alright, first off, unity is not working, my desktop is black, and Ubuntu Desktop Environment is screwed up.
[18:57] <RocketPenguin> And i am getting a lot of error pop ups.
[18:57] <NFD_> tried running nautilus in a terminal?
[18:57] <geirha> lapt0p: xdg-open ./
[18:57] <ghostnik11> it says its on but when i go to it i can't access it and tell it to search for a device using bluetooth
[18:57] <ovrflw0x> i've vlc installed which uses libavcodec, i want libmp3lame encoder which is in libavcodec-extra-53 so can i replace former with latter?
[18:58] <ovrflw0x> i've vlc installed which uses **** libavcodec53 ****, i want libmp3lame encoder which is in libavcodec-extra-53 so can i replace former with latter?
[18:58] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, I have tried running a lot in terminal, but i am not sure about that
[18:58] <NFD_> geirha: root      1579     1  0 08:55 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/policykit-1/polkitd --no-debug
[18:58] <RocketPenguin> NFD_,  what would i run?
[18:58] <geirha> NFD_: but no  /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1  as your user?
[18:59] <NFD_> what might have happened is that nautilus may have crashed. that happened to me once or twice in my unity days
[18:59] <NFD_> just try running nautilus
[18:59] <NFD_> see what happens
[18:59] <Needsomehelp_> Guys, I need some help. I'm considering to step over completely to Ubuntu as my OS, but there is one feature that's holding my back from. Namely, the feature to tag files and find files back through tags, like Mac OS X 10.9 does.
[18:59] <NFD_> geirha: just root
[19:00] <geirha> NFD_: try running /usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1  as your user. See if that makes nm-applet happy
[19:00] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, It opened home, and left an error message in the terminal
[19:00] <ghostnik11> can someone help me get access to bluetooth device as, I don't have internet for long
[19:00] <NFD_> rocketpenguin: what's the error say?
[19:00] <chaotix> hello...  is it safe for me to install this application from source?  i have ubuntu 13.10
[19:00] <chaotix> https://launchpad.net/maya
[19:01] <chaotix> it is the elementary os calendar app
[19:01] <chaotix> i want to try it as i have heard great things about it
[19:01] <sovern> Is there any Linux soluition like logmein.com?
[19:02] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, http://pastebin.com/YYsUJVHQ
[19:02] <lapt0p> I don't know if my question is clear enough. I'll try again :) : Let's say i enter a certain path in the terminal emulator.  After that, i want to see that folder in a graphical user interface (with a graphical file manager, not a text-based like ls). What should i write in the terminal? I am using Xubuntu.
[19:02] <compdoc> sovern, remote desktop?
[19:02] <Sh1G3rU> sovern,  if you mean gui remote login there are plenty VNCs and x2go
[19:03] <sovern> Specifically; I have 1000 windows machines on LMI that I am trying to mvoe to linux.  VNC is a non-starter
[19:03] <NFD_> geirha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6485877/
[19:03] <NFD_> eww
[19:04] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, http://pastebin.com/YYsUJVHQ
[19:04] <compdoc> sovern, there is rdp
[19:04] <sovern> compdoc: does RDP work without a firewall hole?
[19:04] <compdoc> you need a port forwarded, or do the smart thing - vpn
[19:04] <chaotix> lapt0p, i would cd to that directory and then use the command for your file manager
[19:05] <geirha> lapt0p: xdg-open ./
[19:05] <chaotix> the command being 'nautilus' for nautilus, pcmanfm for pcmanfm,
[19:05] <lapt0p> chaotix: Thunar i suppose
[19:05] <glitsj16> lapt0p: crystal clear .. tried geirha's answer yet (asthat looks the more generic one)? --> xdg-open ./
[19:05] <geirha> NFD_: Hm. So dbus isn't running either. network manager uses dbus
[19:05] <NFD_> RocketPenguin: those errors don't look critical, so it probably ran?
[19:06] <NFD_> but it didn't fix your problem?
[19:06] <lapt0p> I am skeptical to use that, because i don't actually know what that means.
[19:06] <RocketPenguin> NFD_,  What do you mean, ran? Yes, it did open up home
[19:06] <NFD_> RocketPenguin: is this a fresh or old install?
[19:06] <lapt0p> Thanks for the help, anyway
[19:06] <NFD_> relatively speaking
[19:06] <glitsj16> lapt0p: xdg-open is a generic command that will open your default file-manager
[19:07] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, I installed about 2 years ago, but just updated 12.04 to 13.04 this morning
[19:07] <lapt0p> and why do i use ./ ?
[19:07] <glitsj16> lapt0p: no worries, it's a good attitude to ask if you don't know
[19:07] <NFD_> gotcha, the update blues :P
[19:07] <NFD_> you've got current graphics drivers?
[19:07] <glitsj16> lapt0p: ./ translates to 'open the directory where i am here in terminal'
[19:08] <lapt0p> glitsj16: Crystal clear, thanks :)
[19:08] <RocketPenguin> NFD_,  I tried to get correct graphics drivers (Just recently moved the HDD to another computer) But i dont think i was successful.
[19:08] <glitsj16> :)
[19:09] <NFD_> hmm, try sudo apt-get reinstall [packagename]
[19:09] <NFD_> see if that'll fix your drivers?
[19:09] <RocketPenguin> NFD_, Packagename being...?
[19:10] <NFD_> assuming you're getting them through apt
[19:10] <Wizzikz> Is it possible to relocate File Folders, like Documents or Music, on a different partition or drive?
[19:10] <NFD_> how did you fetch your drivers?
[19:10] <RocketPenguin> I have AMD ATI Radeon HD 4xxx gpu
[19:10] <cezal> quit
[19:10] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, Have you tried catalyst legacy PPA?
[19:11] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  Yes, The issue with that is it comes up with an error, telling me to look in my jockey log
[19:11] <RocketPenguin> I tried to follow tutorials to solve the issue, with no luck.
[19:11] <NFD_> geirha: grepped for dbus, got a handful of results
[19:12] <RocketPenguin> I would like to install catalyst legacy ppa, but with my issue, and no tutorial solving it, i have come here for help on that to. :P
[19:12] <NFD_> geirha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6485938/
[19:13] <NFD_> awesome master raec :P
[19:13] <Wizzikz> How do I relocate File Folders, like Documents or Music, on a different partition or drive?
[19:14] <NFD_> RocketPenguin: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx there's instructions there
[19:15] <apofis> RocketPenguin: check this: http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/10/how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy.html
[19:15] <apofis> RocketPenguin: no matter which version do u use I think ; in every case it should be very similar
[19:16] <apofis> btw: howdy :)
[19:16] <RocketPenguin> Hi.
[19:17] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:17] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, It looks like there is no legacy catalyst driver on 13.10
[19:17] <apofis> Wizzikz:  nano ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:17] <RocketPenguin> 13.04
[19:17] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, in fact, it appears that AMD doen't plan to ever release one either
[19:18] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, I am using 13.04
[19:18] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx 13.04 is supported.
[19:19] <apofis> RocketPenguin: u can also check this page https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[19:20] <RocketPenguin> Alright, working on installing graphic drivers.
[19:20] <roger_> I'm Spanish
[19:23] <N5DUX> is there a way to specify a particular peripheral to always detect as the same /dev/ttyUSB* device?
[19:23] <N5DUX> i have 2 serial devices plugged into USB adapters and i don't want to have to manually figure out which is which everytime I boot up.
[19:26] <Guest72930> hello
[19:26] <geirha> NFD_: Assuming you're uid 1000, that looks right. Don't know what could be up then :/
[19:26] <NFD_> yeah, it's weird as hell
[19:27] <nishanth> anyone know how i can find out what login manager i am using?
[19:27] <mr-digital> hey can someone help me with 12.04LTS sometimes it runs very very very slow and ihave to reboot because it all becomes non responsive
[19:27] <winb> mr-digital: are you using the 64bit version?
[19:28] <mr-digital> how can i check?
[19:28] <mr-digital> i don
[19:28] <mr-digital> i don't remember which i did
[19:28] <apofis> mr-digital: sue top to check what you OS is actually doing ; dmesg; should be useful
[19:28] <NFD_> geirha: i am 1000
[19:29] <geirha> NFD_: Is your username really long?
[19:29] <RocketPenguin> Alright, I will restart, and be back!
[19:30] <mr-digital> 3.2.0-29-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 27 17:03:23 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:30] <mr-digital> i did a uname -a
[19:30] <imperito> Hello #ubuntu, I'm running a 64 bit Ubuntu 13.10 and I'm trying to install the 32 bit version of the nvidia driver to play a game, but I'm getting an error message. Google keeps telling me to install "ia32-libs" but that's apparently not a thing.
[19:30] <NFD_> geirha: odd question, not really. about 10 characters
[19:30] <geirha> NFD_: Ah ok, that's long enough for ps not wanting to output it
[19:30] <imperito> The command I'm trying is "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current:i386" and the error I'm getting is "nvidia-current:i386 : Depends: nvidia-304:i386 but it is not going to be installed"
[19:30] <zykotick9> imperito: ahhh installing a 32bit nvidia driver makes no sense... you'd also need a 32bit xorg for that to work...
[19:31] <NFD_> geirha: it's nine
[19:31] <Pici> zykotick9: and a 32bit kernel...
[19:31] <zykotick9> Pici: maybe...
[19:31] <imperito> Ah, how would I go about running a 32 bit opengl application on my system then?
[19:31] <jhutchins_wk> !multiarch
[19:31] <NFD_> ran ps, didn't see my username
[19:31] <geirha> NFD_: I think ps sets the limit at 8. If it's longer, it writes the uid instead, to avoid messing up the columns
[19:32] <zykotick9> jhutchins_wk: i searched for a multiarch factoid a while ago... i didn't find any ;)
[19:32] <NFD_> but that doesn't make sense
[19:32] <imperito> I was able to install the 32 bit version of SDL and libgtk by putting :i386 after the package name
[19:32] <Pici> imperito: YOu should just be able to use your normal drivers with that.
[19:32] <NFD_> lemme see, what flags should i throw at it?
[19:32] <jimgroth> Hi guys.
[19:33] <jimgroth> I've got a problem with samba. I got read-only access even though I've set it to write access (I think).
[19:33] <imperito> Perhaps I'm being imprecise. The driver isn't specifically the problem, it is the shared libraries that come with it
[19:34] <NFD_> geirha: yeah, it just says that stuff is being run by 1000 when i look at ps
[19:34] <imperito> If I try to run the application, it tells me it can't find a libGLU.so, which makes sense because I don't have a 32 bit version of it
[19:34] <NFD_> geirha: but how would that break NetworkManager?
[19:35] <zykotick9> imperito: (i see to recall, perhaps incorrectly) that it was possible to install some nvidia-glx 32bit package (that was back in the ugly ia32lib days)
[19:35] <geirha> NFD_: It wouldn't. I just wondered, since another cause for showing uid instead of username would be missing read permissions on the passwd database; which would cause all kinds of other trouble too
[19:36] <NFD_> gotcha
[19:38] <z800> Hi, is there any ncurses accounting program?
[19:38] <RocketPenguin> Well, that didnt go well
[19:38] <gordonjcp> z800: that sounds oddly specific, what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:39] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, what happened?
[19:39] <z800> gordonjcp, a program like ledger but ncurses like
[19:39] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  After the Error: File not found, press enter to continue popped up, as always, i get the black screen o' death
[19:40] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, I am afraid that isn't very descriptive.
[19:41] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, I can make educated guesses about what caused it, but you'd be better served getting the full error message
[19:41] <Pici> z800: I thought I saw something on a list of neat CLI tools... but it turns out that it was acutally just ledger itself.
[19:41] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, I installed the graphic drivers. Rebooted, selected ubuntu from my multi boot list, the error "Error: File not found" Hit enter to continue popped up, the screen remained black
[19:41] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, You might also want to check /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[19:41] <zykotick9> z800: you might do better asking in ##linux, #u isn't exactly too terminal-based ususally... best of luck.
[19:41] <z800> ok
[19:41] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  Except one thing. I can no longer boot into ubuntu
[19:42] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, That doesn't sound graphic card related.
[19:42] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having a problem with Xubuntu on my ASUS G46VW. Randomly when I log in, usually about 3/4ths of the time, I will just get a black screen and be unable to interact with the desktop. It doesn't seem that there's a particular problem with Xorg; lightdm works. And my applications have started; I can use my keyboard shortcuts to interact with my screen and keyboard backlights. But there is nothing displayed on the screen. It's all black.
[19:42] <TiZ> What do I do to fix this?
[19:42] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, I had more than graphic card driver issues
[19:42] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, Yes, but this is an error before you even get to graphic boot
[19:42] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, Grub is saying it can't find a file...
[19:43] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, Yes.
[19:43] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, thing is, i had that error before. i would hit enter, and booting would continue, finishing as expected
[19:43] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, i looked it up, and supposably it is just a bug.
[19:47] <brian_> when i boot up it says 'starting virtualbox kernel modules [FAIL]'
[19:48] <brian_> i install virtualbox-guest-dkms as I was told.
[19:48] <brian_> why might it fail, what are some solutions
[19:49] <xangua> can we still make audio/video calls with pidgin or empathy  now that gtalk is now hangouts and all that google+ stuff¿
[19:49] <jimgroth> I've got a samba problem. My samba user has write access and used to own the samba share folder. I changed ownership of the folder and added the user to the group who now owns the folder but I can only read now. Any ideas?
[19:53] <NFD_> okay, going twice
[19:54] <NFD_> i'm using nm-applet to manage connections, but some options are grayed out.
[19:54] <NFD_> Throws out an error: "(32) Not authorized to control networking."
[19:54] <NFD_> halp
[19:57] <Corey> scrollback end
[19:59] <fault3r> hey guys
[20:00] <fault3r> hey
[20:00] <setuid> Where are the warty backports?
[20:01] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, Hi.
[20:01] <fault3r> hey master
[20:01] <setuid> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://backports.ubuntuforums.org warty-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/backports.ubuntuforums.org_backports_dists_warty-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[20:02] <xangua> setuid: please use a supported ubuntu version
[20:02] <setuid> xangua, I am, all of them, including Warty
[20:02] <fault3r> geekmasterflash: do you know a usefull conky?
[20:02] <geekmasterflash> setuid, Currently supported versions 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 12.10, 13.04 and 13.10
[20:02] <setuid> xangua, I run every single OS under my ESXi server. Every one.
[20:02] <setuid> Including BeOS, NeXT, Haiku, OS/2, every Linux distro, etc.
[20:03] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, http://www.maketecheasier.com/7-beautiful-conky-configurations-for-your-linux-desktop/ | I use the bionic conky set up found here
[20:04] <fault3r> geekmasterflash: thanks a lot..
[20:05] <mar77i> hello #ubuntu. I have a really annoying graphics problem with saucy, a persistent blinking in unity...
[20:05] <setuid> darn Freenode
[20:05] <setuid> Anyway, so is here a way to get backports for older, legacy, unsupported Ubuntu distros?
[20:05] <RocketPenguin> On the dual boot screen, right under ubuntu, there is advanced options. this leads you to multiple ubuntus' and their recovery modes. whats the difference in between each one?
[20:06] <geekmasterflash> setuid, While you may be using every OS ever, support for them no longer exists up to a certain point.
[20:06] <setuid> geekmasterflash, I know that
[20:06] <cordoval> hi
[20:06] <cordoval> anyone around here today?
[20:06] <setuid> I've done plenty of work to make them work, it's how I learn, how I exceed where my peers failed
[20:06]  * setuid found a solution
[20:06] <cordoval> guys
[20:07] <cordoval> i am seeing this parallel software http://www.gnu.org/software/parallel/man.html#default_profile__config_file_
[20:07] <cordoval> but when i run it it does not load my ~/.zshrc
[20:07] <fault3r> How can i install dell inspiron graphic driver? my laptop isn
[20:07] <cordoval> or the right path for my program to run
[20:07] <cordoval> how to make parallel load the right stuff as in my shell?
[20:07] <fault3r> How can i install dell inspiron graphic driver? my laptop is not found on the ubuntu site
[20:07] <cordoval>       \o]
[20:07] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, enter lspci into a command prompt and pastebin the results
[20:07] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  I selected another ubuntu version from the advanced options on multi boot, and booted off of that
[20:08] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, You need to know which graphic card you are using
[20:08] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  questions is, how do i fix the grub for the other one?
[20:08] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, I am not sure. Someone else here may be better to ask, or failing that google
[20:08] <fault3r> geekmasterflash: that's result - 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[20:09] <cordoval> anyone on my issue?
[20:09] <RocketPenguin> Who knows jack about grub?
[20:09] <fault3r> my laptop is DELL Inspiron n4030
[20:09] <Beldar> !grub | RocketPenguin
[20:10] <fault3r> i'm sure that is not nvidia
[20:10] <fault3r> it's INTEL OR ATI
[20:10] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, It appears your card isn't actually a card, but a intergrated graphics on the processor
[20:10] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, From INTL
[20:10] <geekmasterflash> INTEL*
[20:10] <cordoval> \o\
[20:11] <mar77i> so, hmm. this is radeon graphics here... pretty old tho
[20:11] <Beldar> RocketPenguin, Many, state the issue to the channel for help.
[20:11] <fault3r> geekmasterflash: yes, i dont have any graphic card, it's on board, do i need to install that driver?
[20:11] <mar77i> rv370
[20:12] <RocketPenguin> Beldar, My grub is being wack. After installing graphic drivers, ubuntu freezes after the multi boot screen. how do i resolve?
[20:12] <mar77i> the fglrx driver doesn't even bring the resolution of the monitor that's connected.
[20:12] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, Honestly? I doubt there is much you'd need the proprietary driver for. On-boards tend not to be very intensive, and the open source driver should be fine. Especially the FOSS intel driver, which is excellent.
[20:13] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, issue lspci -k
[20:13] <mar77i> and the radeon blinks funny with unity, also, it's impossible to work with because the starter thingy dash isn't showing
[20:13] <geekmasterflash> fault3r, And that should tell you which, if any, driver you are using
[20:14] <Beldar> RocketPenguin, You can remove the splash by hitting e at grub and using the arrow key to remove splash and then boot and see errors. I doubt it is grub per-say that is the issue.
[20:14] <Beldar> arrows key to navigate to the splash notation that is
[20:14] <RocketPenguin> Beldar,  Splash...?
[20:15] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, When you select a previous kernel image, it loads fine?
[20:15] <Beldar> RocketPenguin, splash is the graphic screen that covers up the actual text.
[20:15] <Rory> RocketPenguin: If you remove the text that says "quiet splash" it will boot with more descriptive messages
[20:15] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, But you are getting a file not found error when trying to use the current?
[20:15] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, Yes.
[20:16] <mar77i> how would I obtain error logs created by "system program problems detected"?
[20:16] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, Yeah I would remove the splash. It sounds like grub wasn't made aware of a kernel change or maybe the kernel was deleted?
[20:16] <RocketPenguin> And yes, when i select a different kernal image, it does load
[20:16] <fault3r> geekmasterflash: thank you!
[20:16] <nishanth> anyone know how to reinstall GDM?
[20:16] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash,  i think i may have already removed the splash... but i dont know. how does one do it?
[20:16] <Rory> nishanth: Ate you sure you mean GDM and not lightdm?
[20:17] <Rory> nishanth: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[20:17] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm && sudo dkpg-reconfigure gdm
[20:17] <xangua> can we still make audio/video calls with pidgin or other XMPP client to google contacts now that gtalk became hangouts and all that google+ stuff¿
[20:17] <Rory> xangua: No, video and audio are google-specific addons and aren't part of the XMPP protocol that Pidgin uses for gtalk
[20:17] <xangua> :(
[20:18] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, No, i haven't removed splash. The thing is, with my latest kernal, it doesn't even get that far
[20:20] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, I am afraid I am not really that up to snuff on the boot loader. I was just pointing out what I thought the issue was. You had just downloaded the catalyst legacy drivers, which should have appended your kernel
[20:20] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, It looks like that change was not passed on to grub, or something similar as it now can't find your image at all
[20:21] <geekmasterflash> RocketPenguin, I figured those details might be helpful to others trying to help :D
[20:21] <RocketPenguin> geekmasterflash, I have removed splash.
[20:21] <RocketPenguin> Time to reboot.
[20:21] <mar77i> hmm.
[20:22] <TeamColtra> If your /tmp folder is really large would it affect the reboot time of your server?
[20:22] <fault3r> .
[20:23] <TeamColtra> I was trying to move a cacheing system to my tmp folder and it added tens of thousands of files, it wouldn't even let me RM the contents of the folder  -- so I tried rebooting but now it's been like 6 minutes and it still hasn't come back.
[20:24] <mar77i> the crash report is about Xorg bein stopped with SIGABRT, but I don't see that in the logs?
[20:24] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: how much data and is /tmp mounted as tmpfs?
[20:25] <mar77i> oh there it is in Xorg.1.log: WW xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: i/o error
[20:25] <mar77i> VT_GETMODE failed: i/o error
[20:25] <Issa2013> hello
[20:25] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO no, it wasn't... I didn't know that tmp wasn't automatically setup as tmpfs so I created a tmpfs directory (and pointed my cache at that new directory)
[20:25] <Issa2013> i m using ubuntu13.10 64x
[20:25] <Issa2013> the problem is my disk he make noise
[20:26] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO but I thought restarting the server would be the best way to clear out the current tmp folder
[20:26] <Issa2013> grr grr grr grr What is wrong ?
[20:26] <Issa2013> how i can show where is the problem please ?
[20:26] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, If your disk is making noise...
[20:26] <Issa2013> geekmasterflash, what ?
[20:26] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, depending on the sound and volume, there may not be much you can do
[20:27] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, especially if it's the disk your trying to boot from
[20:27] <jbunster> Oooops
[20:27] <TeamColtra> Issa2013 that sounds more like a hardware problem than software...
[20:28] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: the data in /tmp should not affect boot time, however, I have seen some cases where a badly written app can read everyting in /tmp to generate entropy as it loads
[20:28] <xauth> Issa2013: I once had noise when the disk was accessed. Turned out there was a microphone close to it recording at full volume.
[20:28] <Issa2013> TeamColtra, my computer have one years and feww month
[20:28] <Issa2013> it's not old
[20:28] <yeats> Issa2013: doesn't have to be old to stop working
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, I'd recommend unhooking everything from the PSU
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, Except the hard drive and turn it on
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, Does it make horrible noises then?
[20:29] <geekmasterflash> Issa2013, if so, your new drive may be your new door stop.
[20:30] <Beldar> Issa2013, The disk app has a smartcheck top right corner gear drop down.
[20:30] <ademoglu> guys for vim editor ve will write : sudo apt-get install vim , isnt it?
[20:31] <scrxw> yep
[20:31] <ahoneybun> does anyone have a nexus 7 grouper that they are trying to flash ubuntu touch?
[20:31] <Beldar> ahoneybun, you want #ubuntu-touch
[20:32] <ahoneybun> cool thanks Beldar
[20:32] <Beldar> ademoglu, should yes, have you run a update?
[20:36] <ademoglu> Beldar: nope, but actually i install vim but i dont understand using it
[20:36] <allu2> Would Lubuntu run well on iMac M5521 ?
[20:37] <Beldar> ademoglu, This an install, if so you have to run a update to syn the repos, upgrade actually installs the update, this is all cli.
[20:38] <geekmasterflash> allu2, If I am not mistaken, that is a PPC version Mac
[20:38] <geekmasterflash> allu2, Ubuntu doesn't have a modern PPC build to my knowledge
[20:38] <allu2> oh, i guess debian it is
[20:39] <nishanth> # join/gnome
[20:39] <Beldar> ademoglu, try man vim
[20:40] <nishanth> can anyone help me with a GDM issue?
[20:40] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, What's the issue?
[20:41] <nishanth> i installed gnome on 13.10 and i am trying to change the login screen
[20:41] <Beldar> nishanth, Just so you know state the issue to the channel for help.
[20:41] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, change how, like a gdm theme or a whole new desktop manager?
[20:42] <nishanth> well basically change the dull grey screen of the login screen
[20:42] <nishanth> gdm theme
[20:43] <ademoglu> Beldar: actually i need to learn html and i want to try at vim on the other hand i dont know how can i save my codes or the other things etc
[20:45] <nishanth> geekmasterflash gdm theme
[20:45] <Beldar> ademoglu, Cool, nothing I know.
[20:46] <tovarish> ademoglu, :w
[20:47] <Beldar> !alis | ademoglu to look for relevant channels
[20:53] <jmgk> nishanth:  ?
[20:54] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, So, did a theme cause something to break or are you asking how to install one?
[20:55] <jmgk> oh well
[20:55]  * geekmasterflash shrugs
[20:57] <trism> ademoglu: try running: vimtutor; it will walk you through the basics of vim
[20:59] <ademoglu> thanks guys all of them for everyone
[21:00] <nishanth> anyone know how to change GDM theme?
[21:00] <daftykins> !themes
[21:00] <daftykins> !changethmes
[21:00] <daftykins> !changethemes
[21:00] <daftykins> yada yada
[21:00] <ipso> When I  run: export LC_ALL=es_ES ... I get this error... warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (es_ES) ... However es_ES is listed under "locale -a" and I installed the language pack and reconfigured all the locales. Any ideas what the issue is?
[21:01] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, http://askubuntu.com/questions/193/how-can-i-change-the-login-screen-theme-in-gdm?rq=1
[21:01] <bupy7> America - shit! Russia - great power!
[21:01] <geekmasterflash> !ops | bupy7
[21:02] <jmgk> bupy7:  heh
[21:02] <intok> Is there a PPA for Moonlight that works with 12.04? want to be sure I can completely remove it after using it this one and only time
[21:02] <h00k> bupy7: this is not the place.
[21:02] <h00k> bupy7: please feel free to join a different channel, or mind the /topic here
[21:02] <bupy7> what?
[21:03] <jmgk> he messaged me with that
[21:03] <bupy7> jmgk, you from Russia?
[21:04] <jmgk> bupy7:  thats not appropriate for this channel
[21:04] <geekmasterflash> Thanks, h00k.
[21:05] <puff> I applied a batch of updates a few days ago via the updater.  Is there any way to list exactly what was updated, when?
[21:06] <bupy7> Where Russian community Ubuntu?
[21:06] <geekmasterflash> puff, Maybe /var/log/dkpg.log
[21:06] <h00k> !ru | bupy7
[21:06] <xauth> puff: Check out /var/log/dpkg.log
[21:06] <dougl> how do you remove a source that just 404's?
[21:06] <mr-rich> any way to put a desktop switcher in the top task bar?
[21:07] <geekmasterflash> dougl, sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:whatever/ppa
[21:07] <puff> geekmasterflash, xauth: thanks.
[21:07] <dougl> geekmasterflash, thanks
[21:08] <faryshta> Hi. Which tool can I use to make UML Entity Relationship Diagrams on Ubuntu'
[21:08] <puff> aroguml?
[21:09] <puff> faryshta: I know there's a linux/OS uml tool, I think it's argoUML. Let me check.
[21:09] <geekmasterflash> faryshta, Dia?
[21:09] <dougl> for the life of me I cannot seem to google enough to resolve my aspect issue with my plymouth splash screen on my nvidia equipped 13.10 install using propietary drivers
[21:09] <faryshta> puff I am trying Argo but I can't find how to make ERD here.
[21:09] <faryshta> geekmasterflash: I tried Dia, but I can't make my XMI file to load
[21:09] <puff> faryshta: Yeah, argoUML.
[21:10] <dougl> the circle is stretched horizontally and it looks ugly
[21:10] <faryshta> puff: how can i make a new entity relationship diagram?
[21:10] <puff> faryshta: Beats me, I don't use it.  I can _highly_ recommend Fowler's book _UML Distilled_, however.
[21:10] <puff> faryshta: http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/72459/uml-modeling-tool-for-linux
[21:10] <puff> faryshta: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9207092/are-there-any-good-free-lightweight-linux-uml-design-tools
[21:10] <puff> faryshta: Those pages have links to a couple different tools.
[21:10] <geekmasterflash> dougl, Have you tried nosplash in xorg.conf for the card?
[21:11] <faryshta> puff: i already got those links, thanks I tried every single one of them. But each have something I either can't understandor they can't do
[21:11] <bjorkintosh> can jackd be made to work with pulse?
[21:11] <faryshta> puff: so i need to know if argo can make ER diagrams
[21:11] <puff> faryshta: Sorry I can't be more help.  There's also a wikipedia page about diagramming toosl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagramming_software
[21:11] <dougl> geekmasterflash, no... I want the splash just the aspect ratio is stretched but when I preview it from my completely booted desktop it looks fine...?
[21:11] <faryshta> puff ok. do you know anyone who can help me?
[21:11] <puff> faryshta: From my experience, though I haven't looked into it in about five or six years, there are very few ERD tools.
[21:12] <geekmasterflash> bjorkintosh, Not easily, and not pretty: http://trac.jackaudio.org/wiki/WalkThrough/User/PulseOnJack
[21:12] <faryshta> geekmasterflash: so you know if dia can open xmi files?
[21:12] <puff> faryshta: You do mean ER as in relational database diagrams, right?
[21:12] <glitsj16> dougl: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/script-to-fix-ubuntu-plymouth-for.html still works on 13.04 here, if you haven't seen that
[21:12] <faryshta> puff: yes, exactly
[21:12] <bjorkintosh> okay.
[21:12] <bjorkintosh> seems i can't do without pulse. i'll see if i can make it work.
[21:12] <bjorkintosh> thanks geekmasterflash
[21:13] <mr-rich> Hello ... any way to put a desktop switcher in the top task bar?
[21:13] <geekmasterflash> faryshta, No, Dia can't handle xmi files according to google search
[21:13] <puff> faryshta: This looks kinda neat: http://argouml-sql.tigris.org/
[21:14] <geekmasterflash> mr-rich, try pressing and holding Super(windows)+alt+rightclick on the bar
[21:14] <geekmasterflash> mr-rich, There may be a drop down for "add to panel"
[21:14] <xangua> mr-rich: there is a workspaces indicator
[21:14] <faryshta> puff: cool. how can i install it?
[21:14] <dougl> glitsj16, thanks for the input... I did try that on 13.10 and still stretched aspect... what resolution worked for you? do you have an nvidia card?
[21:14] <puff> faryshta: Hm, looks like there may not be an ERD feature in argo UML.  This conversation is from 2007, so things may have changed: http://argouml.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=450&dsMessageId=866795
[21:15] <faryshta> yeah, i readed that too. and couldn't find any other more recent discussion
[21:15] <xangua> http://askubuntu.com/questions/77160/how-can-i-tell-what-workspace-i-am-in-with-unity/77225#77225 mr-rich and other indicators aviable http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[21:15] <bish0p_> Can I get some help with this ubuntu netbook I just bought? I'm not entirely sure what went wrong, I'm new to any unix system in general.
[21:16] <puff> faryshta: There's an #argouml channel.  It Loks quiet, but maybe ask and wait an hour or two to see if anybody ansewrs.
[21:16] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, The more details on the issue you give us, the better we can be of assistance.
[21:16] <faryshta> puff: already there, already asked
[21:16] <puff> faryshta: Or post a question here http://argouml-users.net/forum/
[21:16] <bish0p_> It's the ASUS X200CA-DB02. I LITERALLY just opened it, and booted it up. Went through the startup process, but when it started to install
[21:16] <bish0p_> I got something about a bad package and it shut down
[21:16] <bish0p_> now it's saying something about grub recovery
[21:17] <bish0p_> some kind of terminal with an error about ELF headers
[21:17] <glitsj16> dougl: 1600x900 works for me with nvidia yes, i think anything works that is recognized by vbetool, not sure though, the script refered to in the article will tell you
[21:17] <puff> faryshta: I'm sorry I can't be more help, as I said, I hardly use argoUML.
[21:17] <dougl> glitsj16, thanks again... appreciate the input.
[21:17] <puff> faryshta: In fact, I haven't used it in ten years.
[21:18] <puff> faryshta: Also, if you JUST need an ERD tool, you may be better off looking for that specifically, rather than a UML tool that does ERDs.
[21:18] <mr-rich> xangua: I see the one in the bar to the right, but also want one in the bar at the top ...
[21:18] <glitsj16> dougl: no problem, hope you can get things fixed, however short, it's irritating to get a scrambled plymouth
[21:19] <puff> faryshta: lastly, this whole topic might be better pursued on a channel about databases, or about programming.  Probably somewhere like #mysql or whatever database you're using, or #java or whatever programming language you're using.
[21:19] <faryshta> puff: that sounds like a good idea. do you know an ERD tool?
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Sorry to hear that, I have one of those laptops. I also found it did the install on first boot
[21:20] <dougl> glitsj16, yes... funny no 1600x900 option for my card... hmmm
[21:20] <bish0p_> Damn.
[21:20] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Though it sounds like yours may have had a flawed image
[21:20] <bish0p_> So, could I redownload it from the ubuntu website?
[21:21] <glitsj16> dougl: what options do you get (and are you running the fixplymouth script or vbetool?)
[21:21] <dougl> glitsj16, the script.
[21:22] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Do you have a usb stick you can use to load a new image on?
[21:22] <bish0p_> geekmasterflash, would any old one do? I have a 4GB one I could quick take the stuff off uf
[21:22] <bish0p_> *of
[21:23] <pedahzur> I am trying to install from the mini.iso for Ubuntu 12.04.  I'm doing the command-line install.  It goes through some steps, then hangs at the Loading Installer Components section.  Just hangs. No activity. No error messages on the log (ctrl-f4).  It has network, because it already downloaded parts of the installer.  Any ideas?
[21:23] <glitsj16> dougl: only usefull thing i can report is to not run the script twice, as the warning says ... sorry man
[21:23] <nishanth> anyone know if there is a way to change login screen for GDM?
[21:24] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, That should do fine, though a good question is how to get into that laptop's bios. I've never needed to before
[21:24] <bish0p_> geekmasterflash, what version should I grab? I read that 13.10 has problems with the wifi card
[21:24] <bish0p_> shit
[21:25] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, 13.10 is what I use, but if you know there is a known problem maybe 12.10 or 13.04 is what you want
[21:25] <bish0p_> okay
[21:26] <nishanth> #/gnome
[21:26] <k1l> !away > gpix_be_on_later
[21:26] <ipso> When I  run: export LC_ALL=es_ES ... I get this error... warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (es_ES) ... However es_ES is listed under "locale -a" and I installed the language pack and reconfigured all the locales. Any ideas what the issue is?
[21:26] <bish0p_> I have an iso installed, what should I do?
[21:26] <virgo> good evening humans. I have a problem with software center and update manager. They give some failure related to one program that i have - digidoc. Unfortunatelly i am not able to do anything with the apt- get as it throws me error.
[21:26] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, That was fast.
[21:26] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Are you sure?
[21:27] <bish0p_> I had it downloaded from before, when I was trying to run a VM. lol
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Did you write the iso file to the usb stick to make it bootable
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Or just save the .iso to the stick?
[21:27] <Calinou> virgo, which error?
[21:27] <bish0p_> I have absolutely no idea how to do that. Sorry. :u
[21:27] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, what OS are you running right now?
[21:28] <bish0p_> Win 7, I wanted to change things up and try linux without messing with my computer
[21:28] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[21:28] <Beldar> virgo, Can you show the apt-get error in a pastebin, all of the text including the get command
[21:28] <bish0p_> thank you so much
[21:28] <glitsj16> dougl: you might try a lower resolution that what you want, but better than without feeding grub anything, i think that defaults to 640x480 .. worth a shot
[21:28] <virgo> when i do sudo apt-get -f install - it says me trying to overwrite '/etc/digidoc.conf', which is also in package libdigidoc-common 2.7.0-0ubuntu4
[21:28] <virgo> sorry for terminal spam...
[21:28] <bupy7> People! How make boot flash usb with Windows XP from Ubuntu? I use ms-sys, but I have does not work!
[21:29] <jhutchins_wk> virgo: try installing in a console using aptitude.
[21:29] <iTrojan> im trying find / -name core 1> ./file.txt but it doesnt save to file.txt
[21:29] <quidnunc> Does ubuntu use rsyslog by default?
[21:30] <Beldar> bupy7, where did you get the XP iso?
[21:30] <jhutchins_wk> quidnunc: Most recent versions do.
[21:30] <zzxc> iTrojan: What happens if you print it to the console?
[21:30] <iTrojan> zzxc: it prints paths
[21:30] <jhutchins_wk> bupy7: -> #windows
[21:30] <zzxc> virgo: try sudo apt-get purge libdigidoc-common
[21:31] <jhutchins_wk> iTrojan: That is correct.
[21:31] <NFD_> lemme try one more time: nm-applet (which i'm using to manage connections) isn't working properly. It throws "(32) Not authorized to control networking." when I try to do much of anything. Help?
[21:31] <jhutchins_wk> iTrojan: try it without the "1".
[21:31] <bupy7> Beldar, I download from torrent)))
[21:31] <virgo> if i do that, it recommends me to do this instead "apt-get -f install"
[21:31] <virgo> and this gives me the previous error
[21:32] <puff> faryshta: Not offhand, I just use a text editor for my ER work.
[21:32] <puff> faryshta: Gotta go do some other things now, good luck.
[21:32] <Beldar> bupy7, That is a pirate download and not supported here and stupid to use anyway. XP is eol in less than 6 months as well.
[21:32] <jhutchins_wk> virgo: Try aptitude/apt-get -f install.  I suggested aptitude for a reason though.
[21:32] <iTrojan> zzxc: same
[21:33] <bupy7> Beldar, I am from Russia. We all use pirate. I have Windows 7 is a pirate and it work.
[21:34] <Beldar> bupy7, You can still get a free download and usable W8 or 8.1 I believe till january I believe, using a torrent download is just dumb.
[21:34] <k1l> !warez | bupy7
[21:34] <aguitel> anyone installed multifunction epson cx5600?  printer is ok but scanner not working
[21:34] <bupy7> Beldar, here other problem.
[21:35] <bupy7> Beldar, No. I need Windows XP for games. ))
[21:35] <jhutchins_wk> 5~/msg ubottu 040
[21:35] <ikonia> bupy7: no more in this channel please
[21:35] <k1l> bupy7: once more: no windows support and no warez in here.
[21:35] <virgo> thanks jhutchins_wk and others - the "aptitude -f install" worked. I get no error now. I guess i got some "bad" packages removed though
[21:36] <virgo> but i didnt use them anyway
[21:37] <intok> does anyone know how to get get silverlight to work on Linux? Novell lied and said that Moonlight is in the bardgerports repo, it's not. Tried using Wine to install the Windows version of Firefox and IE, yet Silverlight wont install...
[21:37] <Beldar> aguitel, It seems multiuse priter scanners can be problematic, have you tried xsane?
[21:37] <bupy7> k1l and ikonia, I ask how make boot flash usb.
[21:37] <geekmasterflash> intok, There is an (unsupported) PPA from compholio wine that has a working silverlight install
[21:37] <geekmasterflash> intok, Though it's only used for Netflix
[21:38] <intok> geekmasterflash need it to log into a site needed for work...
[21:38] <bupy7> Есть кто-нибудь из России чтоб поговорить? Эти америкося ебанулись совсем, выкидывают меня из чата.
[21:38] <geekmasterflash> intok, Well, it might be a good place to start, since it's a working version at least.
[21:39] <geekmasterflash> intok, http://www.compholio.com/wine-compholio/
[21:39] <bjorkintosh> it works nicely.
[21:39] <bjorkintosh> i watch netflix that way :)
[21:39] <geekmasterflash> intok, It launched Netflix in Firefox, but you can go to any site
[21:39] <geekmasterflash> intok, You just have to use a keyboard shortcut to get the address bar to show
[21:40] <bekks> Well, that was swearing by him.
[21:40] <Hexeon> hi bekks
[21:40] <bekks> hi Hexeon
[21:41] <bish0p_> geekmasterflash, I'm making a boot USB now, and I'm in chat with Asus because this is bullshit I payed them for preinstalled
[21:41] <bish0p_> :I
[21:41] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, I don't blame you
[21:41] <bish0p_> I mean, I can do it myself, but that's not the point.
[21:41] <bish0p_> I just hope the guy knows what I'm talking about omg
[21:41] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, But failing that, a boot usb should get you to where you want to be
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> bish0p_: Asus does pre-installed ubuntu now?
[21:42] <Beldar> bish0p_, Please don't swear here. ;)
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, Yes, I have one myself.
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, It's a notebook with ubuntu
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> Cool, someone was asking about that earlier.
[21:42] <bish0p_> Beldar, sorry
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, Though the install method is stupid
[21:42] <jhutchins_wk> bish0p_: You should at least get a refund if you paid extra for the OS, but Dell didn't use to charge when they shipped with Linux.
[21:42] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, And can cause problems, like bish0p_ is having
[21:43] <jhutchins_wk> geekmasterflash: I'm assuming they just dd a disk image.
[21:43] <bish0p_> I'm just worried because I've heard horrible things about Asus's support
[21:43] <bish0p_> :I
[21:43] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, Apparently the send you a laptop that was suspended mid install
[21:43] <jhutchins_wk> geekmasterflash: ...
[21:43] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, Yup, it's pretty dumb.
[21:44] <jhutchins_wk> geekmasterflash: I've built several hundred POS terminals using a disk image.
[21:46] <jhutchins_wk> geekmasterflash: Is there any charge for the OS install?
[21:47] <edoceo> I've got a recent upgrade to Prcecise now when I signin all I get is an xterm with in the upper left, no borders or title
[21:47] <geekmasterflash> jhutchins_wk, No, I don't think so
[21:47] <edoceo> If I exit the xterm, then my session is over :(
[21:47] <edoceo> Using the Guest Session option still provides a fully functional environment
[21:49] <zzxc> edoceo: Yeah If its all the same group and you don't have different premissions you should be able to see all of the users' info.
[21:49] <bish0p_> geekmasterflash, I booted from the USB but now the mouse dosen't work
[21:50] <aguitel> Beldar, xsane is not working
[21:50] <edoceo> zzxc Huh? My issue is that I cannot start as my exisitng user account, it only gives me an xterm
[21:51] <zzxc> edoceo: Sorry My appolgies, I miss read it
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Keyboard should be able to get you through the install, and from there you can probably define the mouse in xorg or the such, but yeah I am sorry I am not sure what else you could do
[21:52] <abe5254> Hello folks. I have a doubt related to networking. Can I define nameservers via bind9 for an ubuntu server with two public IPs? Thing is that i bought a domain (e.g. mydom.com) and it's requesting for 2 nameservers, but I don't have any configured
[21:52] <bish0p_> I have no idea what an xorg.
[21:52] <bish0p_> *xorg is
[21:52] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, It's sort of a gui abstraction layer.
[21:53] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, ASUS support not being helpful?
[21:53] <bish0p_> I can't read the serial number because it's so goddamn small
[21:53] <bish0p_> :I
[21:53] <bish0p_> and my eyes are kind of bad
[21:53] <abe5254> so I was reading several tutorials about configuring a DNS with bind9 but all of them seem to configure local domains, and I think that's not what I need, am I right?
[21:53] <bish0p_> at close distances
[21:54] <N5DUX> I have 2 different serial devices hooked to USB-to-serial adapters. Is there a way to explicitly set one adapter to always be recognized as /dev/ttyUSB0 and the other as USB1? (Hate having to figure out which is which)
[21:55] <Calinou> bish0p_, xorg is a display server
[21:56] <Beldar> aguitel, You might go to askubuntu and run a search with that printer model.
[21:56] <aguitel> Beldar, ok
[21:56] <bish0p_> Alright, so I'm in the BIOS. Should I pick the UEFI one with the name of my USB, or just the USB.
[21:56] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, Ask ASUS. The disk might be GPT partitioned
[21:57] <Beldar> aguitel, I would also search the web with that model and the release your running, that is where I start when looking for issues.
[21:57] <bish0p_> geekmasterflash, I was going to call them, but honestly IDK how much they can help.
[21:57] <aguitel> thanks Beldar
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, My own opinion is to avoid UEFI as often as possible, but ASUS might have done something wonky requiring you to use it
[21:57] <Beldar> aguitel, No problem, hope you get it resolved.
[21:57] <geekmasterflash> bish0p_, I imagine quite a bit
[21:58] <bish0p_> kk
[21:58] <bish0p_> jesus christ prerecorded messages
[21:58] <bish0p_> i cant even
[21:58] <iTrojan> why doesnt this "echo * | sort -r" sort files in reverse order?
[21:58] <Calinou> bish0p_, if you want to dual boot you will have to use UEFI
[21:59] <Calinou> else you can use UEFI or BIOS
[21:59] <k1l> bish0p_: please reduce the swearing in here. thanks
[21:59] <Calinou> I still suggest using a GPT partition table, if you don't dual boot; it is modern and lets you create more than 4 primary partitions
[21:59] <geekmasterflash> Calinou, It's an ASUS Ubuntu notebook
[21:59] <bish0p_> are you
[21:59] <bish0p_> WHAT
[21:59] <bish0p_> THEY HUNG UP ON ME
[21:59] <pedahzur> iTrojan: Because * interpolates to one long string.  Try echo * by itself.  If you want to sort in reverse order, do ls|sort -r
[21:59] <FloodBot1> bish0p_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:00] <add1ctus> I can't force a resolution on my second monitor, xrandr gives me "X Error of failed request : BadMatch"
[22:00] <pedahzur> iTrojan: or ls -r
[22:00] <Beldar> bish0p_, THis is a world wide channel crossing many cultural and ethnic groups, please use your words accordingly respecting a multicultural friendly tone. ;)
[22:00] <Beldar> besides being family friendly
[22:00] <daftykins> and preferably press enter less
[22:01] <iTrojan> pedahzur: hmm I dont want to reverse order them, I just was wondering why
[22:01] <iTrojan> pedahzur: so, echo wont pipe?
[22:02] <nishanth> #gdm
[22:02] <add1ctus> Here's the exact error I'm getting.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6486751/ Anyone?
[22:02] <pedahzur> iTrojan: echo does pipe.  But echo * interpolates to "echo file1 file2 file3 ... fileN", which echo puts all on one line.  sort, apparently, splits on newline, thus the result you are seeing.
[22:04] <iTrojan> nice, thank you pedahzur
[22:05] <pedahzur> iTrojan: You're welcome.
[22:05] <hs366> I can't access my drives after installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:05] <hs366> can you help me plz
[22:06] <rymate1234> Hey, how do I enable XComposite when using an X session via http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[22:06] <hs366> I can't see my Ex-usb HDDs and also windows partitions
[22:06] <Beldar> add1ctus, Are you sure the monitor can use that X and Y?
[22:06] <Calinou> hs366, you need to mount them first
[22:07] <add1ctus> Beldar: Yes, I am sure, have been using it on other OS for several years (even on Ubuntu some time ago)
[22:07] <hs366> but it was available before installation
[22:08] <add1ctus> Beldar : But I'm using a VGA->DVI adapter for one monitor, so it can't manage to detect the resolution by itself.
[22:08] <Beldar> add1ct3dd, Not sure if this is exactly what you need but I found this. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/310.32/README/xrandrextension.html
[22:08] <Beldar> I have not had to mess with xrandr myself
[22:08] <hs366> i tried to find them in system monitor / file system but there only one device available there
[22:09] <Guest73907> ok
[22:09] <Guest73907> ciao a tutti
[22:09] <add1ctus> Beldar : When I try that I get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6486782/
[22:09] <add1ctus> Beldar : And when I try to add the mode myself I get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6486751/
[22:10] <geekmasterflash> !it | Guest73907
[22:10] <Guest73907> ok
[22:11] <hs366> Calinou,  are you sure about the mount drive ? it's a bit strange , isn't it ?
[22:11] <Calinou> no :/
[22:11] <Beldar> add1ctus, I would look closer at the the manual on xrandr, I have no real experience with it other than a few years ago and no real custom commands.
[22:11] <jhutchins_wk> !ntfs
[22:11] <hs366> any recommendation ?
[22:12] <hs366> thx jhutchins_wk
[22:12] <add1ctus> Beldar : Will give it a read once again, although I've been going at this problem for the whole day (and googling gives me same answer which doesn't work)
[22:12] <hs366> i'll take a look
[22:12] <Beldar> add1ctus, Understandable,
[22:12] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: You might end up having to create a xorg.conf file to control it since it doesn't auto-detect.
[22:13] <hs366> ooh , seems it's advance level
[22:14] <hs366> :-/
[22:14] <blognewb> hey guys? does one have to be online with internet access to verify a gpg public key???
[22:15] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, Generally yes unless the two connecting machines are local to each other
[22:15] <blognewb> I tried verifying a file's signature, there's an RSA Key id but it said: gpg: Signature made Tue 21 Aug 2012 using RSA key ID XXXXXXA
[22:15] <blognewb> gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[22:16] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, hi is the RSA Key id being correct enough as a verification that it's from that legit person?
[22:16] <add1ctus> Beldar : Do you have any experience with xorg.conf ?
[22:16] <hs366> jhutchins_wk,  if i remove the ubuntu-restricted-extra , can i have access to drives again ? i just want to make sure about the problem
[22:17] <Beldar> add1ctus, Nah it is not even part of a stock install as of now, I have laptops that just work, no external monitors.
[22:17] <quizme> how do you check your upstart version?
[22:17] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, What, approximately are you trying to do?
[22:18] <add1ctus> Beldar : Any other way of fixing it besides xrandr then?
[22:18] <hs366> do i need advance skill to work with xorg.conf ?
[22:19] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: Apologies, that was to add1ctus.
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> hs366: I'm not sure, I would follow the directions above for ntfs.
[22:20] <glitsj16> quizme: apt-cache policy upstart
[22:20] <quizme> glitsj16 thanks
[22:20] <Danato> im trying to boot up a laptop here with ubuntu live dvd and its not working, any idea of what could be the cause?
[22:20] <Beldar> add1ctus, I would not know really without some research. It seems though that you have not really outlined the issue to the channel is all I am noticing, in exact hardware and end goals.
[22:20] <bjorkintosh> Danato, it should report some errors.
[22:20] <bjorkintosh> those errors are your biggest clue.
[22:20] <jhutchins_wk> Danato: #1: Bad burn, #2: bad iso.
[22:21] <hs366> jhutchins_wk,  ok , i was scared !
[22:21] <Beldar> add1ctus, I could be an error on details I jsut notice you have no hits by anyone is all.
[22:21] <Danato> bjorkintosh: it didnt, theres jst a blinking cursor
[22:21] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, just verifying someone else's file's signature if it really is theirs, can i simply copy paste their long public key??
[22:21] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, No, but retreiving a public key is easy
[22:22] <Danato> jhutchins_wk: ive tried with 2 different dvds, one with 13.10 another with 13.04, ive tested both, and was able to install ubuntu with both
[22:22] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, gpg --recv-keys (keyid)
[22:22] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, with internet access?
[22:22] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, Need access to them, yes
[22:22] <Danato> jhutchins_wk: could it be the dvd drive?
[22:22] <beardman> hello all
[22:22] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, key id is the RSA Key ID? I thought it was the fingerprint
[22:23] <quizme> glitsj16 i have upstart 1.5, is it safe to upgrade to 1.7 ?  I don't want to destroy my computer
[22:23] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, And just like when police look at a finger print
[22:23] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, They want to match it
[22:23] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, Thus the public key
[22:23] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, so i guess it;s good enough right? no need to get the public key?
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> Danato: Yes, I used to keep three or four different ones because not all systems would boot from all of them, different drives for different systems, but make sure the iso & disk are valid first, those are the most common reasons.
[22:24] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, You want the public key
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> Danato: If they're good and it still doesn't work you could try a CD instead of a DVD.
[22:24] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, Otherwise it could be fake and you can't verify.
[22:24] <blognewb> geekmasterflash, how can i do it offline?
[22:24] <geekmasterflash> blognewb, You dont.
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> Danato: Also, usb.
[22:24] <glitsj16> quizme: is there a regular upstart update you can upgrade to? that's your safest bet .. anything else can become tricky
[22:25] <glitsj16> quizme: what ubuntu version are you on?
[22:25] <quizme> glitsj16 i think i'll just upgrade my ubuntu version
[22:25] <quizme> glitsj16 12.04
[22:25] <Beldar> quizme, If I could interject, make sure what you upgrade to is supported, for example ppa's are not here.
[22:25] <glitsj16> quizme: 12.04 still has support as LTS
[22:26] <glitsj16> quizme: any specific reason why you want to upgrade your upstart?
[22:26] <Danato> jhutchins_wk: i checked the md5sum before burning the dvds, and never had a problem with them after burning. ive got an external dvd drive here, gonna give it a try
[22:26] <quizme> glitsj16 because i'm a programmer and want my services to start when the system starts
[22:26] <Beldar> Danato, You aware of per-session booting?
[22:27] <quizme> glitsj16 and i'm reading the cookbook about session jobs which is available in upstart 1.7, but i have 1.5
[22:27] <Danato> Beldar: whats that?
[22:28] <quizme> beldar: what do u mean "ppa's are no here" ?
[22:28] <Beldar> Danato, There is a boot from menu outside the bios, I get to mine with f12 at powering on, yours may be the same or different.
[22:28] <glitsj16> quizme: so now some services don't get started automatically in 12.04? i'd try to workout those issues first personally .. i have very basic insights as to the inner workings of upstart .. ask the channel for a heads-up
[22:28] <Beldar> !ppa | quizme
[22:29] <Danato> Beldar: ah yeah I know that. But thats not the problem, it loads ubuntu, at least the first splash screen, then it goes to a blinking cursor and doesnt do anything at all
[22:29] <Beldar> Danato, nomodeset?
[22:29] <quizme> beldar: u mean PPAs are not supported for non-LTS versions of Ubuntu?
[22:30] <Beldar> quizme, technically not supported here unless that is the only option.
[22:30] <Beldar> any release
[22:31] <kenetik_> Need help with ports not listening.. http://url.phsrvr.com/3Ss1Kw << Ubuntu Forum Thread
[22:31] <Beldar> quizme, Just a heads up is all, does not mean you will never get help, but it may be a longer wait, and you may get a not supported rhetoric is all.
[22:32] <bekks> quizme: PPA arent supported at all, in this channel, normally.
[22:32] <add1ctus> Beldar : Just wanted to let you know that I fixed it by scaling the output via xrandr
[22:32] <MrMonkey31> real quick guys: making mounted folders removed when their images are de-mounted - I guess this can be done with alias, but is it a Good Idea?
[22:32] <Beldar> add1ctus, Cool, good job.
[22:32] <Danato> Beldar: Sorry, i also dont know whats that
[22:33] <add1ctus> Beldar : A bit blurry, but looks better at least. Can you tell me how can I make that command execute every time I start the pc?
[22:33] <Beldar> !nomodeset | Danato
[22:34] <Beldar> add1ct3dd, I think this should do it. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[22:35] <Beldar> Danato, with a live enviroment it is a f6 prompt at the first try gui, and choose nomodeset and then boot in.
[22:38] <Danato> Beldar: Come again? and where do i set acpi_osi="Linux" ?
[22:39] <Beldar> Danato, Im just thinking of using nomodeset this is a low graphic boot commonly used with a blinking cursor scenario.
[22:40] <Beldar> Danato, Generally for a missing graphic driver situation.
[22:40] <Danato> Beldar: hmm i think i found how to do it, let me give it a try
[22:41] <Beldar> Danato, That link from the bot shows you exactly.
[22:41] <Danato> Beldar: yeah i was reading it, but i jst got to the point where it actually shows what to do
[22:42] <abe5254> Hello folks. I have a doubt related to networking. Can I define nameservers via bind9 for an ubuntu server with two public IPs? Thing is that i bought a domain (e.g. mydom.com) and it's requesting for 2 nameservers, but I don't have any configured
[22:42] <abe5254> so I was reading several tutorials about configuring a DNS with bind9 but all of them seem to configure local domains, and I think that's not what I need, am I right?
[22:42] <Beldar> Danato, Cool, I just interjected the process for you to reference with that web page.
[22:43] <Danato> Beldar: Its loading ubuntu, I think it worked :)
[22:44] <Beldar> Danato, Cool, when you install be sure you are on the web and tick the upgrade on install and hopefully the driver issue will be resolved. The nomodeset can be used at grub to to get in after install too.
[22:45] <anternat> heyas, i am trying to install ub-desktop-13.04 in VBOX environment (host win7-64 and guest ub-desktop 13.04-64) is this the correct link to get ub. desktop as theer is amd word at the and of the file . I am on a i7
[22:45] <jhutchins_wk> mr-rich: You might want to look at autofs.
[22:45] <anternat> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[22:46] <jhutchins_wk> mr-rich: sorry, he gone.
[22:46] <Ben64> anternat: yes
[22:46] <Danato> Beldar: so youre saying that all that can be solved by upgrading it at least once?
[22:46] <anternat> ben the ins. complains about kernel and says he found only 1 processor
[22:47] <anternat> do i have to turn VT on from bios or such? what must i do
[22:47] <Beldar> Danato, The install has a upgrade while installing, that can pickup the graphic driver at times, not a update on the live enviroment per-say, but part of the install.
[22:47] <Ben64> anternat: there is #vbox for vbox issues
[22:48] <anternat> i dont think this is an issue as i am installing server 12.04 at the moment
[22:48] <Beldar> Danato, TO get that upgrade on install you have to tick a box in the install gui's you see.
[22:48] <anternat> but i ll put desktop version too
[22:48] <anternat> thank you anyway
[22:48] <Ben64> anternat: but you're installing on vbox..
[22:48] <anternat> okay letme ask Ben64 ty for your help
[22:49] <Beldar> Danato, I will be gone for about 15 min, just letting you know.
[22:49] <hs366> can someone explain to me why i need to mount my drives in ubuntu desktop , when i can access it in gnome ?
[22:49] <hs366> im not expert user
[22:49] <Rory> hs366: Whatever you think is happening in Gnome, behind the scenes it is still mounting your drives!
[22:49] <Ben64> hs366: it has to be mounted to access in gnome
[22:50] <Danato> Beldar: yeah i was referring to upgrading during/after install. on this case it will be most likely after, because im not being able to connect now
[22:51] <hs366> Rory, Ben64 i didn't mount them before, so you mean it's automatically  mounted when i open it in gnome ?
[22:51] <Ben64> hs366: indeed
[22:53] <hs366> Ben64,  Thank you so much..!! i spend 1h to find the answer in google
[22:53] <hs366> :)
[22:53] <Danato> Beldar: well you already helped loads, thanks
[23:05] <Beldar> Danato, I'm back, no problem.
[23:06] <ChronicLlama> hello
[23:07] <ChronicLlama> anyone here know about recovering data from a HDD that was whiped by mistake?
[23:08] <Rory> ChronicLlama: You can use testdisk but it depends how it was erased
[23:08] <Beldar> ChronicLlama, Some use testdisk, which has a funnction called photorec as well for images.
[23:09] <sam113101> test
[23:09] <Rory> ChronicLlama: Assume the data is gone forever, anything you get back from testdisk is just good luck.
[23:09] <Beldar> ChronicLlama, Best thing is having that stuff backed up in the end.
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> what happened was i was installing linux and i mounted my external usb hdd and it whiped it and intalled linux on it
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> if that helps
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> but Rory i would rather try than not attempt it
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> it wasnt alot of data
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> just a lil back up i had from windows shit, like downloaded pictures, some files
[23:10] <Beldar> ChronicLlama, You want to be aware of the manual install, it would avoid this sort of error.
[23:10] <ChronicLlama> its a 80gb hdd had like... 10gb maybe?
[23:11] <ChronicLlama> Beldar, true...
[23:11] <Rory> ChronicLlama: "it wiped it" how?
[23:12] <ChronicLlama> i whiped it by mistake
[23:12] <Rory> But how? Deleted the files? Formatted it?
[23:12] <anternat> did you broke the mbr?
[23:13] <ChronicLlama> formatted
[23:14] <Foxhoundz> anyone there
[23:15] <Foxhoundz> ok
[23:15] <Beldar> ChronicLlama, We can speculate all day and conclude with no real empirically supported info, but I would run testdisk and see if it works.
[23:15] <ChronicLlama> Rory, you think testdisk would work?
[23:15] <ChronicLlama> ok
[23:15] <Foxhoundz> Can I use Optirun to force 3D acceleration of Gnome 3?
[23:15] <Rory> ChronicLlama: Like I said, assume it won't but hope it will
[23:15] <ChronicLlama> i'll check it out
[23:15] <anternat> how to install only security updates on a clean server system(12.04)
[23:15] <Foxhoundz> Someone must know!
[23:16] <ChronicLlama> Rory, how do i use testdisk?
[23:17] <ChronicLlama> is there a gui?
[23:17] <k1l> anternat: there is no seperation between security updates and other updates. just run "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get all updates
[23:17] <Rory> ChronicLlama: No but they have a wiki with extremely detailed examples and instructions
[23:17] <Rory> ChronicLlama: There's commercial software also but I am not going to recommend any in particular
[23:17] <ChronicLlama> ok thank you
[23:18] <anternat> ty k1l
[23:18] <anternat> i will stay on 12.04
[23:19] <k1l> anternat: "dist-upgrade" will not bring you to a new version
[23:19] <anternat> ohh
[23:19] <k1l> !apt
[23:20] <anternat> what is the simplest way to go 12.04.3 from 12.04.1
[23:20] <k1l> anternat: just do the commands i gave you. the .3 is like the 3rd servicepack. you come there with all the updates
[23:21] <kas> hello
[23:21] <k1l> anternat: if you want the newer kernels that the .3 got use the kernel enablement stack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:21] <Rory> anternat: If you are fully up-to-date you already have "12.04.3" - the point of those minor updates is to create new install .iso images so people don't have to download a year's worth of updates
[23:21] <anternat> i had run the first command b4 i asked my question k1l, is it okay to run the && part seperately now?
[23:22] <k1l> anternat: yes. you can run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a new line
[23:22] <anternat> rory i installed from an older download of mine, it is 12.04.1 in vbox i know
[23:22] <anternat> ty very much k1l, you ve been of gr8 help
[23:22] <kas> ？？
[23:23] <kas>  to  me?
[23:24] <Rory> kas: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:24] <kas> no
[23:24] <kas> i am a new user
[23:25] <ChronicLlama> Rory, it worked
[23:25] <Rory> ChronicLlama: That's good to hear!
[23:26] <ChronicLlama> Rory, also the terminal for it is great to use
[23:26] <b0x> i dont have nvidia drivers installed on my ubuntu 13.10
[23:26] <Rory> ChronicLlama: yeah I've used testdisk to recover from an "oh no" moment as well
[23:26] <b0x> ive got onboard intel also
[23:26] <ChronicLlama> it says i need to reboot though... and it seemed too quick to wite the partition...
[23:26] <b0x> but the nvidia card seems to be running the whole time anyway
[23:26] <Rory> b0x: if you want them, use the Additional Drivers tool to install them
[23:26] <b0x> can i stop this from happening?
[23:27] <Rory> b0x: You can go into your BIOS and choose between onboard and dedicated graphics, at least I can on this Thinkpad with dual nvidia/intel graphics
[23:27] <b0x> i found a few tutorials on installing the nvidia drivers along with... bumblebee?? something todo with optimus?? i have no idea if my card supports optimus
[23:27] <b0x> but all the tutorials said the card stays on anyway regardless
[23:27] <Rory>  b0x Honestly if I were you I just... wouldn't
[23:28] <b0x> i get screen tearing and a bunch of compiz errors on startup also
[23:28] <b0x> thats what i was thinking
[23:28] <b0x> but its not installed, yet still running
[23:28] <Rory> b0x: If I were you, I'd enable the discrete graphics in your BIOS (disable Optimus) and then just use the open-source driver that's included
[23:28] <msoi> hello, is it possible to run 64 bit linux software on 32 bit?
[23:28] <daftykins> you can't do that on every optimus system
[23:28] <b0x> not sure if i can do it via bios
[23:28] <Rory> msoi: No
[23:29] <b0x> i dont know if this supports optimus? or is that just the fancy term for having 2 gfx cards that switch etc
[23:29] <Rory> b0x: I think it is the fancy term yeah
[23:29] <b0x> gefore gt630m
[23:29] <Danato> any idea why would gparted show partitions all wrong?
[23:29] <Rory> b0x: I'll step out of offering advice if you're forced into an "automatic" mode
[23:29] <b0x> right
[23:29] <msoi> ok ty
[23:29] <Rory> !details | Danato
[23:30] <b0x> Rory: from what i gather, even if i install the drivers and bumblebee etc
[23:30] <b0x> the card still runs regardless
[23:30] <b0x> all the time
[23:31] <ahoneybun> I have a bumblee setup
[23:31] <Rory> b0x: Like I said, not experienced with switchable graphics since I just turned mine onto using nvidia all the time
[23:31] <b0x> absolutely chews the battery
[23:31] <ahoneybun> dual booting Windows 8 and Ubuntu 13,10
[23:31] <b0x> Rory: right
[23:31] <Rory> b0x: And I did it in the BIOS so ubuntu doesn't even know it's got Intel graphics at all
[23:31] <miike> Rory, wow... it actually worked thanks man
[23:31] <b0x> might check my bios
[23:32] <b0x> i dont play games etc so the intel should be fine
[23:32] <Rory> miike: Did you mean me? I forgot what I helped with but I'm glad to head!
[23:32] <Danato> Rory: basically when i open gparted it shows me partitions with the wrong sizes, wrong flags, labels, and unallocated space where there isnt
[23:32] <b0x> however, the HDMI port seems to run through the nvidia card haha
[23:32] <b0x> cant win
[23:32] <b0x> last time i installed nvidia drivers i just got a black screen at login
[23:32] <Rory> Danato: What about the command "sudo fdisk -l" does that show a familiar partition layout?
[23:32] <b0x> and more pain
[23:33] <miike> Rory, my bad i switched nick names by accident i recovered my data with testdisk
[23:33] <ahoneybun> the live image runs the intel but the installed one runs nvidia
[23:33] <Beldar> Danato, This a dual boot, and is this a uefi computer?
[23:33] <Rory> miike: Ah, good to hear!
[23:33] <ubuntuaddicted> running win7 within a virtualbox vm, the host has an AMD graphics card, am I suppose to be able to install and use AMD Catalyst within the VM? I enabled 2d and 3d support but running the AMD catalyst shows no options
[23:33] <Rory> ubuntuaddicted: No! Don't do that
[23:33] <Rory> ubuntuaddicted: The virtualbox presents a virtual graphics adaptor to Windows
[23:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Rory,  i already installed the amd catalyst. guess i'll remove it. lol
[23:34] <Beldar> ahoneybun, Do you have dual cards per-chance?
[23:34] <Rory> ubuntuaddicted: You will get the best performance by installing the Guest Additions for virtualbox in Windows, but you won't get full native 3d graphics performance, ever
[23:34] <ahoneybun> Beldar, intel and nvidia
[23:34] <ubuntuaddicted> Rory, im aware of guest additions. installed that first
[23:34] <ahoneybun> intel on the board and nvidia
[23:35] <Beldar> ahoneybun, Than the nvidia install is per the card being there,
[23:35] <ubuntuaddicted> Rory, i also realize i won't get full native 3d performance. was going to try Warface, it's a free FPS you play in a browser.
[23:35] <Danato> Rory: not really, it shows the same as gparted
[23:35] <ubuntuaddicted> it runs on webgl
[23:35] <Danato> Beldar: its not uefi
[23:35] <Rory> ubuntuaddicted: If you're interested in more detailed stuff I recommend asking #vbox - that's the VirtualBox IRC channel on this network
[23:35] <ahoneybun> Beldar, tbh I would like the use the intel instead as I hear that gets better battery and I don;t really game hard on linux just windows
[23:36] <Beldar> ahoneybun, Basically the computer is supposed to run the intel till it needs the nvidia I believe.
[23:36] <ubuntuaddicted> Rory, ok, thanks
[23:36] <Rory> Danato: It shows what it sees - are you sure you have the correct disk selected? How does it differ from what you were expecting
[23:36] <Beldar> Danato, So how are you seeing this differential with gparted and some other read of the HD?
[23:36] <diverdude> Hellp, for some reason my sound is suddently not working on my ubuntu 12.10 machine. Can anybody help me solve this?
[23:37] <Beldar> !sound | diverdude this may help
[23:38] <Rory> diverdude: Can you open a terminal and run the command "alsamixer" - you will see a bank of faders, move between them with the left anf right arrow keys, and use the up arrow key to ensure they are all at maximum
[23:39] <ahoneybun> Beldar, nope seems I'm using the intel
[23:39] <Beldar> ahoneybun, If you have a working dual card setup I would consider yourself lucky and not rely on what you hear
[23:39] <ahoneybun> Beldar, was a bit of a google search to get it running
[23:39] <Beldar> ahoneybun, Cool sounds like your set.
[23:40] <Danato> Beldar: by booting into windows, there is a partition C where windows is installed, a partition E which is labeled "DATA", a system recovery partition and a tiny partition of 100mb. Gparted sees a 100mb partition labeled DATA and flagged boot, a partition where C is supposed to be with nothing on it and where E is supposed to be it shows unallocated
[23:40] <diverdude> Rory, i will try
[23:41] <diverdude> Rory, sudo aplay -l shows this: aplay: device_list:273: snd_ctl_pcm_next_device    does that look ok?
[23:41] <ahoneybun> Beldar, yea just want more battery
[23:41] <Danato> Beldar: btw theres a circle with an exclamation mark on the left side of all of them
[23:41] <diverdude> Rory, when i run alsamixer it says no such file or directory
[23:41] <Rory> diverdude: Couldn't say, try turning all those faders up first, then check the link from ubottu above
[23:41] <diverdude> Rory, cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[23:41] <Beldar> Danato, You might have a broken partition table, or need to run a chkdsk in windows, unallocated is usually a broken partition table.
[23:42] <Rory> diverdude: Did you try rebooting?
[23:42] <diverdude> Rory, yeah...i can try again
[23:42] <diverdude> Rory,  brb
[23:42] <Beldar> Danato, Or gpt remnants can make an unallocated.
[23:42] <Beldar> uslally the whole HD though
[23:42] <Beldar> usually*
[23:43] <Danato> Beldar: how do make a new table?
[23:43] <Rory> Danato: That will completely erase everything on your disk is that OK?
[23:43] <ubuntuaddicted> Rory, im shocked vbox let me even install the amd catalyst. it even prompted the install of .NET
[23:43] <Beldar> Danato, It would be interesting to see the bootinfo summary from the bootrepair app it would show some details, a new table would wipe the HD.
[23:44] <Danato> Rory: yup
[23:45] <Rory> Danato: then you can use gparted to create a new partition table, in the Device menu
[23:46] <Danato> Rory: what should the new partition table type be? considering that its gonna be a dual boot win 7/ubuntu? gpt?
[23:46] <diverdude> Rory, hmm rebooting solved it. why are these problems coming in ubuntu all the time :/
[23:47] <Rory> Danato: the other one
[23:47] <Beldar> Danato, Was this computer ecer a gpt?
[23:47] <Beldar> ever*
[23:47] <Danato> Rory: msdos?
[23:48] <Rory> diverdude: "turning it off and on again" isn't an ubuntu-specific fix, it solves about 90% of weird intermittent problems on Windows too :P
[23:48] <Rory> Danato: yes
[23:48] <Danato> Beldar: hmm i dont think so, sorry im not so used to this computer, its not my main
[23:48] <Danato> Rory: thanks
[23:49] <matthijs> hello, i need some help fixing ufw
[23:49] <Guest38663> I get the error ERROR: Could not load logging rules
[23:49] <Beldar> Danato, It may be as simple as gpt remnants being there, which there is a fix for without making a new table and wiping the HD.
[23:51] <mvhenten> anyone in here that could help? should i go to another channel?
[23:51] <Beldar> Danato, There is a script we can run to see if there are gpt remnants there and a fix for that.
[23:51] <geekmasterflash> http://i.imgur.com/GuJGIn8.jpg Is Memtest lying to me?
[23:52] <Rory> !ufw | mvhenten have a quick read though this just to be sure
[23:52] <Beldar> Danato, One partiton showing as unallocated smells more like a messed up resizing, a bad table would make the whole disk unallocated and gpt remnants would as well
[23:53] <Danato> Beldar: I dont think that applies to this computer, it was never gpt, my main computer was and I had that problem before
[23:53] <Beldar> Danato, You understand my argument though on bad partition table?
[23:54] <diverdude> Rory, well...maybe another problem is that this machines cannot control cpu temperature :/ So machine gets extremely hot and then freezes or shuts down or behaves unexpectedly :( That happens on a regular basis...this was not a problem when i ran windows on the machine
[23:54] <Beldar> Danato, What is in that E partition that shows as unallocated?
[23:56] <Danato> Beldar: yeah and youre most probably right, my gf resized/repartitioned the disk many times in many parts, something probably got messed up bad there. But im reinstalling the whole thing from 0, so i dont really mind whipping the disk
[23:56] <Beldar> Danato, Okay, cool, I was just willing to help you if you did not want to. ;)
[23:58] <Danato> Beldar: you already helped me :)  thanks a lot
[23:58] <Alumin> anybody familiar with Synaptics touchpads in 12.10?  I have the "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics" package installed, but when I run "synclient -l" I get "Couldn't find synaptics properties.  No synaptics driver loaded?"
[23:58] <Beldar> no prob Danato
[23:58] <Alumin> and sure enough, there's no synaptics driver loaded ("lsmod | grep syn")
[23:59] <Alumin> BUT...the touchpad and all its buttons work fine.  The issue is that I can't use the middle mouse button to scroll