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marufassalamualaikum01:21
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jarkkomy system says that new version of kubuntu is available - i am using 13.1003:13
jarkko??03:13
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jarkkohow is this possible03:15
jarkkosudo apt-get update, upgrade dist-upgrade none shows new packages03:15
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DarthFrogjarkko:  That's because you need to do "sudo do-release-upgrade" instead of apt-get.06:17
jarkkowell i solved that one already06:29
jussijarkko: how did the upgrade go?06:50
lordievaderGood morning.06:51
jarkkoi just dont understand why kubuntu said that i have new KUBUNTU version06:53
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31NAAA2T8Hi, kubunters!07:24
lordievaderGood morning 31NAAA2T807:30
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esingHi, should I use kde's autostart gui to enable a service on boot or should I add it to /etc/rclocal or even somewhere else?10:41
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apacheloggeresing: depends on when you want it to start10:59
apacheloggerkde's austostart gui will usually be best for things that only need to run when one is logged in10:59
esingapachelogger※ I chose /etc/rc.local because I don't need a UI for the service11:00
apacheloggeresing: it's regardless of whether it needs a UI11:00
apacheloggerkde's autostart is only executed when one logs in... rc.local is started at init11:00
esingI see, in my case it doesn't matter whether it starts at init or later11:01
apacheloggeralso unless you define a user rc.local will be executed as root, which may be a bad thing (again, depending on what service you want to run)11:01
apacheloggeresing: kde's autostart should be preferred then because of the root thing11:02
esingapachelogger※ I thought rc.local is predefined to be executed as root?11:02
esingOh I see what you mean11:03
esingThe service requires to be started as root anyways11:03
apacheloggeresing: ah, use rc.local then11:05
apacheloggerit's a silly thing if it requires to be started as root though :P11:05
esingapachelogger※ apache2 or other webservers have to be run as root too iirc11:06
esingAnd the service I need in this case is 'knockd' which lets me open ports through iptables remotetly11:07
apacheloggeresing: apache most certainly doesn't need to be run as root, possible started to get the port open, definitely not run though11:08
apacheloggerI should know, I log the apaches ;)11:09
esingHeh :)11:09
BluesKaj_Hiyas all11:58
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esingI tried to start a service on autostart with /etc/rc.local -> /etc/init.d/knockd start and with kde autostart as a script (/home/user/knockd.sh): #!/bin/sh /etc/init.d/knockd start, but both ways don't work for this service. I read that there's a bug with the services autostart, but if I run /etc/init.d/knockd start after bootup it works, so I wonder why it's not working when I put it in kde's autostart which executes it also after bootup?12:21
esing*script12:21
BluesKajesing. does knockd also reside in /home , perhaps autostart sees in in init.d and assumes it's on , I know that the dropboxd script works in autostart without residing in init.d or /etc/local12:31
esingBluesKaj, Knockd resides not in /home. I only put the script from which I call /etc/init.d/knockd start into /home12:35
BluesKajesing. did you check hidden files ?12:36
esingYes12:36
BluesKaj /usr/bin ?12:37
esingBluesKaj, Yes, there is its client 'knock'12:39
BluesKajesing. but knockd is the script , so where does it reside by default ?12:41
esingBluesKaj, Its conf files are in /etc/knockd.conf /etc/default/knockd and /etc/init.d/knockd12:44
esingBluesKaj, And here: /usr/sbin/knockd12:45
BluesKajesing set autostart to point to /etc/default/knockd , or /usr/sbin/knockd to see if that works12:46
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esingBluesKaj, I put /usr/sbin/knockd into kde's autostart and in rc.local and both didn't work. /etc/default/knockd is just anoother conf file12:49
BluesKajesing. system settings > startup&shutdown>autostart ?12:51
esingBluesKaj, Yes, there12:57
esingI added it as a script to the location /usr/sbin/knockd12:58
esingI added it also a program, but on the next reboot it vanishes from the autostart program list12:58
esing+as12:58
BluesKajadd it as a script only , if that's what it is13:00
esingIt's actually a binary program13:03
esingBut if I start its service I use the paramter /etc/init.d/knockd start13:04
esingBluesKaj, It works if I run it with sudo and set sudo /etc/init.d/knockd start without password in sudoers13:36
esingSo I wonder how I can run root scripts without sudo no password in kde's autostart13:37
esingBut I guess, since root owns the places /etc/init.d/knockd and /usr/sbin/knockd anyways it should be safe enough13:43
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pic01in Kubuntu 12.04 how can I change my username?13:51
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calwig!kgpg15:29
calwigguidelines to set it up anyone?15:29
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Tm_Tuh, is the network systray icon supposed to open some kind of configuration dialog or something where I could choose for example wifi networks? clicking the icon does nothing here18:17
Tm_TKubuntu 13.10 with KDE SC 4.11.318:18
Tm_TI think18:18
BluesKajadd widgets in the panel , network , network manager should appear , choose that , Tm_T18:30
Tm_TBluesKaj: yeah I have that, exactly the icon I was talking about (:18:38
DutchmanTm_T: what happens if you right-click on the icon?19:00
Tm_TDutchman: gives me an option to configure what is shown19:08
DutchmanTm_T: I'm not at all sure why it's not working normally, but perhaps you can try clicking on "Defaults" on the lower part of the config dialog, see if that brings it back.19:12
DutchmanRe-set it basically.19:12
Tm_Toh that I'm not going to do, it seems that the network manager widget doesnt work here on systray19:13
DutchmanTm_T: I have the same version, 4.11.3, and it does work here, so I can't see it being the widget. Thought maybe resetting if might bring back the left-click menu.19:15
soeeRiddell, i just checked telepathy19:18
soeesorry19:18
DutchmanTm_T: If you right-click, and open the network management settings dialog, does it show anything in the right side panel, under "Details to Show"?19:18
Tm_TDutchman: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/nm-applet1.png19:22
Tm_Tremoving and readding widget makes no difference19:22
DutchmanTm_T: Well, your settings look right, so I have no idea past that what could be wrong. I have seen widget problems in the past with themes, have you tried a different Plasma theme, just to test?19:28
SJrKubuntu 13.10, worth it?19:36
soeeits priceless19:38
CrellHi folks.  I've just updated to 13.10 on my laptop and I'm working out the kinks.19:44
CrellOne kink is that the taskbar at the bottom of the screen is now black.19:45
CrellIt's completely black, with the buttons and icons and such on top of that, which makes them really hard to read.19:45
kaddiianyone know any good benchmarking tools for ubuntu... wanna see how a laptop handles heat19:45
CrellIs that a render issue, or a setting, or...?19:45
soeeCrell, this shouldnt happen19:46
soeemaybe gfx issue ?19:46
CrellI agree, it shouldn't. :-)19:46
CrellThat's what I am trying to find out.19:46
soeetry do disable/enable effects19:46
soeectrl+shift+f1219:46
CrellThat seems to do nothing.19:47
CrellI don't have many effects enabled in the first place.19:47
kaddiiah wait.. sorry guys... the live-usb actually runs gnome19:47
kaddiianyone know any good benchmarking tools for ubuntu... wanna see how a laptop handles heat19:47
soeeCrell, maybe try to remove panel and add it again19:48
CrellHm.19:48
CrellIt's the entire plasma bar, or whatever it's called these days.19:48
CrellOh good.  Now I can't get to the settings menu because the damned calendar popup is in the way, and is covering the clock so I can't minimize it again. :-)19:49
CrellAh ha!19:50
soee:)19:50
CrellYes, remove and re-add the default seems to have worked.19:50
Crell'course, now I have to re-customize it...19:50
CrellAnd now it's a fugly light gray.19:50
soeeits probalby you had some settings from previous installation19:50
CrellAnd they didn't upgrade cleanly?19:50
soeeenable effects19:50
soeerename .kde folder19:51
soeelogout/login and setup everything from scratch19:51
CrellThe entire .kde folder?19:51
soeejust rename it so it will be recreated19:51
CrellUgh.  I thought updates were supposed to be stable enough these days that I don't need to reset everything.19:51
CrellThe .kde folder contains a lot of application settings I don't want to redo.19:52
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Juan32hello, any to talk?22:16
Juan32hola22:20
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