| kbmonkey | morning | 04:49 |
|---|---|---|
| nuvolari | o/ aloha kbmonkey | 04:57 |
| kbmonkey | aloha nuvolari ! | 04:57 |
| kbmonkey | you know it is one of those days, when you wake up 2 hours before your alarm - you wake it up for a change! haha | 04:58 |
| kbmonkey | is it Thursday today? | 04:59 |
| kbmonkey | noes, it is Firday! | 04:59 |
| Kilos | good morning all. from a nice wet pretoria | 05:07 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 05:07 |
| kbmonkey | hello Kilos | 05:08 |
| Kilos | massive hail storm broke 1 windows and the rain gauge at 60mm so couldnt see how much fell | 05:08 |
| kbmonkey | nuvolari, I just realised my laptop has a windows logo on it's one button! | 05:08 |
| kbmonkey | I need to get it off asap | 05:08 |
| Kilos | then i emptied it and a second hail storm and another 8mm rain | 05:08 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:09 |
| kbmonkey | sjoe Kilos ! I saw your message from last night that the hail was coming | 05:09 |
| Kilos | tippex | 05:09 |
| kbmonkey | the udometer tops at 60mm and it filled up?! | 05:09 |
| Kilos | still patches of hail lying around | 05:09 |
| Kilos | its one of those plastic upside down cones | 05:10 |
| Kilos | big chip from 60mm to the top broken out | 05:10 |
| kbmonkey | sjoe Kilos that is a lot | 05:10 |
| Kilos | yeah cloud burst | 05:10 |
| kbmonkey | ah okay | 05:11 |
| kbmonkey | cars were sheltered okay? | 05:11 |
| Kilos | used to show to 200 i think | 05:11 |
| Kilos | will try find thew piece today | 05:11 |
| Kilos | ya cars sleep under roof | 05:11 |
| kbmonkey | thats good | 05:11 |
| Kilos | fruit trees stripped of leaves and fruit | 05:12 |
| Kilos | but we thankful for the rain | 05:12 |
| Kilos | now the weeds will flourish | 05:13 |
| * Kilos wonders how things are by inetpro | 05:13 | |
| kbmonkey | lo, yeah now the weeds are going to grow *big* | 05:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:24 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, if you cut a plastic bottle in half and put the top half upside-down into the lower half, you can make a new rain guage! | 05:27 |
| Kilos | it wont be acurate | 05:27 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 05:27 |
| Kilos | ill look for the missing piece, could find it in the hail last night, everything was white | 05:28 |
| kbmonkey | like the snow | 05:28 |
| Kilos | yeah and just as cold | 05:29 |
| Kilos | never saw hail like this in durbs | 05:29 |
| kbmonkey | ja does not hail here much | 05:30 |
| kbmonkey | more in maritzburg and midlands | 05:30 |
| Kilos | yeah | 05:30 |
| Kilos | you well lad? | 05:30 |
| kbmonkey | seen some heavy downfall in howick | 05:30 |
| kbmonkey | and past there, past tweedy, and kloof | 05:31 |
| kbmonkey | use to drive there each day | 05:31 |
| kbmonkey | on the farm. on bad wet days bakkie got stuck in the mud | 05:31 |
| kbmonkey | and get the tractor to come pull us out | 05:32 |
| kbmonkey | it was great | 05:32 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 05:32 |
| Kilos | that guy with jdk probs needs to install from here methinks kbmonkey | 05:35 |
| Kilos | http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ | 05:35 |
| Kilos | rusty the bear | 05:36 |
| Kilos | i think it installs jdk as well | 05:37 |
| kbmonkey | no, that does *not* install jdk. that is not even *java*, that is flash. lol | 05:39 |
| Kilos | oh is that al | 05:40 |
| Kilos | all | 05:40 |
| kbmonkey | yup. how did that link come about? | 05:41 |
| kbmonkey | I been using m.gmail.com lately | 05:41 |
| kbmonkey | mobile mail site. much faster | 05:42 |
| Kilos | my browsers wouldnt open stuff till i had installed oracle-java-something | 05:42 |
| Kilos | oracle-java7-installer | 05:43 |
| Kilos | then even opera worked | 05:43 |
| Kilos | http://fermi.la.asu.edu/ccli/applets/yagi/yagi.html button at the beginning wouldnt work till id installed oracle | 05:46 |
| kbmonkey | right Ill be back Kilos - work time | 05:50 |
| kbmonkey | have a good day friend | 05:50 |
| Kilos | you too kbmonkey | 05:55 |
| Kilos | hi bduk | 05:55 |
| bduk | Morning Kilos and everyone | 05:56 |
| Kilos | hi smilyborg mazal | 06:18 |
| Kilos | ohi sakhi | 06:18 |
| mazal | More oom | 06:18 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 06:18 |
| inetpro | Kilos: that was two massive storms | 06:18 |
| inetpro | lot's of hail in the later storm and power knocked out | 06:20 |
| smilyborg | Morning Kilos | 06:21 |
| Kilos | yeah inetpro how was the hail by you? | 06:21 |
| smilyborg | morning inetpro | 06:21 |
| Kilos | our big hail was first storm | 06:21 |
| Kilos | at least you got home before the hail. was a bit big for a biker to go through | 06:22 |
| inetpro | lot's of small hail in the 2nd storm, the first storm had just a bit of hail by my side | 06:22 |
| Kilos | ill post an image | 06:23 |
| inetpro | I wish I had a gopro or something like that, that storm looked incredible as it came over the mountain | 06:24 |
| inetpro | like one massive wave | 06:24 |
| inetpro | didn't want to loose time by stopping to take a photo | 06:25 |
| inetpro | but I wish I could have captured it | 06:25 |
| Kilos | http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img28/5684/frlt.jpg | 06:27 |
| Kilos | those bounced off the grass onto front veranda | 06:27 |
| Kilos | even broke a large lounge window | 06:28 |
| inetpro | Kilos: wow! | 06:30 |
| Kilos | aw i forgot to try the shutter thing | 06:31 |
| Kilos | sigh | 06:31 |
| Kilos | oh and broke the rain gauge above 60mm so didnt get an acurate reading | 06:32 |
| inetpro | we had 35mm | 06:33 |
| Kilos | for once we beat you | 06:33 |
| Kilos | we we we | 06:33 |
| Kilos | 60+ then 8 with secong hail storm | 06:33 |
| Kilos | s/secong/second | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:46 |
| Vince-0 | ! | 07:47 |
| Kilos | hmm... inetpro dit kom weer | 08:19 |
| inetpro | Kilos: weer 'n groot storm? | 08:24 |
| Kilos | besig om in te kom van die noorde net soos gister | 08:25 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 08:25 |
| Kilos | eish, this place and its power cuts | 09:11 |
| Kilos | Maaz, wb | 09:36 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend | 09:36 |
| nuvolari | oh hi oom Kilos | 10:12 |
| Kilos | hi nuvolari | 10:12 |
| Vince-0 | nuvolari, ! | 10:27 |
| charl | good afternoon | 11:04 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:04 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 11:04 | |
| charl | hi Kilos, nuvolari, Vince-0 | 11:04 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 11:04 |
| charl | how's it going Kilos | 11:04 |
| Kilos | ok ty and you | 11:05 |
| Kilos | my spped is up to 500kB/s noy mB/s | 11:05 |
| Kilos | s/noy/not | 11:05 |
| Kilos | mind was stupid yesterday | 11:06 |
| Vince-0 | what's up? Its Fraaday | 11:07 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 11:08 |
| inetpro | Kilos: you are lucky to have power | 11:09 |
| inetpro | been without power at home since last night | 11:09 |
| Kilos | wow inetpro still no power? | 11:10 |
| Kilos | ours came back at 5am | 11:10 |
| inetpro | Kilos: nope, still off | 11:18 |
| inetpro | they tell me the Woolmer power station is still down | 11:18 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:18 |
| inetpro | not sure whether we get power from there | 11:19 |
| inetpro | previously when that was down ours was up | 11:19 |
| Kilos | sjoe, was a serious storm hey | 11:19 |
| inetpro | sounds like they are spinning me a story again, though I don't blame them this time, with that storm | 11:20 |
| inetpro | was massive | 11:20 |
| charl | Kilos: i'm good thanks | 11:36 |
| charl | Kilos: 500mbps is about the realistic throughput i have on my desktop at work locally over gigabit ethernet and then through fibreglass upstream | 11:37 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 11:38 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 11:38 |
| charl | wb Kilos | 12:17 |
| Kilos- | sigh | 12:18 |
| Kilos- | just now my whole system will be an orphan inode | 12:19 |
| Kilos- | hi superfly | 12:19 |
| superfly | hi Kilos- | 12:20 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , enjoy your weekend | 12:44 |
| Kilos- | nearly weekend guys, be strong | 13:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos-: you have a tail | 13:36 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 13:36 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 13:36 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro! | 13:40 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 13:41 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 13:41 |
| Kilos- | ty inetpro | 13:55 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| Kilos | aw no coffee for me | 13:55 |
| Kilos | inetpro, weather cleared lots. will be tonight latish if it comes again | 13:56 |
| inetpro | Kilos: hoe lyk dinge daar buite? Ek sien sonskyn hier buite | 13:56 |
| inetpro | ah | 13:56 |
| Kilos | you got power there at home yet? | 13:57 |
| inetpro | nope | 13:57 |
| Kilos | sjoe you got gas stove and light? | 13:59 |
| Kilos | rev them | 14:00 |
| Kilos | inetpro, are you classed as tswane? | 14:02 |
| Kilos | customercare@tswane.gov.za | 14:03 |
| Kilos | 012 358 9999 | 14:04 |
| Kilos | and check if your neighbour is also powerless | 14:05 |
| inetpro | Kilos: eish! That storm caused lots of damage | 14:13 |
| Kilos | where else? | 14:13 |
| inetpro | some colleagues reporting that they are lucky to be alive | 14:14 |
| Kilos | wow what happened | 14:14 |
| inetpro | many homes without roofs | 14:14 |
| Kilos | oh my | 14:14 |
| Kilos | what area | 14:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: what bugs me most is that the Tshwane SMS line is kaputt by the looks of things | 14:16 |
| Kilos | fone them | 14:16 |
| Kilos | and email | 14:16 |
| Kilos | 012 358 9999 | 14:16 |
| inetpro | I reported at 22:42 last night via SMS | 14:17 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:17 |
| inetpro | got through eventually via phone at 12:45 | 14:17 |
| inetpro | now my call is in late | 14:17 |
| inetpro | according to them | 14:17 |
| inetpro | they have a number of backlogs | 14:18 |
| inetpro | so next time I know that we can't rely on the SMS line | 14:18 |
| inetpro | need a human person to give you a ref number | 14:19 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:19 |
| inetpro | can't believe how we have to struggle like this with such modern technologies | 14:20 |
| Kilos | mail their ceo's office | 14:20 |
| inetpro | you think it will help? | 14:20 |
| Kilos | you good at finding things | 14:20 |
| Kilos | yes he revs them from the top | 14:21 |
| Kilos | even fone and ask to talk to him | 14:21 |
| inetpro | I mailed customer care and don't even get a automated response let alone a human response | 14:21 |
| Kilos | ah that sometimes comes hours later | 14:21 |
| Kilos | fone him | 14:21 |
| Kilos | say no pap tonight | 14:22 |
| inetpro | I have work to dammit | 14:24 |
| Kilos | ai! | 14:25 |
| inetpro | Kilos: Apparently many homes in Shoshanguve are without roofs | 14:27 |
| inetpro | are badly damaged | 14:27 |
| inetpro | s/are/or/ | 14:27 |
| inetpro | it's that same storm that went over my house | 14:28 |
| inetpro | and over yours | 14:28 |
| inetpro | all the way from Randburg | 14:28 |
| Kilos | whew | 14:28 |
| Kilos | so we lucky then | 14:28 |
| inetpro | eish! | 14:32 |
| inetpro | read https://www.facebook.com/CityOfTshwane | 14:33 |
| inetpro | looks like we will have to be very patient | 14:33 |
| inetpro | "...It is anticipated that the power will be restored within three days maximum due to the towers having to be reconstructed and power to be restored..." | 14:34 |
| Kilos | wow | 14:35 |
| Kilos | where you see that on the page | 14:35 |
| inetpro | that was earlier | 14:35 |
| inetpro | https://www.facebook.com/CityOfTshwane/posts/581984098539350 | 14:35 |
| Kilos | ah | 14:36 |
| Kilos | looks like its building from the southwest again | 14:39 |
| Kilos | but slowly | 14:39 |
| inetpro | perhaps we should come up with a public fault reporting system that can handle the load more properly for them so they can focus on fixing things rather than wasting time on a broken fault reporting system | 14:41 |
| Kilos | the fault reporting is done by IT guys | 14:42 |
| Kilos | repairs i mean | 14:43 |
| inetpro | Kilos: the City of Tshwane call centre seems to me to be very very inefficient | 14:47 |
| inetpro | but maybe it is just my perception | 14:48 |
| Kilos | yes so no complaints get past along to the right peeps to fix them | 14:48 |
| inetpro | perhaps we just don't grasp the volume that goes through the system | 14:48 |
| Kilos | remember i had probs with all the power cuts till i mailed the ceo's office and or got him on twitter | 14:49 |
| Kilos | then they even came and cut trees along the line | 14:49 |
| Kilos | no its a lackadasical attitude | 14:49 |
| Kilos | whew | 14:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, spell lacksadasical | 14:50 |
| Maaz | Kilos: That doesn't seem correct, but I can't find anything to suggest | 14:50 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:50 |
| Kilos | laksadasical | 14:51 |
| Kilos | Maaz, spell laksadasical | 14:51 |
| Maaz | Kilos: That doesn't seem correct, but I can't find anything to suggest | 14:51 |
| Kilos | ai!anyway however its spelled it means slapgat | 14:52 |
| inetpro | lackadaisical | 14:52 |
| inetpro | feeling or showing a lack of interest or enthusiasm | 14:52 |
| Kilos | ya | 14:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz, spell lackadaisical | 14:53 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Looks good to me | 14:53 |
| Kilos | yay | 14:53 |
| inetpro | :-) | 14:53 |
| inetpro | what ceo did you email? | 14:54 |
| Kilos | aw i didnt even do my weekly smileys | 14:54 |
| Kilos | city of tswane | 14:54 |
| Kilos | i think i got him on twitter too but he didnt answer , the next morning their office mailed me | 14:55 |
| inetpro | The City Manager? | 14:55 |
| Kilos | it had to be passed from department to department and i got all the mails | 14:55 |
| Kilos | um | 14:55 |
| Kilos | whew 2 years back man | 14:56 |
| inetpro | Jason Ngobeni? | 14:56 |
| Kilos | mail him or tweet him | 14:56 |
| inetpro | or the Executive Mayor? | 14:56 |
| Kilos | maybe | 14:57 |
| Kilos | i told you back then | 14:57 |
| Kilos | the boss | 14:57 |
| inetpro | ai! | 14:57 |
| inetpro | it's a mega city man | 14:57 |
| Kilos | whats that | 14:58 |
| inetpro | there's no ceo like vodacom | 14:59 |
| Kilos | well tweet @JasonNgobeni | 14:59 |
| Kilos | and look for mail addies maybe here | 15:00 |
| Kilos | http://www.tshwane.gov.za/AboutTshwane/CityManagement/OfficeofCityManager/Pages/Key-Staff--Listing.aspx | 15:00 |
| Kilos | lemme go boot to maverick. if i have the mail addy it will be there | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ai! i deleted all the mails here | 15:05 |
| Kilos | will go look at gmail | 15:05 |
| Kilos | google sick too | 15:13 |
| Kilos | cant get to google.com | 15:14 |
| Kilos | grrr | 15:14 |
| Kilos | i go back to unity | 15:14 |
| Kilos | hi Private_User Xethron | 16:06 |
| Kilos | inetpro, i only see that same support addy | 16:07 |
| Private_User | hey Kilos | 16:14 |
| kbmonkey | evening 0/ | 17:43 |
| Kilos | yo my monkey | 17:43 |
| kbmonkey | hello oom! | 17:43 |
| kbmonkey | phew that was a long day! | 17:43 |
| Kilos | hey | 17:43 |
| kbmonkey | even got some gym in | 17:43 |
| Kilos | good | 17:44 |
| kbmonkey | yes | 17:44 |
| psychicist | evening kbmonkey | 17:46 |
| psychicist | hi Kilos | 17:46 |
| psychicist | hi tinuva | 17:46 |
| psychicist | brb | 17:46 |
| kbmonkey | hi psychicist | 17:47 |
| Kilos | hi tinuva psychicist | 17:48 |
| Kilos | eish kbmonkey did you see, the pro could be without power for 3 days | 17:51 |
| Kilos | thats a major suck methinks | 17:52 |
| kbmonkey | eina that is nasty kilos! things in the fridge will have to get eaten! | 17:54 |
| Kilos | yeah and freezer stuff will be lost if not moved to another one soon | 17:54 |
| Kilos | and cold bath | 17:55 |
| Kilos | eeeek | 17:55 |
| kbmonkey | why is that happening? | 17:55 |
| Kilos | major storms here last night | 17:55 |
| Kilos | lotsa damage | 17:56 |
| kbmonkey | wow! | 17:56 |
| kbmonkey | I did not know the pro was nearby you | 17:56 |
| Kilos | about 20 ks i think | 17:57 |
| Kilos | maybe less if you a crow | 17:57 |
| Kilos | he wont give me his co-ords | 18:01 |
| Kilos | scared i nuke him | 18:01 |
| kbmonkey | ja you probably can too! | 18:04 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:04 |
| kbmonkey | or build a super powered radio antenna and fry his brain | 18:04 |
| Kilos | no shame he helped me too much | 18:05 |
| kbmonkey | ja I know | 18:08 |
| Kilos | hi not_found sorry didnt see you sneak in | 18:12 |
| inetpro | Yay! | 18:58 |
| * inetpro has the power again | 18:58 | |
| inetpro | Good evening | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Kilos: slaap jy al? | 19:00 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: eh, how goes it? | 19:01 |
| kbmonkey | hi inetpro - it goes well man. and there? | 19:02 |
| kbmonkey | had a long day, woke up early, worked, went to gym, and now relaxing with a beer. magic times! | 19:03 |
| inetpro | nice! | 19:03 |
| kbmonkey | ja - trying to build up some weight ;) | 19:03 |
| inetpro | Kilos: I sent an email to citymanager@tshwane.gov.za earlier, hoping that he will respond in due time | 19:06 |
| Kilos | oyay | 19:06 |
| Kilos | lol i wonder if he made them work harder inetpro ? | 19:07 |
| Kilos | so no cold bath tonight. i bet the family is happy | 19:08 |
| inetpro | of course :-) | 19:08 |
| kbmonkey | oh that is good to hear! | 19:09 |
| kbmonkey | you know I really enjoyed our open discussion we had at the meeting | 19:09 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:09 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: you want another one like that? | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | we should try get together this monday eve to do the same - unoffical and not recorded by maaz | 19:10 |
| inetpro | we can announce them any time | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | maybe for december - see how it goes | 19:10 |
| Kilos | hey i wanna rock the boat again | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | yeah, any time actually | 19:10 |
| kbmonkey | cos with the normal meetings it seems not enough talking happens | 19:11 |
| Kilos | if we move away from mondays maia can join us | 19:11 |
| kbmonkey | but when people think its open for discussion, things happen | 19:11 |
| kbmonkey | Oh really? that would be nice to have her again | 19:11 |
| inetpro | well you can even talk now, though it's always best to have people to listen as well | 19:11 |
| Kilos | inetpro, are you listening | 19:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: obviously | 19:12 |
| Kilos | you didnt shoot me down | 19:12 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 19:12 |
| kbmonkey | I bought a subscription to the new linux voice magazine! | 19:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: call maia now and tell her to talk to us | 19:13 |
| Kilos | how do i call her now? | 19:13 |
| inetpro | don't you have super cow powers? | 19:13 |
| Kilos | i think she said mondays and thursdays are out for her | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | lol! | 19:13 |
| Kilos | rofl | 19:13 |
| kbmonkey | apt-get moo | 19:13 |
| Kilos | first inetpro are you prepared for us to change the day then ill tell maia | 19:14 |
| inetpro | Kilos: no | 19:14 |
| Kilos | see | 19:14 |
| inetpro | :) | 19:15 |
| Kilos | what do you do tuesday nights | 19:15 |
| kbmonkey | keep the official meeting unchanged. lets just try have a friendly get together | 19:15 |
| inetpro | Kilos: remember superfly said he can't make it on Tuesdays | 19:15 |
| Kilos | ok wed | 19:15 |
| kbmonkey | ^ good | 19:15 |
| inetpro | let's be honest, we can't just change the date and time randomly as we please, not good to do that | 19:16 |
| kbmonkey | nope | 19:16 |
| Kilos | we ahve so far without any hassles | 19:16 |
| inetpro | we need to have predictable long term schedules | 19:16 |
| Kilos | yes lets try wednesday at 8.30pm | 19:16 |
| Kilos | for a year | 19:16 |
| kbmonkey | I'd say cycle it each week - but now that can get confusing! | 19:16 |
| kbmonkey | (for the unofficial meets) | 19:17 |
| Kilos | the first week was also a prob for someone on monday | 19:17 |
| kbmonkey | get a good idea of who is on which days | 19:17 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yes, we are still a small group, so impact is not huge, but if we want to grow we need to be predictable | 19:17 |
| inetpro | I would say, put it on the Agenda | 19:18 |
| Kilos | then we gotta change before we grow | 19:18 |
| Kilos | ya thats a good idea | 19:18 |
| kbmonkey | tops | 19:18 |
| Kilos | normally the stalwarts are at meets | 19:18 |
| inetpro | but at the same time, I say, let's have regular informal open discussions | 19:18 |
| Kilos | yes that too | 19:18 |
| Kilos | about weather | 19:18 |
| kbmonkey | I dare say most people are likely to be avail on sunday evenings | 19:18 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: I doubt | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | yes Kilos you can tell us about the big hail | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:19 |
| Kilos | i posted a link to the hail here | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ask the prob he scrolls back good | 19:19 |
| kbmonkey | pictures? | 19:19 |
| Kilos | ya one | 19:20 |
| kbmonkey | I got a log I can grep | 19:20 |
| Kilos | taken here by me with old nokia | 19:20 |
| kbmonkey | I will search | 19:20 |
| Kilos | its on imageshack | 19:20 |
| inetpro | we can even have scheduled discussions inside working hours for those who want them | 19:20 |
| kbmonkey | on the shell account :) | 19:20 |
| kbmonkey | good idea that | 19:20 |
| inetpro | we just can't expect for everyone to be present at all times | 19:20 |
| Kilos | http://imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img28/5684/frlt.jpg | 19:21 |
| kbmonkey | that is big hail Kilos ! | 19:22 |
| Kilos | yeah | 19:22 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: get a topic, we announce it on twitter and G+ and open the floor at specific times | 19:22 |
| kbmonkey | just found it in the log | 19:22 |
| Kilos | some were bigger | 19:22 |
| kbmonkey | sjoe those will knock you sore on the noggin | 19:22 |
| Kilos | i just took what bounces from grass to veranda | 19:22 |
| inetpro | we have lots of followers on g+ already | 19:22 |
| kbmonkey | I dont use g+ anymore - too slow :( | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | their redesign did not help us slow pokes - | 19:23 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: irc is IMHO still the best platform for group discussions | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | but yes that is a good idea inetpro ! | 19:23 |
| kbmonkey | as long as there is other people using it I approve! | 19:24 |
| kbmonkey | *are | 19:24 |
| inetpro | so what do you want to discuss first? | 19:24 |
| Kilos | g+ tweetshop and list reaches lotsa peeps | 19:25 |
| Kilos | even though some class invites as spam | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | no ideas for topics yet | 19:25 |
| kbmonkey | I llike how people bring their own | 19:26 |
| kbmonkey | byot | 19:26 |
| === Arcanum_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| inetpro | kbmonkey: you mean byod? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | hi Trixar_za | 19:28 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: Bring your own device (BYOD) | 19:28 |
| Trixar_za | Hey Kilos | 19:28 |
| inetpro | Trixar_za: wb | 19:29 |
| Trixar_za | Thanks inetpro | 19:29 |
| inetpro | oh BYOD also called bring your own technology (BYOT), bring your own phone (BYOP), and bring your own PC (BYOPC) | 19:29 |
| kbmonkey | Bring your own topic ;) | 19:30 |
| * inetpro didn't even realise that | 19:30 | |
| kbmonkey | every time on the laptop I start to setup cone mail user agent, but always get so distracted, lol! | 19:30 |
| Trixar_za | So I discovered there's a guy near me that calls himself a hacker. Mind you, I've had an arguement, while in my early teens, about history with this guy before who was in his 20s at the time. Turns out he's just a Security Penetration Expert. | 19:31 |
| Trixar_za | That's not a hacker. That's more a half-arsed cracker. | 19:31 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: ok, I get you, so we just open the floor entirely? | 19:31 |
| Trixar_za | I can already tell that I'm going to argue with him again | 19:31 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: you're welcome to do that at any point | 19:31 |
| kbmonkey | I suppose so inetpro - at this time I am empty for topics. plus it kept the talk rolling. | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | like how one brnach is weak, but many branches are stronger | 19:32 |
| kbmonkey | hehe yes that sounds about right Trixar_za :P | 19:33 |
| kbmonkey | also a hacker follows a methodology to self-learn a system or device, and not go to school to be told these things. | 19:34 |
| kbmonkey | its more a philosphy on approach, and not specific knowledge | 19:34 |
| inetpro | Kilos: did you see that I answered Mike Green via @ubuntuza ? | 19:34 |
| Kilos | nope i havent gone on there | 19:35 |
| Kilos | who is he | 19:35 |
| Kilos | choqok is on kde and thats got no place here | 19:35 |
| inetpro | see https://twitter.com/nitibob/status/406333898965417984 | 19:35 |
| Trixar_za | I follow Raymond's definition of a hacker. He's not even a hacker's ass - not even a larval stage hacker like most crackers either | 19:36 |
| Kilos | whew get him here | 19:37 |
| Kilos | we teach him quick | 19:37 |
| * inetpro agrees with Trixar_za about esr's definition of a hacker | 19:37 | |
| Trixar_za | He should call himself a security penetration expert or an security consultant. Not a hacker. | 19:38 |
| inetpro | good reading -->> How To Become A Hacker http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html | 19:38 |
| Trixar_za | computer security consultant* | 19:38 |
| Trixar_za | to avoid confusion :P | 19:38 |
| Trixar_za | Oh a nice word I just discovered for it | 19:40 |
| Trixar_za | It's a misname to call what he does hacking | 19:40 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 19:40 |
| Kilos | inetpro, did he post on ubuntuza | 19:44 |
| Kilos | how did you answer him from there | 19:44 |
| Kilos | yo Mezenir | 19:44 |
| Kilos | or is he a follower | 19:44 |
| Trixar_za | Generally I feel anything that can be taught and done using some pre-written tool isn't really hard to begin with :/ I prefer something challenging like programming something from scratch or something | 19:45 |
| Mezenir | hey kilos | 19:45 |
| Mezenir | hi all | 19:45 |
| Mezenir | how goes | 19:45 |
| Kilos | good ty and you | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | ah thanks for that link inetpro - hey it is updated very recently | 19:45 |
| Mezenir | good thanks | 19:45 |
| kbmonkey | also a very nice read I go back to is http://www.cryptonomicon.com/beginning.html | 19:46 |
| Kilos | inetpro, always remember in its not your own boat you are rocking then rock from the top | 19:47 |
| inetpro | Kilos: he got retweeted by JoziLUG who is one of my followers | 19:47 |
| Kilos | aha | 19:47 |
| kbmonkey | ahahaha | 19:47 |
| Kilos | we actually need to do some advertising | 19:47 |
| kbmonkey | that logo of the dots in that hacker-howto is a pattern/lifeform from the game of life | 19:48 |
| Kilos | learning linux from a working os like ubuntu is in every ones reach i think | 19:48 |
| kbmonkey | it is a symbol for geek :] | 19:48 |
| kbmonkey | I believe it is called the "glider" lifeform | 19:49 |
| kbmonkey | the hacker emblem, yes that's it! | 19:50 |
| charl | good evening | 19:50 |
| Trixar_za | Yes kbmonkey, it's the glider | 19:50 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, what link you looking at | 19:51 |
| Kilos | catb one? | 19:51 |
| Trixar_za | Playing with math models is fun. I'm using a midi program that does fractal based music generation too | 19:51 |
| kbmonkey | the one the pro gave Kilos | 19:51 |
| Trixar_za | http://www.trixarian.net/music/ | 19:51 |
| Kilos | whew that a page back already | 19:52 |
| Trixar_za | All of them generated in that way | 19:52 |
| kbmonkey | oh that is neat Trixar_za ! | 19:52 |
| kbmonkey | I've been making music in milkytracker - its not generated though, its all sweat work | 19:53 |
| Trixar_za | I still want to learn how to use a tracker properly | 19:53 |
| Trixar_za | While fractal generation is fun, it does end up repeating itself eventually | 19:54 |
| Trixar_za | On the up side, I bet you could use it to generate the initial tones needed for instruments in a tracker | 19:54 |
| inetpro | btw, how can I make a podcast like feed from a lot of mp3 audio files in a folder on a web server? | 19:55 |
| Trixar_za | podcast feed? I just figured out that browsers like firefox and chrome play ogg files with streaming, so I started to use that format instead of mp3 | 19:56 |
| charl | inetpro: you *should* be able to generate an rss or atom feed very simply using python and just a directory listing | 19:56 |
| inetpro | charl: a few years ago I did a RSS feed script like that with perl | 19:56 |
| kbmonkey | a track for a game I am making Trixar_za (15kb) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18686471/mods/kbmonkey-moonbase_attack.xm | 19:57 |
| inetpro | ideally it would be nice to give the users a front-end interface where they fill in the details with an upload function | 19:57 |
| Trixar_za | I'm actually looking through modarchive.org for a future music I can use with a visual novel | 19:58 |
| charl | inetpro: i have been checking this out but i haven't used it yet http://lkiesow.github.io/python-feedgen/ | 19:58 |
| kbmonkey | Trixar_za, I am always willing to collaborate - as far as my skills can take me of course | 19:59 |
| Trixar_za | kbmonkey: Nice chiptune you got there | 20:01 |
| kbmonkey | I can link you a page with more of other styles - that one is very game specifc | 20:02 |
| Trixar_za | I've been on somewhat of radix binge myself since I heard yuki satellite @ http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=167157 | 20:02 |
| Trixar_za | Mind you, it's a 15MB xm file | 20:02 |
| Trixar_za | Compresses to under 4MB as a mp3 | 20:02 |
| inetpro | charl: thanks for the link, will check it out | 20:03 |
| charl | np, it looks dead simple | 20:03 |
| charl | if you need help, just shout | 20:04 |
| inetpro | charl: sure thing, sadly simple might just not be good enough | 20:04 |
| kbmonkey | Trixar_za, http://tinyurl.com/kbmonk | 20:04 |
| charl | inetpro: i guess the biggest thing is, you want titles for each file, unless you can derive that off the file name | 20:05 |
| kbmonkey | Ill take a listen to yuki satellites | 20:05 |
| charl | inetpro: considering you already know the url from the file name and the date from the last modified date | 20:05 |
| Trixar_za | Btw kbmonkey, any good guides on learning how to use a tracker? | 20:05 |
| kbmonkey | that sure is a large file XD | 20:05 |
| inetpro | charl: that is the problem here, the information is not in the file | 20:06 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 20:06 |
| Kilos | crash time | 20:06 |
| kbmonkey | I create all samples using the draw tool, so my songs are usually very very tiny | 20:06 |
| Kilos | see you tomorrow | 20:06 |
| inetpro | at lest not all of it | 20:06 |
| kbmonkey | gn Kilos | 20:06 |
| inetpro | Kilos: good night | 20:06 |
| Trixar_za | kbmonkey: Yeah, I was surprised too. I downloaded most of it before I realized how big it was. The song ended up being worth it | 20:07 |
| kbmonkey | Trixar_za, I have not found much of good guides to be honest! most of it is by loading up other peoples mods and looking at how they did things. like reading code I guess. | 20:07 |
| kbmonkey | however on youtube is some tutorials by stormblast, those are pretty good to start | 20:07 |
| Trixar_za | I figured. Most of the time I'm just using pure ear mixing. There is also a big gap between midi and solmire converted instrumental mixes like the mp3 and ogg files are | 20:08 |
| kbmonkey | also, look up anything by strobe - those are visually stunning as the tracks are assembled to give a visual feedback type effect. it is just crazy. | 20:09 |
| Trixar_za | kbmonkey: http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_profile&query=69549 ? | 20:10 |
| kbmonkey | yes, that strobe | 20:12 |
| kbmonkey | of course I meant playing in milkytracker so you see the visual effects | 20:12 |
| kbmonkey | see tawnythegnome for example | 20:13 |
| kbmonkey | 20:15 | |
| kbmonkey | folks the day and gym caught up with me - Im off for soem R&R | 20:18 |
| Trixar_za | Night kbmonkey | 20:23 |
| Trixar_za | And yeah, I downloaded milkytracker just for strobe's tracks | 20:23 |
| Trixar_za | Ok, that was pretty awesome to see | 20:30 |
| Trixar_za | Maaz, tell kbmonkey to check out http://trixarian.net/atrk-bu2.zip to my experimentation with auto-trackering | 20:33 |
| Maaz | Trixar_za: Okay, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode | 20:33 |
| Trixar_za | Hmm, that's not my lastest code for it - let's update it | 20:37 |
| Trixar_za | :P | 20:37 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: shall I announce an open discussion for Monday evening at 20:30? eg: Join us for an open discussion on Monday evening at 20:30 - 21:30 and feel free to bring your own topic | 20:37 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: are you willing to run the show? I do think it should be somewhat controlled like our meeting the other day | 20:38 |
| inetpro | oops, and I didn't even notice that he called it a day... good night kbmonkey | 20:40 |
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