[00:18] <atmega32u4> s
[00:19] <sealman> aboudreault
[00:30] <alaa> hello
[00:30] <Darokthar> wb
[00:31] <alaa> thanks
[00:31] <alaa> I don't think that the move from mint to kubuntu was the best
[00:31] <alaa> when on mint, I could chat with you guys, but here, chats are always quiet
[00:35] <alaa> darokthar: why are all my chat windows empty
[00:35] <Darokthar> But kubuntu is nice
[00:35] <Darokthar> I don't know
[00:35] <Darokthar> In this channel there are a lot guys
[00:35] <alaa> is it quiet for you as well?
[00:35] <alaa> I'm only seeing the messages you are sending
[00:35] <Darokthar> Yeah, only a lot of joins and leaves.
[00:36] <alaa> ah ok
[00:36] <Darokthar> Otherwise there is not much activity at the moment
[00:36] <alaa> kubuntu is nice, I agree. I love their DE. I finally removed windows 7
[00:36] <alaa> extremely happy
[00:37] <Darokthar> I used kubuntu for years. But i'm back to debian now. But still kubuntu is a really cool distro.
[00:37] <alaa> debian is ubuntu?
[00:38] <alaa> kubuntu is offering my what I need in terms of look, so I will have to be patient with my learning process
[00:38] <Darokthar> ubuntu is derived from debian but it is more user friendly. With ubuntu more stuff is working out of the boy
[00:38] <Darokthar> box
[00:38] <Darokthar> And ubuntu has a bigger community which is more friendly to newbies
[00:38] <alaa> :) people like me
[00:38] <Darokthar> If you are using debian you will get more often a statement as "try google".
[00:39] <Darokthar> Yes.
[00:39] <alaa> I actually try google, which was great when troubleshooting windows, but not very helpful when needing to ask specific questions about linux systems
[00:39] <alaa> although, I must add the help I was getting on help channel was amazing
[00:40] <Darokthar> Tomorrow i will setup a laptop for my 81 year old aunt with ubuntu because she has no idea how computers work. And the desktop of ubuntu is really clean and she will have less problems than with windows.
[00:40] <alaa> this is all so weird, I have never used IRC until two weeks ago
[00:40] <alaa> wow, that would amazing
[00:40] <Darokthar> I started using irc in 1996
[00:40] <alaa> my wife came home one day with a lappy that had ubunto installed
[00:41] <alaa> she had a hissie fit, and demanded that I install windows on her system
[00:41] <Darokthar> If you have no idea about computers at all i think it is no problem to just start with linux nowadays
[00:41] <alaa> last time I saw a linux system before getting mint was a system called redhat
[00:41] <alaa> couldn't function it for my life
[00:42] <Darokthar> There are only a few reasons for windows. If you have to work with microsoft office, or if you would like to play games.
[00:42] <alaa> and vowed my life and soul to Gates and his corporations
[00:42] <alaa> there is no way one could run office in linux systems, is there?
[00:42] <Darokthar> Yeah there are some distros where you have to have a lot of knowledge and patience. But ubunto is normally running out of the box.
[00:42] <alaa> libre is nice, but not the same
[00:43] <Darokthar> Especially if your colleges won't change. Working together with ms-office and libre office is hell.
[00:44] <alaa> I know, I couldn't afford to buy office at one point in my life, and I was using open office on windows xp. It was a nightmare
[00:44] <Darokthar> But if you could work with libre office and don't plan to use your computer for gaming linux is a really nice solution.
[00:45] <Darokthar> I had ms office only because my friends didn't wanted to use open office.
[00:45] <alaa> why is my system persisting to show me numbers in arabic-hindi, although I told it to pick arabic only
[00:45] <alaa> the numbers in the windows are all in arabic, but my devices shows arabic-hindi for the memory on hdd
[00:47] <alaa> if you've been using linux since 96, then you must be some super user in the community now
[00:47] <alaa> are you a programmer
[00:48] <Darokthar> I'm programming yes. And i get around in linux quite well. But there is always more to learn.
[00:48] <alaa> sweet
[00:48] <Darokthar> You will always feel like you don't know anything, if something is not working.
[00:48] <alaa> hehehe
[00:49] <alaa> I agree
[00:49] <Darokthar> At the moment my box crases when the battery is inserted while booting?!
[00:49] <Darokthar> And i have no idea why.
[00:49] <Darokthar> It's crazy.
[00:49] <alaa> thats messed up
[00:49] <Darokthar> KDE comes up i can start some programs and then it crases.
[00:50] <Darokthar> If there is no battery while booting it runs. And i have inserted the battery after booting was completed and it runs fine. Even if i disconnect the ac.
[00:51] <alaa> thats strange. I tried googling it for you, and there doesn't seem to be anything about this topic
[00:52] <alaa> what brand are you using?
[00:54] <alaa> it can't be a battery problem because if it were, then the system would crash when you insert it
[00:54] <Darokthar> I know. I got a thinkpad T410
[00:55] <James0r> how do you execute a .deb file from the command line?
[00:55] <Darokthar> I have no idea, too. But nobody has. This problem is quite impossible to debug
[00:55] <Darokthar> sudo dpkg --install name-of-debfile?
[00:56] <Darokthar> if you would like to install it.
[00:56] <James0r> Darokthar: does the file need to be in a particular directory?
[00:56] <James0r> Darokthar: yeah, install it.
[00:56] <Darokthar> no it should install itself then
[00:56] <James0r> i know how to click on the file from the file manager, just like to know
[00:58] <alaa> darokthar: how about removing your memory chips, trying to boot (won't work), and then inser them again, and boot
[00:59] <James0r> what's the best way to install google earth? seems like when i've installed it before with the deb file from google it found the dependencies on its own. this time it's saying cant satisfy
[00:59] <Darokthar> I ran a memory test. Everything is ok. And when i run on ac everything is working. It is some problem with the battery or ahci.
[01:00] <Darokthar> which packets?
[01:01] <Darokthar> brb
[01:01] <James0r> using Qapt i dont see where it tells me what's missing. but in terminal http://pastebin.com/RUdAEseP
[01:05] <Darokthar> re
[01:05] <alaa> are you a chemist too?
[01:07] <alaa> Darokthar: I must go and get some sleep
[01:08] <Darokthar> Ok, good night then
[01:08] <alaa> are you a chemist though?
[01:09] <alaa> I wasn't stalking, but your website had some chemistry merchandise, hence the question :)
[01:09] <Darokthar> No biologist
[01:09] <alaa> wow
[01:09] <alaa> I'm a physician
[01:09] <alaa> :)
[01:09] <Darokthar> Ah nice.
[01:09] <Darokthar> I didn't new i inserted a website in my profile *g*
[01:10] <alaa> you didn't :)
[01:10] <Darokthar> I guess it is blume-im-inter.net  but i don't remember inserting it *g*
[01:10] <Darokthar> It's been a while
[01:11] <alaa> yep thats the one I found :)
[01:11] <alaa> I assure you, I wasn't stalking. I was surprised when you disconnected that you were from Germany. I couldn't tell by your English; your grammar isn't off like my German friends
[01:12] <alaa> so I was curious
[01:12] <alaa> and I found your website
[01:12] <alaa> :)
[01:12] <Darokthar> No problem
[01:12] <alaa> have a good night
[01:12] <Darokthar> Good night.
[06:28] <WiGust> hello. Why resizing windows doesn't work in tiling mode?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:24] <doctorpepper> hi guys
[13:25] <lordievader> Hey doctorpepper
[13:26] <doctorpepper> can anyone please help me  i have  a issue as i move the mouse the desktop as well
[13:27] <doctorpepper> you can see  what i am talking about in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScyAeP5FmIY
[13:29] <lordievader> doctorpepper: I'm sorry could you describe your problem in a bit mroe detail? I don't see a problem in your video.
[13:30] <alaa> hello. Why does it take so long for KDE to setup my desktop when connecting to phone's bluetooth
[13:31] <doctorpepper> well, i am gonna make another  video
[13:37] <doctorpepper> lordievader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-jte1bcXAU   , you should focus on the text on the top panel   to see what i am talking about
[13:44] <lordievader> doctorpepper: You mean the sliding?
[13:44] <lordievader> I thought that was your recorder.
[13:44] <doctorpepper> no ihappens when i mouve the mouse
[13:45] <lordievader> doctorpepper: Is you resolution the native resolution of the screen?
[13:45] <mjayk> alaa: what phone system os and version do you have/
[13:46] <mjayk> alaa: need ALL the informatuonz
[13:48] <doctorpepper> 1366*768
[13:49] <doctorpepper> by the way  it was working  justing  until today when got out from a full screen video  on youtube
[13:50] <lordievader> doctorpepper: And 1366x768 is the native resolution of your monitor?
[13:57] <doctorpepper> yes
[13:58] <doctorpepper> lordievader:  yes
[14:01] <lordievader> doctorpepper: Try setting a different resolution that your monitor supports and see if the problem persists.
[14:02] <doctorpepper> already tried it
[14:06] <doctorpepper> any idea
[14:06] <lordievader> doctorpepper: You had the same thing with the other resolution?
[14:07] <doctorpepper> ryes
[14:08] <lordievader> doctorpepper: What graphics card do you have, what driver are you using and do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[14:08] <doctorpepper> no xorg.conf  and iam  using the intel driver
[14:09] <doctorpepper> for 2 years now  and it always worked great until today
[14:11] <lordievader> doctorpepper: Did you do a reboot after it happend?
[14:11] <doctorpepper> yes
[14:11] <doctorpepper> one time to be precise
[14:14] <doctorpepper> any idea
[14:15] <lordievader> doctorpepper: You could see if a different monitor shows the same thing.
[14:15] <lordievader> doctorpepper: Furthermore, I'm running out of ideas :(
[14:16] <doctorpepper> same problem  with other monitor  i was using a  2display  a few minutes ago
[14:17] <doctorpepper> and back then i was right to left or top to bottom
[14:42] <doctorpepper> lordievader:  i fixed  the  problem
[14:43] <forgeaus> glad you fixed yours, my desktop is completely black since last upgrade, no video I have to switch to a virtual terminal, log in and startx; startkde to even get a desktop lol
[14:43] <forgeaus> worked BEFORE the dist upgrade lol
[15:26] <hardy1> hi
[15:27] <hardy1> please tell i'm right? kubuntu is like ubuntu only with a kde program-desktop?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> yes , it's normally the case , but Kubuntu is taking a different route in it's development , now that canonical has decided to no longer support KDE.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> hardy1.^
[15:31] <hardy1> hi BluesKaj
[15:31] <BluesKaj> Hi hardy1
[15:31] <hardy1> kannst Du mir sagen wie ich unter Kubuntu Root-Rechte erwerbe?
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !de | hardy1
[15:33] <hardy1> sorry  i have opened ubuntu-de too, but i believe there ara all sleeping :D
[15:34] <hardy1> well i have a problem with kubuntu... i dont can get the root-rights
[15:35] <BluesKaj> hardy1. what is the problem , permission issues ?
[15:35] <hardy1> sudo -i dont works under kubuntu
[15:36] <BluesKaj> hardy1. when you installed kubuntu did you assign a username and password when asked?
[15:37] <hardy1> username with password
[15:37] <hardy1> i dont have installed it self
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hardy1. sorry i don't understand
[15:38] <hardy1> i only want to install there a hardware-drifer for a ITE-DVBT-Stick
[15:38] <hardy1> driver
[15:39] <hardy1> i dont know what happens while installing, because a other people was installing kubuntu on this laptop
[15:39] <lordievader> doctorpepper: How did you fix it?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> hardy1. do you know the correct password or are you logged in as a guest user ?
[15:41] <hardy1> i open the terminal and type in 'sudo -i'  and than i dont get root rights
[15:42] <hardy1> i know in ubuntu i can get root-right with sudo in other distributations i use 'su'
[15:42] <BluesKaj> sudo -su
[15:43] <BluesKaj> correction , sudo su
[15:44] <hardy1> ok thanks :) i will try it
[16:21] <Daniel^_^> ?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Daniel^_^. ??
[16:24] <soee> hiho :)
[16:25] <BluesKaj> heh , it's slow day in kubuntuville :)
[16:40] <esing> Hi, I'd like to remove and reinstall kactivities. I found these packages libkactivities-bin libkactivities-models1 and libkactivities6. Can I just remove latter packages and then reinstall them? I worry they have to many dependencies and mess up my system.
[16:41] <esing> too*
[16:44] <BluesKaj> esing. use the package manager to re-install them if you can identify the correct packages , that will make sure any dependencies are installed as well
[16:47] <esing1> BluesKaj※ I worry that if I later reinstall the three identified packages that many programs which are depended on them won't be reinstalled, because they are in reverse not necessary for kactivities http://paste.ofcode.org/PwpAGFHEsuRfpSPkyZGPXF
[16:49] <BluesKaj> esing1. in the depends list from the terminal , reinstall the last one first, and so on
[16:52] <esing1> BluesKaj※ There are two lists, not sure which one is the dependencies list. There is 1) "Following packages have been installed automatically and are not needed anymore" and there is 2) "Following packages will be deleted". Do you mean list 1) or 2)?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> neither , those a old depends that can be removed without affecting current pacjages
[16:53] <BluesKaj> are
[16:53] <BluesKaj> esing1.^
[16:55] <esing1> 1) are old depends, but 2) are current packages I thought?
[16:56] <esing1> Stuff like kdebase-runtime or kde-workspace would be removed too if removing libkactivities6
[16:56] <BluesKaj> esing1. no , only if you used a command to remove them , they will be safe to remove otherwise
[16:58] <esing1> So kde-worspace is an old dependencies which is no more needed? :S
[17:01] <BluesKaj> esing1.it may be an older version , but if you are concerned then don't remove it , it's your call , you can always reinstall it , it's in the repos
[17:02] <esing1> Still got backup, I'll try it
[17:07] <esing> Unable to launc /usr/bin/startkde X session not found; falling back to default session
[17:07] <esing> So I guess I just uninstalled my whole kde sc
[17:08] <BluesKaj> esing. , install kubuntu-desktop
[17:14] <esing> Done and rebooted, but the system still boots up very slow to KDE's desktop. (Still waiting for the desktop)
[17:15] <esing> I guess now I put the backup of the whole / to the system on and see if that fixes it. (If not then my /home is the cause)
[17:29] <esing> Do you think with Kubuntu LTS I reduce the risk of having broken packages as i do now have?
[17:30] <esing> I have the feeling it is a bug from an update. This user seems to have the same issue, just few days ago http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=118514
[17:40] <soee> esing, what packages?
[17:59] <esing> soee I update with cron.daily, therefore I am not sure how to reproduce which updated package resulted in my broken kde
[18:00] <soee> esing, im using 13.10 and have no problems with packages
[18:00] <esing> soee Do you also use more than one activitiy?
[18:00] <soee> do you have only core updates set or some additional ppas ?
[18:00] <soee> esing, 2 atm
[18:00] <soee> https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/B1iwngc22qe
[18:02] <esing> sooe I checked my sources-list and there is not additional ppa inside, just the standard saucy repos
[18:04] <soee> esing, and are you sure you have disabled proposed
[18:08] <esing2> soee※ This is my sources.list http://paste.ofcode.org/VHfHF3TAQi393LefRhajyH
[18:09] <esing2> I guess proposed is deactiviated
[18:09] <esing> I just finished putting the backup from yesterday on my system and the long booting time persists. Maybe there's an issue within my /home then? :S
[18:10] <esing> (I used the root backup and have /home seperately)
[18:13] <soee> esing, define long booting
[18:13] <soee> and what machine do you have
[18:13] <soee> it might be related to your hardware
[18:14] <esing> soee uefi and init is rapid as usual but when I reach lightdm it freezes for 3 minutes and then boots to the desktop. Without this issue it boots up in total within 20 seconds
[18:14] <fransuva> hi, what's the shortcut of return to destop on kubuntu 13.10? i use ctrl alt d but any action
[18:14] <soee> this shouldnt happen for sure
[18:15] <soee> return to desktop ?
[18:15] <fransuva> yep
[18:16] <esing> fransuva I use windows key + d, you can change the shortcut in global hotkeys though (under kwin I guesss)
[18:16] <fransuva> esing: i tried it too but any action.
[18:16] <fransuva> i'll try kwin
[18:17] <esing> soee I think he means to minimize all windows and then to see the desktop
[18:17] <soee> ah :) i have show desktop icon :)
[18:17] <esing> ^^
[18:18] <soee> if playing some game i just use my upper left corner to show all windows and switch to other
[18:18] <soee> and META  + TAB to switch activity
[18:19] <esing> Me too, the activities are pretty useful
[18:19] <soee> esing, when booting does it stops on some specific icon ?
[18:20] <soee> i has small slowdown when some network manager stuff was loading some time ago
[18:20] <esing> soee Yes on the last two icons. The second last icon takes around 20 seconds and then the last icon 2-3 minutes
[18:20] <soee> esing, try to create some extra user
[18:20] <soee> and login into this account
[18:20] <esing> Already tried that
[18:20] <esing> (Same issue)
[18:21] <soee> so this is not related to waht you have in your /home
[18:21] <esing> First login was fast but the second login was the same speed as I suffer with the other user
[18:21] <soee> ;o
[18:21] <esing> Hm right
[18:21] <soee> BluesKaj, some thoughts ?
[18:35] <BluesKaj> soee. i already made some suggestions , but I'm not an activities user so I ran out of ideas pretty quickly
[18:35] <soee> i doubt it is related to activities
[18:35] <soee> esing, on the second account did you configured activities also ?
[18:36] <esing> soee No, I didn't add a second activitiy on the second account. I guess kde comes always with the one default activity
[19:19] <soee> konversation test
[19:25] <esing> Not finding the issue since 4 hours hmm :9
[19:25] <esing> Worst case reinstall I guess
[19:31] <esing2> In /var/log/lightdm/x-O-greeter.log there are these errors: http://paste.ofcode.org/Lp3MKmvp4AjuZ9zt4BgYgD
[19:39] <soee_> test
[19:49] <esing> Reinstalling lightdm didn't help too :)
[19:54] <soee> :)
[19:57] <soee> esing: it is a fresh installation or upgraded ?
[20:02] <esing> soee It's an upgraded. Got it installed since probably a year now (I think I upgraded 13.04 -> 13.10 some month ago)
[20:03] <esing> I moved .kde and .kde4 and then when I restart the desktop starts relatively fast but always on the second boot it's slow again
[20:05] <soee> esing: do you do something after first boot or it happens even if you login/reboot
[20:05] <esing> No, I do nothing after first boot. I just reboot again to see if it's faster
[20:06] <soee> strange
[20:07] <esing> I think it's not /home from the test I did now. I think something in root is messed up
[20:09] <soee> esing: hard to say, after it starts all works smooth ?
[20:12] <esing> soee_ Yes, except that my desktop wallpaper away and my two activities are not working
[20:12] <esing> +is
[20:12] <soee> even more strange
[21:08] <munkda> efefef
[21:09] <soee> ok so you know 2 letters :)
[21:26] <jevon> is there a browser where i can resize the tabs just like in opera?
[21:26] <jevon> just like this: http://postimg.org/image/giwulljk9/
[21:26] <jevon> or at least an extension?
[21:27] <soee> not sure, but some allows preview when you hover tab
[21:27] <soee> *allow
[21:31] <soee> jevon: when it comes to borwsers try chromium or qupzilla
[21:33] <jevon> i tried both but the don't give me the option to resize the tabs just like in opera. i'm really used to it. though qupzilla is a good browser.
 not sure, but some allows preview when you hover tab     sry, didn't read that
[21:35] <soee> jevon: yeah for example qupzilla has this preview, not any fancy stuff just simple preview tab on hover
[21:36] <jevon> i've seen that for firefox and is nice to have but i would like it like it is in opera
[21:36] <soee> jevon: then why not use opera ?
[21:37] <jevon> opera is somehow dead since they changed to blink.
[21:38] <jevon> i'm not sure if i could stay forever with 12.16
[21:40] <soee> i havent try it for a logn time
[21:41] <jevon> but i really like that qupzilla offers this tab preview when you hover over it by default. this could be my next choice beside chromium.
[21:42] <soee> :)
[21:43] <soee> qupzilla also has nice feature to block flash
[21:43] <soee> also the tabs position configuration in cool
[21:45] <soee> jevon: share your thought if you have g+ account: https://plus.google.com/110954078302330754910/posts/RUnScFFEF5b
[21:50] <jevon> thank u soee
[21:53] <BluesKaj> qupzilla thinks my HTML bookmarks file is encrypted , so it won't import them
[21:55] <soee> :>
[21:56] <BluesKaj> anyway it's time for other things ...later folks
[21:56] <soee> let me try
[21:56] <BluesKaj> ok , I'll wait for a few mins
[21:58] <soee> BluesKaj: i have only few now in chromium, i exported them and imported to qupzilla, they are imported but dont show
[21:58] <soee> to and from file
[21:59] <BluesKaj> soee. yeah , I'm trying now as well
[22:00] <soee> ill ask nowrap
[22:06] <soee> hmm it will show sidebar with bookmarks
[22:06] <soee> CTR+SHIFT+B
[22:06] <soee> but there is empty non visible horizontal bar under tabs
[22:22] <BluesKaj> ithe bookmarks toolbar doesn't accept folders , they show empty
[22:22] <BluesKaj> anyway ., gotta go
[22:41] <soee> BluesKaj: [23:39] <nowrep> soee: oh yeah .. that's a bug
[22:58] <soee> jevon: https://github.com/QupZilla/qupzilla/issues/1093
[22:59] <soee> this might also leads to preview like in opera someday :)
[23:09] <jevon> that's nice to hear. i will follow the development. it already has a sidebar too, looks really promising.