[00:28] <xubuntu876> Hey everyone. I've been a Windows guy since forever and am trying to get into Linux. I'm trying to install some stuff like Java and nvidia drivers but they're not really just click and go installs, I have no idea how to run the installers. Can I get some help?
[00:31] <knome> xubuntu876, use the software center and the additional drivers dialog to install them
[00:33] <xubuntu876> Oh cool.
[00:33] <knome> xubuntu876, basically you should be able to install any and every application from the software center
[00:35] <xubuntu876> So I can download a .run file and use the software center to install it, or rather just find the applications in the software center and install them through there?
[00:35] <knome> find the applications from the software center and install from there
[00:35] <knome> you don't need to download any files manually
[00:35] <knome> (except in some corner cases, but you shouldn't worry about that)
[00:39] <xubuntu876> For example when I search for Java in the software center it pullsup IcedTea Java Plugin and OpenJDK Java 7 Runtime, and not the actual Java install. Am I doing it wrong?
[00:39] <knome> do you need a specific java library?
[00:40] <xubuntu876> I have no idea, just whatever will make Java applications on the web work.
[00:42] <knome> xubuntu876, install the icedtea plugin, that should work in most cases
[00:42] <xubuntu876> Very well, thanks.
[00:45] <xubuntu876> I just found the Additional Drivers app. Coooooooooooooollll
[01:31] <xubunet> hi all!
[01:32] <xubunet> I'm looking for a bit of help as a xubuntu noob.
[02:24] <xubuntu876> Is Wine pretty uasy to use?
[02:26] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine  xubuntu876 have a read
[03:36] <xubuntu876> Under what directory is the File System?
[03:37] <gooligan> running side by side Xubuntu 13.10 and Win Vista, how do i get to the OS choices menu? it boots straight to windows otherwise.
[03:38] <gooligan> ...tried shift and f8 on boot no effect
[04:01] <UnHolyTerror> xubuntu876, ???
[06:54] <x86_128> I have a problem with wine
[06:55] <x86_128> I open anything under wine, no text is displayed
[06:55] <well_laid_lawn> !wine
[06:56] <x86_128> well_laid_lawn, i've tried #winehq countless times
[06:56] <x86_128> and am out of there
[06:58] <x86_128> so what now
[06:59] <x86_128> oh, google has not answers
[06:59] <x86_128> nor any other search engine i've tried, no answers
[06:59] <x86_128> Notepad that comes with WINE doesn't even have text
[07:00] <well_laid_lawn> why use wine to use an editor?
[07:00] <x86_128> and there would just be a "Program Error" Dialog with no text inside it.
[07:00] <x86_128> well_laid_lawn, any program in wine, i want to use dreamweaver
[07:00] <well_laid_lawn> did you check the appdb?
[07:00] <x86_128> dreamweaver setup has no text and then a "Program Error" dialog appear.
[07:00] <x86_128> Yes
[07:00] <x86_128> Every program ***
[07:00] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use wine so the bot link is the most help I can give
[07:01] <x86_128> >.>
[07:04] <x86_128> http://i.imgur.com/ALMPYIg.png <== my problem
[07:10] <well_laid_lawn> x86_128:  using ati graphics card ?
[07:11] <x86_128> uhm
[07:11] <x86_128> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[07:11] <x86_128> no ATI
[07:11] <well_laid_lawn> try adding -no-dwrite like this post suggests - it's for steam but who knows
[07:11] <well_laid_lawn> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1146389#p1146389
[07:12] <x86_128> Still the same,
[07:13]  * x86_128 needs to go for now, brb
[10:37] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, thanks for your help yesterday, really appreciate it.
[11:03] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, no problem.  are you 100% again?
[11:06] <ObrienDave> well, not sure about 100%, but up and running. needed to clean the junk out anyway LOL. (trying to keep my sense of humor intact)
[11:08] <ObrienDave> now I know why you all like separate root & data partitions
[11:09] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, it does tend to pay for itself over time in reduced heartache
[11:11] <ObrienDave> i can understand that. thinking about doing that after this fiasco. any guides you can suggest?
[11:15] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, no guides, just my practice.  YMMV.  Alway use a dedicated /home.  clean out the old kernals once a quarter but always retain the final 2.  put essential stuff in ubuntuone for backup
[11:15] <cfhowlett> *kernels*
[11:15] <cfhowlett> and have fun
[11:34] <ObrienDave> could I resize my home partition without reinstalling Xubuntu? or would you suggest starting over
[11:35] <bazhang> sure
[11:35] <bazhang> you want to move it to a seperate partition as well?
[11:35] <bazhang> !home
[11:36] <bazhang> if it
[11:36] <bazhang> s a fresh install then just set it up from scratch
[11:37] <ObrienDave> I just want to avoid future heartaches like last night. lost just about everything. very fresh right now
[11:37] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, you can pretty much re-part anytime.  if you're reinstalling, set it up know.
[11:37] <ObrienDave> yea, wanted to do it before I reinstall 100GB of junk ;))
[11:38] <cfhowlett> :)
[11:38] <cfhowlett> you are learning SO much!
[11:41] <bazhang> a resize will likely take longer than a fresh install, if it's recent
[11:41] <ObrienDave> hey, I may be old and slow, but not old, slow, and dumb. although you probably wouldn't have agreed with that 24 hours ago LOL
[11:42] <cfhowlett> don't beat yourself up.  linux has a way of humbling ALL.
[11:43] <ObrienDave> i have never had a problem admitting when I did something really stupid :P
[13:26] <zbrkxbr> hi guys I need some help with my netbooks baterry (OS: Xubuntu   -   3GB RAM - Intel Atom 1.6 Ghz x4 - 12 inch screen - xubuntu 13.10 32 bit - Nvdia ION )  looks like I have a baterry drain issue it's dechargcing so fast
[13:26] <zbrkxbr> oh model number Asus : EEE 1201N
[13:28] <zbrkxbr>  any sugestions ?
[14:26] <xubuntu726> SOMEONE CAN HELP ME?
[14:27] <cub> maybe, ask your questions and we'll see
[14:27] <Boesboes> hehe
[14:27] <cub> !ask
[14:27] <xubuntu726> SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH, I'M ITALIAN
[14:27] <xubuntu726> I HAVE JUST INSTALLED XUBUNTU
[14:27] <xubuntu726> BUT AT THE START
[14:28] <Boesboes> and your capslock is on. :P
[14:28] <cub> your English seems fine. Release CASP LOCK though
[14:31] <cub> xubuntu726, what happens at start?
[14:33] <xubuntu056> i have just installed xubuntu 13.10 but when i start it
[14:33] <xubuntu056> there is a black screen
[14:33] <xubuntu056> someone can help me
[14:33] <xubuntu056> ?
[14:34] <xubuntu056> ?
[14:35] <cub> xubuntu056, so no login page at all?
[14:38] <cub> xubuntu056, can you do ctrl+alt+F1 and login there?
[14:40] <xubuntu646> hi, i have just installed xubuntu from my usb. But at the start there is a black screen. someone can help me? sorry for my bad english, i'm italian
[14:42] <cub> xubuntu646, can you do ctrl+alt+F1 and login there?
[14:50] <xubuntu157> nono, the problem is when i must choose windows 7 or xubuntu
[14:50] <xubuntu157> i choose xubuntu and there is a black screen
[14:51] <xubuntu157> someone can help me?
[14:52] <xubuntu157> ?
[14:54] <xubuntu157> ?
[14:56] <xubuntu157> ?
[14:58] <GridCube> xubuntu157, its pretty hard to help you with so little information
[14:58] <arpad2> after login with one user system error message appears briefly than blackscreen comes. any idea what could be done to fix this?
[14:58] <GridCube> xubuntu157, how did you installed the system, can you log in in recovery mode? is your computer hooked up to more than one monitor?
[14:59] <GridCube> arpad2, try loging in as guest
[14:59] <GridCube> see if you can do that
[15:00] <xubuntu157> there is a screen where i must decide  if i want to start xubuntu or windows 7, when i click on xubuntu
[15:00] <xubuntu157> there is only a black screen
[15:01] <arpad2> GridCube>: that works and with a new user, there is no error , but I have error with the user which has sudo priviledges
[15:02] <xubuntu157> so what can i do?
[15:04] <holstein> xubuntu157: have you tried boot repair? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:04] <holstein> xubuntu157: can you get in with *any* kernel from that screen? the recovery mode? or an older kernel?
[15:05] <holstein> xubuntu157: is this something that was working? and broke? or something that has never worked?
[15:33] <GridCube> arpad2, then login as guest and do gksu thunar. find your /home/user/ and rename your .local and .config folders, then relog as your main user and restore the settings you find useful
[15:51] <syeekick> where are the hotkey settings i want my windows key to open a terminal.. i could set it in normal ubuntu but i don't know how to do in my xubuntu now
[15:52] <GridCube> syeekick, go to the setting manager go to keyboard to to the tab "shortcuts"
[15:53] <syeekick> yeah i was poking around in there its very difficult to put your own in there
[15:54] <syeekick> i enter where the terminal is and what key i want to press yet it doesnt display it in the list
[16:02] <holstein> syeekick: it can be a little tricky at first, if you literally just started messing around there.. try a known good (simple) command with a known key combo that is not in use, that is simple, that works.. troubleshoot creating an easy one
[16:25] <syeekick> where is the xfce terminal located?
[16:26] <syeekick> i just want to point to the binary
[16:27] <holstein>  /usr/bin/xfce4-terminal ?? something like that i bet
[16:28] <syeekick> yeah tehre inst the executable there :I
[16:30] <syeekick> exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator  i added that as  short cut yay
[16:32] <holstein> syeekick: you can search /usr/bin for what you want.. or just use the xfce4-terminal command
[16:33] <slickymaster> syeekick: try /usr/bin/exo-open
[16:33] <syeekick> yeah i done it :0
[16:33] <syeekick> thanks guys
[16:33] <slickymaster> I see you already discovered it
[16:34] <syeekick> yeah by fluke lol... there was terminal clickable button and i hovered over it unintenionally and i saw the command in the tdrop down. thought damn look at that , **yoink*
[16:35] <syeekick> whaat my alt key seems to be locked down all the while
[17:11] <syeekick> where are the mime type settings for xubuntu?
[17:14] <slickymaster> syeekick: in the Settings Manager, under the System section
[17:16] <syeekick> thanks
[17:16] <slickymaster> np
[17:31] <syeekick> i noticed in some distros they have the root terminal built in where would it be in xbuntu?
[17:32] <bazhang> sudo -i for a root shell
[17:32] <syeekick> no there is normally an icon that you can click that will open a root terminal session i wanted to know where that is
[17:33] <bazhang> not that I know of
[17:34] <slickymaster> syeekick: there's no such a thing in Xubuntu. bazhang advise is correct use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[17:37] <syeekick> i wanted to assign a shortcut so when it opens a terminal it opens as root and i dont need to login. for only one session
[17:38] <syeekick> exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator << what would i add to taht to make it come up as a root terminal?
[17:40] <syeekick> exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator sudo -i ... now i get a terminal prompting password :P halfway there
[17:40] <syeekick> what would i add to the string to include my password
[17:45] <holstein> syeekick: i wouldnt.. i would review what it means to run code as root, and think about the inconvenience vs security
[17:46] <slickymaster> holstein: +1
[17:46] <syeekick> yeah i know i'd open a terminal to do something not as root. but in most cases i run as root not out of convience just out of things needed to be executed as root as if not it wont work
[17:46] <holstein> syeekick: if you allow your user to sudo without a prompt, then, any code that wants to run can
[17:47] <slickymaster> syeekick: you can change the time frame that sudo rests without asking you for your password
[17:47] <holstein> syeekick: the default set up is, *no* code like that will run.. if you want to change that, feel free.. you are welcome, though, not encoraged
[17:47] <holstein> encouraged*
[17:49] <slickymaster> syeekick: The default timeout of sudo is 15 minutes; that is, sudo will remember your password for 15 minutes by default.  You can modify this default timeout by adding a string in the file /etc/sudoers. However, you don't modify the file directly, but instead you use the command sudo visudo
[17:49]  * holstein +1 on slickymaster 's suggestion... that is a nice compromise
[17:50] <holstein> instead of editing the user permissions.. or storing a password somewhere
[17:51] <syeekick> yeah i just wanted to know exo-open --launch TerminalEmulator sudo -i    what more i have to add to that so it can auto enter my password
[17:51] <slickymaster> syeekick: for your consideration https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudoTimeout
[17:51] <holstein> syeekick: you'd need to store the password somewhere its not suggested to store
[17:52] <alfatau> hello all. i installed a fresh 13.10 xubuntu on a virtualbox 4.3 guest machine. the glx extensions are missing and the xorg.conf file too. how should i  do to properly configure the guest display
[17:52] <alfatau> thank you in advance
[17:53] <holstein> alfatau: i use the guest additions, but i cant speak to any of your versions with first-hand experience
[17:56] <slickymaster> alfatau: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf from a previous setup?
[18:10] <zbrkxbr> hi guys the playmounth has been broke after install the nvdia drivers how can I fix that
[18:10] <zbrkxbr> has been broken*
[19:03] <alfatau> slickymaster, holstein: it's a fresh install, so there's no previous setups. i do have guest addition installed.
[19:04] <holstein> alfatau: thats what i do.. i would confirm that the virtualbox modules are running, loaded, and installed
[19:14] <alfatau> slickymaster, holstein: http://pastebin.com/uUaZ8q8q
[19:16] <holstein> i konw how long i spent trying to get 3d forwarding from guest to host
[19:16] <holstein> i never made it work, so i stopped bothering with it
[20:27] <xubuntu109> Hello
[20:28] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[20:28] <xubuntu109> I`ve downloaded Xubuntu 12,10 on my windows. But I cant succeed with installation im writing now from emulator or i dont know how to call it. That thing that opens Unbootmanager from my hard disk
[20:29] <xubuntu109> that is opened by that program (sorry for my English)
[20:30] <xubuntu109> The installation file does not see any discs to install whole linux. Is there any good man who can help me?
[20:42] <xubuntu552> greetings and salutations
[20:42] <xubuntu552> Thinkpad T400 + Xubuntu v. 11.10
[20:42] <xubuntu552> I have a problem: my keyboard shortcuts stopped working a little while ago....
[20:43] <xubuntu552> and I am having trouble fixing it
[20:44] <ObrienDave> have you tried resetting the defaults?
[20:44] <well_laid_lawn> have you checked that the keyboard shortcuts are still the same and that those do what you think in xev ?
[20:45] <xubuntu552> what is "xev"?
[20:45] <knome> xubuntu552, xubuntu 11.10 isn't officially supported any more; i would advise to upgrade to 12.04 first
[20:45] <xubuntu552> 12.04 has obnoxious bugs, and I actually went back to 11.10 as a result
[20:45] <xubuntu552> don't have time to work out the problems. 11.10 was perfect
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> xev is an app you run from a terminal that lets you check what key codes are generated when you press keys
[20:46] <xubuntu552> ok, let me see
[20:48] <xubuntu552> I type "xev" at the command line, and I get a lot of info
[20:48] <xubuntu552> events et.c
[20:49] <well_laid_lawn> yep. press say the alt key and read what is printed in the terminal - should mention Alt
[20:50] <xubuntu552> KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x4000001,     root 0x63, subw 0x0, time 1987645, (150,489), root:(781,859),     state 0x8, keycode 64 (keysym 0xffe9, Alt_L), same_screen YES,     XLookupString gives 0 bytes:      XFilterEvent returns: False
[20:51] <xubuntu552> looks like alt is working
[20:52] <xubuntu552> ok, this actually helped.
[20:52] <xubuntu552> there are 2 control keys, and I think that the one on the left is not working well.
[20:54] <well_laid_lawn> there you go then :)
[20:55] <xubuntu552> interesting... if I remove that actual key, the underlying mechanism seems to have no issues at all
[20:55] <well_laid_lawn> might be something under it stopping it from going all the way down
[20:56] <ObrienDave> could be the actual contact points on the circuit board are dirty
[20:57] <ObrienDave> I know the bowl of tortilla soup I spilled on mine a year or so ago still gives me problems now and then LOL
[20:57] <xubuntu552> aaah.... there is some sort of a piece of plastic grime blocking things
[20:57] <xubuntu552> old laptop
[20:58] <well_laid_lawn> that'll happen sometimes
[21:00] <xubuntu552> yeah, it was a tiny little chunk of plastic that was getting in the way
[21:00] <xubuntu552> pressing a key did not create the contact needed
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> so the software's still all good then
[21:01] <xubuntu552> yeah
[21:01] <xubuntu552> I know 11:10 is old
[21:01] <xubuntu552> but I had too many issues with the latter versions
[21:02] <well_laid_lawn> it's probably near end of life
[21:02] <xubuntu552> 11.10?
[21:02] <Unit193> !11.10
[21:03] <Poisoned_Dragon> it be dead
[21:03] <ObrienDave> i do miss my 11.10. I have an old drive with it still on there
[21:03] <xubuntu552> 11.10 was the best one, imo
[21:04] <xubuntu552> it's also a luck thing, because I suspect that it had to do with the T-series laptops
[21:05] <ObrienDave> i have a sony vaio, i had no issues at all with 11.10
[21:05] <xubuntu552> right,
[21:06] <xubuntu552> I think that my preference for 11.10 is due to the fact that I only use T-series
[21:07] <xubuntu552> alright, kids
[21:07] <xubuntu552> I am off
[21:08] <ObrienDave> watch out for dirty keyboards ;))
[21:56] <xubuntu131> hola me pueden decir donde encuentro la impresora en xubuntu
[21:56] <knome> !es | xubuntu131
[21:57] <xubuntu131> gracias