[00:00] <Alumin> so the touchpad itself is working, but I need the synaptics driver specifically (to enable this extra scrolling functionality)
[00:07] <adamu> Hello
[00:09] <Rory> adamu: Hello
[00:11] <glitsj16> Alumin: do you have the synaptics driver loaded in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[00:12] <Alumin> I don't have an xorg.conf :)
[00:12] <Alumin> X just auto-detects everything these days
[00:12] <Alumin> do I need to make one?
[00:13] <glitsj16> Alumin: that's true, but you can make a minimal one only for the InputDevice with synaptics yes
[00:14] <Alumin> cool, so I can make one that sets certain things without overriding the rest of the auto-detection?
[00:14] <SASDOE> hi guys a friend uninstalled xserver-xorg-core and is stuck at boot now
[00:14] <glitsj16> Alumin: look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad (the section on SHMConfigà
[00:14] <daftykins> Alumin: correct
[00:14] <SASDOE> grub just hangs apparently. he was trying to remove gui
[00:15] <Beldar> SASDOE, Grub shows?
[00:16] <SASDOE> Beldar: yes but hangs
[00:16] <Ben64> SASDOE: need more details
[00:17] <SASDOE> haven't got more sorry, will come back with more when i do.
[00:17] <Ben64> SASDOE: maybe have your friend come here instead of relaying information
[00:18] <SASDOE> he doesn"t speak any english so i'd just end up translating any how
[00:18] <yeyeman> why is transmission dling at like 20kbs when there are thousands of seeds?
[00:18] <Ben64> yeyeman: thats really not a question for here
[00:19] <Beldar> SASDOE, grub is just a call to the OS to boot, so is it getting past grub, you can remove the quiet splash and see text for errors.
[00:19] <bekks> "grub is a call to the OS"?
[00:19] <Administrador> guys, I need some help with ubuntu 13.10 64 bits version. I used it for a couple of weeks but today after a reboot I can only see a black screen and my mouse after login(guest account is the same but with default wallpaper instead of black)
[00:20] <SASDOE> remove the quiet splash? be going to error output on display four with alt f4?
[00:20] <Administrador> I reinstalled both unity and ubuntu-desktop. tried to use dconf to reset configuration but it gave me anerror
[00:20] <Alumin> glitsj16: now I just get an SHMConfig error along with the other error :)
[00:21] <Alumin> that's good to know, though, about being able to make an xorg.conf fragment
[00:21] <Beldar> bekks, not the exact syntax, yes.
[00:21] <Administrador> SASDOE: is that directed at me?
[00:21] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, are you using unity, gnome, or something else as your desktop environment?
[00:21] <SASDOE> Administrador: nope separate "thread"
[00:21] <Alumin> presumably I could make another Section to set up the trackpad
[00:21] <bekks> Beldar: Grub has nothing to do with the OS. :)
[00:21] <glitsj16> Alumin: heh, let's take a closer look, can you pastebin both your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the errors please?
[00:21] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: unity, but I don't think it is the problem
[00:21] <bekks> Beldar: It loads "something" that starts the OS.
[00:22] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you hit cntl+alt+f1 and drop to commandline?
[00:22] <SASDOE> bekks: i agree my description, and my friends, is large
[00:22] <Beldar> bekks, you get what the effort is here in questions on a grub hang right. ;)
[00:22] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: yes, that's how I reinstalled unity and ubuntu-desktop
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, From there try xinit -- :1
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> when type in unity on the console that pops up
[00:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, then try to switch back to graphics with cntrl+alt+f7
[00:23] <Alumin> glitsj16: http://www.fpaste.org/57364/
[00:23] <glitsj16> Alumin: ok, give me a minute
[00:24] <Alumin> haha I guess it's a bit funny using a Fedora-branded pastebin for #ubuntu
[00:24] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: nothing pops up
[00:25] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it said "fatal server error:"
[00:25] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Okay, how about unity --reset-icons ?
[00:26] <glitsj16> Alumin: whatever works for you is okay :) .. i've pasted a new attempt to replace your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for you to try: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487258/
[00:26] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: "seems" to work, buy nothing on ctrl alt f7 changes
[00:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Hmm
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, perhaps compiz is the problem...
[00:27] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, try compiz --display :0 --replace
[00:27] <Alumin> glitsj16: yeah, that looks more like it
[00:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: either way, let me try purging xorg edgers ppa, which I added AFTER this happened(a few minutes ago, actually)to see if it changed anything
[00:27] <Alumin> I think the instructions from that other page are more for people who have a functional but misbehaving touchpad
[00:27] <glitsj16> Alumin: yes that would explain things .. or it's my ignorance ;)
[00:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: after display an emoticon is showing, what did you type there?
[00:28] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, semicolon 0
[00:28] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, wait, not a semicolon
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, that other thing...
[00:29]  * geekmasterflash fails to remember basic english punctuation
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> Administrador,  :
[00:29] <Alumin> colon
[00:29]  * geekmasterflash feels dumb now
[00:30] <Alumin> it happens to everyone :)
[00:30] <Alumin> actually
[00:30] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it gave 7 lines of line(still running but does give me more logs), nothing changed at ctrl alt f7(tty7?)
[00:30] <Alumin> I've considered starting to call it "full colon" in response to all these people who insist on saying "forward slash" to describe "/"
[00:30] <Administrador> none of the lines display any error
[00:32] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Try dropping to cntl+alt+F6 and typing unity
[00:32] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Then switch back to F7
[00:32] <Beldar> SASDOE, There are many irc channels language orientated having you try to interpret the problem is problematic at best.
[00:33] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: nothing happens
[00:33] <Alumin> glitsj16: that hasn't fixed the problem, but I think I have enough to go on now
[00:34] <glitsj16> Alumin: cool, 'cause that exhausted my knowledge fully
[00:34] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, try sudo service lightdm restart
[00:34] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I think that unity isn't the on causing the problem
[00:34] <Alumin> I have no problem fiddling around with xorg.conf, I was editing XFree86 config files when most of these youngins were knee-high
[00:34] <Alumin> I just assumed that if Xorg saw xorg.conf that it would override its autoconfiguration
[00:34] <glitsj16> hehe, goodluck
[00:34] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Our options are Unity, Compiz or lightdm... at least so far as I have experienced with similar problems
[00:35] <Alumin> glitsj16: the weird part is that the synaptics package doesn't actually contain a file called "synaptics"
[00:35] <Administrador> this isn't the first time I've had problems with x, but it's been a long time since I had a problem, and I never had to actually modify an file
[00:35] <Alumin> it does have "synaptics_drv.so" but I tried "modprobe synaptics_drv" and it said it wasn't found
[00:35] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, X seems to be working fine
[00:35] <Beldar> Administrador, Did you run the ppa-purge on the ppa?
[00:36] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Your mouse cursor is testament to that.
[00:36] <Alumin> *shrug*  I gotta go run an errand but I'll get to the bottom of this soon enough
[00:36] <glitsj16> Alumin: indeed not, i think it's an Xorg configuration case entirely
[00:36] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it gave me some logs (starting , stopping)etc
[00:36] <Administrador> Beldar: not yet
[00:37] <Beldar> Administrador, Not sure that is the answer, however you want to purge correctly is all.
[00:37] <Administrador> Beldar: or better said, I did, but it's "updating packages"
[00:37] <Beldar> Administrador, Do you know what ppa-purge is?
[00:37] <TeamColtra> how do I find a user group and number?
[00:38] <Administrador> Beldar: yes, for removing ppa and removing whatever was installer with it
[00:38] <TeamColtra> Like I want to set a tmpfs so my php-mysql user can write to the directory
[00:38] <Beldar> Administrador, Cool, it would remove all that and comment out the ppa, so it should not be calling it.
[00:39] <Alumin> TeamColtra: you can get a user's groups and their numbers with "id <username">
[00:39] <Beldar> Administrador, Are you sure it's calling that ppa?
[00:39] <Administrador> Beldar: I have to point out, that the problem started before I added the ppa, and that I only used xor edgers to see if it helped me somehow
[00:39] <Beldar> Administrador, sure.
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you pastebin your /var/logs/Xorg.0.log
[00:40] <Administrador> I'm not sure, my internet is pretty slow, it is still at "updating package lists"
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> ?
[00:40] <Beldar> Administrador, Were you using proprietary drivers?
[00:40] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, also /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[00:40] <Administrador> no, default drivers
[00:41] <Alumin> glitsj16: ok I'm out, thanks for pointing me in the right direction :)
[00:41] <glitsj16> Alumin: no problem, hope you get to that bottom
[00:41] <Beldar> Administrador, Cool, sorry for interrupting.
[00:41] <Administrador> tried to use vim, but it seems it doesn't come installed by default
[00:41] <Administrador> any file reading softwarte that ships by default?
[00:42] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[00:42] <TeamColtra> next question can I update fstab without restarting my server?
[00:42] <Alumin> Administrador: vi?
[00:42] <wheatthin> Administrador, try nano
[00:42] <Alumin> yeah that was gonna be my next suggestion
[00:42] <Alumin> make sure you use "nano -w" or you might destroy your config files
[00:43] <davidavado_> Is this the correct place to ask for help?
[00:43] <Alumin> yes
[00:43] <Beldar> davidavado_, For ubuntu.
[00:44] <Alumin> well...yes.  :P
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, cat /var/logs/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[00:44] <davidavado_> lol
[00:44] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: first one is empty
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Oh?
[00:44] <Beldar> davidavado_, Many derivative and linux users come here.
[00:44] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, o_0 there is no xorg log?
[00:45] <Administrador> also, I don't know how to get out of nano
[00:45] <bekks> pastebinit filename
[00:45] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: yes, totally empty
[00:45] <bekks> Administrador: Look at the bottom of your screen, there the main commands of nano.
[00:46] <davidavado_> get out of nano press ctrl+x , then "y" if on putty
[00:46] <Administrador> bekks: I see them, and that it is based on letters, but I can only type in the empty document
[00:46] <Administrador> ok
[00:46] <bekks> Administrador: then press ctrl-x
[00:47] <Administrador> also, I still cant install pastebinit because ppa-purge still isn't done
[00:48] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, in /var/logs can you find any logs that start with Xorg?
[00:49] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: lightdm file has some logs, but doesn't show any error
[00:49] <davidavado_> I have a question, is there a way to reset the group file permissions (my root's group is set to 1003 instead of default 0)? My sudo is really messed up..
[00:49] <bekks> davidavado_: then what happened before?
[00:49] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, At this point I am more concerned about the lack of Xorg logs
[00:50] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: also, how would I look for the files at that folders?
[00:50] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, go to /var/logs and type ls
[00:50] <Administrador> ok
[00:50] <bekks> davidavado_: pastebin the content of "/etc/passwd" please
[00:50] <Administrador> >no such file or folder
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can't cd /var/log
[00:51] <Administrador> bekks: I don't have pastebin installed, and I won't be able to untill ppa is finished
[00:51] <davidavado_> I can't no permission. "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by gid 1003, should be 0 sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin"
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Woops, put an s there that shouldnt have been
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, cd to /var/log
[00:51] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, then type ls
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: "grep root /etc/passwd"
[00:52] <Administrador> now it works
[00:52] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Any Xorg logs there?
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: That should produce one or two lines at most.
[00:52] <davidavado_> Okay got it, sorry. root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[00:52] <bekks> davidavado_: and now please pastebin /etc/sudoers
[00:53] <Administrador> Xorg.o.log    Xorg.0.log.old     Xorg.1.log
[00:53] <bekks> davidavado_: And please pastebin: ls -lha /etc/sudoers
[00:53] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, K, check Xorg.0/log for any (EE) or excessive (WW)
[00:53] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: problem is that the first time the path had the s(logs)
[00:54] <Administrador> there are (==) (**) and (WW)
[00:54] <davidavado_> http://pastebin.com/KvsAWEkF
[00:54] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Pastebin it when you can
[00:55] <ikonia> davidavado_: what happened
[00:55] <Administrador> (WW) ones all talk about the nonexistance of fonts
[00:55] <davidavado_> i tried to give a group full access to "/" and ended up messing my sudo
[00:56] <bekks> davidavado_: "tried to give" - what exactly did you do?
[00:56] <ikonia> davidavado_: you didn't change /'s permissions
[00:56] <ikonia> or do a chown -R /
[00:57] <mbeierl> davidavado_, you might need to reboot in single user (recovery?) mode and change the permissions that way..  Because you cannot sudo chmod it back, you might need to do that
[00:57] <bekks> davidavado_: did you do something like that?
[00:57] <davidavado_> something along those lines
[00:57] <bekks> mbeierl: he cant sudo, so he cant get root privs anymore.
[00:57] <mbeierl> davidavado_, to change back the permissions on /etc/sudoers
[00:57] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: disregard my last message, there is more belows
[00:57] <ikonia> davidavado_: what di dyou actually run
[00:58] <mbeierl> bekks, that's why I said he would have to reboot into the recovery / single user mode.
[00:58] <buntutech> where is the ubuntu equivalent of device manager? (place to update or uninstall and reinstall harware drivers?)
[00:58] <bekks> mbeierl: Even then he needs sudo to get root privs.
[00:58] <ikonia> buntutech: it doens't work like that
[00:58] <ikonia> buntutech: what are you tyring to do
[00:58] <mbeierl> bekks, huh?  Since whne?
[00:58] <wheatthin> buntutech, depends on the hardware. lol
[00:58] <ikonia> he doesn't need sudo in single user mode
[00:58] <buntutech> i was afraid you were going to say that ikonia
[00:58] <wheatthin> some you just unplug
[00:59] <bekks> mbeierl: Since ever. Ubuntu has no valid root pw, so you cant login as root.
[00:59] <geekmasterflash> buntutech, A mix between the command line and hardinfo :P
[00:59] <mbeierl> bekks, single user boot does not drop you to a root shell anymore?
[00:59] <ikonia> mbeierl: it does
[00:59] <quidnunc> How do I list packages available from a particular repository?
[00:59] <buntutech> ikonia, wheatthin geekmasterflash if i want to uninstall a usb port driver and reinstall it...can i do that ?
[00:59] <ikonia> buntutech: why do you want to do that ?
[00:59] <wheatthin> just unplug
[00:59] <bekks> ikonia: it actually does even without a valid pw set?
[00:59] <ikonia> bekks: yup
[01:00] <buntutech> ikonia, because sometimes it fixes a usb port that doesnt work
[01:00] <ikonia> buntutech: how do you know it fixes it, if you don't know how to do it
[01:00] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa      (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modsetting       (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[01:00] <davidavado_> sudo chown -R root:(group) /
[01:00] <wheatthin> buntutech, ahh, you just gotta reload module
[01:00] <mbeierl> ikonia, ok, that is what I thought.  Thanks - I was confused for a second there.
[01:00] <ikonia> davidavado_: ok - so you have more serious problems than your sudoers file
[01:00] <buntutech> ikonia, i DO NOT know it fixes it in ubuntu i do know it sometimes fixes it in windows
[01:00] <bekks> davidavado_: that screwed you system entirely. Sorry for the explicit language.
[01:00] <wheatthin> buntutech, just with modprobe
[01:01] <ikonia> buntutech: you're not using windows - so you need to look at the problem from linux, not windows
[01:01] <davidavado_> dang
[01:01] <buntutech> wheatthin, geekmasterflash do you have an idea that you can explain too me?
[01:01] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: Failed to initiate GLX extension /compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[01:02] <wheatthin> buntutech, modprobe -r <module>     removes it
[01:02] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, That could be part of the problem
[01:02] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: though, I don't have a dedicated gpu, I only have an integrated intel G41
[01:02] <mbeierl> ikonia, isn't there some type of dpk repair that will set the perms back?
[01:02] <wheatthin> modprobe <module> enables it.
[01:02] <ikonia> mbeierl: no
[01:02] <buntutech> wheatthin, i dont actually understand what you just said ...but ok ty
[01:02] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Was that a EE or WW?
[01:02] <davidavado_> by the way, thank you ikonia and bekks for support, peace
[01:02] <wheatthin> buntutech, then go into terminal and type  man modprobe
[01:02] <mbeierl> ikonia, must have imagined that I wanted one ...
[01:03] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I has been years since I had a nvidia in my computer, and twiped and started using this hdd last week
[01:03] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: forgot to add (EE)
[01:03] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, For some reason it seems to think you have an Nvidia card.
[01:04] <ChronicLlama> hi all
[01:04] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: at some point it talks about intel drivers with a list of gpus, it includes my g41
[01:04] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: found another (WW) but it's about my keyboard/mouse bundle
[01:04] <Administrador> ChronicLlama: hello
[01:05] <wheatthin> Administrador, just use pastebin and they can see it all at once
[01:05] <buntutech> wheatthin, the after removing it how do it get it back?
[01:05] <wheatthin> !paste | Administrador
[01:05] <wheatthin> buntutech, with modprobe
[01:06] <buntutech> wheatthin, and is modprobe a software program or something i install?
[01:06] <wheatthin> it's a program, that's already installed. the system depends on it.
[01:06] <Administrador> wheatthin: I don't have it installd and I'm running ppa-purge at the moment
[01:06] <wheatthin> Administrador, you don't have to have it installed
[01:07] <Administrador> wheatthin: thought you meant pastebinit
[01:07] <Runemoro> Hello, does anyone know why find and dd don't follow unix conventions?
[01:07] <wheatthin> Runemoro, and why doesn't it?
[01:08] <Runemoro> weatthin, dd if=... of=... isn't unix syntax
[01:08] <wheatthin> yes it is.
[01:08] <Runemoro> and find uses one dash instead of two
[01:08] <Runemoro> find -name instead of find --name and a single-dash shortcut for it
[01:08] <wheatthin> ahh yeah, it needs absolute paths
[01:09] <zykotick9> Runemoro: not an ubuntu support question...
[01:09] <wheatthin> zykotick9, it is, cause it's the same damn program
[01:09] <wheatthin> same syntax
[01:10] <Runemoro> weatthin, no, in all commands except find you need two dashes
[01:11] <wheatthin> lol not all.
[01:11] <zykotick9> Runemoro: wrong, other "silly" programs use - as well... bad programers
[01:11] <wheatthin> only --syntax= statements
[01:12] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487383/
[01:12] <wheatthin> which have shortcuts to -syn <option>
[01:12] <wheatthin> or whatever
[01:13] <wheatthin> Runemoro, if you have more questions, just look up the manpages, they'll tell you what the documentation is based from.
[01:13] <Runemoro> but for example in ls, ls -la it interprets the -la as two arguments, and -iname isn't interpreted as -i -n -a -m -e
[01:14] <zykotick9> Runemoro: that's a convention, not a rule... it's up to the person that does the programming
[01:15] <cariveri_> hi. I got a black screen with only the mouse left after an application crash. can I get it all back from here (other tty console)?
[01:15] <pac1> launchpad-dev
[01:15] <Runemoro> zykotick9, that was my original question: "Hello, does anyone know why find and dd don't follow unix conventions? "
[01:15] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, You have nvidia's 319 driver installed.
[01:15] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, [    34.068] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  319.60  Wed Sep 25 14:24:11 PDT 2013
[01:15] <wheatthin> cariveri_, you can try to service lightdm restart
[01:16] <pac1> join #launchpad-dev
[01:16] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, You state the card's been removed?
[01:16] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: years ago, it had a defect so it couldn't be used
[01:16] <zykotick9> Runemoro: ask the people that wrote find and dd... again, this isn't an ubuntu support question...
[01:16] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: we are talking about a 9500 gt, it was a t lesat 2 years ago
[01:17] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Well, either bios still thinks it's there or something wonky is going on
[01:17] <Runemoro> Ok, I will
[01:17] <Guest66419> I'm going to switch over to the ubuntu distro from mint. Should I get 12.04 or 13.10 and why?
[01:17] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, can you give me an lspci and pastebin it?
[01:17] <wheatthin> 12.04 has longer support
[01:18] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: where is the log for lspci stored?
[01:18] <Guest66419> thanks wheatthin
[01:18] <wheatthin> Administrador, you have to store it.
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, It's a command
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> can someone help me understand why I can't java applets can't run in my web browser?
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can pipe it to a text file if you like
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> nothing shows up on this page: http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp
[01:18] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, It's probably better to just run the command and send me the results in pastebin
[01:18] <Airia> What browser are you using?
[01:18] <in_deep_thought> despite doing everything here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289745/icedtea-7-plugin-non-functional-in-ubuntu-13-04
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> chrome
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> or firefox, the same result in both browsers
[01:19] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: I knot it's a comman, but I want to make it into a file to use pastebinit with it
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, you can pipe it like so lspci | pastebinit
[01:19] <wheatthin> or pastebinit lspci
[01:19] <wheatthin> either way :)
[01:19] <geekmasterflash> That too
[01:19] <in_deep_thought> is there a standard lists of instructions for getting java to work on ubuntu (it must be a common goal)
[01:20] <wheatthin> in_deep_thought, jre7
[01:20] <Administrador> wheatthin: it says that it can't read lspci
[01:20] <Airia> Give me a sec, I'll give you the directions
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> yeah I installed that
[01:20] <Airia> I gotta dig em up
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> and the icedtea-7-plugin
[01:20] <in_deep_thought> Airia: ok thanks
[01:20] <wheatthin> that's firefox plugin
[01:20] <Beldar> !java | in_deep_thought
[01:21] <Airia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[01:21] <Airia> Follow that. You need to install the JRE and the plugin for the browser
[01:21] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: although your command did work
[01:21] <in_deep_thought> so can I pick between openjdk, the oracle java, and the icedtea plugin?
[01:22] <in_deep_thought> or can I do all  3, or do I have to pick one and only one
[01:22] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6487405/  everything is intel but the ethernet controller
[01:22] <wheatthin> does it say you can?  lol
[01:22] <Airia> It would just be easiest I think to go with the openjdk
[01:22] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get remove nvidia-319 ?
[01:22] <Airia> but yes, you can choose if you like
[01:23] <Airia> And just choose 1, so nothing conflicts
[01:23] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: it says that it isn't installed
[01:23] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get remove nvidia-* ?
[01:24] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Cause I am definitely seeing 319 being loaded in that log
[01:24] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: 2 to install, 20 to remove, there are some 319 thingies
[01:25] <in_deep_thought> Airia: according to those instructions, I need to install both openjdk-7-jre and icedtea-7-plugin
[01:25] <in_deep_thought> if I have done that, what would be the next troubleshooting step when that verify java page still doesn't respond?
[01:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Okay, well I am not sure they are the problem but they are the first graphics drivers being called in the log
[01:26] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: for some reason vlc is also being uninstalled, weird
[01:26] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, and you don't even have the card.
[01:26] <Administrador> yep, already uninstalling
[01:26] <buntutech> is there aa specific email to the folks at ubuntu...an email specifically for issue regarding te ubuntu chat?
[01:27] <Airia> in_deep_thought: it should work. If it doesnt, I would purge the install and try a different.
[01:27] <zeldak> Hi, some devices at /dev don't exist anymore, how could I update it?
[01:27] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: running ppa-purge again as last time it failed (apt-get update couldn't be completed, it said)
[01:27] <bekks> buntutech: that may depend on your specific issue - what is it?
[01:27] <bekks> zeldak: which devices?
[01:28] <buntutech> i am not saying i have an issue bekks just womndered if this chat is ubuntu's or if it is separate?
[01:28] <bekks> buntutech: this is the official english speaking IRC chat of Ubuntu, yes.
[01:29] <amagee> Just wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good ebook-reading app, preferably one with a good search? I'm using calibre and it's ok.. just wondering if there's something better.
[01:29] <buntutech> are the people who make ubuntu in charge of this channel bekks?
[01:29] <bekks> buntutech: yes
[01:29] <buntutech> ok ty bekks
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> Airia: I have purged and reinstalled everything twice now and still no response from the verify java page.
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> any other suggestions?
[01:36] <in_deep_thought> is there an error output somewhere I can read?
[01:39] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: just so you knoe, I'm still here, it's just that ppa-purge is still "updating package list"
[01:41] <Airia> in_deep_thought: Ive never actually used the java page to verify its been installed. Are you trying to run on app online? Id try to see if that works first
[01:42] <in_deep_thought> yeah I am trying to run the chess applet on chess.com play vs computer and the page just freezes and become nonresponsive
[01:42] <MrKeuner> hello, I have a macbook here and a usb prepared with 13.10 64bit, on a 64bit lenovo running 12.04
[01:42] <MrKeuner> How do I boot macbook from this usb?
[01:42] <MrKeuner> some weird key comaibnation i suppose
[01:43] <Airia> Have you tried installing the JRE through the software center?
[01:43] <MrKeuner> no
[01:43] <in_deep_thought> well now I can run java applets through a different site
[01:44] <in_deep_thought> so maybe its the chess.com one
[01:44] <Airia> possibly.
[01:44] <in_deep_thought> but then I can run that on any windows computer I try it on
[01:44] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: ahhhh, failed again. well will reboot and try again
[01:44] <Airia> If other Java sites are working..Id say so
[01:45] <Airia> MrKeuner: what kind of Macbook?
[01:46] <Airia> Press C during startup 	Start up from a bootable CD, DVD, or USB thumb drive (such as OS X install media)
[01:47] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: against what I expected, it's now halffixed. programs load, the only thing missing is unity
[01:48] <DarkGhost`> Hello everyone, so... I've been having major problems with life the past day.. I tried live booting ubuntu to my usb drive and somehow I messed up my boot record for windows 8... now windows 8 doesn't load and I've tried everything but can't seem to get it work. any ideas?
[01:48] <MrKeuner> Airia, I don't know the hardware version, how can I know? there is no OS installed on it
[01:49] <MrKeuner> c does not seem to work, I still see a folder with a question mark on it
[01:49] <MrKeuner> the serial number shows as a vintage macbook
[01:50] <MrKeuner> but no more details
[01:50] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: so you're trying to fix Win8 to start with?
[01:50] <Administrador> geekmasterflash: all right, all done. used dconf to default everything and then setsid unity. thanks for all the help :)
[01:51] <DarkGhost`> daftykins yes
[01:52] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: technically you can't really get Windows support in here, ##windows instead for that
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: when you say vintage? from what year roughly?
[01:52] <abc_harold> DarkGhost': check here http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-fix-windows-8-mbr-master-boot-record/
[01:52] <Airia> MrKeuner: Im not super familiar with Mac. Older machines may not support booting from a USB device, you may need to burn a bootable disk
[01:53] <MrKeuner> cdrom does not work
[01:53] <MrKeuner> hitsujiTMO, 2004 possibly
[01:53] <flandrs> i have a patch to edit a file in package/debian/file_that_needs editing, so i do a dquilt import patch, and it applies cleanly, but some reason the code remains patched so when i do a dpkg-buildpackage, it tries to re-apply the patch even though the code is already patched
[01:53] <flandrs> this is very strange, cna someone give me a clue
[01:53] <flandrs> same thing happens if i manually add the patch to the series file and drop it in the patches directory, with the original code unmodified
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: then its a powerpc architecture and you need to use a powerpc ISO
[01:55] <DarkGhost`> abc_harold I triedthis :(*
[01:55] <MrKeuner> oh no it is x86 I know that much
[01:55] <MrKeuner> the year might be 2005
[01:55] <MrKeuner> not sure, but early times
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> 2006+ for x86
[01:55] <MrKeuner> hmm
[01:55] <MrKeuner> may be 2006 I am really sorry
[01:55] <MrKeuner> must be x86 I am pretty sure
[01:56] <fmmsilva_> hey
[01:56] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: do you know what processor it has?
[01:56] <MrKeuner> no
[01:56] <MrKeuner> core duo or core2duo
[01:56] <abc_harold> DarkGhost`: Do you get any windows error, or doesn't it even load the bootloader?
[01:57] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Glad to hear that
[01:57] <fmmsilva_> hey guys.. look: http://www.kilibro.com/books/9780470287064-linux-bible
[01:57] <geekmasterflash> Administrador, Odd that it was the nvidia driver
[01:57] <daftykins> abc_harold: we do not give Windows support in here, you are welcome to take the discussion to ##windows but not here.
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> MrKeuner: that sounds about right at least
[01:58] <MrKeuner> do not blame me :) I do not own this shit. Just trying to -reuse this junk for some useful purpose
[01:59] <abc_harold> daftykins: Sorry! DarkGhost`: Goto ##windows, I'll try and help you there :)
[01:59] <geekmasterflash> !language | MrKeuner
[02:08] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: ping
[02:13] <chrs_> hi i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want to use a non-stock kernel form a ppa
[02:13] <chrs_> for "phc" support
[02:13] <chrs_> is that safe to do with apt?
[02:13] <DarkGhost`> i can still liveboot ubuntu is ther anything I can do to try and save my windows mbr?
[02:14] <Pyro_Killer> hello chaps, I have sort of an off topic question, but this channel has always been here when I've been stuck with techy stuff, can i ask about an sql statement?
[02:14] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost: if you are runnning windows 7 you can do a wubi installment
[02:14] <chrs_> will it automatically update all my modules?
[02:15] <zykotick9> DarkGhost`: beware of wubi...
[02:16] <Pyro_Killer> wubi is nice, and easily revertable
[02:16] <DarkGhost`> i can still liveboot ubuntu is ther anything I can do to try and save my windows mbr?
[02:17] <Pyro_Killer> use Hiren's boot cd?
[02:17] <DarkGhost`> ?
[02:17] <wheatthin> DarkGhost`, you can use a windows installation cd and run fixmbr
[02:17] <Pyro_Killer> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[02:18] <MrKeuner> does startupdisk creator support gpt? I am trying to create a usb disk that could boot a macbook
[02:23] <Ari-Yang> [21:08:55] <vanishing> Ari-Yang: ping ----> yes?
[02:25] <wheatthin> pong?
[02:26] <DarkGhost`> Pyro_Killer I did lilo and it doesn't work
[02:27] <hanasaki> where to get the docs on libc function time(   ?
[02:28] <chrs_> i installed a new kernel image and ran update-grub but i don't see the new image as an option in the grub menu when i boot
[02:28] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost`: i feel you hvaen't given enough details, what EXACTLY are you trying to achieve, do you have more then one OS, which windows are you runing?
[02:32] <DarkGhost`> Pyro_Killer I'm trying to get my windows 8 working again, I fucked up something on the mbr and it says missing /efi/boot
[02:33] <Si7> DarkGhost' Easiest solution would be to a windows recovery disk and run repair, it might erase grub
[02:33] <Pyro_Killer> DarkGhost`: Do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader#Via_the_Boot-Repair_graphical_tool
[02:33] <glitsj16> chrs_: depending on how you configured grub it could be hidden under the collapsed 'advanced options' submenu .. good place to start would be checking your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see if it is there i suppose
[02:33] <Pyro_Killer> exatctley how the picture says, see what happens
[02:36] <daftykins> DarkGhost`: i told you earlier that this is the channel for UBUNTU support, go to ##windows
[02:36] <DarkGhost`> windows does'nt know whats going on
[02:36] <daftykins> and you guys - stop enabling him :P you can go there and help but you're in an Ubuntu support channel right now
[02:36] <daftykins> i care not what they're up to
[02:37] <Scip> hey, am I in the right place for asking questions about installing ubuntu on an external HDD?
[02:37] <Scip> it's a WD passport ultra if it matters
[02:38] <geekmasterflash> Scip, What help do you need?
[02:38] <Scip> I have the .iso, I'm just not sure where to go from there
[02:38] <Scip> like when to partition and stuff
[02:38] <xangua> chrs_: what did you exactly install¿
[02:39] <Scip> I'd like to still use the external HDD for backup storage if possible
[02:39] <kangerma_> hey
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Well, I imagine it will present you with the option when you go to install. It will ask you if you want to install Ubuntu/install along side (other os here) or do a manual partition
[02:39] <kangerma_> can i install ubuntu on a macbook
[02:39] <kangerma_> pro
[02:39] <geekmasterflash> Scip, If you want to install it on the external HDD you'd want to the manual option
[02:40] <Scip> geekmasterflash: could I just mount the .iso on Windows and install it to the external HDD?
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Make sure you select the external HDD as the installation location for grub and partition the external HDD for / and /swap if you need it
[02:40] <geekmasterflash> Scip, It's probably better to burn the ISO to a disc or usb
[02:40] <hanasaki> which linux .o lib has the iptables functions?
[02:40] <ianorlindesktop> yes
[02:41] <Scip> ah
[02:41] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Using it as is can require some wonkiness
[02:41] <Scip> does this look good for the USB option? http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj200124.aspx
[02:41] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Are you in Windows?
[02:42] <Scip> Yeah
[02:42] <geekmasterflash> Scip, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[02:42] <Scip> thanks!
[02:42] <chrs_> xangua: a linux 3.2.0 kernel with phc support
[02:43] <chrs_> i see the kernel image in /boot/grub/grub.cfg but i don't see it when i reboot
[02:45] <darkclown> .105.172.94 31337 clown1141
[02:47] <Scip> geekmasterflash: are there suggested guidelines for how much to partition and the like?
[02:48] <Scip> it's a 1tb HDD, I'm not sure what I really need
[02:48] <Scip> just basic educational coding/dev work
[02:48] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Well
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Scip, How much swap space if any, is determined by how much memory you have and if you want to be able to hibernate to disk
[02:49] <geekmasterflash> Scip, which is something people on laptops probably need, while desktops, not so much
[02:49] <tking0036> I have a problem, I have mounted a samba share with fstab, but if I do touch test, it says permission denied, but it creates the file anyways
[02:49] <Scip> I'm on a laptop, 4gb ram/intel i7
[02:50] <Scip> And let's say yes to the hibernate option?
[02:50] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Then you probably want to partition 4gb of swap
[02:50] <Scip> Okay, thanks
[02:50] <Scip> Are there other partitions I should learn about?
[02:50] <geekmasterflash> Scip,  If you are putting all of it on one disk, I generally recommend just formatting the rest /
[02:50] <jbgecko13_> #magic-league
[02:51] <Scip> Okay
[02:51] <Scip> If I'd like to use, say 500GB for just backups
[02:51] <Scip> should I make that a separate partition too?
[02:51] <chrs_> xangua: nvermind i saw the problem
[02:51] <chrs_> there was a "previous linux" submenu in grub
[02:51] <chrs_> i feel stoopid
[02:51] <tking0036> Samba act's like I can't write to the directory, even though I can
[02:52] <chrs_> i "upgraded" from 3.8 to 3.2
[02:52] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: where those 500GB will be? on separate media, disk, mount?
[02:52] <Crell> Hi folks. I have just borked a server and need suggestions on how to fix it. :-)  (Home server.)
[02:52] <Scip> soy: not sure D: I just have a 1 TB external HDD
[02:52] <Scip> and want to use half for storage
[02:52] <Scip> half for ubuntu
[02:52] <Scip> what are the differences?
[02:53] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, so an external disk
[02:53] <geekmasterflash> Scip, Then format 500 GBs as /, and you can leave the rest unformatted or format it as something like /backup
[02:53] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: I asked because sometimes ppl want to store the backups inside the same media they are backing up
[02:53] <Crell> Recently, I had run a normal aptitude update/upgrade.  That inclued a new kernel image.  However, for unknown reasons my /tmp was full.  According to df, it was only 1 MB(!). Not trusting that it was safe to manually empty, I tried restarting.  Now I get a kernel panic, probably due to a borked kernel update.  Suggestions on how to revive it?
[02:53] <Scip> Oh, I see
[02:54] <Scip> As in a backup of ubuntu stuff on the same external HDD?
[02:54] <Crell> I believe it was running Ubuntu Server 13.04.  I've been meaning to upgrade it to 13.10 but haven't yet.
[02:54] <Scip> I guess I don't need that for now
[02:54] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: so this disk is an additional disk or it is where your live OS lives?
[02:54] <Scip> soy: I currently run win7 on a laptop's 128gb ssd
[02:55] <Scip> I have an external 1tb HDD where I just want to install and run ubuntu
[02:55] <crocket> how does ubuntu manage DNS servers fetched from DHCP server on the local machine?
[02:55] <Scip> since I didn't have much space on the ssd
[02:55] <crocket> I want to know where they are saved on the file system.
[02:55] <crocket> Or how I can check them via a command.
[02:55] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, so the external is just for backups, how are you planning to perform the backups? any specific tool?
[02:55] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, The external is not just for backups
[02:55] <Scip> soy: the external is for backups + running ubuntu, ideally
[02:56] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, he is saying that is where is gonna install ubuntu and boot from
[02:56] <Scip> I was thinking of just using windows backup or something, I just need to backup stuff on win7
[02:56] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: ok, I missed that part, just getting the facts straight... ;)
[02:56] <Scip> np :)
[02:56] <ianorlindesktop> ah you will want to install like normal and then select the external on it as the drive you want
[02:58] <Scip> geekmasterflash & soy: okay, so I burned the ubuntu .iso onto a flash drive
[02:58] <Scip> I'll boot into it, install ubuntu on the 1tb external HDD
[02:58] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: I agree with geekmasterflash on the 2 partition (first linux, seccond backups) but th eonly question left is that if you want both OSs to be able to backup there... you need to choose the right FS
[02:58] <Scip> and partition at that time?
[02:58] <Scip> ahh
[02:58] <Foxhoundz> Is there any way to run optirun on gnome?
[02:58] <Scip> soy: I guess I don't have to
[02:59] <Foxhoundz> so that I can use my discrete graphics to accelerate the window manager?
[02:59] <geekmasterflash> Scip, True, I recommend that /backup be formatted ntfs, as windows plays nicest with that.
[02:59] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: from windows partition the drive in two
[02:59] <Scip> okay
[02:59] <Scip> So /backup is ntfs
[02:59] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and if he wants to do linux backups? he will ran into permission issues if he does file copies....
[03:00] <Scip> and / or /swap are whatever is default?
[03:00] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, NTFS-3G is included in the distro, is it not?
[03:01] <soy_el_pulpo> Scip: let's get first ubuntu installed on the first partitions
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Also, hasnt linux been able to use ntfs since 2.2?
[03:01] <Scip> okay, sounds good. thanks guys!
[03:01] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: yes, you an access and r/w but if your backup system does file copies, permissions will be "lost in translation"
[03:01] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Fair enough.
[03:02] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and restoring files from such partition will brin nothing and be defaulted to the directory that contains them
[03:02] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: but, if the backup tool stores like TAR files, permission will be preserved inside the container
[03:03] <crocket> I finally understood how resolvconf works with NetworkManager.
[03:03] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: sometime we overlook those details, I learned the hard way that one! lol
[03:04] <DarkGhost`> how do I mount a dev/sda?
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Yeah, I am actually in the process of reformatting my backup disk right now
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Since I dont want that problem :D
[03:04] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, What would you recommend instead, ufs?
[03:04] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: that's why at the office we have two backup systems, one for Windows servers and other for my linux boxes
[03:05] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: ext4 I use
[03:05] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Even for a mixed OS backup?
[03:05] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: I go simple, nowadays there are so many different standards to choose from
[03:06] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: we do not mix, windows backup server does only the win boxes, linux backup server does just the linux boxes.
[03:06] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: we use backuppc for the linux boxes, very simple and nice
[03:06] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Well, I only have the one machine
[03:07] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, With a dedicated network backup
[03:07] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, But its a dual boot machine
[03:07] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: if you are planning to do rsyncs keep it simple, ext4 disk will work on any recovery station
[03:07] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: what tool you use for you backups?
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: you got me on that one, if you are doing mixed backups, I have no idea... but from linux you can backup your files form the windows partition...
[03:08] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, It's little FreeNAS server
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: nice ;)
[03:08] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: I like FreeNAS
[03:09] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: any idea where you want to mount it? /mnt  ?
[03:09] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/
[03:09] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I guess I will just partition it in half, and with ntfs for windows and another with ext4
[03:10] <soy_el_pulpo> DarkGhost`: assuming that sda1 is the first partition of your disk
[03:10] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: how you have it now?
[03:11] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, A small partition for the FreeNAS to boot from in ZFS and the rest NTFS
[03:11] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: and if it works, why you want to change it?
[03:12] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: a nice thing of FreeNAS is that you can even boot from an USB and have all the disk for data
[03:12] <linuxlite1969> anyone here knows about pyftpdlib?
[03:12] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I have yet to have catostrophic error where I might need to use it to do a restore, but you said I might have borked permissions?
[03:12] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I'd hate to find that out the first time I do a restore.
[03:13] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: have you cheked them doing a restore? that is the only way to test
[03:13] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: can you restore to a different location? not over your real data
[03:13] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, I've got a laptop I don't care about.
[03:13] <geekmasterflash> soy_el_pulpo, Let me find out.
[03:14] <soy_el_pulpo> geekmasterflash: try that first, if it works, pop a beer and celebrate
[03:35] <Pyro_Killer> Why has not a single guide i have found to make an ubuntu usb stick used LiLi, is there a good reason for this?
[03:36] <Pyro_Killer> It's beautiful, open source and up to date...
[03:36] <Pyro_Killer> this is on windows obviously
[03:36] <Ben64> not really a question for #ubuntu
[03:37] <Pyro_Killer> well, the guide posted earlier features a piece of information from ubuntu
[03:37] <Pyro_Killer> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[03:38] <Ben64> ok? still not on topic here. this is for ubuntu technical support
[03:38] <Pyro_Killer> fair enough...
[03:44] <Runemoro> I have a question, does rm -rf go into mounted folders too?
[03:53] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Yep.
[03:53] <Runemoro> thank you
[03:54] <Runemoro> Is there any flag to make it unmount the folder instead of deleting it?
[03:58] <rypervenche> Runemoro: You would want to use the find command with -delete
[03:58] <rypervenche> Runemoro: -xdev  Don't descend directories on other filesystems.
[03:59] <Runemoro> rypervenche, thank you :)
[03:59] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Do you know how to use find that way?
[03:59] <Runemoro> rypervenche, yes
[03:59] <rypervenche> Runemoro: Cool. Enjoy :)
[04:00] <diego> 1
[04:01] <Guest11702> 1
[04:11] <rostam> HI I have installed ubuntu 12.04 update 3. when system  boots , I can see the Ethernet MTU size is set to 574 bytes (ifconfig), Is this value set by defaults? thx
[04:16] <Ceninant> Can I format a microSD card to fat (like it's 16gb, only format part of it to fat and leave the rest unformatted)?
[04:18] <DuncanNZ> Ceninant: you would have to partition it then, use gparted
[04:18] <DuncanNZ> sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:19] <chesterlin> hwois ike
[04:24] <Aethrs_> My microphone is feeding sounds into my headset speakers.  This is of course normal so i can hear my own voice and such but in this case it's highly undesirable.  how do i go about turning this off?  I'm using ALSA.  It's not any specific application, happens with no sound applications running.
[04:24] <dyce> is it possible to have a python script (or anything) to force bind to an ipv6 address?
[04:26] <Aethrs> dyce- A python script you're writing ?
[04:29] <Honeyclaw> hi everyone
[04:29] <Guest11702> hi
[04:30] <babinlonston> I Have Installed Ubuntu 12.04 in LVM and if i need to Create a New Virtual machine , How can i take snapshot and what are the steps there to take a snapshot , How can i create a New VM from snapshot
[04:32] <ejv> im sure the process has been well documented online babinlonston; have you tried googling something complex like that?
[04:32] <Aethrs> babinlonston- How is the machine stored?  a LVM volume?
[04:32] <ejv> i think he/she might mean "VM"
[04:32] <babinlonston> ejv: yes i have done , But i don't got a Solution , so what came here :)
[04:33] <Aethrs> Create a LVM snapshot: lvcreate -L10G -s -ntmp_fserver_backup /dev/brace/fserver_root
[04:34] <Aethrs> That'll create a 10G(max) snapshot named "tmp_fserver_backup" from the LVM volume /dev/brace/fserver_root
[04:34] <Aethrs> From there you can make a new logical volume, and dd it in there.
[04:34] <Aethrs> Then make a new KVM machine, and point it at that volume.  You'll want to change the IP address before you bring it on the net live, otherwise it'll collide.. It is a _exact_ duplicate.
[04:36] <MrHacks> So we meet again. The KFHD7 still doesn't connect.  So here's a list of grievances that I hope someone can help me with so I'm not banging my head against the wall in my room for Thanksgiving. http://pastebin.com/xpdF4WcL
[04:36] <nafg_> Can someone help me troubleshoot a udev rules script that's not being run?
[04:38] <vocx> What do you recommend to completely blank a hard drive? I think I can use a fancy tool, or just "dd" somehow. I want to erase a Windows hard drive completely.
[04:38] <ejv> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<windows-partition> bs=4096K
[04:39] <babinlonston> Aethrs: yes its LVM
[04:39] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Taking a break, read above for instructions on how to duplicate a machine.
[04:40] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Best if it's off when you take the snapshot, and make sure to remove the snap after.
[04:40] <vocx> ejv, thanks man.
[04:41] <ejv> vocx: use wisely, one slip up, you could wipe out something important; also `man dd`
[04:41] <babinlonston> Aethrs: let me try your Advice and ill be back :)
[04:41] <Aethrs> babinlonston- Remember the new machine will have the old machine's IP address(!)
[04:41] <ejv> vocx: bs=4096 (no "K") sorry
[04:42] <Aethrs> afk :)
[04:42] <vocx> ejv, for this specific task, I want to destroy something important.
[04:42] <babinlonston> Aethrs: yes i need to change the ip , ill
[04:44] <isosceles> currently the abiword website offers 2.8.6 as most stable. ubuntu software center offers 3.0.0.
[04:44] <vocx> ejv, as far as I know, I would be setting all the blocks to zero, therefore the information there is no longer recoverable, is it?
[04:44] <isosceles> is ubuntu SC behind?
[04:44] <isosceles> or is the development version particularly preferable to the ubuntu user?
[04:46] <__raven> keyboard shortcut does not disable the wireless device any more on 13.10 - any ideas?
[04:46] <isosceles> and my question is general... trust the outdated or beta version that ubuntu SC offers, or go with the version advertised at the developer's website?
[04:47] <Beldar> isosceles, Ubuntu SC?
[04:47] <isosceles> software center
[04:48] <Beldar> isosceles, behind what?
[04:48] <isosceles> behind the developer
[04:48] <Beldar> isosceles, What is in the ubuntu repo is what is supported here.
[04:48] <semitones> 'ello. Is there an easy way to ask the computer what kernel options it booted up with (like no1apic?)
[04:50] <willbradley> what's people's preferred server backup strategy?
[04:50] <Beldar> isosceles, Di you have a link to the developer? use nicks here, you can tab complete them.
[04:50] <zykotick9> semitones: "cat /proc/cmdline"
[04:50] <willbradley> tar -> rsync -> rotation script is kinda lame
[04:50] <Beldar> willbradley, Number of ways to backup, preferred is a personal subject.
[04:50] <isosceles> Beldar -- alright, then you would recommend using the version of an application from the ubuntu repo even if it was not what the developer tells you to install?
[04:51] <isosceles> http://www.abisource.com/
[04:51] <Beldar> isosceles, I don't use the software center, and don't generally need the support I give support primarily
[04:52] <Hormel_Chavez> hi, what is good way to show system stats nicely formatted
[04:52] <Hormel_Chavez> also any good temperature monitoring utility?
[04:52] <Beldar> isosceles, You can use what you want you just have to be aware of what is supported here if needed.
[04:53] <isosceles> beldar, gotcha
[04:53] <isosceles> thanks
[04:53] <Beldar> no problem isosceles
[04:53] <MrHacks> http://pastebin.com/xpdF4WcL
[04:54] <isosceles> i am also interested in backup strategies. not a huge fan of the default ubuntu program, but it works.
[04:54] <shanahan> is it possible to make launcher icons smaller than 32px in 12.04?
[04:55] <Beldar> MrHacks, posting a link with swearing is a rude and against channel policy as directly swearing is.
[04:55] <Beldar> !ops | MrHacks see link
[04:57] <Beldar> isosceles, Personally I have all my stuff on externals and clone the OS's
[05:00] <isosceles> yeah, i also back up to external. guess i'm wondering about alternatives to deja dup. i had an issue with a backup failing when the external was full. i was under the impression that the app would delete old to make room for the new.
[05:01] <MrHacks> What the hell is this thing? "Oh no! He used swears! Blow the rape whistle! WHHHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!" Complete over reaction consdering I'm tired and It took me over an hour to address all the half-complete grieveances that haven't been completed.
[05:01] <MrHacks> This is why Mint is taking over Ubuntu
[05:02] <Beldar> !backup
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !language | MrHacks
[05:03] <Flannel> MrHacks: Please be polite.  The people in this channel are volunteers.
[05:03] <isosceles> MrHacks, thanks for the laughs. glad i don't use a kindle though.
[05:03] <botch> ...Could I ask an "open" question concerning an Ubuntu 13.10 / Gnome Panel issue?
[05:03] <xmetal> oops i forgot i was on IRC
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> botch: yes ask away in channel mate
[05:05] <botch> It's an issue with what I think is no longer the Gnome Panel but part of Ubuntu...  using my laptop a few times where I close the laptop and go back on a few minutes later (usually only once or twice)...after that the wifi disconnects
[05:05] <botch> My touch pad shows wifi is still connected though
[05:06] <botch> I spoke with a tech support guy at work today from Missouri who uses Lubuntu and he referred me to the forums but ...wow...I was overwhelmed
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> botch: it might be related to power settings, your wifi also disconnects
[05:07] <botch> That sounds like it could be related for sure...any advice?
[05:07] <willbradley> Beldar: there should be an EnterpriseUserBackup wiki page :P
[05:07] <MrHacks> isosceles: I just want to take back control of a problem that I know doesn't require me to go out and buy stuff I already have.  And secondly, I know I can do this, it's just that something happened with Ubuntu right before the 13.10 upgrade where MTP/FUSE devices don't want to enumerate.
[05:07] <Beldar> willbradley,  EnterpriseUserBackup? NOt sure what you mean.
[05:07] <kongthap> my ubuntu 13.10 is messed up now, i want to backup firefox's bookmark, but i cannot launch firefox what can i do?
[05:07] <chsados> guys i am in desperate help I keep getting this error with GPA http://i.imgur.com/xJmw2oF.png
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> botch: doublecheck your power settings, and check /var/log/syslog for any related issues
[05:07] <willbradley> one of your links was HomeUserBackup which is the opposite of what I need (and the BackupYourSystem link didn't tell me much I didn't already know)
[05:08] <willbradley> tar + rsync it is, i guess...
[05:08] <xmetal> hmm would the (i forgot what it is) Firefox "safe mode" command be the same in Linux?
[05:08] <fishcooker> is there simple way to connect automatically to a wireless network  after the box is up?
[05:08] <xmetal> (i am asking "for" the person with the firefox issue.. .not myself)
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> chsados: whats the name of this package plz?
[05:08] <xmetal> i never had to start FF in "FF Safe mode" in Linux before
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | fishcooker
[05:09] <Beldar> kongthap, bookmarks are in the .mozilla file it is hidden
[05:09] <chsados> lotuspsychje: GPA 0.9.4 is this what you need?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> chsados: i mean the key manager app
[05:09] <xmetal> personally i use FF to back stuff up ahead of time (in case of a problem)
[05:09] <xmetal> oops that made no sense
[05:09] <chsados> seahorse
[05:09] <zykotick9> !info gpa | lotuspsychje
[05:09] <kongthap> xmetal, i cannot open both firefox and chrome, i can open nautilus. is it posible to copy bookmark files ?
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: tnx mate
[05:09] <xmetal> lol ... i meant the FEBE Firefox Addon
[05:10] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i'd recommend, not using it!
[05:10] <willbradley> xmetal: http://linux.die.net/man/1/firefox
[05:10] <kongthap> Beldar, where is the .mozilla located???
[05:10] <willbradley> "man firefox" suggests `firefox -safe-mode`
[05:10] <kongthap> Beldar, in the home directory???
[05:10] <Beldar> kongthap, in the bookmarks backup folder, loo around.
[05:10] <tacheny> I have a quick question I use Ubuntu on a daily basis I have been for about 4 years but I would like to know how to access netflix on Ubuntu I usually use my Playstation because Netflix is not compatible for Linux?
[05:10] <Beldar> look*
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: so the error for chsados could be related to unstable package?
[05:10] <xmetal> your home directly i'd say
[05:11] <kongthap> willbradley, you meant go to the terminal and type 'firefox -safe-mode'???
[05:11] <chsados> would it be wise to unisntall gpa and reinstall?  doesnt GPA come with ubuntu by default?
[05:11] <botch> lotuspsy.... (i haven't figure out this XChat software just yet, just installed it) ... I'm not sure how to access that log file.  Is that in the home folder?
[05:11] <willbradley> xmetal: err, that link doesn't say it unfortunately. but when i type man firefox i get a safe-mode entry
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> chsados: you might wanna search alternatives then like zykotick9 sugested
[05:11] <Beldar> kongthap, .mozilla it is hidden hit ctrl-h to un hide any file preceded with a period is hidden.
[05:11] <willbradley> kongthap: yup
[05:11] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i suggested a while ago that chsados should use the terminal gpg - they disagreed ;)  i didn't even check what the error was this time...
[05:12] <chsados> i dont want terminal :P
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> chsados: its wise to follow advice in chat here mate...
[05:12] <xmetal> to get it working you would need to
[05:12] <chsados> tails has a beautiful gpgApplet gpgApplet
[05:12] <chsados> https://tails.boum.org/doc/encryption_and_privacy/gpgapplet/
[05:13] <kongthap> xmetal, i've looked for bookmark backup or sync solution, FEBE is good right???
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> botch: you can use the logviewer also
[05:14] <isosceles>  what room do stupid bring their questions to?
[05:14] <Beldar> kongthap, firefox has a built in sync
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> !language | isosceles
[05:14] <isosceles> what that's hilarious
[05:15] <kongthap> Beldar, i used to look for the built-in sync, i thought i made for sync between desktop and mobile, i was wrong right???
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-tweak-tool | botch maybe this will help tweak power settings
[05:15] <isosceles> my was a serious question. i have novice (i.e. "stupid") questions
[05:16] <Beldar> kongthap, THe firefox sync is for sync from any firefox to another.
[05:16] <kongthap> Beldar, thanks for that :)
[05:17] <kongthap> ok, thanks for all you guys suggestions, i will reboot into ubuntu and try those :)
[05:19] <botch> I really appreciate the help but I've noticed I'm terribly non-versed in Linux.  I have contributed to the Ubuntu os as well as the Ubuntu phone just because I want the freedom to choose something other than Windows, Blackberry, Android or Apple.  I do think I need a lot more training / studying of how to navigate around Linux and understand what things are in Linux, and more specifically Ubuntu.
[05:19] <botch> You guys are wonderful, thank you for the advice.  I'm going for a drink......
[05:31] <tux_1> will nmap work thru proxychains?
[05:32] <bhavesh> How can I get back my last clipboard data after I do ctrl + c again? Do I lose it forever?
[05:32] <hurdorbsd> I installed ubuntu with encrypted installation and even encrypted my home folder .. it asked me created a passphrase which i enter everytime I login .. But also asked me to save a auto gen pass phrase to future
[05:32] <hurdorbsd> Would some1 explain me the situation?
[05:34] <hurdorbsd> bhavesh bhavesh .. tame nathi pata?
[05:39] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, I don't encrypt, however here is a reference page. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystems
[05:40] <hurdorbsd> When I mount an external HDD I get Error when getting information for file '/media/bud/New Volume/xubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64.iso': Input/output error.
[05:40] <hurdorbsd> It still has data .. what 2 do ??
[05:44] <babinlonston> Aethrs: Created a Snapshot , where will the Created Snapshot stored ?
[05:44] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, If the last four posts you have made are related, you might explain this in more detail to the channel.
[05:44] <babinlonston> Aethrs: and how can i Use it for Creating a New VM ?
[05:45] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, There are multiple ways to mount HD, be specific there, and what type of partitioning on the external HD is helpful.
[05:46] <wheatthin> hurdorbsd, in other words run   sudo parted -l and paste it @ pastebin
[05:47] <_joey> is there software to control smartphones?
[05:47] <Beldar> not hardly in other words but you go, hehe
[05:48] <eg0x> _joey: ask them - www.nsa.gov *scnr*
[05:49] <Beldar> _joey, Control in what way?
[05:51] <_joey> the way they are controlled in ms windows  organisation of phone book, sending sms etc
[05:52] <_joey> maybe wine could be a solution?
[05:53] <Beldar> _joey, never seen a sms sending in windows, but you can mount it most likely or use airdroid if android.
[05:53] <_joey> nokia suite has the feature
[05:55] <Beldar> _joey, This is neither MS or nikia support, so you will somewhat have to be real specific, not everyone here uses any of thise are even a smart phone.
[05:55] <calinba> Hi all
[05:55] <Beldar> those*
[05:55] <calinba> Dexter what up
[05:56] <_joey> I asked a direct question if there is a software on linux to control smart phones
[05:56] <_joey> Beldar:
[05:57] <_joey> if you don't know the answer, then stay quiet
[05:57] <_joey> you contribution about ubuntu being a linux specific chanel is worthless in the context
[05:58] <wheatthin> _joey, then leave, this is an ubuntu support channel only.. go get a life.
[05:59] <_joey> < _joey> is there software to control smartphones?
[05:59] <_joey> on ubuntu
[05:59] <wheatthin> that's not support for ubuntu, that's support for smartphones
[05:59] <wheatthin> k thanks.
[06:00] <_joey> ubuntu has a large repository which people discuss here including GNU packages
[06:00] <wheatthin> and, you weren't being specific, and instead you go off about staying quiet. lol
[06:01] <wheatthin> What do you need to control on the phone? lol
[06:01] <wheatthin> that would be something more specific.
[06:03] <mastershake> hey, i just put a fresh xubuntu 13.10 install on my netbook but the sound icon is broke and I don't know how to fix it, any ideas?
[06:13] <Beldar> mastershake, I see this issue on the #ubuntustudio channel and at other times seems to be a problem for more than just you.
[06:14] <mastershake> i see. has there been a fix yet?
[06:15] <Beldar> mastershake, I'm not seeing any bug with a search on that release and sound icon, seems like there might a time for one.
[06:15] <Beldar> bug report that is
[06:18] <mastershake> hmm. whats the command that displays sound levels in terminal again? maybe that'll work
[06:18] <mastershake> mix something, i think?
[06:18] <zykotick9> mastershake: alsamixer
[06:18] <mastershake> that's the one
[06:19] <semitones> hello
[06:19] <mastershake> yeah that works perfectly fine lol
[06:19] <semitones> I tried starting up ubuntu, and got the dots, but now I have a garbled screen. What should I do?
[06:19] <semitones> (on a usb drive)
[06:20] <Beldar> semitones, A proprietary graphic driver?
[06:20] <Beldar> ah on a usb this a ISO? semitones
[06:20] <semitones> Beldar, yes, this is 13.10 live booting. Should I go to a virtual terminal, or restart using a special boot mode?
[06:21] <Beldar> !nomodeset | semitones might be worth a try
[06:21] <Beldar> semitones, This is using a usb on a virtual?
[06:21] <semitones> Beldar, thanks! Is that something that I can disable once I have the correct drivers?
[06:22] <semitones> Beldar, no it's on real hardware. I thought I could press ctrl alt f1 to get the virtual terminal, and fix the graphics that way maybe
[06:22] <babinlonston> Hi all How can i start installing Ubuntu in CLI mode
[06:23] <semitones> babinlonston, download the alternate cd image from the 'more downloads' area of ubuntu.com
[06:23] <zykotick9> babinlonston: use the mini.iso
[06:23] <Beldar> semitones, Ah, try the nomodeset option, it is per boot.
[06:23] <zykotick9> semitones: i thought the alternate image was discontinued...
[06:23] <Beldar> semitones, what release?
[06:23] <semitones> Beldar, ok. One thing I've noticed with that though, if I use nomodeset, will I always have to boot with it?
[06:24] <babinlonston> zykotick9: now way to setup using 12.04 Disc ?
[06:24] <semitones> zykotick9, you're probably right -- I haven't been following too closely
[06:24] <zykotick9> babinlonston: the regular one - NO
[06:24] <babinlonston> okay
[06:25] <Beldar> semitones, nomodeset is a low graphic boot hard to say as future use without specific graphic hardware info. My guess would be no.
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> is there a command i can use to measure how much memory a program eats?
[06:25] <zykotick9> !alternate
[06:25] <semitones> lotuspsychje, do you know about top?
[06:26] <semitones> Beldar, ok, good :)
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> semitones: i was looking for one program only, like firefox start from terminal example
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> then measure its memory usage
[06:26] <semitones> oh like graph it?
[06:26] <Beldar> I think the alternate is still there for 12.04 is all.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> semitones: not nescesary, but one program
[06:27] <semitones> why don't you just search that one program in top?
[06:28] <babinlonston> zykotick9: can i install in CLI mode using Server ISO ?
[06:29] <zykotick9> babinlonston: yes, but i'd still recommend mini
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> semitones: checking man top, ill find maybe to monitor a single pid tnx
[06:30] <babinlonston> zykotick9:  Why i'm Need it , cos i need to setup LVM in CLI so what
[06:30] <semitones> lotuspsychje, good luck! I think there are other similar programs to top as well that might be helpful -- does pgrep sound familiar?
[06:30] <zykotick9> babinlonston: ? then try server
[06:30] <semitones> I forget if that's a real program
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !info pgrep
[06:30] <babinlonston> zykotick9: ok
[06:31] <semitones> definitely got the wrong name :P -- there are some other versions of top that  might be useful, just can't remember them
[06:31] <zykotick9> htop is good!
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> semitones: egrep, fgrep, rgrep maybe?
[06:31] <purplesunshine> I'm running Raring and I'm trying to execute an SH script, but it just opens GEdit. I've run chmod +x, edited the properties, but it still just opens gedit.
[06:32] <purplesunshine> How can I make this SH script ask me what I want it to do?
[06:32] <semitones> lotuspsychje, it's not anything to do with grep -- ptop maybe
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> semitones: ok tnx
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:36] <purplesunshine> Hello? Can anyone assist me with my SH troubles?
[06:37] <hurdorbsd> how to install ttf in ubuntu
[06:41] <aeon-ltd> !fonts
[06:41] <purplesunshine> This is why late-night support doesn't work. Because there's never anyone available.
[06:42] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntu studio
[06:43] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntustudio
[06:46] <Beldar> hurdorbsd, If you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras you get tty, flash and other codecs/
[06:47] <guest-OUYTDq> #ubuntu
[06:48] <Beldar> purplesunshine, In the US it is thanksgiving evening, waiting ten min and complaining is not productive.
[06:49] <Neozonz> any logrotate guru out there? need some help...
[06:49] <semitones> Beldar, do you know, once I install the proprietary driver, how do I make it take effect?
[06:49] <uzer23> hey does anyone know why debconf-get-selections | grep "phpmyadmin" returns nothing? I thought it would show me the variables for phpmyadmin questions
[06:49] <purplesunshine> Beldar, I am in the US and it's almost 1AM CST
[06:50] <uzer23> 12.04 lts
[06:50] <uzer23> btw
[06:51] <semitones> !graphics
[06:51] <semitones> !gfx
[06:51] <semitones> !nvidia
[06:53] <GrendelT> which runs first udev or /etc/init scripts?
[06:54] <GrendelT> init?
[06:55] <wheatthin> Umm udev is populated first.
[06:56] <guest-OUYTDq> in u studio v13.10.  don't see 'restricted drivers' or 'nVidia Xserver settings' menu. if, it downloaded geforce 610 1 GB card driver, where might it be?
[06:56] <A1Recon> Is there a way to know if Geany compiles the C code in C99 or some other mode?
[06:56] <motheus> hello
[06:56] <GrendelT> wheatthin: so if i have a daemon that expects a udev-named device, it's okay to put that in init?
[06:56] <wheatthin> guest, please use the repo, sudo apt-get nvidia-current
[06:57] <GrendelT> wheatthin: i see a udev.conf in /etc/init...
[06:57] <motheus> hey ppl, there is any mixer for ubuntu? i mean, to mix frequencies, not app volume
[06:57] <guest-OUYTDq> ok thank you. i'll check Synaptic to see if nvidia-current is installed.
[06:57] <wheatthin> right, it's the first to load, then the rest of the init
[06:57] <GrendelT> motheus: where are the freq coming from?
[06:58] <wheatthin> no, if there's a device, you need to add it to modprobe.d
[06:58] <motheus> audo frequencies, the system
[06:58] <motheus> to customize bass, treble
[06:58] <motheus> etc
[06:58] <allstarsnorks2> HI guys, how do I install themes on Ubuntu GNOME 13.10?
[06:58] <semitones> How do you restart X?
[06:59] <GrendelT> oh - look in the software center for alsa tools
[06:59] <wheatthin> motheus, please use one line online... And there are called equalizers or synthisizers
[06:59] <wheatthin> use on one line* lol
[06:59] <semitones> found it sudo restart lightdm
[06:59] <GrendelT> wheatthin : for example, i want to name a USB-to-serial device "radio" instead of ttyUSB0
[06:59] <GrendelT> did that in udev
[06:59] <GrendelT> with a rule
[07:00] <GrendelT> then after it gets the alias, i want a daemon to be launched that utilizes that device
[07:00] <guest-OUYTDq> dang it. can't get 'sudo' logged in as Guest.
[07:00] <wheatthin> why?
[07:00] <chsados> hey guys, remember me with the GPA error?  I found out if I run sudo gpa from command it works!  why is it forcing me to use sudo?
[07:00] <hurdorbsd> Beldar I can't get my ttf working in Abiword
[07:00] <motheus> ok
[07:00] <GrendelT> and since i'll know the alias i gave it, that'll be more specific than trying to guess if i'ts ttyUSB0 ttyUSB1 etc
[07:01] <wheatthin> GrendelT, so why not hardlink it?
[07:01] <motheus> downloading alsa tools tranks GrendellT
[07:01] <GrendelT> because it's not always hooked up
[07:01] <motheus> one more question
[07:01] <wheatthin> Umm that's now how usb works.
[07:01] <GrendelT> and that device and another USB-to-serial convertor flipflop
[07:02] <GrendelT> i could hardlink it, but what would i hardlink to? *any* ttyUSB?
[07:02] <motheus> does proprietary ATI drivers are being installed by default? do i have to do something to install them as i want to play with steam?
[07:02] <GrendelT> steam should work
[07:02] <motheus> i had gentoo and radeon had no 3d accel
[07:03] <wheatthin> motheus, propriety drivers aren't by default.   sudo apt-get install fglrx
[07:03] <wheatthin> motheus, you have to configure gentoo for it. but this isn't the channel.
[07:03] <motheus> i had gentoo, now im trying ubuntu
[07:03] <wheatthin> should have worked just fine either way, but ok.. welcome to ubuntu.
[07:04] <hurdorbsd> You had gentooooo and now you want ubuntu ??
[07:04] <hurdorbsd> What went wrong with gentoo?
[07:04] <GrendelT> well, at any rate hardlinking would NOT be a good solution because the target keeps moving. (it's not the same ttyUSB on each plugin, because... that's how USB works)
[07:04] <wheatthin> hurdorbsd, anything can go wrong with gentoo :P
[07:04] <GrendelT> that's what udev accomplishes... it does name regex and assigns symlinks for you
[07:04] <motheus> because i need to code and dont have the time for my gentoo T_T im buyind a new hard driver for my gentoo anyway
[07:05] <Jordan_U> motheus: Proprietary drivers are not installed by default, you can use the "Additional Drivers" portion of Ubuntu Software Center to install them (which will also properly configure them).
[07:05] <wheatthin> GrendelT, So what makes you think renaming or moving the device when it's populated randomly?
[07:05] <hurdorbsd> Ubuntu is the most popular GNu/Linux
[07:05] <wheatthin> will even work that is*
[07:05] <GrendelT> udev?
[07:05] <wheatthin> yup.
[07:05] <GrendelT> are you familiar with udev ?
[07:06] <motheus> every KDE update was like 1 day compiling with gentoo, lets check ubuntu
[07:06] <GrendelT> like, that's what udev is for
[07:06] <GrendelT> identifying random USB devices and naming them accordingly
[07:06] <GrendelT> that's how your system knows a keyboard from a tty
[07:06] <wheatthin> GrendelT, umm it's basically a device library that is generated from the kernel... it's not just for USB, but ok.. it's for all plug in play devices
[07:07] <GrendelT> yeah --- dynamic device config
[07:07] <hurdorbsd> Guys I install a few local fonts manually .. I did it .. but it is not showing my fonts in AbiWord .. I mean it shows them but won't show preview of the fonts and neither would it show when I type em
[07:07] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: You should be able to write an upstart configuration file that will be triggered when the device becomes available, or simply check for existance of the device in the existing start script for that service.
[07:07] <GrendelT> but udev rules allows you to match based on the USB id
[07:08] <GrendelT> jordan_u well, original question was... at what point in the boot process does udev begin
[07:08] <wheatthin> at boot.. lol
[07:08] <GrendelT> i want to fire off a daemon to use the device after it's received it's new name
[07:09] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: In the initramfs, but that doesn't neccessarily tell you when the device will become available, for example some devices are very slow to initialize and so the machine may be completely booted by the time the device is ready to be used.
[07:09] <GrendelT> hmm
[07:10] <motheus> so... any equalizer using pulseaudio?
[07:10] <Defender__> :3
[07:10] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: Hence why you should have an upstart configuration that is triggered when the device becomes available (under the name you need).
[07:11]  * Defender__ is writing :3
[07:11] <GrendelT> gotcha
[07:11] <GrendelT> i think another idea just dawned on me
[07:11] <GrendelT> udev can run scripts it seems
[07:12] <GrendelT> and that'll be when the device is detected either at boot or device insert
[07:12] <Jordan_U> GrendelT: In fact you could probably add starting the service to the udev rule.
[07:12] <GrendelT> if i can find a way for it to kill that daemon when the device is unplugged... that'd be neat
[07:12] <GrendelT> yeah
[07:12] <GrendelT> that's what i was just reading
[07:13] <GrendelT> good times
[07:21] <semitones> There's a problem with ubiquity
[07:22] <semitones> i click it, and it blinks the icon a bit, but nthing happens
[07:23] <semitones> i try to start it from terminal maybe that will work... hmm
[07:23] <semitones> not doing anything
[07:23] <semitones> wthat's wrong
[07:24] <hurdorbsd> y is linux upto 15% faster in copying files
[07:24] <trelane> I'm having issues with 13.10 and a radeon 4250... apparently it's not being detected
[07:24] <hurdorbsd> ok
[07:25] <hurdorbsd> trelane use fglrx-updates then
[07:25] <GrendelT> that fixed it. using the RUN+=" " in the udev rules
[07:26] <GrendelT> so now it identifies the device, starts the daemon and even cleanly shutsdown on removal
[07:26] <GrendelT> so elegant. i likes.
[07:30] <trelane> hurdorbsd, installing now
[07:31] <hurdorbsd> okay good it would make your system detect it but performance is not as good as on Windows
[07:31] <hurdorbsd> Are you using a Laptop?
[07:31] <trelane> yeah, trying to fix up an old laptop for a friend
[07:31] <semitones> how do you kill a zombie process (ubiquity)
[07:31] <trelane> semitones,  kill -9 ?
[07:32] <trelane> err kill -9 <PID>
[07:32] <semitones> i'll try
[07:32] <trelane> you can get the pid from 'ps aux'
[07:32] <trelane> :)
[07:32] <semitones> it's still there -- I did pgrep to get the PID
[07:33] <trelane> hurdorbsd, installed it still getting the "your system is running in low graphics mode" "how would you like to reconfigure it".  Attempted to use generic, no joy.
[07:33] <trelane> semitones, hit it with a few more -9's, check 'dmesg' and syslog
[07:33] <semitones> hmm k
[07:33] <semitones> what's -15?
[07:33] <trelane> kill -9 should end a task, PERIOD, if it's not you have a larger problem (reboot)
[07:34] <hurdorbsd> ok
[07:34] <buu> kill -9 *does* end a task
[07:34] <buu> Its a zombie now
[07:34] <a4343> I visited this club tonight that I have not seen in several years. They closed it down. it is a dark, empty, dead building.   No more cinnamon,  no more school girl outfits, no more mini dresses.  No someone deemed it to be a threat to their control and subjugation over the people here.  They must have decided we cant have skimpy outfits. Not that is a threat. we cant  have that becuase, it is just I guess not acceptable to them.   Sad
[07:34] <trelane> SIGTERM
[07:34] <trelane> -15 is SIGTERM
[07:34] <buu> semitones: You can't kill a zombie because it's already dead, duh
[07:34] <buu> semitones: That's the whole point
[07:34] <buu> semitones: If you want the process to go away you have to either convince its parent to "reap" it or just kill its parent
[07:35] <semitones> buu, but how do I find it's parent?
[07:36] <buu> *its
[07:36] <buu> I think its in /proc/pid someplace or perhaps htop or similar
[07:36] <semitones> I don't want to restart b/c it took so long to get the drivers correct. You're right, it's its.
[07:36] <a4343> That fact that no one speaks up out of 1654 people means two things - #1 You are a bunch of pussies.  #2 That censorship and subjugation of the masses has finally taken place.  congratualtions pussies. You allowed this to happen.
[07:37] <buu> That was a really, really odd troll.
[07:38] <Levex> buu: $ cat /proc/self/status
[07:38] <Levex> buu: Here PPID is the parent's process id
[07:38] <Levex> buu: Obviously, replace self with your zombie's pid or whatever
[07:39] <buu> Levex: Please address semitones
[07:39] <semitones> thanks
[07:40] <Levex> buu: Ah yes, thank you :D
[07:49] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5MYDf4b6yg
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <Beldar> !spam | tUCKER
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <tUCKER> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqFESxQ4lkI
[07:51] <FloodBot1> tUCKER: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:57] <v_y> is there a live usb image with chrome installed?
[07:57] <trelane> so I ended up completely deleting the fglrx driver, it loads into xorg, or whatever it is no but there's no unity, no panel, and no top bar, the icons and background do appear.  Unity panel service is running
[07:57] <trelane> trying to start unity gets me opengl not loaded
[07:59] <v_y> is there a live usb image with chrome installed?
[08:05] <hungnv> hello guys, when mouting ntfs with ntfs-3g driver using default option, I use application download file from internet and store in mount point of ntfs drive, forr example /mnt/ntfs . ntfs-3g buffer write to large chunk before writing data to disk. How can I prevent this?
[08:06] <Beldar> hungnv, This a stand alone ntfs partition, your loading using ubuntu?
[08:06] <hungnv> Beldar, yes
[08:08] <Beldar> hungnv, Isn't the mount point the partition, not sure I understand.
[08:08] <muxdemux_> I have a faulty graphics card. It's NVidia GeForce GT 430. Is there a utility or something similar in Ubuntu, which will compare the output from the graphics card with the output that should be given, if it was not faulty? The graphics card had one of it's chips soldered in a service center. I get those messy lines on my screen, like the signal picks up noise from somewhere, but that's not the problem, as i've previously mentioned. Any ideas? Thanks in
[08:08] <muxdemux_> advance.
[08:11] <hungnv> Beldar, for example, I have sda disk with sda1 format as ntfs partition, and use ntfs-3g to mount it as mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/ntfs -o rw
[08:11] <hungnv> i write an download application to download data from internet and store data in /mnt/ntfs
[08:13] <Beldar> hungnv, Not sure.
[08:13] <hungnv> ntfs-3g driver buffer data in memory into large chunk, let say about 50Megabytes, and write that buffer to disk at a time, I dont want it as like that, I want if my appkication download speed as 2MB/s, 2MB will be written to disk immediately, no buffer
[08:13] <muxdemux_> I have a faulty graphics card. It's NVidia GeForce GT 430. Is there a utility or something similar in Ubuntu, which will compare the output from the graphics card with the output that should be given, if it was not faulty? The graphics card had one of it's chips soldered in a service center. I get those messy lines on my screen, like the signal picks up noise from somewhere, but that's not the problem, as i've previously mentioned. Any ideas? Thanks in
[08:13] <muxdemux_> advance.
[08:15] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:16] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:16] <dibs> I'm trying to set my mbr to dual boot again after I upgraded windows to 8.1 and lost my ubuntu 13.10 but am not sure which partition is mbr
[08:17] <Beldar> dibs, The mbr is not a partition.
[08:17] <dibs> ah..
[08:18] <kyloth> is there a free valid windows program that emulates an unbuntu terminal. i have been practicing from "THE LINUX COMMAND LINE" and i dont want to fall behind on my practice but i am not allowed to put linux on this computer so i was wondering if there was a windows emulator for a linux termanl ubuntu based
[08:18] <Beldar> dibs, This a gpt W8.1 and ubuntu still there, but your booting straight to windows?
[08:18] <dibs> Beldar: Could you help at all? I have an ubuntu 12.10 which when selected at boot gives me acces to my old boot menu with ubuntu and windows but I don't know how to make it stick without the bootdisk
[08:18] <dibs> Yeah straight to windows
[08:19] <dibs> It's like I'm being sent to hell everyboot
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> kyloth: ask in ##windows please
[08:19] <kyloth> make a live disk or get some burnable cd's atleast one gig and make a bootdisk to install you new os
[08:19] <Beldar> dibs, For me it would help to to the bootscript, you familiar with the bootrepair app?
[08:19] <Beldar> see*
[08:19] <dibs> I have the url
[08:20] <Beldar> dibs, If a fresh read post that.
[08:20] <kyloth> lotus psychje... i came here because windows users are fucking retards and i wanted an ubuntu geek to let me know what windows program best emulates the ubuntu terminal
[08:20] <Beldar> !language | kyloth
[08:21] <kyloth> so no... i wont go to #windows because even though i was looking for a windows program. im looking for linux programming available on windows
[08:21] <Levex> kyloth: Cygwin?
[08:21] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be?
[08:21] <kyloth> is there a free valid windows program that emulates an unbuntu terminal. i have been practicing from "THE LINUX COMMAND LINE" and i dont want to fall behind on my practice but i am not allowed to put linux on this computer so i was wondering if there was a windows emulator for a linux terminal ubuntu based
[08:21] <muxdemux_> Why the up/down volume button on the taskbar won't give me the [0 - 100] graphical slider line?
[08:21] <dibs> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> kyloth, just use a VM
[08:22] <kyloth> levex... cygwin is an emulator for a linux terminal? what is VM?
[08:22] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be?
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> VIRTUAL MACHINE
[08:22] <gr33n7007h> oops left caps on
[08:23] <gr33n7007h> download ubuntu iso and load it up into the VM
[08:23] <kyloth> well i was asking for a hyperlink to a good emulator. like i said its not my comp but i am gonna be working on it so i can install linux but i can install a program that emulates linux.... she doesnt want me partitioning her drive
[08:24] <kyloth> VM sounds like a decent idea i already have the iso
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> kyloth: how about installing ubuntu on your machine, and loose windows once and for good :p
[08:24] <kyloth> i wish i could lotus but as i stated 3 times... its not my machine
[08:25] <kyloth> im jsut staying with my friend for a couple weeks and dont want to fall behind on my CLI practice
[08:25] <Sven_vB> hi! there's this one config file that i'm asked to replace on every upgrade. is there a way to specify that this file, i always want to keep my way? nad maybe instead write the new maintainer's version ro /etc/program.conf.maint so i gave the latest defaults always nearby?
[08:25] <Beldar> dibs, Did you run the repair on the bootrepair?
[08:26] <kyloth> well greentooth sof ar has the best idea so thanks for that
[08:26] <kyloth> i think im just gonna run a VM it sounds like the most calid idea so far
[08:26] <kyloth> Valid*
[08:26] <Sven_vB> (also, please excuse my typing. i overestimated how awake my hands would be.)
[08:29] <muxdemux_> I won't get any sound output from the speakers. What could the problem be? I am using Xubuntu 13.10. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !sound | muxdemux_
[08:32] <dibs> Beldar: Yeah I did but still booted to windows. I got a message about being in eufi mode but if I change that in bios nothing boots
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> dibs: dod you disable secure boot in bios?
[08:35] <dibs> lotuspsychje: yeah it's off
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> dibs: and you cant boot into ubuntu?
[08:35] <lloowen_> Hello all. Just messing aroun with run levels. When I use the command 'runlevel' in the cli. I see N 2 what does the 'N' mean?
[08:35] <Beldar> dibs, I would post that url with your description here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[08:35] <dibs> It's like the cd ubuntu see's the original grub too, I don't even get a chance to boot to the live cd
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> !runlevel | lloowen_
[08:36] <dibs> baardsf: I posted it before http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:36] <dibs> doh
[08:36] <dibs> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6488438/
[08:37] <Beldar> dibs, here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[08:37] <BlackDalek> Help!! my eog (image viewer) is crashing instantly every time it is started, either by opening (any) image file or starting the program from terminal or dash icon. I am using Ubuntu 13.04 GNOME Image Viewer 3.6.2
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> dibs: did you follow the uefi guid to install?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: any errors when you start eog from terminal?
[08:39] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, yes - "g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. Terminated"
[08:39] <lloowen_> lotuspsychje: Didnt understatnd what you meant with !runlevel
[08:39] <Sven_vB> found it, --force-confold and friends
[08:44] <Scip> hey, I just installed ubuntu on an external HDD partition
[08:45] <Scip> I want to be able to use the rest for windows backups, is there a best way to format that?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: sounds like a bug to me
[08:45] <Beldar> Scip, There has to be a ntfs and it has to be the first partition
[08:45] <helmut_> hi
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | Scip
[08:46] <Scip> !info gparted
[08:46] <Scip> it has to be the first?
[08:46] <Scip> I have gparted
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Scip: you can format partitions with gparted in any format you like
[08:47] <Scip> lotus: okay, I think I just did that
[08:47] <Scip> but it's /sdb5
[08:47] <BlackDalek> Does anyone else have eog (image viewer) crashing instantly problem?
[08:47] <Scip> /sdb1 and /sdb2 are swap and ext3 for ubuntu, respectively
[08:48] <Scip> does that mean I need to change something?
[08:48] <Beldar> Scip, By windows backups you mean with it's restore function>
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: maybe try a reinstall of eog? if not work i would bug it
[08:48] <Scip> Doesn't have to be, I just need to back up important ifles
[08:48] <Scip> so even copy/paste is okay
[08:48] <Scip> @Beldar
[08:49] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, ok - I've already purged and re-installed eog. That still failed. In the mean time, what is an alternative I can install as replacement to eog so that I an view my image files again?
[08:50] <BlackDalek> *can
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: shotwell is installed by default
[08:50] <Beldar> Scip, I beleive if there is not permissions involved or specific ntfs needed partitioning you could just store them in the ubuntu with a copy and paste from it. How is ubuntu running in that external?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> BlackDalek, risetto
[08:51] <Scip> Beldar: ubuntu is working
[08:51] <BlackDalek> I mean a lightweight, simple thing, like document viewer or eog... not a full fledged photo organiser/viewer
[08:52] <Scip> What I mean is, say I filled up the ubuntu partition with stuff
[08:52] <Scip> could I still use the other half of the external like a usb flash drive?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !info gpicview | BlackDalek
[08:52] <Scip> Either from windows to that half, or from ubuntu
[08:53] <Beldar> Scip, I believe as far as windows reading that hard drive it would have to be a ntfs and a first partition, but ubuntu can read windows.
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: you might wanna check /var/log/syslog for eog errors aswell to help debug
[08:53] <Scip> Beldar: oh, shoot. does that mean I'd need to reinstall ubuntu?
[08:53] <Scip> and parition so that it's at the end
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: can you eog --version in terminal?
[08:54] <Beldar> Scip, I would check the web or the ##windows channel on that really just to be sure, I know it's that way with usb flash.
[08:54] <Scip> okay, thanks
[08:55] <Beldar> Scip, You can use gparted to copy and paste whole partitions, so depending on what is there and space you could move and reassign partitions.
[08:55] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: seems like we at version 3.8.2 now
[08:56] <Scip> Beldar: ah that helps, I'l look into it. thanks!
[08:57] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, the one which installs from the repository is 3.6.2 for eog
[08:57] <jellow> can I mount a printer using sshfs and use it instead of samba ?
[08:57] <Beldar> Scip, No problem if you move ubuntu just has to be an equal or bigger partition, but you can resize it smaller if needed, the ntfs for this can be in an extended if not needed to boot windows.
[08:57] <lionrouge> hi !
[08:57] <enbergj> please educate me for I am obviously missing something: to set up Java SDK it is not enough to just install some files somewhere, you also need to set up the JAVA_HOME environment variable .. now if you install openjdk-7-jdk, it does not set up this environment variable .. why?
[08:57] <lionrouge> my Ubuntu 13.10 doesn't let me switch keyboard layouts when the screen is blocked
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> !info eog | BlackDalek
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: try update maybe?
[08:59] <lionrouge> enbergj: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[08:59] <BlackDalek> lotuspsychje, Do I have to upgrade to Saucy to install that?
[09:00] <enbergj> lionrouge: that doesn't seem to answer my question .. why doesn't openjdk-7-jdk installation finish installing the JDK, which includes setting up the environment variable?
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: not sure, maybe its possible from 13.04 also
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: i had one bug once on a system with eog, showing pictures with green on 13.04
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> BlackDalek: we will soon have to upgrade anyway
[09:04] <BlackDalek> I'll upgrade when I have time. Just needed a working image viewer now while I am working. gpicview is doing the trick, so I will leave it at that for now. Thanks.
[09:05] <muxdemux_> What should i do, in order to install the NVidia drivers? I've downloaded them as a .run file.
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: Switch to another console (Ctrl-Alt-F2), then stop the x server with "sudo service lightdm stop"
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: then make it executable with "chmod +x filename.run"
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: Then run it "sudo ./filename.run"
[09:06] <blognewb> hey guys since when has the market channel been off?
[09:06] <blognewb> or turned off
[09:06] <cfhowlett> blognewb, market what?
[09:06] <Rory> muxdemux_: However, be aware you can just install it from the repository instead: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:06] <muxdemux_> Rory: And after that, should i start the x server again?
[09:07] <Rory> muxdemux_: No you should reboot after
[09:07] <geirha> enbergj: It doesn't set up JAVA_HOME because it gets installed in the location where java will look if JAVA_HOME is not set
[09:07] <blognewb> cfhowlett, #bitcoin-market
[09:07] <Rory> blognewb: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[09:07] <cfhowlett> blognewb, wrong channel.  This is #ubuntu.  Move on.
[09:07] <blognewb> Rory, sorry i apologize
[09:07] <muxdemux_> Rory:Thanks a lot, i will try to install it with the repository :)
[09:07] <muxdemux_> from*
[09:07] <generalster> hello all, can anyone guide me to a room to discuss the development of a kernel module? I've found some stuff about hp acpi fan control not implemented anywhere
[09:08] <Rory> muxdemux_: Great, it's a lot safer that way because it's easier to uninstall again in future (and keep up-to-date through system updates)
[09:08] <Rory> generalster: Perhaps ##linux ?
[09:08] <enbergj> geirha: well after setting up openjdk-7-jdk, I tried to compile something and it complained that JAVA_HOME is not set .. after I manually fixed the environment it worked
[09:08] <generalster> Rory: Cheers. I'm pretty new to this sort of stuf.
[09:08] <muxdemux_> Rory: Yup, and i still don't feel pro enough to mess with those manual things :)
[09:09] <kongthap> i want to backup firefox's bookmarks, i cannot launch firefox now because my ubuntu is messed up, which files in .mozilla  contains the bookmarks???
[09:10] <enbergj> kongthap: you could consider checking firefox channel/forums/documentation instead of a random linux channel
[09:10] <geirha> enbergj: have you had different versions of java installed? if so, you might need to use  update-java-alternatives  to set the correct symlinks
[09:11] <Rory> kongthap: places.sqlite
[09:11] <enbergj> geirha: not as far as I know, I just installed javajdk-7-jdk, also if there were multiple versions, I assume one of them would've be set as the default without manually having to run update-java-alternatives etc.
[09:11] <enbergj> *openjdk
[09:11] <Beldar> kongthap, go to .mozilla open the firefox folder and use the search with bookmarkbackups
[09:12] <kongthap> beldar, i just found that folder
[09:12] <geirha> enbergj: Ok, well, I haven't had any problems with an unset JAVA_HOME
[09:12] <kongthap> Beldar: if i just copy those .json files, i can use firefox in the new machine to import them back right???
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> enbergj: tried Oracle Java? Webupd8 has a PPA for easy install
[09:13] <Beldar> kongthap, as far as I know yes.
[09:13] <kongthap> Beldar: thanks :)
[09:13] <Beldar> kongthap, save that whole .mozilla file just to be safe.
[09:13] <enbergj> ActionParsnip: no, nor do I want to really
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> enbergj: ok no worries
[09:14] <kongthap> Beldar: thanks for the warning :)
[09:14] <Beldar> kongthap, NOt sure why your firefox is broken, but that .mozilla file can just be put in home replacing another and run, if it's not it that is actually broken.
[09:16] <kongthap> Beldar: actually firefox is not broken, my ubuntu is broken i cannot launch both firefox and chrome, but i still can launch many apps such as x-chat, gedit, etc
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: launch them from terminal, the output may be useful
[09:17] <Beldar> kongthap, Ah just save the .mozilla and before you run firefox on the install paste it to home and you will have the same FF.
[09:18] <Beldar> kongthap, Save the .config file as well it will have the configs of apps.
[09:18] <Beldar> some apps anyway
[09:19] <kongthap> it seems like i got read only on my ubuntu, for cannot create a new folder, i think, that's why i cannot lunch some apps which require writable
[09:19] <Rory> kongthap: Is it possible you have run out of disk space?
[09:19] <kongthap> i've planned to  re-install my ubuntu
[09:19] <Rory> kongthap: Might as well just back up your entire /home/username directory then
[09:20] <generalster> kongtap: look if you've chmodded /
[09:20] <kongthap> Rory: nope, this used to happen before, i ran the fsck, then things have been fine, until i upgrade to 13.10
[09:20] <Rory> kongthap: I always advocate a clean install over an in-place upgrade if possible
[09:21] <kongthap> generalster: i just have one thing left to backup which is the bookmark so i'm lazy to run into fsck because i partition is quite big
[09:21] <kongthap> Rory: yeah, everyone has to buy their own experience :P
[09:22] <cfhowlett> Rory, agreed.
[09:22] <kongthap> i think, i just have to run fsck now, i have no other choices after backup everything i will do clean install for 12.04 LTS :)
[09:24] <kongthap> after upgrading to 13.10 i cannot use shutdown and restart from the panel menu, i always have to type the command in the terminal :P
[09:25] <kongthap> well, thanks all you guys with tons of help :)
[09:41] <olivier_bK> i have installed mysql on my ubuntu
[09:42] <olivier_bK> but when i try to start it i get that
[09:42] <olivier_bK> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[09:42] <olivier_bK> utility, e.g. service mysql start
[09:42] <Rory> olivier_bK: use the command "sudo service mysql start"
[09:42] <olivier_bK> i m in root
[09:42] <Rory> olivier_bK: then just "service mysql start"
[09:43] <olivier_bK> if use service mysql start
[09:43] <olivier_bK> i get nothing
[09:43] <Rory> olivier_bK: What's the output of "service mysql status" ?
[09:43] <olivier_bK> nothing
[09:44] <Rory> olivier_bK: How did you install mysql, and what Ubuntu version are you using?
[09:44] <gambi> I'm trying to setup my Wireless Touchpad on 13.04, which channel is the right one for questions related to "InputClass" settings?
[09:44] <olivier_bK> i 've installed mysql by apt-get install
[09:44] <Rory> gambi: Probably this one if you're on Ubuntu
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> gambi: does it have its own reciever, or is it bluetooth?
[09:44] <olivier_bK> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:44] <Rory> olivier_bK: Can you try "service mysql stop && sleep 2 && service mysql start"
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> olivier_bK: use TAB to complete the service name
[09:45] <gambi> it's bluetooth and already connected but way too sensitive. I'd also like to have 3 finger-click-drag working.
[09:45] <johnm> olivier_bK: if you're after the server, is the package not called "mysql-server"?
[09:45] <Rory> gambi: Can you lower the sensitivity in the Input options ?
[09:46] <Rory> olivier_bK: yes if you just install" mysql" you will only get a client
[09:46] <gambi> @ActionParsnip which driver should I use in the X11 settings?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> gambi: not sure, usually the one loaded by udev is ok, check that out
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> gambi: lsmod   may show you
[09:46] <gambi> great thx
[09:46] <Rory> olivier_bK: apt-get install mysql-server
[09:47] <m00xdem00x> Why won't Chromium always start in full maximized screen? Every time i start it, i have to click the "+" button, so it will maximize. Any ideas?
[09:47] <sanji> hello
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Rory: if you close all Chromiums and run:  chromium-browser -start-maximized     is it ok?
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rory: if it works, run:   gksudo gedit /etc/chromium-browser/default    and add: CHROMIUM_FLAGS="--user-data-dir -start-maximized"
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Rory: source: http://www.canbike.ca/information-technology/2013/03/03/precise-puppy-5-4-3-chromium-browser-run-as-root-and-start-maximized.html
[09:52] <Nanor> Hi, why won't Ubuntu play through my USB headphones?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> Nanor: its not configured right
[09:53] <Nanor> ActionParsnip, Found the problem
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Nanor: ahhh sweet
[09:54] <sandman> has anyone tried Elementary OS?
[09:54] <Nanor> sandman, no, looks interesting though
[09:54] <Nanor> Was thinking of putting it on my dad's laptop if it was any good. Haven't heard any reports though
[09:54] <sandman> currently downloading the iso let's see what it looks like?
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> sandman: its not supported here
[09:55] <sandman> okay ActionParsnip
[09:56] <onenine7> kan er iemand helpen
[09:56] <cfhowlett> !english|onenine7,
[09:57] <onenine7> ok np anyone who can help with 13.10 wifi problem
[09:58] <Beldar> onenine7, Can you name the wifi hardware if internal look at lspci if external lsusb.
[10:02] <motz> hi, on which tablets is it possible to install ubuntu?
[10:03] <sec_> how use 7za? 7za a rom.zip "slimtmp/*" , it include slimtmp folder too, how avoid that?
[10:03] <Rory> motz: You want #ubuntu-touch not here
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !touch|motz,
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> sec_: does unp extract it how you desire?
[10:04] <sec_> ActionParsnip: no, my files are in slimtmp folder
[10:05] <sec_> ActionParsnip: slimtmp/files , i want it is /files
[10:08] <duoi> hi all, how can i wget from an ip address directly without resolving the domain?
[10:11] <Levex> duoi: wget <IP> maybe?
[10:12] <duoi> Levex, do I include the http portion?
[10:12] <Levex> duoi: Yes
[10:12] <duoi> great, thanks
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> sec_: may need to tell the extracter to only extract that folder then
[10:14] <damoo> hello, can someone help me with Tails please? im wanting to connect to a VPN before i connect to TOR.
[10:14] <sec_> ActionParsnip: i can't tell rom extracter
[10:14] <sec_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i will use cd
[10:15] <Rory> damoo: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[10:15] <cfhowlett> damoo, see tor or tails for support.
[10:16] <impradeepy> how can we link math library to standard C library?
[10:16] <impradeepy> am using gcc compiler
[10:19] <impradeepy> hello
[10:19] <impradeepy> ???
[10:29] <Bray90820> Is there a way to make the mouse pointer shoer then what the sitting will allow
[10:29] <cfhowlett> Bray90820, restate in English
[10:30] <Bray90820> the lowest setting for the mouse point is still to fast
[10:30] <Bray90820> how can i make it shower
[10:30] <Bray90820> *slower
[10:32] <Beldar> Bray90820, Have you checked you mouse for a dpi switch?
[10:32] <Bray90820> you mean phisicly on the mouse?
[10:32] <Beldar> Bray90820, Yes.
[10:32] <Bray90820> there is no dpi switch it's a apple magic mouse
[10:35] <grahamsavage> hi, i need to add 200 vpn's too my vpn configurations
[10:35] <grahamsavage> is there a directory of configurations i can edit?
[10:35]  * cfhowlett resists urge to query what the heck he's running over there.
[10:36] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: you should have the same problems :)
[10:36] <grahamsavage> it's us vs GFOC
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: which vpn provider are you using these days?
[10:37] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, technically VPN use is illegal in China so ...
[10:37] <Bray90820> coudl i do somethging like this to slow down the pointer
[10:37] <Bray90820> xinput --set-prop 10 "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" 2.8
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: no it's not
[10:37] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: there's no law against using vpns
[10:37] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, eh ... conflicting stories.  I choose not to test the issue.
[10:38] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: i've talked to people high up in gov/isps.. also there was one on chinalawblog a while back
[10:38] <grahamsavage> anyone telling you otherwise is full of crap
[10:39] <grahamsavage> otherwise companies wouldn't be able to work, because they all need their own vpns
[10:39] <cfhowlett> grahamsavage, so far, I've managed to live without daily, unfettered access to social media.  Tried to the use the VPN at the embassy, but that one IS throttled to single digit throughput.
[10:40] <grahamsavage> cfhowlett: yes.. i don't give a crap about social media.. but pretty much the entire internet doesn't work
[10:40] <cfhowlett> :)  yeah.
[10:40] <grahamsavage> API websites, stackoverflow, github (for 2 weeks) + many many other work only related resources
[10:40] <Sh1G3rU> good news everyone vpns are not illegal in china
[10:40] <grahamsavage> Sh1G3rU: not going to help much.. most of them don't work
[10:40] <grahamsavage> and if they do only for a short period
[10:41] <Sh1G3rU> i stayed for a week in a hotel in beijing and as usual my laptop connects to the internet to my vpn and it worked fine
[10:42] <grahamsavage> good for you
[10:42] <Sh1G3rU> from my vpn*
[10:42] <Bray90820> How woudl i find the hid of a bluetooth mouse
[10:43] <grahamsavage> but.. i can assure you, if you lived here longterm... you'd find it hard to have any stable solution..  We currently have 3 different VPN providers and our own.. we run over ipsec / pptp / openvpn (and an astrill varient), we change port numbers and protocols from udp/tcp... it's impossible to get a long term stable connection
[10:43] <Beldar> Bray90820, along the lines similar to your command. http://patrickmylund.com/blog/lowering-gaming-mouse-sensitivity-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[10:44] <grahamsavage> additionally, they do turn it up and off.. for example around polictically sensitive times.. all the vpns stop working
[10:44] <Bray90820> Beldar: i already showed down the pointer
[10:44] <Bray90820> but now i need to incress the scroll wheel
[10:44] <Beldar> Bray90820, cool, good job.
[10:44] <Bray90820> or the equivlint of on my mouse
[10:45] <nineTHe> is it possable to add middle mouse click scrolling functionality?
[10:46] <navin> everytime i update ubuntu i see +1 ubuntu option in the boot menu
[10:46] <Beldar> nineTHe, I have it on my mouse.
[10:46] <navin> whats the propblem?
[10:47] <nineTHe> Beldar: are you using 13.10?
[10:47] <navin> no 12.04 LTS
[10:47] <faulter> Hey all
[10:47] <Beldar> nineTHe, What is your definition of "click scrolling functionality"
[10:48] <nineTHe> Beldar: when you click your middle mouse button and then can scroll up and down by moving your mouse, like in windows
[10:49] <Beldar> nineTHe, Hmm, it is working in all my ubuntu installs precise, 13.10 and 14.04
[10:49] <Sh1G3rU> nineTHe, you probably need to buy a new mouse because they have invented a mous with two buttons and a scrolling wheel in the midle
[10:49] <nineTHe> Sh1G3rU: lol
[10:49] <Sh1G3rU> :P
[10:50] <navin> is any body there who can listen me?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> navin, no, we can't listen.
[10:50] <Teleport> navin grub
[10:50] <faulter> navin: Hey
[10:50] <Beldar> navin, Have you modified grub?
[10:51] <navin> beldar : no i havent done anything like that
[10:51] <navin> i am new to ubuntu
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett found the net solution
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett bluetooth!
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Teleport, fixed?
[10:51] <Beldar> navin, Can we see what this looks like?
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett yeah ;))
[10:51] <cfhowlett> Teleport, good work!
[10:51] <Teleport> cfhowlett tnx
[10:52] <navin> sorry, i observed it on boot menu
[10:52] <Teleport> navin try to config your grub
[10:52] <Beldar> navin, try sudo update-grub and see if it is there.
[10:53] <navin> thanx teleport but can u plz tell me how to do that?
[10:53] <Teleport> navin follow Beldar 's instruction
[10:54] <navin> its showing the list
[10:54] <Bray90820> is  /etc/modprobe.d/magicmouse.conf still around in 13.10
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-56-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-54-generic-pae
[10:54] <navin> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:54] <FloodBot1> navin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:54] <navin> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[10:55] <Beldar> navin, is the +1 the multiple kernels?
[10:55] <navin> no +1 means whenever i update it the options increment
[10:55] <k1l_> navin: remove the old kernel packages, if you don want that much options at grub
[10:56] <vocx> Beldar, yes, he means he has one more row. It basically means the new kernel was installed, but the old kernel is still there. I guess people didn't get the question.
[10:56] <k1l_> navin: yes, that are new kernels
[10:56] <Beldar> navin, when ever you get a new kernel it is added to the boot menu.
[10:56] <liam> hola amigoes
[10:57] <navin> k1l ,ok as i told i dont know too much how to remove old kernel?
[10:57] <faulter> guys what do you use to connect to IRC?
[10:58] <Beldar> navin, find the ubuntu tweak ppa and install it and the janitor function will clean our kernels, bet to keep two sets is all.
[10:58] <wedr> faulter: irssi
[10:58] <wedr> best client ever
[10:58] <nineTHe> faulter: irssi
[10:58] <Beldar> s/your/best
[10:58] <k1l_> navin: see "dpkg -l | grep linux-image"  that will list all installed kernel packages.  after that you remove the "linux-image-....." packages from the old kernels. but keep at least one kernel on your system :)
[10:58] <faulter> ok me too, is not anything better?
[10:58] <navin> ok please tell me will it effct if i have windows too
[10:59] <k1l_> Beldar: i dont think ubuntu tweak is a good advice
[10:59] <k1l_> navin: no. that is just ubuntu kernels
[10:59] <maxvi> hi everyone! how can I change keyboard layouts in ubuntu 13.10?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> maxvi, of course.
[11:00] <k1l_> faulter: use xchat if you are on GUI and not kde
[11:00] <Beldar> k1l_, That is your opinion it is suggested here by other ops, for a new user unable to even understand why they are there it is failproof.
[11:00] <faulter> k1l_: I hate Graphical User Interface...
[11:00] <nineTHe> maxvi: have you tried system settings > text entry
[11:01] <Guest8621> HI guys, I just got ubuntu 13.10 and im trying to set some icons, ive downloaded them, installed them and went on to use the tweak tool to update them however they didnt change at all, am i doing something wrong or is there a way to do this manually
[11:01] <Beldar> anyway night all happy thanksgiving to those celebrating
[11:01] <maxvi> nineTHe: Super+Space but it doesn't work (
[11:03] <navin> k1l: i have list of all linux image in front of me now how to remove the kernel.
[11:03] <navin> and how would i know which should i remove
[11:03] <k1l_> navin: "sudo apt-get remove package" for package put the old linux-images there you see in that list
[11:04] <k1l_> navin: remove all old ones but keept least one.
[11:04] <navin> i dont know which one image is "the cuplrit"
[11:05] <Bray90820> Can someone explain to mw what Device Accel Velocity Scaling is
[11:05] <soman> how to diagnose why opera works slow after about 1-2min of work every time a run it? Xubuntu 12.04, Opera 12.16 1860, Linux i686, 3.2.0-56-generic. No updates were installed and only tineye plugin is enabled. 2 days ago all worked well.
[11:05] <vocx> navin, what do you mean by culprit? Is there a problem with one of them?
[11:06] <vocx> soman, open Opera from the command line and see the messages for a clue.
[11:06] <frog_> hello, I just wanna know if it is possible to run KDM (login screen) inside Xephyr session, and if it is possible anyone know how to do it?
[11:07] <navin> yes the problem is why too many options coming there to select ubuntu
[11:07] <navin> vocx
[11:07] <soman> vocx: thanks I will try now
[11:08] <vocx> navin, that in itself is not a problem.
[11:08] <k1l_> navin: just delete the old kernels
[11:08] <k1l_> navin: it is not a real problem
[11:09] <navin> vocx:no brother,actually i can see more than one options on my boot menu for choosing ubuntu...
[11:09] <k1l_> navin: that is not a problem. just choose the latest one
[11:10] <navin> K1l : then whats the problem? i m scared if it creates any big problem in my PC
[11:10] <vocx> navin, the Linux kernel is the backbone of Ubuntu. When there is a major upgrade, there is usually a new kernel added. The old kernel is left as a fallback in case the new kernel doesn't work. If you are sure the new kernel works, then you can safely uninstall or remove the old kernels. The old kernels will have smaller numbers than the most recent one.
[11:10] <k1l_> navin: i dont know why you are scared?
[11:11] <Guest8621> I just got ubuntu 13.10 and I'm trying to change the icons, I've downloaded the ones i want, i have also installed them and after that I went on to use the tweak tool to change them however they didn't change at all, am I doing something wrong or is there anyway to do this manually?
[11:11] <navin> ok let it be.. please tell me here ii  linux-image-3.2.0-23-generic-pae       3.2.0-23.36                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 64 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-54-generic-pae       3.2.0-54.82                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-3.2.0-56-generic-pae       3.2.0-56.86                             Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on 32 bit x86 SMP
[11:11] <navin> ii  linux-image-generic-pae                3.2.0.56.66                             Generic Linux kernel image
[11:11] <FloodBot1> navin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:11] <navin> which one should i remove?
[11:12] <fault3r> ...
[11:13] <vocx> navin, in this case -23 and -54 are smaller than -56
[11:13] <navin> k1l : I am ubuntu is totally new for me
[11:13] <navin> means i have to remove 23 and 54
[11:13] <navin> ?
[11:14] <navin> am i correct vocx?
[11:14] <vocx> navin, you can do that.
[11:14] <urielvigilant> I did this question in Lubutu Channel. In Lubuntu 13.10 , i went to Session Definitons, then i put a signal on Aplet impression to manage files impression and in the energy manager, both open, but then when i Terminate computer and switch off after Switch on it don t open atStartUp. How to do that permanetly ?
[11:14] <k1l_> navin: keep "linux-image-generic-pae " and "linux-image-3.2.0-56-generic-pae "
[11:14] <navin> ok
[11:14] <k1l_> navin: but you not have to remove them. only if you dont need them or dont want them to show in the grub menue
[11:15] <navin> yes thats the thing i dont want them to be shown in grub if they will not create any kind of problem in future
[11:17] <vocx> navin, k1l_ I say removing the old kernel is fine in this case, because navin seems to not use them nor cause any other problem.
[11:17] <adv_am> hi
[11:17] <navin> ok m removin them now
[11:18] <fault3r> is anyone from Iran?
[11:18] <fault3r> is anyone from Iran?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> fault3r, this isn't a social channel.
[11:19] <fault3r> cfhowleet: no matter, i cant speak english. i want just an iranian...
[11:20] <nineTHe> i am trying to add a beeping noise when my nick is mentioned. Can someone type my name to test if this worked?
[11:21] <fault3r> cfhowlett: no matter, i cant speak english. i want just an iranian...
[11:21] <cfhowlett> fault3r, OK
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !farsi
[11:22] <fault3r> cfhowlett: np
[11:22] <fault3r> ubottu thanks a lot... then bye
[11:22] <navin> done with removing thanx K1l and vocx
[11:22] <navin> have a nice day
[11:22] <fault3r> cfhowlett: thanks
[11:23] <mrobinsonuk> Hi, has anyone had any success setting up 13.10 on encrypted lvm (I've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto) - I can only get as far as update-initramfs but this step fails with warnings and errors, e.g. proc already mounted, /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: 33: .: Can't open /conf/arch.conf
[11:26] <Bray90820> How would I set an applaction to run on startup in 13.10
[11:27] <Bray90820> nevermind
[11:27] <Bray90820> i just wasn't thinking
[11:27]  * Bray90820 needs to go to bed
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:30] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip:
[11:30] <mrobinsonuk> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:32] <scrxw> whats the name of the program again, the one in which you can set the a window as a background on part of your desktop?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: are there any bugs reported?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> mrobinsonuk: is this using the default Ubuntu ISO?
[11:35] <frog_>  hello, I just wanna know if it is possible to run KDM (login screen) inside Xephyr session, and if it is possible anyone know how to do it?
[11:35] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip: From the live CD I have created an encrypted volume, setup lvm partitions on this, then installed Ubuntu 13.10 into those. After installation and rebooting I am left at a busybox prompt. Grub/init isn't aware of the encrypted volume so cant find / - I've search for reported bugs, IRC is a last resort - yes it is the default 13.10 cd - in the past I would have used an alternate cd
[11:36] <mrobinsonuk> ActionParsnip: Normally I would be confident that I would be able to fix this by chrooting into the installation and updating initramfs - but this doesnt work
[11:39] <scrxw> Conky!
[11:41] <mangrovejack> hi
[11:41] <gstaniak> hi
[11:41] <mangrovejack> who's good with canon printer drivers please?
[11:42] <mangrovejack> MG5460
[11:42] <mangrovejack> running ubuntu desktop 13.10
[11:45] <Rory> mangrovejack: Have you got the driver from Canon's site?
[11:45] <k1l_> mangrovejack: im not good with printers. but giving more details would help to help you
[11:46] <mangrovejack> i will ask canon tomorrow, it's canons problem
[11:46] <mangrovejack> thanks anyway
[11:46] <mangrovejack> have a good day or night
[11:46] <mangrovejack> bye
[11:47] <gstaniak> i need some dns help, or a referral to a better place to ask the question: i'm using 12.04 and i need to 'overshadow' or 'mask' dns quesries going outside to my default dns servers. let's say i'm on 192.168.1.100, my dns servers that i gog through dhcp are 192.168.2.20 and .21, dnsmasq runs configured by network-manager using those external dns servers, and i get from them names for, say, domain.com (for which they're authoritative) -- i need a cnam
[11:47] <gstaniak> e for A.domain.com, like e.g. test.domain.com, visible only to my machine. can this be done using dnsmasq?
[11:47] <sebas_> Does anyone know how to solve the skin error of qmmp?
[11:48] <Rory> !details | sebas_
[11:48] <sebas_> Ubuntu 13.10 deafult qmmp start the program and get a weird looking skin
[11:49] <sebas_> I see the skin twice overlayed
[11:50] <sebas_> When I do a win+D the skin goes better but then the playlist bugs too
[11:52] <mtree> hey, im wondering why xfontsel dont see my truetype fonts. Any ideas?
[11:58] <BluesKaj_> Hiyas all
[12:01] <adamu> Hello
[12:02] <eunir> hey
[12:09] <sahil__> hello people
[12:09] <eunir> hey
[12:10] <sahil__> my plymouth is not working
[12:10] <Guest29038> Hola a todos.
[12:10] <Rory> !es
[12:10] <sahil__> not even the fallback mode
[12:18] <chillibite> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an hp 255  g1 - it has windows 8 installed and it has something i've never seen before, there's no bios options at boot, there are some options in the winows 8 settings to boot from a live cd or boot disk, though when i did i wasn't sure if i did do the install it would boot normally?
[12:19] <chillibite> also, once i booted the live cd from the windows 8 options to restart and boot from a cd, the wifi card wasn't working, yet i have read that this laptop sometimes comes with ubuntu pre-installed alongside windows 8?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> chillibite. doubt that there would be a dual boot available in a retail store
[12:23] <chillibite> BluesKaj: in Europe this laptop is shipped with two OS's installed, windows 8 and Ubuntu
[12:24] <chillibite> BluesKaj: I ordered it from France (I am in Zimbabwe) and for some reason mine came with only Windows 8 installed, which is a real let down - but anyway - since it ships with Ubuntu in other places- why doesn't the wifi card work?
[12:24] <chillibite> I need wifi - a lot of the time i cannot use an ethernet cable
[12:24] <fault3r> gi
[12:24] <fault3r> hi
[12:24] <BluesKaj> chillibite.  then the retailer must be installing ubuntu , probly against the rules wiih MS in NA
[12:25] <fault3r> is anybody help me?
[12:25] <k1l_> !details | fault3r
[12:25] <fault3r> how can i register in IRC?
[12:26] <Lareneg> chillibite: i purchased an usb stick with wifi. works perfect.
[12:26] <k1l_> !register | fault3r
[12:26] <k1l_> fault3r: if you have problems with that please ask in #freenode
[12:29] <kongthap> i'm installing ubuntu 13.04, after finished installing the files and reboot i'm stucking at "grub rescue" prompt what to do???
[12:29] <kongthap> the error is '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mode not found
[12:30] <faulter> ..
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:33] <kongthap> i used to use this usb installer before, but my ubuntu got messed up i just want to re-install again
[12:34] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, i found some answer on google it said to remount "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" is this command correct???
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: sure, why not. Doesn't hurt anything
[12:36] <fault3r> hi
[12:36] <koka> есть кто с москвы??
[12:37] <aliendough> a
[12:37] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" or "mount /dev/sda5 /" ????
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> kongthap: what does sda5 represent in your OS
[12:39] <fault3r> how can i see persian characters in terminal or irssi?
[12:39] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, sda5 is the partition where ubuntu exists
[12:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, i got some other partitions for winxp and win7
[12:40] <phutchins> good morning
[12:40] <kongthap> ActionParsnip, so i should mount sda5 to /mnt or mount to / ??? i don't quite understand much about this
[12:41] <phutchins> Anyone experienced with running kvm vm's on 13.10? I'm having trouble after trouble and wondering if its worth it or if i should just jump back to 12.04 before I spend too much time on this...
[12:41] <fault3r> how can i see persian characters in terminal or irssi?
[12:43] <tasab_> hi every1
[12:45] <jony_easyrider> how can I reset the wallet in Krusader?
[12:45] <Guest22> anyone here
[12:45] <fault3r> how can i see UTF-8 in terminal or irssi?
[12:45] <fault3r> Guest22: hey
[12:46] <dry[2]> Could anyone explain me this, please (permissions): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190292
[12:46] <sahil__> hello ppl
[12:46] <sahil__> my plymouth is not working,not even the fallback text mode
[12:46] <sahil__> any help reguarding this?
[12:46] <Guest22> sahil__ need help
[12:47] <fault3r> Guest22: what is your problem?
[12:48] <Guest22> i will pm you
[12:48] <k1l_> !details | Guest22
[12:49] <altin_> do you guys know what could be the problem that it takes sooo long to login (loading for long time) on my laptop ?
[12:49] <altin_> I have a i7 with 8GB of RAM
[12:49] <altin_> could it be a compatibility issue or maybe a defect in my HDD ?
[12:50] <kongthap> i got same error as "http://askubuntu.com/questions/266429/error-file-grub-i386-pc-normal-mod-not-found" but i don't know about mounting... should i mount my sda5 to /mnt or mount to / ???
[12:52] <Kruppt> kongthap:sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5;mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5  <-from term/console
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: does the system show the login screen eventually?
[12:53] <sahil__> yes..
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> altin_: have you tested RAM using metest86 from grub?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: then why care?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> altin_: you can run:  dmesg | less     you can look for large gaps in time on the left hand colomn
[12:54] <sahil__> everything is normal...execept the fact that i get old screen like redhat 5 or so...
[12:54] <kongthap> Kruppt, do i have to boot into the installer????
[12:55] <sahil__> i was playing with the packages in synaptic when this happened
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> sahil__: could reinstall the plymouth package, may help
[12:55] <sahil__> tried...not working
[12:56] <Kruppt> kongthap: are you booted into a live environment or a install on a flash...what?
[12:57] <altin_> ActionParsnip: how can I actually test with dmesg
[12:57] <kongthap> Kruppt, i use usb flash drive instead of cd
[12:58] <altin_> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/h5WPC5Hx
[13:00] <Kruppt> kongthap:when booted into the OS you installed ubuntu from (usb flash or drive) run the command I posted earlier.
[13:02] <Kruppt> kongthap:before installing you should run "sudo fdisk -l" from terminal to be sure you know what block devices are which partitions before you hose something
[13:06] <osubuntu> What do the flood bots do?
[13:06] <LjL> flood
[13:06] <k1l_> osubuntu: they help manage the channel
[13:07] <osubuntu> why are them named flood
[13:07] <osubuntu> they control flood?
[13:07] <LjL> yes
[13:07] <k1l_> osubuntu: to prevent floods.
[13:07] <osubuntu> i wonder why there are 3
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> altin_: scroll down looking for large gaps in time on the left
[13:07] <Brandano> is there a way to ensure that the local dnsmasq instance will forward all dns requests to the dhcp assigned dns server? Using Ubuntu Server 12.4 LTS
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> osubuntu  in case of netsplit, there's always one available
[13:08] <osubuntu> Is 12.10 LTS btw?
[13:08] <osubuntu> Quantai
[13:08] <DJones> osubuntu: No
[13:08] <Brandano> AFAIK the last LTS is 12.04
[13:08] <DJones> !lts | osubuntu
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> osubuntu  no 12.04 is alt, 14.04 will be the next
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> lts*
[13:08] <osubuntu> alt!
[13:09] <osubuntu> good replacement
[13:09] <osubuntu> alt is a good replacement for lts? lol
[13:09] <osubuntu> (Was off-topic, sorry)
[13:09] <Brandano> only off by one letter
[13:10] <bcuraboy> hey guys.i got a question.hw to enable extra resolutions on a fullhd tv with ubuntu 13.04 and a Nvidia G105M graphic card? what i want is extra reslutions besides the 1920x1080 and 1280x1024 and under..cause between these two there's no more choices.. :(
[13:10] <Brandano> should come pretty close if you use levenstein distance
[13:10] <Brandano> bcuraboy: the card should read the available resolution from the monitor, in this case the TV, via the hdmi cable
[13:11] <altin_> ActionParsnip: these are the last ones http://pastebin.com/evKwjSs2
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> altin_: it's not about the last ones
[13:12] <g0d> ActionParsnip: I have a question...if you have enough manly-balls to answer this specific and clearfully-structured question of mine; How did you, get this such superior Linux knowledge?
[13:12] <bcuraboy> yes,but i've been dealing with some hd tv's for a while and my on my own tv i don't get the resolution like 1366x760 ...
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> altin_: you need to READ the alues on the left, if you se a large gap in the number, that is where your slowness is
[13:12] <g0d> everybody stay quiet.
[13:12] <g0d> let ActionParsnip answer.
[13:12] <LjL> g0d: please.
[13:12] <g0d> altin_: let him speak, goddamnit.
[13:12] <g0d> sorry LjL.
[13:12] <fault3r> how can i close a private chat in irssi?
[13:12] <altin_> yes but these are the biggest numbers I could find
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> g0d: using it a long time and helping other, you see a lot of issues and you fix them and learn
[13:12] <Brandano> bcuraboy: sometimes this fails to work, or the driver won't read the proper info, or the cable does not provide enough data lines
[13:12] <altin_> aha
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> g0d: just like any OS, it breaks, you fix it, you learn
[13:12] <fault3r> how can i close a private chat in irssi?
[13:13] <g0d> ActionParsnip: what if...it doesn't break?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> fault3r: /win cl      with the window being active
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> g0d: mine doesn't so I have to help others to learn
[13:13] <Brandano> bcuraboy: with the nvidia drivers you can specify a static EDID file, the problem is getting a hold of a compatible one
[13:13] <bcuraboy> Brandano, ok.maybe if i buy a new hdmi cable i could get the resolutions i need,right?
[13:13] <fault3r> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:13] <altin_> are you saying that a large gap is sth like: [101445.009862] smpboot: CPU 2 is now offline
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> g0d: i'm sure your abilities in Windows would impress some new users
[13:13] <altin_> ?
[13:13] <hackboy787> Hello!
[13:14] <Brandano> bcuraboy: yep, but no guarantees
[13:14] <bcuraboy> of course
[13:14] <Brandano> bcuraboy: perhaps the TV is not returning the EDID information
[13:14] <bcuraboy> thank's man
[13:14] <hackboy787> Happy Thanksgiving to all of you !
[13:14] <altin_> ActionParsnip:
[13:14] <bcuraboy> hmm  i don't understand nothing about that
[13:14] <g0d> ActionParsnip: Windows, is a word that I have ejaculated on since my birth.
[13:14] <g0d> I am not very fond of Windows, ActionParsnip..and neither is anybody in here. You are insulting #ubuntu by inspiring us to use Wndows.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> altin_: if the line above ithas a significantly smaller number than 101445.009862 then yes, (th enmumber is the number of seconds since the kernel came up)
[13:15] <k1l_> g0d: could you please stick to family friendly language and to technical ubuntu support in here
[13:15] <g0d> k1l_: sorry.
[13:15] <bcuraboy> Brandano, thank's man.see you soon
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> g0d: but you get the idea, if you play with your OS to learn and break it you will learn to fix it etc. Try running some servers and get them configured nicely (mail server, Web facing DNS and so forth)
[13:15] <k1l_> g0d: and i suggest you drop that attitude against volunteers. keep this channel clear for ubuntu support
[13:16] <Brandano> bcuraboy: the card queries the monitor, the monitor returns a record, with various info about resolution, refresh rate etc. This is called EDID protocol
[13:16] <Brandano> sometimes monitors or TV's won't list all possible resolutions, either because of a fault or a manufactorer choice
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> g0d: never said 'use windows' simply stated that newcomers to windows often have a lot more windows ability so it's easier for them to relate.
[13:16] <impi> hello, is there a way i can create a mac bootable usb with ubuntu?
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> impi: unetbootin maybe
[13:17] <impi> ActionParsnip, i checked it out, but cant see that it can make a img
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> impi: why would you want an img?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> impi: unetbootin will use the ISO you download (and MD5 test) from Ubuntu.com
[13:18] <impi> ActionParsnip, let me check again, i might have missed it
[13:19] <impi> im trying it now, will let you know, thanks for the advice ActionParsnip
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> impi: np :)
[13:20]  * Brandano wonders if he lost a reply in the noise
[13:21] <g0d> alright guys, fault3r speaks italian so he wasn't able to speak english in here, he is trying to ask: How can he see farsi characters in the terminal?
[13:21] <g0d> fault3r: veh delo #ubuntu che answer...
[13:21] <g0d> farsi, is persian.
[13:22] <g0d> farsi is just like arabian.
[13:22] <g0d> most of it's words are arab.
[13:22] <fault3r> g0d: yes,then?
[13:22]  * Brandano was wondering what Italian had to do with that
[13:22] <g0d> Brandano: I don't know either.
[13:23] <g0d> can you guys please help fault3r? he wants to see farsi characters in the terminal
[13:23] <MonkeyDust> !ir
[13:23] <g0d> fault3r, go to #ubuntu-ir
[13:23] <fault3r> ubottu there is no one...
[13:24] <fault3r> g0d: there is no one :D
[13:24] <g0d> MonkeyDust: the channel is empty, you dickhead.
[13:24] <g0d> alright guys, I have to go. please assist fault3r.
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> glad he's gone
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> aye
[13:33] <Brandano> Is there a way, in Server 12.04, to set the local DNSMasq to forward ALL queries to the DHCP assigned DNS server?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: isnt that default?
[13:34] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: I'd imagine so, but doesn't look like it
[13:35] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: I have set the same dns suffix both on the server that DHCP is forwarding and on the initial setup for the machine. My bet is that it's disregarding anything with the local suffix because it believes to be the non-authoritative server for them
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: if that wasnt the way, nobody would get web access in Ubuntu
[13:36] <Brandano> so either I must change the suffix on the local dnsmasq instance, which I don't like much as a solution, or tell it not to resolve local queries, which I'd prefer
[13:37] <Brandano> or, I guess, i remove the local suffix entirely
[13:42] <msafi> Guys, I'm thinking of switching from Windows to Ubuntu on my ThinkPad. But I've heard a lot people complaining that Ubuntu is awkward and not as well supported as Windows, like there's no iTunes, Photoshop, etc?
[13:42] <msafi> Do you have any advice for me?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> msafi: itunes will not run in Ubuntu
[13:42] <ObrienDave> msafi, there are free equivalents for just about anything you want to do in Windows
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> msafi: there is Gimp in Ubuntu, you can use abstraction layers like Cedega and Wine to get Photoshop to run. There is an appdb with how to get things working (if at all)
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> msafi: all I can suiggest is boot to a live cd or USB and try it
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: you could add the search suffix you desire in network manager
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: if you add WAN based DNS IPs in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head they will be used before any DHCP gained name server
[13:45] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: nm-tools from a terminal? I manage the machine via SSH
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: or (if you can) tweak your DHCP server to give the 'search' name via DHCP :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: sure, why not, the  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head file is just a file
[13:46] <Brandano> ActionParsnip: my DHCP server is already set up so that it will consistently resolve both wan and lan addresses, it is essentially another dnsmasq instance, running on openwrt
[13:47] <Brandano> so if I can get that dns to resolve queries it will work fine. my problem is that while wan ip's seem to resolve properly, names in the local suffix do not
[13:47] <Brandano> but only for that machine
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: if you use /etc/network/interfaces instead you can have abolute control
[13:50] <Brandano> I am not very keen on installing network-manager, because it pulls a whole lot of desktop environment dependencies I don't really have an use for
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: who said network-manager?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Brandano: use the interfaces file :)
[13:51] <zykotick9> Brandano: /etc/network/interfaces is the opposite of N-M ;)
[13:52] <Brandano> it's what I currently have: iface eth0 inet dhcp
[13:52] <Brandano> it really OUGHT to be enough. Apparently I am missing something
[13:57] <pic01> in Kubuntu 12.04 how can I change my username?
[13:57] <zykotick9> pic01: creating a new user, then copying the files over, MIGHT be easier then changing the name... YMMV
[13:57] <compdoc> might be best to add a new user
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> pic01: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/03/how-to-change-your-username-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot/
[13:58] <pic01> zykotick9, in ubuntu 12.04 it worked perfectly, but in Kubuntu gives me an error
[13:59] <zykotick9> pic01: there are some "issues" with changing the name...  best of luck.
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> not seen an issue, the name just relates to a UID
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> personally I wouldnt bother
[14:14] <Iceman> Can anybody help me by telling me where to install a theme for 13.10
[14:14] <Iceman> ?????
[14:14] <geekmasterflash> Iceman, Which desktop environment do you use?
[14:15] <Brandano> assuming Unity, http://askubuntu.com/questions/318253/how-do-i-customize-unity-on-ubuntu-13-04
[14:15] <Iceman> geekmasterflash unity
[14:15] <Brandano> I bet 13.10 won't be far off
[14:15] <Iceman> 7.1.2
[14:15] <ObrienDave> that's a debian version
[14:16] <VlanX> cold please anyone explain me how DD works?
[14:16] <Brandano> Iceman: this seems for 13.10: http://itsfoss.com/how-to-install-themes-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[14:17] <clocKwize> hi, I'd like to be able to have a fully self contained ubuntu on a usb pen drive, is that possible? like including the file system, so I can plug in and boot from it, then unplug it and its totally separate from the pc I'm using it on
[14:17] <Iceman> Thanks Brandano
[14:17] <Brandano> VlanX: DD copies a stream to another it can do too many things to be explained in few words. Your best bet is to read the manpage and search for case uses on the web
[14:18] <Brandano> VlanX: used carelessly DD can completely wipe your system, so make sure you know what you are doing
[14:18] <gisli> anyone in here have any experience with kickstarting Ubuntu-install via Cobbler?
[14:18] <compdoc> clocKwize, i think it is possible
[14:19] <ObrienDave> clocKwize, yes, you can do that. I have several ;)
[14:19] <Brandano> clocKwize: it is perfectly possible, i have a live distro with storage on an 8GB pendrive
[14:19] <clocKwize> How do you do it? Is there any guides?
[14:19] <zykotick9> clocKwize: you can do an install onto a USB drive as well...
[14:20] <ObrienDave> clocKwize, burn ISO to DVD, Install to USB stick. easy peasy
[14:21] <VlanX> Brandano: cause i have a semi-faulty windows HDD and i wonder if i can clone it to another healy drive using dd
[14:21] <horrow> hey all i need some help to change my ubuntu 13.10 login screen resolution ? if somebody can help pls response..
[14:23] <Brandano> VlanX: you can errors and all
[14:23] <ObrienDave> clocKwize, burn ISO to DVD, boot DVD, Install to USB stick. easy peasy
[14:23] <Brandano> VlanX: DD will make a bit for bit copy. You may have to resize the partitions once the data is over
[14:24] <clocKwize> I don't have a dvd drive
[14:24] <clocKwize> can I boot from a USB stick and install on the same usb stick? :/
[14:24] <ObrienDave> no
[14:24] <zykotick9> clocKwize: no
[14:24] <theadmin> clocKwize: No, you can use two sticks
[14:24] <clocKwize> ok
[14:24] <clocKwize> might give that ago
[14:24] <clocKwize> ago*
[14:24] <clocKwize> a go*
[14:24] <clocKwize> damn..
[14:24] <FloodBot1> clocKwize: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <clocKwize> sorry FloodBot1 :(
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> clocKwize: you may be able to make a small partition on the USB and use unetbootin to that , then use the remaining space to install to
[14:25] <frog_> Can I connect to another computer using lightdm/gdm via XDMCP on login window?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> clocKwize: not done it but it makes sense
[14:25] <horrow> hey all i need some help to change my ubuntu 13.10 login screen resolution ? if somebody can help pls response..
[14:25] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: that might end in tears... two different bootloaders on the same usb...
[14:25] <frog_> I found option remote connect in KDM (when XDMCP servers are configured I can easly connect to another machine) but it seems like GDM/lightdm dont have this option
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: well the installer will overwrite the bootloader with Grub2, should be fine
[14:26] <Brandano> perhaps you can run a network install onto the USB stick as well... which would be a rather novel approach, considered how bloody complex it is to set up a server for a network install at all
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> horrow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[14:26] <tangorri> hi
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> horrow: http://www.sudo-juice.com/lightdm-resolution/
[14:26] <Brandano> but there's no shortage of people that will do their best to find the most complex solution to a problem
[14:27] <tangorri> I need to install recent release of Glassfish (JEE server), any chance to get it form packages ?
[14:27] <horrow> ActionParsnip
[14:27] <horrow> ActionParsnip isnt working on 13.10
[14:27] <horrow> i allready tryed it
[14:27] <Brandano> tangorri: perhaps it has a ppa repository?
[14:28] <tangorri> ppa ?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> horrow: what, you tried the bash script to set the res?
 yes but conf directory for lightdm is missing from my 13.10
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | tangorri
[14:28] <horrow> idk why
[14:28] <tangorri> ok
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> horrow: try making it, it may be used
[14:28] <tangorri> thanks
[14:28] <Brandano> tangorri: unsupported, unofficial, generally bleeding edge third party repository for  packages
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: you may find one there, great search. duckduckgo can also search PPAs for you
[14:29] <compdoc> horrow, have you tried editing /etc/default/grub   ?
[14:29] <horrow> yes
[14:29] <tangorri> hmmm the site timeout will try later
[14:29] <horrow> doesnt work only on grub conf
[14:29] <horrow> i need this script to run automat when os loads
[14:30] <horrow> and on old releases like 12.10 it was in lighdm.conf i just add instruction at the end but in 13.10 the conf file is missing and i cant load the script
[14:30] <Brandano> tangorri: bleeding edge means that you might get cut as well. Probably best to avoid PPA's in production environments unless you know their source really well
[14:30] <tangorri> ye sure
[14:30] <tangorri> just for dev
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> horrow: could try adding the script in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0 line, with a small pause at the start of the script so that lightdm has time to load
[14:31] <Brandano> I'd check from the glassfish official page for instructions
[14:31] <tangorri> how can I see the version of a pacakge please from cli ?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: http://download.java.net/glassfish/4.0/release/glassfish-4.0-unix.sh
[14:31] <tangorri> need 3.2
[14:31] <tangorri> :)
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: https://glassfish.java.net/download.html
[14:31] <tangorri> yes
[14:31] <tangorri> juste wanted to try with apt get
[14:32] <tangorri> as I need to install jdk etc as well
[14:32] <Brandano> not always the best solution. I'd also check the "alternatives" system
[14:32] <tangorri> thanks Brandano
[14:33] <Brandano> tangorri: in extremis, when it comes to java I'd consider setting up a chrootfor it
[14:34] <tangorri> don't now how to chroot / don't have time / just for creating a simple pdf generator on a vm :)
[14:35] <Brandano> with all the JVM's orbiting out there I'd be worried of messing things up
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: could use cups-pdf as a pdf printer. much simpler
[14:35] <Brandano> Ah, if it's a VM you can just take a snapshot
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> http://dlc.sun.com.edgesuite.net/glassfish/3.2/promoted/
[14:35]  * Brandano uses reportlab with python
[14:35] <tangorri> ActionParsnip : I'm doing webdev for a client who need a java pone
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: i see
[14:36] <Brandano> tangorri: better still use the phone's emulator
[14:36] <tangorri> ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> tangorri: i'd just share the pdf printer via cups then have a share to get at the files
[14:37] <tangorri> I need to generated a pdf report from webserivces nothing else guys :)
[14:47] <Psi|4ward> hi guys, can anyone explain to me how the $HOME encryption is working? Its luks right?
[14:47] <zykotick9> Psi|4ward: i don't think directory encryption uses luks...
[14:48] <Psi|4ward> i thinking about the security - its decrypted via pam-login, so how can a password-change work?
[14:52] <Brandano> Psi|4ward: I assume that pam-login only protects the encryption keys
[14:53] <Psi|4ward> okay so root: passwd user changes the pam-passwd, whats with the enc-keys?
[14:53]  * Brandano is no cryptoanalyst
[14:54] <Psi|4ward> some points i really dont understand
[14:54] <zykotick9> Brandano: this wouldn't count as cryptoanalysis ;)
[14:54] <Brandano> if the keys had been compromised before, changing the user password won't restore security
[14:54] <Brandano> the content of the drive is not altere
[14:55] <Psi|4ward> compromising is not the problem but i dont understand the relation between pam-login and encryption-keys
[14:57] <Brandano> probably akin to changing passwords on a truecrypt archive
[14:58] <Brandano> the password only protects the archive header, that is then used to decrypt the archive content. changing the password will alter the header, but not the content
[14:58] <Brandano> and it will not re-encrypt the data
[14:58] <Psi|4ward> Brandano: of course thats not the point
[14:59] <Psi|4ward> but theres anything protecting this header in conjunktion with the pam-auth
[15:00] <Brandano> I don't think so, which means that once somehone has a mean to break the pam hashing mechanism the volume encryption is broken
[15:00] <Psi|4ward> and moreover someone gains root and can decrypt my home volume
[15:01] <Brandano> well, not sure about that. I don't think you can just replace the user hash and log in and expect things to work
[15:01] <Psi|4ward> perhaps root cant change users password anymore? if the header is already decrypted a pwd-change would result in an re-encrypted header
[15:02] <Brandano> I am definitely out of my depths on this one
[15:03] <Brandano> still, it's only as secure as pam-authentication by definition
[15:03] <Psi|4ward> thats the point i struggle about ;)
[15:03] <Brandano> if you want a more secure setup you should consider encrypting the entire OS
[15:04] <Brandano> might be enough for nosey flatmates, but no encryption has inbuilt protection against the lead-pipe approach
[15:04] <Psi|4ward> thats my actual way (and i dont use ubuntu) but i know the "encrypt home" option in the ubuntu installer - so i ask me - how do they do that in a secure way
[15:05] <discobiscuit> Is there a way to make Xubuntu (12.04) rotate background wallpapers through a rotating cycle, like in the Windows 7 Aero theme?
[15:06] <MajSlayer777> guys/ladies, um kinda new to Ubuntu, got a dedicated server, it's bare-bones, would like to install a desktop on it, but don't want it booting into it. What's a good desktop to use? main reason is I'd like to setup a remote desktop to it. Is so i can enjoy the server a bit more than just using SSH.
[15:06] <jackbrown> is there a way to capture a remote microphone on a LAtop using VNC ?  OF course I have the access of this computer on the LAN  ????????????????????????
[15:07] <MajSlayer777> I'm just not sure where to even start, only version of Ubuntu i've installed was from a .ISO and it pretty much came with a desktop..
[15:08] <Rory> !lubuntu | MajSlayer777
[15:08] <MajSlayer777> thanks
[15:08] <Rory> MajSlayer777: install with sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[15:08] <Rory> MajSlayer777: Great for a server if you aren't completely comfortable with CLI tools
[15:09] <MajSlayer777> aye sounds good if i can have a remote desktop, it's just easier than transfering files via ftp, and it would be nice to have a desktop
[15:10] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: if you run vncserver you can have several remote desktops. If you want to share a desktop you'll need x11vnc instead
[15:10] <MajSlayer777> only one website and red5 running on it currently, and it has a ssd drive, so i can't see it's going to "kill" performance all that much
[15:10] <Brandano> but since this is a server, and likely headless, vncserver ought to suit you well
[15:11] <Brandano> protocol is insecure, so only allow connections from localhost and tunnel them through ssh
[15:12] <MajSlayer777> hmm so many choices..
[15:14] <bunjee> what program utilizes the lightscribe software?.....anyone please?
[15:15] <MajSlayer777> anyhow thanks for helping me out guys, I noted everything down for later study
[15:17] <llutz> bunjee: http://www.lightscribe.com/downloadSection/linux/index.aspx  feel free to ruin your installation
[15:17] <zykotick9> bunjee: good luck with lightscribe... i haven't used/tried it in years - it was a pain at teh time, i doubt it's improved...
[15:17] <bunjee> ruin or run?
[15:18] <llutz> bunjee: ruin
[15:18] <bunjee> wow!....not good, hunh?
[15:19] <zykotick9> bunjee: fyi, lightscribe technology is propritary/non-free so there can't be any improvements made by the OS/Free software communities
[15:20] <llutz> even if it works, those media are ugly as hell
[15:20] <VictorCL> how can I add a route or a specific ip and port ?
[15:21] <bunjee> Thank you both!!
[15:22] <llutz> VictorCL: sudo ip route add ..... (man ip)
[15:23] <horrow> need help to change my login sreen resolution in 13.10
[15:23] <horrow> i tryed alot of guides with no success
[15:33] <Rory> horrow: Did you try the first answer here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/73804/wrong-login-screen-resolution
[15:33] <horrow> Rory i tryed itsnot working its working below then 13.10 releases only
[15:34] <horrow> than*
[15:35] <ActionPa1snip> horrow: could sit on 12.04 then upgrade direct to Trusty (LTS to LTS upgrades are supported) when Trusty is released
[15:36] <horrow> i hate 12.04 its alot of laggy for me
[15:36] <ActionPa1snip> horrow: Xubuntu :)
[15:36] <horrow> i want to configure 13.10 login screen resolotion there is a way but idk it :D
[15:36] <horrow> ye i love xubuntu too
[15:37] <ActionPa1snip> horrow: could install gdm and use that instead
[15:37] <horrow> is it better?
[15:38] <ActionPa1snip> horrow: its a login screen, may be more configurable fr you. I dont see how a login page can be 'better' than another
[15:38] <horrow> i mean that i have alot of problems with lighdm
[15:38] <horrow> and im not sure about that but is it possible my vga cable cause this problem ?
[15:38] <Layke> Kind of fed up a bit of having so many issues on my current ubuntu install. I'm going to install a fresh 13.10 and try and restore everything. Is there a best practice document for this?
[15:42] <Rory> Layke: Best to back up your home directory
[15:42] <Rory> !clone | Layke
[15:43] <Layke> !automate
[15:43] <Layke> Cheers Rory
[15:43] <ActionPa1snip> Layke: clean install is alwas a breath of fresh air :)
[15:43] <Layke> Yeah. I just keep hitting problem after proiblem every other month. I've maintained this install for about 4 years
[15:44] <Layke> So now I'm just going to stop upgrading and applying bandaid :)
[15:45] <Macgyver_> #freenode
[15:47] <ActionPa1snip> Layke: just sit on LTS releases and its smooooth sailin
[15:50]  * ObrienDave switched his to LTS only
[15:52]  * Rory also uses LTS only for set-and-forget servers, and recommends this approach
[15:52] <dragonkeeper> http://pastebin.com/ZjH33gB2
[15:53] <dragonkeeper> what package would i use to fix that ?
[15:53] <streulma> hello, is here anyone who have experiences with Linux on a Macbook Pro Retina, OR High DPI screen?
[15:55] <ObrienDave> dragonkeeper, is that for a phone???
[15:55] <ikhwan> hello everybody
[15:55] <ActionPa1snip> !anyone | streulma
[15:55] <tonyt> happy turkey day all
[15:55] <dragonkeeper> ObrienDave, yes
[15:56] <ikhwan> happy teachers day all
[15:56] <ikhwan> LoL
[15:56] <streulma> I have a really high DPI on my screen 2800px, how can I set the DPI for (fonts and) windows larger? For fonts I know already.
[15:57] <m1sf1t_> streulma: i normally do this by using a lower screen resolution. your way sounds like a long way round. unless theres a good reason to have such a high DPI
[16:03] <misterxyz> hey, is here anybody using an elitebook 8470p?
[16:04] <streulma> m1sflt_: yes but then is my font not sharp enough, how can I set the font sharper then?
[16:08] <Guardian1> how do i use mv to overwrite a directories files?
[16:08] <wheatthin> if your font isn't sharp enough, then I'd suggest lowering your resolution like they said. Then you won't have to require a high dpi rate, and thus your font won't look like crap.
[16:09] <wheatthin> Guardian1, mv -R -f
[16:09] <zykotick9> Guardian1: ahhh, mv overwrites by default?  what is the question exactly?
[16:10] <Guardian1> i tried -R -f and i get "
[16:10] <Guardian1> mv: ‘init.d’ and ‘/opt/ts3/init.d’ are the same file"
[16:10] <Guardian1> im updating ts3
[16:10] <Helsinkiii> hi. quick question.
[16:10] <Helsinkiii> i'd like to transfer files from one webserver (connected via ftp) and another (ssh) from window to window, but i'm getting a permission denied
[16:10] <Helsinkiii> how can i open up the ssh window as root?
[16:10] <wheatthin> I don't think the init files need to be updated, if it's already installed.
[16:11] <Guardian1> does it check that they are exactly the same?
[16:11] <zykotick9> Guardian1: sounds like your source and destination are the same...
[16:11] <wheatthin> lol the system package handler handles that
[16:11] <Guardian1> no it didnt update
[16:12] <Guardian1> the instructions from ts3 are to just copy over the new install files
[16:12] <wheatthin> ahh, so this isn't an ubuntu repo situation, thus making it not supported in this channel
[16:14] <Helsinkiii> i can understand why i wouldn't be able to o that, but also why is it that i can't drag and drop from my filesystem to my webserver via ssh windows?
[16:14] <pfifo> hello world
[16:15] <pfifo> Helsinkiii: administrating a webserver is usually done on the command line
[16:16] <Quantum1982> hello ?
[16:16] <Helsinkiii> pfifo, noooooo
[16:17] <Quantum1982> anyone speak english here ?
[16:17] <pfifo> Quantum1982: this is actually an english only channel
[16:17] <Helsinkiii> anyhow, thanks
[16:17] <Helsinkiii> pfifo, thx
[16:17] <gordonjcp> !anyone | Quantum1982
[16:17] <k1l_> Quantum1982: just ask the ubuntu support question with details
[16:18] <Quantum1982> gordonjcp:hello
[16:19] <ruinze> Hi guys, I wanted to ask if maybe someone can explain to me how DDOS works on attacking a website. I was assigned to report this topic next week and I only got minimal information through the internet.
[16:20] <llutz> !ot| ruinze
[16:20] <pfifo> ruinze: this channel is for ubuntu related support, you can find a better channel with !alis
[16:21] <ruinze> I'm really sorry if I posted on the wrong channel, I am using ubuntu for several years now, I thought I can get some idea here. Sorry.
[16:23] <streulma> I realy want to move to Ubuntu
[16:23] <streulma> and changfe from OSX
[16:23] <streulma> but my screen don't let do it :(
[16:24] <pfifo> have you tried no modeset?
[16:24] <Rory> streulma: Are you referring to the Retina display?
[16:24] <streulma> Rory: yes :(
[16:27] <Rory> ruinze: Try asking ##networking
[16:28] <ruinze> Rory: Thanks man, I really appreciate it :)
[16:29] <profligacy> Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
[16:29] <Rory> s/everyone/americans
[16:30] <aliendough> hi Rory
[16:30] <aliendough> from snoonet..
[16:30] <aliendough> i think :)
[16:30] <semitones> 'ello! Is there a way to test the I/O performance of a USB drive? Like measuring packetloss on a network?
[16:30] <Rory> semitones: You can use "dd" to write straight to the raw drive
[16:31] <lovecraft> you can
[16:31] <Rory> semitones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29#Benchmarking_drive_performance
[16:31] <semitones> Rory, and then read back and see if it's different? Is there a testing suite that would do that automatically?
[16:31] <Togusa> semitones, Rory: using 'dd', will trash your data, keep it mind
[16:31] <semitones> Togusa, thanks :) I know. It's called "data destroyer" after all :D
[16:31] <Rory> And yes aliendough I am also under this nick on Snoonet
[16:32] <aliendough> cool
[16:32] <pfifo> disk duplicator
[16:32] <aliendough> we spoke yesterday, Rory, about VPS
[16:32] <Togusa> lol
[16:32] <zykotick9> semitones: you might want to look into "sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda" but, results usually vary wildly...
[16:32] <aliendough> still haven't heard back from OVH, but was thinking about installing Ubuntu on an old Sony Vaio machine so I am hanging out in here
[16:33] <Rory> aliendough: Bear in mind this is the Ubuntu support channel and off-topic chitchat isn't allowed
[16:33] <aliendough> yes :)
[16:33] <semitones> zykotick9, the thing is, when I start Ubuntu from any USB drive I own, I see lots of I/O errors in the console, and I wonder if that's normal
[16:34] <zykotick9> semitones: running your OS from USB, is going to be slow.  as far as I/O erros - i doubt that's normal...
[16:35] <semitones> zykotick9, I've heard rumors that you can point grub2 to the .iso file on the hard disk, but there doesn't seem to be a clear way to do it
[16:35] <streulma> I hope you can solve my problem? Is changing resolution the only option on Retina?
[16:36] <pfifo> semitones: its not that hard, i use that method for my usb sticks and livecd testing, i think i have a link for it
[16:36] <zykotick9> semitones: i've heard of that as well - never done it myself however, so i got nothin'...
[16:37] <Guest6785> Hi, when I make a PC share its network via "shared to other computers" option in Network manager, is there a way that I can keep the host PC IP address static? preferably by CLI
[16:40] <semitones> Guest6785, yeah there is. try this: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux-basics-set-a-static-ip-on-ubuntu
[16:40] <pfifo> semitones: I cant find the page im looking for in google, it seems everyone and their brother has created 3 different tutorials for it now. No wonder your confused
[16:42] <tsnyph> has anyone tried linux tails? and if so opinions?
[16:42] <Guest6785> semitones, thank you. A small doubt, so if I am sharing the host interface is called eth1 right if it is from the LAN??
[16:42] <pfifo> semitones: I can guide you through it if you want, its pretty straight forward, the only hard part is getting your grub.cfg right
[16:43] <ActionPa1snip> tsnyph: what is linux tails?
[16:43] <ActionPa1snip> tsnyph: you mean this: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=tails ?
[16:43] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: debian based thing... i believe.
[16:44] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: clarifying
[16:44] <tsnyph> I saw a write up of it briefly in a pc magazine at the store today. Apparently it's all about security. uses the TOR network with the browser
[16:44] <k1l_> tsnyph: that is not ubuntu related support. please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic or in ##linux
[16:44] <ActionPa1snip> tsnyph: tor doesnt give secure web browsing
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> tsnyph: the distro is also nothing to do with Ubuntu, so is offtopic here
[16:45] <tsnyph> k1l_,  i was not asking for support, i was asking for opinions if anyone had tried it
[16:45] <k1l_> tsnyph: that is offtopic in here, too.
[16:45] <ActionPa1snip> tsnyph: this is support only, chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[16:46] <MajSlayer777> um, quick noob question, I recent got a dedicated server(most likely a rack unit) from SingleHOP, any way to tell if it has a video chipset in it?
[16:46] <k1l_> MajSlayer777: lspci will tell
[16:46] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: examine the output of 'sudo lswh' or 'lspci'
[16:46] <pfifo> lshw*
[16:46] <MajSlayer777> k thanks, what should i look for?
[16:47] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: graphics adapter model
[16:47] <pfifo> VGA adaptor
[16:47] <k1l_> MajSlayer777: output that mentions vga or graphic
[16:47] <pfifo> !enter | pfifo
[16:47] <MajSlayer777> okay cool beans, thanks
[16:49] <zerick> I'm installing Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo B570  but it doesn't boot after the restart on successful install,  I'm following this tutorial but with no success https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUbuntu11.10OnLenovoEFI/GPT/WLAN/Power/BIOS
[16:50] <pfifo> semitones: heres (part of) one of my grub.cfg, if you intend to use grub that was installed on your hard drive, and managed by ubuntu, then you need to do some magic to get ubuntu to put it in your grub.cfg, otherwise you can just tack it onto your grub.cfg http://fpaste.org/57528/56571121/
[16:50] <MajSlayer777>  VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 30)
[16:51] <zykotick9> pfifo: editing grub.cfg is kinda pointless... next kernel update = broken grub...
[16:51] <MajSlayer777> so i take it that it does have a video chipset?
[16:51] <pfifo> zykotick9: thats not relevant in this case, but thank you
[16:58] <Danato> wow i this place seems empty
[16:58] <Danato> hmm? lol im not drunk
[16:58] <Danato> *this place seems empty
[16:58] <k1l_> Danato: for chitchat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:58] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: its a graphics card, but it dosent have any stream processors or other cool features
[16:58] <compdoc> is there a channel for drunk ppl?
[16:58] <Danato> i know, i was looking for any activity kll_ maybe you can help me
[16:59] <pfifo> i used to frequent #homebrew
[16:59] <MajSlayer777> ahh but it should work for remote desktop from a home computer eh?
[16:59] <k1l_> Danato: just state the support question. no need to simulate activity
[16:59] <Danato> kll_: i installed kde a while ago, and now when i login with unity and logout i cant see the login screen
[16:59] <Danato> kll_: ok sorry for that
[17:00] <MajSlayer777> I'm mainly looking for a simpler way to work with my server vs ssh
[17:00] <Danato> k1l_: and sorry wrong name
[17:00] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: what do you want to do with it?
[17:00] <legrandin> hey guys. so im getting weird freezes every once in a while and i checked my syslog and i get tons of "whoopsie" messages near a freeze. is there any way to see what these mean?
[17:00] <AlanBell> MajSlayer777: you don't need a video chipset on the server to have a remote GUI
[17:01] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: im not sure, on my server i installed 'lubuntu-desktop' and connect to it like so 'ssh pfifo.net -XC "lxpanel"' which starts an instance of lxpanel on my local computer that actually runs apps on my server. Its really slow though and I use command line only when ever i can
[17:01] <MajSlayer777> well it would be nice to download things using a web-browers right to the folders i want vs apt-get and for other reasons
[17:01] <ActionPa1snip> pfifo: why a full DE< could just run a WM on it's own (lighter)
[17:01] <legrandin> trying to isolate the source of the freezing
[17:01] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: could use fat-rat adn its web interfae
[17:01] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: 'ssh majslayer.net -XC "chromium-browser"'
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: you can add things to the fat-rat queue and they will download for you as a service
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: or jdownloader, and so on
[17:02] <pfifo> ActionPa1snip: cause im really really laze and know 'lubuntu-desktop' will install 5 or 6 apps i want
[17:02] <AlanBell> MajSlayer777: in nautilus on your desktop just go to files-connect to server and then put in your ssh details, then the server file system can be managed locally on your desktop
[17:03] <Danato> I installed kde on ubuntu a while ago, now whenever i login unity and logout afterwards i dont see the login screen anymore. Any thoughts?
[17:03] <legrandin> anyone got a way that I can see what is causing my ubuntu to freeze?
[17:03] <AlanBell> MajSlayer777: assuming you are running Ubuntu on the desktop that is
[17:03] <MajSlayer777> okay sounds good, installing ubuntu 13.10 on one of my home computers
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> legrandin: try a memory test using memtest86+ from Grub
[17:03] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: lots of http/ftp downloaders with web interfaces
[17:03] <MajSlayer777> using windows software to connect to a linux server, just seems ahh wrong..
[17:03] <legrandin> i guessi i can try that
[17:04] <MajSlayer777> plus it will give me a "test bed" of sorts to play with options on my home computer, hopefully without trashing my dedicated server:)
[17:04] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: http://fatrat.dolezel.info/faq
[17:04] <MajSlayer777> tech support is $75 an hour..lol
[17:05] <ActionPa1snip> To run FatRat in headless mode, use the -n (--nogui) :)
[17:05] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: and it takes like 4 hours to restore from backup XD
[17:06] <Brandano> resolvconf is giving me quite the headache
[17:06] <Brandano> what generates /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/original?
[17:06] <pfifo> Brandano: dnsmasq
[17:07] <Brandano> and, is it actually included in the generated resolv.conf?
[17:07] <pfifo> Brandano: are you trying to get a persistent custom resolv.conf
[17:07] <Brandano> pfifo: do you know if there's a way to tell dnsmasq to look at the dhcp provided dns server also for domains falling in the local suffix?
[17:08] <Brandano> pfifo: 12.04 server, without network manager
[17:09] <MajSlayer777> 18 packages can be updated. 2 updates are security updates. <-- how to i install these?
[17:09] <Brandano> pfifo: or, failing that, how to remove the suffix from the local dnsmasq config
[17:09] <wheatthin> MajSlayer777, sudo apt-get safe-update
[17:09] <MajSlayer777> thanks
[17:09] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: they get installed by default along with the rest. Sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:10] <Brandano> wheatthin: does that only install security updates?
[17:10] <wheatthin> Brandano, no, it should safely update all the corresponding packages without doing a release update.
[17:11] <wheatthin> upgrade*
[17:11] <pfifo> Brandano: im not an expert with dnsmasq. But I do know, resolv.conf is a symlink, and if you replace the symlink with an actual file it will not autogenerate, leaving you with a system that resolves dns queries in the same manner as before ubuntu borked the whole dns setup
[17:11] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: you likely want dist-upgrade instead of just upgrade
[17:12] <wheatthin> pfifo, I was told to suggest safe-upgrade
[17:12] <wheatthin> safe-update
[17:12] <MajSlayer777> ops to late
[17:12] <MajSlayer777> oh well looks like it was just some compiler updates and one for ruby
[17:12] <Brandano> pfifo: Heh. I seem to gather the same spirit from my search results. Still, I'ld like to find the "proper ubuntu" way to fix this. I guess I'll broil a little longer before I bite the bullet and just force a static dns server.
[17:13] <Mech0z> Is the A88x chipset from AMD supported on linux (Ubuntu)?
[17:13] <pfifo> wheatthin: thats an Invalid Option according to apt-get
[17:13] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: should be, depends what else is on the board
[17:14] <Brandano> dist-upgrade ensures all dependencies are met when upgrading, and also forces the upgrade of things like the kernel and its header, that might require a reboot to have an effect
[17:14] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: use Amazn reviews to get an idea of workingness
[17:14] <Brandano> but generally just apt-get upgrade will work, save skipping some packages
[17:16] <Mech0z> ActionPa1snip I have a board now and I am trying to get it to stop flicering
[17:16] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: you'll find that message about every other login
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: what GPU are you using?
[17:16] <Mech0z> but I havent installed anything other than what it intalled by itself when I installed ubuntu
[17:16] <MajSlayer777> There is 1 zombie process. <-- whats that mean?
[17:16] <Mech0z> Onboard
[17:16] <Mech0z> A88x
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: yes, what is it?
[17:17] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: what is the onboard gpu on the A88x?
[17:17] <Mech0z> ActionPa1snip maybe its the onboard on the A4-4000 A series APU
[17:17] <Brandano> one process that died but still has an entry in the process table
[17:17] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: a child process whos parent no longer exists, so hence its patent cant call wait() in order to terminate it properly. It is stuck in limbo
[17:18] <Brandano> it can't be killed either
[17:18] <wheatthin> sorry was confusing apt-get with aptitude
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: do you have a display now?
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: in a terminal, run:  sudo lshw -C display     what is the product line? This is the GPU?
[17:19] <MajSlayer777> pfifo, so how do you fix it?
[17:19] <Mech0z> APU
[17:19] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: reboot
[17:19] <Mech0z> cpu with onboard gpu
[17:19] <MajSlayer777> aye
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: its still a graphical processing unit? yes?
[17:19] <Brandano> you don't fix it. You grind your teeth and ignore it
[17:19] <Mech0z> yes
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: so my GPU is right and did not need correctiojn
[17:19] <Brandano> they generally don't use resources
[17:19] <zerick> I'm installing Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo B570  but it doesn't boot after the restart on successful install,  I'm following this tutorial but with no success https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUbuntu11.10OnLenovoEFI/GPT/WLAN/Power/BIOS Help please :(
[17:19] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: run the command I gave, what is the output?
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: we just need the product line
[17:20] <invitado> gr
[17:20] <pfifo> Brandano: its using one of the 65535 process IDs which can be a problem if you have 60000 zombie processes
[17:20] <Mech0z> ActionPa1snip I am reformatting atm as it wouldt login afteR I tried installing drivers from AMDs site
[17:20] <invitado> ijjuyh
[17:20] <invitado> qiero sexo
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: if its an ATI based gpu thing, use the additional drivers app in the system settings
[17:21] <Brandano> pfifo: yep. Just read it on wikipedia
[17:21] <invitado> en español
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: spatry (youtube) has a howto guide for those things)
[17:21] <Brandano> "To remove zombies from a system, the SIGCHLD signal can be sent to the parent manually, using the kill command. If the parent process still refuses to reap the zombie, the next step would be to remove the parent process. When a process loses its parent, init becomes its new parent. Init periodically executes the wait system call to reap any zombies with init as parent."
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> !es | invitado
[17:21] <Mech0z> ActionPa1snip will try that when its done
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> Mech0z: thats all I know. I dont buy ATi/Radeon stuff.
[17:21] <Mech0z> kk
[17:21] <invitado> fuck
[17:22] <invitado> mechoz
[17:22] <Mech0z> invitado?
[17:22] <invitado> fuck
[17:22] <Brandano> ActionPa1snip: I am Italian, but I don't think he's looking for Ubuntu support
[17:22] <invitado> mechoz
[17:23] <invitado> now
[17:23] <invitado> mechos puto
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> !ops | invitado
[17:23] <Brandano> Though I am not sure joining a channel full of geeks is te best way to get someone to cyber with you in spanish
[17:24] <invitado> brandano fuck
[17:24] <Mech0z> invitado I have no idear what you trying to do
[17:24] <Brandano> it's a decent way to kget kickbanned though
[17:24] <MajSlayer777> noob question #500, it says i have mail, how do i read it?
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> Brandano: pretty much, thats why we have the !ops alarm :)
[17:24] <wheatthin> MajSlayer777, type mail in the console
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: run:    mail    in terminal, if that is what you mean
[17:24] <MajSlayer777> ty
[17:25] <BuntuFuntu> Happy Thanksgiving, Ubuntu Community(:
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> BuntuFuntu: doesnt mean anything over here :)
[17:25] <pfifo> bash: mail: command not found
[17:26] <BuntuFuntu> Pfft.. The only thing I know it means over here is I get foooooooooooooooooood XD
[17:26] <wheatthin> lol
[17:26]  * Brandano gets food regularly
[17:26] <BuntuFuntu> Are there any benefits to running Ubuntu off A SSD Drive or should I stay with an HDD Drive?
[17:27] <Brandano> it's faster, like any other OS running off an SSD
[17:27] <wheatthin> BuntuFuntu, depends on the io transfer of the ssd
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> BuntuFuntu: dont you normally get food?
[17:27] <Brandano> but you must play a few tricks to ensure the SSD will last
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: is it ok?
[17:27] <MajSlayer777> yeah its just errors from me.lol
[17:27] <MajSlayer777> using a second account i made
[17:27] <BuntuFuntu> ActionPalsnip: Yus, but not in the same quantity as thanksgiving XD
[17:27] <MajSlayer777> says not in sudo something something
[17:27] <Brandano> though I think that filesystem wear issues are exaggerated, at least for common usage scenarios
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> BuntuFuntu: the SSD will improve read and write times, RAM is used as disk cache and speeds things up more that way
[17:28] <Brandano> better have plenty of ram and avoid using swap
[17:28] <wheatthin> Brandano, but if you're running a server with a lot of traffic, then yeah it'll die soon
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> MajSlayer777: then use your first account to add the second account to the 'sudo' group
[17:28] <Brandano> indeed, servers are another matter
[17:29] <BuntuFuntu> Brandano, I'm guessing a 1GB Ram in a Lenovo S100 wouldn't be enough RAM? XD
[17:29] <MajSlayer777> how do i do that ActionPa1snip?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> BuntuFuntu. it's passable
[17:29] <Brandano> BUT there's exceptions. If you have static data that has to be read frequently but modified occasionally, SSD's are better
[17:30] <pfifo> how do i file or clear the reports the apport has collected
[17:30] <Brandano> BuntuFuntu: if your drive dies after 3 years of use it won't be a big issue. also, SSD's tend to die in reasonably benign ways
[17:30] <Brandano> but while you are at it you can increase the ram size as well
[17:31] <zerick> I'm installing Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo B570  but it doesn't boot after the restart on successful install,  I'm following this tutorial but with no success https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallUbuntu11.10OnLenovoEFI/GPT/WLAN/Power/BIOS Help please :(
[17:31] <Brandano> zerick: what error?
[17:31] <BuntuFuntu> Doesn't boot into the OS at all?
[17:32] <zerick> Brandano, doesn't boot, no grub display, nothing
[17:32]  * Brandano had his share of broken grub installs
[17:32] <Brandano> the proper way to fix would be to boot from usb, mount a chroot on the HDD, install and configure grub2, reboot
[17:33] <Brandano> But some time ago I found a liveimage purposedly made to fix boot loader issues. Let me dig
[17:33] <invitado> myrtti
[17:33] <Myrtti> invitado: stop.
[17:33] <invitado> wat
[17:34] <MajSlayer777> hmm cool i didn't have to reboot and the zombie message is gone when i SSH back in:)
[17:34] <invitado> myrtti eggs
[17:34] <Myrtti> invitado: do you have a Ubuntu question or a problem you need help with, in English?
[17:34] <zerick> Myrtti, just kick him
[17:34] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: probably the zombie was linked to your session
[17:34] <MajSlayer777> aye Brandano
[17:34] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: also, zombies might just be waiting for their parent
[17:35] <MajSlayer777> yeah got Ubuntu Unleased to read..lol
[17:35] <Brandano> while the parent is busy with something else
[17:35] <MajSlayer777> 900 pages, fun fun
[17:35] <BuntuFuntu> I cant wait till 14.04 :D
[17:35] <gome> hello
[17:35] <Danato> why does ubuntu keeps asking me to enter my password to unlock keyring at startup? some stuff are wrong with my login
[17:35] <DeepBlue> can i run arch in terminal 2 no my architeture ?
[17:36] <Brandano> zerick: have a look at http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[17:36] <MajSlayer777> I couldn't even find a 13.10 book on amazon
[17:36] <gome> #aircrack-ng
[17:36] <MajSlayer777> much less a apache book that was up to date(sadly)
[17:37] <MajSlayer777> oh well irc and google is great anyhow, but i do like a well written book
[17:37] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: people in #apache are generally helpful. But remember that fajita is a bot
[17:37] <MajSlayer777> eh so far they must hate me.lol
[17:37] <zimeng> Hello,guys,which do you lot prefer, kde or gnome? Any advice?
[17:37] <kriskropd> zimeng: i prefer dwm
[17:37] <zimeng> Dwm?
[17:38]  * Brandano currently uses cinnamon, but has trouble with multiple monitors
[17:38] <kriskropd> from suckless
[17:38] <kriskropd> its in the ubuntu repos
[17:38] <MajSlayer777> every question ask seems to go off into outer space:)
[17:38] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: the Apache docs are quite exaustive too
[17:38] <MajSlayer777> (most likely becuase i'm a 7 day noob) lol
[17:38] <MajSlayer777> aye
[17:38] <kriskropd> MajSlayer777: you should help the space pioneering programs :)
[17:38] <JonathanTN84> Hi All - ive got an interesting issue.  I just installed Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 - and root password doesnt work.  I tried my account login password and blank.  Nothing works.  Any thoughts anyone?
[17:38] <k1l> zimeng: just try both and see what is best for you. making a poll will not help you in that decision
[17:38] <MajSlayer777> that's what i've been using
[17:39] <MajSlayer777> yes i would be good at that kriskropd
[17:39] <Myrtti> JonathanTN84: where are you trying to log in as root? there is no root password.
[17:39] <Brandano> MajSlayer777: once you understand the debian way everything falls into place
[17:39] <JonathanTN84> trying to su in terminal
[17:39] <Myrtti> JonathanTN84: use sudo.
[17:39] <MajSlayer777> i'm truly an expert and irc messages that seem to go nowhere.lol
[17:39] <kriskropd> !root
[17:39] <JonathanTN84> ah - gotcha.  let me try that.  sorry if that was dumb - usually a centos kinda fella.
[17:39] <MajSlayer777> well it's far better than windows server 2012 already...
[17:39] <bazhang> !ot | MajSlayer777
[17:39] <zimeng> I currently use gnome,but a lot of errors happened
[17:39] <fault3r> ubottu: hi
[17:39] <fault3r> :D
[17:40] <JonathanTN84> can one assign a root password?
[17:40] <mika__> where i could get real windows 7 pro dvd? I have serial, but not that dvd :/ Or can you redirect to be somewhere else? :)
[17:40] <BuntuFuntu> Mika..
[17:40] <kriskropd> fault3r: your conversation will leave you dissapointed, I'm afraid
[17:40] <k1l> JonathanTN84: you can but its not supported in here
[17:40] <Brandano> JonathanTN84: if you really want the full length of rope you can use sudo -s
[17:40] <BuntuFuntu> Message me, I know Digital River Provides the isos.
[17:40] <fault3r> kriskropd: :D I Knoooow
[17:40] <k1l> mika__: ask the windows support. that is not a ubuntu issue
[17:40] <JonathanTN84> Stupid question  - why would they not password Root?
[17:40] <BuntuFuntu> BUt messaging the people in the Windows chat would be best.
[17:41] <k1l> !root | JonathanTN84
[17:41] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: you're still asking the wrong question - there is NO root
[17:41] <MajSlayer777> !guidelines
[17:41] <BuntuFuntu> This channel is for Ubuntu :P
[17:41] <Brandano> JonathanTN84: because root is dangerous and he should not be allowed on my system
[17:41] <semitones> hey -- i'm trying to follow this guide, but when I booted up, it said it couldn't find the iso -- it needed to load the kernel first -- or something: http://www.wikihow.com/Boot-an-Ubuntu-ISO-from-Your-Hard-Drive
[17:41] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: access to root is completely disabled in Ubuntu
[17:41] <Ilmen> Which size would you recommend for a partition for Ubuntu 13.10 + Programs?
[17:41] <JonathanTN84> Ahh....
[17:41] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: it's a unique approach, so understandably confusing to most
[17:41] <JonathanTN84> I do appreciate the information.
[17:42] <JonathanTN84> Absolutely, but I appreciate the answers.  Always use root to elevate processes and global installations.  =0
[17:42] <semitones> I think it's because it's in the home partition, not the root partition...
[17:42] <pfifo> my ISP forces me to use root
[17:42] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: if you want a rooted shell, your best bet is to 'su -'
[17:42] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: oh, no wiat
[17:43] <Brandano> kriskropd: does that even work?
[17:43] <JonathanTN84> So since no root account is available.
[17:43] <k1l> kriskropd: JonathanTN84 no. use sudo -i
[17:43] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: I'm sorry, i forgotthat doesnt work either in Ubuntu XD
[17:43] <kriskropd> JonathanTN84: take k1l suggestion
[17:43] <semitones> oh, so I don't use /home in the path, since grub sees it as a /?
[17:43] <pfifo> kriskropd: su = stop using... your thinking 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i' both of which are NOT supported anymore then setting the root password
[17:44] <JonathanTN84> Would one assume first account created is in the "root" group ?  Or is that non existent as well?
[17:44] <semitones> pfifo, why shouldn't you do sudo su? What do you do if you want to use the terminal as root for a little while?
[17:44] <Brandano> JonathanTN84: the first account created is in the sudoers
[17:45] <pfifo> semitones: you dont, you type sudo in front of each and every command you want to grant privledges to
[17:45] <JonathanTN84> Roger that - it all makes more sense.
[17:45] <k1l> JonathanTN84: i really recommend you looking into https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[17:45] <JonathanTN84> I certainly will be.  Already pulled it up
[17:45] <kriskropd> semitones: like he said above too, you can add some arguments to sudo to keep your shell as root
[17:46] <Spr1ng> I'm getting "Read error at byte 0 (Invalid argument). Retrying." when running wget with stdout, anybody know why?
[17:46] <JonathanTN84> thanks for the doc k
[17:46] <Ilmen> Is 30GB enough for Ubuntu + programs (without user files), or would you recommend more?
[17:46] <kriskropd> Spr1ng: idk anything about wget, if you use "curl -I $url" does it tell you better information?
[17:46] <Brandano> JonathanTN84: you can also leave that shell open while someone walks by and types some snippet like rm -rf ...
[17:47] <pfifo> Ilmen: it is more then the minimum recommend amount
[17:47] <kriskropd> Ilmen: do you plan on installing loads of things? 30GB will suffice if you don't intend to install much on top of the base system and only store about 20GB of personal files
[17:47] <JonathanTN84> Ya brandon, would you like me to setup SSH for ya so you can logon ?
[17:47] <JonathanTN84> Numb nuts.
[17:47] <ice799> Hi. I remember at some point there was a way to provide values that would be autofilled in for you when doing an apt-get install so that you could avoid the curses/commandline prompt. Anyone have any idea where that is documented? I did this one time a long time ago and now I can't remember how it works.
[17:47] <Ilmen> kriskropd: I'm planning to store personal files on another partition
[17:48] <Brandano> No, i mean, sudo -s is not supported for a reason. It's like giving someone the keys to the guns cabinet
[17:48] <zykotick9> JonathanTN84: another note, DON'T use sudo with GUI apps!  use gksudo instead.  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for further details.
[17:48] <kriskropd> ice799: erm, are you talking about 'man apt-get' ?
[17:49] <kriskropd> ice799: sorry, maybe rephrase the question
[17:49] <ice799> lol
[17:49] <ice799> no
[17:49] <semitones> If I'm following this guide, but there's not enough room in /boot/gmrl for an .iso, can I create a symlink to the iso there?
[17:49] <ice799> i'm talking about debconf-set-selections kriskropd, but thanks for trying
[17:50] <ice799> you can use that to insert default values into the debconf database to avoid getting prompted during apt-get installs.
[17:50] <Brandano> On the other hand better finding it here where someone can rise the objection that it's a silly thing to do than somewhere on the web without any form of rebuttal
[17:51] <kongthap> i mount a windows partition to /mnt/windows and want to create a shortcut to the desktop, i use nautilus to right click at /mnt/windows but the create link is not clickable, what should i do????
[17:51] <kriskropd> ice799: what are you being prompted for other than auto supplying "yes" - I'm just curious, idk if I can help you at all
[17:51] <fault3r> hey all
[17:52] <Brandano> kongthap: I think CTRL+SHIFT+drag&drop will create a symlink. BUT. the link will break when th e partition is unmounted
[17:52] <ice799> kriskropd: when you install mysql-server you are asked to provide a default password
[17:52] <kriskropd> ice799: oooh I knwo what you mean now !
[17:52] <kriskropd> know*
[17:52] <Brandano> semitones: what guide?
[17:53] <semitones> this one -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[17:54] <kongthap> Brandano, it's working for me thanks, i mount using fstab, so it's should be fine
[17:54] <semitones> /sda6 corresponds to "(hd0,5)" ?
[17:55] <Brandano> kongthap: the create link option is greyed out because you can't write there. It should work from the folder where you want the link to be created
[17:55] <Brandano> semitones: it may, or not. The only way to be sure is to set it in fstab
[17:55] <Brandano> eepp, sorry, probably wrong
[17:56] <Brandano> semitones: a symlink should work, since it is at the filesystem level, though I'd rather shuffle the partitions manually in a way as to have enough space.
[17:57] <semitones> yeah, good point. Well I tried doing it the other way (in the downloads folder) -- i just hope i got the path right and everything
[17:57] <H1FuelCell> hey folks
[17:58] <H1FuelCell> I set the following in my hosts file: reddit.com    127.0.0.1
[17:58] <kriskropd> ice799: i found some pre-answering templates that you can use, but it seems to expect you to know all the options before hand (reference http://www.davidpashley.com/2008/03/27/java-license/ and https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/bittner-195120/howto-automate-interactive-debian-package-installations-debconf-preseeding-2879/)
[17:58] <H1FuelCell> however I can still open the site in chrome
[17:58] <kriskropd> ice799: I kind of doubt that is what you were looking for though :x
[17:58] <H1FuelCell> why is that?
[17:59] <kriskropd> H1FuelCell: you might need to restart your networking service first
[18:00] <pfifo> trying deperatly to quit reddit?
[18:00] <Brandano> or flush the dns cache
[18:00] <Brandano> naturally you can still use google translate to get a translated version of reddit
[18:01] <Brandano> or many other such workarounds
[18:01] <H1FuelCell> yes pfifo
[18:01] <H1FuelCell> I just ran sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart kriskropd but it still can be opened
[18:02] <H1FuelCell> haha Brandano, that's a funny idea for sure
[18:02] <Spr1ng> kriskropd: im not sure which info im looking for with that curl command, it reveals useful info but i dont know what to look for specifically
[18:02] <Brandano> hitsujiTMO: the current sessions will keep up until they are left free
[18:02] <pfifo> H1FuelCell: perhaps reddit.com is hosted on your local machine?
[18:02] <Brandano> oops, sorry, wrong autocomplete
[18:02] <H1FuelCell> do you mean restart my browser with "current sessions", brandano?
[18:02] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[18:03] <Brandano> there's also the browser cache
[18:03] <H1FuelCell> browsers have a dns cache?
[18:03] <H1FuelCell> holy shiz: http://superuser.com/questions/203674/how-to-clear-flush-the-dns-cache-in-google-chrome
[18:03] <pfifo> H1FuelCell: chromium and firefox arent 'supposed' to from what ive seen
[18:03] <H1FuelCell> so *that's* how the damn thing is so resilient
[18:03] <H1FuelCell> lemme try that out
[18:04] <Brandano> you know that this won't delete reddit from the internet, right?
[18:04]  * Brandano bets there's a flatmate that shouldn't see something
[18:04] <H1FuelCell> lol not that Brandano
[18:04] <Brandano> or perhaps an attempt at a practical joke
[18:05] <H1FuelCell> but I'm an incredibly, incredibly intelligent procrastinator
[18:05] <pfifo> or routing reddit through the localmachine to gater personal info
[18:05] <H1FuelCell> that is, I pour all my intelligence into procrastinating
[18:05] <Brandano> You should see into setting some firewall rules to enable reddit quotas
[18:05] <Breast> hi
[18:06] <H1FuelCell> argh, just delete the cache, restarted networking, and reddit still loads :*(
[18:06] <H1FuelCell> it's like the universe does not want me to succeed
[18:06] <H1FuelCell> firewall rules
[18:06] <H1FuelCell> okay, googling
[18:06] <Brandano> H1FuelCell: nslookup reddit.com?
[18:07] <H1FuelCell> command ouput: 127.0.0.1, but also, "Non authoritative answer: 125.56.222.19"
[18:07] <Brandano> H1FuelCell: that sort of firewall rules are very, VERY complex to set up. well, they are for me.
[18:07] <H1FuelCell> I'm willing to try anything, go to any length
[18:07] <Brandano> H1FuelCell: then it's still resolving it
[18:07] <H1FuelCell> I have a list of sites to block
[18:07] <pfifo> or just drop app packets from reddit
[18:07] <pfifo> app/all
[18:07] <arpx> guys im trying to install ubuntu on macbook pro 8,2
[18:08] <H1FuelCell> why might it be resolving Brandano
[18:08] <arpx> after fasten your seatbelts the screen goes black
[18:08] <Brandano> pfifo: where's the fun in that, though? it would be nicer to do packet mangling with a proxy server so that the css is altered to make the content of the page fade over time
[18:09] <H1FuelCell> haha
[18:09] <H1FuelCell> hahaha
[18:09] <Ilmen> arpx: what happen if you try increasing brightness?
[18:09] <Brandano> there was something using a pogo plug that flipped all of a page's images upside-down
[18:09] <arpx> lol Ilmen its trying to boot the kernel
[18:09] <H1FuelCell> that's some frustrated adviceanimal browsing
[18:10] <arpx> how would u increase brightness on a bricked usb??
[18:10] <Ilmen> hehe sorry :)
[18:10] <arpx> lol
[18:10] <arpx> but im DESPERATE
[18:10] <Brandano> arpx: does it astill boot from a live usb?
[18:11] <H1FuelCell> unbelievable - I got into the router settings, and set reddit.com to a "blocked site", and I can still browse it
[18:11] <H1FuelCell> is reddit owned by the illuminati
[18:11] <arpx> it boots fine
[18:11] <Spr1ng> yes
[18:11] <Brandano> H1FuelCell: are you REALLY sure you are not hosting the reddit server?
[18:11] <arpx> it just wont show ubuntu splash screen or even the desktop
[18:11] <arpx> i think its  this amd card, how do i disable it??
[18:12] <Brandano> arpx: then you can at least check if ther's bootlogs with errors, and in case there aren't fix the boot manager
[18:12] <H1FuelCell> absolutely Brandano, at least if they ran on my shitty PC that site wouldn't go down as much
[18:12] <arpx> where is the bootlog?
[18:12] <arpx> i know i sound stupid now!!
[18:12] <Brandano> /var/logs seems a likely place
[18:13] <arpx> ok lemme check
[18:13] <pfifo> arpx: /var/log/dmsg
[18:13] <fault3r> is IRC have a channel for fun?
[18:13] <H1FuelCell> yeeaaaah! I found the little hidden radio button that said "keyword blocking always"
[18:13] <pfifo> fault3r: #defocus
[18:13] <H1FuelCell> fault3r: defocus
[18:13] <fault3r> pfifo: thanks
[18:13] <fault3r> H1FuelCell: merci
[18:14] <H1FuelCell> okay, reddit blocked from my router now - however, I know I that just like an alcoholic, when the craving happens, I will open the router page, delete reddit from blocked sites, and access it again
[18:14] <arpx> pfiflo: there is no file or dir dmsg
[18:15] <H1FuelCell> I want something more... nuclear
[18:15] <pfifo> arpx: you never got far enough into the boot process to write it to a file then
[18:15] <pfifo> H1FuelCell: unplug your ethernet cable from your router
[18:16] <arpx> uh... yeah
[18:16] <H1FuelCell> ya know pfifo, if I wasn't a web developer I'd have two different computers for work and #othershit
[18:16] <arpx> but i am convinced it is this stupid amd chip!!! does anyone know how to disable it
[18:16] <Brandano_> Sorry guys, ignore my ghost. Actually, I'll kick it
[18:16] <H1FuelCell> it's definitely a great option for most people, but in my line of work I just can't go fully unplugged
[18:17]  * pfifo feedss Brandano's ghost some fresh souls
[18:18] <GZA-Genius> if i have hardware drivers for (up too) Linux kernel 3.8.4, what version of Ubuntu's kernel is that. Because isn't the regular Linux kernel, and kernels maintained by and for Ubuntu and revised differently correct?
[18:18] <pfifo> GZA-Genius: the ubuntu kernel still says 3.8.4 but tacks on -ubuntu5 or such
[18:19] <Laurenceb> hi, i dont see the hypernate option, does this mean it is not supported?
[18:19] <Brandano> anyway, just dropped back in to give my thanks for the assistance and say goodbye, really. Time to head home.
[18:19] <arpx> anyway, is there anything im missing?
[18:20] <H1FuelCell> I should just give the password for the router settings to my mate
[18:20] <BuntuFuntu> Man, Shopping during Black Fridays going to be a beotch.
[18:20] <BuntuFuntu> ._.
[18:21] <GZA-Genius> pfifo: OK thanks, so my current system 12.04.3 running 3.8.0-34-generic, is Linux kernel 3.8.0 with patches maintained by Ubuntu specifically for that OS
[18:21] <bazhang> !ot | H1FuelCell BuntuFuntu
[18:21] <H1FuelCell> ubottu thanks for the friendly reminder
[18:21] <H1FuelCell> I see, sorry ubottu, I meant to talk to bazhang
[18:22] <H1FuelCell> bazhang, do you have any suggestions to help me block websites on my Ubuntu system?
[18:22] <H1FuelCell> considering the constraints I mentioned above
[18:23] <bazhang> !info dansguardian | H1FuelCell
[18:23] <glitsj16> Laurenceb: if you mean the hibernate option, it isn't enabled by default --> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html to test if your machine is capable of it and how to re-enable
[18:24] <Laurenceb> ok thanks
[18:26] <H1FuelCell> bazhang, "How to remove DansGuardian from your computer" "You can't. It is not installed on your computer. It is installed at your ISP or your firewall server at your company or school network. If DansGuardian has appeared and you don't know how to get rid of it then you are looking in the wrong place! You need to speak to your ISP or network manager."
[18:26] <H1FuelCell> does not look like I can put it on my desktop Ubuntu bazhang :(
[18:27] <H1FuelCell> never mind http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008
[18:27] <vm95> hey there am getting "503 OUT OF DISK SPACE" error while installing any software using apt-get can anyone please help me fix this
[18:27] <Photonios> That usually means your hard disk is full...
[18:28] <Photonios> Remove some files from your hard disk, or buy an extra one
[18:28] <Sh1G3rU> vm95, how much spase did you give to your root partition ?
[18:28] <Sh1G3rU> space*
[18:28] <Photonios> That might be the case as well..
[18:28] <vm95> but my hard disk still has 20 GB left
[18:29] <Photonios> Your hard disk might have empty space, but your root partition might be full..
[18:29] <Sh1G3rU> if you can access a shell run df -ha
[18:29] <vm95> I dual boot my laptop and have given 100GB to ubuntu out of which 20GB is left
[18:29] <Photonios> @vm95, run what Sh1G3ru said, that should display a list of partitions
[18:30] <vm95> yes it displayed a list of partitions now what am i to interpret from it?
[18:30] <Photonios> Could you copy&paste the output?
[18:30] <Photonios> To here..
[18:30] <Sh1G3rU> paste it to pastebin vm95
[18:30] <Photonios> pastebin.com
[18:30] <Sh1G3rU> !paste
[18:31] <vm95> ok wait a min
[18:31] <H1FuelCell> wow, paste.ubuntu.com, finally a general purpose paste I'd love to use
[18:31] <H1FuelCell> when I restart my computer, I see a message "disk for /tmp has not been mounted yet, wait for it to mount or press M to skip mounting" (I'm paraphrasing)
[18:32] <H1FuelCell> it shows up under the ubuntu logo and four-dots-progressbar, and the system them proceeds to load
[18:32] <vm95> here it is http://pastebin.com/usEMYzHa
[18:32] <H1FuelCell> what might be the problem?
[18:32] <Sh1G3rU> vm95,  did you partition your hdd manually??
[18:32] <Photonios> I guess /tmp is not cleaned up
[18:33] <vm95> yes i partitioned it manually
[18:33] <Photonios> @H1, which distro and which version?
[18:33] <H1FuelCell> Ubuntu 12.04
[18:33] <BluesKaj> vm95. have you  sudo apt-getrun autoclean lately?
[18:33] <Photonios> mount -o remount, rw /tmp
[18:33] <Sh1G3rU> vm95,  you should let the ubuntu installer partition it for you because you have done a mess
[18:33] <Photonios> try that H1
[18:33] <BluesKaj> oops sudo-apt-get autoclean
[18:34] <vm95> okk i'll try that
[18:34] <fault3r> hi all
[18:34] <BluesKaj> still not correct :)P
[18:34] <geodberyl> hi :)
[18:34] <Photonios> hi
[18:34]  * BluesKaj looks for his glasses
[18:34] <fault3r> how can i see Persian character in ubuntu terminal?
[18:34] <fault3r> how can i see Persian characters in ubuntu terminal?
[18:35] <vm95> ok am done with it
[18:35] <fault3r> it's like this > سلام
[18:35] <BluesKaj> vm95. , sudo apt-get autoclean is the correct command , but I'm sure you know that
[18:36] <vm95> yeah i used the correct command and got some output that 3 packages were deleted now
[18:36] <Photonios> @fault3r, http://persian.nmelrc.org/persianword/kb.htm#Linux
[18:36] <Sh1G3rU> fault3r,  you have to change your locale /usr/lib/locale
[18:36] <Sh1G3rU> fault3r,  man locale
[18:36] <BluesKaj> ok try sudo apt-get autoremove , as well , vm95
[18:36] <vm95> ok
[18:36] <fault3r> Sh1G3rU: change to?
[18:37] <H1FuelCell> Photonios: "mount: /tmp not mounted or bad option"
[18:37] <vm95> it shows 0 to remove
[18:37] <Sh1G3rU> fault3r,  it stores formats for language currency etc
[18:37] <jonny5alive> i just made 2 ubuntu usb installs and when i boot one i get 'waiting for network' and then booting without network. My wireless button stays disabled and when i press it nothing happens
[18:37] <jonny5alive> how can i enable my network?
[18:38] <fault3r> Sh1G3rU: it's UTF-8
[18:38] <jonny5alive> ps - the other one works fine
[18:38] <Photonios> @H1, try rebooting and and not skipping the mount
[18:38] <fault3r> Sh1G3rU: but i cant see farsi in terminal...
[18:38] <vm95> BluesKaj: if disk space is the problem then why does it work when i download the packages manually and install them using synaptics package manager
[18:38] <fault3r> Sh1G3rU: do i should to install Persian font?
[18:38] <H1FuelCell> I never skip Photonios
[18:39] <jonny5alive> the 'state' just shows 'inactive' in network tools
[18:39] <H1FuelCell> I just let it take its time
[18:39] <Sh1G3rU> fault3r,  it should be installed but if not you have to install them manually with apt-get
[18:40] <jonny5alive> I get this same issue even hardwired, it does not seem to recognize the cat5
[18:40] <fault3r> Sh1G3rU: then what can i do?
[18:40] <Photonios> @H1, try running fsck in manual recovery
[18:40] <vm95> Sh1G3rU: any help?
[18:40] <Photonios> I believe there's a check partition option
[18:41] <Sh1G3rU> vm95, what happened
[18:41] <BluesKaj> vm95. dpkg is the actual app that instals packages , both synaptic and apt-get are apps that use dpkg , one is a gui and apt-get runs in the terminal
[18:41] <Photonios> Try running fsck -AR -y @h1
[18:41] <vm95> Blueskaj: ok so what should i do now?
[18:42] <H1FuelCell> "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1"
[18:42] <H1FuelCell> I *have* to run it out of safe mode do I?
[18:42] <Photonios> I guess so..
[18:43] <lucido> Hi, I started getting segfults today:
[18:43] <lucido> [   54.355614] apport-gtk[2599]: segfault at 7fd725f33832 ip 00007fd12c1ec9d6 sp 00007fd12694c9b0 error 6 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fd12c18c000+135000]
[18:43] <vm95> Blueskaj: and yes i cant install packages directly from synaptics as well i get the same error from there as well and have to download the packages manually and then install them from synaptics
[18:43] <H1FuelCell> hmm, which means reboot... okay I'll look into later Photonios, can't reboot at the moment
[18:43] <lucido> I reinstall libapt library but that didint help
[18:43] <H1FuelCell> thanks for the help...
[18:43] <Photonios> @H1, what's preventing you from rebooting?
[18:44] <lucido> vm95, what's going on?
[18:44] <RayS> at my company is using ubuntu 12.10 for its webservers, they are fairly busy. (nginx->fpm-fpm (5.4)) ever so often we get cpu spikes that look like they have to do with the migraion/x process. Both nginx and fpm are set to use epoll.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/3cmerrmxdc1lrmn/Screenshot%202013-11-28%2013.42.03.png
[18:44] <vm95> lucido: I get "503 OUT OF DISK SPACE" error when i run apt-get install commands
[18:44] <H1FuelCell> I have probably a couple dozen tabs open right now Photonios
[18:44] <BluesKaj> vm95. I don't know
[18:44] <jonny5alive> ps - i took a look at /etc/network/interfaces and all the defaults appear normal
[18:44] <RayS> its basically starving the resources on the box causing pages to load slowly or not at all during that time
[18:44] <H1FuelCell> and lots of other programs
[18:44] <AndrewSPX> hi
[18:45] <jonny5alive> yet i cannot enable wireless or get the os to recognize my cat5 is plugged in
[18:45] <Sh1G3rU> vm95,  do you have any data on your ubuntu install? your own data?
[18:45] <AndrewSPX> guys..
[18:45] <k1l> vm95: can you pastebin a "df -h" ?
[18:45] <AndrewSPX> i have 2 questions
[18:45] <Mississauga> I am about to get into ubuntu, is the 12.04 the way to go? either AMD or Intel CPUs have problems with ubuntu?
[18:45] <vm95> Sh1G3rU: i dint get what data u mean?
[18:45] <AndrewSPX> or mabe i say problems
[18:45] <k1l> !details | AndrewSPX
[18:46] <AndrewSPX> sure
[18:46] <Sh1G3rU> vm95,  you dont have any partitions you have to do the install all over again , and delete your actual partitions , all of them, and let ubuntu installer do the partitionin
[18:46] <vm95> k1l: here it is http://pastebin.com/usEMYzHa
[18:46] <AndrewSPX> 1. i don't understand why my dash is no working when i change the enviroment with "ubuntu" and i just need to stay on "ubuntu 2D"
[18:46] <Mech0z> with 2 different harddrives I get an "grub-install /dev/sda5' failed. This is a fatal error" whenever I try installing ubuntu from a USB drive, tried redoing the USB install, but no help
[18:47] <AndrewSPX> 2. i don't find a good driver for my video chipset ATI radeon
[18:47] <k1l> vm95: and now please "df -ih" (sorry missed the i for inodes)
[18:47] <AndrewSPX> as far i google for it .. ATI have some issues
[18:48] <AndrewSPX> ubuntu no longer supports this or. something
[18:48] <jonny5alive> ubottu: When i boot it 12.04 LTS it tells me waiting for network and then booting without it, i checked /etc/network/interfaces and everything appears correct, yet I cannot enable my wireless (laptop) or get the OS to recognize that cat5 is plugged in. I have the same install (to a 2nd usb key) in this desktop right now as we speak which works fine
[18:48] <jonny5alive> Bummer. :)
[18:48] <k1l> AndrewSPX: there is no ubuntu 2d anymore. make sure the videocard can use 3d with the right driver
[18:48] <Sh1G3rU> vm95,  try this : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-desktop-latest
[18:49] <AndrewSPX> k1l whan you loging on your account you have the posibility to change your enviroment to gnome (if is installed) or ubuntu 2d
[18:49] <vm95> k1l: output for df -ih http://pastebin.com/SW8XHPrG
[18:49] <k1l> AndrewSPX: which ubuntu version are you talking about?
[18:49] <AndrewSPX> well.. i don't know why that dash in "ubuntu" enviroment is no more working
[18:49] <AndrewSPX> 12.04
[18:50] <GZA-AFK> AndrewSPX: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:50] <Mech0z> is it possible to run ubuntu "forever" on a tryubuntu usb stick?
[18:50] <Mech0z> or are certain settings not saved
[18:50] <k1l> vm95: ok. its not a full harddisk or full inodes issue. when you are on a live cd that can make troubles when "installing" software
[18:50] <vm95> Sh1G3rU: ok thanx
[18:51] <AndrewSPX> i don't think my video driver is there.. i have an old laptop for testing this os's
[18:51] <vm95> k1l: ok so what should i do now?
[18:51] <AndrewSPX> its a toshiba satellite
[18:51] <GZA-AFK> AndrewSPX: what is the exact chipset/model
[18:52] <AndrewSPX> and i'm not home right now to give you the exact name of the video card name but is something with RS
[18:52] <k1l> vm95: can you give the exact output of what you are installing and what the errors are (in a pastebin)?
[18:52] <irc-5225225> I broke apt-get, just typing apt-get update gives a segfault error. Obviously, I can't reinstall apt-get, so is there any way to fix it? I was attempting to add a PPA at the time, and synaptic closed.
[18:52] <Mississauga> do AMD FX series CPUs have compatibility problems with ubuntu? since things are designed with Intel in mind
[18:53] <irc-5225225> Mississauga: I'm running an FX-4300, and I haven't noticed any problems
[18:53] <AndrewSPX> anyway.. i installed some driver and now is no more unknown video .. is seems to work fine.. but i don't know if that is compatible.. anyway
[18:53] <irc-5225225> A cpu should run no matter what os it's running.
[18:53] <AndrewSPX> my prior thought is abut that dash
[18:54] <pfifo> irc-5225225: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:54] <AndrewSPX> because i don't know the difference between that ubuntu enviroment and ubuntu 2d
[18:54] <lucido> halp, I'm getting segfaults in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0
[18:54] <vm95> k1l: http://pastebin.com/htkgRW0e
[18:54] <AndrewSPX> coz of this .. i installed gnome env
[18:54] <GZA-AFK> AndrewSPX: what do u mean you dont know the diff?
[18:55] <AndrewSPX> i didn't see any change
[18:55] <GZA-AFK> AndrewSPX: what is your question, i am asking ;)
[18:55] <irc-5225225> pfifo: That explains it. It's effectively empty, with one entry that has random spaces in it.
[18:56] <pfifo> irc-5225225: might want to run a fsck before anything else, sounds like som sort of filesystem error started it
[18:56] <irc-5225225> pfifo: Filesystem error? Don't know why that would be the case, where it was the editor that crashed.
[18:57] <pfifo> lucido: can you give details about what your doing, and pastebin the error messages
[18:57] <a2cypher> Hey folks.  I  downloaded and cross-compiled perl for an embedded system that I am working on.   When I did the install, I guess something went wrong and it installed into my target rootfs, but also by mistake into the build system, overwriting perl with a non-working version.
[18:58] <a2cypher> I tried  apt-get --reinstall install perl, but it fails since  /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure  is a perl script.
[18:58] <a2cypher> maybe I just need to build perl manually again for my system, then install it
[18:58] <vm95> k1l: ?
[18:58] <lucido> pfifo, basicall just any packag eoperation fails with this: [  110.909301] apt-cache[2877]: segfault at 7fb7b659f418 ip 00007fb4ba5a5755 sp 00007fff86f55ce8 error 4 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7fb4ba515000+135000]
[18:58] <pfifo> a2cypher: you can debootstrap from a livecd to correct that
[18:59] <lucido> pfifo, I reinstalled libapt-pkg4.12 with dpkg and rebooted but it didn't help
[18:59] <a2cypher> maybe I'll first try installing perl again over top the broken one, then using apt-get to replace perl with the distribution version
[18:59] <a2cypher> that way I dont have to reboot
[19:00] <k1l> vm95: "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install -f"
[19:01] <pfifo> lucido: what caused this to start happening?
[19:02] <coventry> Is there a way to configure Remote Desktop or similar to work despite the shared machine being behind a NAT?  (Like CrossLoop does)?
[19:02] <Sh1G3rU> coventry, is the machine reachable from the internet?
[19:02] <lucido> pfifo, I dont know  because libapt hasn't been upgraded recently
[19:03] <coventry> Sh1G3rU: The machine can reach the internet.  Somehow, that is all you need for CrossLoop.  I think "ubuntu remote desktop NAT" is probably the google search term I should be looking at.
[19:03] <wheatthin> coventry, you can setup vnc, but not allow remote vnc connections via firewall, then use ssh to tunnel to the vnc desktop
[19:04] <wheatthin> as long as you have ssh access anything is possible ;)
[19:04] <Sh1G3rU> coventry,  you can use teamview
[19:04] <vm95> k1l: yes done
[19:05] <coventry> Sh1G3rU: Thanks, will check it out.  wheatthin: Yes, I could forward ssh to an exposed machine.  Thanks for the suggestion.
[19:05] <pfifo> wheatthin: I need to be able to use the grub screen on a remote server, lets see ssh solve this
[19:05] <k1l> vm95: can you show the output?
[19:05] <vm95> k1l: of both the commands?
[19:06] <k1l> yep
[19:06] <wheatthin> pfifo, why do you have to be an arse, especially on thanksgiving?
[19:06] <deanrock0> hi, what would be the reason that I get "Package libass4 is not available, but is referred to by another package." on precise?
[19:06] <pfifo> wheatthin: i am thankful today for remote KVM
[19:07] <vm95> k1l, this is for update http://pastebin.com/s7bkAykp
[19:07] <Sh1G3rU> pfifo, KVM-over-ip
[19:07] <GZA-Genius> deanrock0: old package replaced by newer one
[19:07] <pfifo> deanrock0: sounds like you need an apt-get update, or you installed a PPA
[19:08] <vm95> k1l, and here it is for install -f http://pastebin.com/JBYSp0cm
[19:08] <deanrock0> oh nvm, i found out I didn't have universe enabled in sources.list
[19:10] <k1l> vm95: try again to install that package
[19:10] <vm95> k1l, ok
[19:10] <vm95> k1l, am getting the same error again
[19:11] <k1l> vm95: im not sure if the mirror you are using is the problem
[19:11] <vm95> k1l, ok i'll try once by changing the mirror anyway thanx for the help
[19:12] <coventry> I am somewhat sketched out by the fact that the teamviewer deb file is served over HTTP.
[19:12] <wheatthin> lol and why would that be/
[19:13] <wheatthin> isn't that how the package manager works? ;p
[19:14] <coventry> wheatthin: I thought the package manager checked the checksums and signatures of the packages it downloads, though.
[19:14] <pfifo> coventry: I am really sketched out that selecting the recovery mode option on any ubuntu install drops you directly into a root shell without asking for a password of any sort. Ubuntu security is a joke, always has been
[19:14] <ikonia> coventry: it does do that
[19:15] <ikonia> pfifo: grow up - it's the same as any distro
[19:15] <ikonia> pfifo: it's up you to secure single user mode
[19:15] <coventry> pfifo: That's what full-disk encryption is for.
[19:15] <ikonia> coventry: no, it's really not
[19:15] <zykotick9> ikonia: ahhh no, single user mode usually prompts for a root password
[19:15] <ikonia> zykotick9: no, not if you change init - which in essence what recovery mode does
[19:16] <himanshu_linux> hi
[19:17] <coventry> ikonia: Oh, yeah, someone could trojan the request for the key, couldn't they.
[19:17] <ikonia> coventry: err no
[19:18] <ikonia> coventry: the point of recover shell is the disk is mounted, so for the disk to be mounted it would need to be unencrypted, which makes your point invalid
[19:22] <Maddeth> Hey all, any sysadmins here?
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> Maddeth: why not just ask the actual question you want answered
[19:23] <OxDeadC0de> probably everyone here Maddeth
[19:24] <Maddeth> Looking for advice on capacity planning
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> Maddeth: you'll have to give more detail than that, some an open ended question is unlikely to get answered. try be more specific and give some background
[19:25] <pfifo> Maddeth: it works better if you ask a question
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> s/some/such
[19:26] <Maddeth> hitsujiTMO: I understand that, apologies as I am having 2 conversations at once :)
[19:29] <Maddeth> hitsujiTMO: pfifo: I am looking for some sore of software, or even a nagios plugin that can help me predict if and when my VSphere datastores are going to run out of CPU, RAM and Disk capacity
[19:30] <Maddeth> s/sore/sort
[19:30] <unkn-error> Hello!
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> Maddeth: it might also be worthwhile asking the question in #ubuntu-server and maybe the guys in #vmware can give you a solution within vsphere
[19:33] <Maddeth> I have been writing a web front end to pull disk data from nagios based on the host and graph it, I could do the same for RAM and CPU easily enough, but I want to compare it to the clusters they are on
[19:34] <Maddeth> hitsujiTMO: thanks, will join those now
[19:37] <quizme> in the upstart cookbook, it says that session jobs will be looked for in /usr/share/ustart/sessions, but I put a job there and it's not in the list of upstart jobs as advertised in the upstart cookbook.  but if i put my job in /etc/init, it's there.  :~(
[19:37] <jhutchins_wk> Maddeth: We have found the reporting from VMware software to be very unreliable.
[19:38] <jhutchins_wk> Maddeth: Some fool configured the ram on a test server based on idle averages.  As soon as they tried to run test software it brought the server down.
[19:39] <jhutchins_wk> Maddeth: In many ways you just have to get your services up and running and see what they need.
[19:39] <Maddeth> jhutchins_wk: yeah, we have issues in some of our clusters where if we lose one, we are on the brink of losing the rest due to RAM use
[19:40] <jhutchins_wk> There's another agency in our data center that has servers with two terrabytes of RAM.
[19:40] <curd_is_hurd> hi
[19:40] <Maddeth> jhutchins_wk: We have everything up and running, I am just trying to get some service improvement in place
[19:42] <pfifo> jhutchins_wk: but yet l3 cache is still measured in megabytes
[19:46] <Maddeth> jhutchins_wk: I have nothing of that magnitude, we have just under 400Gb of RAM on one cluster and just under 200Gb on it's sister cluster
[19:47] <jhutchins_wk> Yeah, I think ours are 128 or 256/server.
[19:48] <jhutchins_wk> I think our maximum per guest is 16, maybe a couple 32's.
[19:53] <Jeaton> ive upgraded to 13.10 awhile back, since then Im constantly getting those system program problem detected errors, later on the desktop crashes
[19:54] <Jeaton> and steam doesn't seem to run anymore
[19:54] <Jeaton> anybody else having major issues since the upgrade?
[19:57] <demirulez> hello, someone know how i can enable wake up from suspend with USB mouse? Using Ubuntu 12.04.3, kernel 3.5.0-18-generic
[20:07] <demirulez> hello, someone know how i can enable wake up from suspend with USB mouse please? Using Ubuntu 12.04.3 on kernel 3.5.0-18-generic
[20:12] <arnis> hi. Installed fresh ubuntu 13.10, installed nginx-extras, uncomented gzip options in main config and I got Segmentation fault. Any ideas?
[20:12] <param> how to fix this ?   http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491044/
[20:13] <dougl> can someone tanslate this - UPDATE (name-of-table-you-found) SET user_pass="(MD5-string-you-made)" WHERE ID = (id#-of-account-you-are-reseting-password-for)" (actually changes the password) ?
[20:14] <param> http:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491044/  How to fix    from _sre import MAXREPEAT ImportError: cannot import name MAXREPEAT
[20:14] <dougl> it is mysql instructions for changing wordpress password to my site that I believe got hacked.
[20:15] <param> http:http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491044/  How to fix    from _sre import MAXREPEAT ImportError: cannot import name MAXREPEAT
[20:17] <mast3r210_> ragazzi ho un problema con il mio asus mi rimangono sempre accese le ventole del mio pc
[20:17] <Maddeth> dougl: not sure what you need translating
[20:17] <adanoob> hey all! got myself a lightdm problem... blank screen, I have attempted to reset/reinstall but still no go, HELP TIA
[20:18] <adanoob> I'm without a working system for couple of weeks now...
[20:18] <daftykins> wow, you haven't been able to google for 2 weeks?!
[20:18] <adanoob> funny you
[20:19] <adanoob> tried all sorts of solution shy of blasting the system ans reinstall
[20:19] <dougl> Maddeth, I am unsure of how mysql works and I am following "http://codex.wordpress.org/Resetting_Your_Password#Through_MySQL_Command_Line" the instructions to change password via mysql cuz the other howto do not work... can you hlep me with this?
[20:19] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: if you don't understand sql, then you shouldn't be blindly looking up statements. You should hire someone to fix the issue, discover how you got hacked, discover what info was taken/modified and then reinstall the system and plug the hole that left someone into your system
[20:19] <Maddeth> dougl: can you log onto mysql via the shell?
[20:19] <dougl> Maddeth, yes
[20:20] <dougl> Maddeth, I have never worked with mysql so I dont know what to expect with the commands so I dont know if I am using the correct variables...
[20:21] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, is that your impersonation of a helpful person - thank you :)
[20:21]  * dougl is just trying to learn.
[20:22] <adanoob> brb
[20:23] <sventon> hi all. I have some problems with my keybord mapping and have now (finally) been able to find a guide showing how to solve the problem. Unfortunally the guide is writen for  gnome desktop and I running xfc4.
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: i'm being serious here. there's potential for you to do a lot more damage and you currently do not know what was compromised and if the system is still compromised ( did the attacker leave a backdoor anywhere so that they can override any changes you make if you attempt to regain control of the system )
[20:23] <Maddeth> dougl: I have a wordpress site, I will log on and try and walk you through it
[20:23] <sventon> do you know if everyhing you can do in gnome also is posible using xfc4 ?
[20:24] <Maddeth> hitsujiTMO: sounds to me more like a website hijack than server based, or they would have changed the root password to the server and ore mysql
[20:24] <xangua> sventon: why you wouldn't¿
[20:25] <Maddeth> ore? or*
[20:25] <hitsujiTMO> Maddeth: yes, but they may have left a script there to allow the attacker to again change the password. hence why it needs to be propperly investigated
[20:25] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, I don't even know if I was hacked... your suggestions are appreciated but I don't really have a budget for a site that explains my computer setup or my cute pets... there is no reason to hack it so I doubt anyone will be back
[20:25] <Maddeth> hitsujiTMO: true
[20:26] <sventon> xangua: I can't find the "System->Preferences->Keyboard" settings for "Apple" as diskcribed here: http://javahacker.com/how-to-setup-ubuntu-under-macos-x-on-a-macbook-with-swedish-keyboard-svenskt-tangentbord-using-virtualbox/
[20:26] <Maddeth> dougl: there is plenty reason to hack it, eg, using it as part of a botnet
[20:26] <dougl> Maddeth, ah - learning... thank you...
[20:27] <linux69> ngjdhjgbdj
[20:27] <xangua> sventon: I wouldn't follow a guide from several years to begin with; but I am sure you can easily find xfce configuration using a graphical interface
[20:28] <xangua> sventon: there is #xubuntu if it helps, haven't used xfce in years
[20:28] <linux69> spanish please
[20:29] <DJones> !es | linux69
[20:29] <[Gentoo]> linux69: this is english channel
[20:29] <linux69> que maire hps
[20:30] <Morkel> Does anyone know how i can disable the config.privoxy.org at privoxy?
[20:30] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: what do you mean
[20:30] <Maddeth> dougl: from mysql : SHOW DATABASES;
[20:31] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: ah
[20:31] <Morkel> [Gentoo]: privoxy has a config page you can find it with config.privoxy.org (when you use the proxy) i can not find a way to disable it
[20:31] <[Gentoo]> yeah i use it, im looking through my config file
[20:32] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: do you want to block that page, or disallow people from changing the settings?
[20:33] <Maddeth> dougl: locate your database for wordpress, so lets say mine is called wordpress
[20:33] <Morkel> [Gentoo]: Block, i found the 'disallow from changing' option but i dont want that people can see the config
[20:33] <Maddeth> dougl: USE wordpress;
[20:33] <Maddeth> dougl: you should get : "Database changed"
[20:34] <dougl> Maddeth, did you have a look at the site I was trying to... what you are explaining I can do - sec I will catch up
[20:35] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: no idea on that, except add the url to /etc/hosts?
[20:35] <kaddii> is there a tool to test gpu functionality?
[20:35] <sventon> xangua: I will try #xubuntu, didn't know about that chanel. Yes the guide is old but is the only one I been able to find describing my problem. The menu are still almost the same in new versions of gnome aren't they ?
[20:35] <Maddeth> dougl: I know what it is trying to do, I wasn't sure how far you got and thought it was better to start from the beginning :)
[20:35] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: nor sure if theres a built in (privoxy) way of disabling it
[20:35] <Morkel> [Gentoo]: Thx, i think its not possible
[20:36] <[Gentoo]> Morkel: yeah i dont think it is possible, maybe report it to them
[20:36] <dougl> Maddeth, agreed - step 7 is where I am stumbling
[20:38] <Mech0z> anyone know if ubuntu is better at power consumption compared to say win8 or win8.1?
[20:38] <dougl> Maddeth, pm?
[20:38] <[Gentoo]> Mech0z: i doubt it
[20:38] <Mech0z> pm?
[20:39] <Maddeth> dougl: sure
[20:40] <AmunRa> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu and X refuses to start, box freezes. How can I force X during setup to stick to a generic video driver?
[20:40] <dougl> Maddeth, I don't know how to ... thanks
[20:40] <jonny5alive> ubottu: When i boot it 12.04 LTS it tells me waiting for network and then booting without it, i checked /etc/network/interfaces and everything appears correct, yet I cannot enable my wireless (laptop) or get the OS to recognize that cat5 is plugged in. I have the same install (to a 2nd usb key) in this desktop right now as we speak which works fine
[20:41] <jonny5alive> can anyone help me enable my network connections?
[20:44] <Morkel> [Gentoo]: i found a dirty workaround. When you change /etc/privoxy/templates to /etc/privoxy/templates-old privoxy can not find the status templates
[20:44] <jonny5alive> Is there any information I can provide that will enable someone to help me resolve the issue? I have been googling but nothing has been helpful so far.
[20:44] <geirha> jonny5alive: Why are you not using network manager?
[20:44] <daftykins> AmunRa: does it freeze or does it just boot to a black screen?
[20:44] <OerHeks> jonny5alive, is this a surface laptop ?
[20:44] <DeepBlue> does ubuntu support Mate DE?
[20:45] <k1l> DeepBlue: nope
[20:45] <jonny5alive> No, HP. By the way I have other USB keys with the same install from teh same cd that work fine
[20:45] <jonny5alive> geirha: Im not choosing to do anything other than let the system boot with the default configuration
[20:45] <jonny5alive> it simply does not grab a IP address from DHCP from the router, nor does it allow me to enable my wireles
[20:45] <OerHeks> jonny5alive, so the making of the usb went bad?
[20:46] <jonny5alive> Derheks: I dont know, do you think that is a option? Seems strange that the entire OS would function but this aspec t would not
[20:46] <jonny5alive> Frustrating since it takes like 4 hours to prepare the usb :-/
[20:47] <jonny5alive> Are there any troubleshoot steps I can do to isolate the issue before presuming its a bad install?
[20:47] <OerHeks> jonny5alive, you said you have other usb keys with the same install worked fine, so use them
[20:47] <AmunRa> it boots to a black screen, after that, CTRL-ALT-F1 doesn't go to the terminal
[20:47] <jonny5alive> Derheks: They are for other purposes. I will use them each respectivley for their purpose
[20:47] <jonny5alive> i would prefer to fix the issue rather than presume 'the install is bad'
[20:48] <jonny5alive> usually if you have a network issue, its driver related
[20:48] <OerHeks> jonny5alive,  do a MD5sum on the usb
[20:48] <jonny5alive> The usb was created using the alternate iso with encrypted lvm, to what purpose would the md5sum achieve?
[20:48] <HexSquid> hitsujiTMO: geekmasterflash: thanks for helping me out the other day
[20:52] <jonny5alive> http://askubuntu.com/questions/213614/waiting-for-network-configuration-problem
[20:52] <jonny5alive> this finally resolved the problem
[20:53] <jonny5alive> Next time please advise people on basic steps before telling them "reinstall the OS"
[20:53] <jonny5alive> good day.
[20:53] <Beldar> hehe had they looked on the web they would never have been here to be a jerk
[20:54] <academiao> hola hola
[20:55] <Alexxthek> ciaoo
[20:55] <Alexxthek> !list
[20:58] <Danato> After logging in, Im always asked to enter my password again to unlock my keyring. how do i fix that?
[20:59] <new0> hey everyone, i have 6G of Memory but ubuntu use only 1GB how is that? and how can i change it?
[20:59] <hitsujiTMO> new0 open more applications
[20:59] <Beldar> new0, use more apps
[21:00] <Beldar> get on gthe seti grid
[21:01] <new0> hitsujiTMO, Beldar once this channel told on how i can list my drives and i got the memory that said 1G instead of 6G
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> new0: can you pastebin the output of: free -m
[21:01] <new0> hitsujiTMO, sure
[21:02] <new0> hitsujiTMO, would u like to give me the CMD and i will copy & paste it into the terminal?
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> new0: can you also pastebin the output of: df -h
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> new0 yes paste that into the terminal, then pastebin the output
[21:03] <new0> hitsujiTMO, how can i do that from the terminal by one command?
[21:04] <new0> hitsujiTMO, http://pastebin.com/dq2F2jQm
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> new0: easiest thing to do install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> new0: you have 5952 MBs RAM and you're using 3743 MBs
[21:05] <new0> hitsujiTMO, and how can i use it?
[21:06] <hitsujiTMO> new0 ignore the pastebinit thing, you pasted the content already
[21:07] <mika__> can someone redirect me to some room where people know lot about viruses and virus clients?
[21:07] <new0> hitsujiTMO, right, tnx. also is there a way to to open Task Manager? and for the future to use that pastebin how can i do the command? because i remmeber that once i already did it
[21:08] <gndlp> join ##linux
[21:08] <hitsujiTMO> new0: install pastebint: sudo apt-get install pastebinit           then you can pipe the command output into pastebinit:    free -m | pastebinit
[21:09] <gndlp> lol sorry
[21:09] <daftykins> mika__: viruses... and Ubuntu...!?
[21:10] <hitsujiTMO> new0: the "task manager" is syatem monitor. just open it in the menu
[21:10] <new0> hitsujiTMO, tnx. and wow i just did: "free -m & df -h " this is so cool
[21:10] <mika__> daftykins:  nope, i mean this is general place for me to ask something like this, because majority here understands computers xD
[21:11] <new0> hitsujiTMO, wow. Thank You :)
[21:12] <mika__> daftykins: i don't irc so much, so i just want to know if someone knows some room where i can get more info about citadel-virus
[21:12] <dougl> Maddeth, great help thank you very much... good luck with your challenges - let me know when you want to change your splash screen lol
[21:12] <Beldar> !alis | mika__
[21:12] <Maddeth> dougl: haha, not a problem, will do ;)
[21:12] <mika__> Beldar:  thank you :)
[21:12] <dougl> LOL - very good to meet Maddeth and hitsujiTMO
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> when I launch synaptic package manager, I get this: Could not open file /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin - open (2: No such file or directory)
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> why do I get this?
[21:13] <Ari-Yang> http://gyazo.com/80c44cc6f614f72e8cf0b938454ae8d4.png here's a screen shot
[21:14] <Ari-Yang> I'm ubuntu 12.10
[21:16] <hitsujiTMO> ari-yang: i think thats a list of the packages in the repo: try rerunning: sudo apt-get update
[21:17] <Ari-Yang> hitsujiTMO: I did, didn't get anything unusual at all
[21:17] <Dudytz> hi all! I have a ubuntu minimal installation (saucy) in a virtual machine. I see that in the tasksel list the Ubuntu Gnome not appears ... what is the package to install via apt-get to install the gnome environment without the unity packages?
[21:17] <Hounddog> Hi everyone, i am having some trouble... actually currently i want to move my home folder to a new hd and when trying to mount the hd now i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491305/
[21:17] <Ari-Yang> hitsujiTMO: nvm it works now
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> didn't think of re-launching synaptic after running apt-get update :b
[21:18] <Ari-Yang> thanks
[21:18] <daftykins> Dudytz: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search gnome
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> Dudytz: gnome-shell or gnome-panel afaik
[21:18] <Dudytz> I do this ... but, what is the key package to install all the gnome requeriments?
[21:19] <Dudytz> ubuntu-gnome-desktop?
[21:19] <geirha> Dudytz: ubuntu-desktop gives you all the packages you'll have in a standard ubuntu desktop install
[21:19] <Hassen> doh..don't know why isn't YUMI doing working/bootable LIVE ubuntu CD anymore,strange
[21:19] <Isualin> hey everyone, anyone encountered a problem with octave, openmpi and libarpack2? i had to remove openmpi to be able to install libarpack2
[21:20] <Hounddog>  error: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (240) ... if anyone can help on that
[21:20] <adanoob> back
[21:20] <daftykins> Hounddog: looks like it doesn't like whatever options you've put in /etc/fstab - can you pastebin fstab?
[21:20] <Hounddog> daftykins: sure  give me a sec
[21:20] <soman> Why opera works slow after some minutes after run? Opera 12.16.1860, Linux i686, 3.2.0-57-generic, precise. I need it to restart every time. Full OS became unavailable while Opera is running. Installed plugins: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202, IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.2.3 (1.2.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.3)). No messages from terminal.
[21:21] <Hounddog> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491315/
[21:21] <daftykins> Hounddog: does that ~ appear in the end of the file or is that just a funny paste? i'd take that out if so
[21:22] <Hounddog> daftykins: ack forget it
[21:22] <daftykins> huh?
[21:22] <daftykins> Hounddog: did you solve it?
[21:22] <Hounddog> daftykins: that~ appears in vim
[21:22] <adanoob> I have tried: sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" install --reinstall lightdm   BUT still I get a flickering then blank screen on login screen, A USB booted Ubuntu works fine though... help  TIA
[21:22] <Hounddog> daftykins: i think so... i should also change it to ext4 :p
[21:23] <daftykins> Hounddog: so the 0 2 also looks odd to me
[21:23] <daftykins> hehe
[21:23] <daftykins> Hounddog: i did find it odd that you had one of each
[21:23] <onca> I installed a PCIe ssd but I cant find it in dmesg or lspci, any suggestions?
[21:23] <Hounddog> daftykins: now it works...
[21:23] <daftykins> \o/
[21:24] <Hounddog> so... now to move that darn home folder over
[21:24] <hitsujiTMO> Hounddog: change that 2 to 1 or 0   for /media/home
[21:24] <daftykins> onca: which drive is it?
[21:25] <Hounddog> hitsujiTMO: can you actually tell me what that is for?
[21:25] <onca> DaftyKins, OCz 120GB pcie 2 4x
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> Hounddog: its achecking order. normally you'd have it as 0 tbh
[21:26] <daftykins> onca: a revodrive?
[21:26] <onca> yah.
[21:26] <Hounddog> hitsujiTMO: ahh ok
[21:26] <Hounddog> hitsujiTMO: thank you for the information
[21:26] <daftykins> onca: which ubuntu are you trying to put on it / use it with?
[21:26] <hitsujiTMO> Hounddog: its for fsck
[21:27] <onca> DaftyKins, 13.10
[21:27] <daftykins> onca: are you trying to install to it but no disks come up in the partition manager?
[21:27] <zykotick9> onca: i hope your OCZ doesn't fail (inside warranty) - see they're declaring bankrupcy?
[21:27] <daftykins> ^i was kind of shocked
[21:27] <Chirs> Got a graphics driver query, if someone can help that'd be appreciated, please.
[21:28] <Chirs> Seriously? OCZ gone bankrupt?
[21:28] <daftykins> Chirs: ask the question :)
[21:28] <daftykins> yep
[21:28] <daftykins> they're dead.
[21:28] <Chirs> That's a real shame.
[21:28] <onca> me too. thats too bad..
[21:29] <Kule> HALLO
[21:29] <Kule> Hellou:)
[21:29] <Kule> Hello u :)
[21:29] <Kule> Hellou ;)
[21:29] <onca> stap it kule
[21:29] <ChronicLlama> hi
[21:29] <daftykins> onca: "sudo apt-get install dmraid" and it should see your revodrive
[21:29] <Chirs> The 319-update drivers for Nvidia that come up in software centre - are they the ones for the 780 GTX, the 319.23 update, please?
[21:29] <ChronicLlama> everyone in this channel has died
[21:29] <adanoob> can anybody help with my lightdm blank screen issue ? tried some resetting stuff, but no difference
[21:29] <onca> cool thanks
[21:31] <daftykins> onca: if it's the revodrive 3 apparently there is no support: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1815221
[21:32] <rejd> adanoob, when on blank screen->press ctrl+alt+f1
[21:32] <rejd> log in
[21:32] <rejd> and run
[21:32] <rejd> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:32] <rejd> sudo shutdown -h now
[21:32] <adanoob> rejd: no, it's on the login screen, ctl+alt+F1 does not work then
[21:32] <rejd> you can't see the login?
[21:32] <adanoob> no
[21:33] <rejd> oh
[21:33] <rejd> i had a similair problem
[21:33] <Kule> join #services
[21:33] <rejd> only, mine screen went black after logging
[21:33] <dandedilia> my problem is, i am the linux god!
[21:33] <adanoob> oh I have that also... but first things first, I need a working login screen
[21:34] <adanoob> ermm I had that also.... I should say
[21:34] <adanoob> it just became worse
[21:35] <Bray90820> How would i quiet the fans on my 2010 Mac Pro
[21:36] <Hounddog> thx for the help, was able to move my home folder without probs
[21:36] <Bray90820> I'm running Ubuntu 13.10
[21:36] <SJr> I just tried upgrading to Kubuntu 13.10 from 13.04. When the system rebooted it stuck me into FIlesystem check or mount failed. I cant seem to get the system to boot up again. How do I check which filesystem has the problem?
[21:38] <hitsujiTMO> SJr: go into grub and edit the boot options. remove "quiet splash"  this will get you a more verbose output
[21:38] <frojnd> HI  there. How do I tell terminalEmulator to print something automatically when I open it?
[21:38] <frojnd> It's xfce4-terminal to be precise...
[21:39] <frojnd> I have this terminal on desktop and when I click it I'd like it to print a message there automatically. How do I do that?
[21:40] <SJr> hitsujiTMO: there doesnt seem to be any problem
[21:40] <SJr> the last line is drm enabling rc6 states. The previous line is ata5 sata link down.
[21:41] <SJr> Oh it seems the dpkg install didnt complete, when Kubuntu asked me to reinstall it wasnt done would be my guess.
[21:42] <hitsujiTMO> Sjr: simplest fix is a reinstall i guess
[21:43] <san_> hi everyone, last night everything was ok, but today I'm having this issue, any gtk app , like mypaint, gimp or inkscape has no pressure sensitive if I launch them normal way (blender is working fine for sculpting with my tablet). but If I launch them with gksu or gksudo my graphic tablet works fine, with pressure sensitive for mypaint and gimp, but  inkscape still failling even with this method.
[21:43] <san_> note,beside gimp2.8, I also have two gimp 2.9 that I've compiled from git, those still working without problem (I didn't add them any personal brush in my home folder), I also have thow gimp-painter 2.8 I've compiled from git, they have their own folder for brushes and dynamics, those have the same issue as the main gimp 2.8, they only work properly if launch with gksudo
[21:43] <san_> graphic tablet, non wacom , brand:genius mousepen 8x6 (evdev driver)
[21:43] <san_> system ubuntustudio 13.04 64bit
[21:43] <FloodBot1> san_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <SJr> I hope I can just do the dpkg --configure -a
[21:43] <san_> does anyone know how to solve this problem? or
[21:44] <Bray90820> How would i quiet the fans on my 2010 Mac Pro I am running ubuntu 13.10
[21:44] <hitsujiTMO> sjr: you could maybe boot a live cd and chroot in and try it that way
[21:44] <zykotick9> san_: if you have to launch GUI apps with gksudo - something is VERY wrong...  PS. I have no idea however
[21:45] <hitsujiTMO> sjr: but normally for issues stemming from upgrades a clean reinstall is the way to go
[21:45] <adanoob> hell, I'm absolutely sick of this
[21:46] <SJr> Yeah no cd drive. After I get something up and running I may reinstall but we will see if I need too.
[21:46] <adanoob> gonna go re-install route, tired of searching around for "lightdm blank screen" and stuff
[21:46] <dougl> adanoob, what are y9our tyrying to do?
[21:46] <adanoob> it's amazing that Linux still plagued by these problems
[21:46] <dougl> just got back
[21:47] <adanoob> dougl: like I said, trying to recover from blank screen on login screen
[21:48] <adanoob> dougl: I had Nvidia related issues, tried to solve them, then found myself with even worse problem which is blank screen at login
[21:48] <adanoob> all I get now is the root login on the recovery console - that's it
[21:48] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: have you tried the whole nomodeset malarkey?
[21:48] <dougl> adanoob, sorry thot it might be something I ... did you try jockeytext?
[21:49] <adanoob> what? nonodereset !? jockettext ?
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: add nomodeset to the grub boot entry
[21:49] <adanoob> what are those ? and whch should I try first ?
[21:49] <dougl> adanoob, jockey-text will install nvidia propietary driv ers
[21:49] <dougl> jockey <tab>
[21:50] <dougl> at a command prompt
[21:50] <adanoob> ok, so how do I add the nomodereset to grub ?
[21:50] <adanoob> from the cmd line that is
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | adanoob
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: reboot to grub, hit e to edit the entry and add nomodeset after quiet splash
[21:51] <adanoob> ok, will look into this, but I did have a fully working system a while back s...
[21:51] <dougl> adanoob, let me know if you need help with hitsujiTMO route
[21:51] <adanoob> so...
[21:52] <Chirs> adanoob that happened to me, when I tried to update to 319 recently. Got a black screen. Ended up re-installing but the nomodeset probably would have solved it.
[21:53] <adanoob> ok, justa sec - I have reverted back to the nouveau driver... so I should try nomodereset first .. I guess
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: if that doesnt work use text instead. this should at least get you a full cli
[21:53] <adanoob> looking at trhe page
[21:53] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, what is the grub config file to make your suggestion permanent
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: nomodeset as in no mode set         not nomodereset
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: dougl the perm is /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub but i'd try it on a once off attempt first
[21:54] <Chirs> speaking of which - when you update proprietary drivers, is deactivating old ones and activating new ones the way to go, please?
[21:55] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, agreed
[21:55] <dougl> ...
[21:55] <dougl> just wanted to be prepared if you were busy
[21:57] <motaka2> hello, I want to try to install sqlite for php on ubuntu 12.04 but i get this error:  http://codepaste.net/hsmhhb
[21:58] <bekks> motaka2: Read the last line of your paste.
[21:58] <onca> if my system hangs during shutdown and appears to have some errors during boot, how can i figure out what is wrong?
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> onca: hunt for errors in dmesg and syslog
[21:59] <bekks> onca: Well, tell us which errors you can see.
[21:59] <motaka2> bekks: I don't get that what does it mean without package?
[21:59] <dougl> motaka2, apt-get -f install
[21:59] <dougl> sudo apt-get -f install
[22:00] <motaka2> dougl: what would that command do ?
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> onca: can you install pastebinit and run: dmesg | pastebinit
[22:00] <bekks> motaka2: It will try to fix your broken packages.
[22:00] <zykotick9> motaka2: -f is fix
[22:00] <dougl> motaka2, force the install of broken or missing packages.
[22:01] <motaka2> thank you, it is processing
[22:01] <dougl> fix... I thot force
[22:01] <onca> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491483/
[22:02] <motaka2> bekks: zykotick9 dougl http://codepaste.net/21rx57
[22:02] <dougl> looking
[22:03] <adanoob> back, if I did that right (the nomodest) it made no difference - need to establish if I did that right
[22:04] <zykotick9> motaka2: sorry, i've never seen that error before - best of luck
[22:04] <motaka2> zykotick9: thx
[22:04] <dougl> motaka2, dpkg-reconfigure localepurge is what I would do blindly but get confirmation from someone more knowlegeable.
[22:05] <zbrkxbr_> hi guys I needhelp I just installed ubuntu and it starts a bit late it gives me an error something like or about nouveu
[22:05] <adanoob> where should I append the nomodeset ? to the  linux /boot bla bla line in the Grub option ?
[22:05] <onca> How would i disable samba and nmbd services?
[22:05] <dougl> adanoob, it worked?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> onca: not seeing anything odd. can you give more details of the error you're referring to
[22:05] <adanoob> no
[22:06] <adanoob> dougl: but I need to establish if I did the thing right
[22:06] <adanoob> hence my question: where should I append the nomodeset ? to the linux /boot bla bla line in the Grub option ?
[22:06] <dougl> on your boot option in your grub entry you hit e and add it to the end and then boot with that option...
[22:06] <motaka2> dougl: what does sqlite has to do with that ?
[22:06] <bekks> !nomodeset | adanoob
[22:06] <onca> hitsujiTMO, thanks, well my system boots fine but I think some services are failing. also, i have services running i cant disable like smb and nmbd
[22:07] <bekks> adanoob: Please see the link.
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: yup thats about right. can you try text instead.   text will allow you to log in under cli if its an issue with the xserver
[22:07] <motaka2> who is more knowlegable?
[22:07] <motaka2> bekks: do u know what I should do ?
[22:07] <dougl> motaka2, I have  no idea prolly nothing but the utility is saying that item needs to be fixed and tells you how to fix it.
[22:07] <onca> hitsujiTMO, I just think it could be booting much much faster
[22:07] <adanoob> bekks: hitsujiTMO had already pointed that out! but the page is full of if/then stuff plus wubi considerations - not clear to determine a clear course of action
[22:08] <zbrkxbr_> and now the desktop doesn't open   ok time to give system information  (Asus EEE Pc 1201n - 1.6 Ghz İntel Atom x4 - nvdia ION graphics - include HDMI output - 3 GB RAM)
[22:08] <motaka2> dougl: it warns me me if I run dpkg-reconfigure localepurge   it will remove all locale files
[22:08] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: where should I place the text option ?
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> onca: well its booting in about 30 seconds. is this a SSD?
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: where you put the nomodeset
[22:09] <dougl> motaka2, I doubt it but cannot say forsure... but your command yeilded that instruction for the errors it encountered
[22:09] <onca> hitsujiTMO, thats a hybrid drive. http://odium.mooo.com:81 is my system specifications.
[22:10] <dougl> motaka2, I think it will purge the broken items tho
[22:10] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: sorry, i inadvertently closed the window and left channel, can you repeat your last instructionb to me please ? thanks
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> onca: can you pastebin the output of: lsblk
[22:11] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: put text where you put the nomodeset
[22:11] <zbrkxbr_> [13.804342] nouveu E[    PBUS][0000:05:00.0] MMIO fead of 0x000000008 FAULT a t 0x0x100228      anybody know what is that
[22:11] <adanoob> ah
[22:12] <onca> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491521/
[22:12] <bekks> zbrkxbr_: Out of context, it is hard to guess.
[22:12] <bekks> zbrkxbr_: Pastebin the entire source where you got that line from please.
[22:12] <zbrkxbr_> bekks thats all of the line
[22:12] <zbrkxbr_> it shown at the booting
[22:13] <bekks> zbrkxbr_: Then pastebin "dmesg" please.
[22:13] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: uff! so with text I got myself a login finally!
[22:13] <adanoob> now... jokeytext ?
[22:13] <dougl> adanoob, no
[22:13] <zbrkxbr_> I can't because I can't reach the desktop
[22:14] <zbrkxbr_> are there anyway to do it with rec console
[22:14] <dougl> adanoob, you are at a desktop or a tty login?
[22:14] <bekks> zbrkxbr_: Whats "rec console"?
[22:14] <adanoob> dougl: tty login
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: no, first can you install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit      then run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log           note the capital X
[22:14] <zbrkxbr_> recorvery console
[22:14] <bekks> !pastebinit | zbrkxbr_
[22:14] <zbrkxbr_> ctrl - alt f12 and ctrl-alt f1/2/3/4
[22:15] <dougl> adanoob, hitsujiTMO is with us still lets follow his trane of thot...
[22:15] <Kule> Hellou anyone, what does it mean when I open pm window message: "Error opening log file and then some user.log"?
[22:15] <zbrkxbr_> |   how can I write it :S
[22:15] <adanoob> dougl: hitsujiTMO yeah ok! thanks
[22:15] <bekks> zbrkxbr_: dmesg | pastebinit
[22:15] <zbrkxbr_> oh
[22:16] <onca> hitsujiTMO: how do i interpret service --status-all > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491530/ and why cant i ever disable bluetooth cups nmdb samba etc?
[22:17] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: paste.ubuntu.com/6491543
[22:17] <zbrkxbr_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491545/
[22:17] <xyz> got a quick question: what are the two methods for temporarily adding the IP 192.168.32.12/14 to interface tap0
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> onca: i'm not familiar with those services tbh. there could be a whole number of reasons why
[22:17] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: looking at it also via another PC
[22:17] <adanoob> this PC actually
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> onca: btw: to dump the full output of that command you need to use: service --status-all &> file
[22:20] <zbrkxbr_> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491545/
[22:20] <onca> oh, got it, thank you  hitsujiTMO
[22:20] <layke_> Hey. Installed 12.04. Did an inadvertant upgrade to development 14.04. Any way to get back to a LTS release?
[22:20] <dougl> adanoob, I am lost... hitsujiTMO is going somewhere but it seems beyond me...
[22:21] <bekks> layke_: No, you have to reinstall.
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: that file says that xserver is loading normally. this is run from the problematic pc right?
[22:21] <pfifo> layke_: yes, format and reinstall
[22:21] <layke_> bekks, Okay cheers. If I stick on this 14.04, willl this prevent me from upgrade in future?
[22:21]  * dougl is resigning himself to a cheering squad for adanoob and hitsujiTMO 
[22:21] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: yes, of course :)
[22:22] <layke_> I don't have the energy right now to sit through another 90 minutes of config etc. So I'll live with 14.04 for the time being. Just want to know what headaches I should expect in the future.
[22:22] <adanoob> dougl: lol, don't leave us, we need all the cheering we can get !!
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: can you try: dmesg | pastebinit
[22:22] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: sure, one sec
[22:22] <pfifo> layke_: 14.04 is unstable
[22:23] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491571
[22:23] <dougl> adanoob, I am not going anywhere - lol, as useless as I am I know from my own experience when it comes to linux the answers come from perseverance and good company and we have both here
[22:24] <pfifo> funny, in my experience the answers come from the source
[22:24] <dougl> LOL
[22:24]  * adanoob is thankfull for dougl  and hitsujiTMO  :)
[22:26] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, did you need all the dmesg output? dont you want to 'tail'?
[22:26] <pfifo> dougl: all
[22:26] <hitsujiTMO> dougl: nope. full lot. dmesg is an ongoing log right from boot
[22:27] <dougl> k
[22:27]  * dougl sits quietly to learn from the pros
[22:27] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: whats this " [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work."
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: its an interesting message that may point towards your issue. but before you try it: what gpu do you have? and what nvidia driver did you install? you're on the nvidia driver not nouveau btw
[22:31] <adanoob> yes video driver nouveau currently
[22:31] <zbrkxbr_> guys I need help :S
[22:31] <adanoob> GPU is stated somewhere in the last log, I'll try to dig it out
[22:32] <zbrkxbr_> and I don't ask to ask I asked already and gived the information that you needed :S
[22:32] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: NVIDIA GPU Quadro NVS 110M (G72
[22:33] <pfifo> zbrkxbr_: what the issue?
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: nvidia is still loaded. looks like you've a legacy card. can you try: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[22:33] <dougl> I had a notebook with 2 video cards in it... intel and nvidia 105 there were issues with that config
[22:34] <adanoob> I can try that yes, one sec... or two
[22:35] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491620
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: what version of ubuntu is this?
[22:36] <adanoob> latest one
[22:36] <adanoob> 13.10 ?
[22:36] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: before I have followed instructions at http://askubuntu.com/questions/41681/blank-screen-after-installing-nvidia-restricted-driver
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173 nvidia-common nvidia-settings-304
[22:37] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: shouldn't that be already done with: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: yes but it clearly hasnt.    actuall you can leave in nvidia-common. just purge the other 2: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-173 nvidia-settings-304
[22:39] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: too lae
[22:39] <adanoob> nvidia-common is gone
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[22:39] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: should I install it again ?
[22:39] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: nah, try rebooting and see what happens
[22:40] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: ai .... let's see
[22:41] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: whoa!!! I got myself a GUI login screen back !!! what would you know....
[22:42] <adanoob> so the instructions on the page are wrong... damm it
[22:42] <dougl> yahooooo!!!!
[22:42] <dougl> adanoob, there is always one piece of the puzzle missing
[22:42] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: they may be a bit outdated
[22:43] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: dougl   AND I CAN LOGIN TO THE GUI !!!!!
[22:43] <dougl> hitsujiTMO, adanoob excellent work you guys... glad I could be a good cheering squad.
[22:43] <hitsujiTMO> :)
[22:43]  * adanoob can't thank enough to hitsujiTMO and to dougl  !!! thanks guys
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | adanoob
[22:44] <pfifo> this wouldnt have been possible without dougl's cheering
[22:44] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: saf to say that problems were due to leftover from nvidia-common ?
[22:44] <dougl> LOL
[22:45] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: not nvidia-common. the nvidia-173
[22:45] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: but why ? was it being loaded ? I think I was at nouveau no ?
[22:46]  * dougl feels alone when his linux boxes are not behaving... I know that good company calms me down so that is what I was going for.
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: nvidia-common is just a set of common nvidia bits. its not actually anything that gets loaded. nope it was still there so it was getting loaded instead of nvidia.
[22:46] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: now I'm scared to even try te restricted drivers, I dunno which one should work, even though I did have 304 and 304-updates running
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: you're not going ot gain any benefit from reistrcted drivers with your gpu
[22:47] <bekks> adanoob: before switching drivers, just ensure the "old" one is fully uninstalled.
[22:47] <adanoob> dougl: I know that feeling.... and good company does help!
[22:47] <pfifo> i hear noaveau is actually getting pretty good, but the restricted drivers are still the best
[22:47] <cripto> Happy turkey day guys.
[22:48] <dougl> adanoob, agreed... you are thinking of updating your driver for a 105 card?
[22:48] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: I know from past experience that I do gain a much much zippier screen with restricted drivers
[22:48] <cripto> quick question, if password logins are disabled on my server, ie, no one can ssh in without my rsa key, is it safe to assume that bad passwords are safe
[22:48] <adanoob> dougl:  105 card ?
[22:48] <dougl> your nvidia gfx card?
[22:49]  * dougl may be getting 2 machines mixed up
[22:49] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: doug  yeah I'm thinking of using those restricted drivers, because, they have worked just a while back, and response is so much better, i.e. with nouveau  the unity interface is un-usable
[22:50] <bekks> adanoob: yeah, and using the latest nvidia-updates drivers from the stock repos should work fine for your graphics card.
[22:51] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, I am running nvidia as well, the 319 driver is very good but I can't say that nvidia-current or nvidia-331 are worth installing
[22:51] <onca> okay, this is dumb, nothing I do will disable these services..
[22:51] <bekks> onca: We dont know what you are doing...?
[22:51] <adanoob> geekmasterflash: I don't have those choices in my system
[22:51] <onca> bekks, trying to disable bluetooth and samba
[22:51] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, What do you plan to do with it?
[22:52] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, I game with mine
[22:52] <pfifo> onca: to disable an upstart service tack 'start on never' to the end of the .conf file for it in /etc/init/
[22:52] <onca> bekks, I used service blah remove and update-rc.d blah remove
[22:52] <hylian> i installed crunchbang and now win 7 won't boot. the boot loader is still there though, becuase it tells me to rnu my win repair cd. i really don't want to wip the hd and start over, can anyone help me?
[22:52] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, If you aren't gaming, I can't really say the noveau drivers are bad
[22:52] <onca> pfifo thanks
[22:52] <adanoob> geekmasterflash: o I don't game, most I use it is for photo editing
[22:52] <bekks> hylian: crunchbang isnt supported in here.
[22:52] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, ah, that might need the proprietary drivers
[22:52] <tonyt> hylian the bcd store probly needs fixing
[22:53] <adanoob> geekmasterflash: so how do I disable that animated gradient appearance of the unity menu ? takes 5 seconds just to become fully available
[22:53] <hylian> bekks: i know, but the cb channel is a dead doornail. I was hoping someone dealt with ubuntu/win7 probs before and could give me a heads up
[22:53] <dougl> bekks, what kind of card did adanoob have 110m 105m 330m - lol
[22:53] <geekmasterflash> adanoob, I don't use unity
[22:53] <bekks> hylian: the unavailability of crunchbang support doesnt make it supported in here.
[22:53] <Spr1ng> /boot is full, how do I use apt-get to remove old kernels and initrds ?
[22:53] <tonyt> hylian use a win 7 install cd to fix the boot record of win 7
[22:53] <adanoob> dougl: NVIDIA GPU Quadro NVS 110M (G72  - from a Dell latitude d620  somewhat old machine yeah
[22:53] <hylian> tonyt: so how do i do that... never heard of the bcd store...
[22:54] <tonyt> hylian its an entry thats made by windows 7 when its installed to your hard drive
[22:54] <dougl> adanoob, thanks
[22:54] <hylian> tonyt, if i do that, how do i recover the wiped grun2?
[22:54] <pfifo> !grub | hylian this is about as much as you can get from this channel (maybe !uefi could help):
[22:54] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: install unity-tweak-tool disable background blur
[22:54] <tonyt> im not sure about the grub part of it
[22:55] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: oh I've done all that already
[22:55] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: but still, how do I disable the fadein effect of unity ?
[22:55] <hylian> bekks: i appreciate that. I am asking for some kindness because I am in a sticky situation.
[22:55] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: fade in effect of the unity window or interface
[22:55] <Ilmen2> Hello;  I'll probably try installing Ubuntu tomorrow; if I understood correctly, apart from the main partition, I'll have to create a swap partition whose size has to equal the amount of RAM of my computer (4GB), right?
[22:56] <pfifo> Ilmen2: no, you dont have to (I dont) its only recommended
[22:56] <geekmasterflash> Ilmen2, You dont have to, I usually don't put any swap if I have more than 2 GB of memory
[22:56] <zykotick9> Ilmen2: not a bad "rule" to follow.  if you want to hibernate, it's RAM+a little ;)
[22:56] <geekmasterflash> Ilmen2, If it's a laptop, I do recommend you do
[22:56] <geekmasterflash> Ilmen2, As you can hibernate it that way
[22:57] <zykotick9> !swap | Ilmen2
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: try turning off window animations otherwise i can't think of where an option for that is
[22:57] <Ilmen2> okay; can it be created from the installer?
[22:57] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: yeah, trying that
[22:57] <zykotick9> Ilmen2: yes
[22:57] <Ilmen2> Thanks everyone for the replies :)
[22:57] <Dudytz> hi all! how to set (via config files) the gnome-flashback as the default desktop manager in gdm? (ubuntu 13.10)
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: otherwise there may be an option in ccsm, but it can be dangerous to poke around there
[22:58] <geekmasterflash> Dudytz, When you boot to GDM there is a option below your log in prompt that allows you to select session
[22:58] <geekmasterflash> Dudytz, Change it to Gnome Flashback there
[22:58] <geekmasterflash> Dudytz, And it will be the default until you change it
[22:59] <Dudytz> I don't boot gdm
[22:59] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: window animation does not seem to do the trick
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> :(
[22:59] <Dudytz> is a remote session accessed by X forward
[22:59] <geekmasterflash> Dudytz, Ah, then I don't know.
[22:59] <Dudytz> this is because I say via config files
[22:59] <dougl> anyone want to see my fully branded and customized 13.10 install? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mpzawtKNGM
[23:01] <pfifo> dougl: #ubuntu-offtopic does
[23:02] <dougl> pfifo, thanks ... and sorry too ;)
[23:03] <nishanth> anyone know about how to set up compiz
[23:03] <zykotick9> nishanth: are you using Unity?  if so, you're using compiz.
[23:03] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, I know as much as to run ccsm to customize it
[23:04] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, Chances are compiz is already running
[23:04] <adanoob> brb
[23:04] <nishanth> i am using gnome
[23:04] <Spr1ng> My /boot partition is full and I cannot apt-get purge | apt-get autoremove or apt-get -f install without errors about lack of diskspace, however, I'm trying to free diskspace.  How can I fix this?
[23:04] <geekmasterflash> nishanth, sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome I believe.
[23:04] <adanoob> anybody knows the different between the nvidia drivers 304 and 304-updates ?
[23:04] <zykotick9> nishanth: then you're using mutter...
[23:05] <adanoob> brb
[23:06] <hystero> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVRfG9M84Gc
[23:06] <zykotick9> nishanth: i don't think gnome3 does compiz... good luck.
[23:07] <geekmasterflash> zykotick9, it can. I have it set up to use it.
[23:07] <geekmasterflash> !ot | hystero
[23:09] <pfifo> Spr1ng: google offered this http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[23:10] <Spr1ng> pfifo: I went through that already, the problem is I have no space left for apt-get to do it's stuff but I need to purge stuff in order to make space.  See my problem.
[23:11] <Spr1ng> pfifo: If I run any of those commands I get disk space errors from apt-get
[23:11] <pfifo> Spr1ng: can you pastebin the output of  'df -h'
[23:11] <Spr1ng> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491747/
[23:11] <zykotick9> Spr1ng: do you have a lot of packages cached?  "du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/"
[23:12] <Spr1ng> zykotick9: its only /boot that is full
[23:12] <zykotick9> Spr1ng: ahhh, do you actually need /boot for some reason?
[23:12] <Spr1ng> errr yes
[23:12] <zykotick9> Spr1ng: good luck.
[23:13] <pfifo> Spr1ng: pic one of the old initrds and 'echo -n | sudo tee /boot/initrd.img.whatever'
[23:13] <midgaze> Hi, in the installer, what happens if you select both the full-disk encryption, and home directory encryption, does it encrypt things twice?
[23:13] <Guest64603> hi guys this may be a stupid question but is there anyway to make the ubuntu cursor resemble that from mac?  you know with a red or yellow circle and that when you click yo see it or it makes sounds, is there?
[23:14] <SchrodingersScat> midgaze: home would be twice
[23:14] <midgaze> SchrodingersScat: ah, that's pretty bad, and an easy mistake to make
[23:15] <zykotick9> Spr1ng: fyi, you made /boot far too small...
[23:16] <hitsujiTMO> Guest64603: have a look in gnome-look.org for a cursor theme
[23:17] <Guest64603> ok i will, is just that i have been looking for hours on the web now lol ill go check that
[23:18] <Xgates> hey guys
[23:19] <Xgates> I have an nvidia gpu and wanted to know if I switch over to the nvidia drivers is there a way to keep the plymouth/splash looking good with the higher resolution like nouveau does?
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> Guest64603: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Shere+Khan+X?content=57588
[23:20] <zykotick9> Xgates: it IS possible... i forget the details though.  more work then it's worth IMO.
[23:20] <Guest64603> hitsujiTMO: thank you!!!!
[23:21] <Xgates> zykotick9: yeah I was looking around before, I don't really run Ubuntu, just use it to build Android and the nouveau drivers aren't do great for thermal support, make the chips run hotter...
[23:21] <Xgates> aren't do/to...
[23:22] <glitsj16> Xgates: sure, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1994067&p=11993109#post11993109 has instructions .. you can change 'sudo emacs' in those by 'sudo nano' for cli edits or by 'gksudo gedit' for gui edits
[23:23] <Spr1ng> pfifo: thanks that worked
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> xgates: nouveau has massive power management improvements in kernel 3.12
[23:23] <Xgates> hmm well is Ubuntu going to get 3.12 anytime soon?
[23:23] <xyz> how would i go about retrieving the contents of root crontab file from multiple servers?
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> Xgates: you can install the mainline if you want to try it
[23:24] <Xgates> ok thx
[23:24] <ISOcrates> I have a PC running Ubuntu 12.04 x64 in my basement and a brand new server running Ubuntu 13.10 Server x64 with RAID 10 also set up in my basement.  I just ran a speed test from each of them (one after the other) and I got drastically different speeds.  I have never set up a server using RAID 10 before so maybe I did something wrong.  Here is a screenshot, any thoughts would be much appreciated:  https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/
[23:25] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Bad link.
[23:25] <ISOcrates> k one sec
[23:26] <ISOcrates> http://outchy.org/temp/speeds.jpg
[23:27] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Well they are on two different ISPs
[23:27] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, So your speed issue could be carrier
[23:27] <Xgates> I forget, for my resolution how can I check what it supports for plymouth?
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> ISOcrates: your net speeds have nothing to do with raid.
[23:27] <ikonia> ISOcrates: why do you think the difference in speed has anything to do with raid ?
[23:27] <ikonia> ISOcrates: there could be many reasons for different
[23:27] <ISOcrates> Just thought it might be a write speed issue, really didn't know :/
[23:28] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, It looks like one box is on Comcast and the other is on Towerstream and you are connecting from Comcast
[23:28] <ikonia> ISOcrates: a basic difference is look at the hosts they are using - it's different hosts, on hosted by comcast, the other hosted by towerstream
[23:28] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, I am not surprised that Comcast is connecting to servers they host quicker.
[23:29] <ikonia> look at the difference in the pings - the slower one is quicker than the faster one, one is a peer network one is not
[23:29] <ISOcrates> I've never even heard of Towerstream
[23:29] <ISOcrates> How can I be using them?
[23:29] <ikonia> ISOcrates: you're not using them
[23:29] <ikonia> ISOcrates: it's a random server on the internet you are downloading for as part of the test
[23:29] <ISOcrates> Aha
[23:29] <ISOcrates> Sorry
[23:30] <ISOcrates> Well I noticed the speed difference in sabnzbd
[23:30] <ikonia> I don't know what sabnzbd is
[23:30] <ISOcrates> One gets 6mbps download, one gets 500kbps
[23:30] <ISOcrates> It's a usenet downloader
[23:31] <ISOcrates> I just don't get the difference in speeds
[23:31] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Well, I am very positive the issue isn't related to how your set up your RAID
[23:31] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: Ok :)
[23:31] <ikonia> ISOcrates: there are many reason that could have an impact
[23:31] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, But so far the test you've run just show that come carriers are slower than others.
[23:31] <glitsj16> Xgates: sudo hwinfo --framebuffer is one option to find out
[23:32] <Xgates> glitsj16: thx
[23:32] <ISOcrates> Any thoughts on any other tests I could run to find out why the discrepancy?
[23:32] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Do you have a third machine local to both?
[23:32] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: Yeah the one I'm on
[23:32] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, There may not even be a discrepancy
[23:32] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, So ping them locally
[23:33] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, No need to go through a second server like you did
[23:33] <ISOcrates> Ok sorry, so ping which?
[23:33] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Ping one, look at latency then ping the second and compare.
[23:33] <Layke> I just installed 12.04 and when I launch update-manager I don't see any updates available? If I run update-manager -d, I see 14.04
[23:33] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: ok one sec
[23:33] <Layke> I want to upgrade to 13.10 LTS
[23:34] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: I used a script I found on github to run the speedtest... not sure which IP it used
[23:34] <ikonia> Layke: 13.10 is not lts
[23:34] <Xgates> glitsj16: no hwinfo on this box
[23:34] <zykotick9> Layke: by default LTS only upgrades to the next LTS... there is a way to change that.  I"m not sure how though.
[23:34] <Spr1ng> zykotick9: no it's not. kernels and images aren't that big, my problem was it was full of old kernels.  so cleaning those out freed up sapce, 300MB for /boot is plenty.
[23:34] <ikonia> Layke: that's why 12.04 lts is not offering an update to 13.10
[23:34] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, If the boxes are in the same place as you
[23:34] <Layke> ikonia, O, OKay. So it 12.04 the latest LTS?
[23:34] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Just log in and find the local IP
[23:35] <glitsj16> Xgates: sudo apt-get install hwinfo in that case
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, and ping them?
[23:35] <ikonia> Layke: correct
[23:35] <Xgates> of course tried that LOL --->  Package 'hwinfo' has no installation candidate
[23:35] <Layke> ikonia, Thanks :) I just assumed that each 6monthlky release was a LTS.
[23:35] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: Do you mean the external IP address of my modem?
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, No
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, You believe there is a speed difference between them
[23:35] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: yes
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, So from the same LAN as both boxes
[23:35] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Ping them from the local side
[23:36] <glitsj16> Xgates: what ubuntu version are you using?
[23:36] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, To see what the time difference is
[23:36] <ISOcrates> geekmasterflash: ok
[23:36] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, The test you ran doesnt prove there is one, it just proves there is a massive speed difference between different networks
[23:36] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, So don't test from another networks
[23:36] <geekmasterflash> ISOcrates, Test from the one you are on.
[23:36] <Xgates> glitsj16:  13.10
[23:38] <glitsj16> Xgates: odd, no hwinfo on 13.10 allright .. have you tried with a resolution you know works for you?
[23:40] <mina> hey
[23:40] <amnith> Does anyone know what's with ubuntu freezing whenever you play videos on youtube?
[23:40] <Xgates> to be honest not sure what this laptop supports in what ranges...
[23:40] <zykotick9> amnith: it's called Flash ;)
[23:40] <amnith> But I have youtube videos playing on html 5
[23:41] <Beldar> amnith, depends on the resolution possibly
[23:41] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Might have something wrong with your gfx card or driver.
[23:41] <bekks> amnith: Not every video on YT is HTML5.
[23:41] <glitsj16> Xgates: or you could install the hwinfo from raring temporarily, this is a onece-and-forget edit so won't hurt to try that i suppose --> http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/hwinfo
[23:41] <zykotick9> amnith: are you SURE it's html5 that's playing?  not much is html5 at this point.
[23:41] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log may be a good place to start.
[23:41] <Xgates> np
[23:41] <Xgates> thx
[23:42] <amnith> How do I check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> amnith are you using fglrx?
[23:42] <amnith> hitsujiTMO, I have no idea.
[23:42] <sp4d3s> yey
[23:42] <amnith> fglrx
[23:42] <barbapappa_> Hi iam having trouble installing intel driver for ubuntu 13.10. It needs libpackagekit-glib2-14 which isent availible. Only 2-16 is availible but not working.
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> amnith: if you have no idea then you probably are not. which is good.
[23:43] <Layke> I've been using KDE for last 2+ years and I would love to get used to Unity but I still find the unity left toolbar just difficult. I have dual monitors, and as far as I'm aware the unity bar was made as a space saver. I don't care about saving space.. I just want to see all my apps in a taskbar to quickly switch..
[23:43] <barbapappa_> is this a known issue ?
[23:43] <Layke> Has anything moved forward on unity and taskbars in last year? Or is it still just the same left dock?
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: intel drivers for what?
[23:43] <barbapappa_> video
[23:43] <k1l> barbapappa_: the intel driver should be in the kernel anyway. no need to install it
[23:44] <zykotick9> Layke: so, why don't you using continue using KDE?
[23:44] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: intel drivers are built into the kernel
[23:44] <amnith> So, if flash is the problem, what other apps can I use to watch yt videos?
[23:44] <barbapappa_> iam having trouble with the gtk-window-decorator crashing
[23:44] <pfifo> amnith: toggle hardware acceleration in flash settings
[23:45] <Layke> zykotick9, I've just done a fresh install of Ubuntu. I've been using the same setup for few years... it works well, so will return to it.
[23:45] <amnith> pfifo, you mean turn it off? I did already.
[23:45] <Layke> zykotick9, Only curious if there are options available to me. (When unityu was first released there wasn't)
[23:45] <zykotick9> Layke: i get the impression that multi-monitor+ubuntu isn't a good combination YMMV
[23:46] <pfifo> amnith: no i mean toggle it, and if that didnt help then it must be something else
[23:46] <sp4d3s> ^^
[23:46] <pfifo> amnith: is ubuntu freezing or is the video freezing?
[23:46] <geekmasterflash> amnith, When it freezes can you hit cntl+alt+f1 and drop to command?
[23:47] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Or is a total system lock up?
[23:47] <amnith> My whole computer freezes after playing a youtube video for a while. I can move the mouse, but everything else is unresponsive.
[23:47] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: rehi! I have anoter challenge for your powers !! ;-) do you have any idea what might be causing the secondary monitor to go blank most of the time ? after the login that is
[23:47] <geekmasterflash> amnith, I had this same issue.
[23:47] <geekmasterflash> amnith, I thought it was my graphics card
[23:47] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Ended up being my processor
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: what desktop environment are you using? and did you modify any settings in compiz?
[23:48] <barbapappa_> its a mint ubuntu 13.10 install today
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: what way is the monitor connected?
[23:48] <ikonia> errr "mint ubuntu"...there is no such thing
[23:48] <hitsujiTMO> !mint | barbapappa_
[23:48] <zykotick9> ikonia: +1
[23:48] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: VGA port on the laptop
[23:48] <barbapappa_> I mean no fidling with the install
[23:48] <zelrik> hi
[23:48] <zelrik> how to force recovery mode
[23:48] <barbapappa_> bugged right out of the box
[23:49] <barbapappa_> is is NOT linux mint
[23:49] <barbapappa_> sorry to confue you
[23:49] <ikonia> then why did you just say it was ubuntu mint
[23:49] <ikonia> what is ubuntu mint ?
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[23:49] <barbapappa_> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[23:49] <k1l> barbapappa_: please ask the mint support. they fiddel alot with xorg, mesa and other stuff. they know best what is going on on their system
[23:49] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: do you mean mint as in clean?
[23:50] <barbapappa_> yes
[23:50] <barbapappa_> :)
[23:50] <zelrik> the shift key trick doesnt work
[23:50] <barbapappa_> bugged right from the start
[23:50] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: for example, after solving last problem , and upon first login... the secndary monitor comes up just fine ! but after a while, it goes blank (I have changed monitors so it's not a monitor problem)
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: what processor do you have?
[23:50] <pfifo> looks like there is something such as a  mint ubuntu
[23:50] <barbapappa_> video chip or cpu ?
[23:50] <amnith> I'm back. My computer froze again.
[23:51] <geekmasterflash> amnith, When it freezes can you press cntl+alt+f1?
[23:51] <pfifo> amnith: what are the specs of your computer?
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: thats a bit of an odd one. is it going blank after a period of inactivity? say 2 mins?
[23:51] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: mind if is PM you quickly?
[23:51] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: sure
[23:51] <barbapappa_> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz
[23:51] <amnith> My computer specs are 1tb hd, intel g45/43 chipset graphics, and 6gb ram.
[23:52] <geekmasterflash> amnith, What about your processor?
[23:52] <amnith> When It freezes, I can't do anything. I have to hard reset.
[23:52] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: I don't have a precise pattern down...
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: i think your issue might be do do with you gpu not being able to handle compiz
[23:52] <barbapappa_> yes thats my guess also
[23:52] <Spr1ng> thanks barbapappa_ thanks, now i have the babar theme tune stuck in my head.
[23:52] <barbapappa_> anyway to uninstall it to try ?
[23:52] <amnith> My processor is a pentium dual core 3.20 ghz
[23:52] <ianorlin> there are other window managers
[23:52] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Is anything overclocked?
[23:52] <amnith> no
[23:53] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: but yah maybe after the screen saver comes up, or both screens go off, then, when I wake them, only the main (laptop) one comes up again, the secondary remains blanked
[23:53] <onca> While, I have dmraid installed enabled and loaded, my OCz Revodrive x2 cant be found, is it broken?
[23:53] <pfifo> amnith: how did you install flash?
[23:53] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Is it just flash videos, or have you had this happen when playing games or other graphics intensive things?
[23:53] <amnith> On ubuntu, I didn't install flash because I saw that It was already installed.
[23:53] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: your best bet is to try xubuntu or lubuntu even. how much ram do you have
[23:54] <bekks> onca: dmraid has nothing to do with OCz Revodrive x2.
[23:54] <Xgates> ahhh I closed my browser by mistake and lost that URL someone gave me for changing grub for Nvidia, who was that who gave me the link? I need it again... :(
[23:54] <amnith> No, I don't have any problems playing games on my computer. I also have windows 8 and I never have a problem with it freezing during video.
[23:54] <pfifo> amnith: what is the output of 'lsb_release -cs'
[23:54] <Beldar> amnith, Are uou doing hard shut downs, and if so how many so far?
[23:54] <Beldar> you*
[23:54] <onca> oh? someone told me to install dmraid to get it to work, properly.
[23:55] <onca> bekks, why would this card not be visible?
[23:55] <Spr1ng> onca: is it visible in the bios?
[23:55] <amnith> Beldar I only do it when I need to. I've probably done it like 4 times now.
[23:55] <glitsj16> Xgates: you mean this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1994067&p=11993109#post11993109 ?
[23:55] <onca> nope.. as far as I can tell
[23:55] <barbapappa_> Mem:           993        883        110
[23:55] <Spr1ng> then dmraid will never see it
[23:55] <amnith> pfifo I don't know how to do check that.
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: what it may be is that there's a dim timer thats kicking in and it goes to dim the screen but you monitor does not react kindly to it. have a look in system settings -> brightness & lock
[23:55] <Xgates> glitsj16: YEAH thanks m8
[23:55]  * Xgates bookmarks
[23:56] <glitsj16> Xgates: heh
[23:56] <Beldar> amnith, Sure, however hard shutdown can mess up the OS, just a heads up, it only takes one to do it.
[23:56] <pfifo> amnith: open a terminal and type it in, then press enter
[23:56] <Xgates> cheers
[23:56] <glitsj16> no worries
[23:56] <Xgates> later guys
[23:56] <barbapappa_> What is the most slim ubuntu distro ?
[23:56] <amnith> It said saucy.
[23:56] <zykotick9> barbapappa_: lubuntu
[23:56] <hitsujiTMO> barbapappa_: lubuntu would be the one to try
[23:56] <pfifo> barbapappa_: ubuntu-server
[23:56] <geekmasterflash> barbapappa_, Probably lubuntu or ubuntu server
[23:56] <bekks> onca: If I get it correctly, it is just a SATA controller, with a bunch of RAM?
[23:57] <pfifo> amnith: and it came with flash? how did you install ubuntu?
[23:57] <onca> bekks, its a 220GB ssd
[23:57] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: btw, feel free to PM anytime ;)
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: lol diito :P
[23:57] <bekks> onca: And why are you trying dmraid, and how do you "search" for that ssd?
[23:57] <hitsujiTMO> ditto*
[23:58] <onca> bekks, somone told me to, in here earlier.
[23:58] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: ok, I've turned screen dimming off... I'll wait and see what happens...
[23:58] <amnith> I download 13.04 from the website and installed it into a cd. I updated to 13.10. I've been having this problem since 12.10 though.
[23:58] <barbapappa_> Ok, ty for your support ill head over to lubuntu and give that a try
[23:58] <bekks> onca: dmraid has nothing to do with it.
[23:58] <zelrik> damn I keep forgeting my old laptop's password
[23:58] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: thanks for the suggestion
[23:58] <Beldar> !reisub | amnith
[23:58] <Spr1ng> onca: you may find more suitable support over at #reddit-buildapc
[23:58] <hitsujiTMO> adanoob: if thats not it then i'm out of ideas
[23:59] <bekks> onca: basically, dont listen to him.
[23:59] <adanoob> hitsujiTMO: no worries
[23:59] <geekmasterflash> amnith, I recently had a similar issue. I couldn't REISUB to bring it back, nor drop to to console. Happened when I was using flash and listening to music at the same time
[23:59] <pfifo> zelrik: thats ok cause you can boot into recovery mode and get a root shell without giving a password, and from there you can easilly change the password for the systems user accounts ^^
[23:59] <geekmasterflash> amnith, However, it was fine in windows
[23:59] <geekmasterflash> amnith, My solution was pretty drastic: I had to flash the bios