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xubuntu876Hey everyone. I've been a Windows guy since forever and am trying to get into Linux. I'm trying to install some stuff like Java and nvidia drivers but they're not really just click and go installs, I have no idea how to run the installers. Can I get some help?00:28
knomexubuntu876, use the software center and the additional drivers dialog to install them00:31
xubuntu876Oh cool.00:33
knomexubuntu876, basically you should be able to install any and every application from the software center00:33
xubuntu876So I can download a .run file and use the software center to install it, or rather just find the applications in the software center and install them through there?00:35
knomefind the applications from the software center and install from there00:35
knomeyou don't need to download any files manually00:35
knome(except in some corner cases, but you shouldn't worry about that)00:35
xubuntu876For example when I search for Java in the software center it pullsup IcedTea Java Plugin and OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime, and not the actual Java install. Am I doing it wrong?00:39
knomedo you need a specific java library?00:39
xubuntu876I have no idea, just whatever will make Java applications on the web work.00:40
knomexubuntu876, install the icedtea plugin, that should work in most cases00:42
xubuntu876Very well, thanks.00:42
xubuntu876I just found the Additional Drivers app. Coooooooooooooollll00:45
xubunethi all!01:31
xubunetI'm looking for a bit of help as a xubuntu noob.01:32
xubuntu876Is Wine pretty uasy to use?02:24
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine  xubuntu876 have a read02:26
xubuntu876Under what directory is the File System?03:36
gooliganrunning side by side Xubuntu 13.10 and Win Vista, how do i get to the OS choices menu? it boots straight to windows otherwise.03:37
gooligan...tried shift and f8 on boot no effect03:38
UnHolyTerrorxubuntu876, ???04:01
x86_128I have a problem with wine06:54
x86_128I open anything under wine, no text is displayed06:55
well_laid_lawn!wine06:55
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu06:55
x86_128well_laid_lawn, i've tried #winehq countless times06:56
x86_128and am out of there06:56
x86_128so what now06:58
x86_128oh, google has not answers06:59
x86_128nor any other search engine i've tried, no answers06:59
x86_128Notepad that comes with WINE doesn't even have text06:59
well_laid_lawnwhy use wine to use an editor?07:00
x86_128and there would just be a "Program Error" Dialog with no text inside it.07:00
x86_128well_laid_lawn, any program in wine, i want to use dreamweaver07:00
well_laid_lawndid you check the appdb?07:00
x86_128dreamweaver setup has no text and then a "Program Error" dialog appear.07:00
x86_128Yes07:00
x86_128Every program ***07:00
well_laid_lawnI don't use wine so the bot link is the most help I can give07:00
x86_128>.>07:01
x86_128http://i.imgur.com/ALMPYIg.png <== my problem07:04
well_laid_lawnx86_128:  using ati graphics card ?07:10
x86_128uhm07:11
x86_12800:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)07:11
x86_128no ATI07:11
well_laid_lawntry adding -no-dwrite like this post suggests - it's for steam but who knows07:11
well_laid_lawnhttps://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1146389#p114638907:11
x86_128Still the same,07:12
* x86_128 needs to go for now, brb07:13
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ObrienDavecfhowlett, thanks for your help yesterday, really appreciate it.10:37
cfhowlettObrienDave, no problem.  are you 100% again?11:03
ObrienDavewell, not sure about 100%, but up and running. needed to clean the junk out anyway LOL. (trying to keep my sense of humor intact)11:06
ObrienDavenow I know why you all like separate root & data partitions11:08
cfhowlettObrienDave, it does tend to pay for itself over time in reduced heartache11:09
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ObrienDavei can understand that. thinking about doing that after this fiasco. any guides you can suggest?11:11
cfhowlettObrienDave, no guides, just my practice.  YMMV.  Alway use a dedicated /home.  clean out the old kernals once a quarter but always retain the final 2.  put essential stuff in ubuntuone for backup11:15
cfhowlett*kernels*11:15
cfhowlettand have fun11:15
ObrienDavecould I resize my home partition without reinstalling Xubuntu? or would you suggest starting over11:34
bazhangsure11:35
bazhangyou want to move it to a seperate partition as well?11:35
bazhang!home11:35
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving11:35
bazhangif it11:36
bazhangs a fresh install then just set it up from scratch11:36
ObrienDaveI just want to avoid future heartaches like last night. lost just about everything. very fresh right now11:37
cfhowlettObrienDave, you can pretty much re-part anytime.  if you're reinstalling, set it up know.11:37
ObrienDaveyea, wanted to do it before I reinstall 100GB of junk ;))11:37
cfhowlett:)11:38
cfhowlettyou are learning SO much!11:38
bazhanga resize will likely take longer than a fresh install, if it's recent11:41
ObrienDavehey, I may be old and slow, but not old, slow, and dumb. although you probably wouldn't have agreed with that 24 hours ago LOL11:41
cfhowlettdon't beat yourself up.  linux has a way of humbling ALL.11:42
ObrienDavei have never had a problem admitting when I did something really stupid :P11:43
zbrkxbrhi guys I need some help with my netbooks baterry (OS: Xubuntu   -   3GB RAM - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz x4 - 12 inch screen - xubuntu 13.10 32 bit - Nvdia ION )  looks like I have a baterry drain issue it's dechargcing so fast13:26
zbrkxbroh model number Asus : EEE 1201N13:26
zbrkxbr any sugestions ?13:28
xubuntu726SOMEONE CAN HELP ME?14:26
cubmaybe, ask your questions and we'll see14:27
Boesboeshehe14:27
cub!ask14:27
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:27
xubuntu726SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH, I'M ITALIAN14:27
xubuntu726I HAVE JUST INSTALLED XUBUNTU14:27
xubuntu726BUT AT THE START14:27
Boesboesand your capslock is on. :P14:28
cubyour English seems fine. Release CASP LOCK though14:28
cubxubuntu726, what happens at start?14:31
xubuntu056i have just installed xubuntu 13.10 but when i start it14:33
xubuntu056there is a black screen14:33
xubuntu056someone can help me14:33
xubuntu056?14:33
xubuntu056?14:34
cubxubuntu056, so no login page at all?14:35
cubxubuntu056, can you do ctrl+alt+F1 and login there?14:38
xubuntu646hi, i have just installed xubuntu from my usb. But at the start there is a black screen. someone can help me? sorry for my bad english, i'm italian14:40
cubxubuntu646, can you do ctrl+alt+F1 and login there?14:42
xubuntu157nono, the problem is when i must choose windows 7 or xubuntu14:50
xubuntu157i choose xubuntu and there is a black screen14:50
xubuntu157someone can help me?14:51
xubuntu157?14:52
xubuntu157?14:54
xubuntu157?14:56
GridCubexubuntu157, its pretty hard to help you with so little information14:58
arpad2after login with one user system error message appears briefly than blackscreen comes. any idea what could be done to fix this?14:58
GridCubexubuntu157, how did you installed the system, can you log in in recovery mode? is your computer hooked up to more than one monitor?14:58
GridCubearpad2, try loging in as guest14:59
GridCubesee if you can do that14:59
xubuntu157there is a screen where i must decide  if i want to start xubuntu or windows 7, when i click on xubuntu15:00
xubuntu157there is only a black screen15:00
arpad2GridCube>: that works and with a new user, there is no error , but I have error with the user which has sudo priviledges15:01
xubuntu157so what can i do?15:02
holsteinxubuntu157: have you tried boot repair? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair15:04
holsteinxubuntu157: can you get in with *any* kernel from that screen? the recovery mode? or an older kernel?15:04
holsteinxubuntu157: is this something that was working? and broke? or something that has never worked?15:05
GridCubearpad2, then login as guest and do gksu thunar. find your /home/user/ and rename your .local and .config folders, then relog as your main user and restore the settings you find useful15:33
syeekickwhere are the hotkey settings i want my windows key to open a terminal.. i could set it in normal ubuntu but i don't know how to do in my xubuntu now15:51
GridCubesyeekick, go to the setting manager go to keyboard to to the tab "shortcuts"15:52
syeekickyeah i was poking around in there its very difficult to put your own in there15:53
syeekicki enter where the terminal is and what key i want to press yet it doesnt display it in the list15:54
holsteinsyeekick: it can be a little tricky at first, if you literally just started messing around there.. try a known good (simple) command with a known key combo that is not in use, that is simple, that works.. troubleshoot creating an easy one16:02
syeekickwhere is the xfce terminal located?16:25
syeekicki just want to point to the binary16:26
holstein /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal ?? something like that i bet16:27
syeekickyeah tehre inst the executable there :I16:28
syeekickexo-open --launch TerminalEmulator  i added that as  short cut yay16:30
holsteinsyeekick: you can search /usr/bin for what you want.. or just use the xfce4-terminal command16:32
slickymastersyeekick: try /usr/bin/exo-open16:33
syeekickyeah i done it :016:33
syeekickthanks guys16:33
slickymasterI see you already discovered it16:33
syeekickyeah by fluke lol... there was terminal clickable button and i hovered over it unintenionally and i saw the command in the tdrop down. thought damn look at that , **yoink*16:34
syeekickwhaat my alt key seems to be locked down all the while16:35
syeekickwhere are the mime type settings for xubuntu?17:11
slickymastersyeekick: in the Settings Manager, under the System section17:14
syeekickthanks17:16
slickymasternp17:16
syeekicki noticed in some distros they have the root terminal built in where would it be in xbuntu?17:31
bazhangsudo -i for a root shell17:32
syeekickno there is normally an icon that you can click that will open a root terminal session i wanted to know where that is17:32
bazhangnot that I know of17:33
slickymastersyeekick: there's no such a thing in Xubuntu. bazhang advise is correct use sudo -i to get a root prompt17:34
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syeekicki wanted to assign a shortcut so when it opens a terminal it opens as root and i dont need to login. for only one session17:37
syeekickexo-open --launch TerminalEmulator << what would i add to taht to make it come up as a root terminal?17:38
syeekickexo-open --launch TerminalEmulator sudo -i ... now i get a terminal prompting password :P halfway there17:40
syeekickwhat would i add to the string to include my password17:40
holsteinsyeekick: i wouldnt.. i would review what it means to run code as root, and think about the inconvenience vs security17:45
slickymasterholstein: +117:46
syeekickyeah i know i'd open a terminal to do something not as root. but in most cases i run as root not out of convience just out of things needed to be executed as root as if not it wont work17:46
holsteinsyeekick: if you allow your user to sudo without a prompt, then, any code that wants to run can17:46
slickymastersyeekick: you can change the time frame that sudo rests without asking you for your password17:47
holsteinsyeekick: the default set up is, *no* code like that will run.. if you want to change that, feel free.. you are welcome, though, not encoraged17:47
holsteinencouraged*17:47
slickymastersyeekick: The default timeout of sudo is 15 minutes; that is, sudo will remember your password for 15 minutes by default.  You can modify this default timeout by adding a string in the file /etc/sudoers. However, you don't modify the file directly, but instead you use the command sudo visudo17:49
* holstein +1 on slickymaster 's suggestion... that is a nice compromise17:49
holsteininstead of editing the user permissions.. or storing a password somewhere17:50
syeekickyeah i just wanted to know exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator sudo -i    what more i have to add to that so it can auto enter my password17:51
slickymastersyeekick: for your consideration https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout17:51
holsteinsyeekick: you'd need to store the password somewhere its not suggested to store17:51
alfatauhello all. i installed a fresh 13.10 xubuntu on a virtualbox 4.3 guest machine. the glx extensions are missing and the xorg.conf file too. how should i  do to properly configure the guest display17:52
alfatauthank you in advance17:52
holsteinalfatau: i use the guest additions, but i cant speak to any of your versions with first-hand experience17:53
slickymasteralfatau: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf from a previous setup?17:56
zbrkxbrhi guys the playmounth has been broke after install the nvdia drivers how can I fix that18:10
zbrkxbrhas been broken*18:10
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alfatauslickymaster, holstein: it's a fresh install, so there's no previous setups. i do have guest addition installed.19:03
holsteinalfatau: thats what i do.. i would confirm that the virtualbox modules are running, loaded, and installed19:04
alfatauslickymaster, holstein: http://pastebin.com/uUaZ8q8q19:14
holsteini konw how long i spent trying to get 3d forwarding from guest to host19:16
holsteini never made it work, so i stopped bothering with it19:16
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xubuntu109Hello20:27
ObrienDavegreetings and welcome20:28
xubuntu109I`ve downloaded Xubuntu 12,10 on my windows. But I cant succeed with installation im writing now from emulator or i dont know how to call it. That thing that opens Unbootmanager from my hard disk20:28
xubuntu109that is opened by that program (sorry for my English)20:29
xubuntu109The installation file does not see any discs to install whole linux. Is there any good man who can help me?20:30
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xubuntu552greetings and salutations20:42
xubuntu552Thinkpad T400 + Xubuntu v. 11.1020:42
xubuntu552I have a problem: my keyboard shortcuts stopped working a little while ago....20:42
xubuntu552and I am having trouble fixing it20:43
ObrienDavehave you tried resetting the defaults?20:44
well_laid_lawnhave you checked that the keyboard shortcuts are still the same and that those do what you think in xev ?20:44
xubuntu552what is "xev"?20:45
knomexubuntu552, xubuntu 11.10 isn't officially supported any more; i would advise to upgrade to 12.04 first20:45
xubuntu55212.04 has obnoxious bugs, and I actually went back to 11.10 as a result20:45
xubuntu552don't have time to work out the problems. 11.10 was perfect20:45
well_laid_lawnxev is an app you run from a terminal that lets you check what key codes are generated when you press keys20:46
xubuntu552ok, let me see20:46
xubuntu552I type "xev" at the command line, and I get a lot of info20:48
xubuntu552events et.c20:48
well_laid_lawnyep. press say the alt key and read what is printed in the terminal - should mention Alt20:49
xubuntu552KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x4000001,     root 0x63, subw 0x0, time 1987645, (150,489), root:(781,859),     state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:      XFilterEvent returns: False20:50
xubuntu552looks like alt is working20:51
xubuntu552ok, this actually helped.20:52
xubuntu552there are 2 control keys, and I think that the one on the left is not working well.20:52
well_laid_lawnthere you go then :)20:54
xubuntu552interesting... if I remove that actual key, the underlying mechanism seems to have no issues at all20:55
well_laid_lawnmight be something under it stopping it from going all the way down20:55
ObrienDavecould be the actual contact points on the circuit board are dirty20:56
ObrienDaveI know the bowl of tortilla soup I spilled on mine a year or so ago still gives me problems now and then LOL20:57
xubuntu552aaah.... there is some sort of a piece of plastic grime blocking things20:57
xubuntu552old laptop20:57
well_laid_lawnthat'll happen sometimes20:58
xubuntu552yeah, it was a tiny little chunk of plastic that was getting in the way21:00
xubuntu552pressing a key did not create the contact needed21:00
well_laid_lawnso the software's still all good then21:01
xubuntu552yeah21:01
xubuntu552I know 11:10 is old21:01
xubuntu552but I had too many issues with the latter versions21:01
well_laid_lawnit's probably near end of life21:02
xubuntu55211.10?21:02
Unit193!11.1021:02
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 9, 2013. See !upgrade, !lts and !eol for more details.21:02
Poisoned_Dragonit be dead21:03
ObrienDavei do miss my 11.10. I have an old drive with it still on there21:03
xubuntu55211.10 was the best one, imo21:03
xubuntu552it's also a luck thing, because I suspect that it had to do with the T-series laptops21:04
ObrienDavei have a sony vaio, i had no issues at all with 11.1021:05
xubuntu552right,21:05
xubuntu552I think that my preference for 11.10 is due to the fact that I only use T-series21:06
xubuntu552alright, kids21:07
xubuntu552I am off21:07
ObrienDavewatch out for dirty keyboards ;))21:08
xubuntu131hola me pueden decir donde encuentro la impresora en xubuntu21:56
knome!es | xubuntu13121:56
ubottuxubuntu131: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.21:56
xubuntu131gracias21:57
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