[00:35] <TechieElf> anyone here know how to customize boot.img to recognize the partitions of my device?
[01:16] <Crimson_Rogue> Hello. I'm getting errors when I try to compile ubuntu-touch. Could someone tell me what's wrong please?
[01:16] <Crimson_Rogue> http://pastebin.com/zvjpJYyZ
[02:20] <nixm> hello
[02:20] <nixm> im looking for a tablet that would work with ubuntu 13
[02:21] <nixm> that i could load the current ubuntu onto it and use linux video editing tools like openshot on the field for video production work
[02:21] <nixm> any suggestions
[02:21] <nixm> andriod 4.1 tablet
[02:21] <nixm> ?
[02:34] <RobbyF> none that i'm aware of
[02:34] <RobbyF> or wait, I think there is a dell tablet that will work with ubuntu
[02:46] <nixm> RobbyF so nothing particular popular on the floor right now that i could pick up tomorrow and format the drive and install ubuntu
[02:47] <RobbyF> nothing I've seen.
[02:47] <RobbyF> maybe others have
[02:49] <nixm> RobbyF thanks :)
[08:10] <dholbach> good morning
[08:10] <Mirv> dholbach: click 0.4.12 for saucy/raring/quantal/precise in SDK PPA. I copied 0.4.11 to ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/experimental in case some problem is found that I didn't see in the quick smoke test.
[08:10] <Mirv> and morning
[08:10] <dholbach> Mirv, awesome
[08:10] <dholbach> :)
[08:12] <dholbach> Mirv, jppiiroi1en had started some work integrating the click-reviewers-tools into the SDK, so I added the c-r-t daily builds to the staging ppa - do you think it'd make sense to copy them over to the release ppa every now and then? or is the package not really used yet?
[08:13] <Mirv> dholbach: better ask bzoltan1, I don't really know
[08:14] <Mirv> good to have daily builds anyhow somewhere, and yes manual copy of a smoketested one is probably better than straight build in the release ppa
[08:17] <dholbach> Mirv, it doesn't change very often and it's been very stable
[08:19] <dholbach> Mirv, but yeah, I'll ask bzoltan1
[08:47] <bzoltan1> dholbach:  I am here
[08:47] <dholbach> bzoltan1, so yeah - like I said above... I'm not sure if the integration of click-reviewers-tools ever landed officially in the SDK
[08:48] <dholbach> so I'm not sure how much sense it makes to copy the package from staging to release ppa
[08:51] <bzoltan1> dholbach:  let me check it
[09:26] <Mirv> dholbach: it's in the SDK, but I don't know if it works without manually setting the path to "/usr" in setting (which I seem to have, which probably means it worked with that setting found by experimentation)
[09:26] <Mirv> so, sure it's more WIP
[09:41] <dholbach> Mirv, ok, gotcha
[09:53] <pitti> tvoss_, kalikiana_, jibel: meeting in 7 mins?
[09:53] <tvoss_> pitti, yup
[09:54] <jibel> pitti, yes
[10:35] <_randomcpp> is there any api (ready or planned) to access ubuntu camera?
[10:49] <pitti> kalikiana_, tvoss_: I updated my notes on http://pad.ubuntu.com/sensors-testing FYI
[10:49] <tvoss_> pitti, thanks :)
[10:50] <pitti> kalikiana_, tvoss_: finally some administrative stuff: I'd like to transform this into work items; is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-sensor-service still relevant, or should I just stuff it into my "catch-all" https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-t-upstream-test-development ?
[10:50] <tvoss_> pitti, I would think the work items fit better into the testing bp
[10:51] <pitti> tvoss_: WFM; just wanted to know if you want to track it someplace else
[10:51] <tvoss_> pitti, nope, all good :)
[11:03] <pitti> tvoss_: ok, added
[11:10] <t1mp> does someone have suggestions on how to revive a galaxy nexus that seems dead?
[11:11] <t1mp> I just had it charge for 24h with two different chargers and cables, but the device does nothing. screen off and no vibrations
[11:11] <t1mp> I tried holding all the buttons for 20s
[11:11] <t1mp> adb doesn't see it.
[11:11] <davmor2> Morning all
[11:11] <t1mp> and when I plug it into my computer, the kernel doesn't even see that something happens
[11:11] <t1mp> davmor2: good morning to you too
[11:12] <davmor2> t1mp: did you remove the battery and put it back in again?
[11:13] <t1mp> davmor2: yes
[11:14] <davmor2> t1mp: daft question you didn't have the lead plugged in at the time though right?
[11:15] <t1mp> I think not
[11:15] <t1mp> but I'll try again to be sure.
[11:18] <t1mp> wow.
[11:18] <t1mp> davmor2: I removed the battery before, but now I kept it out for a minute or so before I put it back.
[11:18] <t1mp> at least the screen works (says Google)
[11:18] <t1mp> whee :)
[11:19] <t1mp> and my kernel sees a usb device when I connect it :)
[11:21] <davmor2> t1mp: yeah if you leave the lead in the phone still gets power so remains in the locked state
[11:21] <davmor2> I found that one out the hard way too, so you are not alone :)
[11:23] <t1mp> davmor2: the lead was out when I tried previously
[11:23] <t1mp> davmor2: but I always took out the battery for a second before putting it back.
[11:23] <t1mp> davmor2: leaving it out for a few minutes helps :)
[11:23] <t1mp> thanks :)
[11:35] <janimo> ogra_, rsalveti do you know if which one is the nexus 4 kernel tree? The branches on kernel.ubuntu.com seem to be 6 months old
[11:42] <ogra_> janimo, should be tagged mako ... beyond that you have to ask the kernel team
[11:51] <xnox> janimo: ubuntu-trusty should have branches, mako should be one of them.
[11:51] <janimo> xnox, thanks, found it
[12:38] <rsalveti> janimo: yeah, they are all branches of the ubuntu-trusty tree now
[12:57] <TechieElf> Any porters here? I need someone to help me customize my boot.img so it can read my device's partition table
[13:00] <TechieElf> Hashcode, you're definitely experienced, would you happen to know how?
[13:51] <popey> pete-woods: could you please look at bug 1253593 ?
[13:52] <popey> I'm at 4 days...
[13:52] <popey>  3989 alan      20   0 2095m 467m 1764 S   5.3  5.9 108:53.05 hud-service
[13:52] <pete-woods> popey: wow, that's pretty awful
[13:55] <pete-woods> popey: there's already something in the plan for this, a significant rework of the HUD service
[13:55] <TechieElf> can anyone explain to me what exactly the problem is with my boot loop? I have the last_kmsg in a paste
[13:55] <pete-woods> as it's about as water tight as a sieve at the moment
[13:56] <TechieElf> http://pastebin.com/8ZQLixZv
[14:01] <Blackwizard> Hi.. I want to buy a tablet and I would like to install ubuntu on it...
[14:01] <TechieElf> Blackwizard: The Nexus 7 or B&N Nook Tablet would be a good choice
[14:01] <Blackwizard> do you have any suggestion for me?
[14:03] <Blackwizard> is it supported on nexus 7 completely?
[14:04] <TechieElf> Blackwizard: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE&usp=sharing#gid=0 read there for what is and is not working
[14:04] <TechieElf> Blackwizard, the B&N Nook Tablet seems to be fully supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/acclaim
[14:11] <Blackwizard_> Do you have any other suggestion to buy a tablet that support ubuntu touch?
[14:12] <frecel> popey: hi
[14:12] <popey> yo
[14:12] <Blackwizard_> anybody test ubuntu touch on tablet?
[14:12] <frecel> what version of ubuntu are you running on your phone?
[14:12] <popey> Blackwizard_: currently we support the nexus 7 and nexus 10
[14:13] <popey> frecel: i have two phones...
[14:13] <Blackwizard_> full supported?
[14:14] <popey> frecel: running image #32 on one, and #37 on the other
[14:14] <popey> basically one is running the devel channel and the other is running the devel-proposed
[14:14] <popey> Blackwizard_: depends what you mean by "fully supported"
[14:15] <frecel> I'm running 13.10 (just followed this http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install) and I'm having a ton of issues with it
[14:16] <frecel> and I'm wondering if there is something more stable out there
[14:16] <popey> Blackwizard_: we only support the 2012 nexus 7 not the 2013 one at the moment
[14:16] <frecel> and before you ask, yes, I will submit bug reports once I have time to sit down and replicate everything
[14:16] <popey> hah
[14:16] <popey> you know me so well
[14:17] <popey> well, 13.10 is a bit old now
[14:17] <popey> we've built about 30 newer images than that since then
[14:19] <Blackwizard_> popey: any other suggestion to buy a tablet supports ubuntu touch?
[14:19] <frecel> the most annoying issue I'm having is that the audio playback stops when the music player is running in the background or when I turn off the screen
[14:20] <popey> Blackwizard_: currently, as I said, Nexus 7 (2012) and Nexus 10.
[14:20] <popey> frecel: thats fixed
[14:20] <frecel> awesome
[14:20] <frecel> so where do I find a newer image to flash my phone with?
[14:25] <JamesTait> In the Time & Date panel in System Settings, I see the correct time, but the incorrect time zone (BST instead of GMT).  Anyone else in Europe/London timezone seeing the same?
[14:25] <Blackwizard_> I want to buy nexus 2013 but I want be sure that supports ubuntu
[14:26] <frecel> Blackwizard_: you just have to bug popey about it every day until they start supporting it
[14:26] <popey> frecel: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=trusty
[14:27] <popey> JamesTait: mine says Etc\UTC
[14:27] <Blackwizard_> I should pay for supportin ubuntu touch...
[14:27] <popey> JamesTait: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-11-29-142737.png
[14:27] <Blackwizard_> what about other models?
[14:28] <popey> !devices | Blackwizard_
[14:28] <frecel> what? you can take screenshots too?
[14:28] <JamesTait> popey, sorry, I didn't explain that well.
[14:28] <frecel> that 13.10 image is waaaaay behind
[14:29] <JamesTait> popey, where you have Etc/UTC..UTC+0 I have Europe/London..UTC+0
[14:29] <JamesTait> popey, at the bottom of the screen, where you have $date_time UTC, I have $date_time BST.
[14:29] <popey> JamesTait: i probably never set that on this phone
[14:29] <popey> lemme check the other one
[14:30] <popey> yes
[14:30] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2013-11-29-142959.png
[14:30] <popey> thats the other one which is my main phone
[14:30] <JamesTait> Right, not just me then.
[14:30] <popey> bug time
[14:30] <JamesTait> Indeed. :)
[14:30] <JamesTait> popey, are you raising it or shall I?
[14:30] <popey> feel free
[14:31]  * popey is debugging an overheating laptop
[14:31] <JamesTait> I'll let you know the lp#
[14:31] <popey> ta
[14:31] <popey> add the above screenshot if you like
[14:32] <frecel> also, you may want to know that it has begun... http://polishedperspective.com/
[14:32] <JamesTait> popey, yeah, it does a far better job of describing the problem than I did. :-P
[14:33] <popey> frecel: nice
[14:34] <frecel> I will have to talk you into doing a hangout one day so I have something to post when I don't feel like writing
[14:36] <frecel> popey: Gotta go it a free breakfast at the company meeting now, thanks for helping me out with this
[14:38] <JamesTait> popey, lp#1256341
[14:38] <JamesTait> Oh, no bot in here.
[14:38] <Laney> bug #1256341
[14:39] <JamesTait> Ah, different syntax. Thanks Laney. ::)
[14:40] <Laney> wtf
[14:40] <Laney> that has to be a Qt bug
[14:42] <Laney> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/time-date/PageComponent.qml#L80
[14:42] <Laney> that is the code to display the time there
[14:42] <JamesTait> No idea. I leave the smart people to figure that stuff out, I just break stuff. :)
[14:43] <Laney> one sec
[15:03] <Laney> there we go
[15:03] <Laney> u-s-s is innocent of all charges
[15:06] <cwayne_> cjwatson, hey, any chance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1253855 is on your radar?  it's currently blocking account-plugins as clicks
[15:07] <JamesTait> Laney, because...?  Qt bug?
[15:07] <JamesTait> Or human bug? ;)
[15:08] <Laney> JamesTait: Qt :P
[15:14] <cjwatson> cwayne_: I'm working on urgent GRUB bugs this week and probably a portion of next
[15:14] <cjwatson> cwayne_: It's on my radar, yes, but no further advanced than the last two times you asked about it :-)
[15:28] <Laney> can I link lp bugs to qt upstream bugs?
[15:29] <seb128> Laney, I don't think so
[15:29] <Laney> nod
[15:30] <seb128> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/157488
[15:32] <Laney> ack
[15:33] <Laney> just commented with the url then
[15:41] <seb128> Cimi, can you top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/fix-for-3.10/+merge/196920 ?
[15:49] <seb128> Cimi, thanks
[16:22] <Saviq> ogra_, hey, you ever got to how Ursinha lost her upstart session?
[16:23] <Saviq> ogra_, I think I just had the same, and there was a /usr/bin/init .crash file
[16:23] <Ursinha> Saviq, no, xnox guided me through collecting info and filed a bug
[16:23] <Ursinha> let me find it
[16:23] <Saviq> Ursinha, I *think* it might stem from upstart crashing
[16:24] <alex____> hello
[16:24] <alex____> i want to install ubuntu "mobile"
[16:24] <alex____> my phone is java
[16:24] <Ursinha> Saviq, bug 1255569
[16:25] <xnox> Saviq: Ursinha didn't have a crash file. If you have one, please attach it to bug 1255569
[16:25] <Saviq> xnox, right, not any more ;(
[16:25] <xnox> *sigh* how did you get there? =)
[16:25] <alex____> oh :(
[16:25] <Saviq> alex____, devices Ubuntu can be installed on are listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[16:25] <xnox> Saviq: as in the crash?
[16:26] <Saviq> xnox, a lot of unity8 ap tests
[16:26] <Saviq> xnox, will be doing more of that
[16:26] <xnox> Saviq: if there are any init crash files please copy/store them =)
[16:27] <alex____> tank`s
[16:27] <alex____> i waiting for this
[16:27] <Saviq> xnox, yeah, was too trigger-happy on rm /var/crash/* :/
[16:27] <Saviq> xnox, was too late when I noticed it
[16:28] <Saviq> and connected the dots
[16:51] <WebbyIT> Ehi rsalveti :-) Shall I use some of your photos of emulator on G+ for an article for Ubuntu Italy website? :-)
[16:53] <ogra_> WebbyIT, he is gone until monday ...
[16:54] <WebbyIT> ogra_, ok, thanks, so I have to find another source
[16:54] <ogra_> WebbyIT, feel free to use http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/edge-emu-landscape.png or http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/ubuntu-touch/edge-emu.png
[16:54] <ogra_> (this is effectively how it will look soon by default as well)
[16:55] <WebbyIT> wow, thanks :)
[16:55] <ogra_> (probably with views of the sides added to provide volume and power buttons
[17:35] <cwayne_> ogra_, is there a way to emulate the power button in the emulator today?
[17:36] <ogra_> i think there si a key combo ... but given that powerd is forcefully enabled when gennerating the emulator image (since it breaks stuff) ... not sure what you want to do with it
[17:36] <ogra_> s/si/is/
[17:37] <cwayne_> ogra_, i wanted to test adding infographic sources, which is ont he lockscreen, which is shown when you poweron the phone
[17:38] <ogra_> cwayne_, seems ot be F7 according to http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html
[17:41] <cwayne_> ogra_, thanks
[17:49] <lops> good morning
[17:50] <lops> i'm having problems connecting a nexus 7 to and enterprise wifi (eduroam). does anybody have any tips on this?
[17:50] <lops> the nexus 7 is running ubuntu phone of course
[17:52] <ogra_> lops, do you happen to have an ubuntu laptop in the same wlan ? if so you can install phablet-tools on it and use phablet-network to copy the wlan config over USB
[17:52] <lops> thanks! I do have that :)
[17:59] <lops> ogra_, my wlan profiles were not copied to the tablet :/
[18:23] <cwayne_> mardy, heya, any progress on getting u-s-s-o-a looking for qml-plugins in a <click-id> dir?
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r>   YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r> WARNING       WARNING      WARNING,                       WARNING
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r> WARNING             WARNING              WARNING,     WARNING         WARNING
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r>  YOU MAYWATCHED
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r> YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[18:26] <zhbfvuvabar87r>    YOU MAY BE WATCHED
[18:28] <cwayne_> lolwut
[18:37] <lops> you can watch me any time
[18:37] <lops> wink. wink.
[19:10] <lops> anyone had any luck with wpa-eap in ubuntu touch?
[19:27] <sergiusens> lops, doesn't eap require certs and such to be installed on the device as well?
[19:28] <sergiusens> lops, I think the network manager profile would have an entry pointing to them
[19:28] <sergiusens> lops, just make sure they're on the device as well
[19:28] <lops> the GUI doesn't do anything. i copied the configs from my laptop to the phone
[19:29] <davmor2> hey guys will side stage be available on grouper?
[19:29] <sergiusens> davmor2, I am almost 99.999% sure it won't
[19:29] <sergiusens> davmor2, not enough room for a stage
[19:29] <sergiusens> lops, I wouldn't mind with the GUI
[19:30] <sergiusens> lops, you copied the configs, but did you copy the keys?
[19:30] <lops> hm, where can i find them?
[19:30] <davmor2> sergiusens: that's what I thought then I held my phone across it's width and it looked doable at that point hence asking :)
[19:31] <lops> sergiusens, the phone will connct to  open networks (guest network), so that could be it
[19:31] <sergiusens> lops, look in the config you said you copied, should be in there
[19:31] <mardy> cwayne_: nope, I've been busy on other stuff
[19:33] <lops> sergiusens, no keys, only configs and my login
[19:34] <sergiusens> lops, eap has many extensions
[19:34] <sergiusens> lops, if you know how to manually connect from the desktop; you can most likely do the same from the device
[19:34] <sergiusens> lops, I'm no eap expert btw
[19:35] <lops> sergiusens, thanks for the help
[19:35] <sergiusens> lops, but your config should look similar to https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1215767#p1215767
[19:35] <sergiusens> with entries such as ca-cert=
[19:35] <sergiusens> those need to be on the device
[19:41] <lops> sergiusens, was that password obfuscated? should my password be in plaintext like that?
[19:43] <gr72> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Touch on my samsung galaxy tab 10.1. I'm trying to unlock my tablet by using the fastboot eom unlock, but when I do fasboot devices, my tab isn't seen. But it is seen by adb. Any help? (sys - Arch)
[19:43] <sergiusens> lops, it's read only by root
[19:43] <lops> sergiusens, thx, i'll try that
[20:04] <jacekn> hello. Is ther any way to go back to previous screen other that using bottom edge swipe and tapping "back"? I find it a bit slow to use
[20:05] <jacekn> and it is inconsistent - when I go back to the main screen of an app there is no more "back", I would expect it to be there and take me to the home screen
[20:18] <TechieElf> Can someone help me with a boot loop? I've been at it for days now
[20:21] <TechieElf> Look, I know I'm not an accredited member of the Ubuntu Touch community, but I do need help. Can someone please spare me 5 minutes of their time to help solve this boot loop problem?
[20:29] <Beldar> TechieElf, If someone is on and feels they know generally they will help.
[20:29] <Beldar> details are the key here though
[20:31] <TechieElf> Beldar: Well, between IRC and the mailing list I've cried my little heart out with details. I have the last_kmsg and it seems that the partitions aren't successfully mounting, followed by a kernel panic.
[20:35] <TechieElf> Beldar, I blame the unfinished porting guide because in the TODO there is "Describe how to customize boot.img for the partitions of the device" which is exactly my issue
[20:36] <Beldar> TechieElf, it is a development, and customizing that is a bit of a stretch, in the end with linux you have to know what your doing.
[20:36] <Beldar> learning by failure is par for course. ;)
[20:37] <TechieElf> I'm (clearly) not an experience linux user, but I haven't had a problem porting until now. This pesky boot loop is the bane of my existence.
[20:37] <TechieElf> experienced*
[20:57] <dobey> TechieElf: for one thing, it's the weekend already in europe time zones, and a holiday weekend in the US. many people are just not around today, and likely won't be for the rest of the weekend. begging isn't going to change that :)
[20:59] <TechieElf> dobey: I'm in the US and (not so) surprisingly, not as many people as you would think actually spend the whole weekend celebrating Thanksgiving/Black Friday sales shopping. I also have been at IRC and spamming the mailing list all week with this problem :p
[21:00] <dobey> TechieElf: spamming doesn't help either. it will only make people want to filter you to /dev/null :)
[21:02] <TechieElf> dobey: I know, but sadly not a soul on this IRC or following the mailing list has replied to me outside of the past few minutes. Sadly, I know exactly how to fix the problem I just need to know how to find the file that I need to change..
[21:03] <dobey> i don't know
[21:03] <dobey> i do know that most all the people who i have to ping for my current issues, are offline due to aforementioned time zones and holidays
[21:05] <TechieElf> I am experiencing the same problem, but I've been here since 12:00 PM ET on Wednesday and no one has been available that knows how to help me. I guess I'm on my own.. again.
[21:10] <dobey> jacekn: no, that is the toolbar for the app, not a general system thing.
[21:11] <jacekn> dobey: hmmm OK it seems very inconsistent
[21:12] <dobey> i don't think it's inconsistent. it is a bit inconvenient though
[21:12] <jacekn> another inconsistency is with settings. For example terminal app has settings link at the top in the header. Shorts app has some options in the bottom toolbar
[21:13] <dobey> jacekn: file bugs then if you think so. irc is not the best place to discuss it
[21:13] <jacekn> dobey: it is inconsistent from the user perspective, if swipe from the bottom + tap on back button works in the app I (user) expect same behavior all the way through. But I understand what you say about system vs app
[21:13] <dobey> it does go all the way through the app. once you are at the top of the app there is no more back to go back to
[21:13] <jacekn> dobey: yes I am going to (added note to one already). Just not sure what the best plast is to report this UI things
[21:14] <dobey> jacekn: in launchpad against the apps
[21:14] <jacekn> they are not strictly speaking bugs, more of my personal thoughts
[21:14] <dobey> ui bugs are bugs