| cid420 | how was everybody thanksgiving | 20:30 |
|---|---|---|
| Unit193 | Fairly good, just have the other side to do now. You? | 20:30 |
| belkinsa | My was fine. | 20:31 |
| belkinsa | Yours? | 20:31 |
| cid420 | crowded but fun | 20:31 |
| cid420 | had a 25 ob turkey with a 10 lb ham, hope everybody has gotten there fill | 20:31 |
| cid420 | lb turkey* | 20:31 |
| cid420 | I love the left overs | 20:32 |
| cid420 | damn dont you guys just love those Homemade Pies, now those are the best. | 20:34 |
| Unit193 | Only one type of pie I really like. | 20:34 |
| cid420 | which is | 20:34 |
| cid420 | pumpkin? | 20:34 |
| Unit193 | Aye. | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | The magic pie. | 20:35 |
| cid420 | mine is Mints meat pie | 20:35 |
| belkinsa | 3.14....? For some reason I wanted to say that. ;) | 20:35 |
| cid420 | lol | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | We also had "crack bread" a couple weeks ago for Thanksgiving, soooo good. (Poppy seed bread) | 20:37 |
| cid420 | that would be awesome | 20:38 |
| cid420 | we had rolls | 20:38 |
| cid420 | from the store | 20:38 |
| cid420 | this year my mother in law made homemade crandberry sauce , licks his lips | 20:40 |
| skellat | I'm glad I wasn't traveling this weekend: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/state/andrew-gans-of-kent-driver-in-deadly-125-mph-police-turnpike-chase-charged-with-vehicular-homicide | 20:51 |
| jenni | [ Andrew Gans of Kent, driver in deadly 125 mph police turnpike chase, charged with vehicular homicide ] - https://j.mp/1eH6I4D | 20:51 |
| belkinsa | Dang! People are well, people. | 20:51 |
| cid420 | i am running Ubuntu 12.04 on 4 boxes, 1 of them i am stumped, I know you not suppose to modifiy the resolve.conf file but some reason something is not allowing me to reach outside world. i keep getting not able to resolve host to www.google.com when i ping it | 21:29 |
| belkinsa | Ask in #ubuntu it's the support channel | 21:30 |
| Unit193 | /etc/resolv.conf is generated by nm, you can edit it in there and it'll save. | 21:30 |
| Unit193 | Try dig www.google.com and see what you get, if it's not what it should be, try dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com | 21:31 |
| cid420 | Belkinsa - Question what is this group all about, since it seems you cannot ask a quesstion unless you have got another channel and ask there.. I thought we could ask them here. Just trying to understand, that is why i joined this group is one of it is getting answers on questions. | 21:33 |
| belkinsa | I understand but this a LoCo channel where there is some support, #ubuntu is the main support channel | 21:34 |
| cid420 | ok i found the problem. i had to change the interfaces address, it will nto allow me to keep the ip static when i changed it to dhcp i am able to dig and ping the outside world. | 21:35 |
| cid420 | I understand, I am old style person when i join a group , you have experience folks that is willing to answering the questions, I understand the group is a LoCo. so you are saying i should ask all my questions in the Ubuntu channel from now on | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Should be able to set it to static, just need all the right info. If you copy the info from `nm-tool` while connected configured as dhcp, it should connect fine. You can also select "dhcp, addresses only" which permits you to set DNS still. | 21:37 |
| belkinsa | Not really, more like ask to both places...never mind. Sorry for my behavor. | 21:37 |
| Unit193 | Meh, I'm of the opinion that if it's not a question that'll take a ton of effort or time to do, may as well here. | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | However, do not crosspost. :P | 21:38 |
| belkinsa | Okay | 21:38 |
| cid420 | I will double check it.. the addresses | 21:38 |
| cid420 | but it is a good idea to join that channel anyways. | 21:38 |
| Unit193 | Perhaps, yes. I'm not in it nor do I plan to be. :P | 21:39 |
| cid420 | i agree, this is only a temporary for me.. i am an intermediate administrator something could come across i do not know . | 21:40 |
| Unit193 | My router will assign the same IPs to MACs it's seen before, so I don't need to bother with that. I could change the DNS in the router, but right now I have it set in the computers since I run a local bind9 T2. | 21:41 |
| cid420 | i would like to run my nameservers, but obtaining 2 ips address is expensive. my local cable company is selling them for 10 bucks a mth. there is alot of things i want to do to these servers but i am held back | 21:43 |
| cid420 | just 2 more servers and i can setup a cloud. | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | I have one setup at a remote location, and one on my server. I don't use the one on my server as a backup because it's a bit far away, but nevertheless. None of mine are open resolvers, but a couple are the authority for an old domain. | 21:44 |
| cid420 | not to shabby | 21:45 |
| cid420 | ever trying and goto www.myhosting.com i see to find them really cheap on there VPS servers | 21:45 |
| Unit193 | I also use a TLD that isn't used for internal purposes. :P (.go) | 21:46 |
| cid420 | when i get the extra money i think i am going back to them | 21:46 |
| cid420 | remind me what is TLD | 21:46 |
| Unit193 | If you do set one up, might want to check on their DNS policy. .com, .net, .org, or for me, .go. My nameservers also serve the OpenNIC zones. | 21:47 |
| cid420 | very nice | 21:47 |
| cid420 | something to think about | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | RoadRunner gives "fake" results like OpenDNS does, which is quite annoying if you ever use the terminal or generally, so of course I don't have anything like that. | 21:48 |
| Unit193 | You can also use an OpenNIC dns server, don't have to set one up yourself. | 21:48 |
| cid420 | true but I like to get my hands dirty | 21:49 |
| cid420 | right i am deciding on setting Zpanel for my Webserver box. i am researching it | 21:50 |
| cid420 | if anybody want to look into it. its www.zpanelcp.com | 21:51 |
| cid420 | ok installing the zpanel it says in there documentations that you need to have a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 and above no lamp install or dovecot an postfix. that is the heart of my emails for the loCo group | 21:55 |
| Unit193 | Erm, they require 10.04, or they haven't updated their docs in a while? | 21:56 |
| cid420 | yea it seems | 21:56 |
| cid420 | just maybe it will work on 12.04 an no need to update the docs. i can try this on my develpment server since i dont know a lamp install on that one | 21:57 |
| cid420 | know = have | 21:57 |
| cid420 | unit193 when i installed the network-manager then type nm-tool i get this error | 22:10 |
| cid420 | ** (process:17088): WARNING **: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files | 22:10 |
| cid420 | and this one | 22:11 |
| cid420 | ** (process:6749): WARNING **: error: could not connect to NetworkManager | 22:11 |
| cid420 | now when i installed it, i saw alot of gnome stuff being install, i dont that made any difference. | 22:12 |
| Unit193 | ...What are you using? | 22:14 |
| cid420 | what do you mean | 22:14 |
| cid420 | I am trying to use the nm-tool | 22:15 |
| Unit193 | Well, what desktop that you had to install it, I suppose I presumed you were using one of the stock flavors. :P | 22:15 |
| cid420 | I dont have any desktops installed. | 22:16 |
| cid420 | i have one in virtual mode | 22:16 |
| cid420 | that is kubuntu | 22:16 |
| Unit193 | Well, whoops. `ifconfig` will then show you your IP, netmask, broadcast, and gateway. | 22:17 |
| cid420 | true | 22:18 |
| cid420 | i use that alot | 22:18 |
| cid420 | is it a good idea to install desktops on the servers.. will that become unstable if i do | 22:19 |
| Unit193 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/54194 is the output from nm-tool, about the same. | 22:19 |
| Unit193 | I see no good reason to. | 22:19 |
| cid420 | kk | 22:19 |
| Unit193 | If so, do just a wm, not a de. | 22:20 |
| cid420 | windowmaker? | 22:21 |
| cid420 | not good with abbrevs | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | Window Manager, not Desktop Env. So, fluxbox, openbox, awesomewm rather than Xfce, LXDE, Gnome, KDE, etc. I don't have any of those though. :) | 22:22 |
| cid420 | ok i will look that | 22:23 |
| cid420 | is it minimal to use 6 computers to use cloud, or can you go fewer like four? | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | What do you mean? Are you looking at something like LTSP or somesuch? | 22:25 |
| Unit193 | (http://unit193.ninth.su/openbox/openbox-desktop.png is an example openbox shot.) | 22:25 |
| cid420 | I want to setup a cloud using openstack | 22:27 |
| cid420 | Unit193 - one thing about desktops i am not very well verse on getting programs working into them. LOL | 22:28 |
| Unit193 | I have never used openstack. :D | 22:31 |
| cid420 | which one do you use | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | I don't. | 22:35 |
| cid420 | ok | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | I don't have a cluster exactly, I generally manually assign different tasks to different ones. | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | "Manually" that is. | 22:36 |
| cid420 | oh you are that good :) | 22:39 |
| cid420 | ok #ubuntu doesnt impress me | 22:40 |
| cid420 | do you use webmin? | 22:41 |
| Unit193 | No, that one isn't recommended. And I never said I was good. :D | 22:43 |
| cid420 | would one would you recommend then since webmin isnt good | 22:51 |
| Unit193 | I can't remember what the recommended replacement was. :/ | 22:52 |
| cid420 | is it ispconfig? | 22:52 |
| cid420 | or Ebox | 22:56 |
| cid420 | here is one http://www.zentyal.org | 22:59 |
| jenni | [ Zentyal, the Linux Small Business Server ] - https://j.mp/1eHptVx | 22:59 |
| cid420 | lol | 23:00 |
| Unit193 | That's the one, IIRC. | 23:02 |
| cid420 | ok it is showing as a server, is there onlyu a web service like webmin you connect through a web browser | 23:03 |
| Unit193 | Well huh, it's in the repos of course but it seems to be showing as modules, weird. | 23:06 |
| cid420 | yea i am seeing it too.. i have add each individual module at a time if i want | 23:08 |
| Unit193 | So, nevermind. | 23:09 |
| cid420 | i am already in the middle of installing it.. | 23:09 |
| cid420 | i will mess with it | 23:09 |
| Unit193 | Hah, well alrighty. Have fun. | 23:10 |
| cid420 | well i foun d you can install of them at onces./ | 23:10 |
| cid420 | this command | 23:11 |
| cid420 | sudo apt-get install zentyal-all | 23:11 |
| cid420 | lol it doesnt provide a default login and password to get in | 23:13 |
| cid420 | nevermind i found it lol | 23:15 |
| cid420 | you use your own login account and password | 23:15 |
| cid420 | oh i am likinbg this one | 23:18 |
| cid420 | you can install all the modules inside zentyal | 23:18 |
| cid420 | ok i'll shutup now.. LOL | 23:19 |
| cid420 | reminder to myself do not install zentyal on a slow webserver.. it screwed everything up. cannot login through ssh, or get into my emails, nothing looks like i am going to redo everything and put it on my bigger system. | 23:56 |
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