=== connor1 is now known as fartboner === VorteX is now known as CapTech === Guest73855 is now known as mapps [01:06] hello, how can I mount a webdav network share with thunar? [01:09] It'd be worth a shot, I know mount.davfs works. [01:11] Unit193, command line? [01:12] It's a normal mount command, but thunar may do it as well. [01:12] in Gnome/Nautilus, you can just "connect to server", choose webdav, enter the url, done [01:13] but I can't find a "connect to server" equivalent in thunar [01:13] If I enter the URL in hte location bar and press enter, nothing happens [01:14] Unit193, I mean I don't care how I mount it, command line or GUi. THe important things is that I can always see the webdav share in the file manger after that [01:15] :-D "file manger" lol [01:19] Does Go > Open Location do what you want? [01:37] Unit193, no, it doesn't do anything [01:53] OK, then davfs2 and mount.davfs it. [01:54] actually, I think Gigolo is GUI meant for this [01:55] I just mounted a sahare using Gigolo, and when double clicking it, it opens it in the file manager, so I guess that is the solution I was lookin for [01:55] Unit193, still have to check if it sticks across reboots. thanks, have a good one! [03:33] * David-A have tried left-hand-mouse for a couple of weeks, now back to right-hand-mouse [03:37] LOL why, oh why, would you want to do that? ;)) [03:39] I could offer insight but it's inappropriate and extremely off topic. Move along. :) [03:44] my screen is going garbled and everything locks up when i open firefox any ideas? [03:45] Poisoned_Dragon: don't worry, it's not that, not only that [03:45] ObrienDave: some weeks ago i felt some strain in my right-hand-fingers. it has improved sligtly, and now I feel strain in my left shoulder. [03:46] heh, you can't win. === Kratisto is now known as Kratisto78 [03:46] heavy mouse? ;) [03:46] the strain in your shoulder is probably from not being use to it. [03:46] heavy arm [03:48] ObrienDave: to the picture, i have added a separate numeric keypad placed to the left, so I have numeric keypads to both the left and right, and using one where I currently have less finger strain [03:49] smart [03:49] ObrienDave: more to the picture, I have mapped the arrow keys to keypad 4,5,6,+ so I use all 4 fingers for arrow keying. [03:51] ObrienDave: (similar to the h,j,k,l arrows in vim, but different order I think) === map is now known as Guest20773 === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === Guest20773 is now known as mapps === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [08:35] what is the diff btw fglrx and fglrx-updates [08:36] no clue. ari-yang suggests NOT using fglrx [08:40] y [08:40] you'll have to ask them [08:40] oh [08:41] who is ari-yang? [08:41] do you know y Ubuntu is being called Spyware? [08:42] koegs, someone on main ubuntu channel [08:42] Ari-Yang [08:43] Xubuntu 13.10 uses lightdm right? [08:43] ok, because i do not know why you would not want to use fglrx, i am using it on many notebooks :) [08:44] koegs its nonfree n prop. tht is y [08:44] yeah, so? [08:44] i dunno, not sure what the problem was for another user [08:44] They all want us to use Gallium .. which won't work for us .. [08:47] something about removing fglrx and installing mesa video drivers. not really sure what the issue was [08:48] mesa is opensource drivers === z_ is now known as Guest65895 [08:52] is mega safe? [08:54] ubuntu_or_arch: this channel is mainly for xubuntu-support, if you just want to chat about things there is #xubuntu-offtopic :) [09:02] ok [09:06] Xubuntu 14.04 has 3.12.1 [09:07] ubuntu_or_arch: it will have the 3.13 kernel [09:09] baizon no way?? how can it be a LTS then? [09:09] MIR would replace X right? [09:09] no [09:09] posponed until 14.10 [09:10] postponed* [09:10] (at least 14.10) === PiiiRKO is now known as PiiiRKO_kitten_s === PiiiRKO_kitten_s is now known as PiiiRKO [09:23] I completely forgot the terminal commands for searching for drivers when adding hardware... like usb hardware that might need special drivers.. [09:29] Donnie: lsusb will list the usb devices, the modules(linux has modules not drivers) should be loaded by the kernel when the device is found/inserted [09:29] when you insert a usb device running dmesg | tail should show what the kernelcould do for it [10:09] koegs: afaik the place of the gtk3 ini file was changed [10:10] so it might be that apps that haven't been updated to a newer standard look in the wrong place [10:10] but i'm not sure [10:11] strange thing is, in the xubuntu-session everything looks ok, so i am trying to think from that direction [10:11] how does xfce set the theme? [10:12] with xfsettingsd [10:12] obviously that's not the full answer, but i don't know how exactly it does it [10:13] ochosi: thx, that might help, actually, when i start xfsettingsd, the apps use the correct theme, but not the font size, i can work with that [10:15] koegs: good to hear! [10:15] basically you might have to start some of the stuff the xubuntu session starts [10:40] ochosi: thx, works like a charm, only thing is a wrong background on the nm-applet icon in the systray, but i think that has to be fixed in the theme [10:41] koegs: yeah, it's an indicator, no? [10:41] yes [10:41] then you oughta use a theme that themes indicators correctly [10:42] what theme are you using atm? [10:42] ochosi: http://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/simpliX-Xfwm-Xfce-Notify-GTK2-GTK3-346404452 [10:42] ah, i love sixsixfive's stuff [10:43] but he's not using xubuntu, so no indicator support ;) [10:43] shouldn't be very hard to fix though [10:43] ochosi: https://mytestarea.de/ [10:43] there you can see my desktop, only nm-applet is wrong :D [10:44] sweet :) [10:44] looks nice [10:44] it's very far off the default, i like it [10:44] took a lot of work, but i am very happy with it [10:44] yeah, can imagine [10:44] what icons are you using? [10:45] "any color you like" (ACYL 0.9.4) [10:46] ah [10:46] weird, that theme seems to have some problems [10:46] menuitem-hover doesn't work here. [10:47] even in gtk2 [10:47] that's rather odd [10:47] it is white on white? [10:47] yup [10:47] yeah, seen that too, but it did not bother me a lot [10:47] rly? how? :) [10:48] that is not a thing i see very often other than the nm-applet :D [10:48] it's quite a grave issue imo [10:50] koegs: try this, open xfcepanel.theme and add: [10:50] widget "*indicator-applet*" style "xfcepanelsystraytogglebutton" [10:50] widget "*indicator-button*" style "xfcepanelsystraytogglebutton" [10:50] after line 93 [10:50] then restart the panel (xfce4-panel --restart) [10:51] (and if it works, please send it to 665 as a patch) [10:53] can you put it in a pastebin? i think it got broke by pasting it in the irc-client [10:54] ochosi: got it alrady [11:39] ochosi: it seems like in awesome it is not an indicator, but in systray "** Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon" [12:40] hi [12:40] guys pls help me [12:40] hello?? [12:41] anyone there?? [12:41] xubuntu302, sorry, crystal ball is broken. no details, no help. [12:41] cfhowlett wat distro for a 1 gb ram pls.... [12:42] xubuntu302: xubuntu [12:42] :DD [12:43] xubuntu or lubuntu [12:44] cfhowlett: I think xubuntu is best for low pcs [12:51] PiiiRKO, they're pretty close. Use what works for you! [12:52] cfhowlett: true :) [13:20] koegs: ah, then i'm not sure, can't test that right now [14:15] Is ubuntu secure? (therefore xubuntu) [14:15] yes [14:16] xubuntu886, the biggest threat sits between the keyboard and the screen [14:16] what if canonical allowed backdoors? [14:16] xubuntu886: linux is open source, so everybody can review the code [14:17] xubuntu886, it's open source. pretty sure it would be found, don't you think? [14:17] no I read somewhere about binary packages or something that are difficult to read [14:18] ochosi: would it be possible to give me a hint, i am lost when it comes to gtk-theming :( [14:18] xubuntu886: well you can compile everything by yourself from the sources [14:18] koegs: well tbh i'm not sure why that particular trayicon behaves different from the rest [14:18] xubuntu886: the community is to "big", that nobody would notice a backdoor [14:18] I am a windows user, i dont know this stuff [14:19] xubuntu886, as long as you use common sense and think twice before typing your password, you are fine. [14:19] koegs: i can try to patch it a little later [14:20] ochosi: thx a lot, testing can be done by me :) [14:21] koegs: well i have to test it, otherwise i can't *really* fix it ;) [14:21] The community is not big, a very common bug about the sound control is still there after a month of official release [14:21] well put, my dear friend [14:21] xubuntu886: why not compile everything yourself [14:21] how would anyone then see a backdoor? [14:22] koegs: hm, works here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11272013-032148pm.php [14:22] xubuntu886: by reading the source code? [14:22] koegs: that's with xfce4-panel and nm-applet as trayicon [14:22] xubuntu886, the former is a xubuntu-only issue, the latter are ubuntu-wide issues [14:22] ochosi: hm, maybe i need to take a deeper look at my config, when i am at home [14:22] xubuntu886: plenty of people use xubuntu [14:23] koegs: yeah, could be a problem with the icon too [14:23] koegs: but it's hard to say, anyway from the gtk-theme code things look okayish [14:23] xubuntu886: is is a not security-related bug [14:24] i don't use a sound applet i have an external sound card [14:24] knobs+pavucontrol is what i use [14:25] omg I have encrypted the home drive and installation and now I want to encrypt the web [14:25] xubuntu886: if you're so worried about security then compile everything from source [14:25] and other communications [14:25] does being build on debian unstable make it even more unsecure with security holes not known yet? [14:25] why are you so worried about it being "unsecure" anyways [14:26] Don't worry about security on linux as it is more secure by default now [14:26] more secure than what? [14:26] Just encrypt your home drive and yes keep a separate home drive [14:26] xubuntu886: unstable doesnt equals unsecure! [14:27] other platforms Mac OS X and Windows [14:27] i see [14:27] Debian Stable is rock stable! but people want Ubuntu as it is latest! [14:27] Get and read the "Debian-Ubuntu hardening guide" [14:28] from where [14:28] just use damn vulnerable linux [14:28] hurdorbsd: google? [14:28] fartboner, please; unless you can't be helpful, don't post [14:28] i am being helpful [14:30] damn vulnerable linux [14:32] any linux-libre is safe by default + encrypted home folder + secure web practice = Pretty Good Security [14:33] :) [14:33] how can I install the indicator of lts to saucy? [14:34] Simple [14:34] Google it [14:34] :p [14:34] whats the name of that plugin [14:35] hurdorbsd, please; that's not helpful either. [14:35] I was kidding .. which indicator ?? the volume plugin ? [14:36] no the one with chat profile online,away,busy and mail shortcuts [14:36] knome is cracking down today hurdorbsd [14:37] it has a white email icon [14:37] ubuntu has it also [14:38] try to add various panels [14:38] try to add various panel items [14:38] it is not there [14:39] as the release notes say, some of the indicators are broken in 13.10 [14:39] I think they say only for the volume one [14:39] Actually I ve used pretty much raw XFCE so I have no idea .. I used Debian XFCE before .. it was 4.8 raw version almost [14:40] Xubuntu isn't the best xfce Ubuntu I guess [14:41] knome: is the message indicator re-integrated? in 12.10 it was removed [14:41] xubuntu886, there is a general problem with indicators which will be fixed in 14.04 [14:41] koegs, i can't remember exactly, we've unfortunately lost the indicators one by one [14:41] but as i said, they should be all back for 14.04 [14:42] Xubuntu 14.04 would have 3.12 Kernel I think so [14:42] hurdorbsd, what's the point you are trying to make with your comments? [14:42] haha [14:43] found it. It is called indicator-messages [14:43] see i told u [14:44] knome Goto bed u need sleep [14:49] hurdorbsd, not really. [14:51] Trust me you need sleep .. You are so irritated [14:52] hurdorbsd: Use why don't U use the offtopic channel? [14:53] xubuntu886 why is that? [14:53] Is it free ? :p [14:54] gnu friendly [14:57] Oh [14:57] Libre [15:00] well I am off [15:01] hurdorbsd: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/hodor-hodor-hodor-hodor-hodor-18.png [15:49] xubuntu 14.04 is classic try it now [15:49] It's out already? [15:50] Or is it just in RC? [15:50] early alpha, if that [15:50] I don't think we've even hit a beta milestone yet. [15:51] heh [15:52] alpha beta and now with 14.04 we would have a gamma release too [15:52] gamma would be like final build with community reviews and suggestions it would be stable enough already to use [15:52] 12, 13, 14 <- Thats the year when it was/will be releases, .04/.10 <- is the month of the year when it was/will be released [15:52] it is the same every year :) [15:53] It would be released in April [15:54] kernel is latest [15:55] hurdorbsd: once again, this channel is not for chatting [15:57] Chatting ?? [15:57] is this room for sleeping then? [15:57] !ot | hurdorbsd [15:57] hurdorbsd: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [15:58] thx, bazhang :) [15:59] is xubuntu lacking a sysinfo tool [16:00] you could always install one. [16:00] I use inxi, but you can install hardinfo. [16:01] hwinfo? [16:01] sysinfo is in the standard-repository too [16:02] is it hwinfo? [16:02] I know one of them has a gui [16:03] anyhow.... inxi is a nice cli tool for that. [16:03] You can use it to send specs to people on irc support. [16:03] Just has to be used responsibly. [16:04] You can inadvertently flood a room with the wrong options. [16:33] indeed [16:48] what can I do when xubuntu doesn't detect my SSD? [18:14] I keep having problems with Skype.. can't hear the ringing/the caller (tried to change the output devices - nothing) .. guess it's some general bug of skype? [18:19] NuSuey: which version of: skype, xubuntu? [19:42] Hi. I'm having a problem with Xubuntu on my ASUS G46VW. Randomly when I log in, usually about 3/4ths of the time, I will just get a black screen and be unable to interact with the desktop. It doesn't seem that there's a particular problem with Xorg; lightdm works. And my applications have started; I can use my keyboard shortcuts to interact with my screen and keyboard backlights. But there is nothing displayed on the screen. It's all black. [19:42] What do I do to fix this? [20:05] is there any easy way to format a USB stick to luks? [20:05] or, must it be command line? === GTB3NW is now known as GTB3NW_AWAY === Berg is now known as Guest87644 [20:21] Hello! [20:23] Cant properly boot xubuntu 13.10, get soft lock up on one cpu with the following modules linked in: snd_page_alloc(F) snd_seq_midi(F) snd_seq_midi_event(F) snd_rawmidi(F) microcode(F) snd_seq(F) psmouse(F) snd_seq_device(F) snd_timer(F) serio_raw(F) ttm edac_core fam15h_power edac_mce_amd k10temp drm_kms_helper snd(F) drm soundcore(F) sp5100_tco i2c_algo_bit i2c_piix4 parport_pc(F) asus_atk0110 parport(F) wmi mac_hid hid_generic usbhid h [20:23] id pata_acpi dm_raid45 pata_atiixp xor(F) r8169 ohci_pci dm_mirror(F) dm_region_hash(F) dm_log(F) mii(F) ahci(F) libahci(F) [20:25] Any clues? [20:32] hello [20:33] hi berg__ [20:34] saw your question, but don't know the answer; i'd suggest waiting if somebody who does pops up [20:34] cool, thanx [21:07] hi everywone [21:07] helou [21:08] anybare hir? === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW