[00:00] <hatch> hmm looking
[00:05] <huwshimi> brb, no internet for a minute
[00:14] <gary_poster> bye! :-)
[00:26] <hatch> cya! enjoy
[01:39] <hatch> hey huwshimi  you back?
[01:43] <huwshimi> hey, just eating lunch :)
[01:44] <hatch> so I have found, what I think, is a better interaction for this
[01:44] <hatch> but the 'real fix' is definitely more work than a few css changes
[01:44] <hatch> :)
[01:46] <hatch> huwshimi https://www.evernote.com/shard/s219/sh/2bb94753-f005-4d74-84ae-0391af2f97d8/642565e6e3a320bfd846db0ad5d1f424
[01:47] <hatch> when you scroll, the first line of text sticks with the minimizing header
[01:47] <hatch> but the eye can easily follow it during the animation
[01:47] <hatch> you will have to play with the height value to make it fit your screen
[01:47] <hatch> this change will likely need to be done in a follow-up though because the height calculation will need to be done in js
[01:48] <hatch> or maybe you have a nicer approach :) but this is just what I came up with before I had supper
[02:17] <huwshimi> hmmm...
[02:46] <hatch> wha-da-ya-think>
[02:53] <hatch> huwshimi ^
[02:54] <huwshimi> hatch: I think this is very difficult to do with it being a bit strange somehow...
[02:58] <hatch> right, but what did you think of my impl? Were you able to see it?
[03:00] <huwshimi> hatch: The difference is that you don't try and compensate for the scroll?
[03:00] <huwshimi> I mean, reposition the text back to where it was...
[03:00] <hatch> right, it just slides with the header
[03:00] <hatch> but there is no 'jump' so your eye can follow it really easily
[03:00] <hatch> darn I wish I could record it somehow
[03:01] <huwshimi> hatch: But wasn't that the issue we didn't like in Burlingame?
[03:01] <hatch> do we have that prototype somewhere?
[03:01] <huwshimi> hatch: one sec
[03:02] <huwshimi> hatch: actually you can do it with mine with a one line change (instead of all the changes you made)
[03:02] <hatch> I'm listening :)
[03:03] <huwshimi> hatch: content-panel.less line 79 change to padding-top: 0;
[03:05] <hatch> oh lol
[03:05]  * hatch turns red
[03:05] <hatch> I like that better :D
[03:05] <huwshimi> hatch: OK :)
[03:05] <huwshimi> hatch: Let's go with that till someone complains :)
[03:06] <huwshimi> hatch: Don't worry, I had the advantage of knowing I'd added that extra padding :)
[03:06] <hatch> haha
[03:06] <hatch> so awesome then - and the js changes you understood?
[03:07] <huwshimi> hatch: Yeah, I think so. Going to make those changes now.
[03:07] <hatch> awesome
[03:25] <hatch> Makyo is there any extra setup that needs to be done to qa this guiserver branch? I don't think I've ever run one of those b4
[03:25] <Makyo> hatch, nah, don't think so. I just ran into some weird timeouts.
[03:25] <hatch> ok I'll give it a go sometime here
[04:07] <hatch> huwshimi just saw your reply, can you not get the tabs container from the tab?
[04:08] <hatch> this.tabview.item(e.newTab).get('container')
[04:08] <hatch> something like that?
[04:08] <hatch> e.newTab may not be correct, wherever the tab id is in the event object
[04:11] <huwshimi> hatch: Yeah, but the prev/next node is the link to the tab, not the tab contents
[04:11] <huwshimi> brb, internet
[04:15] <hatch> heh what's up with the internet?
[04:16] <rick_h_> Makyo: thanks for the hint on how to gravatar an org up on github. 
[04:17] <huwshimi> hatch: Just working from a mate's place and he's just connected to fibre today.
[04:17] <huwshimi> hatch: So was switching over from adsl to fibre just then
[04:19] <hatch> ohh so now you'll be all speedy
[04:19] <huwshimi> :)
[04:19] <huwshimi> hatch: Probably a few months before my fibre connection goes in.
[04:21] <hatch> :) I can get fiber as well for the same $ I'm paying now for about twice the speed heh
[04:21] <hatch> but they are so backlogged with installs who the heck knows when it'll be available
[04:21] <huwshimi> hatch: :(
[04:26] <hatch> oh well
[04:26] <hatch> the brand new areas of course have it pre-installed heh
[04:27] <hatch> but I'm in an older area so lots more directional drilling required I guess
[04:33] <huwshimi> hatch: Did the prev/next elements being the links not the content make sense?
[04:33] <hatch> huwshimi yeah I tested it myself, it's been a while since I've done tabview stuff
[04:33] <hatch> it's an odd one that's for sure
[04:36] <huwshimi> hatch: Are you happy with the branch then?
[04:36] <hatch> you bet
[04:36] <hatch> let-r-rip
[04:36] <huwshimi> cheers
[04:36] <hatch>  /translate english
[04:36] <hatch> thanks
[04:36] <hatch> yeah no problem
[04:37] <hatch> lol
[04:37] <hatch> oh I crack myself up
[04:39] <huwshimi> hatch: Oh, I was trying to clink a glass with you.
[04:41] <hatch> oh crap
[04:41] <hatch> lol
[04:42] <huwshimi> :D
[04:43] <hatch> Makyo doesn't look like I can run it, I got some error about 'Cannot build extension "Bzrlib._annotator_pyx"' whatever that means
[04:48] <Makyo> Boo.  Will peek again tomorrow
[04:48] <Makyo> Bed for now.
[04:48] <hatch> night
[13:33] <frankban> hatch: ping
[14:00] <hatch> morning
[14:42] <hatch> frankban so I tried to qa your branch but ran into an error
[14:42] <hatch> 'Cannot build extension "Bzrlib._annotator_pyx"'
[14:42] <hatch> it was about a minute thirty in
[14:43] <frankban> hatch: could you please run "make sysdeps" before the tests?
[14:43] <hatch> ok I think I'll need to pull down the branch again
[14:43] <hatch> I'll keep you posted
[14:53] <hatch> frankban unable to locate package libpython-dev
[14:53] <hatch> i'll install it, but maybe we should add that to the installer
[14:53] <hatch> hmm nope even apt can't find it
[14:54] <frankban> hatch: sysdeps uses apt to install the package
[14:54] <hatch> ok so I apparently can't get that package on Quantal
[14:54] <frankban> hatch: apt-cache search libpython-dev?
[14:55] <hatch> yeah nothing
[14:55] <frankban> hatch: that's weird
[14:55] <hatch> yeah definitely
[14:55] <frankban> hatch: apt-get update && apt-cache search libpython-dev
[14:56] <hatch> well I would assume it would be in the apt cache since yesterdays update heh but I'll check again :D
[14:57] <frankban> hatch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libpython-dev&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[14:57] <hatch> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=quantal&searchon=names&keywords=libpython-dev
[14:57] <frankban> hatch: do you have python-dev?
[14:57] <hatch> sorry I'll have to setup a vm I guess
[14:58] <hatch> yes
[14:59] <frankban> ok, so you cant try with that one, and then "apt-get install build-essential bzr libapt-pkg-dev python-virtualenv  rsync xvfb"
[14:59] <frankban> hatch: also firefox/X are required to run the selenium tests
[15:00] <frankban> hatch: so, if your vm is server-only, the only solution is to install a new saucy desktop vm :-/
[15:13] <hatch> well i'm trying on my laptop because my local vm is totally hosed :)
[15:13] <hatch> will try those
[15:17] <hatch> so many python packages
[15:20] <hatch> now juju-test is missing
[15:20] <hatch> lol
[15:26] <hatch> frankban sorry this just isn't going to work
[15:27] <hatch> now it says it can't open the private key.pem
[15:27] <frankban> hatch: what?
[15:28] <hatch> it can't open the private key file 
[15:28] <hatch> then when I try to use sudo it can't find the juju-test command
[15:30] <frankban> hatch: ok, I don't know what's going on, so you cannot use juju in that machine I guess
[15:30] <hatch> I use it all the time
[15:30] <hatch> but to bootstrap I have to use sudo
[15:30] <hatch> and this command won't let me be sudo
[15:38] <hatch> frankban so just land it :)
[15:41] <frankban> hatch: aha! juju-test does not support the local provider, you have to use ec2
[15:43] <hatch> well the issue that it's having is that it can't open the key file for ec2 because it doesn't have permissions unless its run under sudo
[15:43] <hatch> but I can't run it under sudo because for some reason it can't find juju-test when I do
[15:50] <frankban> hatch: why your ec2 key requires sudo?
[15:51] <hatch> no idea
[15:51] <hatch> I can change it i guess
[15:52] <hatch> ok now lets see what happens
[15:58] <hatch> frankban it appears to be running now
[15:58] <hatch> "Running 20-functional.test"
[15:58] <hatch> it's been here a while
[15:59] <hatch> it's a slow machine though so probably fine
[15:59] <frankban> hatch: the suite should take ~25 mins
[16:00] <frankban> hatch: and the first test (test_deployer) is the slowest
[16:00] <hatch> ahh ok
[16:01] <hatch> ahh there go the others
[16:16] <hatch> frankban QA OK
[16:16] <frankban> hatch: great! thanks a lot
[16:16] <frankban> hatch: how much time?
[16:17] <hatch> 23m39.657s
[16:17] <hatch> nice and speedy :)
[16:39] <frankban> cool
[17:54] <hatch> frankban hey are you going to land that branch today?
[17:54] <hatch> I'm going to need room on the kanban board ;)
[17:55] <frankban> hatch: landing now, making room
[17:56] <hatch> awesome
[22:01] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:01] <hatch> hey huwshimi 
[22:01] <hatch> hows it going?
[22:01] <huwshimi> hatch: Good! Yourself?
[22:01] <hatch> good good, it was sure quiet today
[22:01] <hatch> haha
[22:03] <huwshimi> hatch: :)
[22:04] <hatch> The best thing about the US Thanksgiving is all of the 'black friday' sales that spill over into Canada
[22:04] <huwshimi> hatch: Yeah, we get those too.
[22:05] <huwshimi> hatch: Might try and get a couple of things for the new Air
[22:06] <hatch> I picked up a snowboarding backpack from NorthFace
[22:06] <hatch> I refused to pay full price but I really wanted one so it couldn't have come at a better time :)
[22:06] <hatch> not sure if they have North Face there..
[22:07] <hatch> http://www.thenorthface.com/
[22:10] <huwshimi> hatch: Nice, yeah we have them here
[22:11] <hatch> well made stuff but serious $
[22:34] <hatch> so many CD's, nothing to listen to
[22:34] <hatch> oh sorry, Albums
[22:54] <huwshimi> :)
[22:54] <hatch> it's kind of funny that when they were on records they were albums, then went to tapes, cds, and now back to albums
[22:54] <hatch> :)
[22:54] <hatch> proof that records are the best?
[22:59] <huwshimi> hatch: A lot of people still call them records
[22:59] <hatch> are they 90?
[23:00] <huwshimi> heh
[23:00] <hatch> haha
[23:00] <hatch> one of my dogs was just dragging his bowl around
[23:00] <hatch> I wonder if that's a hint
[23:11] <hatch> found a good ALBUM to listen to
[23:11] <hatch> Bon Jovi - Keep The Faith
[23:12] <hatch> 1992!