[01:06] <bennypr0fane> hello, how can I mount a webdav network share with thunar?
[01:09] <Unit193> It'd be worth a shot, I know mount.davfs works.
[01:11] <bennypr0fane> Unit193, command line?
[01:12] <Unit193> It's a normal mount command, but thunar may do it as well.
[01:12] <bennypr0fane> in Gnome/Nautilus, you can just "connect to server", choose webdav, enter the url, done
[01:13] <bennypr0fane> but I can't find a "connect to server" equivalent in thunar
[01:13] <bennypr0fane> If I enter the URL in hte location bar and press enter, nothing happens
[01:14] <bennypr0fane> Unit193, I mean I don't care how I mount it, command line or GUi. THe important things is that I can always see the webdav share in the file manger after that
[01:15] <bennypr0fane> :-D "file manger" lol
[01:19] <Unit193> Does Go > Open Location do what you want?
[01:37] <bennypr0fane> Unit193, no, it doesn't do anything
[01:53] <Unit193> OK, then davfs2 and mount.davfs it.
[01:54] <bennypr0fane> actually, I think Gigolo is GUI meant for this
[01:55] <bennypr0fane> I just mounted a sahare using Gigolo, and when double clicking it, it opens it in the file manager, so I guess that is the solution I was lookin for
[01:55] <bennypr0fane> Unit193, still have to check if it sticks across reboots. thanks, have a good one!
[03:33]  * David-A have tried left-hand-mouse for a couple of weeks, now back to right-hand-mouse
[03:37] <ObrienDave> LOL why, oh why, would you want to do that? ;))
[03:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> I could offer insight but it's inappropriate and extremely off topic. Move along. :)
[03:44] <lennox> my screen is going garbled and everything locks up when i open firefox any ideas?
[03:45] <David-A> Poisoned_Dragon: don't worry, it's not that, not only that
[03:45] <David-A> ObrienDave: some weeks ago i felt some strain in my right-hand-fingers. it has improved sligtly, and now I feel strain in my left shoulder.
[03:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh, you can't win.
[03:46] <ObrienDave> heavy mouse? ;)
[03:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> the strain in your shoulder is probably from not being use to it.
[03:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> heavy arm
[03:48] <David-A> ObrienDave: to the picture, i have added a separate numeric keypad placed to the left, so I have numeric keypads to both the left and right, and using one where I currently have less finger strain
[03:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> smart
[03:49] <David-A> ObrienDave: more to the picture, I have mapped the arrow keys to keypad 4,5,6,+ so I use all 4 fingers for arrow keying.
[03:51] <David-A> ObrienDave: (similar to the h,j,k,l arrows in vim, but different order I think)
[08:35] <ubuntu_or_arch> what is the diff btw fglrx and fglrx-updates
[08:36] <ObrienDave> no clue. ari-yang suggests NOT using fglrx
[08:40] <ubuntu_or_arch> y
[08:40] <ObrienDave> you'll have to ask them
[08:40] <ubuntu_or_arch> oh
[08:41] <koegs> who is ari-yang?
[08:41] <ubuntu_or_arch> do you know y Ubuntu is being called Spyware?
[08:42] <ObrienDave> koegs, someone on main ubuntu channel
[08:42] <ObrienDave> Ari-Yang
[08:43] <ubuntu_or_arch> Xubuntu 13.10 uses lightdm right?
[08:43] <koegs> ok, because i do not know why you would not want to use fglrx, i am using it on many notebooks :)
[08:44] <ubuntu_or_arch> koegs its nonfree n prop. tht is y
[08:44] <koegs> yeah, so?
[08:44] <ObrienDave> i dunno, not sure what the problem was for another user
[08:44] <ubuntu_or_arch> They all want us to use Gallium .. which won't work for us ..
[08:47] <ObrienDave> something about removing fglrx and installing mesa video drivers. not really sure what the issue was
[08:48] <ubuntu_or_arch> mesa is opensource drivers
[08:52] <ubuntu_or_arch> is mega safe?
[08:54] <koegs> ubuntu_or_arch: this channel is mainly for xubuntu-support, if you just want to chat about things there is #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[09:02] <ubuntu_or_arch> ok
[09:06] <ubuntu_or_arch> Xubuntu 14.04 has 3.12.1
[09:07] <baizon> ubuntu_or_arch: it will have  the 3.13 kernel
[09:09] <ubuntu_or_arch> baizon no way?? how can it be a LTS then?
[09:09] <ubuntu_or_arch> MIR would replace X right?
[09:09] <baizon> no
[09:09] <baizon> posponed until 14.10
[09:10] <baizon> postponed*
[09:10] <ochosi> (at least 14.10)
[09:23] <Donnie> I completely forgot the terminal commands for searching for drivers when adding hardware... like usb hardware that might need special drivers..
[09:29] <well_laid_lawn> Donnie:  lsusb will list the usb devices, the modules(linux has modules not drivers) should be loaded by the kernel when the device is found/inserted
[09:29] <well_laid_lawn> when you insert a usb device running   dmesg | tail   should show what the kernelcould do for it
[10:09] <ochosi> koegs: afaik the place of the gtk3 ini file was changed
[10:10] <ochosi> so it might be that apps that haven't been updated to a newer standard look in the wrong place
[10:10] <ochosi> but i'm not sure
[10:11] <koegs> strange thing is, in the xubuntu-session everything looks ok, so i am trying to think from that direction
[10:11] <koegs> how does xfce set the theme?
[10:12] <ochosi> with xfsettingsd
[10:12] <ochosi> obviously that's not the full answer, but i don't know how exactly it does it
[10:13] <koegs> ochosi: thx, that might help, actually, when i start xfsettingsd, the apps use the correct theme, but not the font size, i can work with that
[10:15] <ochosi> koegs: good to hear!
[10:15] <ochosi> basically you might have to start some of the stuff the xubuntu session starts
[10:40] <koegs> ochosi: thx, works like a charm, only thing is a wrong background on the nm-applet icon in the systray, but i think that has to be fixed in the theme
[10:41] <ochosi> koegs: yeah, it's an indicator, no?
[10:41] <koegs> yes
[10:41] <ochosi> then you oughta use a theme that themes indicators correctly
[10:42] <ochosi> what theme are you using atm?
[10:42] <koegs> ochosi: http://sixsixfive.deviantart.com/art/simpliX-Xfwm-Xfce-Notify-GTK2-GTK3-346404452
[10:42] <ochosi> ah, i love sixsixfive's stuff
[10:43] <ochosi> but he's not using xubuntu, so no indicator support ;)
[10:43] <ochosi> shouldn't be very hard to fix though
[10:43] <koegs> ochosi: https://mytestarea.de/
[10:43] <koegs> there you can see my desktop, only nm-applet is wrong :D
[10:44] <ochosi> sweet :)
[10:44] <ochosi> looks nice
[10:44] <ochosi> it's very far off the default, i like it
[10:44] <koegs> took a lot of work, but i am very happy with it
[10:44] <ochosi> yeah, can imagine
[10:44] <ochosi> what icons are you using?
[10:45] <koegs> "any color you like" (ACYL 0.9.4)
[10:46] <ochosi> ah
[10:46] <ochosi> weird, that theme seems to have some problems
[10:46] <ochosi> menuitem-hover doesn't work here.
[10:47] <ochosi> even in gtk2
[10:47] <ochosi> that's rather odd
[10:47] <koegs> it is white on white?
[10:47] <ochosi> yup
[10:47] <koegs> yeah, seen that too, but it did not bother me a lot
[10:47] <ochosi> rly? how? :)
[10:48] <koegs> that is not a thing i see very often other than the nm-applet :D
[10:48] <ochosi> it's quite a grave issue imo
[10:50] <ochosi> koegs: try this, open xfcepanel.theme and add:
[10:50] <ochosi> widget "*indicator-applet*"		style "xfcepanelsystraytogglebutton"
[10:50] <ochosi> widget "*indicator-button*"		style "xfcepanelsystraytogglebutton"
[10:50] <ochosi> after line 93
[10:50] <ochosi> then restart the panel (xfce4-panel --restart)
[10:51] <ochosi> (and if it works, please send it to 665 as a patch)
[10:53] <koegs> can you put it in a pastebin? i think it got broke by pasting it in the irc-client
[10:54] <koegs> ochosi: got it alrady
[11:39] <koegs> ochosi: it seems like in awesome it is not an indicator, but in systray "** Message: using fallback from indicator to GtkStatusIcon"
[12:40] <xubuntu302> hi
[12:40] <xubuntu302> guys pls help me
[12:40] <xubuntu302> hello??
[12:41] <xubuntu302> anyone there??
[12:41] <cfhowlett> xubuntu302, sorry, crystal ball is broken.   no details, no help.
[12:41] <xubuntu302> cfhowlett wat distro for a 1 gb ram pls....
[12:42] <PiiiRKO> xubuntu302: xubuntu
[12:42] <PiiiRKO> :DD
[12:43] <cfhowlett> xubuntu or lubuntu
[12:44] <PiiiRKO> cfhowlett: I think xubuntu is best for low pcs
[12:51] <cfhowlett> PiiiRKO, they're pretty close.  Use what works for you!
[12:52] <PiiiRKO> cfhowlett: true :)
[13:20] <ochosi> koegs: ah, then i'm not sure, can't test that right now
[14:15] <xubuntu886> Is ubuntu secure? (therefore xubuntu)
[14:15] <cfhowlett> yes
[14:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu886, the biggest threat sits between the keyboard and the screen
[14:16] <xubuntu886> what if canonical allowed backdoors?
[14:16] <baizon> xubuntu886: linux is open source, so everybody can review the code
[14:17] <cfhowlett> xubuntu886, it's open source.  pretty sure it would be found, don't you think?
[14:17] <xubuntu886> no I read somewhere about binary packages or something that are difficult to read
[14:18] <koegs> ochosi: would it be possible to give me a hint, i am lost when it comes to gtk-theming :(
[14:18] <baizon> xubuntu886: well you can compile everything by yourself from the sources
[14:18] <ochosi> koegs: well tbh i'm not sure why that particular trayicon behaves different from the rest
[14:18] <baizon> xubuntu886: the community is to "big", that nobody would notice a backdoor
[14:18] <xubuntu886> I am a windows user, i dont know this stuff
[14:19] <knome> xubuntu886, as long as you use common sense and think twice before typing your password, you are fine.
[14:19] <ochosi> koegs: i can try to patch it a little later
[14:20] <koegs> ochosi: thx a lot, testing can be done by me :)
[14:21] <ochosi> koegs: well i have to test it, otherwise i can't *really* fix it ;)
[14:21] <xubuntu886> The community is not big, a very common bug about the sound control is still there after a month of official release
[14:21] <koegs> well put, my dear friend
[14:21] <fartboner> xubuntu886: why not compile everything yourself
[14:21] <xubuntu886> how would anyone then see a backdoor?
[14:22] <ochosi> koegs: hm, works here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-11272013-032148pm.php
[14:22] <fartboner> xubuntu886: by reading the source code?
[14:22] <ochosi> koegs: that's with xfce4-panel and nm-applet as trayicon
[14:22] <knome> xubuntu886, the former is a xubuntu-only issue, the latter are ubuntu-wide issues
[14:22] <koegs> ochosi: hm, maybe i need to take a deeper look at my config, when i am at home
[14:22] <fartboner> xubuntu886: plenty of people use xubuntu
[14:23] <ochosi> koegs: yeah, could be a problem with the icon too
[14:23] <ochosi> koegs: but it's hard to say, anyway from the gtk-theme code things look okayish
[14:23] <baizon> xubuntu886: is is a not security-related bug
[14:24] <fartboner> i don't use a sound applet i have an external sound card
[14:24] <fartboner> knobs+pavucontrol is what i use
[14:25] <hurdorbsd> omg I have encrypted the home drive and installation and now I want to encrypt the web
[14:25] <fartboner> xubuntu886: if you're so worried about security then compile everything from source
[14:25] <hurdorbsd> and other communications
[14:25] <xubuntu886> does being build on debian unstable make it even more unsecure with security holes not known yet?
[14:25] <fartboner> why are you so worried about it being "unsecure" anyways
[14:26] <hurdorbsd> Don't worry about security on linux as it is more secure by default now
[14:26] <fartboner> more secure than what?
[14:26] <hurdorbsd> Just encrypt your home drive and yes keep a separate home drive
[14:26] <baizon> xubuntu886: unstable doesnt equals unsecure!
[14:27] <hurdorbsd> other platforms Mac OS X and Windows
[14:27] <xubuntu886> i  see
[14:27] <hurdorbsd> Debian Stable is rock stable! but people want Ubuntu as it is latest!
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Get and read the "Debian-Ubuntu hardening guide"
[14:28] <hurdorbsd> from where
[14:28] <fartboner> just use damn vulnerable linux
[14:28] <fartboner> hurdorbsd: google?
[14:28] <knome> fartboner, please; unless you can't be helpful, don't post
[14:28] <fartboner> i am being helpful
[14:30] <hurdorbsd> damn vulnerable linux
[14:32] <hurdorbsd> any linux-libre is safe by default + encrypted home folder + secure web practice = Pretty Good Security
[14:33] <xubuntu886> :)
[14:33] <xubuntu886> how can I install the indicator of lts to saucy?
[14:34] <hurdorbsd> Simple
[14:34] <hurdorbsd> Google it
[14:34] <hurdorbsd> :p
[14:34] <xubuntu886> whats the name of that plugin
[14:35] <knome> hurdorbsd, please; that's not helpful either.
[14:35] <hurdorbsd> I was kidding .. which indicator ?? the volume plugin ?
[14:36] <xubuntu886> no the one with chat profile online,away,busy and mail shortcuts
[14:36] <fartboner> knome is cracking down today hurdorbsd
[14:37] <xubuntu886> it has a white email icon
[14:37] <xubuntu886> ubuntu has it also
[14:38] <hurdorbsd> try to add various panels
[14:38] <hurdorbsd> try to add various panel items
[14:38] <xubuntu886> it is not there
[14:39] <knome> as the release notes say, some of the indicators are broken in 13.10
[14:39] <xubuntu886> I think they say only for the volume one
[14:39] <hurdorbsd> Actually I ve used pretty much raw XFCE so I have no idea .. I used Debian XFCE before .. it was 4.8 raw version almost
[14:40] <hurdorbsd> Xubuntu isn't the best xfce Ubuntu I guess
[14:41] <koegs> knome: is the message indicator re-integrated? in 12.10 it was removed
[14:41] <knome> xubuntu886, there is a general problem with indicators which will be fixed in 14.04
[14:41] <knome> koegs, i can't remember exactly, we've unfortunately lost the indicators one by one
[14:41] <knome> but as i said, they should be all back for 14.04
[14:42] <hurdorbsd> Xubuntu 14.04 would have 3.12 Kernel I think so
[14:42] <knome> hurdorbsd, what's the point you are trying to make with your comments?
[14:42] <xubuntu886> haha
[14:43] <xubuntu886> found it. It is called indicator-messages
[14:43] <hurdorbsd> see i told u
[14:44] <hurdorbsd> knome Goto bed u need sleep
[14:49] <knome> hurdorbsd, not really.
[14:51] <hurdorbsd> Trust me you need sleep .. You are so irritated
[14:52] <xubuntu886> hurdorbsd: Use why don't U use the offtopic channel?
[14:53] <hurdorbsd> xubuntu886 why is that?
[14:53] <hurdorbsd> Is it free ? :p
[14:54] <xubuntu886> gnu friendly
[14:57] <hurdorbsd> Oh
[14:57] <hurdorbsd> Libre
[15:00] <xubuntu886> well I am off
[15:01] <xubuntu886> hurdorbsd: http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/hodor-hodor-hodor-hodor-hodor-18.png
[15:49] <hurdorbsd> xubuntu 14.04 is classic try it now
[15:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> It's out already?
[15:50] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or is it just in RC?
[15:50] <bazhang> early alpha, if that
[15:50] <Pici> I don't think we've even hit a beta milestone yet.
[15:51] <Poisoned_Dragon> heh
[15:52] <hurdorbsd> alpha beta and now with 14.04 we would have a gamma release too
[15:52] <hurdorbsd> gamma would be like final build with community reviews and suggestions it would be stable enough already to use
[15:52] <koegs> 12, 13, 14 <- Thats the year when it was/will be releases, .04/.10 <- is the month of the year when it was/will be released
[15:52] <koegs> it is the same every year :)
[15:53] <hurdorbsd> It would be released in April
[15:54] <hurdorbsd> kernel is latest
[15:55] <koegs> hurdorbsd: once again, this channel is not for chatting
[15:57] <hurdorbsd> Chatting ??
[15:57] <hurdorbsd> is this room for sleeping then?
[15:57] <bazhang> !ot | hurdorbsd
[15:58] <koegs> thx, bazhang :)
[15:59] <hurdorbsd> is xubuntu lacking a sysinfo tool
[16:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> you could always install one.
[16:00] <Poisoned_Dragon> I use inxi, but you can install hardinfo.
[16:01] <bazhang> hwinfo?
[16:01] <koegs> sysinfo is in the standard-repository too
[16:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> is it hwinfo?
[16:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> I know one of them has a gui
[16:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> anyhow.... inxi is a nice cli tool for that.
[16:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can use it to send specs to people on irc support.
[16:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just has to be used responsibly.
[16:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> You can inadvertently flood a room with the wrong options.
[16:33] <GridCube> indeed
[16:48] <Bor0> what can I do when xubuntu doesn't detect my SSD?
[18:14] <NuSuey> I keep having problems with Skype.. can't hear the ringing/the caller (tried to change the output devices - nothing) .. guess it's some general bug of skype?
[18:19] <baizon> NuSuey: which version of: skype, xubuntu?
[19:42] <TiZ> Hi. I'm having a problem with Xubuntu on my ASUS G46VW. Randomly when I log in, usually about 3/4ths of the time, I will just get a black screen and be unable to interact with the desktop. It doesn't seem that there's a particular problem with Xorg; lightdm works. And my applications have started; I can use my keyboard shortcuts to interact with my screen and keyboard backlights. But there is nothing displayed on the screen. It's all black.
[19:42] <TiZ>  What do I do to fix this?
[20:05] <brauleinchen> is there any easy way to format a USB stick to luks?
[20:05] <brauleinchen> or, must it be command line?
[20:21] <Guest87644> Hello!
[20:23] <Guest87644> Cant properly boot xubuntu 13.10, get soft lock up on one cpu with the following modules linked in: snd_page_alloc(F) snd_seq_midi(F) snd_seq_midi_event(F) snd_rawmidi(F) microcode(F) snd_seq(F) psmouse(F) snd_seq_device(F) snd_timer(F) serio_raw(F) ttm edac_core fam15h_power edac_mce_amd k10temp drm_kms_helper snd(F) drm soundcore(F) sp5100_tco i2c_algo_bit i2c_piix4 parport_pc(F) asus_atk0110 parport(F) wmi mac_hid hid_generic usbhid h
[20:23] <Guest87644> id pata_acpi dm_raid45 pata_atiixp xor(F) r8169 ohci_pci dm_mirror(F) dm_region_hash(F) dm_log(F) mii(F) ahci(F) libahci(F)
[20:25] <Guest87644> Any clues?
[20:32] <berg__> hello
[20:33] <knome> hi berg__
[20:34] <knome> saw your question, but don't know the answer; i'd suggest waiting if somebody who does pops up
[20:34] <berg__> cool, thanx
[21:07] <xubuntu244> hi everywone
[21:07] <xubuntu244> helou
[21:08] <xubuntu244> anybare hir?