[20:30] how was everybody thanksgiving [20:30] Fairly good, just have the other side to do now. You? [20:31] My was fine. [20:31] Yours? [20:31] crowded but fun [20:31] had a 25 ob turkey with a 10 lb ham, hope everybody has gotten there fill [20:31] lb turkey* [20:32] I love the left overs [20:34] damn dont you guys just love those Homemade Pies, now those are the best. [20:34] Only one type of pie I really like. [20:34] which is [20:34] pumpkin? [20:35] Aye. [20:35] The magic pie. [20:35] mine is Mints meat pie [20:35] 3.14....? For some reason I wanted to say that. ;) [20:35] lol [20:37] We also had "crack bread" a couple weeks ago for Thanksgiving, soooo good. (Poppy seed bread) [20:38] that would be awesome [20:38] we had rolls [20:38] from the store [20:40] this year my mother in law made homemade crandberry sauce , licks his lips [20:51] I'm glad I wasn't traveling this weekend: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/state/andrew-gans-of-kent-driver-in-deadly-125-mph-police-turnpike-chase-charged-with-vehicular-homicide [20:51] [ Andrew Gans of Kent, driver in deadly 125 mph police turnpike chase, charged with vehicular homicide ] - https://j.mp/1eH6I4D [20:51] Dang! People are well, people. [21:29] i am running Ubuntu 12.04 on 4 boxes, 1 of them i am stumped, I know you not suppose to modifiy the resolve.conf file but some reason something is not allowing me to reach outside world. i keep getting not able to resolve host to www.google.com when i ping it [21:30] Ask in #ubuntu it's the support channel [21:30] /etc/resolv.conf is generated by nm, you can edit it in there and it'll save. [21:31] Try dig www.google.com and see what you get, if it's not what it should be, try dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com [21:33] Belkinsa - Question what is this group all about, since it seems you cannot ask a quesstion unless you have got another channel and ask there.. I thought we could ask them here. Just trying to understand, that is why i joined this group is one of it is getting answers on questions. [21:34] I understand but this a LoCo channel where there is some support, #ubuntu is the main support channel [21:35] ok i found the problem. i had to change the interfaces address, it will nto allow me to keep the ip static when i changed it to dhcp i am able to dig and ping the outside world. [21:37] I understand, I am old style person when i join a group , you have experience folks that is willing to answering the questions, I understand the group is a LoCo. so you are saying i should ask all my questions in the Ubuntu channel from now on [21:37] Should be able to set it to static, just need all the right info. If you copy the info from `nm-tool` while connected configured as dhcp, it should connect fine. You can also select "dhcp, addresses only" which permits you to set DNS still. [21:37] Not really, more like ask to both places...never mind. Sorry for my behavor. [21:38] Meh, I'm of the opinion that if it's not a question that'll take a ton of effort or time to do, may as well here. [21:38] However, do not crosspost. :P [21:38] Okay [21:38] I will double check it.. the addresses [21:38] but it is a good idea to join that channel anyways. [21:39] Perhaps, yes. I'm not in it nor do I plan to be. :P [21:40] i agree, this is only a temporary for me.. i am an intermediate administrator something could come across i do not know . [21:41] My router will assign the same IPs to MACs it's seen before, so I don't need to bother with that. I could change the DNS in the router, but right now I have it set in the computers since I run a local bind9 T2. [21:43] i would like to run my nameservers, but obtaining 2 ips address is expensive. my local cable company is selling them for 10 bucks a mth. there is alot of things i want to do to these servers but i am held back [21:43] just 2 more servers and i can setup a cloud. [21:44] I have one setup at a remote location, and one on my server. I don't use the one on my server as a backup because it's a bit far away, but nevertheless. None of mine are open resolvers, but a couple are the authority for an old domain. [21:45] not to shabby [21:45] ever trying and goto www.myhosting.com i see to find them really cheap on there VPS servers [21:46] I also use a TLD that isn't used for internal purposes. :P (.go) [21:46] when i get the extra money i think i am going back to them [21:46] remind me what is TLD [21:47] If you do set one up, might want to check on their DNS policy. .com, .net, .org, or for me, .go. My nameservers also serve the OpenNIC zones. [21:47] very nice [21:48] something to think about [21:48] RoadRunner gives "fake" results like OpenDNS does, which is quite annoying if you ever use the terminal or generally, so of course I don't have anything like that. [21:48] You can also use an OpenNIC dns server, don't have to set one up yourself. [21:49] true but I like to get my hands dirty [21:50] right i am deciding on setting Zpanel for my Webserver box. i am researching it [21:51] if anybody want to look into it. its www.zpanelcp.com [21:55] ok installing the zpanel it says in there documentations that you need to have a fresh install of ubuntu 10.04 and above no lamp install or dovecot an postfix. that is the heart of my emails for the loCo group [21:56] Erm, they require 10.04, or they haven't updated their docs in a while? [21:56] yea it seems [21:57] just maybe it will work on 12.04 an no need to update the docs. i can try this on my develpment server since i dont know a lamp install on that one [21:57] know = have [22:10] unit193 when i installed the network-manager then type nm-tool i get this error [22:10] ** (process:17088): WARNING **: Could not initialize NMClient /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager: The name org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files [22:11] and this one [22:11] ** (process:6749): WARNING **: error: could not connect to NetworkManager [22:12] now when i installed it, i saw alot of gnome stuff being install, i dont that made any difference. [22:14] ...What are you using? [22:14] what do you mean [22:15] I am trying to use the nm-tool [22:15] Well, what desktop that you had to install it, I suppose I presumed you were using one of the stock flavors. :P [22:16] I dont have any desktops installed. [22:16] i have one in virtual mode [22:16] that is kubuntu [22:17] Well, whoops. `ifconfig` will then show you your IP, netmask, broadcast, and gateway. [22:18] true [22:18] i use that alot [22:19] is it a good idea to install desktops on the servers.. will that become unstable if i do [22:19] http://paste.openstack.org/show/54194 is the output from nm-tool, about the same. [22:19] I see no good reason to. [22:19] kk [22:20] If so, do just a wm, not a de. [22:21] windowmaker? [22:21] not good with abbrevs [22:22] Window Manager, not Desktop Env. So, fluxbox, openbox, awesomewm rather than Xfce, LXDE, Gnome, KDE, etc. I don't have any of those though. :) [22:23] ok i will look that [22:24] is it minimal to use 6 computers to use cloud, or can you go fewer like four? [22:25] What do you mean? Are you looking at something like LTSP or somesuch? [22:25] (http://unit193.ninth.su/openbox/openbox-desktop.png is an example openbox shot.) [22:27] I want to setup a cloud using openstack [22:28] Unit193 - one thing about desktops i am not very well verse on getting programs working into them. LOL [22:31] I have never used openstack. :D [22:32] which one do you use [22:35] I don't. [22:35] ok [22:36] I don't have a cluster exactly, I generally manually assign different tasks to different ones. [22:36] "Manually" that is. [22:39] oh you are that good :) [22:40] ok #ubuntu doesnt impress me [22:41] do you use webmin? [22:43] No, that one isn't recommended. And I never said I was good. :D [22:51] would one would you recommend then since webmin isnt good [22:52] I can't remember what the recommended replacement was. :/ [22:52] is it ispconfig? [22:56] or Ebox [22:59] here is one http://www.zentyal.org [22:59] [ Zentyal, the Linux Small Business Server ] - https://j.mp/1eHptVx [23:00] lol [23:02] That's the one, IIRC. [23:03] ok it is showing as a server, is there onlyu a web service like webmin you connect through a web browser [23:06] Well huh, it's in the repos of course but it seems to be showing as modules, weird. [23:08] yea i am seeing it too.. i have add each individual module at a time if i want [23:09] So, nevermind. [23:09] i am already in the middle of installing it.. [23:09] i will mess with it [23:10] Hah, well alrighty. Have fun. [23:10] well i foun d you can install of them at onces./ [23:11] this command [23:11] sudo apt-get install zentyal-all [23:13] lol it doesnt provide a default login and password to get in [23:15] nevermind i found it lol [23:15] you use your own login account and password [23:18] oh i am likinbg this one [23:18] you can install all the modules inside zentyal [23:19] ok i'll shutup now.. LOL [23:56] reminder to myself do not install zentyal on a slow webserver.. it screwed everything up. cannot login through ssh, or get into my emails, nothing looks like i am going to redo everything and put it on my bigger system.