[07:58] <dholbach> good morning
[09:07] <Mirv> bzoltan1: tsdgeos: after lp:~aacid/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/no_two_qapps_same_time getting that one fixed but more test failures exist https://launchpadlibrarian.net/157570125/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.ubuntu-ui-toolkit_1%3A0.1.46%2B14.04.20131118-0~858~ubuntu14.04.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:08] <Mirv> regarding layouts
[09:08] <tsdgeos> Mirv: wrong link?
[09:08] <tsdgeos> Mirv: this one is the one with
[09:08] <tsdgeos> QFATAL : tst_UCArguments::testNoArguments(NO ARGUMENTS) ASSERT failure in QCoreApplication: "there should be only one application object", file kernel/qcoreapplication.cpp, line 699
[09:09] <tsdgeos> which is what my branch fixes
[09:09] <Mirv> sorry, yes
[09:09] <Mirv> tsdgeos: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/157869464/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-armhf.ubuntu-ui-toolkit_1%3A0.1.46%2B14.04.20131126.1-0ubuntu1~870~ubuntu14.04.1%2Bfixqt52~test1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[09:10] <tsdgeos> Mirv: interesting, what do you want to do, open a new bug? reopen the existing one?
[09:10] <Mirv> tsdgeos: I'll open a new one, makes things less confusing
[09:10] <tsdgeos> +1
[09:11] <Mirv> bug #1256235
[09:11] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1256235 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Layout tests failing in ui-toolkit when building against Qt 5.2" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256235
[09:54] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Electronic Greetings Day! :-D
[10:19] <ogra_> popey, do you have an idea if we will ever see the docviewer app enter the store ?
[10:19]  * ogra_ is close to write his own pdf viewer
[10:19] <popey> it should.. yes.
[10:19] <popey> but hey, multiple doc viewers aren't a bad thing ☻
[10:19] <ogra_> lol
[10:20] <ogra_> i just want to be able to read my ebooks without having to convert them to html all the time
[10:21] <popey> beru is nice
[10:21] <popey> but that's epub only
[10:22] <ogra_> right, doesnt help me ... all my ebooks are pdf
[10:22] <ogra_> (and i ave a few 100)
[10:23] <ogra_> also i think beru doesnt allow rotation lock ... kind of essential if you read sideways in bed
[10:24] <popey> file bugs / patches welcome etc
[10:24] <popey> its on github
[10:26]  * ogra_ sighs ... 
[10:27] <ogra_> i think my grouper battery is giving up
[12:52] <seb128> hey sdk friends, question for you
[12:52] <seb128> I've a  ListItem.ItemSelector {} I'm using with a list that goes over the screen
[12:53] <seb128> does using "containerHeight: height" seems the right thing to do?
[12:53] <seb128> shouldn't that be the default?
[12:53] <seb128> (that would make scrolling work out of the box, where it doesn't at the moment)
[13:35] <t1mp> seb128: ask nic-doffay
[13:35] <seb128> t1mp, let's see if he replies to your ping an join the channel ;-) (thanks for pinging him btw)
[14:44] <seb128> nic-doffay__, hey
[14:45] <nic-doffay__> seb128, what's up
[14:47] <seb128> nic-doffay__, I've a  ListItem.ItemSelector {} I'm using with a list that goes over the screen
[14:47] <seb128> does using "containerHeight: height" seems the right thing to do?
[14:47] <seb128> shouldn't that be the default?
[14:47] <seb128> (that would make scrolling work out of the box, where it doesn't at the moment)
[14:48] <nic-doffay__> seb128, containerHeight is the height of the ListView by default.
[14:48] <nic-doffay__> Unless you set a custom height.
[14:48] <nic-doffay__> Which then enables scrolling inside the selector.
[14:49] <seb128> wouldn't it make sense to have it being the height of the ItemSelector by default?
[14:49] <seb128> so scrolling works out of the box?
[14:49] <seb128> what's the point of making it > to the visible content?
[14:52] <nic-doffay__> seb128, by default the containerHeight is the height of all the options in the ListView.
[14:52] <nic-doffay__> The height of the ItemSelector can change.
[14:53] <seb128> nic-doffay__, right, but why? shouldn't it be the height of the visible part (so scrolling works)?
[14:53] <nic-doffay__> seb128, I'm not sure what you mean by the visible part.
[14:54] <seb128> nic-doffay__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494365/ doesn't work as it should
[14:54] <seb128> nic-doffay__, e.g you can scroll down the list
[14:54] <seb128> nic-doffay__, it works if you add "containerHeight: height" ... but that's not obvious/appdev friendly
[14:55] <seb128> why can't that be the default value so the example works, including scrolling?
[14:55] <seb128> sorry, I might be overlooking something obvious
[14:55] <hikiko-lpt> hello :)
[14:55] <seb128> nic-doffay__, can->can't scroll, sorry
[14:56] <hikiko-lpt> anybody with free time to help me a little with a few general qml/qtcreator questions?
[15:00] <nic-doffay__> seb128, I'll take a look in a test app quickly...
[15:00] <t1mp> hikiko-lpt: just ask, and see if someone answers :)
[15:01] <seb128> nic-doffay__, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494365/
[15:01] <seb128> nic-doffay__, that's my test app
[15:01] <seb128> nic-doffay__, thanks ;-)
[15:02] <hikiko-lpt> well I've seen that wiki explains a lot about qml but I wonder if there's any documentation on the basics, for example :) I imported the gallery app to the qtcreator and I can't figure out how to use the qml analyzer and what is it for
[15:04] <nic-doffay__> seb128, that use case is interesting you're right, scrolling should be enabled then. A check of the parent's height would have to be made.
[15:05] <nic-doffay__> hikiko-lpt, I've never used the analyzer yet.
[15:06] <seb128> nic-doffay__, what wouldn't work if the default was containerHeight = height?
[15:06] <seb128> nic-doffay__, sorry, I'm just trying to understand why it needs to be the height of the elements
[15:06] <nic-doffay__> seb128, there was a reason, I'm just trying to recall, it's been a while.
[15:07] <nic-doffay__> seb128, I'll get back to you soon. With a  concrete response.
[15:07] <nic-doffay__> It might be I was wrong.
[15:09] <seb128> nic-doffay__, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1256356
[15:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1256356 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "ListItem.ItemSelector, scrolling doesn't work by default" [Undecided,New]
[15:09] <nic-doffay__> seb128, ah the reason it's set to what it is, is because the height of the actual OptionSelector is set to the column
[15:09] <nic-doffay__> The column includes the label and spacing.
[15:11] <seb128> nic-doffay__, label and spacing of what?
[15:11] <nic-doffay__> seb128, the optionselector is a column.
[15:11] <nic-doffay__> Which includes the label above the ListView.
[15:11] <hikiko-lpt> mmm cool there's a qtcreator doc that has everything :D
[15:12] <nic-doffay__> There is a spacing between the label and the ListView container.
[15:13] <seb128> nic-doffay__, oh, I see
[15:13] <seb128> nic-doffay__, so it should be "heigth - label_height - spacing"?
[15:14] <nic-doffay__> seb128, that's probably preferable yeah. I just hadn't taken into consideration this use case when I was doing it!
[15:14] <seb128> nic-doffay__, anyway, filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1256356, thanks for considering it ;-)
[15:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1256356 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "ListItem.ItemSelector, scrolling doesn't work by default" [Undecided,New]
[15:15] <nic-doffay__> seb128, thanks for filing it!
[15:15] <seb128> Laney, ^ btw
[15:16] <Laney> seb128: decent, thanks
[15:16] <seb128> yw
[15:35] <dholbach> hey popey - so I'm slightly rearranging and adding speaker notes to the content we have for the app dev school events right now - I'm done with the talk dpm gave at Øredev and was wondering if (we split it up properly) it was something we'd also want to screencast? (http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/tmp/apps-presentations/Ubuntu,%20the%20new%20force%20in%20mobile.odp)
[15:36] <dholbach> you have more experience with screencast and suggested we should keep them down to 5 minutes each
[15:36] <dholbach> so I wasn't quite sure
[15:38] <popey> yeah, that sounds reasonable
[15:39] <dholbach> popey, ok, so I'll take a look and see how we can break it up into digestible pieces and bring it up in a mail
[15:39] <popey> awesome
[15:40] <dholbach> popey, mhall119: I noticed https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-app-devel/ isn't really used much
[15:41] <popey> i didnt realise it existed
[15:41] <dholbach> I was wondering if we should use it for discussions like this, so folks could probably get involved with things like the app dev school materials and stuff
[15:41] <dholbach> as the info doesn't drown in loads of other things like on ubuntu-touch
[15:41] <dholbach> err
[15:41] <dholbach> ubuntu-phone, sorry
[15:42] <popey> do we know how many people are on that list?
[15:43] <dholbach> mhall119, ^ do you have access for ubuntu-app-devel or do we have to ask David? :)
[15:44] <mhall119> dholbach: I don't think I do
[15:44] <dholbach> I'll mail dpm then
[15:45] <dholbach> thanks mhall119
[16:36] <nic-doffay__> seb128, you know that use case where you did containerHeight: height
[16:37] <nic-doffay__> that's not working for me as I suspected.
[16:37] <nic-doffay__> It's just setting the height of the selector as itself?
[16:37] <nic-doffay__> nothing happens...
[16:37] <seb128> nic-doffay__, the example I pastebined work with "containerHeight: height", you can scroll down the list
[16:37] <seb128> not for you?
[16:38] <nic-doffay__> seb128, I think the actually height calculation is a problem too.
[16:38] <nic-doffay__> It should be set to the height of the parent, what are your thoughts?
[16:39] <seb128> nic-doffay__, that wouldn't work in a column?
[16:39] <seb128> e.g
[16:39] <seb128> Standar
[16:39] <seb128> Standard
[16:39] <nic-doffay__> seb128, no it wouldn't...
[16:39] <nic-doffay__> that's the thing.
[16:39] <seb128> ItemSelector
[16:49] <nic-doffay> seb128, fixed
[16:49] <nic-doffay> I'll try get it landed on Monday.
[16:50] <seb128> nic-doffay, thanks!
[16:54] <nic-doffay> seb128, mind giving the branch a spin and leaving a comment?
[16:59] <seb128> nic-doffay, sure, I can do that
[17:00] <nic-doffay> seb128, thanks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1256356
[17:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1256356 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "ListItem.ItemSelector, scrolling doesn't work by default" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[17:00] <nic-doffay> branch is linked there.
[17:00] <seb128> great
[17:40] <seb128> nic-doffay, that branch doesn't work
[17:40] <seb128> file:///usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ListItems/ItemSelector.qml:154: ReferenceError: label is not defined
[17:59] <nic-doffay> seb128, yeah the label id was missing from the ItemSelector.
[17:59] <nic-doffay> seb128, I'd really like to merge those two classes, egh.
[18:10] <labsin> popey, Was the Falling Blocks app any good on the phone?
[18:16] <seb128> nic-doffay, still not working fine, it's buggy in the case there is no "text" (e.g no title)
[18:26] <nic-doffay> seb128, argh forgot about that use case. I'll have to look into it on monday.
[19:08] <aquarius> marcoceppi, ping about discourse and juju and azure
[20:28] <aquarius> marcoceppi, brief note: "juju add relation discourse postgresql:db-admin" in http://marcoceppi.com/2013/07/deploying-discourse-in-production-lessons-learned/ should be add-relation. I was a bit shocked at first :)