[00:01] <amnith> Actually, the flash that I'm using is "adobe flash plugin" from the software center. But it may not be working on my computer because I'm using chrome, and this flash doesn't seem to support chrome. Also, I've experienced this problem with firefox as well.
[00:02] <Beldar> amnith, chrome has it's own built in flash.
[00:02] <daftykins> flash - ah-AH
[00:02]  * zykotick9 drooles over onca's 220GB ssd < that's sick
[00:02] <amnith> geekmasterflash I also have windows 8 and I never had this problem, so I think it might be exclusive to ubuntu and it compatibility with flash. I've heard that flash has always been a problem for ubuntu for some reason.
[00:02]  * Beldar has a 256 gigger 
[00:03] <geekmasterflash> amnith, Yes, I also had no issue in windows
[00:03] <amnith> beldar how do I "!reisub"? I typed it into the terminal and it said "bash: !reisub: event not found"
[00:03] <zelrik> I need help with password reset
[00:03] <Beldar> amnith, read the link not in a terminal.
[00:04] <bekks> amnith: chrome supports the current version of Flash built by Adobe and packaged by Google as PepperFlash.
[00:04] <Beldar> zelrik, passwd in the cli
[00:04] <bekks> amnith: Far more current than the "flash in firefox".
[00:04] <zelrik> Beldar, I dont have cli access
[00:04] <zelrik> Beldar, I forgot the password
[00:04] <Beldar> zelrik, no command line really.
[00:04] <geekmasterflash> zelrik, no ssh access?
[00:05] <zelrik> geekmasterflash, 0 access
[00:05] <glitsj16> amnith: you might want to look at minitube or smtube to avoid flash on youtube
[00:05] <zelrik> none
[00:05] <zelrik> nada
[00:05] <geekmasterflash> zelrik, Cause if you can't get into the machine, I am not sure we can be much help
[00:05] <zelrik> I need to hack my computer
[00:05] <zykotick9> !password | zelrik
[00:05] <geekmasterflash> zelrik, Sorry, well beyond the scope of what we can help with
[00:05] <Beldar> zelrik, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword here is another link
[00:05] <zelrik> rescue mode doesnt help
[00:05] <zelrik> still prompted for a password
[00:05] <zykotick9> zelrik: it should?
[00:06] <Beldar> zelrik, Your not doing it right then.
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> zelrik: is this an encrypted drive?
[00:06] <Beldar> zelrik, Did you make a root password?
[00:06] <zelrik> shift > recovery mode, drop root password... prompted
[00:06] <zelrik> hitsujiTMO, it is
[00:06] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: that explains that...
[00:07] <Beldar> bingo encrypted
[00:07] <zelrik> it s too secure
[00:07] <zelrik> I am screwed...
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> zelrik: i bet you can guess that there's no way to get access to the drive without it
[00:07] <zelrik> my password is a variation of something
[00:07] <zelrik> but I forgot which variation exactly
[00:07]  * Beldar thinks the nsa needs to help here
[00:07] <zelrik> I wonder if I can bruteforce it
[00:08] <zelrik> are there scripts around to bruteforce a password
[00:08] <Beldar> case point why encryption is not a good idea, without a backup to get in
[00:09] <zelrik> it s an old laptop
[00:09] <zelrik> I dont use the password often
[00:09] <zelrik> that s why I keep forgetting
[00:10] <pfifo> zelrik: you can setup the encryption to use a keyfile, and you can store that keyfile on a usb (or the internet) to prevent this sort of thing
[00:14] <m90> ciao
[00:14] <m90> !list
[00:15] <geekmasterflash> !it | m90
[00:16] <pfifo> geekmasterflash: m90 is a bot
[00:16] <geekmasterflash> pfifo, Oh.
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> geekmasterflash: its the main reason why most channels autokick on !list
[00:18] <LjL> i don't believe m90 is a bot, what do you base that on?
[00:19] <pfifo> im guessing
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> LjL: if its not then italians like to come everyday and say the exact same thing ( ciao followed by !list ) and get the exact same response
[00:19] <pfifo> spiderbot for a warez index
[00:19] <richringer> I have a maas node trying to get setupand I keep getting this error. I'm using ubuntu 12.0432bit under virtualbox.  FATAL: Error inserting ipmi_si (lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic/kernel/drivers/char/ipmi/ipmi_si.ko): No such device
[00:20] <bekks> pfifo: More likely victims of some italian IT magazine trying to troll Ubuntu.
[00:20] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: i've seen lots of "holla/!list" and even "hello/!list" in my time... dont think it's it's limited to Italians
[00:20] <pfifo> not a very good troll
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: i've particular seen a lot of ciao from telecomitalia.it   stands out
[00:22] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: oh, i know...
[00:24] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: Thats because "Telecom Italia" is one of the biggest ISP in Italy :)
[00:24] <pfifo> if anything that makes it less likely to be a bot
[00:24] <IdleOne> it does make all this conversation about it off topic
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[00:28] <FloodBot1> LolBot_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[00:29] <FloodBot1> LolBot_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:29] <geekmasterflash> Our bot will win in the end.
[00:29] <LolBot_> yeah...
[00:29] <LolBot_> its not a real bot
[00:29] <LolBot_> its just for fun.
[00:30] <Mississauga> If ubuntu 12 is installed on a machine already having win 7 will it run significantly slower than if the hard disk was separately partitioned for win and ubuntu?
[00:30] <geekmasterflash> Oh, in that case...
[00:30] <geekmasterflash> !ops | LolBot_
[00:30] <pfifo> Mississauga: no
[00:31] <jafar> Missisaugo no
[00:31] <jafar> it will run the same
[00:31] <jafar> infact that is what i did on ma windows 7 machine and there was no difference
[00:32] <hitsujiTMO> Mississauga: do you mean that if it was running in a virtual machine? or just standalone ubuntu?
[00:33] <Mississauga> standalone
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> Mississauga: then defo not
[00:33] <jafar> i think Mississauga was talking about standalone
[00:34] <Mississauga> whats meant by ubuntu running as virtual machine?   I know windows is often run as a virtual machine using Wine (or I think thats what its called)
[00:34] <SolarisBoy> Mississauga: wine isn't a virtual machine
[00:35] <jafar> Mississauga virtual machine is just some computer in your computer that is not real.
[00:35] <jafar> i.e virtual
[00:35] <Mississauga> example??
[00:35] <euxneks> Mississauga, it's a software computer inside your own hardware computer
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> Mississauga: no thats different. wine emulates(ish). a virtual machine allows you to run an os inside another os. So you can run lets say ubuntu, inside a virtual computer inside windows
[00:35] <jafar> you could be running windows 7 and have a virtual machine running ubuntu
[00:36] <Mississauga> ok, new stuff for me
[00:36] <pfifo> Mississauga: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Virtualbox_screenshot.png
[00:36] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, WIne is Not an Emulator ;)
[00:37] <SolarisBoy> lol
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> euxneks: yeah, its the simplest way to describes it role tho
[00:38] <mydevilroot> Hello all
[00:38] <SolarisBoy> wines like a windows chroot
[00:38] <mydevilroot> I have a question, what drivers are better, install the newest beta driver ATi from their website or use AMD FGLRX (updates) from Additionals Drivers in Settings Panel ?
[00:38] <jafar> hello there!
[00:39] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO,  I think maybe a better way to describe it is a windows to linux translator
[00:39] <pfifo> mydevilroot: fglrx will have better support
[00:40] <mydevilroot> pfifo: okay, thanks, but fglrx has an issue, I can't record a videos or take a screenshots
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> euxneks: as in it copies windows behaviours in linux?
[00:40] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, well it sort of translates what windows apps want to do into similar things in linux
[00:41] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, i.e. directX "draw line here" to similar openGL bindings
[00:41] <pfifo> hitsujiTMO: wine is a set of windows libraries that have been written for use on linux, and a set of tools to configure them
[00:41] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, or "draw a window like this, in these dimensions" to X11 draw commands
[00:42] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, it ends up being faster than trying to implement windows as an emulator on a linux machine, though it's very difficult
[00:42] <pfifo> mydevilroot: then perhaps you want the binaries, you can technically switch back anf forth between them if you really wanted to.
[00:42] <hitsujiTMO> euxneks: i was actually trying to trap you there with my laste statement. what i said is the definition of emulator. but yeah i know wine these days functions more like a wrapper/vm than an emulator
[00:42] <zykotick9> euxneks: just wanted to say "i agree with you".  WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator ;)
[00:42] <euxneks> hitsujiTMO, haha fair enough
[00:44] <DRice7> hello all, anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot some ACPI issues on an ubuntu 13.10 server?
[00:45] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: try spit out the issue
[00:45] <DRice7> Whenever I do a reboot, the machine shuts down
[00:45] <DRice7> I have some errors in dmesg about ACPI - but have no idea where to get started troubleshooting it as i've never had this type of problem before
[00:46] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: can you pastebin the errors and what command are you using to reboot?
[00:47] <DRice7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6491941/ - I have tried every possible way to reboot
[00:47] <DRice7> shutdown -r now, shutdown -r, init 6
[00:48] <DRice7> reboot of course
[00:48] <richringer> if I wanted to setup an ubuntu cloud. what ubuntu version should I go with?
[00:48] <DRice7> i think i've exhausted that as the problem
[00:48] <DRice7> pretttty sure it has to do with the ACPI somehow
[00:49] <pfifo> DRice7: what did you pastebin? its not dmesg
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: can you also pastebin /var/log/syslog.1
[00:50] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: and maybe /var/log/dmesg.1
[00:50] <zelrik> ok how long does it take to bruteforce an encrypted file
[00:51] <jafar> it depends on the length
[00:51] <pfifo> zelrik: a lifetime
[00:51] <mydevilroot> I'll be back soon
[00:51] <hitsujiTMO> zelrik: if you mean encrypted hdd, maybe a few lifetimes
[00:51] <DRice7> brb, i'll pastebin some stuff
[00:51] <zelrik> hitsujiTMO, so I am screwed?
[00:51] <euxneks> zelrik, is it an encrypted HDD?
[00:52] <hitsujiTMO> zelrik: unless you can eventually remember the password
[00:52] <pfifo> zelrik: eat some fish sticks. always helps me to remember stuff, might take a few days to get the full effect
[00:52] <jafar> if its encrypted HDD, then its much more time than u can imagine
[00:52] <zelrik> euxneks, I think so
[00:52] <jafar> even  months
[00:52] <zelrik> I ll never remember it
[00:53] <zelrik> just forget it
[00:53] <euxneks> zelrik, how did you make the password?
[00:53] <jafar> if u cant remember it then launch brute force and wait till you grow old
[00:54] <DRice7> haha does cat /var/log/syslog.1 | pastebinit not supposed to work?
[00:55] <pfifo> it should work
[00:55] <zelrik> euxneks, I even forgot what I did when I encrypted that shit
[00:55] <zelrik> euxneks, I even forgot I encrypted it
[00:55] <zelrik> but it looks like I did
[00:55] <jafar> yeah it should work although not very certain
[00:55] <euxneks> zelrik, I feel for you dude :( that's too bad I forget stuff all the time. Might want to look into something like password gorilla for future things
[00:55] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: depends on the permissions of /var/log/syslog.1 (usual 640 afik) and if it actually exists
[00:56] <euxneks> I have my password db backed up to the "cloud"
[00:56]  * euxneks waves hands
[00:56] <pfifo> i use the same password for everything
[00:56] <pfifo> oops
[00:56] <euxneks> pfifo, hahah
[00:57] <pfifo> and its 12 years old
[00:57] <DRice7> woah, just took awhile: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492022/
[00:57] <zelrik> euxneks, and I am sure I did something stupid like writing the key in a file in the same f*cking directory that s encrypted
[00:57] <pfifo> zelrik: not possible
[00:58] <coventry> What command is usually run when Fn-F1 is pressed on a lubuntu laptop?  Is there a place where I can look this sort of thing up?  I know it's more than just rtcwake, because it locks the screen as well.
[00:58] <Beldar> !language | zelrik
[00:58] <zelrik> I am sure I wrote something it somewhere
[00:58] <DRice7> I don't have a dmesg.1 i have a dmesg and a dmesg.0
[00:58] <zelrik> but I forgot where
[00:58] <euxneks> zelrik, is it under your keyboard? :P
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> conventry i dont think its a file thats usually handled by your acpi module afaik
[00:58] <zykotick9> euxneks: if your passwords are in the cloud, then assume everyone has them as well...
[00:58] <zelrik> at the time, I was like 'ok all this makes sense, I am safe now'
[00:59] <euxneks> zykotick9, password gorilla uses encryption
[00:59] <zelrik> euxneks, I moved out 3 times since then
[00:59] <zelrik> euxneks, if it s written on a piece of paper, that paper is lost
[00:59] <zykotick9> euxneks: i happen to know a couple of people (aka nsa) who likes to break "encryption"
[00:59] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: Surely acpi doesn't grab the keypress event ahead of the window manager.
[00:59] <DRice7> hitsujiTMO: here is dmesg.0 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492025/
[00:59] <zelrik> I didnt use that laptop in 5 years
[00:59] <Beldar> euxneks, Most encryption has been broken by the nsa or made weak to begin with so........
[00:59] <zelrik> it s old as hell
[01:00] <euxneks> zykotick9, zelrik: breaking encryption is expensive though
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: its not a key event its an acpi event
[01:00] <zelrik> euxneks, I have bitcoins on it!
[01:00] <zykotick9> euxneks: lol...
[01:00] <euxneks> zelrik, oh no
[01:00] <euxneks> zelrik, I was about to ask you that but thought nahhh.. oh shit man
[01:00] <euxneks> hahaha
[01:00] <zelrik> :D
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: i still havent opened dmesg
[01:00] <hitsujiTMO> .1
[01:00] <Beldar> euxneks, This is a no swearing channel.
[01:00] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: Oh, Fn-F1 is handled differently by the hardware than the rest of the keyboard?  That's interesting.
[01:00] <euxneks> ah, Beldar, apologies
[01:01] <DRice7> i don't have a dmesg.1, only a dmesg and a dmesg.0 - dmesg.1.tg.gz
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: yup
[01:01] <euxneks> zelrik, how many do you have in there, do you remember?
[01:01] <zelrik> euxneks, I actually dont
[01:01] <euxneks> zelrik, it might be worthwhile to pay a company to break the encryption
[01:01] <euxneks> zelrik, oh man hahaha
[01:01] <euxneks> zelrik, sorry :(
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: you can handle acpi keys your self https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/acpid
[01:01] <euxneks> zelrik, I mined a coin a LONG time ago but have since lost the wallet
[01:02] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: that is, if its not handled by the acpi kernel mod
[01:02] <zelrik> I did try out bitcoin a while ago
[01:03] <coventry> You should release ZelrikCoin.  Like Bitcoin, except the metric for the proof-of-work lottery is hamming distance of attempted decryptions to expected plain text.
[01:03] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: thats what happens when it gets too big. can you upload that somewhere?
[01:04] <DRice7> yeah, let me unzip it
[01:04] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: dont, just upload it to somewhere. some fileshare site
[01:04] <DRice7> oh ok
[01:04] <DRice7> what's the easiest way to do that from CLI
[01:05] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: i see the acpi errors: ACPI Exception: AE_NOT_FOUND, While evaluating Sleep State [\_S1_] (20130517/hwxface-571)
[01:05] <DRice7> yes, That comes up alot I see
[01:05] <DRice7> but I have no idea what it means
[01:06] <DRice7> it also says to use an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver - how do i change that
[01:06] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: what kernel are you using?
[01:06] <DRice7> i just went with stock ubuntu 13.10 server
[01:06] <DRice7> whatever kernel it threw on
[01:06] <mayhem> i am using 13.04 on my laptop and everytime i startup my pc the brightness and volume levels are maximum. is it possible to save my level settings? thanks!
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: o.o more unusual messages: PCI: Using host bridge windows from ACPI; if necessary, use "pci=nocrs" and report a bug
[01:07] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: Thanks.  Where are the acpi configuration files on ubuntu?  Locate *acpi* is not turning up anything interesting.
[01:07] <pfifo> mayhem: dont know about saving them, but you can set them in /etc/rc.local
[01:07] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: /etc/acpi
[01:08] <DRice7> hitsujiTMO: exactly - what the hell does that even mean?
[01:08] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: I don't have that directory.
[01:08] <mayhem> pfifo, oh i see thanks. so its a bug or something?
[01:08] <pfifo> mayhem: i dont know if there is a way to save them, that in and of otself is not a bug.
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: o.O
[01:09] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: what motherboard are you using?
[01:09] <DRice7> ASRock E3c224-v+
[01:09] <DRice7> or maybe +v-
[01:09] <pfifo> mayhem: not being able to save them could be a feature request type of bug
[01:09] <DRice7> most recent bios 1.40
[01:10] <Dax|64> you could disable acpi if you're not using SSDs or anything that benefits from them
[01:11] <DRice7> my O/S boots off of an SSD
[01:11] <DRice7> then i have 3x4TB drives in a raidz config - but that's besides the point
[01:11] <Dax|64> mmkay
[01:11] <DRice7> i was never able to properly reboot this machine, except with freenas, and hitting ctrl-alt-delete before ubuntu got ahold of it
[01:12] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: This is ubuntu 12.10, but that doesn't seem like something which would have changed recently.
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: i'd say its just so new that theres no acpi support for it in the kernel. maybe report a bug and add the dmesg
[01:12] <pfifo> DRice7: i cant shutdown my machine so I feel your pain
[01:13] <DRice7> hitsujiTMO, oh damn - that's not what i was hoping for
[01:14] <DRice7> every version of ubuntu had sae results so i guess what you are saying makes sense
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: you could try 3.12 mainline to see if that has support
[01:15] <DRice7> haha, is that a quick google search away? What is 13.12 mainline?
[01:16] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[01:17] <DRice7> that looks fun...hope i dont brick my server
[01:18] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: its 3 .debs to install. pretty simple and you can always jump back to an earlier kernel if it doens't work and remove the 3.12
[01:19] <DRice7> sweeet shibby sweet!
[01:19] <DRice7> if this fixes me....i'm gonna virtual hug you, no homo
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: i presume 64bit right?
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[01:20] <DRice7> of course :)
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/linux-headers-3.12.0-031200-generic_3.12.0-031200.201311031935_amd64.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/linux-headers-3.12.0-031200_3.12.0-031200.201311031935_all.deb and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.12-saucy/linux-image-3.12.0-031200-generic_3.12.0-031200.201311031935_amd64.deb
[01:21] <DRice7> wget?
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: yups
[01:21] <DRice7> dpkg -i <said packages?>
[01:21] <hitsujiTMO> oui oui
[01:21] <DRice7> hell yeah, i am learning ubuntu pretty quick
[01:23] <mug896> im using 13.10 64bit but "compiz" process eat memory more and more every time i using dash and launcher
[01:23] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: what cpu/gpu do you have?
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: sounds like your gpu has no 3d acelleration and is offloading to the cpu for the blur effect
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> atom processor?
[01:24] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: The trick is to install acpid.
[01:25] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: ahh kk. i must have installed that manually when going over custom scripts with someone before
[01:25] <mug896> my notebook cpu is Intel® Core™ i5 CPU M 480 @ 2.67GHz × 4  and gpu is GeForce 310M/PCIe/SSE2
[01:28] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: o.O. and what speed is your cpu running at? cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz
[01:28] <nineTHe> I have ubuntu installed alongside win 8 (i can't boot into windows) I want to back up my ubuntu partition then wipe my hard drive and install just ubuntu. Is there a guide for doing this?
[01:29] <mug896> cpu MHz		: 1199.000
[01:29] <kriskropd> would this be a good palce to ask why w3m-img doesn't work in my urxvt?
[01:30] <kriskropd> place*
[01:30] <Beldar> nineTHe, This a Oem windows *
[01:31] <nineTHe> Beldar: I have no idea what that means
[01:31] <Beldar> nineTHe, original manufactures
[01:32] <Beldar> nineTHe, The point is gpt partitioning and efi.
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: yeah something definitely seems fishy there but i'm not sure where to look. you can try installing unity-tweak-tool and turn off background blur and see if that reduces the issue. maybe nouveau is offloading the filter to the cpu for some silly reason
[01:33] <nineTHe> Beldar: would it work if I booted into the live cd then erased my windows partition then start fresh install?
[01:33] <coventry> nineTHe:  I don't know of tools which make that easy.  You can use a live usb stick to clone the ubuntu partition with dd, then dd the ubuntu partition into the windows partition, make sure you can boot from it using grub, and resize it to overwrite the old copy once you're sure it's useful.  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Disk_Cloning
[01:34] <Beldar> nineTHe, Ah, avoiding the questions, good luck, if youn do not address everything you do not understand you will not have much luck here.
[01:35] <nineTHe> thanks for the link Beldar
[01:35] <coventry> nineTHe: This will void your warranty.  I would clone the entire disk somewhere before fooling with it, if I were you.
[01:36] <DRice7> hitsujiTMO: how would i go about rolling back this kernel if this doesn't work out?
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: software change voiding warranty? i i think not.
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> DRice7: in the grub menu you can choose an older kernel. ( i think its in advanced or something )
[01:38] <coventry> hitsujiTMO: Figure of speech.  It is a drastic, potentially damaging change which would be irresponsible without a recovery method if it goes bad.
[01:38] <hitsujiTMO> coventry: :P yeah that's true alright
[01:39] <highbass1> hey guys... just did a fresh install and my wireless keeps asking for password but doesn't connect... cant figure out why this might be happening
[01:40] <Beldar> highbass1, You using which password the user or the routers?
[01:40] <highbass1> Beldar: user password ofcourse.... i know it works because i have a windows laptop sitting next to me and its working fine with it
[01:40] <Beldar> highbass1, Might be the routers
[01:41] <highbass1> Beldar: what might be the routers?
[01:41] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: i could be completely misreading mug896's issues, but what about him installing nvidia driver and nvidia-prime? read about nvidia-prime @ http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html ... please disregard if this is beside the point
[01:41] <Beldar> highbass1, run laspci and post the wifi hardware as well for just more info.
[01:41] <Beldar> lspci*
[01:42] <Beldar> highbass1,  run sudo apt-get update to see if your user password is actually working as well.
[01:42] <highbass1> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6235 (rev 24)
[01:43] <highbass1> its working fine
[01:43] <highbass1> running updates right now
[01:43] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: yes installing proprietary drivers is an option, but i still find the issue a bit fishy. there should be no issue at all with that gpu and nouveau
[01:44] <NFD_> alright, i'm having problems using nm-applet. Throws "(32) Not authorized to control networking." every time i try to do much of anything.
[01:44] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: fair enough :)
[01:44] <Beldar> highbass1, I don't use unity so I'm not sure whether the password popup is yours or the routers is all. just an easy check if there is a router password is all.
[01:44] <abstract>  
[01:44] <NFD_> i ran dist-upgrade yesterday, but I had the problem beforehand as well.
[01:44] <nineTHe> when I installed ubuntu on my win 8 machine, I chose the "/quit
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: btw optimus is only a feature in 500 series + afaik, so nvidia-prime would be useless
[01:44] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: just recently discovered nvidia-prime package that's all, takes the hassle out of bumblebee install etc
[01:45] <Beldar> NFD_, Might you running a partial upgrade?
[01:45] <NFD_> hmm?
[01:45] <Beldar> be*
[01:45] <highbass1> Beldar: ahh i see what you are saying... no its the router password that its prompting for... not the sudo password
[01:45] <highbass1> Beldar: and it keeps popping for the router password even though i am typing the correct password
[01:45] <NFD_> Beldar: what'cha mean? i had the problem pre-upgrade too
[01:45] <Beldar> highbass1, I have had to wipe the password in the nm to get it to work at times.
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: yeah, prime is a nice upgrade from bumblebee
[01:46] <NFD_> Beldar: how would I check?
[01:46] <Beldar> NFD_, If you see a held packages in a apt-get it may be a partial missing dependencies, especially in a dist-upgrade, this can break you setup.
[01:46] <highbass1> Beldar: fair enough but this is a brand new installation ... i just installed and entered the password and it keeps reasking the pass
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: actually are you still there?
[01:47] <Beldar> highbass1, I used to see a tick for auto connect, is this the original desktop?
[01:47] <NFD_> Beldar: I'll check really quick, but i sorta doubt that's the problem
[01:48] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: mug896: apologies for confusing the issue
[01:48] <Beldar> NFD_, Sure, however we have to at times check variables.
[01:48] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: i wonder are you running an internal intel gpu aswell?
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> glitsj16: nah not confusing the issue at all
[01:50] <NFD_> Beldar: $ sudo apt-get check
[01:50] <NFD_> Reading package lists... Done
[01:50] <NFD_> Building dependency tree
[01:50] <NFD_> Reading state information... Done
[01:50] <Beldar> highbass1, here I see others with connect problems might be worth looking through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Centrino+Advanced-N+6235
[01:50] <NFD_> nuthin
[01:50] <FloodBot1> NFD_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:51] <hitsujiTMO> mug896: you may need to play with the vgaswitcheroo ( yes thats what its actually called )
[01:52] <NFD_> Beldar: there's no packages to fix as far as I can tell.
[01:52] <Beldar> NFD_, Cool you might run a search on askubuntu as well as asking here.
[01:53] <NFD_> Beldar: looks like you missed that i was having this problem pre-update? anyway, polkit and NetworkManager were running when i last checked
[01:54] <nixm> hey which hand held tablet can i install ubuntu onto so i can run ubuntu programs on it?
[01:54] <NFD_> it still connects when I get near a known wifi point
[01:54] <Beldar> NFD_, I missed nothing.
[01:54] <nixm> id like to install it to one of those galaxy tablets or something like a kindle fire hd
[01:54] <Hetal_> nixm : Does your kernel support loop devices?
[01:55] <nixm> will those samsung galaxys support ubuntu?
[01:55] <Hetal_> You can always try a dual boot
[01:55] <nixm> Hetal_ i dont have one yet id only buy one if it worked with ubuntu
[01:55] <NFD_> Beldar: alright, fair enough :P
[01:56] <Hetal_> Android is an edited form of Ubuntu
[01:56] <NFD_> doesn't ever hurt to check
[01:56] <nixm> im not buying one of those unless i can get ubuntu loaded for editing videos on the field without having the bios for the device bricking on me from install
[01:56] <NFD_> Hetal_: not quite :P
[01:56] <nixm> has any one here had any luck with loading ubuntu onto one of the hand held tablets?
[01:56] <Beldar> NFD_, like when one does statistics you consider variables. When I asked about a partial you did not know what I meant, you could easily have run one at any time, you did not say from install you have had this problem.
[01:56] <Hetal_> Well I have done a dual boot
[01:56] <Hetal_> But I had to get a new kernel for mine
[01:57] <Hetal_> And mine was Acer
[01:57] <NFD_> Beldar: exactly, it doesn't hurt to be thorough. you don't quite now how apt (get it?) of a user I am
[01:57] <Hetal_> Can anyone guide me through installing libtcl8.6?
[01:57] <Hetal_> I am 'new'
[01:58] <Beldar> NFD_, exactly we have users that come here that know virtually nothing so we have to kinda phish for levels of understanding
[01:59] <NFD_> Beldar: yeah, I gotcha. just double-checking myself :P
[02:00] <NFD_> Hetal_: gimme a sec
[02:00] <Hetal_> k
[02:00] <SolarisBoy> Hetal_: is that the package name you want? i see tcllib in the repos
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> looks like a package containing tcl libraries and compatible with 8.5 and up
[02:01] <Hetal_> libtcl8.6.so
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> i see
[02:01] <Hetal_> I have tcllib installed
[02:01] <Hetal_> But apparently it won't work with my programs
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> k wasn't sure if you wanted that or so -
[02:01] <SolarisBoy> ok.
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> helal_: libctl3 in the repo? ( 1.8.5 on 13.10 )
[02:02] <hitsujiTMO> Hetal_: what app and how did you install the lib?
[02:03] <Hetal_> I installed using apt-get install libtcl
[02:03] <NFD_> hitsujiTMO: he said libtcl initially, which is different from libctl
[02:03] <Hetal_> I need it for EggDrop
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> they generally keep the so files in the dev packages - i see tcl8.5-dev
[02:03] <SolarisBoy> it looks like .5 is whats in the repos currently (12.04 atleast)
[02:04] <hitsujiTMO> nfd_ w00ps my misreading. sorry
[02:04] <Hetal_> I have installed tcl8.5-Dev already
[02:04] <SolarisBoy> but your app is looking for a higher version library - is that possibly the issue?
[02:06] <hitsujiTMO> Hetal_: did you try: sudo apt-get install eggdrop     ?
[02:06] <SolarisBoy> or if that is in the repos you may try apt-get builddep eggdrop if for some reason the deps weren't pulled properly or there is some obscure library your system can't find (atleast as a shot)
[02:07] <SolarisBoy> Hetal_: did this work on another system and your moving the scripts elsewhere? if so how did you install the TCL there?
[02:08] <Hetal_> No
[02:08] <Hetal_> First time
[02:08] <SolarisBoy> are you getting an error about the 8.6 libraries at runtime?
[02:08] <vocx> Hetal_, last time I installed ActiveTcl it was quite simple. In general it does not conflict with Ubuntu included Tcl. This may be an option too.
[02:09] <hitsujiTMO> Hetal_: if you want to modify the source you can also just: apt-get source eggdrop    and just repackage the .deb and install that.
[02:09] <Hetal_> To be honest, I didnt know that EggDrop was available in the software center
[02:09] <john_doe_jr> how do I determine what the equivalent to mono-1.0-runtime
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> Hetal_: first place to look for aything. second place to look is launchpad for a ppa :P
[02:10] <john_doe_jr> in ubuntu?
[02:11] <coryn|drunk> hi I just want to report a bug. When you press prntscr, some weird glitchy sound is played and the screen flashes. Also, this bug makes it impossible to take multiple screenshots in a row.
[02:11] <coryn|drunk> it came with the latest upgrade
[02:12] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: does the screenshot dialog come up?
[02:12] <coryn|drunk> hitsujiTMO: yes
[02:12] <coryn|drunk> but it's glitching, as I said
[02:13] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: you using snd_hda_intel?
[02:14] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: whats the output of: lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel
[02:14] <coryn|drunk> hitsujiTMO: I'm using it, yes
[02:15] <coryn|drunk> can this bug be reported online?
[02:15] <coryn|drunk> without taking the long time of registering some account etc
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: that audio glitch is a bug with snd_hda_intel + pulseaudio and has nothing to do with your problem. you can't take multiple screenshots in a row with the default screen capturing tool it seems. you'll need to install something else
[02:16] <coryn|drunk> wha.. but it worked in the previous version
[02:17] <coryn|drunk> hitsujiTMO: that audio bug is put there on purpose to mimic an old camera taking a picture (so it's not my sound stuff), and the flash are there to make it "cool" to take a screenshot.
[02:17] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: maybe gnome-screenshot has changed since the last version.
[02:18] <coryn|drunk> hitsujiTMO: yes, it has become utterly retarded.
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: yes the audio is there for that effect, but the glitched sounds is a result of a different unrelated bug
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> coryn|drunk: you should be able to simply uninstall gnome-screenshot and install a suitable alternative. maybe have a look here for some alternative apps: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Taking_a_Screenshot
[02:19] <nixm> anybody have any luck with loading ubuntu onto the andriod tablet 4.1?
[02:20] <coryn|drunk> k thanks hitsujiTMO
[02:20] <hitsujiTMO> nixm: #ubuntu-touch for that malarkey
[02:20] <TeamColtra> How can I make tmpfs writable by everyone?
[02:21] <coryn|drunk> TeamColtra: tried chmod?
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: tmpfs isnlt the issue, its the directory permissions
[02:21] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: what paste is the filesystem mounted on?
[02:21] <TeamColtra> coryn|drunk well I know in fstab it specifically mentions the user and group permission...
[02:21] <TeamColtra> So I figured that I had to only use that user / group
[02:22] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: ca
[02:22] <TeamColtra> ?
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: can you pastebin your fstab. has this tmpfs got a dedicated task that it has such options ?
[02:24] <TeamColtra> http://pastie.org/8515896
[02:24] <TeamColtra> last line
[02:25] <TeamColtra> 33 right now is www-data (user/group) which has been working fine... except now I want to run a command manually and I can't
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: mode=1777    that's writable by all
[02:25] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: where 33 is is NOT what that is for.
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: change that to:  tmpfs           /var/tmp         tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777,nosuid,size=6GB                0 0
[02:26] <TeamColtra> is the only thing being updated 0 and 0 ?
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: yup
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: can you tell us the output of: ls -ld /var/tmp
[02:28] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO drwxrwxrwx 5 root root 4096 Nov 28 21:26 /var/tmp
[02:29] <zelrik> encryption is too strong
[02:29] <zelrik> no workaround
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: all looks good there. you have write access to the directory. what exactly are you trying to to that is not working?
[02:30] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: btw how much ram do you have?
[02:30] <TeamColtra> rm: remove write-protected regular file `/var/tmp/http_old/translations/catalogue.en.php'? yes // rm: cannot remove `/var/tmp/http_old/translations/catalogue.en.php': Permission denied
[02:30] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO 16GB
[02:30] <Mongo44> what is the command to shutdown?
[02:31] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: the reason is is because that file is owned by www-data and not you
[02:31] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: sudo poweroff
[02:31] <Mongo44> How about to turn off the screen?
[02:32] <hitsujiTMO> Mongo44: press the power button on the screen
[02:33] <TeamColtra> lol hitsujiTMO
[02:33] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO so maybe I am dumb here but why if the root folder is 777
[02:33] <TeamColtra> are there files still protected by their "owners" and can I chagne that
[02:35] <ubuntuaddicted> flash videos within steam are playing really fast, the audio is at least. can't tell if the video is because the sound is fast motion. lol
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: when anything writes a file, it creates it with its own permission. there are certain things you can do to curb that such as setting the setgid bit
[02:37] <TeamColtra> if I add the www-data user's group to my user will that make life better?
[02:39] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: possibly. depends on what umask the apache or whatever is running the php engine is running with. what permissions do the files have?
[02:40] <somsip> TeamColtra: I do that, and make all dirs in /var/www to be chgrp www-data and chmod g+s
[02:40] <TeamColtra> I don't know I just rebooted the server to give myself a clean slate after fscking with things
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: normally, you'd set a common group for these things and then make sure the server is running with umask 002 and set mode 2777 on the root folder with gid of that of the common group
[02:44] <ubuntuaddicted> anyone else have issues with playing preview videos within steam client? the audio in the videos is playing back really fast
[02:44] <Hetal_> Can someone upload a php 5.5.6 executable for me?
[02:45] <TeamColtra> Actually I am concerned, I don't think my tmpfs is working because my files are still in the folder and rm is super slow (compared to how fast it would be if it was mounted properly)
[02:45] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO how could I tell if my tmpfs was mounted properly?
[02:45] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: the fact that you've set the sticky bit ( the 1 in mode 1777 ) will also go against you. as thsi means that only the files owner, directory owner or super user can delete the file
[02:45] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: its mounted propperly. its just you're not giving it the permissions that you want
[02:45] <somsip> Hetal_: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5 but see !PPA
[02:45] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO yeah but as a tempfs it should be all in my RAM
[02:46] <TeamColtra> and got deleted when I rebooted my server
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: no.
[02:46] <TeamColtra> also files should delete nearly instantly
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: tmpfs also uses the swap
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> ramfs is ramonly
[02:46] <TeamColtra> grrr :\ lol I wasn't aware there was a ramfs
[02:47] <TeamColtra> would it be the same fstab entry only changing out tmpfs for ramfs in the two spots?
[02:47] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: ramfs can also grow dynamically, and eat all your ram too. so you have to be careful with it
[02:48] <TeamColtra> I am not /too/ worried about it.. this whole thing is setup for my cache and my cache is pretty well set
[02:48] <anti_> hi guys im on ubuntu 13:10 and on boot i get system program problem deected and the launch bar dont load or task bar anyone gotany tips n how i can fix this
[02:48] <TeamColtra> it doesn't grow much beyond 4GB
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: afaik, yes its the same entries ( tmpfs is built on top of ramfs )
[02:49] <Mongo44> Should I upgrade to 13? How would I do it?
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: you should also use a different directory. /var/tmp is an already existing folder than may be used by other apps
[02:49] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO I am dumb (as you might have noticed) but would mode=7777 make it do what I want it to do
[02:50] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO not in my setup
[02:50] <TeamColtra> I created it for this
[02:50] <TeamColtra> I have /tmp
[02:50] <ubuntuaddicted> videos within the steam client are playing audio back really fast and it's all jittery, any solution for this?
[02:50] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: no. use 2777
[02:51] <anti_> anyone got any help on my question
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: sorry. use 2777 and give it an id of a group you're in ( or whatever user is running the script is in, or a common group ) or set it as 0777 and just add yourself to the www-data group
[02:53] <TeamColtra> give "it" an id
[02:53] <TeamColtra> I have added group "33" to all the users that do website related things (root, user, and www-data)
[02:54] <TeamColtra> so you are saying add group 33 to this folder?
[02:54] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: so like mode=2777,gid=1000        (if the common group's id is 1000. the initial account has a uid and gid of 1000 as an example )
[02:54] <TeamColtra> so in my example mode=2777,gid=33
[02:55] <Guest42302> ubuntu sis shit
[02:55] <Guest42302> !topic
[02:55] <Guest42302> !docs
[02:55] <Guest42302> !topic
[02:55] <Guest42302> !docs
[02:55] <FloodBot1> Guest42302: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:55] <Guest42302> !forum
[02:55] <Guest42302> !paste
[02:55] <Guest42302> !docs
[02:55] <Guest42302> !docs
[02:55] <Guest42302> !topic
[02:55] <FloodBot1> Guest42302: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <Guest42302> !nigger
[02:56] <TeamColtra> stealthmode!
[02:57] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO (just so you don't have to scroll up) in my example mode=2777,gid=33
[02:57] <highbass1> mann i cant figure this out... my wireless keeps prompting for password... its a fresh linux mint installation...
[02:57] <somsip> !mint | highbass1
[02:57] <highbass1> ok thank you
[02:57] <coventry> If it's a fresh install, I recom
[02:58] <coventry> If it's a fresh install, I recommend installing some closer relative to ubuntu.  The upgrade path for linux mint is painful.
[02:58] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: that will mean that any file/folder created will have the gid of 33 it will work. but in the exact way of doing things mode=0777 might just be easier for you
[02:59]  * Beldar thinks this channel should have your actually using ubuntu check before allowing on.
[02:59] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO I think I have /one/ last question: can I paypal you beer $$?
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: lol
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: i'm good
[03:00] <TeamColtra> Beldar well I am on my macbook air right now, my server is ubuntu (and my home computer is too... but I am not on it )
[03:00] <Hetal_> Beldar : I use multiple OS's to be on this channel
[03:01] <Hetal_> Barely Ubuntu
[03:01] <Random832> what about just banning people who are using mint or crunchbang?
[03:01] <Hetal_> What's wrong with 'mint'?
[03:01] <Random832> Hetal_: people come in here looking for support for it
[03:01] <Hetal_> I feel it comfortable
[03:01] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: i think ubuntu should stop setting ubuntu as the default channel in all the irc clients and then the problem will be solved to be honest
[03:01] <Beldar> Hetal_ I use many myself, however when one is asking questions and needs repairs and is not actually on the OS it is problematic.
[03:01] <daftykins> channel policy isn't really up for discussion last i checked, it's a channel for support of Ubuntu and that's it (:
[03:02] <Hetal_> Wonder who would make the channel Debian next
[03:02] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO I lied... do I need to do anything after editing fstab to make the changes take effect?
[03:02] <TeamColtra> otherwise I am still locked out
[03:02] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, That is fine for some levels of help, some just don't transfer, I'm   linux is linux without much difference believer myself though.
[03:03] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: if you add the www-data group to your user you need relog for the change to take effect
[03:04] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO I thought if I made it 0777 then the usergroup thing wans't needed?
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: its the fact that all the derivatives keep the same default settings that their users join here
[03:04] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO and how do I reload without rebooting my server
[03:04] <Beldar> This channel gets really busy at times with just ubuntu support anyway so allowing all is not real a reality.
[03:04] <MajSlayer777> How would one go about using two programs it use the same port? anyway to have some way they can share the same port? or must i configure one of them to use a dif IP?
[03:04] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: its still needed, it just means you need a common group that owns that folder
[03:05] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, Hat is a not a fact but a opinion. ;)
[03:05] <Beldar> That*
[03:05] <Beldar> facts are empirical
[03:05] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO okay so how do I reload wihtout rebooting?
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: you dont need to reload. just log out of ssh and log back in
[03:06] <TeamColtra> ah
[03:06] <TeamColtra> I can do that
[03:06] <Beldar> generally a hypothesis
[03:06] <hitsujiTMO> Beldar: install mint and run xchat :P
[03:06] <Beldar> hitsujiTMO, I have
[03:06] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO >.> still not letting me :(
[03:06] <Beldar> and all' the other major distos
[03:07] <Hetal_> xchat :p
[03:07] <bazhang> !ot
[03:07] <TeamColtra>   [RuntimeException]     Unable to write in the "/var/tmp/http" directory
[03:07] <profligacy> Happy Thanksgiving fam!
[03:07] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: o.O
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: is that apache or your script giving that error?
[03:08] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: pastebin ls -l /var/tmp
[03:08] <TeamColtra> my script, but if I try to just manually run rm -rf /var/tmp/http it gets mad at me
[03:08] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO drwxr-xr-x 8 www-data www-data 0 Nov 28 22:01 http // drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data 0 Nov 28 22:08 session_data
[03:09] <TeamColtra> (I figured you wouldn't mind me not pastebinning two lines)
[03:09] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: yeah apache is not setting write permissions on the group
[03:09] <TeamColtra> lighttpd
[03:09] <TeamColtra> so create a new group and add www-data and my user to it?
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: no thats not going to do it. you need to get the php engine to 664 the files
[03:10] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: what is running the php engine? php-fpm?
[03:10] <TeamColtra> It seems like there should be a way to make a directory a free for all
[03:11] <TeamColtra> a basic dump folder that anyone can read and write to
[03:11] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO yeah
[03:11] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: i'll see if theres a way to set php-fpms umask
[03:12] <bish0p_> Can I have some help compiling something? I'm new to linux, so I'm following this guide, but I know that the github link is broken, as it was taken down, so git dosen't work
[03:12] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO but PHP is working and writing files fine
[03:12] <bish0p_> if I can find the bianaries, how hard would it be to compile it from there?
[03:12] <TeamColtra> just not when run as CLI
[03:12] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: yeah, you just need it to make the files group writable so you can change them without sudo tho
[03:13] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO <3 this is your area so I will follow your guidence
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: ok to overwrite the default umask for php-fpm you need to edit the service script. can you pastebin /etc/init.d/php5-fpm
[03:17] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO file doesn't exist
[03:17] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: its kinda weird that you can do it for a specific application pool
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: how did you install php-fpm?
[03:18] <TeamColtra> apt
[03:18] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: can you install pastebinit: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:20] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: then run: ls -l /etc/init.d | pastebinit
[03:21] <TeamColtra> THIS API HAS BEEN DISABLED. Please use Pastebin's new API. http://pastebin.com/api -- lol
[03:21] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: lols 2 secs
[03:22] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: then run: ls -l /etc/init.d | pastebinit -b "http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[03:22] <TeamColtra> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492353/
[03:23] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: damn, try: ls -l /etc/init | pastebinit -b "http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[03:24] <TeamColtra> Trying to send an empty directory... doesn't exist
[03:24] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: what OS is this?
[03:24] <TeamColtra> Should be ubuntu... one sec
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: cat /etc/issue
[03:25] <TeamColtra> >.< I am an idiot
[03:25] <TeamColtra> debian :P
[03:25] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[03:26] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: ok. you need to find where php-fpm is being called from and add "--umask 0002" to the start-stop-daemon params as in http://blog.beverlyguillermo.com/post/15817675738/change-file-system-permissions-to-allow-file-uploads
[03:28] <TeamColtra> hitsujiTMO and this is supposed to be the line in fstab? ramfs		/var/tmp	 ramfs defaults,noatime,mode=0777,gid=1000,nosuid,size=6GB		 0 0
[03:28] <hitsujiTMO> TeamColtra: you can remove the gid bit. its pointless with the mode=0777
[03:29] <Windows8User> Hey, looking for some help here.
[03:30] <TeamColtra> <3 thanks hitsujiTMO -- I will have to search out the PHP thing, but will do it in the morning. Turkey is kicking in.
[03:31] <TeamColtra> THanks for all your hlep
[03:31] <Windows8User> Anybody here?
[03:31] <chinghanho> Hi
[03:31] <Beldar> Windows8User, tell your problems to the channel for help.
[03:31] <Windows8User> I need a bit of help to install ubuntu on a clean windows 8 pc that i just bought
[03:31] <Windows8User> I want to put it in a dual boot
[03:31] <Windows8User> Its 8.1 64 bi
[03:31] <Windows8User> *bit
[03:31] <shaun__> !uefi | Windows8User
[03:31] <TeamColtra> Windows8User why not just follow any of the countless dual boot guides?
[03:32] <Windows8User> does the windows installer still work>
[03:32] <Windows8User> (wubi)
[03:32] <shaun__> if you need to deal with UEFI you should check that out... if it's not UEFI then just booting off the install disc and using the guided setup to install both will work
[03:33] <Beldar> Windows8User, here is another to complement the uefi link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  Wubi does not work.
[03:33] <Windows8User> if i dont need uefi, can i just partition my drive like normal
[03:33] <Windows8User> or will that kill my windows 8?
[03:34] <Beldar> Windows8User, You have gpt partitioning and a gpt partition table do some research.
[03:34] <Beldar> and not here
[03:39] <nineTHe> I have the same laptop as you (acer aspire v7-582P) and I am having troubles with my audio. I am wondering if you have the same issues and if you know of a solution.
[04:05] <Danato> I never got to connect to the wifi i usually use with default ubuntu, to fix that i usually install kde-full and it works without a problem, but i would prefer to keep the unity light DM. So what could make that wifi work on kde and not on unity?
[04:06] <Danato> or is there a way to install kde without changing unity's light dm?
[04:10] <Danato> . . .
[04:10] <acovrig> I am trying to setup webacula, and apache/PHP can't find zend, why?
[04:10] <acovrig> I've installed zend-framework
[04:12] <AjaxFury> Hello
[04:13] <wafflejock> AjaxFury: hello
[04:14] <wafflejock> acovrig: you should try the webacula channel if it exists
[04:14] <wafflejock> acovrig: or zend
[04:14] <Beldar> Danato, Strange, should work on both, I do see problems with a second DE auto connecting if the first is not set to do so is all.
[04:15] <nixm> pope wants to get you all microchipped into their new world order
[04:15] <Beldar> I would not use wifi unless that was all there was it is easily captured and broken into.
[04:15] <nixm> Jesus is coming :D
[04:15] <nixm> o/
[04:15] <AjaxFury> :D
[04:15] <Beldar> !ot | nixm
[04:16] <nixm> <3
[04:16] <nixm> Beldar <3
[04:16] <Danato> Beldar: I also think its strange, i dont know whats the reason, but when i install kde, that network works jst fine
[04:16] <AjaxFury> Anybody know Clerk?
[04:16] <Beldar> !ops | nixm
[04:16] <nixm> !thanks | Beldar
[04:16] <AjaxFury> Anybody ever heard of Clerk?
[04:17] <nixm> wafflejock good to see you again :)
[04:17] <shady> have a problem with ubuntu one i cant sync b/w the server and my laptop and i received a error message (local and server roots are different)
[04:17] <drizzle> not me - what is Clerk?
[04:17] <wafflejock> nixm: you too hope everyone is doing well and having a good thanksgiving or chaunakah or Thursday or whatever :)
[04:17] <AjaxFury> Clerk is a famous "hacker" and DoX's famous Call of Duty hackers. He called bomb squad on several schools today in Canada.
[04:18] <nixm> wafflejock :D
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !ot | AjaxFury
[04:18] <Danato> Beldar: I use a laptop, when i go out, ive got to use wifi. With the default unity i can only connect to a wpa wifi, but I'd like to connect to a wpa2 one, which doesnt work unless i install kde
[04:18] <nixm> !chanakah | wafflejock
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> nixm: stop abusing the bot
[04:18] <Beldar> Danato, I understand but be aware all it takes is packet capture to get into any wifi.
[04:19] <MajSlayer777> I need to allow a port to accept incomming and outgoing connections for two pieces of software, how does one do this?
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | MajSlayer777
[04:20] <nixm> lotuspsychje please forgive me :)
[04:20] <shady> have a problem with ubuntu one i cant sync b/w the server and my laptop and i received a error message (local and server roots are different)
[04:20] <MajSlayer777> so thru the firewall i can port share?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> MajSlayer777: what you mean by 'share'?
[04:21] <Danato> i guess ill jst install kde and keep lightdm
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Danato: its best you detail out your hardware and problem here in channel
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Danato: wifi chipset, ubuntu version etc..
[04:22] <MajSlayer777> well heres what i need to do, I have two pieces of softwate that use port 1935(stand RTMP streaming port) and I need to have both pieces of software work
[04:22] <john_doe_jr> I need to install log4net_1.2.9-105_all.deb ….any idea how I can get this package?
[04:22] <MajSlayer777> I have 5 ips, on my dedicated server, one being public. so not sure if i need to make a second IP public or what..
[04:22] <shady> have a problem with ubuntu one i cant sync b/w the server and my laptop and i received a error message (local and server roots are different)
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: apt-cache search log4net, 2 lib packs showing up...are those what you need?
[04:24] <Beldar> shady, You can get help try to be patient, the channel asks for 10 min intervals on reposts.
[04:24] <Danato> lotuspsychje: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter, ubuntu 13.10
[04:25] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: you can get another IP, or you can make one of the softwares use a different port, but you cannot make both software use the same port and the same ip
[04:25] <shady> sorry but all my work is on it and I'm really depressed
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | Danato
[04:25] <MajSlayer777> aye pfifo kinda what i figured, well i have 5 ips, guess i need to make one public?
[04:26] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: I'm following a tutorial @ http://www.daniellench.com/category/learn/ for installing ifolder…step 5…but when I do a 'sudo dpkg -i log4net_1.2.9-105_all.deb' it says 'nothing found'…any idea why?
[04:26] <buu> john_doe_jr: Because the file doesn't exist there?
[04:26] <pfifo> MajSlayer777: dont think you know what your talking about there, an IP address is either public or its private, cant switch back andd forth
[04:26] <john_doe_jr> buu: deb file is on ubuntu right?
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: thats because this package doesnt show in repos, only those 2 libs
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !info log4net | john_doe_jr
[04:26] <buu> john_doe_jr: dpkg is on ubuntu, yes.
[04:27] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: well, how could I get that package b/c the liblog4net1.2-cil doesn't work
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: liblog4net-cil-dev - highly configurable logging API for the CLI
[04:28] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: how would I install log4net_1.2.9-105_all.deb though…where would I get that package though b/c that is the package I need
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: do you run ubuntu server?
[04:30] <shrimpy> dang
[04:31] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: yes it's an ubuntu server
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: that url shows an opensuse repo...
[04:32] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: really where
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: if the package doesnt show on ubuntu repos here, installing that package is at your own risk mate
[04:32] <john_doe_jr> ?
[04:32] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: yup I know
[04:33] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: did u find it?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: can you tell us what you are trying exactly on ubuntu server?
[04:34] <MajSlayer777> so pfifo, whats the answer to my problem? how to i get two pieces of software that use the same port working? I have one webcam chat software where the server is based out of the UK, the other is Red5 running on my server.
[04:35] <duoi> hi all
[04:35] <duoi> how can i view my DNS through the command line?
[04:35] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: well, I'm following the instruction @ http://www.daniellench.com/2009/11/ifolder-install-on-ubuntu/ …@ step 5 it says that I need to install a specific version of log4net
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: maybe you should follow the official help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/iFolder
[04:36] <john_doe_jr> lotuspsychje: I tried that but it failed to build using those instructions
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: your url shows log4net from an opensuse repo..we can support that mate
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> john_doe_jr: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know howto install Ifolder properly?
[04:38] <haskell> how can I check if my os is 32 bit or 64 but?
[04:38] <haskell> bit*
[04:38] <haskell> I ran: uname -a
[04:38] <haskell> and got:  #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:42:18 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:38] <fishcooker> this is my snippet of  lshw' output command http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492542/
[04:38] <shady> sorry but all my work is on it and I'm really depressed
[04:38] <shady> have a problem with ubuntu one i cant sync b/w the server and my laptop and i received a error message (local and server roots are different)
[04:39] <haskell> does that mean I have 64 bit os, since it says #64-ubuntu...
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> haskell: x64 is 64bit
[04:39] <fishcooker> this memory tes is fail..
[04:39] <fishcooker> how to know our board support ddr3 or ddr4
[04:39] <fishcooker> ?
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> haskell: if you have 64bit ubuntu installed that means your arch supports 64bit
[04:39] <haskell> lotuspsychje, but it says x86_64 three times later on, so I wasn't sure if it was x86 or x64
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> fishcooker: plz join ##hardware for such questions
[04:41] <Mississauga> are there text to speech apps with naturally sounding voice? names??
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !info espeak | Mississauga
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Mississauga: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[04:43] <MajSlayer777> okay pifo dont think switching my red5 server to a new port will be a problem
[04:43] <MajSlayer777> that i do have control over being its on my server
[04:44] <MajSlayer777> thanks
[04:45] <shady> have a problem with ubuntu one i cant sync b/w the server and my laptop and i received a error message (local and server roots are different)
[04:45] <crodjer> Does Ubuntu LTS recieve *only* security updates or the packages are updated too - like office suite, firefox, compilers, interpreters.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> shady: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139077/file-sync-error-local-and-server-roots-are-different-root-mismatch-in-windo
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> !lts | crodjer
[04:47] <shady> lotuspsychje: thank you
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: everything will be updated on your lts for 5 years mate
[04:47] <crodjer> Oh, okay cool.
[04:47] <crodjer> It will not end up with obsolete packages like debain stable right?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: welcome to ubuntu security and stability
[04:47] <crodjer> lotuspsychje: Thanks.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: debian got other repos, they cant me mixxed up
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !repo | crodjer
[04:49] <crodjer> lotuspsychje: Okay.
[04:49] <crodjer> I am setting up a system for my parents which will not break like windows and will also not need much administration (I will not be around to do that).
[04:49] <onca> Could someone advise me on how to utilize 4 50G SSDs? should i use raid or zfs
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: i installed ubuntu for my 75 year old father, he never been able to break it like windows :p
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> !raid | onca
[04:50] <lucido> My libappt is segfaulting: [  110.987716] apt-check[2930]: segfault at 7f380165a832 ip 00007f32052879d6 sp 00007fffff135610 error 6 in libapt-pkg.so.4.12.0[7f3205227000+135000]
[04:50] <lucido> anyone seen something like this before?
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: if you set up the machine at their wishes, they will be able to use the machine for years
[04:50] <crodjer> Hmm
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: i mean installing the software they use the most..
[04:51] <crodjer> Right, I understand.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: you wont have any work after, beside updating their system..
[04:52] <crodjer> Hmm, I'll check in remotely from time to time
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: good idea! if you do it ssh, install denyhosts too for security reasons
[04:54] <crodjer> lotuspsychje: Yes. The connection here is dynamic IP, so first I'll have to figure out a way so that this system here publishes the IP somewhere, plus the router forwards connections to this system.
[04:54] <motheus> hey guys
[04:54] <motheus> im having a problem with fglrx, it doesnt work
[04:55] <motheus> i tried last stable and beta with 13.10
[04:55] <motheus> no one?
[04:56] <motheus> where is the ppl today
[04:58] <motheus> hi
[04:58] <motheus> im having issues with ati drivers
[04:58] <motheus> any gelp
[04:58] <motheus> help?
[04:59] <motheus> oh shit
[04:59] <motheus> wtf
[05:00] <koyetsu> does anyone have an updated tutorial for setting up a pxe install server? everything i'm seeing is based on ubuntu 9 and 10. i plan to use it with 12.04.3 and seems to have been some major changes in how daemons work
[05:00] <MajSlayer777> no point in using linux for any kind of graphics anyhow
[05:00] <MajSlayer777> it's not a gaming operating system, to say the least
[05:00] <cliffreich> im too lazy to install windows
[05:02] <trelane> koyetsu, dunno how much custom stuff there is in ubuntu, but dhcpd with the correct options (66 IIRC), and a TFTP server
[05:03] <trelane> MajSlayer777, yes, Valve agrees with you on this.
[05:04] <koyetsu> i know the requirements. unfortunately seems to be more complicated than i was hoping
[05:04] <Beldar> cliffreich, In general since your issue is graphics posting the actual hardware is helpful.
[05:05] <Beldar> to the channel of course
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> crodjer: you can also pass by your parents once in a while and say hello :p
[05:14] <DRice7> so I just clobbered my vty7 connection to lightdm by trying to run vnc11server - any way to get my screen back without rebooting? It seems lightdm is still running and the background processes (file transfers that I don't want to stop) are still running
[05:14] <mysqlstudent> Hi all. I read online that Gentoo is "snappier" and faster than Ubuntu, but that it is better suited for the enthusiast due to its complexity. Would you guys say that is true? I'm a Linux noob (about 5 minutes of experience), and I'd like to avoid incurring too much start-up costs in terms of time to just set-up a drive to store my multimedia (videos)
[05:15] <daftykins> mysqlstudent: gentoo is for masochists
[05:15] <DRice7> rofl
[05:16] <Guest9090> If you start building Gentoo right now..you may be up and running by Sunday....maybe
[05:16] <hellslinger> hahah
[05:16] <XMLnewbi> so i was expermenting with running php scrips on an infinite loop. realized its not good and my server would get super slow, few seconds lag in ssh. killall php didnt work, but I killed all the process's with kill -9. Not its all cleaned up and still running slow
[05:17] <hellslinger> echo "-j5" >> /etc/make.conf
[05:17] <XMLnewbi> System load:  0.08       Memory usage: 23%   but its still like 2-5 second lag on every ssh call
[05:18] <mysqlstudent> Guest9090: so you're saying I should stick with Ubuntu?
[05:18] <mysqlstudent> Guest9090: yeah the guy who suggested Gentoo was throwing around a lot of computer terms -- sounded like a major enthusiast
[05:19] <Guest9090> Just warning you that building from source is sloooooooow.  And not just the initial install....but updating the system thereafter.
[05:20] <Guest9090> I have 100 updates in apt-get or pacman...it takes 10 mins.  In Gentoo, expect that to take an hour or better.
[05:20] <cliffreich> you can run gentoo in 1 day
[05:20] <locoloco> @mysqlstudent: not really a matter of this or that distro being "better suited" for one target audience or another. This is gnu/linux! You are free mold it to your liking. That said, Ubuntu is more turn-key than Gentoo so if timing is important, go for it.
[05:20] <cliffreich> or less, 1 day if you want a heavy kde or gnome
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> guys keep topic to ubuntu support plz
[05:20] <hellslinger> the last time I used gentoo, in 2007, I was able to get a machine going in less than a day, but it had 4 processors and ran distcc
[05:21] <DRice7> After copying files from an NTFS external drive to a zfs tank - i have chowned the dirs and i'm still getting a permissions denied - any thoughts?
[05:21] <hellslinger> that was with all of KDE and web browsers building from source
[05:21] <mysqlstudent> while i don't understand what most of you guys are saying, it seems that most of you are suggesting Ubuntu for me since it is the easiest to set-up
[05:21] <mysqlstudent> OK. Thanks for the help Linux pros
[05:21] <hellslinger> DRice7: you might need to mount NTFS drive with ntfs-3g, not standard ntfs
[05:21] <Guest9090> All depends on what you install.  Obviously a full KDE setup will take more time than an xmonad or openbox setup.
[05:22] <crodjer> lotuspsychje: Heh, I try to do that but it is hard as they live far from where I work.
[05:22] <cliffreich> weird thing, seems like my ATI card wont work on gentoo nor ubuntu with amd drivers
[05:22] <hellslinger> mysqlstudent: any distro is ok, if you want a system that will be up and running in less than an hour, debian, ubuntu, mint, fedora, are good choices
[05:23] <mysqlstudent> hellslinger: OK. thanks for the confirmation
[05:23] <Guest9090> Virtualbox is your friend when trying new distros.  You are free to try any OS you want...with no risks.
[05:23] <XMLnewbi> any ideas on debugging a slow ssh portal when memory and system load is low?
[05:23] <DRice7> hellslinger: so there is no way to get control once it's been copied? it definitely took up spacce in the pool
[05:23] <locoloco> @mysqlstudent: go download the image and follow the install instructions. You can tweak the perceived "snappy-ness" later. Welcome to Ubuntu!
[05:24] <mysqlstudent> okay thanks. is ubuntu a good solution for me if I play a lot of video games via Steam?
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> XMLnewbi: what is it you wanna have faster?
[05:24] <hellslinger> DRice7: I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. If I understood you correctly, you will have to remount the drive as ntfs-3g entirely
[05:24] <DRice7> mysqlstudent: depends on what games, mate
[05:24] <hellslinger> mysqlstudent: if you play steam games, install ubuntu
[05:24] <XMLnewbi> I want to press ls   and have the dir list show up in under 5 seconds
[05:25] <XMLnewbi> its also slow on each keystroke
[05:25] <DRice7> Well the drive mounted fine, the files copied fine - I just can't get into the directories I copied - are we on the same page?
[05:25] <koyetsu> mysqlstudent: if you want to game i would use windows and run virtualbox of vmware player to vm your linux install
[05:25] <koyetsu> or pick up a cheap comp for a linux box as a seperate entity
[05:25] <hellslinger> DRice7: yeah.. so what do you mean by can't get into the directories.. permission denied?
[05:25] <DRice7> yeah
[05:25] <cliffreich> dual boot is better
[05:25] <mysqlstudent> hellslinger: I thought a lot of games don't run on Linux (Diablo 3, Starcraft 2, etc.)
[05:25] <Guest9090> mysqlstudent: If gaming is mainly what you use your computer, you probably should be on Windows.  If you are a linux user that is a casual gamer, Ubuntu is probably best.
[05:26] <cliffreich> you can install linux and windows on the same computer, just install windows first
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> XMLnewbi: if the net speed is good, you will need to cleanup machine for system speed
[05:26] <DRice7> gaming box = windows + extra linux box
[05:26] <locoloco> @XMLnewbi: have you traceroute'd the SSH target? Any hickups along the way?
[05:26] <hellslinger> mysqlstudent: you're correct. steam is native to ubuntu so you won't have to fuss to get it running. there are many games that do run, but not all, as you said
[05:26] <Guest9090> mysqlstudent: Games only work on linux if they were written to work on linux.  Most big game companies only release for Windows and consoles.
[05:26] <koyetsu> cliffreich: i've found that doing a base install of linux in a vm then shutdown and make a copy is very nice. that way if you break it, which a new user will do a lot, you can be back in moments
[05:27] <mysqlstudent> Guest9090: OK. Thanks. I recently unplugged a WD 2TB internal HDD from my desktop (it was off) to clean the case and it was unrecognized upon starting my computer back up. It showed "unallocated" on two rectangles on the drive in Computer Management. After following a few online guides, I got it to show "RAW" instead. I did not re-format, as I would like to avoid losing 2 TB of data. While posing this question to some people
[05:27] <mysqlstudent> in #hardware, one suggested I store my multimedia files on a Linux drive. Hence, my presence here
[05:27] <XMLnewbi> I was running php scripts on infinate loops, when too much was running at same time it was same symptions, soo bogged down each keystroke had lag. I killed the process and it went back to normal. Im sure I got all of them this time and it still bogged down
[05:28] <DRice7> mysqlstudent, I have my main box as windows for gaming...and i have a NAS box running Linux for my multimedia storage/streaming
[05:28] <koyetsu> mysqlstudent: depends on what you are are trying to do with them
[05:29] <koyetsu> if you don't know linux but want media serving and everything up in minuites of config i would buy a synology nas not that expensive and VERY nice
[05:29] <koyetsu> the problem with linux is if you don't know what you are doing you WILL break your media storage and lose or appear to lose everything
[05:30] <mysqlstudent> DRice7: koyetsu: yeah, I just bought a drive less Synology 2-bay NAS.
[05:30] <mysqlstudent> koyetsu: well, it appears I have no idea how to use Windows 7 in addition to being clueless about Linux. I have no idea how/why my HDD would go "RAW" upon unplugging
[05:30] <hellslinger> mysqlstudent: NAS is a good way to go
[05:31] <koyetsu> then slap 2 WD red 3TB in that in mirrow
[05:31] <mysqlstudent> I think it's a security feature, but Western Digital doesn't have much support on this and there are no real guides online that I could find. I mean, people must unplug their WD internal HDD right? Not sure why this happened to me
[05:31] <koyetsu> mysqlstudent i've never had that happen before
[05:32] <locoloco> @mysqlstudent: second @hellslinger's suggestion, NAS may fit the bill.
[05:32] <koyetsu> could have been you have write cache turned on was writing something and when you unplugged it it corrupted your file tables
[05:33] <mysqlstudent> I have two WD HDD for my desktop. Both worked fine. Shut down. Unplug both. Clean case. Re-plug. Start-up. WD HDD with OS boots fine. WD HDD with video is "unallocated" then "RAW" and unrecoverable via MiniPower Tools or EaseUS.
[05:34] <koyetsu> no idea
[05:34] <mysqlstudent> thanks for your help everyone. appreciate the insight of comp. enthusiasts
[05:34] <Beldar> mysqlstudent, There is one WD HD release that does not work with linux, I forget the model, you might look on the web to see if it is this one.
[05:35] <hellslinger> NAS is just a good idea anyway, you'll never have to depend on a computer to access your storage
[05:36] <koyetsu> i fricken hate pxe.....could they have made this much harder to use? and with synology you can access your stuff on your mobile device too
[05:36] <koyetsu> synology with dsm 4.3 is pretty sweet
[05:37] <koyetsu> 1 trick you can do with it is turn any network printer into an ios usable printer, hehe no need to go buy special hp printer
[05:38] <daftykins> koyetsu: ooh interesting
[05:38] <daftykins> i wonder if that works with android too
[05:38] <koyetsu> should
[05:38] <daftykins> as i saw some stupid HP print service became part of my Nexus 4 after android 4.4 rolled out
[05:38] <koyetsu> lemme look at mine real quick
[05:39] <koyetsu> you can also enable google cloud print on it
[05:40] <hellslinger> daftykins: I'm pretty sure the android 4.4 stuff requires google print device or hp
[05:40] <koyetsu> i like it cause i do all my reading/research on my ipad and if i wanna hard copy something i can now just hit the print button rather than email a link to myself
[05:40] <hellslinger> I have an old brother 2070 that doesn't get seen by android 4.4 devices. I don't know how to make it work
[05:40] <daftykins> hellslinger: ah well, i don't even print things from my PC let alone a phone XD
[05:41] <daftykins> first thing i did was disable it
[05:41] <koyetsu> i'm using a 2270dw and an hp color laser 2600n
[05:41] <hellslinger> ahh. I wish it did work :(
[05:41] <koyetsu> oh well off to bed have to be up early for work tomorrow
[05:42] <kylemccool> night
[05:44] <locoloco> @hellslinger: perhaps try Brother iPrint&Scan app in the Play Store?
[05:44] <hellslinger> locoloco: That sounds like what I need, thanks
[05:47] <mysqlstudent> yeah, thanks for the help comp. enthusiasts
[05:47] <hellslinger> locoloco: heh... yep that did the trick. thanks!
[05:48] <locoloco> hellslinger: glad to hear!
[05:48] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to have smc fan control on a MacPro
[05:50] <mysqlstudent> hey hellslinger, can i PM you about your NAS?
[05:51] <hellslinger> sure
[05:51] <hellslinger> mysqlstudent: sure
[05:55] <meddy> anyone here?
[05:56] <meddy> anyone here is this the channel for getting support on ubuntu?
[05:56] <somsip> !ask | meddy
[05:56] <meddy> ok  I have the problem can't update software repo and i tired getting rid all of the PPA i added and it still doesn't work
[05:57] <somsip> !ppa-purge
[05:57] <somsip> meddy: did you use that?
[05:57] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to have smc fan control on a MacPro I am running ubuntu 13.10
[05:57] <meddy> I removed all of the PPA I added
[05:57] <somsip> meddy: how did you do it. Did you use ppa-purge?
[05:58] <meddy> i did it on software sources
[05:58] <meddy> but when it reloads to update it tells me  don't have an internet conenction
[06:00] <somsip> meddy: it would probably be helpful if you did a manual update in the command line and posted the output. Do you know how to do that?
[06:00] <meddy> nope :(
[06:00] <somsip> meddy: do you know how to open a terminal?
[06:00] <meddy> yes
[06:01] <meddy> it open
[06:01] <somsip> meddy: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get update" and see what errors you get. Use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to paste the result
[06:01] <somsip> meddy: and share the URL so we can see it
[06:02] <pabs3> I have a server where one drive is marked as failed in /proc/mdstat (RAID1, 2 drives). I went to look at smartctl but the device node no longer exists. thoughts?
[06:03] <meddy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492712/
[06:05] <meddy> you got my URL?
[06:05] <meddy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492712/
[06:05] <somsip> meddy: patience
[06:05] <meddy> sorry I this is my first time on IRC
[06:06] <somsip> meddy: according to this, you can delete the references to cdrom:// in the sources.list. This should explain how http://is.gd/J2RZ5Z
[06:08] <meddy> can I show you a screenshot what I have in my software sources?
[06:08] <meddy> i dont know how to...Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT
[06:09] <somsip> !pastebin | meddy
[06:09] <MajSlayer777> trying to get Unetbottin to install 13.10 to a USB(new sandisk 32gig) well seemed to work fine till the end, now its saying No disk drive in \device\harddisk1\dr1
[06:09] <somsip> meddy: so use imagebin.org or similar
[06:09] <MajSlayer777> can anyone recommend some other program to install ubuntu 13.10 to a usb stick?
[06:10] <meddy> here it is ... I got rid of all but left the default.....http://imagebin.org/279418
[06:10] <somsip> MajSlayer777: unetbootin possibly
[06:10] <Bray90820> How can i increas the speed of the scroll wheal on my mouse without increasing pointer speed
[06:10] <MajSlayer777> seems to be having a fit installing the /grub folder
[06:11] <MajSlayer777> somsip thats what i'm using..
[06:11] <MajSlayer777> oh well i can always try again, sometimes it just fails
[06:11] <somsip> meddy: see how in that link it referred to removing unecessary sources in the Additional tab. So try doing that and post a screenshot of the Additional tab
[06:12] <meddy> additional tab?  I'm lost here
[06:12] <somsip> meddy: do you know what a tab is?
[06:12] <meddy> yes but i don't see one that says additional only other software
[06:12] <somsip> MajSlayer777: http://is.gd/BY5TB8
[06:13] <somsip> meddy: I can see it in your screenshot. After Other Software is Updates, then Authenticaion, then Additional
[06:13] <meddy> you mean additional drivers ?
[06:14] <MajSlayer777> thanks somsip
[06:14] <somsip> MajSlayer777: np. Maybe something in there that's useful
[06:14] <MajSlayer777> yeah i think it just needs admin permissions
[06:15] <MajSlayer777> windows is now telling me it wasn't installed correctly... most often it need admin rights then
[06:15] <locoloco> anyone know of a way to get bash/zsh key bindings to work in Unity?
[06:15] <MajSlayer777> give unetbootin a second good, kinda like it
[06:19] <meddy> what you wanted with my additional drivers tab?
[06:22] <locoloco> Bray90820: http://askubuntu.com/questions/285689/increase-mouse-wheel-scroll-speed
[06:22] <Bray90820> locoloco: it's actually an apple magic mouse
[06:22] <Bray90820> would it work the same way
[06:25] <locoloco> Bray90820: not sure, give it a whirl or take a close look at http://askubuntu.com/search?q=magic+mouse
[06:25] <Bray90820> alright
[06:28] <locoloco> Bray90820: there's also this from the community help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleMagicMouse
[06:28] <kriskropd> has anyone ever had problems getting 'links2 -g' to display document colors? It seems to be ignoring document colors no matter what I tell it to do
[06:28] <Bray90820> Thanks
[06:28] <Bray90820> The mouse works just the scrolling is a bit slow
[06:34] <locoloco> Bray90820: http://askubuntu.com/questions/261791/how-to-set-the-scroll-speed-of-apple-magic-mouse
[06:34] <Bray90820> Hey thanks
[06:35] <locoloco> np
[06:35] <Bray90820> Is the hid the name of the mouse
[06:37] <Bray90820> locoloco: it's a bluetooth mouse so is the name of it the hid
[06:38] <locoloco> hid is short for human interface device and is a class identifier. hid_magicmouse is simply the name of the mouse.
[06:39] <gdoteof> i am trying to get namecoin ".bit" domains to work; can someone help me figure out how to have a 'fallback' dns server sot aht when i do something like "something.bit" and the original dns fails it will try some alt one?
[06:45] <iSkyccyi> hello
[06:45] <sarvesh_> can anybody tell the best messenger for ubuntu, defalt messenge, empathy doesn't update informations quickly..
[06:50] <Bray90820> How would i find the HID of a bluetooth device
[06:50] <sarvesh_> hello, anybody here!
[06:52] <x86_128> Bray90820, i don't know.
[06:53] <Bray90820> I have a bluetooth mouse and i need to find the hid to change the acceleration
[06:53] <x86_128> i still dunno
[06:53] <x86_128> :p
[06:53] <Bray90820> ok
[06:56] <Bray90820> Anyone else knoe?
[06:56] <Bray90820> know
[06:56] <x86_128> well
[06:56] <x86_128> Maybe I google for you
[06:57] <Bray90820> if you want
[06:57] <x86_128> Most people don't like googling for you, but I must be the only one who does :p
[06:57] <Bray90820> :P
[06:57] <Bray90820> It's up to you
[06:58] <x86_128> maybe this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothRemoteControl
[07:01] <vocx> Bray90820, try writing in the command line "lsusb" That should list devices.
[07:04] <Neytiri> i have a insain question, how do i bridge eth0 with a tunnel so i can pass traffic between 2 locations
[07:05] <x86_128> http://i.imgur.com/ALMPYIg.png <== my problem, the same thing happens to every program runned under wine
[07:08] <x86_128> should you not know, say "I don't know" like i did to Bray90820, at least.
[07:15] <fingertips> it is your problem
[07:16] <daftykins> Neytiri: look up how to use 'bridge-utils'
[07:16] <jmgk> hi al
[07:16] <Neytiri> i've tried and it gives me the error can't add tun0 to bridge br0: Invalid argument
[07:17] <Payton> How much should i allow for my HHD partition on ubuntu?
[07:17] <Payton> All of my 1TB drive?
[07:17] <daftykins> Payton: are you just trying it out or will this be a proper install for using?
[07:17] <daftykins> using full time
[07:17] <Payton> daftykins: Proper install
[07:18] <daftykins> and is it the only OS to go on this 1TB disk?
[07:18] <Payton> daftykins: Yes
[07:19] <daftykins> Payton: i would make a 250MB /boot ext4, a 50GB / ext4, a swap partition the size of your system RAM (or just 4GB if you don't want to hibernate/suspend/sleep) and the rest as /home ext4
[07:19] <Payton> daftykins: Good because i did exactly that....
[07:19] <daftykins> you could even go up to 100GB /home if you plan to install lots of software
[07:20] <daftykins> oops 100GB /
[07:20] <meddy> I'm havving problem updating my system... i get the failed to up date repository  message
[07:20] <Payton> 100MB*
[07:20] <Payton> ?
[07:20] <Payton> xD
[07:20] <daftykins> nah 100GB root partition "/"
[07:20] <daftykins> is an option
[07:20] <Payton> Okai
[07:20] <daftykins> but i doubt you'd ever come close to filling that even with lots of software
[07:20] <daftykins> so 50GB may be plenty
[07:21] <Payton> daftykins: Thanks, i just didn't want to screw my pc up
[07:21] <nisstyre> 30 gb is probably more than enough
[07:21] <daftykins> meddy: go to system settings and run software and sources, i think it's called, then find the option to pick a different mirror
[07:21] <daftykins> nisstyre: sure but with 1TB to play with, who cares :>
[07:21] <nisstyre> I have 27 gb for / and I have 2.3 free atm
[07:22] <buu> Payton: Just make two partitions: /swap at 4gb or whatever and / at 1tb
[07:22] <meddy> I already tried
[07:22] <meddy> i used the find best server optoiopn
[07:22] <meddy> option
[07:22] <buu> Which I think is what it defaults to anyways
[07:22] <Payton> buu: Would that change anything?
[07:22] <nisstyre> you don't necessarily need a swap partition
[07:22] <Payton> I know
[07:22] <daftykins> meddy: maybe just pick archive.ubuntu.com then
[07:22] <Payton> With my 16GB RAM im fine
[07:23] <nisstyre> yeah if you have 16 gb of memory then there is no need for swap
[07:23] <meddy> ok let me try
[07:23] <daftykins> nisstyre: you're forgetting the option of suspend/hibernate
[07:23] <Payton> Ok so just dedicate all to root ?
[07:23] <buu> Payton: Yes
[07:23] <Payton> Okai
[07:23] <nisstyre> daftykins: does that require swap?
[07:23] <nisstyre> I don't think it does
[07:23] <daftykins> i fully disagree with this advice
[07:23] <daftykins> at least a separate /home is good for any potential reinstalls
[07:23] <daftykins> nisstyre: yeah it's what it writes the RAM to
[07:24] <buu> If you're reinstalling you should back up /home anyways
[07:24] <buu> Regardless of partitions.
[07:24] <meddy> nope doesn't work
[07:24] <daftykins> yeah right
[07:24] <daftykins> 'cause everyone does things that way ¬_¬
[07:24] <daftykins> meddy: are you sure that system has a proper working network and internet connection?
[07:25] <buu> multi partitioned installs are mostly a holdover from multiuser systems
[07:25] <meddy> yes how would I be here on this channel
[07:25] <buu> And especially multi-process and multi-user
[07:25] <buu> These days are machines do one thing
[07:25] <buu> *our
[07:25] <daftykins> meddy: here in the developed world some of us, believe it or not, own TWO or MORE computers! :D
[07:25] <buu> Fucking dyslexia
[07:25] <FloodBot1> buu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <daftykins> language.
[07:25] <meddy> why you think i live in the developing world
[07:26] <nisstyre> daftykins: suspending to disk isn't necessary
[07:26] <daftykins> that wasn't what i inferred by that statement
[07:26] <Payton>  
[07:26] <daftykins> it was all part of my amusing joke
[07:26] <daftykins> nisstyre: no, hence why i said it was an option
[07:26] <nisstyre> daftykins: I mean you can still have suspend without it
[07:26] <daftykins> but by not offering it in your advice you prevent that option
[07:26] <daftykins> eh, nm then
[07:26] <meddy> we got 3PCs here 2 tablets a ps3 a chromecast and an roku box connected to this network... but something gotta be wrong....
[07:27] <nisstyre> it just saves everything in memory instead
[07:27] <daftykins> suspend != hibernate
[07:27] <nisstyre> daftykins: I'm going based on these definitions, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Suspend_and_Hibernate
[07:27] <daftykins> meddy: right so can you use paste.ubuntu.com to share what it looks like when you run "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal?
[07:27] <meddy> ok sure
[07:28] <daftykins> arch linux links in an Ubuntu chan :'(
[07:28] <meddy> here it is ....http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492915/
[07:29] <daftykins> meddy: can you take the disc out of the drive?
[07:30] <meddy> you mean optical drive ? i don't have any disc in
[07:30] <daftykins> meddy: all of the normal repos are updating fine, but for some reason you have errors referring to the CD
[07:30] <daftykins> also a nexus7 repo 0o
[07:30] <daftykins> is this a tablet install?
[07:30] <meddy> nope just tried to download the installer that install ubuntu on my nexus 7 but the update command didn't work so yeah this is on a PC
[07:31] <daftykins> sounds like it messed with some things
[07:32] <daftykins> meddy: so none of those appear to actually be a problem, i'd be willing to bet you could still run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" still and updates will still come through normally
[07:33] <meddy> apparently it up to date but it been a while tho
[07:34] <fingertips> Ben_Dover: take it easy (F4)
[07:34] <fingertips> Keep the chnnel clear for support (F1)
[07:34] <fingertips> Ben_Dover: take it easy (F4)
[07:34] <fingertips> That's enough (F3)
[07:34] <daftykins> fingertips: stop that.
[07:35] <fingertips> stop that (F5)
[07:35] <fingertips> Ben_Dover: take it easy (F4)
[07:35] <daftykins> i love that you think you're original :(
[07:36] <fingertips> daftykins: quit while youre ahead (F9)
[07:36] <gehrc> Hey everyone, I'm trying to set up SSH Aliases and it doesn't seem to be accepting them when I try to clone from GitHub.
[07:36] <gehrc> It seems to be taking the alias names as the actual hostnames.
[07:36] <daftykins> !ops | fingertips
[07:37] <fingertips> daftykins: that's enough (F5)
[07:37] <Flannel> fingertips: Please stop, thanks.
[07:37] <fingertips> !ops|daftykins
[07:37] <daftykins> ty Flannel
[07:38] <gehrc> I should mention that I'm trying to do this through www-data, but I don't think that's my problem...
[07:38] <Bray90820> vocx: it's connected via bluetooth so lsusb won't work
[07:39] <Bray90820> sorry i took so long getting back to you
[07:40] <josebonome> hello
[07:40] <Bray90820> hi
[07:41] <josebonome> i need some help
[07:42] <josebonome> can some one help me to install my nvidia drivers ..?
[07:42] <daftykins> !nvidia
[07:43] <josebonome> i tried everyting already
[07:44] <daftykins> josebonome: well if you tried EVERYTHING then it must be impossible
[07:46] <gehrc> It looks like it's not using my aliases at all actually... trying regular SSH and it gives me the same error.
[07:46] <josebonome> any help ..?
[07:46] <somsip> !details | josebonome
[07:47] <josebonome> geforce 420m gt
[07:47] <josebonome> install my nvidia geforce 420m gt
[07:47] <josebonome> ubuntu 12.04
[07:49] <josebonome> anything ..?
[07:50] <gehrc> Did the SSH User Configuration File location change in 12.04?
[07:50] <somsip> josebonome: you've given us about half of the story. What version of drivers? How have you tried to install them? what was the result? People won't want to drag details out of you
[07:50] <fidel_> josebonome: well either use the official nv-driver - or try the free one
[07:51] <gehrc> I'm using ~/.ssh/config but that's not working for me...
[07:51] <fidel_> or - write a more detailed problem-description ;)
[07:51] <josebonome> i install the drivers already but it says is not in use
[07:51] <somsip> gehrc: still .ssh/config
[07:51] <josebonome> driver active but not in use
[07:51] <gehrc> Odd... is there any reason it wouldn't like that file then? I chmoded to 0600
[07:52] <gehrc> It isn't accepting my hostname aliases
[07:52] <somsip> gehrc: 644 here. Can you paste an extract?
[07:52] <gehrc> Sure, one sec
[07:53] <somsip> gehrc: and define 'accepting'
[07:53] <gehrc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6492980/
[07:53] <Bray90820> Ubuntu keeps telling me "Module not found"
[07:53] <gehrc> It seems to think my aliases are hostnames.
[07:53] <Bray90820> eventho i know it's the right hid
[07:53] <gehrc> Could not resolve hostname
[07:53] <gehrc> But the hostname it says it's trying is the alias name lol
[07:54] <josebonome> plz guys i am not a pro with ubuntu i really like it but i love my game more than ubuntu
[07:54] <gehrc> Ah... looks like it was permissions then.
[07:55] <gehrc> 644 did the trick for me, now I just have other issues to iron out. Thanks for the advice!
[07:55] <somsip> gehrc: are your keys setup correctly for permissions? Try ful paths maybe?
[07:55] <somsip> gehrc: ok :)
[07:55] <gehrc> Thanks so much!
[07:56] <Bray90820> Ubuntu keeps telling me "Module not found"
[07:56] <Bray90820> eventho i know it's the right hid
[07:56] <josebonome> thx guys
[07:56] <helmut_> hi
[07:56] <Bray90820> could u substitute my devices mac address for the HID
[07:58] <josebonome> is there another room i can get some help ..?
[07:59] <somsip> josebonome: you can ask here, but give the details you've been asked for
[08:00] <Jordan_U> Bray90820: What command are you running that gives this error? What is the exact (complete) error message? What is your end goal?
[08:00] <Bray90820> Jordan_U: i ended up fixing it
[08:01] <Bray90820> apparently it didnt want my hid
[08:01] <Bray90820> it didn't want the hid of my bluetooth mouse
[08:01] <Bray90820> it wanted the hid of my bluetooth card
[08:02] <Jordan_U> josebonome: Did you reboot after enabling the driver?
[08:03] <josebonome> yes i did
[08:03] <josebonome> and nothing
[08:04] <josebonome> nvm anyways i will intall windows 7 and take out ubuntu
[08:06] <liss> hi
[08:08] <daftykins> hi
[08:11] <Bray90820> So is there a file that has the mouse settings so i can manually set my  scrolling speed and pointer acceleration
[08:12] <smoke> maybe xorg.conf
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> but i've only personally done it on trackpads with synclient
[08:17] <Bray90820> smoke: do you know the location of xorg.conf
[08:17] <smoke> im unsure with ubuntu...
[08:17] <smoke> i dont know exactly how to configure it in ubuntu but there is a /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d dir with a bunch of different configs
[08:19] <insider> What you think for this? http://www.muktware.com/2013/11/nsa-wanted-backdoor-linux-confirms-linus-father/16632
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> insider: i thinks it's offtopic
[08:20] <Jordan_U> insider: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for not support related discussion.
[08:21] <insider> OK, sorry
[08:23] <new0> how can i make the left bar on unity to disappear? and show when on mouse over
[08:30] <pahaloom> hi, who could tell me how android device could work on 13.10 without any udev rules, and out of a sudden after I had latest updates installed (security updates I believe) my workstation decided that it will no longer assign usb device file descriptor to plugdev group?
[08:30] <louishung> !list
[08:32] <pahaloom> I mean I got the adb tool to show device list correctly only after I had added custom udev rules as found out by google. Question is how did the permissions got assigned correcly before the update?
[08:36] <AdityaRaj> hey guys i am trying to use an application on with wine but it is unable to connect with internet.. please help
[08:39] <soman> Any ways to diagnose why opera begins to work slow after a few minutes after running? [INFO] Opera 12.16.1860; Linux i686, 3.2.0-57-generic [PLUGINS] Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202. [OTHER] No messages from terminal. OS works slow too until opera close.
[08:51] <Bray90820> Well i got the mouse worked out the bets i could
[08:51] <Bray90820> now all i need to do is make the fans quieter
[08:51] <Bray90820> does anyoen have a way to do that on a MacPro
[08:51] <Bray90820> anyone
[08:54] <pavel_> hello !
[08:58] <pavel_> I'm having problems with the recent ubuntu update ; the graphical interface shows serious problems. Anyone knows whre I can get help ? I'm new on this server.
[09:02] <ro9> hi
[09:02] <pavel_> hi
[09:02] <ro9> where to go for ruby on rails questions
[09:02] <pavel_>  /join #ruby
[09:02] <ro9> thanks
[09:02] <pavel_> not here
[09:08] <anunakki> anybody here got experience with ubuntu and xen?
[09:08] <Walex2> pavel_: for Ubuntu questions ask here. type /topic too
[09:08] <anunakki> having an issue setting up a paravirtualized xen array
[09:09] <anunakki> was hoping i could find some help here or in xen rofl
[09:10] <obamacoin> howdy ubottuers
[09:10] <pavel_> well, the last update (wednesday) has updated 'ubuntu base components'. Since then, I can log on on the graphical interface, but the desktop won't load, the screen stays black with the mouse
[09:11] <obamacoin> out of curiosity, does anyone do the bitcoin thing here?
[09:11] <anunakki> i do
[09:11] <anunakki> i actually sell hosting for bitcoin
[09:12] <anunakki> kind of battle of good/evil when you sell people a server for bitcoin but i usually monitor the usage, if they break tos i break account, and keep btc
[09:13] <obamacoin> cool anunakki - lol. Do you have many btc?
[09:13] <anunakki> a few yes, at one time, i had thousands of them, but that was when they were of much lesser value, i sold them a long time ago
[09:14] <anunakki> and oddly enough i have a wallet that i can no longer access
[09:14] <anunakki> with 50btc
[09:14] <obamacoin> man
[09:14] <anunakki> thats 50 thousand dollars i could use righ tnow
[09:14] <obamacoin> how do you not think about that every day? or do you? it'd be killing me. Just like my decision to not buy a large amount of apple stock when it was $90 (then it went to 600)
[09:14] <obamacoin> I almost put 40k in apple at 90 and would have had 200-300k :/
[09:15] <obamacoin> haunted me for a long time
[09:15] <hoyang_> hi.
[09:15] <anunakki> man i'm still haunted at the fact that i once paid someone 10,000 btc for like a $10 dollar service
[09:16] <anunakki> because had i held onnto that
[09:16] <anunakki> i'd be a millionaire
[09:16] <obamacoin> jeez :/
[09:16] <anunakki> so obamacoin mind if is msg
[09:16] <obamacoin> sure
[09:17] <zbrkxbr> hi guys how can I disale the blur on the unity search panel
[09:18] <zbrkxbr> everything seems fine except unity it's so lagy (and some websites too I don't underestand what's the matter with that Nvdia ION :S )
[09:20] <zbrkxbr> any answers ?
[09:20] <Overlordz> zbrkxbr, 'unity tweak tool' might have something, not sure though cause I don't use unity
[09:20] <zbrkxbr> sometimes I want to say unity suck too
[09:21] <zbrkxbr> in ubuntu xfce is fit the system I guess :S
[09:21] <Overlordz> I don't say it sucks, but I optimize my system for stability and I don't find unity to be particularly stable
[09:24] <LeMike> hello. is is possible to check whether the screen is locked or not via terminal? i want to send a away message to the server every time i log my screen
[09:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:27] <Janhouse> Why doesn't Acquire::socks::proxy "socks://localhost:4934/"; work in ubuntu server 13.10?
[09:43] <david_> Hi all. yesterday did install u Studio v13.10 64 bit. on Software & Updates, shows 5 nVidia/alternative drivers. the one thats Checked is #3, with no driver version number.  other 4 have driver version numbers. something tells me if i check, do reboot, might get a great -or- a bad reaction. what do you suggest?
[09:46] <BlackDalek> this may sound like a stupid question, but in Lubuntu... where do I find installed apps? I installed Oracle Virtualbox and Dosbox from the Lubuntu Software Centre, but they do not appear anywhere in the lubuntu menus. I can start the apps from terminal so they ARE there, but there is no entry in any menu for anything I install. Where are they?
[09:48] <altin> why am I getting: /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libturbojpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:48] <altin> when I have this library installed ?
[09:48] <altin> it shows this error when I run anything with optirun ?
[09:48] <BlackDalek> Also.. is it just me or does Steam for Linux no longer connect to the Steam server?
[09:50] <altin> nvm fixed it
[09:54] <crodjer> T/leav
[09:54] <SASDOE> BlackDalek: installed apps can be in various places
[09:56] <ubuntuaddicted> is it generally ok to mix memory brands and speeds? 2 sticks are 4GB G-Skill 2133 (bios can only run them at 1866) and I am about to buy 2 more sticks 4GB Patriot Viper 1866
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, should be fungible ...
[09:58] <nighthawk1987> crying now i just saw 4gb memory for cheap on outletpc.
[09:58] <ubuntuaddicted> cfhowlett, i figured it should work. thanks
[09:59] <ubuntuaddicted> they run in dual-channel so at least each channel has the same brand and speed
[09:59] <daftykins> ubuntuaddicted: compare the timings capable @ 1866
[10:01] <ubuntuaddicted> daftykins, oh, the ram i already have is 11-11-11-30 and the ram i was going to buy is 9-9-9-24. is that not good to mix those?
[10:02] <Rory> ubuntuaddicted: They will all run at the slowest speed, obviously. It will work though.
[10:03] <ubuntuaddicted> id get 2 more 4GB modules from G-skill but i can't find them in stock anywhere
[10:03] <daftykins> just go for it, worst comes to worst, you sell the existing kit and get a second set of what you're buying now
[10:04] <nighthawk1987> Ubuntuaddicted: I just saw some in stock at outletpc.com for about 30 bucks a pop. it is according to how much you are buying them for.. they are 1866
[10:05] <nighthawk1987> I guess it was a black friday special
[10:05] <nighthawk1987> and they are g-skill
[10:06] <ubuntuaddicted> nighthawk1987, those timings are 9-10-9-28
[10:06] <ubuntuaddicted> nighthawk1987, thanks anyway though
[10:08] <BlackDalek> another question.... how do I remove items from the Lubuntu menu? I did a "sudo apt-get remove wine1.4" but it's still in the menu. How can I remove redundant entries?
[10:08] <marcellux> hi. does anyone know how to install an apropiate flashplugin version to be able to wathc any kind of web content?
[10:08] <anunakki> its purge
[10:08] <anunakki> apt-get purge
[10:08] <anunakki> sudo apt-get purge wine1.4
[10:08] <BlackDalek> anunakki, ahhh ok.
[10:09] <ikonia> marcellux flash is not really a stable / depenable solution on linux any more - it was never really great, but now it's EOL, you can't really depend on it in any way
[10:09] <impradeepy> hello
[10:09] <impradeepy> is there any C programming chhanel available?
[10:09] <tovarish> marcellux, flashplugin-installer ? it's not what you want?
[10:09] <marcellux> I tried it but it did not work
[10:10] <tovarish> what do you mean by didn't work?
[10:10] <BlackDalek> anunakki, um, using purge made no difference. It's still in lubuntu's menu.
[10:10] <marcellux> I downloaded the current version from adobe site and did as I was told, but nothing
[10:10] <impradeepy> ??
[10:10] <anunakki> hmm
[10:10] <anunakki> odd
[10:10] <anunakki> purge usually removes it
[10:10] <anunakki> might have to manually remove now
[10:11] <anunakki> not very familiare with lubuntu or its menu
[10:11] <marcellux> I get the message I should install the version so and so
[10:11] <Beldar> marcellux, you install from the ubuntu repos
[10:11] <marcellux> I did that too, beldar
[10:11] <BlackDalek> Can someone who is familiar with lubuntu please tell me how to remove ghost menu entries (of uninstalled apps)?
[10:12] <Beldar> marcellux, So flash works nowhere ever as of now?
[10:12] <marcellux> right, beldar. it happened since last repos update
[10:13] <Beldar> marcellux, So flash works nowhere ever as of now?
[10:13] <marcellux> youtube works fine, but I cannot watch this, and I used to! http://tvthek.orf.at/program/ZIB-9/71256/ZIB-9/7184898/Ukraine-Abkommen-endgueltig-geplatzt/7184900
[10:16] <Beldar> marcellux, You might note the message on it is not stable, it does not work everywhere, if it is working on youtube than it is working, you might try chrome it has a built in flash.
[10:18] <makara> will my computer boot if I make chmod 400 /etc/fstab? instead of doing this: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/20330/mounting-windows-share-on-startup-without-storing-password-in-plain-text
[10:20] <tovarish> makara, I hope that the mount process is run as root
[10:20] <tovarish> so my guess is yes
[10:22] <makara> tovarish, made it 600. Curious that this should be open to all users, since mounted network drive username and password is stored in plain text
[10:22] <Richhh> wondering about security of running Skype on Ubuntu 13.10, read here [ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype_security ] that Skype reads from /etc/passwd but 'newer' versions of linux store passwords in /etc/shadow where only privileged (not Skype) apps can access it, so I guess my version is considered 'newer' and is safER?
[10:23] <tovarish> makara, username and password in fstab?
[10:23] <tovarish> that file muts be readable by all users
[10:26] <marcellux> ok, thanks. I'll try chromium
[10:26] <sepero> Richhh: sure
[10:26] <makara> tovarish, are you saying I added that line to fstab?
[10:26] <Beldar> marcellux, chromium does not have the built in flash chrome does.
[10:27] <tovarish> makara, I am saying that no password must be in fstab
[10:27] <tovarish> because that file must rw-r--r--
[10:27] <marcellux> ok. the chrome it is!
[10:28] <anunakki> meh firefox was default installed in my ubuntu-server dedi so i didnt install chromium
[10:28] <makara> tovarish, why must it be 644? Who needs to mount drives besides root?
[10:28] <anunakki> but i use chrome any other time
[10:28] <anunakki> i might even purge firefox and install chromium
[10:28] <anunakki> just because i love chrome
[10:28] <Overlordz> Richhh, so what if it does?
[10:28] <tovarish> makara, you can have line for things use can mount themselves (like usb key etc.)
[10:29] <Overlordz> Richhh, there are probably any number of system calls that could cause a read on /etc/passwd.  that article is poorly written to not mention so.  it's spreading FUD.
[10:29] <tovarish> fstab  is public since the old time
[10:29] <tanmay> y
[10:30] <tanmay> noooooo
[10:31] <blinky_ghost> j #rdo
[10:34] <Overlordz> Richhh, apparently I'm not the only one who finds that absurd.  In the "Talk" section of that article: FUD about /etc/passwd: This is nonsense. The password file is public. If you call the getpwent API, it accesses the file. It is necessary for simple things like mapping the numeric user ID to a user name. I haven't seen a Linux installation in twelve years that put hashed passwords into /etc/passwd. Shadow files are now the nor
[10:34] <Overlordz> m.
[10:38] <Richhh> ok thanks Overlordz
[10:42] <MajSlayer7777> umm what's a good videocard for ubuntu? i hear say away from ATI? that correct?
[10:42] <ikonia> MajSlayer7777: it really depends on make/model
[10:43] <ikonia> MajSlayer7777: and what works in this release maybe obsoleted in release +1 or +2
[10:43] <ikonia> so research is key
[10:43] <MajSlayer7777> going to trash my gtx 560 twin frozer 2, sucker keep locking up any computer i install it on
[10:43] <MajSlayer7777> ahh i see ikonia
[10:44] <MajSlayer7777> well one thing is for sure, i won't be buying any videocards that come "overclocked" second one I've had fail on me
[10:45] <MajSlayer7777> anyhow thanks for the tips, i'll see if i can find one that works on ubuntu 13.10 well and it in the $300 price range
[10:45] <Overlordz> MajSlayer7777, i believe if you want to use strictly open source drivers, ati is better, otherwise, nvidia
[10:46] <MajSlayer7777> ahh yeah i like ATI, always found the rendering of shaders to be quite nicer
[10:46] <MajSlayer7777> (even if they are a bit slower)
[10:46] <Overlordz> ikonia, are you saying videocards might be obsolete in 1 or 2 releases of ubuntu?
[10:48] <Overlordz> sheesh I knew stuff got outdated fast but dang, now I need to buy a videocard every year
[10:49] <ikonia> Overlordz: not really "by ubuntu" but as ubuntu ships the binary kernel modules for ATI/Nvidia, they both can obsolete cards, or make the older modules required to support those cards, not compaitble with the more current/modern kernels
[10:50] <vocx> I think it's a bit naïve thinking that you can use the newest, "best" video card right away with a Linux kernel. The companies that make the hardware need to constantly change their product, "improve", to gain a market edge.
[10:51] <vocx> What could work is a manufacturer catering specifically to open sources, but its product should also be better than the competitors, which is difficult of course.
[11:08]  * Hassen is downloading ubunto 13.10 i386
[11:11] <Brandano> Hassen: i386?
[11:12] <Brandano> It's for something like a netbook?
[11:12] <Hassen> Brandano, the file beeing downloaded is labelled: ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso
[11:12] <Brandano> Hassen: yes, but that's for a 32 bit architectureù
[11:12] <ObrienDave> is your system 32 or 64 bit?
[11:12] <Hassen> 32 bit
[11:12] <Brandano> then it's fine
[11:13] <ObrienDave> that explains that :)
[11:13] <Hassen> did they make a ubuntu for laptops,and other one for desktops?
[11:13] <Brandano> there was a netbook remix for small screens
[11:13] <Brandano> then Canonical decided that everyone was going to use a touch screen interface anyway
[11:14] <Hassen> but laptops/notebooks use the same ubuntu as the desktops use?
[11:14] <Brandano> pretty much
[11:14] <bazhang> !une | Hassen
[11:14] <Brandano> netbooks often use an Atom processor, which is a 32 bit multithreading cpu
[11:14] <Hassen> but strange...YUMI has failed massively to make a bootable live CD of my ubuntu 11.04 iso
[11:15] <Hassen> now i'll try the latest ubuntu
[11:16] <cfhowlett> Hassen, netbooks like xubuntu and lubuntu
[11:16] <Overlordz> can't imagine why they thought Unity was good for netbooks
[11:17] <Hassen> so ?ubuntu is for netbooks?
[11:17] <invite> 2
[11:17] <invite> 2
[11:17] <invite> 2
[11:17] <FloodBot1> invite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:17] <Rory> Overlordz: Unity came from the ubuntu Netbook Remix
[11:18] <cfhowlett> Hassen, lubuntu and xubuntu are better for lower spec machines such as netbooks.
[11:18] <Hassen> ewww...flooding around here is risky..crowded channel with 3 anti-flood bots :o
[11:18] <Brandano> why three floodbots? Resilience against netsplits?
[11:18] <cfhowlett> Brandano, one would hope
[11:18] <Rory> Overlordz: They announced that the netbook remix interface was going to become to default on the desktop
[11:18] <Hassen> Brandano, i see floodbot1/2/3
[11:18] <DJones> Brandano: Yes pretty much, to cover netsplits & backup
[11:19] <Brandano> Btw, I found what was messing up my DNS lookup yesterday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9/+bug/996088
[11:19] <Brandano> apparently it affects upgrades to 12.04 too
[11:21] <MajSlayer7777> hmm dang ubuntu didn't detect my SSD drive, and only found my old HDD
[11:21] <Rory> MajSlayer7777: Can you see it if you run "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[11:21] <Hassen> i'm waiting for ubuntu 13.10 to be downloaded so i start programming and diving deeper in scripting :)
[11:22] <MajSlayer7777> well i'm sure it sees it now, but it didnt on install
[11:22] <pahaloom> Hassen, why ubuntu?
[11:22] <Hassen> pahaloom, what other OS do you suggest?
[11:22] <pahaloom> wouldnt you need just text editor and files?
[11:22] <outlaw84> Hi, I am having some permission problems. I want my user to have access to /dev/ttyUSB0, but the chown disapears efter every reboot. What is the real solution for this=
[11:23] <pahaloom> Hassen, any OS will do
[11:23] <Hassen> pahaloom, but the command line interface is much richer than windows's one
[11:24] <Brandano> pahaloom: yep, Gentoo will work just as well, yet I wouldn't suggest it to a beginner
[11:24] <Brandano> Hassen: you mean bash scripting?
[11:24] <Hassen> Brandano, yes
[11:25] <disco> Hello world.
[11:25] <Brandano> Hassen: Ubuntu comes with its own set of idiosincrasies, there will be places where your tutorials just won't match
[11:25] <outlaw84> Just to be clear nor Ubuntu or Gentoo is an OS, they are just distributions usually run with the Linux-kernel
[11:26] <Brandano> outlaw84: right. and both of them using bash, but that isn't an axiom either
[11:26] <disco> What's the difference, really?
[11:26] <tovarish> outlaw84, its udev
[11:26] <outlaw84> disco: packaging system
[11:26] <Brandano> I wonder if there's any distribution using a different shell. Except perhaps Android
[11:26] <outlaw84> tovarish: could you be more detailed?
[11:26] <Rory> Brandano: Other shells like zsh are available on Ubuntu
[11:27] <tovarish> udev recreate your "devices" during boot
[11:27] <tovarish> so you must configure it
[11:27] <pahaloom> Hassen, set up either cygwin or mingw
[11:27] <Hassen> that teacher woman said yesterday that windows is for beginners in programming,so move to e.g linux ubuntu to learn programming
[11:27] <Hassen> but i didn't agree with her
[11:27] <outlaw84> Brandano: any distribution can have any different shell, the only difference is which shell they ship with
[11:27]  * Brandano did some ksh scripting on SystemV in the past
[11:28] <BikerSco> Hello :)
[11:28] <cfhowlett> Hassen, here's a thought: install a buntu: then add the Sputnik Developer packages
[11:28] <cfhowlett> BikerSco, greetings
[11:28] <Brandano> Can't remember much of it, though. It was mainly to deploy PL-SQL stored procedures
[11:28] <tovarish> Hassen, that teacher is a troll
[11:28] <BikerSco> Can anyone recommend the best way to screen share between two ubuntu machine sont he same network?
[11:28] <pahaloom> Hassen, I would not agree on any teacher claiming so
[11:28] <outlaw84> BikerSco: vnc
[11:28] <Hassen> yes
[11:28] <pahaloom> goahead, download ubuntu and start prooving her that it is much easyer for any real programming
[11:29] <Hassen> :)
[11:29] <outlaw84> lol, like program difficult would depend from OS :)
[11:29] <pahaloom> show the b***h how much of a control can one have over its machine just by quitting windows
[11:29] <Brandano> BikerSco: actually, if you want to SHARE the screen you need the X11vnc package, not the vncserver package
[11:29] <tovarish> outlaw84, of course, it's depending of the API and how you link to it
[11:29] <pahaloom> but this would not quite be programming
[11:29] <Brandano> vncserver will create a new X11 instance instead of sharing the existing one
[11:29] <pahaloom> for programming, one needs just a good enough text editor
[11:30] <outlaw84> tovarish: I would say it depends what you are programming, which has not been made clear yet
[11:30] <pahaloom> and usually - for real programming cases - a compiler
[11:30] <pahaloom> two tools
[11:30] <pahaloom> any OS will do
[11:30] <tovarish> outlaw84, everythign os more difficult to do on windows
[11:30] <Brandano> in defense of the teacher, the integration with the OS is probably a bit better in *nix
[11:30] <tovarish> s/os/is/
[11:30] <Hassen> gentlemen..that's why i hate college..i get absent at most days of the week,here alone with my laptop,i learn stuff fast and correct by reading books and connecting to IRC,but there in college they troll you with wrong and boring informations
[11:31] <pahaloom> Hassen, maybe choose different subject?
[11:31] <pahaloom> Hassen, how about if you go to art school instead, or pick literature course
[11:31] <Brandano> But you'll only hit stumbling blocks when you start to deal with inter-process communications
[11:31] <ikonia> maybe take this to a different channel please, as this channel is for #ubuntu topics not school advice
[11:31] <Brandano> reading from a program's stdout in windows is a hassle
[11:32] <jtlap_> \join nt2
[11:32] <Hassen> pahaloom, want to dedicate it all to IT though
[11:32] <outlaw84> ON-TPOIC: I am having some permission problems. I want my user to have access to /dev/ttyUSB0, but the chown disapears efter every reboot. What is the real solution for this?
[11:32] <outlaw84> *TOPIC
[11:32] <bazhang> !ot | pahaloom Hassen
[11:32] <tovarish> outlaw84, did you read what I wrote? you have to configure udev
[11:32] <pahaloom> thanks, bazhang
[11:33] <Hassen> bazhang, it's ok i know.
[11:33] <outlaw84> tovarish: I asked you to be more specific but did not get any reply
[11:33] <jtlap_> \join #nt2
[11:33] <tovarish> outlaw84, i replied, but maybe i forgot to highlight you
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: what is the output of:   ls -al /dev/ttyUSB0
[11:34] <outlaw84> ActionParsnip: crw-rw---- 1 eseco eseco 188, 0 Nov 29 12:14 /dev/ttyUSB0
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: did you chown it by any chance?
[11:34] <outlaw84> ActionParsnip: yea I did not it reverts back to root after reboot
[11:35] <tovarish> outlaw84, when I want to enable access to a specific dev to users, i create a "device" inside /opt correctly configured, udev won't mess with that
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: is it root:root ?
[11:35] <copithod> whois outlaw84
[11:35] <BikerSco> Brandano, outlaw84 thanks
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: or is it rot:dialout?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: reboot, then chgeck the ownership
[11:35] <outlaw84> ActionParsnip: I will
[11:35] <outlaw84> tovarish: you mean with a symlink or how?
[11:35] <tovarish> with a mknod
[11:36] <BikerSco> i'll give VNCX a bash, thanks guys
[11:36] <koyetsu> what is the command to see where drives are mounted? i need to make sure that i have this data drive mounted correctly
[11:37] <tovarish> koyetsu, mount
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> outlaw84: if you reboot and find the group owner, we can add you to the group and you will get access
[11:37] <koyetsu> oh...now i feal stupid
[11:37] <tovarish> koyetsu, but bezqre mount could lie about what is mounted
[11:37] <tovarish> to be sure "cat /proc/mounts"
[11:38] <koyetsu> awesome, thanks tovarish
[11:38] <tovarish> you're welcome
[11:39] <koyetsu> looks like i got it right. i've never used the uuid to setup a perm mount point befor i always just used /dev/sdXX
[11:39] <Brandano> is there a more recent version of Ubuntu for ARM architecture than 9.04?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> !arm
[11:40] <Brandano> I really ought to update my Sheevaplug.
[11:40] <outlaw84> ActionParsnip: the group was dailout, I added my user there and now it works :) Thanks
[11:41] <Layke> On my previous install I used <CAPS> as a keyboard modifier. For instance, I could press <CAPS> - l and it would create a GBP pound sterling symbol. Or I could press <CAPS> u : and it would create a umlaut. What's this called and how do I enable it again?
[11:46] <tovarish> Layke, xmodmap will probably help you
[11:47] <trijntje> Brandano: no, though there is an indiegogo campain to create one
[11:48] <koyetsu> hey tovarish, do you know what apache2 is called for the start/stop service in 12.04? i've tried apache2 apache and httpd and none of those seem to be right. according to ps -x /usr/bin/apache2 is running...but i need to restart it and i keep getting an "unknown job" error
[11:59] <Hassen> doh..
[11:59] <Hassen> anyone who knows a working tool that makes live ubuntu cd?
[11:59] <Rory> !usb | Hassen
[11:59] <Hassen> YUMU and Universal Usb Installer are failing
[12:00] <Rory> Hassen: probably a bad image. Are you on Windows?
[12:00] <Rory> Hassen: I like Linux Live USB
[12:00] <Hassen> Rory, yes
[12:00] <Hassen> win 7
[12:00] <Hassen> i downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[12:00] <koyetsu> hassan have you tried unetbootin?
[12:00] <Brandano> koyetsu: I think you should use apache2ctl to manage the apache session
[12:00] <Hassen> koyetsu, googling that
[12:01] <koyetsu> Brandano i went the hard way and rebooted the server....hehe
[12:01] <Brandano> koyetsu: or apachectl, that is probably a symlink to apache2ctl
[12:02] <Brandano> the init script should be /etc/init.d/apache12
[12:02] <Brandano> err, , /etc/init.d/apache2
[12:02] <rhagu> hi, I think about setting up a honeypot, but dont know, what software to use (honeyd, mwcollectd, Nepenthes, Amun, honeytrap, multipot) it is supposed to run on a kvm VM inside my home network and do intrusion detection. Any ideas/recommandations?
[12:04] <Brandano> koyetsu: you might want to look into the command "apache2ctl graceful", it's very useful when running a live server
[12:07] <mad2k> hi guys is there any trick to the EFI-bootloader from Macbook ?
[12:07] <mad2k> tried this bless --device /dev/disk0s1 --setBoot --legacy but its not recognized
[12:07] <gordonjcp> mad2k: get refind
[12:08] <mad2k> i kind of missed that its only ubuntu running now on the machine
[12:08] <mad2k> but i got a bootable dvd
[12:18] <mad2k> is grub installed by standard on the EFI partition or on / ? using a standard ubuntu gnome install (13.04)
[12:18] <Hassen> doh...and now double-clicking on unetbootin-windows-585.exe results in nothing :o
[12:18] <koyetsu> Hassen try right clicking it and run as administrator
[12:19] <facu99> +i
[12:19] <facu99> hi
[12:19] <facu99> can someone please tell my use mudita24?
[12:20] <Hassen> strange...yet nothing appears
[12:21] <koyetsu> no idea i use it on win 7 all the time
[12:21] <afidegnum> hello, pls r u online?
[12:22] <afidegnum> I am in a hot water
[12:22] <facu99> whats its the utility of mudita24?
[12:23] <adanoob> afidegnum: whats up ?
[12:23] <afidegnum> hmm, I am hot
[12:24] <afidegnum>  I don't know what is happening. my host alexprohost.com is not active. but it is a fully registered domain active for the past 8 days and the hosting server is also active. what could be happening?
[12:24] <facu99> it´s a equalaizer?
[12:24] <afidegnum> ?
[12:25] <adanoob> afidegnum: you should be talking to your hosting provider no ? they'll probably know what's happening
[12:25] <lng> Hi! I got packages problems suddenly - http://pastebin.com/dFqpjwH7
[12:32] <Hassen> afidegnum, what is the hosting company?
[12:32] <afidegnum> Hetzner
[12:38] <mad2k> guys once i blessed a partition on uefi ... is there a way to "unbless" ?
[12:38] <mad2k> nevermind manpage helps
[12:43] <Mobiesque> Hi everyone! I would like some help with Flash on ubuntu 13.10. Many times when I try to 'fullscreen' the flash window will go black. If i kill plugin-container those same sites will let me fullsceen once then the issue occurs again. Disabling 'hardware accelleration' has not helped.
[12:43] <facu99> y si reinstalas ?
[12:43] <facu99> yo lo use de lo mas bien
[12:44] <facu99> flash in ubuntu 13.10 x64 or 32 bit?
[12:44] <Mobiesque> x64
[12:44] <dannymichel> is it dumb to stick to lts until 14.04 comes out?
[12:44] <facu99> i use the same ! and no problems to me
[12:45] <Guest97649> where is stored grub config, I want to change default boot option and timeout
[12:45] <Mobiesque> I've done a delete / reinstall of flash with no help
[12:45] <facu99> install from the terminal or desktop?
[12:46] <Mobiesque> synaptic "complete removal
[12:47] <facu99> i listen the terminal its beter for data about the problems
[12:48] <Mobiesque> check for errors in terminal you're saying?
[12:48] <facu99> i think so
[12:49] <Mobiesque> I know adobe has stopped support - is gnash up to the same quality as their proprietary releases yet? been a few years since i tried them,
[12:51] <_root_> hello i have eth0 and eth1 . I just edited the /etc/network/interfaces ;;; anyway to reload the network interface or what ever that is completely in order to that editing take effect without rebooting the server?
[12:55] <brontosaurusrex> i'am trying to "find" dot files and dirs smaller than Nk , however this:
[12:55] <brontosaurusrex> find . -maxdepth 1 -size -5k -iname ".*" -and ! -name ".~*" -and ! -name "._.*"
[12:55] <brontosaurusrex> is not working
[12:55] <brontosaurusrex> ideas?
[12:55] <FloodBot1> brontosaurusrex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <usuario> FF
[13:07] <usuario> OLA
[13:07] <cfhowlett> !es
[13:10] <Hassen> strange..when trying to make a livecd ubuntu on my usb flash,i get syslinux4.exe error at most of dedicated softwares
[13:10] <Hassen> i use win7
[13:11] <MajSlayer7777> silly noob question i know, but just installed google chrome, how to i add a short-cut to my desktop for it?
[13:12] <Janhouse> How can I make the initram busybox contain logger and diff?
[13:12] <MajSlayer7777> currently i can only launch it via terminal
[13:12] <gordonjcp> MajSlayer7777: which desktop are you using?
[13:13] <MajSlayer7777> Unbunto 13.10, i guess the default one, it never asked..
[13:13] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> top shows me that the program plugin-container contantly uses 50% of CPU power. Is this normal?
[13:13] <WiGust> MajSlayer7777: http://xmodulo.com/2013/11/create-desktop-shortcut-launcher-linux.html
[13:13] <gordonjcp> MajSlayer7777: okay, so press the flag key and type "chrome"
[13:13] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> And xorg uses nearly also 50%
[13:13] <Rory> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: Yes because that's probably Adobe Flash which is a notorious resource hog
[13:14] <gordonjcp> MajSlayer7777: when it's up, right-click on the icon on the launcher and click "pin to launcher"
[13:14] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> So what can I do about it?
[13:14] <gordonjcp> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: avoid flash, maybe
[13:15] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> MajSlayer7777, When what is up?
[13:15] <WiGust> Hassen: did you try ultaiso?
[13:16] <Hassen> WiGust, trying..
[13:16] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> Rory, but i have 50% CPU utilization when Firefox is not even started.
[13:17] <WiGust> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: you can kill flash from the terminal
[13:17] <MajSlayer7777> thanks guys
[13:18] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> WiGust, every time after starting the PC? :(
[13:19] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> How can I remove icons from the top panel bar of Ubuntu 13.10 (Gnome)?
[13:19] <rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr> Somehow my dad managed to put an additional shutdown switch icon there.
[13:19] <Brandano> right mouse button, edit panel?
[13:19] <WiGust> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr: it shouldn't start after boot up
[13:19] <titokill> hello
[13:20] <cfhowlett> tito
[13:20] <cfhowlett> titokill, greetings
[13:20] <titokill> i need some help
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !details|titokill,
[13:20] <titokill> i need install my nvidia drivers
[13:20] <titokill> geforce 420m gt
[13:20] <titokill> on ubunut 12.04
[13:20] <cfhowlett> !nvidia
[13:20] <Hassen> WiGust, i don't understand what option should I choose in UltraIso.
[13:22] <titokill> already when there open source
[13:22] <titokill> and nothing
[13:23] <titokill> hello
[13:23] <cfhowlett> !patience|titokill,
[13:23] <titokill> plz iam new at ubuntu
[13:24] <WiGust> Hassen: http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-use-ultraiso-software-to-create-bootable-usb-flash-drive/
[13:25] <Hassen> WiGust, understood.
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> titokill: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU too?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> titokill: or does the system have a make and model?
[13:27] <titokill> xps ls501x
[13:28] <titokill> and yes i ca see the display
[13:28] <macfire>  teste
[13:29] <cfhowlett> macfire, we see you
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> titokill: so you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU?
[13:29] <macfire> ;help $mask
[13:29] <titokill> how ..?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> titokill: run the command I gave you....in a terminal
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> titokill: press CTRL+ALT+T
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> titokill: I found this: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1076/pg7/dell-xps-15-l501x-laptop-review-main-specification-testing.html   but I want to know if YOUR system has the INtel GPU as well as the Nvidia
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> titokill: the commadn I gave will tell us conclusively
[13:31] <clocKwize> I ran ubuntu installer on a vm, and got it to install to a usb stick, it did so but then failed writing a boot loader to it, what can I do?
[13:31] <titokill> only see two displays here
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> titokill: yes, what are they?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> titokill: again, is one Intel based and the other Nvidia based?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> titokill: or do you ONLY see an Nvidia chip?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Hey ActionParsnip
[13:33] <titokill> nvidia and intel
[13:33] <titokill> i got both
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> titokill: ok, then you need to use bumblebee to get some sort of support for that mess
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> titokill: you have an 'optimus based' video chip
[13:33] <titokill> hum ..? how ..
[13:34] <titokill> i dont know how i can see that >?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> titokill: search the web, lots of guides. Or I can get you one if you want
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> titokill: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> amazingly searched the web for 'ubuntu bumblebe' and *poof* top link...amazing huh
[13:35] <Rory> ActionParsnip: Don't reveal our secrets
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Rory: shame I spelled it wrong in my sarcasm, takes a bit of the edge off
[13:36] <BluesKaj> titokill. also here http://privatepaste.com/249b841e14
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> Optimus is such a cludge
[13:38] <titokill> Enable the Universe and Multiverse repositories (for bumblebee and nvidia packages respectively).
[13:38] <titokill> what is that ..?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> titokill: again, search the web some
[13:39] <titokill> ok sorry guys i am just new at this
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> titokill: new to searching the web for answers?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> when did pastebinit start using Private Paste ?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: which release are you using?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> 14.04 ActionParsnip
[13:39] <zbrkxbr> guys I need help with my laptop ( ell you can call it as a netbook with an 12 inch screen) I have a baterry issue  system is xubuntu 32 bit - NvIDIA ION Graphics - intel atom 1.60 Ghz x4    (EEEPc 1201N)   the system says it's 9 minutes left but the computer haven't give me a red alert yet and it's decharging to fast :S
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: maybe that's when, not seen that in any stable releases
[13:40] <gordonjcp> hmmm
[13:40] <zbrkxbr> xubuntu channel didn't helped with that
[13:40] <titokill> i just love starcraft2 to much
[13:40] <zbrkxbr> (they even don't care I guess :S )
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: do you have the proprietary video drivers installed?
[13:40] <zbrkxbr> yes
[13:40] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip. right, good point
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: are they loaded and in use?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[13:41] <zbrkxbr> ? please say again with more simple English
[13:41] <Windows8User> Hey, I partitioned my drive giving Ubuntu 150 GB and I'm looking to install now alongside Windows 8.1 but I can't get the dvd to boot.
[13:41] <zbrkxbr> ok I gonna pastebin that
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: did you download the Ubuntu DVD ISO to burn to the DVD?
[13:42] <zbrkxbr> ''Ubuntu 13.10 \n \1
[13:42] <zbrkxbr> that's all
[13:43] <Shuro2> hi there, is someone here with experience about ubuntu 13.10 + grub2 + mdadm + lvm + luks?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: if you run:   nvidia-settings    do you get a dialogue when it starts, or do you just see the application?
[13:43] <Winows8User> Could someone here help me boot from my ubuntu live dvd on windows 8.1, new toshiba laptop, already partitioned and ready for dual boot (Windows 8.1/Ubuntu)
[13:44] <zbrkxbr> the app without dialouge
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: I asked you some questions..
[13:44] <Janhouse> How does one configure initram busybox? I need more applets added to it.
[13:44] <Winows8User> i did not see, i timed out in between.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: what is the point of asking for support, then NOT responding to questions aBOUT YOUR ISSUE?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: did you download the Ubuntu DVD ISO to burn to the DVD?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:44] <Winows8User> Yes to both
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: Did you burn the DVD as slowly as possible?
[13:45] <Winows8User> yes
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: what video chip(s) does the system use?
[13:45] <Winows8User> Intel HD 4000
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Windows8User: doies the system have a make and model?
[13:45] <Winows8User> It does
[13:45] <Winows8User> Wai
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: what is it please?
[13:45] <Winows8User> i know the model
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: good enough
[13:46] <zbrkxbr> the system alerts now j.i.t.
[13:46] <Winows8User> It's a Toshiba Satellit
[13:46] <Winows8User> It was on a black friday bundle at bestbuy
[13:46] <zbrkxbr> I guess that baterry has some problem
[13:46] <zbrkxbr>  s
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: turn it over, it will say on the bottom
[13:46] <Winows8User> kk give me a second
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: do you have the latest BIOS?
[13:46] <zbrkxbr>  I don't know thisis a secınd hand netbook or laptop
[13:46] <Winows8User> c55-a5308
[13:47] <zbrkxbr> are there any commands to learn that ?
[13:47] <Winows8User> also its one of those newer windows 8 pcs with no bios
[13:47] <Winows8User> just the UMEI thing
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> zbrkxbr: sudo dmidecode -t 1     will show the current BIOS, you can then check online to see if its new
[13:48] <Winows8User> I could use Wubi, the windows installer, i have it on the disk
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> WinDu1965: Wubi is not compatible with Windows8
[13:48] <Winows8User> kk
[13:49] <Winows8User> this is my laptop http://www.toshiba.com/us/computers/laptops/satellite/C50/C55-A5308
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: tried disabling the secure boot?
[13:49] <Winows8User> secure boot?
[13:50] <Winows8User> never heard of it
[13:50] <Winows8User> how do i?
[13:50] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, that's actually good news!
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: what is? /me is excited
[13:50] <Winows8User> also when im installing will there be an option for intalling it along side and not overwritting the MBR? (master boot record)
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: in the setupf the syste, before the OS loads etc
[13:51] <cfhowlett> win8 / wubi incompatible!
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: oh yeah for sure
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide "Wubi does not work on any new PC with the Windows 8 logo or using UEFI firmware"
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Winows8User: did you download the 64bit version of Ubuntu
[13:52] <zbrkxbr> version : x.x
[13:52] <Winows8User> oh
[13:52] <Winows8User> oh
[13:52] <Winows8User> whoops
[13:52] <FloodBot1> Winows8User: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:52] <Winows8User> no
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> WinDu1965: it MUST be 64bit to support that booting junk your system is using
[13:53] <zbrkxbr> dramatic :D he said ''nooo'' then system kicked him like a movie :d
[13:53] <Janhouse> How does one configure initram busybox? I need more applets added to it.
[13:53] <Janhouse> How does one configure initram busybox? I need more applets added to it.
[13:53] <coder2> Hello. I've noticed an odd message in the system log on wakeup after hibernation: "kernel: CPU1: not responding". And the system continues running with the only processor core. It does not happen on notmal boot. The OS version is 12.04/32bit, my laptop is Lenovo Ideapad S205 (AMD E350 core). Please help me to fix this.
[13:55] <Shuro2> hi, have a Problem with ubuntu 13.10 + cryptroot. 2 harddrives with P 2 patitions on each with mdadm-raid, md0 (300mb, ext2, /boot) and md1(lukslvm -> lvm with Root-LV). Wont boot, after successful luks-password the message "/scripts/local-top/cryptroot: line 1: can't open /dev/mapper/vg_technik-root: no such file" Screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gl3ddrf73ywhe0o/2013-11-29%2012.07.53.jpg   modified initrd and added "bash -x" to cryptroot, shows the follo
[13:55] <ikonia> kpom
[13:55] <ikonia> oops, sorry
[13:56] <N3xtIn> hai folks, i have a small problem while working with android SDK
[13:56] <N3xtIn> fastboot and ADB are not working .here is link to question.http://askubuntu.com/q/383418/28675
[13:57] <ikonia> N3xtIn: how is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[13:57] <ikonia> N3xtIn: just fie the permissions on the file
[13:57] <N3xtIn> which file
[13:57] <N3xtIn> ?
[13:57] <ikonia> the two it's saying "permission denied on"
[13:57] <Win8User> Back.
[13:57] <ikonia> the two it can't execute
[13:58] <Rory> N3xtIn: Remove adb and fasttools using whatever method you installed them with, and install from the repositories for fewer headaches
[13:58] <Win8User> Would you think I should get LTS or latst features?
[13:58] <shadej> can anyone help me what this means? http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/1.3/jms/tutorial/1_3_1-fcs/doc/client.html#1025249
[13:58] <N3xtIn> yes , i have edited on .bashrc file , as said that guide
[13:58] <ikonia> N3xtIn: who said anything about .bashrc
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Win8User: depends if you want LTS? You can install 13.10 then upgrade to 14.04 in April next year and get LTS :)
[13:58] <ikonia> N3xtIn: I said fix the permissions of the two files
[13:58] <N3xtIn> how to do that?
[13:59] <Win8User> uhmmm
[13:59] <Win8User> its making me download amd
[13:59] <Win8User> i have an intel processor
[13:59] <Brandano> amd64 is a generic definition for 64 bit cpus
[13:59] <Pici> !enter | Win8User
[14:00] <N3xtIn> @ikonia how to do that?
[14:00] <ikonia> N3xtIn: right click on them in the file manager and change the permissions
[14:00] <Brandano> N3xtIn: chown
[14:00] <ikonia> N3xtIn: with respect - if you can't manage basic file system permissions, you're going to struggle to use the development kit
[14:00] <ikonia> N3xtIn: I'd suggest trying to get a basic understanding of how to use linux before trying to develop on it
[14:02]  * Brandano always learned how things work by breaking them. Luckily he is not a medic.
[14:02] <syeekick> does steam work the best under ubuntu?
[14:02] <Win8User> cant decide over ubuntu or windows 7
[14:02] <kmantzou> Hi there,i have a Dell Inspiron N5110,with dual graphic cards (AMD Radeon HD 6470 M and intel )..my problem is that ubuntu can't run normally,any ideas?
[14:02] <ikonia> thats the target distro for steam
[14:03] <ikonia> "can't run normally"
[14:03] <ikonia> ?
[14:03] <Pici> syeekick: It works the best on Windows, but what ikonia said ;)
[14:03] <Brandano> syeekick: native steam uses ubuntu as reference environment, so it ought to. Steam under Wine works fine, though there's some issues if you try to use files symlinked from an ntfs filesystem
[14:03] <ikonia> Pici: so right to push that windows is the best platform
 if i right click , change the permissions it reverts back to old state
[14:03] <ikonia> steam under linux does not work fine
[14:04] <skiy1337> I'm writing a new point-of-sale program. GPL 3. How would I market it?
[14:04] <N3xtIn> unable to change ,it keepon reverting back :(
[14:04] <ikonia> and links to an ntfs file system have no relevence
[14:04] <kmantzou> yeap my screen flashes and  overheating is also a problem
[14:04] <syeekick> which should i install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.10?
[14:04] <ikonia> skiy1337: you where told about this in ##linux
[14:04] <syeekick> and does ubuntu have spins like fedora does?
[14:04] <ikonia> skiy1337: please try to READ the answer people give you - it's not a linux issue, it'a marketing issue
[14:04] <ikonia> skiy1337: no
[14:04] <skiy1337> Well, you've got a good memory.
[14:05] <ikonia> skiy1337: it was less then 60 seconds ago
[14:05] <ikonia> I can remember longer than 60 seconds
[14:05] <Brandano> syeekick: presuming you want the bleeding edge system and don't need stability at all costs, get the latest one
[14:06] <syeekick> whats ubuntus equivlent of rpm fusion in fedora?
[14:06] <Brandano> I don't exactly know what the "spins" are, but there's an Ubuntu Server edition that is officially supported by Canonical, and a few other distributions based on Ubuntu that have different desktop environments
[14:06] <ikonia> syeekick: there isn't one
[14:07] <frojnd_> Hi there.
[14:08] <Brandano> ikonia: I had Steam under Wine work perfectly and Skyrim running at decent FPS.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> syeekick. compiz-fusion , maybe
[14:08] <ikonia> Brandano: so ?
[14:09] <Brandano> 15:03 < ikonia> steam under linux does not work fine
[14:09] <LjL> BluesKaj: ... what
[14:09] <ikonia> Brandano: correct, it doesn't
[14:09] <ikonia> Brandano: rpm-fusion is a repo
[14:09] <BluesKaj> LjL. I did say maybe :)
[14:09] <Brandano> plus there's the native steam linux client that seems to work fine on my machine. that you might find Valve's DRM despicable does not mean the program won't run
[14:10] <ikonia> what are you talking about ???
[14:11] <coder2> OK, thanks anyway. Who cares...
[14:11] <coder2> Bye
[14:11] <Brandano> ikonia: why do you say that steam under linux does not work fine?
[14:11] <ikonia> Brandano: I didn't say that, I said under wine doesn't work fine
[14:11] <Brandano> I mean, what part isn't working?
[14:12] <Brandano> oh, under wine it needs tweaking, but it works
[14:12] <ikonia> no it doens't work
[14:12] <shadej> how can i find "Directory in which the Java 2 SDK, Standard Edition, version 1.3.1, is installed"? on ubuntu
[14:12] <Brandano> as long as you don't symlink the steamapps folder but single folders under steamapps it works with symlinks to ntfs as well
[14:12] <ikonia> Brandano: so if I install steam under wine, buy any game and play it - will it work ?
[14:13] <Brandano> depends on the game, but generally yes
[14:13] <ikonia> Brandano: nonsense
[14:13] <ikonia> Brandano: look at the wineappdb - most of the game don't work, or have serious flaws
[14:13] <Brandano> it's wine support for specific steam games that is lacking
[14:13] <ikonia> and even those that work today can break tomorrow due to updates
[14:13] <ikonia> Brandano: sorry, that is not "steam works under wine"
[14:14] <Brandano> steam as and for itself works
[14:14] <ikonia> that is worthless
[14:14] <ikonia> it's clear the user is asking about the experience, the ability to use the steam gui, download and play games
[14:14] <Brandano> you can buy and download the game, and the authentication works fine
[14:14] <ikonia> what good is downloading a game if you can't run it
[14:14] <ikonia> that is not a "working solution"
[14:15] <Brandano> well, in my case it was good to download the game without having to reboot to windows
[14:15] <ikonia> Brandano: you downloaded 1 game - that does not mean it is a working solution
[14:15] <Brandano> no, I have about 150
[14:15] <syeekick> ikonia, why do you like to brush everyone up the wrong way
[14:15] <ikonia> Brandano: you've got 150 games working under steam runing on linux in wine
[14:16] <Brandano> Nope, only a few of those work under Steam. Then again, I have several games that will work that are not in the list of Steam linux games
[14:16] <Brandano> Like Oblivion and Skyrim
[14:16] <ikonia> Brandano: right so again "only a few work" is not a "working solution"
[14:17] <ikonia> try to think about what you are advising the user
[14:17] <ikonia> if you say "steam works great under wine" he goes out and installs it, downloads some games and it doesn't work, you've just wasted his money
[14:17] <ikonia> it's clear he's asking about the end to end expeirence, rather than just the gui
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Brandano. why do you need wine if steam games will run natively in Linux ?
[14:18] <Brandano> I assumed he meant the original steam client for Linux. If he knows what Wine is, I imagine he knows Wine is not an unfallible solution.
[14:19] <ikonia> Brandano: you'd be very surprised,
[14:20] <ikonia> Brandano: lots of people know what wine does but do not appreciate how far away from a solution it is
[14:20] <daniel_> hi
[14:20] <daniel_> :D
[14:20] <Brandano> BluesKaj: I had that setup before the steam client for linux ever came out. And as I mentioned, there's still some games that will work under Wine, but are not in the list of games available for Linux in Steam
[14:21] <Brandano> Oddly enough there's still enough reason to have both the native client and an instance running under Wine both installed at the same time. The problem is that you must make sure only one runs at any time
[14:22] <iliv> hi, where can I change tmpfs configuration on 12.04.3 LTS? It's not in fstab, I grepped files in /etc/ recursively for tmpfs and I don't really see anything that sets up tmpfs on /run.
[14:22] <sandman13> sorry if this is the wrong channel but is there an alternative to MS Sql server management studio?
[14:22] <sandman13> for ubuntu
[14:22] <ikonia> mysql workbench ?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> sandman13: interactive cli
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Brandano. , that's the distinction that one should mention at the outset when talking about wine a steam , otherwise it's confusing
[14:23] <BluesKaj> and
[14:26] <hs366> how can i find the right PPA for a software ?
[14:27] <ikonia> hs366: what do you mean ?
[14:27] <hs366> like wireshark : i found ppa:pi-rho/security and  ppa:dreibh/ppa
[14:27] <ikonia> hs366: there may not be one, you have to know the PPA / search the PPA's
[14:27] <hs366> its a bit confusing for me as new ubuntu user
[14:27] <ikonia> there is not a PPA for "everything"
[14:27] <hs366> ok
[14:28] <ikonia> hs366: I'd advise HUGE caution against using PPA's though
[14:28] <hs366> sure
[14:29] <hs366> i usually add from launchpad
[14:29] <hs366> but how do you trust a PPA
[14:29] <ikonia> I don't trust any PPA to be honest
[14:29] <ikonia> or at least very few
[14:29] <hs366> is there any source or list
[14:29] <ikonia> no, as there are too many PPA's and no control over them
[14:29] <hs366> ok
[14:30] <hs366> ikonia, Thx for advice
[14:30] <ikonia> no problem
[14:31] <hs366> love this channel and all members it's like a university !
[14:31] <hs366> lol
[14:31] <Brandano> you should check with the software maintainer if there's an "official" ppa for it
[14:32] <Brandano> I mean, if you know you want software X, you trust it, and the official page suggests a ppa, chances are it will be safe
[14:32] <hs366> i c
[14:33] <Brandano> No assurance, though, and especially on complex stuff it might mess up things
[14:33] <BluesKaj> !launchpad
[14:33] <ikonia> to be honest, I find a lot of the "official" ones are terrible
[14:33] <Shuro2> ok maybe another question: on boot, cryptroot calls the command "/sbin/lvm vgchange -a y --sysinit" which is activating my volume-groups & logical-volumes.  But it seems that it didn't create any mapper files like /dev/mapper/vgtest-root. Did someone know why that is so?
[14:33] <Brandano> Wine is one such cases, comes to think of it
[14:33] <ikonia> Shuro2: that suggests there are no logical volumes defined
[14:33] <ikonia> Shuro2: that command only activates the volume group - not the volumes
[14:34] <Brandano> ikonia: my use of quotes there was not random. official ppa is an oximoron
[14:34] <GhostWolf> hello
[14:35] <Shuro2> ikonia: not quite right: output from "/sbin/lvm vgchange -a y --sysinit" is: "3 logical volume(s) in volume group 'vg_test' now active"
[14:35] <ikonia> you don't activate volumes
[14:36] <ikonia> vgchange is just the volume group
[14:36] <_root_> in ubuntu 12.04.3; Do we still declare the static configs in /etc/network/interfaces like post-up route add GATEWAY dev eth0 post-up route add default gw GATEWAY  broadcast x.x.x.x ???????
[14:36] <coventry`> Is there a package which brings in sane defaults for laptop acpi keys (sleep, switch to vga display, volume, etc.)?
[14:36] <ikonia> Shuro2: but I see where you are coming from, activating the group controls the availability of the logical volumes
[14:37] <Shuro2> ikonia: afaik it's also activating the volumes. at least in every distribution i'm working with lvm (grml, debian)
[14:37] <ikonia> Shuro2: I think that's a just a wording conflict, rather than an actual difference, I see what you mean
[14:37] <xeberdee> Dashboard dissapeared, so I followed a forum to get it back. Used 'unity --reset' and I'm now on command promt instead of gnome desktop. How can I get back into gnome?
[14:37] <Shuro2> also the script "cryptroot" is not from me, it's included within ubuntu and should work
[14:38] <Shuro2> okay, sorry. English is not my native language
[14:38] <ikonia> Shuro2: no no, it's fine
[14:39] <WiGust> Can anybody give a link about users in Linux? I want to understand why exist users like "mail", "sync", "kdm"
[14:39] <ikonia> WiGust: they run processes, such as mail, or the kdm display manager
[14:39] <Shuro2> the problem: it fails on finding the root lvm and halts the startup. sitting here quite some hours figuring out why he didnt create the mappers
[14:39] <richringer> I'm getting an error 500 in juju --upload-tools under ubuntu 12.10  how can I fix this please?
[14:40] <ikonia> Shuro2: I'm wondering if it's activating before it's decrypted ?
[14:40] <WiGust> ikonia: ok. Can I control them via "su <user>"?
[14:40] <ikonia> WiGust: what do you mean "control" them ?
[14:40] <coventry`> Looks like the answer to my question may be the package acpi-support.
[14:41] <xeberdee> How can I reset gnome desktop. I used a comman unity --reset that boots my PC into command promt.
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> richringer: what does the error mean?
[14:41] <WiGust> ikonia: writing commands in terminal from their names
[14:41] <ikonia> WiGust: why do you want to do that ? they locked system accounts
[14:41] <ikonia> WiGust: why do you want to do things as users you (until a minute ago) didn't know what they did
[14:42] <Shuro2> ikonia:  nah. first i enter my password, than the activating-output. and then the error. Here's a "screenshot": https://www.dropbox.com/s/pykcbusltgl07q6/2013-11-29%2013.14.09.jpg
[14:42] <richringer> actionparsnip internal server error
[14:42] <WiGust> ikonia: just want to know can I do this or not ;)
[14:42] <ikonia> WiGust: they are locked system accounts
[14:42] <x86> how does one dump an axfr record to file?
[14:43] <WiGust> ikonia: can I unlock them?
[14:43] <ikonia> WiGust: you don't
[14:43] <ikonia> WiGust: why do you want to do this ?
[14:43] <ikonia> Shuro2: that looks very odd
[14:44] <ikonia> Shuro2: more so as it tries to continue after failing to find the mapper device
[14:44] <glitsj16> coventry`: correct, you'll need acpi daemon as well if you don't already have that, which is in the acpid package
[14:44] <Bastian_b> Hello I would like to change transparency of a window, is there a way to do it using xfc4?
[14:45] <coventry`> glitsj16: Yeah, I have acpid, and implemented the sleep function myself before I noticed I'd strayed into yak-shaving territory. :-)
[14:45] <glitsj16> :)
[14:46] <WiGust> ikonia: thanks, just for fun :) really
[14:46] <ikonia> WiGust: then you don't do it
[14:47] <Shuro2> ikonia: yeah it continue after that, here's the line in the code 'echo "ROOT=$NEWROOT" >>/conf/param.conf'    content of $NEWROOT is set above: 'NEWROOT=${cmdline_root:-/dev/mapper/$cryptlvm}'
[14:47] <ikonia> Shuro2: that part makes sense, and the error makes sense if the device file is not present
[14:47] <ikonia> Shuro2: it is just odd that the device file should not be present
[14:48] <Shuro2> /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot at ~line 310
[14:48] <coventry`> Where would I find/generate files in /var/lib/acpi-support?  acpi-support's sleep.sh is complaining that it can't find them, and failing to sleep.
[14:48] <Shuro2> ikonia: yeah i find this odd too :/ and it's problematic because it didn't boot
[14:48] <coventry`> As in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/554178
[14:49] <xeberdee> What is unity?
[14:50] <compdoc> unity is ppl standing together to fight crime
[14:50] <compdoc> oh wait. nm
[14:50] <gassho> compdoc who watches the watchmen eh
[14:50] <xeberdee> compdoc: nice
[14:50] <Shuro2> ikonia: i've included an "ls -a /dev/mapper" in the code, output: "control lukslvm .."
[14:50] <dougl> xeberdee, unity is the interface name for ubuntu
[14:50] <Shuro2> so no mapper files after the activation of the group
[14:50] <dougl> I think
[14:51] <DJones> !unity | xeberdee
[14:51] <damel> hey all :)
[14:51] <Shuro2> christs sake, what a pain in the ass :/
[14:51] <tovarish> !nounity
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Shuro2. we understand your frustration , but pls watch the language
[14:52] <glitsj16> coventry`: i don't know very much on acpi's inner workings, my /var/lib/acpi dir is completely empty yet things work .. i had to add a samsung PPA to get the Fn+<F-keys> all working .. so you might try a websearch on your machine's make/model to get things under control
[14:53] <Shuro2> BluesKaj: sorry for that
[14:53] <xeberdee> ubottu: Thought so too, I lost my dash an followed a forum, used command unity --reset that now boots to command line. Do you know how I might get gnome back after this kind of reset?
[14:53] <richringer> actionparsnip there was an existing bug... just no workaround listed. any ideas?
[14:53] <xeberdee> dougl: Thought so too, I lost my dash an followed a forum, used command unity --reset that now boots to command line. Do you know how I might get gnome back after this kind of reset?
[14:53] <dougl> thanks BluesKaj  - sometimes the language strikes a nerve.
[14:54] <BluesKaj> dougl. Shuro2 , been there, done that too
[14:54] <syeekick> hey
[14:54] <syeekick> i want my start key on my keyboard to open a terminal what would i have to do?
[14:54] <dougl> xeberdee, Ouch... I am lost on that one... I use kde
[14:54] <glitsj16> coventry`: i rely on the scripts from pm-utils for suspend/hibernate .. do you have that installed?
[14:55] <damel> I have not been able to get my brightness working on my laptop in 13.10. I have tried everything I can find online, but nothing seems to work. Anyone have any ideas?
[14:55] <gordonjcp> syeekick: have a look at the keyboard preferences control panel
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> !hotkey | syeekick
[14:55] <KaoticFire> try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90567/quickly-launch-any-app-in-kde-with-a-shortcut
[14:56] <coventry`> glitsj16: Thansk for the info.  Yes, I have pm-utils installed.  Surprising that I have to install a ppa for this.  linux mint 12 on the same machine had correct behavior for acpi keys two years ago.
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> damel: maybe dconf editor tweak powersettings might work?
[14:58] <damel> lotuspsychje : ok, good idea. I will check them out :) thx
[14:58] <Shuro2> having an idea, brb
[14:59] <glitsj16> coventry`: no problem, i wasn't saying you will need to have a ppa, rather implying the acpi keys situation on ubuntu looks like it could need some work indeed
[14:59] <bcuraboy> hey guys.good afternoon. is there any way to preotect with password some apps on ubuntu 13.04?
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> damel: check here the settings in dconf: http://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu/
[15:00] <damel> lotuspsychje : any idea which setting ?
[15:00] <damel> ok..thx lotuspsychje
[15:02] <syeekick> ok i wanted my windows key to open a terminal now it opens a terminal and the default splash page that you would normally get on a fresh install
[15:02] <syeekick> i couldn't find the shortcut for that i wanted to disable it
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> bcuraboy: i think its best done with a seperate user account, with limited restrictions
[15:03] <MajSlayer7777> holy smokes my c920 webcam works on unbuntu 13.10 with chrome on flash websites,,,, shocked..
[15:03] <bcuraboy> i see.and what about content lock?
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | MajSlayer7777
[15:04] <Brandano> MajSlayer7777: probably directly supported by v4l?
[15:04] <MajSlayer7777> yeah
[15:04] <MajSlayer7777> doesn't work at all with firefox:(
[15:04] <bcuraboy> for instance,if i use chrome,i can control the sites allowed to vist?
[15:04] <Brandano> I presume that the flash plugin will try to hook into v4l devices
[15:04] <MajSlayer7777> thank you google with thier built in flash support
[15:04] <web_knows> Hello
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> bcuraboy: maybe browse the software centre for password or parental control?
[15:04] <xeberdee> using unity, can I auto configure x?
[15:04] <web_knows> How do I know how much memory my integrated graphics card is using?
[15:05] <Brandano> MajSlayer7777: did you check the permission settings i the plugin? I mean, access to webcam and soundcard allowed?
[15:05] <xeberdee> using unity, can I auto configure x from command line?
[15:07] <damel> lotuspsychje : no luck :(   any other ideas?
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> damel: maybe unity-tweak-tool ?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. if you don't already have Xorg.conf , sudo Xorg -configure
[15:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: are you here?
[15:09] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yes i am
[15:09] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: i got another comment, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[15:10] <syeekick> is xubuntu the same as ubuntu ?
[15:10] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: i already updated my bios, and ran the command, but do you know  if i need to do anything else there
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: was there any change on the newer bios?
[15:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: oh and nothing changed, I still have the same problem
[15:11] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: I did unity --reset and get : compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0. I it wise to fiddle with xorg directly if unity has some manager?
[15:11] <glitsj16> damel: some systems need an extra kernel param to get brightness controls working, have you tried that yet? --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/196282/ubuntu-12-04-wifi-brightness-fn-keys-dont-work
[15:11] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: heres the output 5ECN96WW(V9.01)
[15:11] <Danato> 03/14/2013
[15:11] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: use pastebin :P
[15:12] <Danato> it was jst 2 short lines
[15:12] <tovarish> damel, do you have search something with light in the name under /sys ?
[15:13] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: but I dont get what he said about posting there not being helpful.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. not if unity/compiz are spitting out an error , usually one edits Xconf  manually in the cli using nano , if you know aht edits you'd like to to make and and how to do it correctly
[15:13] <damel> tovarish : not sure I understand you
[15:14] <tovarish> find /sys -type f 2>/dev/null | grep -i light
[15:14] <tovarish> that's how I found where I can control the backlight
[15:14] <shadej> how to setup the J2EE_HOME variable ubuntu?
[15:15] <john_doe_jr> I need to install log4net 1.2.10 on 12.04 Ubuntu Server…how do I go about doing that?
[15:15] <Shuro2> is there some special module in lvm2 which must be loaded for accessing the device-mapper?
[15:16] <damel> tovarish : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494466/
[15:16] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: he means he wants to ensure you checked with the latest bios. once you have updated and tested. just post and say that you've tested and that theres no change. and post the output of that command too. that's all
[15:16] <damel> tovarish : maybe asus-nb-wmi/backlight/ ?
[15:16] <shadej> how to setup env't variable for j2ee?
[15:16] <tovarish> damel, yes it's ok it should work
[15:16] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: jst wanted to make sure. thanks again :)
[15:17] <damel> tovarish : what should work ?
[15:17] <hitsujiTMO> damel? back light issues?
[15:17] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: I've done it before, but I'm still not sure what the problem is. If my xorg can't find the driver to use for graphic card, which might be correct as it just updated, or if the config is wiped due to the unity --reset.
[15:17] <tovarish> damel, try to write into brightness or actual_brightness
[15:17] <damel> does nothing
[15:17] <damel> already tried that
[15:18] <tovarish> you succeed in reading it ?
[15:18] <damel> yup
[15:18] <damel> 34
[15:18] <damel> but my screen is at 100
[15:18] <hitsujiTMO> damel: can you say again what the exact issue is?
[15:18] <tovarish> do you have tried different values ?
[15:18] <tovarish> you have two backlight folders
[15:18] <tovarish> have you test the two ?
[15:19] <tovarish> oups sorrym only one
[15:19] <tovarish> the other is for keyboard
[15:19] <damel> hitsujiTM0 : I cant change my brightness on my laptop screen. The number changes, but the screen always stays at 100%
[15:19] <tovarish> if you read the file you get back the number you wrote ?
[15:19] <damel> I tested the default backlight folders
[15:19] <hitsujiTMO> damel: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /sys/class/backlight
[15:21] <damel> hitsujiTM0 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494483/
[15:21] <damel> so yeah..I tested the default backlights, which did not work
[15:22] <damel> following tutorials on the internet, I added something to grub so that it could see ausus-nb-wmi
[15:22] <damel> my 'real' backlight
[15:22] <tovarish> when you wrote into brightness, and read after, do you get what you wrote?
[15:22] <hitsujiTMO> damel: and echo 10 | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/asus-nb-wmi/brightness              does nothing?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. try this , sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg , not a unity user , so not sure if this will work
[15:23] <damel> hitsujiTM0 : it changes the number in the file
[15:23] <Shuro2> running around and added dm-mod, but no help at all :/ lvm2 still didn't create the device-mappers
[15:23] <hitsujiTMO> damel: can you also pastebin the output of: ls -l /sys/class/leds
[15:23] <damel> and yes tovarish, it does save the number
[15:23] <tovarish> damel, that's impressive
[15:24] <tovarish> and is actual_brightness modified according to the number you wrote ?
[15:24] <damel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494504/
[15:24] <damel> lol...i know tovarish. thats why I'm lost
[15:24] <damel> normally everything 'should' work fine
[15:24] <damel> but its always at 100%
[15:24] <damel> and well that hurts my eyes if the screen is white
[15:25] <tovarish> my dear, I'm sad for you
[15:25] <damel> lucky I code in dark grey ;)
[15:25] <tovarish> me too dark grey, black bg
[15:25] <damel> but sometimes its just TOO bright
[15:26] <hitsujiTMO> damel: can you pastebin the output of: ls -l /sys/devices/platform
[15:27] <damel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494521/
[15:27] <hitsujiTMO> damel: nothing interesting there: what cpu do you have?
[15:28] <damel> i7
[15:28] <damel> 3rd gen
[15:28] <hitsujiTMO> damel: pastebin ls -l /sys/devices
[15:28] <damel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494528/
[15:29] <hitsujiTMO> damel: pastebin ls -l /sys/devices/pc0000:00
[15:30] <damel> ls: cannot access /sys/devices/pc0000:00: No such file or directory
[15:30] <damel> nm...i corrected it
[15:30] <hitsujiTMO> damel sorry forgot the i
[15:30] <damel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494542/
[15:30] <damel> no problem..just saw it late ;)
[15:31] <hitsujiTMO> damel: find /sys/devices/pci0000:00 -name brightness
[15:32] <damel> nothing
[15:32] <hitsujiTMO> damel: damn. thats quite unusual. what kernel are you using?
[15:32] <damel> the latest i think
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> damel: i'd almost try the latest mainline to see if theres any change
[15:33] <damel> 3.11.0-13-generic
[15:33] <hitsujiTMO> damel: well , latest stable mainline
[15:34] <damel> ok...not sure how to do that hehe
[15:34] <damel> I do an apt-get for the file
[15:34] <damel> that should install it right ?
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> damel: have a look here and try 3.12 saucy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[15:34] <damel> ok..cool
[15:34] <damel> thx
[15:34] <hitsujiTMO> damel: its 3 files you need to download and install
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> maybe its a brightness bug? makes no sense dconf dont wanna change values
[15:36] <web_knows> How do I know how much memory my integrated graphics card is using?
[15:36] <compdoc> web_knows, there should be a setting in the bios
[15:37] <web_knows> Right, a colleague just reminded me of that. But I was willing to find it out without having to reboot.
[15:37] <ikonia> web_knows: why are you asking in here when I've just given you the answer in ##linux
[15:37] <bcuraboy> hey guys.is there any chance that i could get cover-thumbnailer working in nautilus 3.4.2?
[15:37] <ikonia> a colleague ?? it was me in ##linux
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> !info hardinfo | web_knows
[15:38] <damel> whats the latest stable hitsujiTM0 : v3.12.1-trusty ?  I'm guessing is the one with the highest number without RC ?
[15:38] <web_knows> ikonia, Sorry if it offended you.
[15:38] <web_knows> lotuspsychje, Thanks.
[15:38] <ikonia> web_knows: well telling lies that a "collegaue" just told you and ignoring what I told you seems pretty rude
[15:38] <hitsujiTMO> damel: 3.12-saucy
[15:39] <sgerbino> Anyone that uses NVIDIA been able to get their tty1-6 working correctly?
[15:39] <web_knows> ikonia, When I said colleague, I was talking about you.
[15:39] <damel> ok...ill give that one a try
[15:39] <damel> see if it helps
[15:39] <damel> thx for your help :)
[15:39] <web_knows> ikonia, Does that still sound rude?
[15:39] <hitsujiTMO> damel: if this doesn't work you'll want to report a bug
[15:39] <ikonia> web_knows: yeah a bit
[15:40] <damel> sounds good...I will ask you how to do that later if it does not work ;)  lol
[15:41] <zykotick9> sgerbino: did you install the driver from nvidia.com?
[15:41] <sgerbino> zykotick9: no i installed through jockey
[15:41] <zykotick9> sgerbino: oh, actually, are you getting NO consoles in F1-F6 or are they just crappy resolution?
[15:41] <sgerbino> zykotick9: its hard to explain but its like my tty1-6 are "jittery" I see the text but its like shaking
[15:42] <sgerbino> zykotick9: i downloaded the nvidia-current package in 13.10
[15:42] <zykotick9> sgerbino: that's a new one for me... i have NO idea.  best of luck.
[15:42] <sgerbino> you have nvidia working right?
[15:43] <damel> hitsujiTM0 : I will install these, go run some errends and I will bb in 30mins. If you still around then I will let you know how it went :)  if not, thx alot for your help
[15:43] <zykotick9> sgerbino: well... i don't bother fixing the resolution (though i used to) on my non-free nvidia box... but they're "functional" (crappy resolution though)
[15:43] <hitsujiTMO> damel np
[15:43] <sgerbino> i see
[15:44] <sgerbino> i've had this problem for the last 2 releases :P
[15:44] <sgerbino> never been able to get it right, except for using nouveau
[15:44] <sgerbino> and having weak 3d acceleration if any
[15:44] <zykotick9> sgerbino: using consoles with nvidia propretary is a giant hassel.... with nouveau works great.
[15:45] <sgerbino> yeah :|
[15:46] <bcuraboy> hey guys.is there any chance that i could get cover-thumbnailer working in nautilus 3.4.2?
[15:47] <hitsujiTMO> sgerbino: maybe you could try different vga= kernel params.
[15:48] <sgerbino> hitsujiTMO: i did try that before, i forget the commands, but i listed all the applicable modes for my video card and tried each one editing the grub file right
[15:49] <sgerbino> hitsujiTMO: interesting to note, when I boot up BEFORE X server, everything is perfect, once X loads up everything goes to hell
[15:49] <hitsujiTMO> sgerbino: thats sounds a little odd alright
[15:49] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: fyi, vga= has been deprecated for a while now...  using some advanced grub options is the new vga= ;)
[15:50] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: yes i know. its just the nvidia driver does not support kms
[15:51] <hitsujiTMO> zykotick9: wait no i'm wrong they do. just not the built in kernel implementation
[15:57] <sgerbino> hitsujiTMO, zykotick9: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94559675/VIDEO0003.mp4 heres a video of this bizarreness
[15:57] <zykotick9> sgerbino: i've been searching for the answer to how to get higher resolution in console (with nvidia graphics), but i'm not finding the link (i wish i hadn't deleted my notes on this matter right now), but as a hint... look into uvesafb
[15:57] <MajSlayer7777> ops sorry Brandano was in some other room, yeah on firefox, i'm pretty sure i did
[15:58] <MajSlayer7777> so far chrome is the only browser i found to be quite reliable as far as flash goes
[15:58] <MajSlayer7777> being flash is no longer supported for linux
[15:58] <sgerbino> zykotick9: i don't think its my resolution tho, its like perfect except for the jitter
[15:58] <tovarish> flash works fine under linux
[15:59] <Rory> tovarish: Adobe are no longer updating it, including security patches
[15:59] <tovarish> Rory, seriously?
[15:59] <Rory> tovarish: for about 2 years I think?
[15:59] <Rory> tovarish: I might be wrong on the exact timeframe
[15:59] <zykotick9> sgerbino: ya, i've NOT seen that issue myself...  i've got NO suggestions.  best of luck!
[15:59] <sgerbino> zykotick9: thanks :D
[15:59] <tovarish> do you mean thaqn in 2 years we will be doomed
[16:00] <zykotick9> sgerbino: it looks UGLY (what i'd call "unusable")
[16:00] <Rory> tovarish: Adobe stopped supporting flash on Linux in feb 2012
[16:00] <tovarish> holy shit I didn't know it
[16:01] <tovarish> so I have to use windows if I want flash
[16:01] <tovarish> shit
[16:01] <Rory> tovarish: Or pepperFlash in chrome
[16:01] <Rory> !language
[16:01] <tovarish> chrome?? lol
[16:01] <Rory> tovarish: Yes, Google maintains a version of Flash which is bundled in Chrome
[16:02] <tovarish> i never use non official version
[16:02] <tovarish> they never work
[16:02] <tovarish> but adobe maintain flash for windows?
[16:02] <Rory> tovarish: Yes
[16:02] <tovarish> did M$ paid them for that?
[16:02] <Rory> tovarish: No need for that in here, we aren't rabid fanboys
[16:03] <tovarish> rabid?
[16:03] <Rory> !ot
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !flash | tovarish
[16:03] <tovarish> BluesKaj, I know how to install flash with buntu, there is a package
[16:04] <BluesKaj> tovarish. we don't know what you know , hence the info bot
[16:04] <Absolute0> What is an adequate amount of hard disc space necessary for a clean ubuntu install that will be used for python web development?
[16:04] <Rory> tovarish: That package is out of date because Adobe hasn't supported Flash for linux since february 2012 as I said
[16:05] <BluesKaj> Rory. it still works
[16:05] <Rory> I didn't say it didn't work
[16:05] <tovarish> Rory, yes, i didn't know that, and i panick because i see no decent solution to have flsh except windows
[16:06] <Brandano> tovarish: oddly enough Mac users seem to do just fine without
[16:06] <tovarish> so ubuntu has "decent" clone of flash?
[16:07]  * tovarish suffer
[16:07] <Rory> tovarish: Yes in Google Chrome
[16:07] <Brandano> IMO "flash" and "decent" don't really fit in the same sentence, but what should I know, I only used to be a flash developer
[16:07] <xangua> tovarish: if by 'clone' you mean opensource alternative plugin, no
[16:07] <Rory> tovarish: There are other things like gnash and some other things
[16:08] <tovarish> xangua, i mean something which is maintained
[16:08] <tovarish> Rory, i don't use chrome
[16:09] <xangua> tovarish: adobe maintains flash plugin 11 on linux, it just wont go further
[16:09] <theadmin> tovarish: Flash is still mantained for other browsers, but not updated. It only gets security fixes.
[16:09] <tovarish> I don't understand, theadmin, there will be security fixes for the linux version?
[16:10] <zykotick9> Absolute0: how much coffee should i brew this morning?  like your question... it depends.
[16:10] <theadmin> tovarish: Yes, of course. For now, anyways.
[16:10] <tovarish> holy .... I was scared, but it's ok
[16:11] <zykotick9> Brandano: +1 on your flash comment
[16:11] <theadmin> tovarish: Adobe said they will mantain the Linux version of Flash for security fixes, but won't add any new features.
[16:11] <Brandano> I am more scared of outdated security in the javascript interpreter, nowadays
[16:11] <tovarish> theadmin, that's cool, thx for the information
[16:12] <BluesKaj> pll shoudn't imply that apps don't work , by stating that the proprietary versionis are unsiupported, that's my point , Rory
[16:19] <lufis> Hi all, any VPN experts in? I have an OpenVPN server in tun mode running on a local network. Sometimes it allows access to other local addresses and sometimes not. Should it be tap/bridge mode for this application?
[16:20] <thepreacher> using xkb, is there a way to swap the right super key with the right ctrl key?
[16:21] <xeberdee> What is the correct way to configure nvidia driver for unity from command line?
[16:21] <xeberdee> that unity uses it?
[16:22] <hitsujiTMO> xeberdee: what gpu exactly?
[16:22] <xeberdee> hitsujiTMO: I think it's an FX3700
[16:23] <hems> How to installe bonjour on ubuntu ( is there a package on apt-get?? ) and how to set the machine name ?
[16:23] <hems> ( without using guy )
[16:23] <hems> *gui
[16:23] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. sudo nvidia-xconfig
[16:24] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: Hi again - I did that but same trouble. I'm using NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  304.88
[16:24] <hitsujiTMO> hems zeroconf afaik
[16:27] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: I think problem is that I switched to the unix driver at the same time I had done unity --reset without rebooting. Somehow unity can't use the driver, or desktop env.
[16:28] <damel> hitsujiTMO : i'm back...3.12 mainline does not boot up on my computer
[16:28] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. try the shell , ctrl+alt+f1 - f6 , run the command there
[16:28] <damel> message like : 22.253003 ERROR @wl_inform_single_bss
[16:28] <damel> what ever that means
[16:28] <damel> lol
[16:28] <xangua> damel: mainline kernel is not for daily usage
[16:29] <pc_magas> Hello what port do I need to open through my server firewall in order to be able to use OpenVPN
[16:30] <pc_magas> I have setup a OpenVPN Server on my server and I want to setup a firewall
[16:30] <llutz> pc_magas: openvpn  1194/tcp  or whatever port you configured
[16:30] <damel> xangua : I have a brightness problem (being that it does not work) and after trying everything that we could all think of, hitsujiTM0 told me I should try the mainline kernel to see if I was having the same problems
[16:31] <damel> and that if that did not work I should see about a bug report
[16:31] <damel> xangua : if you have any ideas, I'm all ears :)
[16:31] <xeberdee> BluesKaj:I am in bash, I have nothing else. The old xorg was very very short, if I figure out how to dpaste from bash... The nvidia-xorgconfig generated file is much larger. How could the old file (from the working gnome desk) be the correct conf file?
[16:32] <hitsujiTMO> damel: damn uninstall it and report a bug on launchpad.net https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToZeroconf
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> damel: damn wrong link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[16:34] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. , have you tried to install nvidia-current ?
[16:34] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: there's nothing wrong with using mainline on a daily basis. just some of the specific ubuntu patches have not been applied to it. its the vanilla stable kernel
[16:34] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: no - I'll try
[16:35] <zykotick9> xeberdee: fyi, you can use pastebinit from terminal to paste quite easily...
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> xangua: its a case of not installing mainline unless you actually need it tho
[16:36] <xeberdee> zykotick9: thankz
[16:36] <xeberdee> s
[16:36] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: :) nvidia-current is already the newest version.
[16:37] <glitsj16> damel: tough issue it seems .. just another (wild) guess .. if you have NVIDIA gpu, you could try adding Option "registryDwords" "EnableBrightnessControl=1" in the appropriate Device section of the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[16:38] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: thinking that unity --reset has done the correct default setting for 12.04 server. Maybe I need to tell unity toi use a desktop or something?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> unity is a desktop
[16:39] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: s/desktop/shell/ then yes ;)
[16:40] <BluesKaj> afaik , whatever the correct definition is , that's what unity is to me
[16:40] <tovarish> :)
[16:40] <BluesKaj> even tho it uses compiz :)
[16:41] <zykotick9> BluesKaj: unity sits on top of the gnome desktop enivroment - is all i meant
[16:41] <clockworks> hi i have the following situation with a bootable usb flash drive: fdisk -l shows me only one partition "/dev/sdc1     1    62533295    31266647+  ee  GPT", but gparted sees the actual partitions. when i boot the stick i only see a purple blank screen and nothing happens
[16:42] <damel> glitsj16 : I do have NVIDIA gpu...but no xorg.conf file
[16:42] <clockworks> i installed ubuntu ontu the stick directly, and it worked until now
[16:42] <shrimpy> ls
[16:42] <zykotick9> clockworks: fdisk doesn't support GPT...
[16:42] <clockworks> oh interesting
[16:42] <damel> I saw something like that...but when I did not find the file, I stopped trying :)
[16:42] <BluesKaj> zykotick9. , yeah , but why ?, a lot of ppl were happy with gnome
[16:42] <clockworks> zykotick9: so it isnt some partition table problem
[16:42] <clockworks> zykotick9: any idea how i could fix the purple blank screen thing?
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> clockworks: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[16:43] <clockworks> hitsujiTMO: sdc u mean?
[16:43] <zykotick9> clockworks: no - to both your questions.  best of luck.  have you tried nomodeset?
[16:43] <hitsujiTMO> clocKwize: yes sdc in that case
[16:43] <clockworks> zykotick9: the problem is i cannot boot into the system anymore, and pressing shift on startup does not show me the grub menu. is there a way to modify the grub thing from another system?
[16:43] <clockworks> thans hitsujiTMO
[16:44] <glitsj16> damel: you can generate one to test if it changes anything brightness wise .. use sudo nvidia-xconfig or the nvidia-settings GUI and add that option before rebooting (if you're not already lost all hairs getting your issue fixed heh)
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> clocKwize: try left shift, right shift + esc to get the grub menu
[16:44] <clockworks> hitsujiTMO: installing it now
[16:44] <clockworks> oh intersting
[16:44] <clockworks> i always tried right shit
[16:44] <clockworks> shift
[16:44] <zykotick9> clockworks: yes, if you can liveboot something, see teh !grub instructions for fixing grub
[16:44] <clockworks> lol
[16:44] <FloodBot1> clockworks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <BluesKaj> xeberdee. so are you not able to login to a desktop , or is it a graphics res problem ?
[16:44] <clockworks> zykotick9: well i cannot pass any input to the system so far
[16:44] <xeberdee> How do I start unity correct from terminal?
[16:45] <clockworks> !grub
[16:45] <zykotick9> clockworks: just HOLD shift after you see bios BTW
[16:45] <damel> glitsj16 : I will give it a try, got two or three hairs left ;)
[16:45] <smaudet> Hey, guy here with the inodes problems. I've backed up my home directory, I'm ready to try to troubleshoot this ecryptfs issue more thoroughly. Can anyone recommend the best way to migrate my files to a new user account? Should it be just as simple as creating the new user, and dropping the files in? Using Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[16:45] <clockworks> zykotick9: yes was doing that
[16:45] <clockworks> left shift though
[16:45] <clockworks> er right shift. let me try left shift
[16:45] <zykotick9> clockworks: i always juse my left shift?!?!
[16:45] <clockworks> lol why, right one is much larger
[16:46] <glitsj16> damel: :) it might need that acpi_backlight=vendor param as well, not sure about that though, good luck
[16:46] <zykotick9> clockworks: ;) same size on my keyboard
[16:46] <clockworks> hitsujiTMO: gdisk shows it correctly
[16:46] <clockworks> so no partition table issue it seems
[16:46] <xeberdee> BluesKaj: That's what I'm trying to figure out. I can't log into a desktop anymore after switch to unix nvidia driver and unity --reset
[16:46] <clockworks> heh ok zykotick9
[16:46] <clockworks> anyway let me try that
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> so you're using uefi boot right?
[16:46] <zykotick9> clockworks: if you are using GPT, forget about fdisk.  use gdisk or parted/gparted.
[16:47] <clockworks> thanks will remember that
[16:47] <clockworks> somebody should fix fdisk
[16:47] <clockworks> or it will die and become part of history
[16:47] <damel> glitsj16 : yeah, gotcha. Already added it so there should be no problems there :)
[16:47] <damel> should be
[16:47] <damel> lol
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> clocKwize: its not broken. fdisk is for mbr, gdisk is for gpt
[16:48] <clockworks> k
[16:48] <zykotick9> clockworks: actually fdisk is the WORST choich for partitioning (at least according to "man fdisk")
[16:48] <clockworks> lol
[16:49] <tovarish> zykotick9, strangely, it's still the best :D
[16:50] <zykotick9> clockworks: for example "fdisk is a buggy program that does fuzzy things..."
[16:51] <Brandano> I'd be interested in alternatives to fdisk
[16:52] <zykotick9> Brandano: gdisk, cfdisk, parted, gparted... you have lots to choose from
[16:52] <Brandano> Ah, right, sorry
[16:52] <Brandano> I forgot parted. Which is what I generally use. Man, I am tired
[16:52] <Brandano> I mean, I was thinking parted when you mentioned fdisk
[17:03] <alket> Hi I am having a problem with Chrome and Ktorrent with magnet link, whenever I click a magnet link in Chrome the Ktorrent opens but download doesn't start and in System Notifications its always pending ? Thank you in advance !
[17:04] <w0rmie> hey there
[17:07] <w0rmie> i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04.3 on DELL XPS 8700 but i get an error message like: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system.
[17:08] <w0rmie> any ideas?
[17:08] <zykotick9> w0rmie: is this from USB media?  if so, how did you create the USB?  unetbootin in windows perhaps?
[17:09] <w0rmie> yes sir.
[17:09] <zykotick9> that's common.  best of luck.
[17:09] <theadmin> w0rmie: Bad idea, Unetbootin is not recommended by the Ubuntu team. The Universal USB Installer is the recommended way of creating a liveUSB on Windows
[17:09] <w0rmie> using universal usb installer from windows 7 pro
[17:09] <Sven_vB> my thinpad t420 just hard-rebooted. (like temporary power outage, but battery is nearly full and PSU attached.) it does that every few weeks, but now i've experienced it "fresh" ... so is there anything i could do to debug the incident?
[17:09] <theadmin> w0rmie: Ah, okay then
[17:09] <theadmin> w0rmie: Hm... Should of work
[17:09] <xeberdee> no desktop in unity after unity reset - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494981/
[17:10] <blunderful> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04.3 alongside Win 8 but the screen is blank with the Ubuntu color background after selecting Ubuntu from GRUB.
[17:11] <blunderful> Any ideas?
[17:11] <geoffmcc> w0rmie: common problem usb install 12.04. Ubuntu 13.10 works like a charm, but try this for 12.04 http://cirrus.ucsd.edu/~pierce/fix_ubuntu_usb/
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> theadmin: universal usb installer doesn't work for most people actually ( particularly with 13.10 )
[17:12] <theadmin> hitsujiTMO: Oh? I dunno. The only tool I've been using in the recent years is dd
[17:12] <theadmin> hitsujiTMO: ;)
[17:12] <geoffmcc> w0rmie: link assumes you still have access to windows, you will need active perl for windows to use the script
[17:12] <w0rmie> i though is something about SATA configuration, i switched to AHCI but same thing.
[17:13] <theadmin> hitsujiTMO: I just assume from the recommendation on the official Ubuntu wobsite..
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> theadmin: the biggest cause on non booting usbs that i dealt with here on 13.10 release was that tool. unetbootin or linuxliveusb is far better
[17:13] <w0rmie> geoffb: i'll take a look, thank you folks :)
[17:13] <geoffmcc> w0rmie: from what i have read it has to do with the file names being truncated on usb
[17:15] <xeberdee> What is the correct way to start unity from terminal?
[17:15] <theadmin> xeberdee: "unity".
[17:15] <theadmin> xeberdee: unity &disown if you want to be able to close that terminal later
[17:15] <xeberdee> theadmin: I get an error
[17:16] <theadmin> xeberdee: What's the error?
[17:16] <xeberdee> at the bottom of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6494981/
[17:16] <khoury> Hello people. Im fairly new to ubuntu, or linux and servers in general. I have a problem involving my ssh keys..
[17:16] <khoury> Trying to deploy from my local machine to my ubuntu server.
[17:17] <khoury> Using Capistrano, it's a rails application.
[17:17] <hitsujiTMO> xeberdee: try startx if you don't have a display open
[17:17] <antoine> quit
[17:17] <zykotick9> hitsujiTMO: i'm not sure if startx is configured to work OOTB in ubuntu?  "sudo service lightdm start" might make more sense?  xeberdee
[17:18] <khoury> Anyway, here a stackoverflow question i posted if anyone could help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20288969/capistrano-netsshauthenticationfailed
[17:18] <jahongir> Hi
[17:18] <khoury> Basically, I can't figure out how to give my ubuntu server the right access. They keys might not be configured, maybe I have missed a step some where?
[17:19] <khoury> :s
[17:19] <CookieM> hello jahongir
[17:19] <theadmin> khoury: Did you run ssh-keygen and make the keys?
[17:19] <Hetal_> I need some help with an application using php
[17:19] <khoury> theadmin: I followed githubs guide for generating keys
[17:19] <Hetal_> php -S 0.0.0.0:81 index.php
[17:19] <theadmin> khoury: Ah, okays
[17:20] <Hetal_> It says -S isnt an option
[17:20] <khoury> So I do have a key
[17:20] <khoury> And I added it to my bitbucket deploy keys
[17:20] <Hetal_> If I take out -S, then it says that there is no input file
[17:20] <zykotick9> khoury: did you use ssh-copy-id to copy the key to the server?
[17:20] <pahaloom> anyone having problems getting lenovo T430 bluetooth to work? lsusb tells me it is ID 0a5c:21e6 Broadcom Corp. BCM20702 Bluetooth 4.0 [ThinkPad]
[17:20] <khoury> Hmm Yes, wait I did that just a minute ago but I dont know if it succeeded, let me check.
[17:21] <theadmin> Hetal_: -S is only present since PHP 5.4, which Ubuntu version are you running?
[17:21] <Hetal_> 13.04
[17:21] <theadmin> Hetal_: Hm, should be there. But port 81 is priveleged, you won't be able to listen on it
[17:21] <theadmin> Hetal_: (not without sudo, anyway, and you shouldn't run that as root)
[17:22] <Hetal_> Then should I just change thee port?
[17:22] <theadmin> Hetal_: You simply need to run "php -S 0.0.0.0:8080", without the "index.php" bit, in a folder which you want to be your servers' root.
[17:22] <khoury> zykotick9: Can I check if that is done some how?
[17:22] <Hetal_> -S isnt a valid option
[17:22] <Hetal_> Is what it says
[17:22] <intspin> hello, I'm trying to install ubuntu on  a new laptop (lenovo u430 touch). It's got UEFI buy no cd/dvd drive
[17:23] <zykotick9> khoury: to be honest, i wouldn't know how to test - other then trying to login after... sorry.
[17:23] <Hetal_> rror in argument 1, char 2: option not found Ssage: php [-q] [-h] [-s] [-v] [-i] [-f <file>]
[17:23] <theadmin> Hetal_: That's strange, what's the output of "php -v"?
[17:23] <intspin> but no cd... are there efi usb boot images?
[17:23] <Hetal_> 4.4.9
[17:23] <theadmin> wat
[17:23] <intspin> or some other solution?
[17:23] <Hetal_> And I have done apt-get install php5
[17:24] <theadmin> Hetal_: 4.4.9? PHP 4?
[17:24] <theadmin> Where did you even
[17:24] <Hetal_> 4.4.9
[17:24] <khoury> zykotick9: Well I do have the keys, but for example if I do a ssh git@github.com from my server, it asks for my passphrase, which it shouldn't if im deploying.
[17:24] <Hetal_> Thats what it says
[17:24] <khoury> Then if I enter the pass, i get the message: PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
[17:24] <Laurenceb> hi
[17:25] <Laurenceb> i have a problem with ntp
[17:25] <khoury> followed by: authenticated via a deploy key.
[17:25] <Laurenceb> i cant get ntp daemon to set the system time
[17:25] <khoury> and finally: You can use git or hg to connect to Bitbucket. Shell access is disabled.
[17:25] <khoury> So yea..
[17:25] <Laurenceb> i have ntpd running
[17:26] <Hetal_> How would I uninstall php 4.4.9
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> Hetal_  apt-get purge [package]
[17:27] <Hetal_> I had manually installed it
[17:28] <intspin> How do I install ubuntu on a uefi system with no cd/dvd drive - any easy way? Would like dual boot with win 8.1
[17:28] <zykotick9> khoury: sorry, now that i know exactly what your using your ssh key for - i won't help further.  best of luck (don't include my nick further).
[17:28] <xeberdee> startx - no screens found : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495067/
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> intspin  ith a bootable usb stick
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> with*
[17:30] <intspin> MonkeyDust: thanks, tried that but no luck - I think it's because the image wasn't EFI? Any easy way of making usb boot efi?
[17:32]  * intspin hmmms
[17:33] <khoury> zykotick9: what do you mean?
[17:35] <xeberdee> I can only boot into terminal 12.04 server, no unity : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495067/
[17:35] <theadmin> xeberdee: The server edition doens't come with a GUI.
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> xeberdee  meaning: it's text-only
[17:39] <xeberdee> theadmin: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS - Is that the server?
[17:40] <theadmin> xeberdee: That's just the version number, it doesn't say "server" or not
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> xeberdee  there's desktop and server
[17:41] <theadmin> xeberdee: "LTS" means Long-Term Support, simply meaning that the Ubuntu team will provide updates and support for this version longer than for others, and that it's potentially more stable
[17:42] <blunderful> Can anybody help me with my booting problem (preferably one-on-one via PM?)
[17:42] <xeberdee> theadmin: ok - I've used both, but I'm not ssure if I installed a dektop at some point, it's been up a while.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> blunderful  throw it in the channel and wait
[17:43] <blunderful> MonkeyDust: I threw it in 32 minutes ago.
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> blunderful  then press the up key to repeat it, maybe someone knows, who wasnt here 32 minutes ago
[17:43] <blunderful> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 12.04.3 alongside Win 8 but the screen is blank with the Ubuntu color background after selecting Ubuntu from GRUB.
[17:43] <sab0> hi...can any one please explain me about this system log messages on my ubuntu "Nov 29 17:15:29 my-laptop -- MARK --"
[17:44] <theadmin> blunderful: Press Escape during boot and say if it shows you any errors.
[17:44] <llutz> sab0: "man syslogd" look for "-m interval"
[17:45] <sab0> llutz, thanks
[17:45] <waykool99> if possibly safe, how would i Undo the Low Latency Kernel stuff?
[17:47] <blunderful> theadmin: Hmm, now it takes me to a tty1 session
[17:48] <ezra-s> waykool99, what do you mean by "undo the low latency kernel stuff"?
[17:48] <theadmin> blunderful: No errors visible?
[17:48] <xeberdee> I can only boot into terminal 12.04, no unity : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495067/
[17:48] <blunderful> theadmin: There was something about microcode.
[17:48] <sab0> llutz, i read -m interval, but confused with my understanding, does this field refer to ideal time interval of the system ?
[17:49] <sab0> llutz, should be IDLE
[17:49] <theadmin> blunderful: Uh. Could you possibly tell me the exact message? If it's not on screen anymore, do tail /var/log/boot.log
[17:49] <nas_> what software iso file into flash drive
[17:49] <Brandano> xeberdee: try grepping /var/log/Xorg.0.log for [EE]
[17:49] <waykool99> just installed for the 3rd time, on 2 pc's, ubuntu Studio v13.10 64 bit. noticed it installed "low latency". with constant crashes, glitches etc, wondering if Low Latency is the cause?
[17:50] <blunderful> theadmin: No errors there.
[17:50] <shtdck> hey
[17:50] <nas_> what software iso file into flash drive
[17:50] <shtdck> hey whats up
[17:50] <shtdck> hey
[17:50] <genii> nas_: In Linux, just use dd
[17:51] <nas_> burn iso file into usb drive
[17:51] <shtdck> hey
[17:51] <nas_> what software
[17:51] <shtdck> echo hey
[17:51] <shtdck> whats up
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> shtdck  did ypou have a ubuntu support question?
[17:51] <nas_> anything dd
[17:51] <blunderful> theadmin: But the error that popped up was something like failed to load amd-code something.
[17:52] <shtdck> just setting up new server any must have command line apps that will make life easier?
[17:52] <genii> nas_: eg:   sudo dd if=iso-inputfile of=/dev/sdX     where /dev/sdX  is the drive designation of your usb flash drive
[17:52] <theadmin> blunderful: Oh. Hm, not sure what that could be
[17:52] <Brandano> nas_: if you want to make a bootable drive from an iso image you want to look at this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> shtdck  http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html
[17:53] <theadmin> shtdck: mc (a file manager), htop (task manager), screen or tmux (terminal multiplexers) are a must-have, I'd say
[17:53] <shtdck> thx
[17:53] <shtdck> yeah got mc and htop
[17:53] <Brandano> nas_: if you only have windows you can refer to this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:53] <nas_> ok i ca check
[17:54] <theadmin> shtdck: A text-editor of your preference, of course, too. Vim, Emacs or Nano. Nano should be preinstalled.
[17:54] <llutz> sab0: if syslogd has nothing to log for <interval> minutes, it logs "MARK" to say "hey, i'm still alive, just idling"
[17:54] <Noiano> hello
[17:55] <dougl> when can one expect a ppa source for handbrake for 13.10?
[17:55] <theadmin> dougl: PPAs are unrelated to the Ubuntu team. They don't provide them, so whenever one makes one.
[17:55] <Brandano> nas_: these are mainly for installers, though. If you want a liveusb with advanced features like storage on the USB drive you should probably just install on the usb drive
[17:55] <sab0> llutz, thank you, can you please suggest me any book or link from where i can learn how to understand log file in ubuntu?
[17:56] <Brandano> paying attention at where the installer is trying to put the boot manager
[17:56] <blunderful> theadmin: sudo Xorg -configure gives "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"
[17:56] <theadmin> blunderful: Ergh. Sounds like some driver issue to me.
[17:56] <Brandano> nas_: but be careful not to relpace the boot manager of the machine you are using
[17:56] <nas_> brandano thank this tool very sample, easy and faster
[17:57] <llutz> sab0: not offhand, sry
[17:57] <Brandano> yes, but you need the right image for a liveusb as opposed to installer media
[17:57] <blunderful> theadmin: so I should install the drivers from tty1?
[17:57] <Brandano> btw, dd won't create boot sectors for you
[17:58] <theadmin> blunderful: You can, but I'm not sure which ones you'd want
[17:58] <blunderful> :/
[17:58] <theadmin> blunderful: Since it's an AMD GPU, I guess you should try fglrx
[17:59] <blunderful> theadmin: ok
[17:59] <Dax|64> I had experienced some issues with installing fglrx on 12.04, is it any better with 13.10?
[18:00] <Dax|64> also is it just me or can you not change your memory or gpu clocks even with a successful install of fglrx
[18:01] <t__> Does anyone know how to install desmume 0.9.10 or 0.9.9 on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:03] <rocks> Hello. Two days ago, on raring, while downloading a torrent, my filesystem locked up and told me that everything became readonly. a reboot and fsck solved it but two days later, same problem and my system restarts when booting. Have I been hit by the ext4 data corruption bug?
[18:05] <blunderful> theadmin: No change :(
[18:05] <genii> rocks: It's much more likely that either your hard drive is beginning to fail, or that the files you are downloading are larger than the available space in the place where you are putting them.
[18:06] <xangua> t__: sudo apt-get install desmume
[18:06] <rocks> I have plenty of free space in the partitions. 86gb free on one, on another partition with elementary os I got a similar error and was told when trying to remount that some of the partitions are no longer in /etc/fstab
[18:07] <rocks> a short smartctl showed no errors on the partition
[18:07] <Guest12997> how can I insert new modules into the kernel at runtime? I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto but I dont have a service module-init-tools
[18:07] <rocks> I guess I have to try a long smartctl now
[18:07] <Guest12997> *while the system is running* instead of 'at runtime'
[18:08] <Guest12997> !sensors
[18:08] <rocks> Is smartctl reliable for telling disk errors?
[18:09] <genii> rocks: Might want also to enable SMART in your bios if it isn't already on in there. So that even before booting it should say something like "Imminent hard drive failure, back up your data"
[18:09] <rocks> I have smart enabled in bios
[18:09] <rocks> i got no imminent haerd drive failure error
[18:09] <zykotick9> rocks: smartctl will show disk errors, but not filesystem errors.  are you using device names like /dev/sda1 in your fstab my chance?
[18:10] <zykotick9> s/my chance/by chance/
[18:10] <rocks> it has UUIDs in fstab
[18:10] <zykotick9> ok
[18:10] <rocks> so how to check filesystem errors?
[18:11] <zykotick9> fsck
[18:11] <rocks> I will try from live usb
[18:12] <rocks> If there are fs errors, then I will need to know if hard drive is failing or not
[18:13] <rocks> if it's fs errors, could it be the ext4 corruoption bug, because on mint forums other complained of same thing
[18:13] <rocks> I saw on their forums
[18:14] <rocks> and I saw a bug on launchpad with 74 people complaining of their fs becoming read only so I wondered if it's bug or failing hdd. how to tell?
[18:18] <xeberdee> Brandano: cheers fro earlier advice, that told me - Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! I think it is the unix nvidia drivers not intalled correct or something. Totally lost now in terminal withj no browser :)
[18:18] <Brandano> try re-installing the nvidia drivers
[18:19] <Brandano> or removing them, It ought to give you the standard VGA drivers back
[18:19] <nas_> xeberdee i use nvidia is steel ok
[18:20] <zykotick9> Brandano: fyi, nvidia propritary blacklists nouveau... which would need to be removed to get the free nouveau back
[18:20] <Brandano> zykotick9: ah, that's annoying. But it ought to fall back to non-accelerated VGA anyway?
[18:21] <zykotick9> Brandano: ya, not sure how well that's gonna work out...
[18:21] <xDreal> Hello guys, i got a short question is their a way to install ubuntu without keyboard
[18:21] <Brandano> which is not a solution but at least allows you to search for a solution from a graphic environment
[18:21] <Brandano> personally I am comfortable enough with a terminal
[18:21] <theadmin> xDreal: If you have a mouse, yes, there's a virtual keyboard app in Ubuntu
[18:21] <xeberdee> I'll try remove reboot.
[18:22] <theadmin> xDreal: So boot the livecd, click "Try Ubuntu" and locate "Onboard" in the applications menu
[18:22] <theadmin> xDreal: Should be under "Accessibilty"
[18:25] <xDreal> can i start the installation throught my installed working ubuntu, since i cannot access the bios because the keys are not working
[18:25] <theadmin> xDreal: Oh, uh...... yeah, that sounds like a problem. I'm not sure how to do that
[18:25] <Brandano> usb keyboard?
[18:26] <theadmin> Yeah, that's the best solution
[18:26] <xDreal> alright (= thought about that will buy one later
[18:26] <_root_> the question was long  help on :   http://serverfault.com/questions/558301/setting-2-ips-on-ubuntu-12-04-with-two-network-adaptor-card
[18:26] <kerin> +1. even if you could install the way you're asking you'd be screwed if grub didn't detect something correctly
[18:26] <Brandano> get someone to lend you one
[18:26] <kerin> and if you're doing something unusual during the install, a grub-related issue is more likely
[18:27] <Brandano> maybe you have one around and don't realize it, like the one that comes on some cheap android tablets
[18:27] <nas_> onboard virtual keyboard
[18:29] <kerin> nas_, I assume he means he needs a keyboard at boot to select boot volume/specify kernel params like nomodeset
[18:30] <xDreal> no, i got none to change booting device
[18:30] <xDreal> to usb
[18:30] <xDreal> its an old laptop i used for recording etc, but i dumbed it somehow, cant install anything
[18:30] <nas_> i can't sure
[18:31] <Hassen> indeed gentlemen..it looks like the ubuntu iso image that i was messing with this morning is corrupted,or badly downloaded,now after downloading it from ubuntu site with a ubuntu logo favicon,yumi is making the live cd successfully,now just testing it is the left stage
[18:31] <xDreal> http://ftp.stw-bonn.de/ubuntu-cd//saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:34] <xDreal> alright, and i got another question, is their any programm i can draw on a touchscreen, and still write like with libreoffice
[18:36] <Hassen> this is the one that i've got anyway: http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-i386.iso
[18:37] <t__> Does anyone know how to install desmume 0.9.10 or 0.9.9 on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:38] <xDreal> if i renember right desmume is in the useal software
[18:38] <t__> Useal?
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> t__  find a .deb or a ppa, but that's not supported here, you would be on your own if something goes wrong
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> !info desmume
[18:40] <t__> .... gross. I have a deb but when I try to install it, it says Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib2.0-0 (>=2.35.9)
[18:40] <xDreal> than install libglib2
[18:40] <t__> I have it but it is a lower version then 2.35
[18:41] <xDreal> sudo apt-get update
[18:42] <xDreal> sudo apt-get libglib2.35.9
[18:42] <shltdlck> back again
[18:43] <t__> "Unable to locate package libglib2.35.9"
[18:43] <Dopium> help
[18:44] <Dopium> how do I register my nick on here its been a minute since I used IRC
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> Dopium  start with a question
[18:44] <geoffmcc> t__: apt-get version is probably lower than what you need. I searched google for libglib2.35 ubuntu and found many ppa's that have the version you need
[18:44] <MonkeyDust> !register
[18:44] <t__> What command can I put into my terminal to add that ppa?
[18:45] <Dopium> !register
[18:46] <xDreal> if u look in the ubuntu software center
[18:46] <xDreal> arent u able to install desmume
[18:46] <t__> Yes, but it's a older version that doesn't run at full speed.
[18:47] <t__> 0.9.9 and 0.9.10 has speed improvements.
[18:47] <ilikegnome> hello everyone. I recently installed ubuntu 13.10 on my new pc, I have 3 monitors and 3-way sli (GTX 780) I've tried using nvidia-settings to configure the monitors, however, after i login, I just get a black screen on my displays
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> t__  and the newer version doesnt work
[18:48] <_root_> Onepamopa: exactly setting 2 ip on eth0 and eth1 ;;; one for each and both pingable from outside the full problem here: http://serverfault.com/questions/558301/setting-2-ips-on-ubuntu-12-04-with-two-network-adaptor-card
[18:48] <smaudet> anyone?
[18:48] <t__> It seems to be in the software center for newer versions of Ubuntu.
[18:48] <xDreal> alright i got  indesmume 0.9.9stalledd
[18:48] <t__> How?
[18:48] <geoffmcc> t__: my bad, its not ppa, but it has source you need https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glib2.0
[18:48] <smaudet> attempting to migrate user account, appreciate the help
[18:48] <smaudet> !user
[18:49] <smaudet> !usermove
[18:49] <zykotick9> !moveuser
[18:49] <geoffmcc> t__: what version of ubuntu are you using
[18:49] <t__> 12.04
[18:49] <bazhang> !home
[18:49] <zykotick9> !movehome
[18:49] <ilikegnome> anyone?
[18:49] <t__> 64 bit, sorry.
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> t__  then try the -backdoors to get a newer version than that of 12.04
[18:50] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, backports you mean
[18:50] <t__> How do I do that?
[18:50] <smaudet> bazhang, thnx
[18:50] <MonkeyDust> bazhang  t__ apologies, backports, it is
[18:51] <Ilmen> Is it possible to run linux program from NTFS partitions? (under Ubuntu of course)
[18:52] <Beldar> Ilmen, nope
[18:52] <ObrienDave> should be able to. no guarantees
[18:52] <ilikegnome> Ilmen I dont think so
[18:52] <t__> I already had backports enabled.
[18:52] <Beldar> Ilmen, Program maybe, OS no, can you be more detailed?
[18:53] <xeberdee> Problems with NVIDIA, no unity - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496/
[18:53] <Ilmen> Even portable programs (those that don't need external files)?
[18:53] <ilikegnome> xeberdee tried switching to gnome still to no avail
[18:54] <Ilmen> well, thanks for the replies :)
[18:54] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: what do you mean?
[18:54] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: I thought unity was gnome
[18:55] <ilikegnome> no two different environments xeberdee
[18:55] <Beldar> xeberdee, It runs on top of gnome 3 as a compiz plugin.
[18:56] <xeberdee> Beldar: Ah, ok so maube my ccsm is broken?
[18:56] <ilikegnome> I've even removed my xorg.conf file and only one display works
[18:56] <servlsuser> hello
[18:57] <ilikegnome> Has anyone else had the same issue as me?
[18:57] <SlutaTramsa> I'm having problems with tearing. Is there any good solutions to tearing? I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 with the open source amd drivers (xserver-xorg-video-ati)
[18:57] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: what's the isue?
[18:57] <smaudet> Ilmen, not sure why you'd want to do that, if you want to run linux, you want to use ext or something, we only use ntfs to make windows happy :)
[18:57] <Beldar> xeberdee, One can run specific unity and compiz resets per releases be sure to have the correct one, nvidia users do have problems. Be specific of the problems to the channel if you want help though.
[18:58] <ilikegnome> xeberdee i'm running three displays off three graphics cards (gtx 780) and only one works
[18:58] <ilikegnome> so 3-way sli
[18:59] <xeberdee> Beldar: what do you need to know other than what I put in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496/
[18:59] <smaudet> ilikegnome, I don't know nearly enough about sli, but could the problem perhaps be the sli?
[18:59] <smaudet> ilikegnome, i.e. from what I remember sli is a port system for the graphics cards that creates 'slave' cards that don't output displays
[19:00] <Beldar> xeberdee, Not an area I'm best at the channel would want to know what is actually happening, and exactly what drivers you have installed
[19:00] <ilikegnome> only one display works, to clarify... smaudet i dont know this is my first machine with sli... shouldnt be nvidia-settings recognizes the displays
[19:00] <smaudet> if that's true, that would probably be your problem
[19:00] <ilikegnome> smaudet idk how to disable sli on ubuntu, need it for windows though, running a dual-boot setup
[19:00] <xeberdee> I have nvidia_current
[19:01] <smaudet> ilikegnome, oh so are you trying to run one desktop or 3 displays?
[19:01] <ilikegnome> I have nvidia drivers from xorg-edgers ppa
[19:01] <ilikegnome> running three displays smaudet
[19:01] <smaudet> Xorg actually lets you run three displays, which is different from one desktop on 3 monitors
[19:02] <Beldar> xeberdee, Generally, having that info available is good but just posting it is backwards for help is all.
[19:02] <ilikegnome> yeah trying to run 3 seperate desktops on 3 displays no luck thus far
[19:02] <xeberdee> I have nvidia_current, I have no desktop environment, no browser, bad res too. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496/
[19:02] <ilikegnome> same xeberdee
[19:02] <smaudet> ilikegnome, well I don't know if its possible. I would disable the sli just for testing purposes
[19:02] <xeberdee> xeberdee: can anybody help me get back into unity.
[19:03] <ilikegnome> xeberdee delete xorg,conf
[19:03] <ilikegnome> xorg.conf*
[19:03] <smaudet> if thats your issue then windows isn't smart enough to dual boot this machine, because windows can't run 3 displays...
[19:03] <smaudet> But that'd be the first thing I'd try
[19:03] <smaudet> Or maybe there's a software option to turn of the sli?
[19:03] <smaudet> :)
[19:04] <smaudet> off*
[19:04] <ilikegnome> smaudet idk how to disable sli... windows can indeed run 3 displays doing it now
[19:04] <smaudet> ilikegnome, do you have three start buttons?
[19:04] <ilikegnome> no
[19:04] <smaudet> then it can't
[19:04] <smaudet> that's one display
[19:05] <ilikegnome> it can if sli is disabled, one monitor and my tv have a start button, i'm using nvidia surround, just cant figure out how to disable sli under ubunty
[19:05] <ilikegnome> ubuntu*
[19:06] <Guest55783> I need to ask something
[19:06] <smaudet> ilikegnome, ok well then that is probably the issue, sorry I don't know enough about sli, try ##hardware maybe? Or go ask #xorg or something
[19:06] <ilikegnome> ok will try smaudet
[19:06] <smaudet> Nvidia-settings is usually smart enough to do one display, 3 screens though
[19:06] <smaudet> so you just need to figure out how to turn off sli :)
[19:06] <ilikegnome> yeah one display is working using it now... yeah going to try to do so
[19:07] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: my old xorg.conf was tiny, I don't even think it is the one used for config of x. The one at /etc/X11/xorg.conf yes?
[19:07] <ilikegnome> yeah
[19:07] <Beldar> Guest55783, State you ubuntu issues to the channel for help.
[19:07] <Beldar> your*
[19:08] <ilikegnome> xeberdee reboot, press ctrl+alt+f3, login and do sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf and do sudo reboot
[19:09] <Stefan48> My ISP is VIP mobile(Serbia) and I use VIP Online 9 mobile internet and I can't configure ubuntu to use my USB modem.I have windows app that can connect me,but how to run that app
[19:09] <Stefan48> ?
[19:09] <ikonia> Stefan48: does it need the app to work ?
[19:09] <ikonia> Stefan48: or does it just need to be configured ?
[19:09] <Stefan48> app is bether
[19:10] <Stefan48> *better
[19:10] <ikonia> that's not what I asked
[19:10] <ikonia> does it NEED the app, or can it just be configured
[19:10] <Stefan48> I am noob,I don't know,but I think it needs an app
[19:10] <ikonia> Stefan48: then I'd suggest talking to the provider and asking if/how they support linux
[19:11] <Stefan48> maybe
[19:11] <Stefan48> Do you heard for Wine
[19:11] <ikonia> yes
[19:11] <ikonia> and I recommend you stay clear of it
[19:11] <ikonia> and just contact the provider and ask if/how they support linux
[19:11] <Stefan48> thanks
[19:12] <Stefan48> got to go,bye
[19:16] <dannymichel> Are most people on LTS of 13.10? Just curious.
[19:16] <dannymichel> or*
[19:17] <ilikegnome> smaudet sli is off... let me paste my xorg.conf to ubuntu pastebin
[19:18] <Beldar> dannymichel, 13.10 is not a lts
[19:18] <dannymichel> or* Beldar
[19:18] <Beldar> ah
[19:18] <Beldar> dannymichel, Hard to say, an unanswerable questions at the least.
[19:19] <dannymichel> you on LTS Beldar ?
[19:19] <xeberdee> Locked out of unity. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496
[19:19] <Beldar> dannymichel, Both and 14.04 at the moment.
[19:19] <xeberdee> Locked out of unity. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495496
[19:19] <dannymichel> you have 3 installs Beldar ?
[19:19] <Beldar> yes, and W8.1
[19:19] <dannymichel> LTS and 13.10 and 14.04 Beldar ?
[19:20] <dannymichel> why 3 installs Beldar ?
[19:20] <Beldar> dannymichel, why not is my answer?
[19:21] <Beldar> I run all releases at some point I just don;t remove them always
[19:21] <ilikegnome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495631/
[19:22] <dannymichel> you ever use 'sudo update-manager -d' Beldar ? should i or is it recommended just to fresh install?
[19:23] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: my old xorg.conf (when ssys worked) looked like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495644/
[19:24] <ilikegnome> do you have an nvidia card xeberdee?
[19:24] <Beldar> dannymichel, I never upgrade, that would take about 3-4 hours here and I have okay download speed, I can fresh install and have it the same in less than and hour.
[19:24] <dannymichel> gotcha. my DL is 50mbps. how does that compare to yours Beldar ?
[19:24] <Hassen> most of linux-live-cd maker softwares contain echo amenu where there a persistence option(here: http://s27.postimg.org/dxzebuiwj/Capture.png ) how much memry should i choose?
[19:25] <ilikegnome> my dl is 70mbps :)
[19:25] <Hassen> *contain a menu where there is a*
[19:25] <dannymichel> i wasnt aware this was a contest ilikegnome
[19:25] <Beldar> dannymichel, that is way faster mine is 7mbps, with downloads limited to 700kns
[19:25] <Beldar> kbs
[19:25] <dannymichel> gotcha
[19:25] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: yes, a quadro fx 3700
[19:26] <ilikegnome> it wasn't i was just trolling
[19:26] <dannymichel> gotcha
[19:26] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: what I mean is, i'm not even sure that the xorg.conf at /etc/X11/ is the only conf file being used by unity.
[19:26] <dannymichel> cool cool
[19:26] <Beldar> dannymichel, even if I had that speed I would still not upgrade.
[19:26] <Hassen> join #linux
[19:26] <ilikegnome> xeberdee try using nvidia-settings, also which drivers are you using?
[19:27] <Beldar> Hassen, /join
[19:27] <Hassen> bedahr, yeah missed it,but    most of linux-live-cd maker softwares contain a menu where there is a persistence option(here: http://s27.postimg.org/dxzebuiwj/Capture.png ) how much memory should i choose?
[19:27] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: drivers is nvidia_current, what is nvidia-settings?
[19:27] <dannymichel> i only have 2 USB drives and one has OS X on it and the other has Windows 8.1 on it. no blank DVDs. i do however have a 12.04 CD so i used that to install Ubuntu so im upgrading Beldar
[19:28] <ilikegnome> xeberdee, the configuration utility for nvidia-cards, sort of like nvidia control panel on windows, run it as root, change your settings so they suit you, and save the settings to your X config file
[19:28] <dannymichel> http://i.imgur.com/eXTb5pU.png Beldar
[19:28] <Beldar> Hassen, persistence is a usb load option genrally limited ti 4 gigs in apps, however you can have a casper-rw partition and have much more, your choice in the end on size.
[19:29] <dsfldsfldsfdsf> exit
[19:29] <Beldar> dannymichel, I would not upgrade without cloning the original is all.
[19:29] <glitsj16> ilikegnome: why run nvidia-settings as root?
[19:29] <Hassen> Beldar, who much should i choose if i want to install ubuntu?
[19:30] <dannymichel> i have back-in-time backups Beldar
[19:30] <ilikegnome> glitsj16, your settings won't get saved if not running as root
[19:30] <Beldar> Hassen, You don;t need persistent to install.
[19:30] <Hassen> 0 then?
[19:30] <Beldar> dannymichel, Does that backup root?
[19:31] <glitsj16> ilikegnome: never had to do that as root .. ymmv
[19:31] <dannymichel> yes Beldar
[19:31] <ilikegnome> hmmm glitsj16 it's what worked for me
[19:32] <ilikegnome> funny thing is i'm having graphics issues atm
[19:32] <glitsj16> ilikegnome: not criticizing .. just noticed that i never had to, what made me curious :)
[19:32] <ilikegnome> oh i didn
[19:32] <sarahS> whats the proper way to deal with /boot is using 99.1% of 228MB?
[19:32] <Beldar> dannymichel, Ah, I clone just to avaoid reinstalling the os and stuff, but all mine are fairly small, and the media....etc is on externals and I have a SSD HD so about 5 min for reloads.
[19:32] <ilikegnome> oh i didnt think you were lol
[19:33] <sarahS> I've been reading online and feel like I'm getting inconsistent info
[19:33] <glitsj16> ilikegnome: perhaps i'm mixing up nvidia-settings ability to save it's preferences to your ~ and generating an xorg.conf
[19:33] <Beldar> sarahS, Boot partitions are not needed, remove the extra kernels.
[19:33] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: no idea what to do. I'm installing window instead.
[19:34] <zykotick9> sarahS: your /boot is to small... best of luck.  do you actually have a need for /boot?
[19:34] <sarahS> can i remove EVERYTHING in /boot?
[19:34] <ilikegnome> glitdj16 perhaps, xeberdee good luck
[19:34] <sarahS> zykotick9: Idk.  I've inherited this server and this problem
[19:34] <xeberdee> windows is cheaper that unbuntu :)
[19:34] <dannymichel> gotch gotcha Beldar . backintime-gnome is pretty good. actual files
[19:35] <ilikegnome> how is windows cheaper xeberdee, ubuntu is free
[19:35] <sarahS> how do i know if I really need /boot?
[19:35] <xeberdee> ilikegnome: time is money
[19:35] <MajSlayer7777> umm noob question, I have like 5 servers I need to startup for my webpage to fully work, (a ircd, ircd services, red5, and a flashpolicyd) currenlty I have to type all the commands in via SSH if anything crashes(mainly it's Red5, it's known ti fail..) what's the best option for me to use to start all these programs at once on boot? one requires root access because it starts on a port below 1024.(if that helps)
[19:35] <sarahS> I'm scared to remove it or anything in it in case I can't get it back up
[19:35] <Beldar> xeberdee, Don't let the door hit you on the way out, it can be expensive.
[19:35] <ThisManAdam> Howdy all
[19:36] <ilikegnome> xeberdee oh yeah i get it... i'm running dual-boot with Win8, it has it's quirks but windows is by far easier to set up
[19:36] <xeberdee> Beldar: what you talking about? I've been nicely trying to get help fopr about 6 hour now.
[19:36] <ilikegnome> +quit
[19:36] <xeberdee> Beldar: provided every bit of info asked for, and all I'm trying to do is GET INTO UNITY :)
[19:37] <MajSlayer7777> windows has some great software, but as far as servers, linux everytime
[19:37] <zykotick9> sarahS: DON'T remove it! and DON'T delete what's in there!  doing either would probably prevent you from starting the machine.
[19:37] <MajSlayer7777> do my video-editing on windows, 3ds max, that kinda stuff..
[19:37] <MajSlayer7777> everything else, linux ftw
[19:38] <sarahS> zykotick9: that's what i was thinking…
[19:38] <ThisManAdam> Anyone want to help a semi linux newbie?
[19:38] <dannymichel> i only use os x when i need Indesign and illustrator. Windows for GW2 and ESO
[19:38] <dannymichel> Boontoo for everything else
[19:38] <zykotick9> !ask | ThisManAdam
[19:38] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: same here, but I'm tired of having to beg for info here or in some forum.
[19:39] <ThisManAdam> @ubottu Gotcha, ty
[19:39] <MajSlayer7777> xeberdee google is often a good resource
[19:39] <ThisManAdam> !patience
[19:39] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: it would be if I could see it - i'm in terminal
[19:39] <dannymichel> Did someone really just say 'google it'?
[19:39] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: elinks sucks :
[19:39] <dannymichel> didnt know people still did that
[19:39] <MajSlayer7777> I'm a freshly myself, and with open source software, often documentation is way out of date.
[19:40] <MajSlayer7777> I feel ya, I'm working with a dedicated server, thru SSH
[19:40] <dougl> is there a way to configure plymouth to use a different shutdown animation than the start up animation?
[19:40] <xeberdee> dannymichel: I thought the point of forum was if you can't find the info anywhere else
[19:40] <zykotick9> ThisManAdam: (2 sidenotes) A - ubottu is a (ro)BOT, ie not real person and B - you don't need to use @ in irc, this isn't twitter ;)
[19:40] <dannymichel> i hear you xeberdee
[19:41] <dannymichel> some people have superiority complexes xeberdee
[19:41] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: I have no problem with terminal type stuff, except when I have to do conf of non terminal thingsss like desktop environment thru it.
[19:41] <ThisManAdam> zykotick9 Thanks
[19:42] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: now that sucks
[19:42] <MajSlayer7777> yep i hear ya
[19:42] <Beldar> superiority complexes Is a pseudo social construct, not in the dsm
[19:42] <zykotick9> ThisManAdam: one further sidenote, you can use TAB to autocomplete nicknames (or should be able to)
[19:42] <MajSlayer7777> well it's not really the world best desktop.. imo
[19:42] <ThisManAdam> zykotick9: Gotcha.
[19:42] <MajSlayer7777> Windows wins hands down for a desktop, for sure
[19:43] <dannymichel> im aware Beldar
[19:43] <MajSlayer7777> they both have value
[19:43] <xeberdee> MajSlayer7777: Deskatop i for my kids who play minecraft :)
[19:43] <Hassen> wow...most of the linux live-cd makers get this error: "syslinu4.exe has stopped working" then exit the procedure of making live cd
[19:43] <Hassen> doh
[19:43] <dannymichel> i dont believe so. i dont think windows wins for desktop
[19:44] <Beldar> !md5sum | Hassen
[19:44] <dannymichel> Ubuntu is a contender
[19:44] <MajSlayer7777> well i like a little DCS : Black shark 2 everynow and then
[19:44] <dannymichel> If gaming is your bag
[19:44] <Togusa> dannymichel: not if you want to use multi-monitor =)
[19:44] <Togusa> i'm still having issues
[19:45] <MajSlayer7777> or video-editing, or 3d graphics, windows has allot of great software packages that linux doesn't
[19:45] <dannymichel> i play a couple games every now and then. Windows is just a gaming box for me. I prefer Ubuntu for everything else
[19:45] <MajSlayer7777> blender is a toy vs Maya and Max
[19:45] <Togusa> MajSlayer7777: yes for video editing, but Maya, Houdini and Blender do work on linux
[19:45] <dannymichel> I do like Windows 8.1 though
[19:46] <MajSlayer7777> oh really? right from the Gnome desktop?
[19:46] <dannymichel> I also like OS X(for now). Apple is definitely going down-hill
[19:46] <MajSlayer7777> hmm i'll have to try and install max 2013 on it then
[19:46] <Beldar> Lets remember that this is support, some of topic ubuntu related is tolerated, however this is not chat #ubuntu-offtopic is.
[19:47] <Beldar> offtopic*
[19:47] <Togusa> i don't know if they support ubuntu officially
[19:47] <bonhoeffer> i think i have a bad disk -- how could i find out? screen was freezing up and we were getting a bad sector error?
[19:47] <ThisManAdam> Okay sooo, here's what's going on. I've got a Renesas usb3 host controller in this thinkpad T220t model 42963L5. Ubuntu 13.10 and 12.04 are not correctly recognizing it. It doesn't show up in lshw. Is there anything I can do? I have tried booting with 'apci=nomsi', that didn't help.
[19:47] <dannymichel> Steam is great on Ubuntu now-a-days
[19:47] <dannymichel> Ubuntu is doing  some great things with gaming
[19:47] <Beldar> bonhoeffer, The disks app has a smartcheck function
[19:47] <Togusa> it's Valve, not really Ubuntu
[19:47] <ilikegnome> haha I was thinking of making a hackintosh now enough for offtopic, I have enabled all three monitors but two of them are white and lacking functionality
[19:47] <Togusa> but yes
[19:47] <bonhoeffer> Beldar, disk utility?
[19:48] <xeberdee> oh yeah, this is support channel - sure
[19:48] <dannymichel> Keep in mind Linus still does hate nVidia for good reason though
[19:48] <Beldar> bonhoeffer, yes disks
[19:48] <xeberdee> dannymichel: ?
[19:48] <MajSlayer7777> aye off topic, so back to my question, i have a bunch of programs i need to start on a reboot, whats the best way to go about it? (ubuntu 13.10)
[19:48] <ilikegnome> dannymichel I am now sad... I didn't know linus hated nvidia
[19:48] <Togusa> dannymichel: i've disabled the nvidia gpu, and i'm using the IGP
[19:48] <jhutchins_wk> xeberdee: We're all just fellow users here, there's no guarantee somebody knows how to solve your problem.
[19:49] <Togusa> each time i startup ubuntu, everything is kind of messed up
[19:49] <bonhoeffer> An error occurred while performing an operation " " The device is busy
[19:49] <dannymichel> ilikegnome, i quad boot and have OS X installed on this custom PC(Mavericks) http://goo.gl/lemJA
[19:49] <bonhoeffer> do i need to log off and use another operating system?
[19:49] <dannymichel> hates nVidia with a passion ilikegnome
[19:49] <dannymichel> Same as how he hated Gnome 3 ilikegnome
[19:49] <dannymichel> Google that. its true ilikegnome
[19:50] <ilikegnome> you have quad-freaking boot... and now I'm going to weigh in on the next WAN show
[19:50] <xeberdee> jhutchins_wk: Sure I know that, I would have thought it was a simple matter, but not so apparently.
[19:50] <rtnptr> When using a jQuery Mobile non-ajax form submission to Django 1.4 the django.contrib.messages module does not contain the add_message function as it does when I making  web request from a non-jquery mobile page.  Does anyone know of a reason why a jquery mobile request wouldn't allow me to utilize django.contrib.messages.add_message while all non-jquery mobile requests do?
[19:50] <Beldar> bonhoeffer, "An error occurred while performing an operation " " The device is busy" lacks any real detail.
[19:51] <ilikegnome> dannymichel I'm using gnome also
[19:51] <dannymichel> youre on Ubuntu using gnome 3 ilikegnome ?
[19:52] <ilikegnome> don't know which gnome version using gnome-fallback
[19:52] <bonhoeffer> Beldar, agreed, but I'm unable to scan because of that error
[19:52] <bonhoeffer> can i scan the drive that is running ubuntu?
[19:52] <xeberdee> bonhoeffer: your errors are not detailed enough :) you need better ones.
[19:52] <bonhoeffer> details are: Device is mounted and no online capability in fsck tool for file system
[19:53] <bonhoeffer> this is for all my mounted drives
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> bonhoeffer: You can _check_ a disk with fsck while it's mounted, but you can't fix it.
[19:56] <jhutchins_wk> bonhoeffer: So un-mount the drive first.
[19:56] <xeberdee> Anyone know of a decent terminal browser? also how to get better res in terminal?
[19:57] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:58] <jhutchins_wk> bonhoeffer: If the drive in question is a system drive then you reboot with the -F flag and it will check them at start-up before they're mounted rw.
[19:58] <ironfoot495> Hello is there a good ripper thats good with dvd players?
[19:59] <xeberdee> Using nvidia_current, any reason why unity won't start? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6495644/
[20:00] <cristian_c> I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[20:00] <Sh1G3rU> !zoidberg
[20:01] <cristian_c> But if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes
[20:02] <_root_> is this right for ubuntu 12.04? post-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 91.121.247.148 netmask 255.255.255.255 broadcast 91.121.247.148 post-down /sbin/ifconfig eth0:0 down
[20:02] <herofire2020> hiiii
[20:02] <xeberdee> _root_: mask
[20:03] <xeberdee> _root_: all of it
[20:03] <xeberdee> funny
[20:03] <_root_> xeberdee: mask? what do you mean
[20:03] <LayAnotherBlock> I have a very important OS Creation Question:
[20:04] <cristian_c> I installed the libqt4-core package but it had no effect. Same result installing qt4 qtconfig again. It seems to be an issue related to fonts: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564548 but I did not understand the meaning of the last message in that report
[20:05] <LayAnotherBlock> Can i base my OS off of Kubuntu? I won't use it's code. Just the apps like LibreOffice and that stuff
[20:05] <xeberdee> _root_: ok - if ur' serious. IP is not legal, is reserved. U need local range like 192.168 or 172.16
[20:06] <cristian_c> I tried to make a change in the settings either with the guest user or creating a new user. Unfortunately, the problem also occurs in these cases. Any idea?
[20:06] <xeberdee> _root_: and mask shout be 255.255.255.0 or 255.255.0.0 for 172 network
[20:07] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, libreoffice is in most canonical except lubuntu I believe
[20:07] <LayAnotherBlock> can anyone answer me?
[20:07] <LayAnotherBlock> wait nvm
[20:07] <Beldar> !patience | LayAnotherBlock
[20:08] <LayAnotherBlock> ok
[20:08] <fanboy1> hello
[20:08] <xeberdee> bye all - thanks for all the help.
[20:08] <_root_> xeberdee: the ip is the OVH handy work; i just got them in email after payment. i didn't create them
[20:09] <cristian_c> *ideas
[20:09] <xeberdee> _root_: If you want to config eth0 - just use DHCP
[20:09] <LayAnotherBlock> Beldar: So what you are saying is i can base my OS off of Kubuntu?
[20:10] <Beldar> cristian_c, I just came on have you detailed this.
[20:10] <xeberdee> or choose a class networkj for local areas
[20:10] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, What you asking is kind of confusing, kubuntu is a desktop, the rest is the ubuntu base.
[20:10] <Beldar> your*
[20:11] <cristian_c> Beldar, I don't understand
[20:11] <LayAnotherBlock> Ok. Refraise. Can i base my OS off of Ubuntu? I thought Kubuntu was a full OS lol
[20:11] <cristian_c> :O
[20:11] <Beldar> !details | cristian_c
[20:12] <Megabyte> Hi
[20:12] <Megabyte> Does anyone here use Writer?
[20:12] <Beldar> cristian_c, changes mean nothing.
[20:12] <fanboy1> need some help in terminal, I entered the command "mkdir -p /ffp/opt/java" then "cd /ffp/opt/java" and got this " root@121-Media:/ffp/opt/java#" my problem is I use filezilla to ftp into the box where i issue these commands but can't find that directory what did i do wrong?
[20:12] <cristian_c> Beldar, I've given all the details
[20:12] <cristian_c> -,-
[20:13] <Beldar> cristian_c, And that was my question you did not understand.
[20:13] <LayAnotherBlock> Megabyte: LibreOffice Writer? Yes... I do
[20:13] <Megabyte> LayAnotherBlock, Do you know how to paste the full changes of a document, not just the modified version? (When it is tracked)
 I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[20:14] <rosco_y> does it work to install ms office in wine?
[20:14] <ikonia> rosco_y: it is unwise to depend on wine as a solution
[20:14] <LayAnotherBlock> I dunno that. I started using Ubuntu and LibreOffice litterally 2 days ago
[20:14] <cristian_c> Beldar, I don't understand what details I've not given yet
[20:14] <Beldar> cristian_c, And I ststed I just came on look at the channel info, just making sure you have, when you reference any question keep the details included, people come on and miss stuff.
[20:15] <Beldar> stated*
[20:15] <ObrienDave> rosco_y, LibreOffice is the free version of MS Office, it reads and writes Office files
[20:15] <rosco_y> ikonia: LayAnotherBlock, ty -- I actually really like LibreOffice as well, but I'm looking at developing some excel spreadsheets for a potential client, and so I was wondering.....
[20:15] <Megabyte> ObrienDave, It is not the "free" version of MS Office. Microsoft doesn't develop it.
[20:16] <sp4d3s> stats k
[20:16] <Megabyte> ObrienDave, Plus, LibreOffice (and Apache OpenOffice) both lack open type features
[20:16] <cristian_c> Beldar, what should I do, then?
[20:17] <ObrienDave> ok, yes, that's correct. It is not developed by MS *^^*
[20:17] <rosco_y> My wife uses Windows, and has Office, so I thought I might try it out, but I also thought I might ask first to see if anyone had an success doing thi
[20:17] <rosco_y> this
[20:17] <ikonia> rosco_y: best advice is to use a windows host to run it
[20:17] <LayAnotherBlock> Rosco_Y: To work on Excel Spreadsheats, Use LibreOffice Calc. I know people confuse it with a calculator, but it's a spreadsheat app
[20:17] <ObrienDave> rosco_y, I use Calc all of the time. works great
[20:18] <rosco_y> ikonia: y, I've done that too, setup a virtualbox and etc.
[20:19] <ObrienDave> rosco_y, try it, you'll like it
[20:19] <Sh1G3rU> i use gnumeric and i am a happy user
[20:19] <rosco_y> LayAnotherBlock: ty, I do wonder if I might be able to create the needed spreadsheets in LibreOffice and save them as excel worksheets, but it doesn't feel as clean as doing it natively
[20:20] <rosco_y> OK, Thank you everyone--your help has been huge!
[20:20] <ObrienDave> rosco_y, I save all of my spreadsheets as both ODS and XLS files. no problems so far
[20:21] <ObrienDave> rosco_y, and yes, it saves .xlsx files as well
[20:21] <LayAnotherBlock> Just so you know guys, i'm a kid who knows way more about PC's and stuff than ur average IT guy. So if you need any help, ask me.
[20:22] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, The channel is for help if you have a fix, not asking to be asked.
[20:22] <thepreacher> how can i swap right ctrl and right windows keys without using xmodmap?
[20:23] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- my windows went dim and i lost terminal due to an input/output error -- where could i see a log of this?
[20:23] <LayAnotherBlock> thepreacher: Why exactly would you want to do that?
[20:23] <ikonia> LayAnotherBlock: great, I'm having a problem with my linker, I'm building statically against my local libraries, but want a dynamic target for the finished prodect, pkgconfig also has the .pc config files in the wrong location for the target, any suggestions ?
[20:24] <Beldar> ikonia, hehe
[20:24] <ObrienDave> drop back 5 yards and punt??? ;P
[20:24] <thepreacher> LayAnotherBlock: just got this cheap new keyboard which I use for emacs, but I'm finding the distance to the right ctrl a bit too far
[20:25] <LayAnotherBlock> Ikonia: Sorry. I cannot help you in that way.
[20:25] <ikonia> LayAnotherBlock: oh, ok, however how to work out the correct block size and partition alignment for a raid array made out of 6 3TB disks,
[20:26] <LayAnotherBlock> thepreacher: I have no idea how to switch keys.
[20:26] <ikonia> LayAnotherBlock: (7 disks actually but one is a spare so won't be inlcuded in the stripe)
[20:26] <zykotick9> ikonia: ;)
[20:26] <Beldar> bazinga
[20:27] <herofire2020> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[20:27]  * ObrienDave kicks back and enjoys the show
[20:27] <bonhoeffer> dmesg or something right?
[20:27] <LayAnotherBlock> ikonia: I cannot do that stuff. I've never worked with that kind of stuff.
[20:28] <ikonia> LayAnotherBlock: ooh, so not quite "way more than the average IT guy then"
[20:28] <LayAnotherBlock> Well i mean in the form of using an OS. Not actually modifying or fixing hardware by opening up the PC.
[20:29] <ikonia> LayAnotherBlock: that is using the OS, using the linker is using the OS, partitioning disks and putting a file system on is using the OS
[20:29] <geoffmcc> LayAnotherBlock: i think you might wanna sit the next few plays out
[20:30] <Sh1G3rU> can i use the OS too please, pretty please?
[20:30] <LayAnotherBlock> Sit the next few plays out... what do you mean by that?
[20:30] <Sh1G3rU> !offtopic
[20:30] <ObrienDave> LayAnotherBlock, they're trying to tell you, in a nice way, that most of us have FORGOTTEN more about computers than you probably know
[20:31] <ikonia> it's my fault, my apologies, I shouldn't have pulled at the thread, bad example to set
[20:31] <Beldar> nicely punked
[20:31] <Sh1G3rU> ikonia, never apologise you are my hero
[20:32] <ikonia> I certainly wouldn't go that far, and pulling at a thread like that isn't what the channels about, so my apologies
[20:32] <bcbc2> ObrienDave: in a nice way? Making fun of someone isn't very nice. Must be a slow day
[20:32] <ikonia> bcbc2: agreed, it was my poor form
[20:32] <Beldar> ikonia, You left out my favorite of yours "it's not rocket science"
[20:32] <ObrienDave> bcbc2, i was trying to be nice also ;))
[20:32] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . what is the best way to see what just happened with my system? dmesg?
[20:33] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: what do you mean "what just happened" in what respect
[20:36] <meltingwax> hello friends
[20:36] <meltingwax>  /exec -o yes dicks
[20:38] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, i've been having a random error -- the screen goes dim for a long time, then i get a long string of errors in terminal, then the terminal crashes
[20:38] <dougl> does anyone know of a working ppa repository for skype that will work on 13.10?
[20:38] <bonhoeffer> i'm looking to get better information . . .
[20:38] <ikonia> dougl: the package from the official site should work
[20:39] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I'd be checking the syslog initially
[20:39] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I'd aslo be looking at the xorg log
[20:39] <genii> dougl: The partner repositories
[20:39] <bonhoeffer> got it -- thanks
[20:39] <ikonia> (I'm assuming you've got X11 running)
[20:39] <BluesKaj> dougl. not sure about a ppa , but the static version of skype used to work well on Linux , dunno if it's still available tho
[20:39] <Beldar> bonhoeffer, Did you find the disks app to check the smart info, you can use a live environment, and maybe check the memory from the live, and the os.
[20:39] <genii> !partner | dougl
[20:40] <DartmanX> I just installed tomcat7 and tomcat7-admin and added the users in tomcat-users.xml as instructed, but am unable to login to the manager. I've restarted tomcat7 and even restart the VPS, no luck. Does anyone know anything I can try next?
[20:41] <millerti_> I just upgraded to the latest Ubuntu, and now X11 comes up and is only black.  Any suggestions?
[20:41] <millerti_> I keep getting an error message about something crashing and the option to report it.  No window manager.
[20:41] <Beldar> millerti_, nvidia card per chance?
[20:41] <dougl> thanks guys
[20:41] <bonhoeffer> Beldar, will do
[20:41] <Beldar> millerti_, upgraded from what to what?
[20:42] <millerti_> Beldar: Actually, this is in Parallels.
[20:42] <millerti_> I think I'm upgraded to 13.10
[20:42] <bonhoeffer> but i can't even open termial now -- i get "read only file system"
[20:42] <millerti_> I removed the Parallels tools (so it would fall back to SVGA, I think), but all that did was make the keyboard start working again.
[20:42] <Beldar> millerti_, you might try a text boot to see errors, and a nomodeset boot
[20:42] <millerti_> Text boot works well too.  I can switch to a text console.
[20:43] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok, that's probably because of the crash, if you reboot it will do an fsck probably and bring it back to normal
[20:43] <maxploy> hello
[20:43] <bonhoeffer> ikonia, i'm pretty sure i'm having the same problem after a reboot
[20:43] <bonhoeffer> i guess i could go out of the gui and try to see the logs
[20:45] <legoeater4> I have a question abount ubuntu
[20:45] <millerti_> I just LOVE how fragile X11 is.
[20:46] <ikonia> X11 isn't fragile
[20:46] <maxploy> just a little stupid question: why i cant see directorys i created with putty on winscp? i also cant see directorys i created with winscp on putty? i really dont know whats going wrong there, did anybody knows this problem? would be great :I
[20:46] <ikonia> if anything it's blandly robust
[20:47] <legoeater4> if i put ubuntu on my laptop will it still have wireless functionality?
[20:47] <ikonia> maxploy: could you expand a little more on that please
[20:47] <ikonia> legoeater4: if your wireless card is supported
[20:47] <millerti_> Ok.  Here's a question:  How can I reinstall the kernel in 13.10?
[20:47] <legoeater4> Could you tell me if i yold you pc model?
[20:48] <ikonia> millerti_: open the package manager and mark a package for re-install
[20:48] <ikonia> millerti_: although I'm not sure why you would want to do that
[20:48] <savr> useradd -a -G tomcat7 www-data
[20:48] <savr> useradd: invalid option -- 'a'
[20:48] <millerti_> ikonia: I cannot open the package manager.
[20:48] <ikonia> savr: it's not a valid option
[20:48] <millerti_> I cannot get X11 to work.
[20:48] <millerti_> So I need to use apt-get.
[20:48] <savr> why is the -a option invalid on ubuntu?
[20:48] <ikonia> millerti_: there are command line versions,
[20:48] <ikonia> such as aprt get
[20:48] <savr> and what replaces it?
[20:48] <ikonia> savr: it's an invalid option on any distro
[20:48] <ikonia> savr: what are you trying to do
[20:49] <savr> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-add-user-to-group/
[20:49] <savr> I'm trying to add an existing user to a group
[20:49] <legoeater4> if i put ubuntu on my acer aspire 4250 will it have wifi still? (when i installed debian it did not)
[20:49] <ikonia> savr: READ the text
[20:49] <ikonia> savr: usermod -a not useradd -a
[20:49] <Hassen> omg....
[20:49] <geoffmcc> savr: usermod not useradd
[20:50] <ikonia> legoeater4: if your wireless card is supported
[20:50] <savr> rotfl
[20:50] <savr> ok thanks
[20:50] <maxploy> ikonia: i just created a folder in my home directory with winscp. its called: /test/ - then i check it on putty and i cant see this folder. the same on the other direction. i can create also on putty the folder /test" and put a file inside but i dont see the folder or the file on winscp. its the same server, the same folder. i really dont know what i doing wrong there
[20:50] <legoeater4> How do i check if it is supported
[20:50] <geoffmcc> savr: assuming your trying to add an existing user to an existing group
[20:50] <bonhoeffer> back -- now without kids . . . real trouble -- i hit the ctl+alt+f1 and can't get back to x windows
[20:50] <ikonia> maxploy: ok - so I suspect the difference you are saying is your real home directory and the ftp root home directory (possibly)
[20:50] <Sh1G3rU> maxploy,  have you logged in the same user or even the same machine?
[20:50] <Hassen> can't make any sort of linux live cd downloaded ubuntu 3 times,same errors,and fedora 16 is screwed a well..
[20:50] <bonhoeffer> just trying to figure out if i have a software or hardware issue
[20:50] <bekks> bonhoeffer: then hit ctrl alt f7
[20:51] <Hassen> i wonder what the hech is going on with this laptop
[20:51] <bonhoeffer> bekks: no love there
[20:51] <maxploy> its the same user, the same mashine, its absoluteley the same place where i create the folder
[20:51] <Hassen> *heck*
[20:51] <bonhoeffer> no responsiveness -- pretty sure this is the same problem
[20:51] <maxploy> home directory and the ftp root home directory, this could be the answer!
[20:51] <ikonia> maxploy: it's an easy mistake to make, ftp will normally log you in relative to the ftp root directory
[20:52] <bonhoeffer> should i do a hard reboot?
[20:52] <maxploy> i can see the html folder on both programs, putty and winscp. when i create a file in html folder with  putty or winscp i can see the file in html folder with the other tool.
[20:53] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: first thing is to get your disk read/write again
[20:53] <bonhoeffer> ikonia: but i can't even get to a prompt
[20:53] <ikonia> maxploy: ok, lets do a little test
[20:53] <maxploy> k
[20:53] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: right, rebooting should force an fsck to fix it
[20:53] <ikonia> maxploy: login to the machine via putty - and do "touch bigtest"
[20:53] <ikonia> maxploy: first and only command
[20:54] <ikonia> maxploy: then log out
[20:54] <maxploy> okay, wait please
[20:54] <ikonia> maxploy: let me know when you are done
[20:54] <bonhoeffer> back in again
[20:55] <maxploy> ikinia: done
[20:56] <maxploy> ikonia: done :>
[20:56] <ikonia> maxploy: ok, now login via ftp, I assume you don't see "bigtest" file
[20:56] <hafdh> hi
[20:57] <bonhoeffer_> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/7711901
[20:57] <bonhoeffer> does that syslog tell anyone anything?
[20:57] <maxploy> ikonia: no bigtest file there win sftp connection
[20:57] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: hfs ??
[20:57] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: nothing critical in that log
[20:58] <ikonia> maxploy: ok, now in sftp upload a file, one with an obvious name if possible
[20:59] <maxploy> ikonia: done - now check with putty again?
[20:59] <ikonia> maxploy: not quite
[20:59] <ikonia> maxploy: what was the name of the file you uploaded (the file name EXACTLY as it is)
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> ikonia: hmm . . . and the filesystem is not read only -- i can touch a file in the root directory
[20:59] <maxploy> FILE.jpg
[20:59] <bonhoeffer> any other way to see the last errors -- what other log should i check?
[21:00] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: why are you using hfs ?
[21:00] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: that's a bad file system to run linux on
[21:00] <bonhoeffer> hmm. am i running linux on that?
[21:00] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I do'nt know - are you ?
[21:00] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: that log suggests you've got a hfs file system
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> no -- partition type is 0x83
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> ext4
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> i think that is an external drive
[21:01] <ice9> how to perform filesystem check for encrypted USB hard drive?
[21:01] <ikonia> partition type has nothing to do with it
[21:01] <ikonia> file system is key
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> sorry -- i got you
[21:01] <bonhoeffer> ext4
[21:02] <bonhoeffer> yeah -- i have a 1 tb external drive that is hfs+
[21:02] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok - unplug the hfs disk (if it's external) and reboot, see if that warning goes away
[21:02] <maxploy> ikonia: the filename is FILE.jpg
[21:02] <maxploy> ikonia: but just help bonhoeffer first, i have time :)
[21:02] <MartynKeigher> hey all. im stting up FTP using vsftpd and so far its working, and the guest user is limited to its folder. so that good. trouble now is i cant WRITE Data to the folder and file transfer wont work. what am i missing? thank you
[21:02] <ikonia> maxploy: ok, login to your ubuntu machine via putty and run this command "sudo find / -name FILE.jpg -print 2>/dev/null"
[21:02] <ikonia> maxploy: it will take a while to return a result, so give it time
[21:03] <ikonia> MartynKeigher: probably just file system permissions
[21:03] <bonhoeffer> ikonia: will do . . .
[21:03] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: apologies, but just want to be sure and make sure you're starting from a "good" point
[21:03] <bonhoeffer> only ext4 now -- but how can i see the error -- i don't think it was the hfs+ error that caused the crash
[21:03] <bonhoeffer> or terminal shutdown
[21:03] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: can I see your syslog now please
[21:04] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: what error can you see ?
[21:04] <maxploy> ikonia: there we have the problem i i will recieve a little shirtstorm now, centos runs on this server, no ubuntu. :/ i just remember the good old ubuntu chat because i use it on my laptop.
[21:04] <ikonia> maxploy: ok, then take it to #centos
[21:04] <bonhoeffer> http://gist.github.com/7711985
[21:04] <MartynKeigher> ok, i created my 'guest' user account using the following command: useradd -d /srv/ftp guest
[21:04] <MartynKeigher> so how can i give owenership of that fodler to guest?
[21:05] <MartynKeigher> chown guest /srv/ftp  ???
[21:05] <MartynKeigher> OR    chown guest /srv/ftp/  ???
[21:05] <bonhoeffer> how big of a deal is this: Nov 29 16:00:54 oxford kernel: [  388.072297] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy:
[21:05] <geirha> MartynKeigher: yes, or  chown guest: /srv/ftp  to also set group ownership
[21:06] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: nothing really
[21:06] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: may explain the dimming screen, but certainly not the crash
[21:06] <MartynKeigher> ok great. i actually created a GUESTS group (prob dont need it though) so i can just assing the user correct?
[21:06] <bonhoeffer> hmm .. .
[21:06] <bonhoeffer> so there is there another log i need to be checking?
[21:07] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: do you know what a kernel panic is ?
[21:07] <geirha> MartynKeigher: it probably made it the primary group already. run   id guest
[21:07] <bonhoeffer> ikonia: i've seen it before
[21:07] <MartynKeigher> ah ok
[21:07] <MartynKeigher> got it
[21:08] <bonhoeffer> but i'm not wise on the ways of the kernel
[21:08] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: when you see the "text in the terminal" does that look like a kernal panic in your opinion
[21:08] <MartynKeigher> thanks. should be good from here (?)
[21:08] <MartynKeigher> we'll see. lol
[21:08] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: (if you've seen one before)
[21:08] <bonhoeffer> no
[21:08] <bonhoeffer> why?
[21:08] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: thats fie, just checking
[21:08] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: how often does this problem happen ?
[21:08] <bonhoeffer> i'm generally a bash/zsch user
[21:08] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: what does your shell have to do with it ?
[21:09] <bonhoeffer> every use -- but hasn't happened without the hfs drive
[21:09] <bonhoeffer> ikonia: it seemed like you were asking if i was afraid of the shell (a noob)
[21:09] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok, run it without the hfs drive for a while, see what happens
[21:09] <bonhoeffer> not that i'm not a ubunu noob
[21:09] <bonhoeffer> will do
[21:09] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: I'd say the hfs disk is not "the" problem, but it will be interesting to see
[21:10] <MartynKeigher> k so i ran that, chown guest: /srv/ftp and now i get this error on conection: Response:	500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[21:11] <bonhoeffer_> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/d326372b4f18b12caa19
[21:11] <bonhoeffer> new error
[21:11] <bonhoeffer> i've never gotten this one before
[21:11] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: have you just tried to install a package ?
[21:11] <dondopa> I wish I had autism so that I can be a successful system administrator
[21:11] <bonhoeffer> gnome update manager start
[21:12] <dondopa> for linux machines
[21:12] <ikonia> dondopa: stop it, there is no need for that silly sort of comment
[21:12] <dondopa> ok
[21:12] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: can you please open a terminal and do "sudo apt-get update"
[21:12] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: lets see what that does
[21:12] <bonhoeffer> or sudo apt-get update -- now i got the big problem again
[21:12] <bonhoeffer> an "internal error"
[21:12] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok, pastebin it, lets have a look
[21:12] <bonhoeffer> how -- syslog?
[21:12] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ooh the big problem
[21:12] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: sorry, I missunderstood
[21:13] <bonhoeffer> gist 7712070
[21:13] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: so basically your machine has crashed
[21:13] <bonhoeffer> well, not so much -- it will (historically speaking) but i still have terminal access now
[21:13] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: you're on a terminal and can type now ?
[21:13] <bonhoeffer> yes
[21:13] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok, "sudo apt-get update" again, what happens
[21:14] <bonhoeffer> but i can't hit submit to send ubuntu the problem
[21:14] <bonhoeffer> trying
[21:14] <Bor0> hi. I am trying to install Windows 7 but I already have installed Ubuntu. so what I have is 4 partitions on /dev/sda (1 TB, MBR), and one partition is unallocated with 150 GB of size. so I install Windows 7 on the unallocated one and installation passes successfully, however after installation reboots Windows is not on the GRUB list
[21:14] <Bor0> now I tried to add it manually and copy the EFI files, but then some other error messages appear. anyone had a similar issue?
[21:14] <bonhoeffer_> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/d326372b4f18b12caa19
[21:15] <ikonia> bonhoeffer: ok dear that looks like you've got PPa's and external repos enabled
[21:16] <bonhoeffer_> http://postimg.org/image/7flaufl8j/
[21:16] <bonhoeffer> but clicking on "send error report" will lead to another error
[21:16] <ikonia> forget submitting the error
[21:17] <ikonia> 3rd party repos/ppa's not good, clean them up
[21:17] <ikonia> remote them from your sources.list
[21:17] <ikonia> (or the files from sources.list.d
[21:17] <bonhoeffer_> http://postimg.org/image/foggl4bu9/
[21:17] <bonhoeffer_> remove them ?? will do
[21:17] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | bonhoeffer
[21:18] <bonhoeffer_> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[21:18] <Beldar> some trust the ppa-purge some don't is all
[21:19] <ikonia> no point trying to install anything yet
[21:19] <ikonia> as your package managment is screwed
[21:19] <bonhoeffer_> ok
[21:19] <ikonia> remove the sources
[21:19] <Beldar> bonhoeffer_, On 12.04 I believe it is not in the repos.
[21:19] <bonhoeffer_> ikonia, do you know the location for that file
[21:19] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: /etc/sources.list or files in /etc/sources.list.d
[21:19] <Beldar> bonhoeffer_, following ikonia is your best bet though here.
[21:20] <resure1> Can anybody please tell me what are default 10-* files in /etc/fonts/conf.d? I removed all of them and don't know what should i restore from conf.avail
[21:20] <genii> bonhoeffer_: /etc/apt/sources.list is the main file, the ppa files are in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[21:20] <bonhoeffer_> there
[21:20] <ikonia> genii: ahh /etc/apt... thank you
[21:21] <genii> ikonia: :)
[21:21] <bonhoeffer_> yes, thanks
[21:21] <lostincake> hi, I'm trying to setup CUPS to print to a brother mfc7340
[21:21] <lostincake> I've followed instructions here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/BrotherPrinters/MFC7340
[21:22] <bonhoeffer_> ikonia, not sure which to remove
[21:22] <lostincake> but I can't login when I click on "Add Printer"
[21:22] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: what's there ?
[21:22] <lostincake> I've added my user to lpadmin and lp
[21:22] <bonhoeffer_> https://gist.github.com/tbbooher/7712178
[21:22] <bonhoeffer_> kill extras, etc?
[21:23] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: nothing bad there, look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[21:23] <jtypical> hi
[21:23] <bonhoeffer_> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7712195
[21:24] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: ok - this is bad
[21:24] <ikonia> kardan: that's quite a lot of PPA's
[21:24] <ikonia> oops
[21:24] <bonhoeffer_> ok ! the sublime text stuff
[21:24] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: that's quite a lot of PPA's
[21:24] <bonhoeffer_> ok
[21:24] <bonhoeffer_> move them all to a temp dir?
[21:25] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: here is what you need to do "sudo cp -Rp /etc/apt/sources.list.d /etc/apt/not_sources.list.d" and then "sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*"
[21:25] <bonhoeffer_> yeah
[21:25] <bonhoeffer_> got it -- trying update
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> done -- easy
[21:26] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: ok, so the update works now ?
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> and i have to run . . . but yes
[21:26] <lostincake> anyone have any ideas about CUPS?
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> still feel i don't know what was crashing things
[21:26] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: reboot, see if the problem is gone
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> got it
[21:26] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: I suspect a PPA was causing the problem
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> then enable ppas one by one
[21:26] <bonhoeffer_> ok
[21:26] <ikonia> bonhoeffer_: let it run for a few days "safe" first
[21:27] <sereal> close
[21:27] <ikonia> I suspect the heroku is the problem
[21:27] <Hassen> doh...all of the linux live-CD-maker softwares that i have tried have failed all,i have downloaded ubuntu 13.04 iso many times,but every time either the live-cd making process fails or it sounds unbootable later..what the heck?? i'm getting a bad feeling about the whole PC :o   i use win7
[21:28] <Hassen> even fedora ,the iso file that i have got a while ago is now failing as well
[21:28] <ikonia> Hassen: this isn't an ubuntu issue
[21:28] <Hassen> ikonia, lmfao
[21:29] <ikonia> what ?
[21:30] <SASDOE> anyone have any suggestions as to minimal securitu measures for server. open ports are ssh and a couple more
[21:30] <ikonia> SASDOE: you need to evaluate your setup for that, there is no "standard
[21:31] <SASDOE> ikonia: what do you mean by evaluate?
[21:31] <ikonia> SASDOE: look at what your system is doing/needs
[21:32] <peterbin> Hi how do I access he boot options in ubuntu 12.0 livecd?
[21:32] <peterbin> the*
[21:33] <peterbin> Hi how do I access the boot options in ubuntu 12.04 desktop livecd?
[21:33] <SASDOE> ikonia: so for a server up all year receiving little traffic, change default port to ssh, install fail2ban, and relax hopefully?
[21:34] <ikonia> SASDOE: that's not what I said, but knowing what your server is doing and blocking what it's not using, is a good move
[21:34] <genii> peterbin: Usually F6 key. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions for details.
[21:35] <peterbin> genii: that's what I thought but the desktop version only gives two options, try ubuntu and install or am I missing something?
[21:36] <genii> peterbin: Try the F6 anyways, even if you don't see it listed as an option on the screen
[21:37] <SASDOE> ikonia: ports are filtered at router level, only selected ones are open. with that and proper protection on open ports (fail2ban being protection for 22 for example)
[21:37] <SASDOE> I should be fine
[21:37] <ikonia> SASDOE: not a bad starting point at all
[21:37] <SASDOE> ikonia: Ok thanks.
[21:38] <peterbin> genii: ... but then if i can't see the menu how am I suppose to add the option I want? Not trolling but I did try f6 and nothing came up
[21:39] <genii> peterbin: As the url explains, get to the menu by pressing any key when you see the logo on the bottom
[21:40] <peterbin> genii:  ... ok, even if that's not working for me
[21:40] <coventry> How can I turn off these "system program problem" and "application has stopped unexpectedly" dialogs?  They generallyjust get in the way of me fixing the problem.
[21:41] <yeats> coventry: see here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport
[21:42] <coventry> Thanks, yeats
[21:43] <iFire> Is it a good idea to run a windows vm under ubuntu and then virtualize the gpu?
[21:43] <iFire> Any problems with that?
[21:45] <daftykins> iFire: what do you mean by 'virtualise the GPU' ?
[21:46] <iFire> daftykins: graphics card passthrough
[21:47] <iFire> basically I want to switch to linux, but still develop games for windows
[21:47] <iFire> uh 3d directx opengl 4 games
[21:48] <iFire> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56777/enabling-iommu-in-the-kernel-for-graphics-card-pass-through
[21:48] <daftykins> iFire: i'm sure using most VM software such as vmware/virtualbox you could pass through *some* graphical features, but the host OS needs the graphics hardware so you can't double allocate items i think
[21:48] <iFire> anyways I've read it's possible
[21:49] <daftykins> ah-har, for dual GPU setups
[21:49] <iFire> daftykins: well you know you can just disable the gpu for the ubuntu system...
[21:50] <darksand22> im having extreme dificulties installing ubuntu 12.04.3 on windows 8 and need a hand
[21:51] <iFire> darksand22: describe?
[21:51] <iFire> what's the place it's complaining?
[21:51] <daftykins> iFire: i think your question would be better off in a VM software channel
[21:52] <iFire> darksand22: I use http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to format an usb drive
[21:52] <iFire> with it and then I just restart and install ubuntu
[21:52] <dondopa> I have a question does anyone here tries to use Ampacheon a tablet?
[21:52] <darksand22> well i follow the instructions as follow s on the ubuntu webiste but then when it comes to making the partitions im nopt sure if im doing it right cuz i dont have the option to select primary or logical
[21:52] <dondopa> Ampache on a tablet?
[21:52] <awan1> nope, never use it
[21:53] <darksand22> im booting from dvd rw tho not usb
[21:53] <daftykins> !uefi | darksand22
[21:53] <daftykins> darksand22: are you booting in EFI mode? ^
[21:54] <stef1a> yo. how do you allow wifi to reconnect when it drops?
[21:54] <iFire> darksand22: you're system is proably efi
[21:54] <iFire> EFI formatted hard drives don't have that
[21:54] <iFire> GPT
[21:54] <iFire> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[21:55] <darksand22> it is i disabled  uefi and used legacy boot as the forum suggested im using try ubuntu right now but i get lost when i clock install from the desktop
[21:57] <iFire> darksand22: it's specific to the hard drive
[21:57] <daftykins> darksand22: Windows 8 will likely already be installed in EFI mode to a GPT disk, you won't be able to install legacy ubuntu beside it without changing BIOS settings every boot to switch OS
[21:57] <iFire> if you want the old format you need to wipe it
[21:58] <iFire> or some sort of weird rewriting
[22:07] <xkernel> after I removed lubuntu-desktop from Ubuntu, I'm unable to restore the unity greeter login again
[22:10] <tozen> xkernel: what do u mean?
[22:10] <tozen> xkernel: u cant login or what?
[22:10] <xkernel> tozen, I can login but the greeter is a mix of lubuntu and unity
[22:10] <xkernel> it's not the correct one
[22:11] <tozen> xkernel: sudo apt-get install-reinstall lightdm ??
[22:11] <Gnea> xkernel: if it works, how is it not 'correct'?
[22:11] <tozen> xkernel: sudo apt-get install -0reinstall lightdm ??
[22:12] <xkernel> that didn' work too
[22:12] <tozen> xkernel: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm ??
[22:12] <tozen> sorry
[22:12] <jhutchins> xkernel: You should be able to run either desktop.  Do you know which DM it's running?
[22:12] <jhutchins> tozen: Doesn't unity run gdm?
[22:12] <TmvC> http://www.pixtr.org/image/194.html lol
[22:12] <xkernel> jhutchins, it's lightdm,  I already removed lubuntu-desktop
[22:13] <tozen> xkernel: no
[22:13] <Gnea> jhutchins: unity is a desktop environment or window manager, it just handles what happens on the screen, it doesn't drive the login greeter
[22:13] <Gnea> xkernel: lightdm is correct
[22:14] <tozen> xkernel: also u can try to reinstall unity environment: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[22:14] <Gnea> tozen: aptitude reinstall ubuntu-desktop   should work too
[22:15] <tozen> Gnea: doesnt matter, pal :)
[22:16] <tozen> Gnea: i would prefer to use --reinstall function so TS had unity before
[22:16] <Gnea> tozen: why do you prefer apt-get's --reinstall over aptitude?
[22:16] <tozen> Gnea: more informative to me
[22:17] <Gnea> tozen: fair enough.
[22:17] <mdev> I keep keeping bad archive mirror when trying to install ubuntu
[22:17] <mdev> what's one that works
[22:17] <mdev> since us.archive.ubuntu.com isn;t
[22:17] <Gnea> !mirrors | mdev
[22:18] <daftykins> mdev: i sincerely doubt there's anything wrong with it. try just 'archive.ubuntu.com' to start with. otherwise, perhaps your system is unstable or you have bad storage causing corruption
[22:19] <mdev> ok i'll try it thanks
[22:22] <DeLorean719> How can I force ubuntu to start without X? I would just like it to be a command prompt on startup
[22:23] <jhutchins> DeLorean719: Permanently or just for a single instance?
[22:23] <tozen> DeLorean719: sudo apt-get remove lighrdm
[22:23] <DeLorean719> jhutchins: Permanently
[22:23] <tozen> DeLorean719: sudo apt-get remove lighdm
[22:23] <DeLorean719> tozen: Thank you sir
[22:23] <tozen> DeLorean719: sudo apt-get remove lightdm
[22:23] <tozen> this is correct
[22:23] <DeLorean719> (:
[22:23] <tozen> DeLorean719: no probs
[22:24] <jhutchins> DeLorean719: You can also use one of the initscripts management tools (update-rc.d) to turn lightdm off.
[22:24] <Gnea> daftykins: more than likely there's a dns issue on their end
[22:24] <daftykins> Gnea: roger that
[22:25] <mdev> installer won't let me edit the mirrow
[22:26] <mdev> I just have to select an existing
[22:26] <mdev> how I edit it?
[22:26] <Hassen> i can't install syslinux bootloader to make a usb ubuntu live-cd: "Error while installing syslinux bootloader! Installation aborted."
[22:26] <Hassen> i'm trying that in win7
[22:26] <Hassen> any help?
[22:26] <jhutchins> mdev: us.archive.ubuntu.com  works from here.
[22:26] <Hassen> i redownloaded the ubuntu iso many times
[22:26] <mdev> ok
[22:27] <bekks> Hassen: Did you check the md5 checksum?
[22:27] <tozen> Hassen: what soft do u use?
[22:28] <jhutchins> mdev: http://www.isup.me/us.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:28] <Hassen> tozen, yumi/universal usb installed/live-usb-instal
[22:28] <Hassen> same errors
[22:28] <jhutchins> !usb
[22:28] <Hassen> check md5 of the iso that i have with the one mentioned in site?
[22:29] <Hassen> dooooooh
[22:29] <tozen> Hassen: unetbootin is the best to me
[22:29] <Hassen> reading articles about that again?
[22:30] <Hassen> tozen, unfortunatemy it's not running,once i double-click it,nothing appears(unebootin)
[22:31] <tozen> Hassen: seems u got system issues
[22:31] <Hassen> tozen, yes,seems like there is a deeper problem
[22:39] <d0x> Is there a way to make the output of echo -e "a\nb\nc" commad separated? like a,b,c
[22:39] <ftlstrm> hello, i am using mid2013 macbook air. i've installed ubuntu and refit. later, i've deleted ubuntu partition but there are still grub options on refit menu. how can i clear them?
[22:39] <d0x> smth. like   echo -e "..." | s/\n/,/g
[22:39] <dacs_k31> ftlstrm: reinstalling osx
[22:40] <dacs_k31> ftlstrm: the efi has been changed by refit which may go without saying but I did the same thing with my 2008 mac and its still there as well... I just never got around to it
[22:42] <lunamystra> fuj
[22:45] <tozen> lunamystra: what??
[22:45] <Akinatopsia> really random question: anyone here have a fax machine?
[22:45] <xkernel> after I reinstalled lightdm, now when I logout I get blank screen, I can't get the unity-greeter
[22:46] <tozen> xkernel: simple delete .Xauthority file from ur home directory
[22:47] <dondopa> OK this one is big guys
[22:47] <ftlstrm> dacs_k31: hey i found the solution. i ve mounted efi partition /dev/disk0s0. there was two folders named APPLE and ubuntu. i've removed ubuntu folder. i think it'll work. i'll restart the system nwo
[22:47] <dondopa> Has anyone ever build a BIND DNS server?
[22:47] <dondopa> My father wants to create a DNS server for his ampache web service so that the tablets can access and play music
[22:48] <daftykins> dondopa: can they not just connect by IP?
[22:48] <dondopa> Is He wants to use fake Top Level Domain
[22:48] <dondopa> No
[22:48] <dondopa> theycannot
[22:48] <dondopa> like for eg. www.raidospatial.inc
[22:52] <dondopa> I want to make my laptop running Ubuntu 13.10 Server into a BIND local DNS server. Make the laptop resolve names and interact with the router so that the samsung galaxy tablets in ourhomecan access the apache web server sites using the client app called Ampache.net
[22:52] <Walex2> dondopa: it is very easy.
[22:53] <dondopa> This looks very complicated right now
[22:53] <dondopa> I dont even know how to explain it properly
[22:53] <xkernel> tozen, I deleted the .Xauthority file but still getting the blank screen
[22:53] <Walex2> dondopa: look for a simple HOWTO on running your own local 'root' DNS server.
[22:53] <daftykins> dondopa: it shouldn't require too much, just look up some BIND configuration guides. you ultimately want a DNS forwarder with a couple of static hosts configured i expect
[22:54] <jhutchins> dondopa: easy to do.
[22:55] <dondopa> I see them but they are for different distributions
[22:55] <HDLam_> hi! anyone got experience with getting java to work on chrome? I've currently installed the oracle JDK but I can't find the libnpjp2.so plugin that chrome needs to be able to run java
[22:55] <dondopa> like CentOS orGentoo
[22:55] <jhutchins> You can even use real domain names and have them resolve to a local address.  I used to do that to block ad sites.
[22:55] <stef1a> how do you allow wifi to reconnect when it drops?
[22:59] <dondopa> No he doesn't want to use real domain names. Using fake TLD is what he wants
[22:59] <dondopa> like  website.inc
[22:59] <dondopa> or website.loc
[22:59] <pfifo> im using rsync to copy some files from my server, I tried with and without -z over some test files, both transfers said 1.35Mbps Which I was expecting to see a difference there.
[22:59] <jhutchins> dondopa: You can do whatever you want with a DNS server.
[23:00] <jhutchins> dondopa: If that's what something uses for resolution, it'll believe it.
[23:00] <dondopa> Ok
[23:00] <arthurst> boua noite a todos
[23:00] <dondopa> The only issue is that I dont know how to make this thing ok
[23:00] <bekks> pfifo: Thats a wrong assumption. -z just compresses the file stream to be transferred, it does not magically increase bandwidth.
[23:00] <dondopa> Is it in the repository
[23:00] <arthurst> algun brasileiro?
[23:01] <SASDOE> i just bough a domain name, and would like it to point to my no-ip forward, it's a linux server but i doubt it happens at that level, what channel would I join if so?
[23:01] <jhutchins> dondopa: Yep.  I think the default install is a caching nameserver (resolves from an external server or the root hosts).
[23:01] <DarkAceLaptop> is there a nice dictionary program for ubuntu? one that I can put in a word and it gives me a definition, not a spellcheck type of program
[23:01] <jhutchins> !br
[23:01] <pfifo> bekks: I would think it would tell me the final throughput
[23:02] <DarkAceLaptop> one that I can download, I mean, so I can use it when I have no internet connection
[23:02] <dondopa> He said he doesnt want a caching nameserver
[23:02] <dondopa> just one that will resolve the names for the apache webservers so that we can access them using our tablets via using the Ampache.net app
[23:02] <dondopa> Are you familiar with ampache?
[23:02] <pfifo> DarkAceLaptop: I use google for that
[23:03] <DarkAceLaptop> yes, but I can not use Google when I have no internet connection
[23:04] <dondopa> It's a module installed into apache specifically for streaming music
[23:04] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: i think artha does just that
[23:04] <jhutchins> dondopa: There are some good howtos at tldp.org.
[23:04] <jhutchins> dondopa: I don't really know what your specific question is.
[23:05] <glitsj16> !find artha
[23:05] <mdev> does ubuntu archive mirrors all block you if you try so much
[23:05] <mdev> because I don't get why it won't connect
[23:05] <dondopa> jhutchins
[23:05] <glitsj16> !info artha
[23:05] <dondopa> I am trying to access my apache webserver using my tablet
[23:06] <dondopa> There is this thing called  Ampache which is a free software Web-based Audio file manager / web Media Server
[23:07] <dondopa> I have it installed and running with all my music
[23:07] <dondopa> I can accessit ok on my laptop
[23:07] <jhutchins> mdev: Which tool are you using?
[23:07] <dondopa> but not on my tablet
[23:07] <CoDEmanX> can i somehow redirect the screen output of "crontab -e", so that i can print what's on screen in my calling php script? or do i need root rights?
[23:07] <jhutchins> mdev: Can you ping the site?  Open it in a web browser.
[23:07] <stef1a> how do you allow wifi to reconnect when it drops?
[23:07] <dondopa> My father said we need to install BIND to resolve the names for the web servers
[23:08] <dondopa> so that the tablets can access them and play music from ampache
[23:08] <jhutchins> dondopa: That or put the server in the host file.
[23:08] <CoDEmanX> echo(shell_exec("crontab -e")); <-- no output at all
[23:08] <jhutchins> dondopa: Is your tablet getting DHCP from an ISP's router?
[23:08] <dondopa> yes
[23:09] <bonhoeffer> hmm . . . i was doing an update, came back to pc, no icons, prompt, anything -- any options?
[23:09] <jhutchins> dondopa: So it's not going to know about your DNS server or your local hosts.
[23:09] <mdev> jhutchins trying to install in a kvm
[23:09] <mdev> keep getting https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50354233/mirror.jpg
[23:09] <dondopa> So what do I do then?
[23:09] <mdev> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/50354233/mirror2.jpg
[23:09] <jhutchins> dondopa: So you need to either use the server's IP address for the URL or replace the DHCP on the router with one of your own.  Or hack the tablet to set the DNS manually.
[23:09] <mdev> for different versions tried different mirrors
[23:10] <dondopa> I cannot hack the tablet to set DNS manually. I wont run the risk of rooting so that one is out
[23:10] <dondopa> Nor do I know how to
[23:10] <dondopa> It's not my tablet either
[23:10] <dondopa> Samsung Galaxy tab 2
[23:11] <CoDEmanX> nothing either for echo(shell_exec("sudo cat /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root"));
[23:11] <pfifo> bekks: ohh, i was using -e ssh as well, i didnt realize i could turn off encryption, much better performance now
[23:11] <jhutchins> mdev: I would guess your network bridge isn't working.
[23:11] <bonhoeffer> if i hit clt+alt + f1 -- i get a blank screen
[23:11] <bonhoeffer> no prompt
[23:11] <dondopa> I tried the servers ip address for the URL
[23:11] <dondopa> it doesnt work
[23:11] <bonhoeffer> cot + alt + f7 doesn't bring back x
[23:12] <Stolas> q/
[23:12] <bonhoeffer> up for any option
[23:12] <bonhoeffer> other than hard power off
[23:12] <Stolas> exit
[23:13] <bonhoeffer> no, i don't have a prompt
[23:14] <DarkAceLaptop> thanks, glitsj16
[23:14] <smco> is there a way to identify a file system by the first few bytes on disk?
[23:14] <smco> ext4, FAT32, etc
[23:14] <DarkAceLaptop> I can't tell if it's what I want yet because my internet is so slow, but it sure sounds right
[23:15] <CoDEmanX> smco: depends on the filesystem i guess
[23:16] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: yw, been using it for years (as i'm not a native english speaker)
[23:17] <Ilmen> Hi; what is the kernel version of Ubuntu 13.10?
[23:17] <CoDEmanX> smco: http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs-partition-boot-sector.htm
[23:17] <bonhoeffer> how do i diagnose the last crash?
[23:18] <bonhoeffer> syslog or dmesg
[23:18] <tozen> bonhoeffer: ls /var/log
[23:18] <smco> thanks CoDE -- guess it's not NTFS :-)
[23:18] <jhutchins> bonhoeffer: The problem is that logging is often the first thing that fails, and dmesg is only since last boot.
[23:19] <DarkAceLaptop> I wish dmesg had timestamps
[23:19] <bonhoeffer> jhutchins: humm . . .
[23:19] <bonhoeffer> it keeps crashing -- i found out i had bad ppa's
[23:19] <enen92> hey everyone. Probably of topic but do you know of any foss to use remote usb ports/sdcard readers as they belonged to my laptop?
[23:19] <bonhoeffer> but i fixed that -- and got a crash again
[23:21] <jhutchins> enen92: What's a remote usb port?
[23:22] <enen92> for example
[23:22] <tozen> bonhoeffer: sudo apt-get update??
[23:22] <CoDEmanX> a port mounted via a network maybe?
[23:22] <bonhoeffer> doing that
[23:22] <bonhoeffer> but still want to find out what happened
[23:22] <enen92> if I want to use my laptop to install something on a usb stick that is inserted on a friends laptop.
[23:24] <jhutchins> enen92: Well, you could share the mount and mount it locally, or use scp/rsync to copy it.
[23:24] <enen92> humm ok
[23:24] <enen92> tks
[23:25] <tozen> bonhoeffer: i would check logs anyway last 10-20 records about
[23:25] <bonhoeffer> tozen: which logs?
[23:27] <tozen> bonhoeffer: all /var/log
[23:27] <tozen> bonhoeffer: have no choice
[23:29] <BlackDalek> Help! How do I FULLY uninstall wine1.4? "sudo apt-get purge wine1.4" does NOT work. Menu entries still exist.
[23:29] <millerti_> I've tried lots of different things, making many error messages go away, but now all I get is a black screen when booting into X11.  How can I investigate this?
[23:30] <Beldar> BlackDalek, I don't use wine but was this a ppa install?
[23:30] <Ari-Yang> BlackDalek: http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-2e99ab665e3b15d1880eff2bcbb640b2d5839586 follow the "To remove these leftover menu entries, carefully paste the following commands into a terminal: "
[23:31] <stef1a> sometimes I get disconnected from my wifi. how can i tell the network manager to automatically reconnect?
[23:31] <BlackDalek> Beldar, no - installed from lubuntu software centre.
[23:31] <Beldar> BlackDalek, In the menu, does it run?
[23:33] <tozen> BlackDalek: rm -rf $HOME/.wine
[23:33] <tozen> rm -f $HOME/.config/menus/applications-merged/wine*
[23:33] <tozen> rm -rf $HOME/.local/share/applications/wine
[23:33] <tozen> rm -f $HOME/.local/share/desktop-directories/wine*
[23:33] <tozen> rm -f $HOME/.local/share/icons/????_*.xpm
[23:34] <FloodBot1> tozen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:34] <wolfspy> sometimes my computer freezes while playing java game minecraft with openjdk 7, after about 20 seconds it unfreezes. The whole desktop freezes, if im playing a video on the other moniter it freezes too but the sound dosent. Anyone know what's wrong?
[23:34] <tozen> sudo apt-get --purge remove wine
[23:34] <Beldar> tozen, don't tell people to rm here
[23:34] <tozen> Beldar: why?
[23:34] <zykotick9> tozen: fyi "apt-get purge foo" is shorter to type..
[23:34] <Beldar> tozen, channel policy
[23:35] <arityfn> Where are python scripts installed, if I install from a tarball or pip?
[23:35] <tozen> Beldar: so? how TS can sort the problem out without using proper commands?
[23:36] <wolfspy> anyone help?
[23:36] <Beldar> tozen, There are better ways, all it takes is a mistake in that command by you or the user to make a mess, this is common sense.
[23:37] <Beldar> tozen, I don't make the rules, it is just a heads up, it is use on occasion, but only if its the only option is all.
[23:38] <tozen> Beldar: well mayhap better to redirect user first with cd ~4
[23:38] <wolfspy> anyone???
[23:38] <tozen> Beldar: well mayhap better to redirect user first with cd ~
[23:38] <wolfspy> lol
[23:39] <Beldar> wolfspy, State the issues if you have not for help, and don;t just ask for help.
[23:39] <wolfspy> I already did
[23:39] <wolfspy> I can again if you want
[23:39] <wolfspy> sometimes my computer freezes while playing java game minecraft with openjdk 7, after about 20 seconds it unfreezes. The whole desktop freezes, if im playing a video on the other moniter it freezes too but the sound dosent. Anyone know what's wrong?
[23:39] <Beldar> !patience | wolfspy
[23:40] <enen92> wolfspy is your hard drive ok?
[23:40] <jhutchins> wolfspy: Java.
[23:40] <wolfspy> ubottu: I already did, no luch
[23:40] <wolfspy> ...
[23:41] <wolfspy> jhutchins: what about it?
[23:42] <jhutchins> wolfspy: The way java uses resources it would be a pretty big surprise if the problem weren't with the java code of the game.
[23:42] <BlackDalek> thanks, Ari-Yang - your link had solution.
[23:42] <Ari-Yang> BlackDalek: you're welcome
[23:42] <wolfspy> jhutchins: should I use the oracle java?
[23:42] <jhutchins> wolfspy: You could try, but the problem is most likely in the game code.
[23:43] <wolfspy> im pretty sure its not. It dosent happen on windows and other versions of linux
[23:44] <wolfspy> did ubuntu 13 get new drivers from 12
[23:44] <wolfspy> oh, I need to give my harware, don't i?
[23:46] <wolfspy> http://pastebin.com/5yJDf7sz here is my system info
[23:47] <Danato> Beldar: I found a workaround for my wifi issue. Even though this says fix released, the problem still exists on 13.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1104476
[23:50] <zerick> date.timezone is not recognized on my php.ini file, what should be wrong? (is the correct path, btw)
[23:52] <wolfspy> sometimes my computer freezes while playing java game minecraft with openjdk 7, after about 20 seconds it unfreezes. The whole desktop freezes, if im playing a video on the other moniter it freezes too but the sound dosent. Anyone know what's wrong?
[23:52] <wolfspy> http://pastebin.com/5yJDf7sz here is my system info
[23:52] <rutger> zerick: You can use phpinfo() to debug this issue, maybe you have a file that contains date.timezone in /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d?
[23:54] <ddeeff> Hi. I recently upgraded to the latest release and some config files were changed by the updater. I approved the changes, but now something broke. Is there a log of those changes?
[23:54] <zerick> rutger, I did -> php -i | grep "Configuration File" so this is the correct path. And phpinfo is the one that shows me "no value"
[23:57] <Sparkie> I installed opens on my ubuntu machine, however i can't connect to it from a local network connection, although the user and pass is correct i keep getting Permission Denied
[23:59] <[TiZ]> Hi. I recently bought a refurbished laptop. It has an HDMI output, but it doesn't appear in xrandr. What should I do about this?
[23:59] <zykotick9> Sparkie: "opens"?  doesn't seem to be an ubuntu package by that name.
[23:59] <Sparkie> openssh*
[23:59] <zykotick9> ahhh