| nuvolari | o/ mornings | 05:12 |
|---|---|---|
| SilverCode | anyone here work at, or know someone who works at Obsidian Systems and knows what is up with their jabber server? | 05:14 |
| Kilos | morning superfly mazal psychicist and lurkers | 05:21 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 05:22 |
| superfly | morning nuvolari and SilverCode | 05:22 |
| mazal | Morning everyone | 05:23 |
| superfly | SilverCode: not a clue. i stopped using it a while ago because my only contact was my wife | 05:23 |
| Kilos | what did i miss | 05:24 |
| superfly | and we moved to Google talk when we got android phones | 05:24 |
| superfly | mazal: Ohi | 05:24 |
| SilverCode | superfly: sadly I have quite a few work contacts on jabber.co.za still, but would love to move away from it. Seems the server dies every 2nd day now | 05:26 |
| superfly | it's never been reliable | 05:26 |
| superfly | don't they have contact details on the site? | 05:27 |
| SilverCode | which doesn't give me much confidence in their hosting abilities :) | 05:27 |
| SilverCode | heh, the first thing on their site says "Reliable System Monitoring" | 05:28 |
| SilverCode | clearly not | 05:28 |
| SilverCode | on email address listed on their site, only phone numbers and a silly contact form | 05:30 |
| SilverCode | *on = no | 05:30 |
| Kilos | hi SilverCode | 05:36 |
| kbmonkey | morning | 05:36 |
| Kilos | ohi kbmonkey | 05:36 |
| kbmonkey | just popping in to say hello :] | 05:37 |
| Kilos | hello young man | 05:37 |
| kbmonkey | not that young anymore! | 05:38 |
| Kilos | when you over 50 you not that young | 05:38 |
| kbmonkey | well I am over halfway there! | 05:38 |
| SilverCode | hi Kilos | 05:38 |
| Kilos | haha | 05:39 |
| Kilos | you struggling with jabber SilverCode ? | 05:39 |
| Kilos | tell me when you fix it | 05:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 05:41 |
| Kilos | you well kbmonkey ? | 05:42 |
| kbmonkey | yes Kilos and you? | 05:42 |
| Kilos | ohi not_found lost again i see | 05:42 |
| * Kilos good today ty | 05:42 | |
| Kilos | we had 4mm rain last night and massive storm | 05:43 |
| Kilos | hard living in semi arid country | 05:43 |
| Kilos | yo bduk | 05:44 |
| kbmonkey | is 4mm measured over 1 sqr meter Kilos ? | 05:44 |
| Kilos | in a rain gauge | 05:45 |
| Kilos | so i gues thats 4mm over the whole area | 05:45 |
| kbmonkey | okay, I will google to find out :) | 05:45 |
| nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos, kbmonkey, SilverCode | 05:45 |
| * nuvolari tips hat | 05:46 | |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 05:46 |
| nuvolari | lo bduk | 05:46 |
| kbmonkey | ya, I just wonder how large that area is | 05:46 |
| nuvolari | and superfly | 05:46 |
| kbmonkey | cos 4mm at any given point is a lot! lol | 05:46 |
| Kilos | lol i have no idea how they work it out | 05:46 |
| Kilos | no man it just sokes in here | 05:46 |
| Kilos | soaks | 05:46 |
| Kilos | very dry here even weeds are struggling | 05:47 |
| kbmonkey | eish,, mutt is failing today. need another mail client :( | 05:50 |
| Kilos | have you tried sylpheed | 05:51 |
| Kilos | it worked ok here but i couldnt use my evo backup to save all addresses | 05:52 |
| bduk | Morning everyone | 05:52 |
| kbmonkey | hello bduk | 05:54 |
| kbmonkey | no Kilos don't know sylpheed i will look it up | 05:55 |
| Kilos | in our repos | 05:55 |
| Kilos | someone else here also uses it | 05:55 |
| kbmonkey | I see it in the debian repos. GTK. | 05:56 |
| kbmonkey | cool | 05:56 |
| kbmonkey | another one I tried was cone | 05:56 |
| Kilos | i think Squirm uses another one too | 05:56 |
| Kilos | but none give the backup option like evolution | 05:57 |
| Kilos | so i live with the heavy thing | 05:57 |
| kbmonkey | I have backups full system | 05:57 |
| Kilos | yeah but do your email addies work if you change mail client | 05:58 |
| Kilos | when i change i gotta do it manually from scratch | 05:58 |
| kbmonkey | what do you mean? | 05:59 |
| kbmonkey | do the configuration again? | 05:59 |
| Kilos | like if i use sylpheed it dont see all my mail addies from evolution | 05:59 |
| Kilos | and major work to write all down and add to contacts | 06:00 |
| kbmonkey | oh contacts, lol | 06:01 |
| Kilos | ya them | 06:01 |
| kbmonkey | mmm, dunno I only email a few anyway | 06:01 |
| kbmonkey | you must know hundreds of people then Kilos ;)\ | 06:02 |
| Kilos | spanne contacts | 06:02 |
| Kilos | you gotta cut you finger nails | 06:03 |
| kbmonkey | I gotta have more coffee | 06:03 |
| kbmonkey | I am off now - work :[ | 06:03 |
| Kilos | that \ after enter is my reminder to cut finger nails | 06:03 |
| Kilos | go well and havva good day | 06:03 |
| kbmonkey | my nails are short I cut them last night! | 06:03 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:03 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 06:04 |
| kbmonkey | Its these keyboards with small enter keys - used to the old keyboards with large buttons ;) | 06:04 |
| Kilos | aha | 06:04 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:10 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning :) | 06:17 |
| inetpro | good morning | 06:49 |
| Kilos | good morning inetpro | 06:49 |
| Kilos | what am i doing wrong, the fox dont open the applet thing when i click the button | 07:06 |
| Kilos | http://fermi.la.asu.edu/ccli/applets/yagi/yagi.html | 07:06 |
| Squirm | hello | 07:27 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm tell me what im doing wrong please | 07:27 |
| Squirm | with what? | 07:27 |
| Kilos | http://fermi.la.asu.edu/ccli/applets/yagi/yagi.html | 07:27 |
| Kilos | i click on the button but nothing happens | 07:28 |
| Kilos | even double clicked | 07:28 |
| Squirm | I use chrome | 07:28 |
| Squirm | it popped up asking if I want to run this application with java | 07:28 |
| Squirm | so I clicked yes | 07:28 |
| Squirm | and it seems to work | 07:29 |
| Kilos | ok lemme install chrome | 07:29 |
| Kilos | is chromium good? | 07:30 |
| Kilos | i dont see chrome in repos | 07:31 |
| Squirm | chromium | 07:34 |
| Squirm | I think you'll need to go to the website | 07:35 |
| Squirm | I enjoy it | 07:35 |
| Squirm | syncs all my bookmarks between my 3 pcs and my cellphone | 07:35 |
| Squirm | and history | 07:35 |
| Squirm | open tabs | 07:35 |
| Squirm | etc | 07:35 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 07:35 |
| Kilos | chrome is made from chromium | 07:35 |
| Kilos | so maybe chromium will work | 07:36 |
| Squirm | can be a little power hungry at times though | 07:36 |
| Squirm | chromium is chrome | 07:36 |
| Kilos | its just for that one page | 07:36 |
| Squirm | otherwise, just make sure java is installed correctly | 07:36 |
| Kilos | maybe thats where the prob is | 07:37 |
| Kilos | ah chromium tells me java(TM) is required | 07:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sadly. java is the only reason i still need to keep a windows vm. I don't have the time to wrestle with it when it breaks every 5 days. :-( | 07:55 |
| Kilos | eish 133m download | 07:59 |
| Kilos | ai! | 08:42 |
| Kilos | java(TM) needs your permission to run | 08:42 |
| Kilos | yay now chromium needs permissions for the java thing but the fox works | 08:49 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 08:49 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 08:49 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 08:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 08:54 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 08:54 |
| Kilos | opera also works with java installed | 08:55 |
| charl | good morning ! | 09:15 |
| charl | hi Kilos, psyatw | 09:15 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 09:17 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:17 |
| psyatw | goedemorgen! | 09:17 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 09:17 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 09:17 |
| * Kilos found wonderful antenna design tool | 09:18 | |
| charl | goedemorgen psyatw, hoe gaat het in polen? | 09:23 |
| psyatw | het gaat wel aardig hier, charl | 09:24 |
| psyatw | maar of ik hier echt een toekomst heb, weet ik niet | 09:24 |
| psyatw | inkomens zijn relatief laag en dat kun je je maar voor een bepaalde tijd veroorloven | 09:24 |
| charl | ja dat is helaas wel een probleem met de "armer" landen zeg maar... zijn er wel veel werkmogelijkheden? | 09:25 |
| psyatw | vooral omdat ik mijn studie bij de open universiteit wil vervolgen (ik was delftenaar) en dat kost geld, wat ik hier niet verdien | 09:25 |
| charl | bah dat zuigt | 09:25 |
| psyatw | ja inderdaad | 09:25 |
| charl | ik wou je nog eens een keer vragen... hoe zit het in polen qua uitrol van glasvezel? | 09:28 |
| charl | ftth namelijk | 09:28 |
| Kilos | hi SmilyBorg_h | 09:31 |
| SmilyBorg_h | Hey there Kilos | 09:31 |
| SmilyBorg_h | how are you doing today? | 09:32 |
| === SmilyBorg_h is now known as SmilyBorg | ||
| Kilos | im well and excited ty and you? | 09:32 |
| charl | hi SmilyBorg | 09:32 |
| SmilyBorg | Hi charl | 09:32 |
| SmilyBorg | I'm doing ok. bit chilly in Durban today | 09:33 |
| charl | durban? it ever gets cold in durban? :) | 09:33 |
| SmilyBorg | just spent the lasft few hours at The Factory Cafe drinking good coffee :-) | 09:33 |
| Kilos | hmm... must be rain coming or been raining and wind chill factor helping | 09:33 |
| charl | it's 8 degrees over here right now btw, warm compared to yesterday | 09:33 |
| SmilyBorg | my body treats anything below 23C as cold | 09:34 |
| Kilos | hahaha same as me | 09:34 |
| SmilyBorg | eish | 09:34 |
| SmilyBorg | weather SA says it's 19 in durban today | 09:37 |
| SmilyBorg | but my feet are blocks of ice | 09:37 |
| Kilos | Maaz, forecast durban | 09:38 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Wednesday: Overcast. High: 23° C., Wednesday Night: Overcast. Low: 16° C., Thursday: Rain. High: 21° C., Thursday Night: Rain. Low: 15° C., Friday: Clear. High: 23° C., Friday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 18° C., Saturday: Partly Cloudy. High: 28° C., Saturday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Chance of Rain. High: 23° C., Sunday Night: | 09:38 |
| Maaz | Chance of Rain. Low: 17° C., Monday: Chance of Rain. High: 21° C., Monday Night: Mostly Clo… | 09:38 |
| Kilos | hang on till saterday then youl be good again | 09:38 |
| SmilyBorg | yay :-) | 09:39 |
| Kilos | you'll | 09:39 |
| SmilyBorg | supposed to be going to a Hawaiian Luau themed party on Saturday so warm will be good | 09:39 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:42 |
| Kilos | hi gwood | 09:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | Maaz, forecast velddrif | 12:48 |
| Maaz | ThatGraemeGuy: City not found | 12:48 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | booooooooo! | 12:49 |
| Kilos | where is that ThatGraemeGuy ? | 12:50 |
| Kilos | whats the closest recognised city | 12:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | recognised by who? anyone in cape town knows where it is already :-p | 12:51 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:51 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | its on the west coast, about 150km from cape town i think | 12:51 |
| Kilos | is a suburb of capetown | 12:52 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:52 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | dis sommer 'n klein vissermans dorpie | 12:52 |
| charl | 150km is far | 12:52 |
| inetpro | Velddrif or Velddrift (population 7800 in 2007[2]) is a coastal fishing town in the Bergrivier Local Municipality, Western Cape, South Africa. It is located on the estuary where the Berg River flows into St. Helena Bay. | 12:52 |
| inetpro | it's even on Wikipedia | 12:52 |
| Kilos | not often dorpies are included in reconised by maaz | 12:52 |
| charl | i was about to say, inetpro turned into our new wikipedia :) | 12:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it should use a better source then :P | 12:53 |
| Kilos | oh my hi inetpro thuinder coming hey | 12:53 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://yr.no/ is my favourite | 12:53 |
| charl | a norwegian weather service?! | 12:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: eish! Can you tell me boss | 12:53 |
| charl | whow it is super fast | 12:54 |
| Kilos | yip ill keep an eye on it | 12:54 |
| Kilos | does http://yr.no/ give the weather in veldtdrift | 12:54 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | no man, stop being so lazy! | 12:55 |
| Kilos | i go cast a weather eye out | 12:55 |
| Kilos | lol | 12:55 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | it will take you 5 seconds to find the answer to your question | 12:55 |
| Kilos | im tired man | 12:55 |
| Kilos | oh i looked there but didnt investigate further | 12:56 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | dan moet oom dalk 'n lekker middagslapie vang ;) | 12:56 |
| Kilos | i gotta go check weather and look for square dowel | 12:57 |
| Kilos | coming from the north west inetpro but very widespread already. broken every now and again | 13:00 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 13:01 |
| inetpro | dankie oom | 13:01 |
| Kilos | The search for Veldtdrift south africa returned 0 results | 13:02 |
| Kilos | We did not find any forecasts for places called Veldtdrift south africa on yr.no. | 13:02 |
| Kilos | np | 13:02 |
| Kilos | will need to watch this one inetpro , might be better to carry on and travel after storm | 13:26 |
| Kilos | kalefong getting it now | 13:26 |
| Kilos | unless you go now quick | 13:27 |
| Kilos | looks like its in town already | 13:36 |
| SilverCode | *sigh* jabber.co.za down again :( | 13:39 |
| Kilos | mine is still up SilverCode | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | I can only imagine they are runnign the server off a raspberry pi that is powered off a cheap usb hub | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | Kilos: really? | 13:40 |
| Kilos | oh i use jabber.org | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | ah, that would be why then | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | jabber.co.za is going down on a daily basis | 13:40 |
| Kilos | eish | 13:40 |
| Kilos | i dont use many .co.za | 13:40 |
| SilverCode | I actually tried to register an account on jabber.org this morning in hopes of moving away from .co.za, but it looks like .org have stopped registrations | 13:40 |
| Kilos | even google | 13:41 |
| Kilos | then just use a gmail account | 13:41 |
| SilverCode | the thing I don't like about using GTalk/hangouts, is I can happily have a converstaion through pidgin, and then as soon as I leave the office and my phone goes onto 3G, I get a the entire converstaion flooding my phone | 13:42 |
| Kilos | June 25, 2013: We have temporarily disabled account registration at the jabber.org IM service while we migrate the account database to a new machine. | 13:43 |
| Kilos | they will be open again | 13:43 |
| SilverCode | when though ... 25th June was quite a while ago | 13:44 |
| Kilos | you can create an account here in the meantime they say | 13:44 |
| Kilos | http://xmpp.net/ | 13:44 |
| charl | very interesting Kilos | 13:47 |
| Kilos | what? | 13:48 |
| charl | xmpp.net | 13:48 |
| charl | IM Observatory | 13:48 |
| charl | Testing the security of the Jabber/XMPP network. | 13:48 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 13:49 |
| charl | i run my own server using prosody | 13:49 |
| charl | i used to use swissjabber.ch | 13:49 |
| Kilos | ill get to running my own server again one day | 13:49 |
| charl | it doesn't *always* work but generally i found it to be very stable | 13:49 |
| charl | and besides, it is being run in switzerland, and switzerland has rigurous privacy laws | 13:49 |
| Kilos | jabber.org hasnt crashed with me yet | 13:49 |
| charl | also accessible via ipv6 | 13:50 |
| Kilos | lots of the .co.za stuff aint good | 13:50 |
| Kilos | ipv6 would kill my pc | 13:50 |
| charl | maybe they are doing a half-effort of running it, not really a priority | 13:50 |
| charl | why would it kill your pc? | 13:50 |
| Kilos | nad psu"s are expensive | 13:50 |
| Kilos | cant do ipv6 | 13:50 |
| Kilos | s/nad/and | 13:51 |
| charl | psu? power supply unit? | 13:51 |
| Kilos | ya | 13:51 |
| charl | what does power supply have to do with ipv6? | 13:51 |
| Kilos | already usint 2 to run 3 drives | 13:51 |
| Kilos | strain | 13:51 |
| Kilos | hehe | 13:51 |
| charl | ipv6 is networking, has absolutely nothing to do with power use | 13:51 |
| Kilos | like putting a ferrari engine in a uno | 13:52 |
| Kilos | whells cant keep up | 13:52 |
| Kilos | wheels | 13:52 |
| charl | neh ipv6 is not really less or more efficient than ipv4 afaik | 13:52 |
| Kilos | well lemme see | 13:52 |
| charl | on the one side, the address length is longer, but in many ways it is more efficient | 13:52 |
| Kilos | isnt a faster net mean the pc must work faster to keep up? | 13:52 |
| charl | i don't think that would have anything to do with it, i think the biggest bottleneck is still your connection to the isp | 13:53 |
| Kilos | i already have youtube buffering | 13:53 |
| charl | it does have implications for the isp though, for example ipv6 multicasting | 13:53 |
| charl | that is a HUGE advantage for life broadcasts | 13:53 |
| charl | *live | 13:54 |
| charl | fully replace the existing cable/over the air/satellite broadcast infrastructure with ip-based broadcast infrastructure | 13:54 |
| charl | i already watch all my tv through the internet, i don't even have a regular tv, only a 27 inch edge-lit led screen i attach to my laptop | 13:55 |
| charl | but that's in low quality though, not nearly 1080p hd | 13:55 |
| Kilos | maybe better for me with slow net. fast net means fast data usage | 13:55 |
| charl | i don't think ipv6 would radically impact your data use | 13:55 |
| charl | the question is when isps will start rolling it out | 13:56 |
| charl | at work we have had native ipv6 for ages but my cable provider at home is lagging behind | 13:56 |
| Kilos | they all trying to out do each other at the moment here | 13:56 |
| charl | comcast in the usa has actually been one of the front runners | 13:56 |
| charl | my biggest problem is i only have the option of one cable provider, called ziggo, with the only alternative being tele2 which completely sucks | 13:57 |
| charl | so i have to stick to ziggo regardless of what | 13:57 |
| charl | the only alternative is dsl and that is uber-slow, about 30mbps or something | 13:57 |
| Kilos | and mobile expensive? | 13:57 |
| Kilos | wow that is slow | 13:57 |
| Kilos | like edge | 13:57 |
| Kilos | how do you watch tv at that speed | 13:58 |
| charl | youphone.nl is fairly cheap, but it's 3g/4g, which is also comparatively slow and they have a "fair use" policy on their unlimited data offering | 13:58 |
| Kilos | i get 3g up to 500mB/s when downloading | 13:59 |
| charl | what? how the heck do you manage that | 13:59 |
| Kilos | i dunno | 13:59 |
| charl | my ziggo cable connection (eurodocsis) is 150mbps | 13:59 |
| Kilos | told you okes other day got 63m in 2 mins | 14:00 |
| charl | are you sure you don't have mbps and kbps confused? | 14:00 |
| Kilos | nope the pro also checked | 14:00 |
| Kilos | i posted what aptitude told me | 14:00 |
| charl | sorry meeting bbl | 14:00 |
| Kilos | fetched so much in so long | 14:00 |
| Kilos | ai! 500kB/s | 14:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoe lyk dinge nou daar? | 14:21 |
| Kilos | storm dit nie in die dorp nie | 14:22 |
| Kilos | na jou huis is dinner wolke as in die dorp | 14:22 |
| inetpro | Kan nie sien in die kantoor nie | 14:23 |
| inetpro | kantoor kyk na binne | 14:23 |
| Kilos | skoner na jou huis maar van hier lyk dit donker in die dorp | 14:24 |
| inetpro | ty | 14:24 |
| Kilos | yw | 14:24 |
| inetpro | Maaz: tell kilos am slightly wet but at home | 15:20 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode | 15:20 |
| charl | ok back | 15:32 |
| nuvolari | o/ yellaw | 16:43 |
| nuvolari | *yellow | 16:43 |
| Trixar_za | greenings | 16:44 |
| nuvolari | oh hi Trixar_za | 16:47 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 18:45 |
| Kilos | power just came back and here comes next hail storm | 18:45 |
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