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TechieElfanyone here know how to customize boot.img to recognize the partitions of my device?00:35
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Crimson_RogueHello. I'm getting errors when I try to compile ubuntu-touch. Could someone tell me what's wrong please?01:16
Crimson_Roguehttp://pastebin.com/zvjpJYyZ01:16
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nixmhello02:20
nixmim looking for a tablet that would work with ubuntu 1302:20
nixmthat i could load the current ubuntu onto it and use linux video editing tools like openshot on the field for video production work02:21
nixmany suggestions02:21
nixmandriod 4.1 tablet02:21
nixm?02:21
RobbyFnone that i'm aware of02:34
RobbyFor wait, I think there is a dell tablet that will work with ubuntu02:34
nixmRobbyF so nothing particular popular on the floor right now that i could pick up tomorrow and format the drive and install ubuntu02:46
RobbyFnothing I've seen.02:47
RobbyFmaybe others have02:47
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nixmRobbyF thanks :)02:49
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dholbachgood morning08:10
Mirvdholbach: click 0.4.12 for saucy/raring/quantal/precise in SDK PPA. I copied 0.4.11 to ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/experimental in case some problem is found that I didn't see in the quick smoke test.08:10
Mirvand morning08:10
dholbachMirv, awesome08:10
dholbach:)08:10
dholbachMirv, jppiiroi1en had started some work integrating the click-reviewers-tools into the SDK, so I added the c-r-t daily builds to the staging ppa - do you think it'd make sense to copy them over to the release ppa every now and then? or is the package not really used yet?08:12
Mirvdholbach: better ask bzoltan1, I don't really know08:13
Mirvgood to have daily builds anyhow somewhere, and yes manual copy of a smoketested one is probably better than straight build in the release ppa08:14
dholbachMirv, it doesn't change very often and it's been very stable08:17
dholbachMirv, but yeah, I'll ask bzoltan108:19
bzoltan1dholbach:  I am here08:47
dholbachbzoltan1, so yeah - like I said above... I'm not sure if the integration of click-reviewers-tools ever landed officially in the SDK08:47
dholbachso I'm not sure how much sense it makes to copy the package from staging to release ppa08:48
bzoltan1dholbach:  let me check it08:51
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Mirvdholbach: it's in the SDK, but I don't know if it works without manually setting the path to "/usr" in setting (which I seem to have, which probably means it worked with that setting found by experimentation)09:26
Mirvso, sure it's more WIP09:26
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dholbachMirv, ok, gotcha09:41
pittitvoss_, kalikiana_, jibel: meeting in 7 mins?09:53
tvoss_pitti, yup09:53
jibelpitti, yes09:54
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_randomcppis there any api (ready or planned) to access ubuntu camera?10:35
pittikalikiana_, tvoss_: I updated my notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/sensors-testing FYI10:49
tvoss_pitti, thanks :)10:49
pittikalikiana_, tvoss_: finally some administrative stuff: I'd like to transform this into work items; is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-sensor-service still relevant, or should I just stuff it into my "catch-all" https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-t-upstream-test-development ?10:50
tvoss_pitti, I would think the work items fit better into the testing bp10:50
pittitvoss_: WFM; just wanted to know if you want to track it someplace else10:51
tvoss_pitti, nope, all good :)10:51
pittitvoss_: ok, added11:03
t1mpdoes someone have suggestions on how to revive a galaxy nexus that seems dead?11:10
t1mpI just had it charge for 24h with two different chargers and cables, but the device does nothing. screen off and no vibrations11:11
t1mpI tried holding all the buttons for 20s11:11
t1mpadb doesn't see it.11:11
davmor2Morning all11:11
t1mpand when I plug it into my computer, the kernel doesn't even see that something happens11:11
t1mpdavmor2: good morning to you too11:11
davmor2t1mp: did you remove the battery and put it back in again?11:12
t1mpdavmor2: yes11:13
davmor2t1mp: daft question you didn't have the lead plugged in at the time though right?11:14
t1mpI think not11:15
t1mpbut I'll try again to be sure.11:15
t1mpwow.11:18
t1mpdavmor2: I removed the battery before, but now I kept it out for a minute or so before I put it back.11:18
t1mpat least the screen works (says Google)11:18
t1mpwhee :)11:18
t1mpand my kernel sees a usb device when I connect it :)11:19
davmor2t1mp: yeah if you leave the lead in the phone still gets power so remains in the locked state11:21
davmor2I found that one out the hard way too, so you are not alone :)11:21
t1mpdavmor2: the lead was out when I tried previously11:23
t1mpdavmor2: but I always took out the battery for a second before putting it back.11:23
t1mpdavmor2: leaving it out for a few minutes helps :)11:23
t1mpthanks :)11:23
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janimoogra_, rsalveti do you know if which one is the nexus 4 kernel tree? The branches on kernel.ubuntu.com seem to be 6 months old11:35
ogra_janimo, should be tagged mako ... beyond that you have to ask the kernel team11:42
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xnoxjanimo: ubuntu-trusty should have branches, mako should be one of them.11:51
janimoxnox, thanks, found it11:51
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rsalvetijanimo: yeah, they are all branches of the ubuntu-trusty tree now12:38
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TechieElfAny porters here? I need someone to help me customize my boot.img so it can read my device's partition table12:57
TechieElfHashcode, you're definitely experienced, would you happen to know how?13:00
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popeypete-woods: could you please look at bug 1253593 ?13:51
ubot5bug 1253593 in hud (Ubuntu) "hud memory usage grows over time" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125359313:51
popeyI'm at 4 days...13:52
popey 3989 alan      20   0 2095m 467m 1764 S   5.3  5.9 108:53.05 hud-service13:52
pete-woodspopey: wow, that's pretty awful13:52
pete-woodspopey: there's already something in the plan for this, a significant rework of the HUD service13:55
TechieElfcan anyone explain to me what exactly the problem is with my boot loop? I have the last_kmsg in a paste13:55
pete-woodsas it's about as water tight as a sieve at the moment13:55
TechieElfhttp://pastebin.com/8ZQLixZv13:56
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BlackwizardHi.. I want to buy a tablet and I would like to install ubuntu on it...14:01
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TechieElfBlackwizard: The Nexus 7 or B&N Nook Tablet would be a good choice14:01
Blackwizarddo you have any suggestion for me?14:01
Blackwizardis it supported on nexus 7 completely?14:03
TechieElfBlackwizard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE&usp=sharing#gid=0 read there for what is and is not working14:04
TechieElfBlackwizard, the B&N Nook Tablet seems to be fully supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/acclaim14:04
Blackwizard_Do you have any other suggestion to buy a tablet that support ubuntu touch?14:11
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frecelpopey: hi14:12
popeyyo14:12
Blackwizard_anybody test ubuntu touch on tablet?14:12
frecelwhat version of ubuntu are you running on your phone?14:12
popeyBlackwizard_: currently we support the nexus 7 and nexus 1014:12
popeyfrecel: i have two phones...14:13
Blackwizard_full supported?14:13
popeyfrecel: running image #32 on one, and #37 on the other14:14
popeybasically one is running the devel channel and the other is running the devel-proposed14:14
popeyBlackwizard_: depends what you mean by "fully supported"14:14
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frecelI'm running 13.10 (just followed this http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install) and I'm having a ton of issues with it14:15
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freceland I'm wondering if there is something more stable out there14:16
popeyBlackwizard_: we only support the 2012 nexus 7 not the 2013 one at the moment14:16
freceland before you ask, yes, I will submit bug reports once I have time to sit down and replicate everything14:16
popeyhah14:16
popeyyou know me so well14:16
popeywell, 13.10 is a bit old now14:17
popeywe've built about 30 newer images than that since then14:17
Blackwizard_popey: any other suggestion to buy a tablet supports ubuntu touch?14:19
frecelthe most annoying issue I'm having is that the audio playback stops when the music player is running in the background or when I turn off the screen14:19
popeyBlackwizard_: currently, as I said, Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 10.14:20
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popeyfrecel: thats fixed14:20
frecelawesome14:20
frecelso where do I find a newer image to flash my phone with?14:20
JamesTaitIn the Time & Date panel in System Settings, I see the correct time, but the incorrect time zone (BST instead of GMT).  Anyone else in Europe/London timezone seeing the same?14:25
Blackwizard_I want to buy nexus 2013 but I want be sure that supports ubuntu14:25
frecelBlackwizard_: you just have to bug popey about it every day until they start supporting it14:26
popeyfrecel: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=trusty14:26
popeyJamesTait: mine says Etc\UTC14:27
Blackwizard_I should pay for supportin ubuntu touch...14:27
popeyJamesTait: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-11-29-142737.png14:27
Blackwizard_what about other models?14:27
popey!devices | Blackwizard_14:28
ubot5Blackwizard_: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices14:28
frecelwhat? you can take screenshots too?14:28
JamesTaitpopey, sorry, I didn't explain that well.14:28
frecelthat 13.10 image is waaaaay behind14:28
JamesTaitpopey, where you have Etc/UTC..UTC+0 I have Europe/London..UTC+014:29
JamesTaitpopey, at the bottom of the screen, where you have $date_time UTC, I have $date_time BST.14:29
popeyJamesTait: i probably never set that on this phone14:29
popeylemme check the other one14:29
popeyyes14:30
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-11-29-142959.png14:30
popeythats the other one which is my main phone14:30
JamesTaitRight, not just me then.14:30
popeybug time14:30
JamesTaitIndeed. :)14:30
JamesTaitpopey, are you raising it or shall I?14:30
popeyfeel free14:30
* popey is debugging an overheating laptop14:31
JamesTaitI'll let you know the lp#14:31
popeyta14:31
popeyadd the above screenshot if you like14:31
frecelalso, you may want to know that it has begun... http://polishedperspective.com/14:32
JamesTaitpopey, yeah, it does a far better job of describing the problem than I did. :-P14:32
popeyfrecel: nice14:33
frecelI will have to talk you into doing a hangout one day so I have something to post when I don't feel like writing14:34
frecelpopey: Gotta go it a free breakfast at the company meeting now, thanks for helping me out with this14:36
JamesTaitpopey, lp#125634114:38
JamesTaitOh, no bot in here.14:38
Laneybug #125634114:38
ubot5bug 1256341 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Incorrect timezone displayed in System Settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125634114:38
JamesTaitAh, different syntax. Thanks Laney. ::)14:39
Laneywtf14:40
Laneythat has to be a Qt bug14:40
Laneyhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/time-date/PageComponent.qml#L8014:42
Laneythat is the code to display the time there14:42
JamesTaitNo idea. I leave the smart people to figure that stuff out, I just break stuff. :)14:42
Laneyone sec14:43
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Laneythere we go15:03
Laneyu-s-s is innocent of all charges15:03
cwayne_cjwatson, hey, any chance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1253855 is on your radar?  it's currently blocking account-plugins as clicks15:06
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1253855 in click (Ubuntu) "unlink_force fails on directories, making it impossible to pass dirs to click hooks" [Undecided,New]15:06
JamesTaitLaney, because...?  Qt bug?15:07
JamesTaitOr human bug? ;)15:07
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LaneyJamesTait: Qt :P15:08
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cjwatsoncwayne_: I'm working on urgent GRUB bugs this week and probably a portion of next15:14
cjwatsoncwayne_: It's on my radar, yes, but no further advanced than the last two times you asked about it :-)15:14
Laneycan I link lp bugs to qt upstream bugs?15:28
seb128Laney, I don't think so15:29
Laneynod15:29
seb128Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/15748815:30
ubot5Ubuntu bug 157488 in Launchpad itself "Add bugwatch support for the JIRA bugtracker" [High,Triaged]15:30
Laneyack15:32
Laneyjust commented with the url then15:33
seb128Cimi, can you top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/fix-for-3.10/+merge/196920 ?15:41
seb128Cimi, thanks15:49
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Saviqogra_, hey, you ever got to how Ursinha lost her upstart session?16:22
Saviqogra_, I think I just had the same, and there was a /usr/bin/init .crash file16:23
UrsinhaSaviq, no, xnox guided me through collecting info and filed a bug16:23
Ursinhalet me find it16:23
SaviqUrsinha, I *think* it might stem from upstart crashing16:23
alex____hello16:24
alex____i want to install ubuntu "mobile"16:24
alex____my phone is java16:24
UrsinhaSaviq, bug 125556916:24
ubot5bug 1255569 in upstart (Ubuntu) "session-init-less session-init session" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125556916:24
xnoxSaviq: Ursinha didn't have a crash file. If you have one, please attach it to bug 125556916:25
Saviqxnox, right, not any more ;(16:25
xnox*sigh* how did you get there? =)16:25
alex____oh :(16:25
Saviqalex____, devices Ubuntu can be installed on are listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices16:25
xnoxSaviq: as in the crash?16:25
Saviqxnox, a lot of unity8 ap tests16:26
Saviqxnox, will be doing more of that16:26
xnoxSaviq: if there are any init crash files please copy/store them =)16:26
alex____tank`s16:27
alex____i waiting for this16:27
Saviqxnox, yeah, was too trigger-happy on rm /var/crash/* :/16:27
Saviqxnox, was too late when I noticed it16:27
Saviqand connected the dots16:28
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WebbyITEhi rsalveti :-) Shall I use some of your photos of emulator on G+ for an article for Ubuntu Italy website? :-)16:51
ogra_WebbyIT, he is gone until monday ...16:53
WebbyITogra_, ok, thanks, so I have to find another source16:54
ogra_WebbyIT, feel free to use http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/edge-emu-landscape.png or http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/edge-emu.png16:54
ogra_(this is effectively how it will look soon by default as well)16:54
WebbyITwow, thanks :)16:55
ogra_(probably with views of the sides added to provide volume and power buttons16:55
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cwayne_ogra_, is there a way to emulate the power button in the emulator today?17:35
ogra_i think there si a key combo ... but given that powerd is forcefully enabled when gennerating the emulator image (since it breaks stuff) ... not sure what you want to do with it17:36
ogra_s/si/is/17:36
cwayne_ogra_, i wanted to test adding infographic sources, which is ont he lockscreen, which is shown when you poweron the phone17:37
ogra_cwayne_, seems ot be F7 according to http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html17:38
cwayne_ogra_, thanks17:41
lopsgood morning17:49
lopsi'm having problems connecting a nexus 7 to and enterprise wifi (eduroam). does anybody have any tips on this?17:50
lopsthe nexus 7 is running ubuntu phone of course17:50
ogra_lops, do you happen to have an ubuntu laptop in the same wlan ? if so you can install phablet-tools on it and use phablet-network to copy the wlan config over USB17:52
lopsthanks! I do have that :)17:52
lopsogra_, my wlan profiles were not copied to the tablet :/17:59
cwayne_mardy, heya, any progress on getting u-s-s-o-a looking for qml-plugins in a <click-id> dir?18:23
zhbfvuvabar87r  YOU MAY BE WATCHED18:26
zhbfvuvabar87rWARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING18:26
zhbfvuvabar87rWARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING18:26
zhbfvuvabar87r YOU MAYWATCHED18:26
zhbfvuvabar87rYOU MAY BE WATCHED18:26
zhbfvuvabar87r   YOU MAY BE WATCHED18:26
cwayne_lolwut18:28
lopsyou can watch me any time18:37
lopswink. wink.18:37
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lopsanyone had any luck with wpa-eap in ubuntu touch?19:10
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sergiusenslops, doesn't eap require certs and such to be installed on the device as well?19:27
sergiusenslops, I think the network manager profile would have an entry pointing to them19:28
sergiusenslops, just make sure they're on the device as well19:28
lopsthe GUI doesn't do anything. i copied the configs from my laptop to the phone19:28
davmor2hey guys will side stage be available on grouper?19:29
sergiusensdavmor2, I am almost 99.999% sure it won't19:29
sergiusensdavmor2, not enough room for a stage19:29
sergiusenslops, I wouldn't mind with the GUI19:29
sergiusenslops, you copied the configs, but did you copy the keys?19:30
lopshm, where can i find them?19:30
davmor2sergiusens: that's what I thought then I held my phone across it's width and it looked doable at that point hence asking :)19:30
lopssergiusens, the phone will connct to  open networks (guest network), so that could be it19:31
sergiusenslops, look in the config you said you copied, should be in there19:31
mardycwayne_: nope, I've been busy on other stuff19:31
lopssergiusens, no keys, only configs and my login19:33
sergiusenslops, eap has many extensions19:34
sergiusenslops, if you know how to manually connect from the desktop; you can most likely do the same from the device19:34
sergiusenslops, I'm no eap expert btw19:34
lopssergiusens, thanks for the help19:35
sergiusenslops, but your config should look similar to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1215767#p121576719:35
sergiusenswith entries such as ca-cert=19:35
sergiusensthose need to be on the device19:35
lopssergiusens, was that password obfuscated? should my password be in plaintext like that?19:41
gr72Hey guys, I'm trying to install Touch on my samsung galaxy tab 10.1. I'm trying to unlock my tablet by using the fastboot eom unlock, but when I do fasboot devices, my tab isn't seen. But it is seen by adb. Any help? (sys - Arch)19:43
sergiusenslops, it's read only by root19:43
lopssergiusens, thx, i'll try that19:43
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jaceknhello. Is ther any way to go back to previous screen other that using bottom edge swipe and tapping "back"? I find it a bit slow to use20:04
jaceknand it is inconsistent - when I go back to the main screen of an app there is no more "back", I would expect it to be there and take me to the home screen20:05
TechieElfCan someone help me with a boot loop? I've been at it for days now20:18
TechieElfLook, I know I'm not an accredited member of the Ubuntu Touch community, but I do need help. Can someone please spare me 5 minutes of their time to help solve this boot loop problem?20:21
BeldarTechieElf, If someone is on and feels they know generally they will help.20:29
Beldardetails are the key here though20:29
TechieElfBeldar: Well, between IRC and the mailing list I've cried my little heart out with details. I have the last_kmsg and it seems that the partitions aren't successfully mounting, followed by a kernel panic.20:31
TechieElfBeldar, I blame the unfinished porting guide because in the TODO there is "Describe how to customize boot.img for the partitions of the device" which is exactly my issue20:35
BeldarTechieElf, it is a development, and customizing that is a bit of a stretch, in the end with linux you have to know what your doing.20:36
Beldarlearning by failure is par for course. ;)20:36
TechieElfI'm (clearly) not an experience linux user, but I haven't had a problem porting until now. This pesky boot loop is the bane of my existence.20:37
TechieElfexperienced*20:37
dobeyTechieElf: for one thing, it's the weekend already in europe time zones, and a holiday weekend in the US. many people are just not around today, and likely won't be for the rest of the weekend. begging isn't going to change that :)20:57
TechieElfdobey: I'm in the US and (not so) surprisingly, not as many people as you would think actually spend the whole weekend celebrating Thanksgiving/Black Friday sales shopping. I also have been at IRC and spamming the mailing list all week with this problem :p20:59
dobeyTechieElf: spamming doesn't help either. it will only make people want to filter you to /dev/null :)21:00
TechieElfdobey: I know, but sadly not a soul on this IRC or following the mailing list has replied to me outside of the past few minutes. Sadly, I know exactly how to fix the problem I just need to know how to find the file that I need to change..21:02
dobeyi don't know21:03
dobeyi do know that most all the people who i have to ping for my current issues, are offline due to aforementioned time zones and holidays21:03
TechieElfI am experiencing the same problem, but I've been here since 12:00 PM ET on Wednesday and no one has been available that knows how to help me. I guess I'm on my own.. again.21:05
dobeyjacekn: no, that is the toolbar for the app, not a general system thing.21:10
jacekndobey: hmmm OK it seems very inconsistent21:11
dobeyi don't think it's inconsistent. it is a bit inconvenient though21:12
jaceknanother inconsistency is with settings. For example terminal app has settings link at the top in the header. Shorts app has some options in the bottom toolbar21:12
dobeyjacekn: file bugs then if you think so. irc is not the best place to discuss it21:13
jacekndobey: it is inconsistent from the user perspective, if swipe from the bottom + tap on back button works in the app I (user) expect same behavior all the way through. But I understand what you say about system vs app21:13
dobeyit does go all the way through the app. once you are at the top of the app there is no more back to go back to21:13
jacekndobey: yes I am going to (added note to one already). Just not sure what the best plast is to report this UI things21:13
dobeyjacekn: in launchpad against the apps21:14
jaceknthey are not strictly speaking bugs, more of my personal thoughts21:14
dobeyui bugs are bugs21:14
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