[20:01] <AlanBell> evening all
[20:01] <Pici> g'afternoon
[20:01]  * AlanBell pops back to the kitchen to make coffee for everyone
[20:01] <MooDoo> 2 sugars please :)
[20:02] <AlanBell> #startmeeting IRC Council Nominations
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[20:03] <IdleOne> o/
[20:03] <Pici> \o
[20:03] <IdleOne> M
[20:03] <IdleOne> C
[20:03] <IdleOne> A
[20:03] <topyli> :/
[20:03] <Tm_T> IdleOne: cruel you
[20:04] <IdleOne> song stuck in your head now :)
[20:04] <AlanBell> :)
[20:05] <AlanBell> so, having given people a few minutes to wake up/pour coffee/beer/whatever who is here?
[20:06] <Myrtti> meh
[20:06] <IdleOne> o/
[20:06] <topyli> o/
[20:06] <Pici> \o
[20:06] <Flannel> ~~~o/~~~
[20:06] <Tm_T> present
[20:06] <IdleOne> Throw your hands in the air and wave'em like you just don't care
[20:07] <Myrtti> YOU ARE CARING I KNOW
[20:07] <IdleOne> I am :/
[20:07] <Fuchs> was dis?
[20:08] <AlanBell> so, the subject of this meeting is the IRC Council nominations, we are following the process outlined here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil
[20:08] <AlanBell> nominations we know about so far are . . .
[20:08] <AlanBell> Tm_T and Pici
[20:09] <Tm_T> Pici: rock on
[20:09] <AlanBell> and if anyone else would like to nominate themselves now is the time to do it
[20:09] <Fuchs> do you actually need more or do you have enough?
[20:09] <Fuchs> (pondering, hence asking)
[20:09] <AlanBell> well we should have 5
[20:09]  * AlanBell nominates himself
[20:10] <AlanBell> now we have 3
[20:10] <Tm_T> Fuchs: there's no "enough"
[20:10] <topyli> good going! :)
[20:10] <IdleOne> so, topyli and funkyhat are not running for another term?
[20:10] <topyli> not me at least
[20:10] <Pici> Real life things :/
[20:11] <AlanBell> the idea is we collect lots of nominations and put them forward to the CC who will set up the process for selecting 5 of them
[20:11] <IdleOne> real life things are good, hopefully.
[20:11] <AlanBell> so if we don't make it to 5 that is a bit inconvenient, but not unheard of, last time there were 4 initially
[20:11]  * Fuchs waits for now, then
[20:12] <Pici> hm
[20:12]  * IdleOne nominates self
[20:12] <AlanBell> yay \o/
[20:12] <Pici> woo
[20:12] <IdleOne> what the hell, might as well give you folks a run for your money
[20:12] <topyli> yes!
[20:12] <Tm_T> IdleOne: good boy
[20:13] <IdleOne> Fuchs: you should also
[20:13] <Fuchs> IdleOne: it would be a bit many hats to wear then  (loco op, ubuntuusers GC, IRCC) so I'd only do it if you desperately need more
[20:14] <Pici> undstandable
[20:14]  * AlanBell nudges Myrtti a bit
[20:14] <Myrtti> no
[20:14] <IdleOne> cmon Myrtti :)
[20:14] <Fuchs> aw :(  Myrtti is awesome
[20:14]  * IdleOne nudges Flannel 
[20:15] <IdleOne> Fuchs: very understandable
[20:16] <Flannel> Sounds like we should've had this goad-people meeting earlier to the deadline, if our selection process is "whoever is here and breathing"
[20:16] <Flannel> IdleOne: If I accept your nomination, does that make six or five?
[20:16] <AlanBell> Flannel: yeah, we did, last week
[20:16] <IdleOne> not trying to goad you sir, just think you would be good for the position.
[20:16] <AlanBell> this is a followup goad
[20:16] <IdleOne> Flannel: I believe it would be 5
[20:17] <Flannel> AlanBell: Ah, well, I missed it.  Was there an email?  "Come show up! Be volunteered!"
[20:17] <Pici> Lets stop goading people, its their own decision to nominate themselves.
[20:17] <Flannel> IdleOne: I will accept your nomination, but only if that makes six people.  So if that was only five, you'll need to find one more :)
[20:17] <IdleOne> I'm assuming AlanBell is keeping track
[20:17] <Pici> After all, this is a 2 year commitment.
[20:17] <Flannel> IdleOne: Think of it as a matching contribution :)
[20:18] <IdleOne> well, it seems we can't shame anyone else now :(
[20:18] <AlanBell> so far I see Pici Tm_T AlanBell IdleOne Flannel
[20:19] <IdleOne> Flannel: Please confirm yourself so I don't feel like I forced you into accepting
[20:19] <IdleOne> *the nomination
[20:23] <Flannel> I still feel that we should seek out one or two more.  It's not much of a confirmation/vote if barely have the minimum number.
[20:23] <Flannel> AlanBell: What are the requirements for a person serving?
[20:24] <Tm_T> be ubuntu member
[20:24] <Fuchs> Flannel: ubuntu IRC membership, being dedicated to IRC, having a bit or IRC knowledge, listet all at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil
[20:24] <Fuchs> (under IRC Council Charter, 4th point)
[20:26] <AlanBell> Flannel: yeah, basically Ubuntu Membership and wanting to do it really
[20:27] <AlanBell> nominations are open to the end of November, so still a few hours left :)
[20:27] <Flannel> right, operator status not required.
[20:27] <AlanBell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2013-November/001623.html set out the dates
[20:27] <AlanBell> Flannel: nope, not required to be an Op
[20:29] <Flannel> So, with this window, let me officially state this then: I will only accept nomination if we find at least one more (hopefully more!) additional people who accept nomination.
[20:30] <Tm_T> would be good to have non-ops in council too infact
[20:30] <Flannel> Not that I wish to be difficult, just that I wish for a vote that's more meaningful than "vote for five of these five people!" when it comes time for that.
[20:30] <AlanBell> Flannel: yeah, I am keen on there being a vote too
[20:31] <Fuchs> so basically you just need to find one who nobody will vote for anyway, then take Flannel ;)
[20:31] <Flannel> Lets have everyone take a homework assignment then, over the next N hours (how many? what timezone?), talk to folks about the IRCC, what it does, why it's important, and see if they're interested.
[20:34] <AlanBell> so I didn't specify a timezone, we normally use UTC, but it isn't a particularly hard deadline, we said "November" and I would be fine with that meaning that we send the list to the CC at an unspecified time on Monday with all nominations to that point
[20:35] <Pici> Sounds fine to me
[20:35] <AlanBell> the IRCC will prepare an email with the names, links to wiki pages and launchpad pages and any comments we may have about the nominations
[20:36] <IdleOne> Do I need to make a special page for this?
[20:36] <IdleOne> wiki page that is
[20:36] <Flannel> IdleOne: At least a section.
[20:36] <IdleOne> let me see if I remember my wiki all-in-one password
[20:37] <Flannel> IdleOne: I think the wiki uses launchpad now.
[20:37] <AlanBell> no need for a special page or section, just maybe take a look over the existing stuff and update if required
[20:38] <AlanBell> maybe add a note saying you are nominating yourself for the IRCC
[20:38] <Pici> And testimonials, if you like.
[20:40] <IdleOne> will do
[20:42] <AlanBell> so, thanks very much all for attending this meeting, and thanks to those who have nominated themselves, lets close this for now, further nominations will continue to be accepted, just let a member of the current IRCC know you want to put yourself forward by email or IRC or carrier pigeon
[20:43] <IdleOne> Thank you.
[20:43] <AlanBell> at some point on Monday the nominations we know about at that time will be passed on to the CC - we won't announce the time of that in advance, so no last second nominations will work :)
[20:43] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[20:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sat Nov 30 20:43:51 2013 UTC.
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[20:43] <Flannel> If you're waiting for the last second, this is the last second already!
[20:43] <Fuchs> I'll forward it to the ubuntuusers people, AlanBell. Where should they poke exactly? (E-Mail address)
[20:44] <AlanBell> Fuchs: irc-council@lists.ubuntu.com or just ping one of us on IRC
[20:44] <Fuchs> thanks
[20:44] <IdleOne> wiki slow to login for others?
[20:46] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne: a tad, yes.
[20:46] <IdleOne> nevermind
[20:46] <TheLordOfTime> (it's slow for me here right now)
[20:46] <IdleOne> ah, so it wasn't just me
[20:46] <IdleOne> thanks TheLordOfTime
[20:47] <TheLordOfTime> IdleOne: just finally kicked into gear and logged in, but i thought the system was gonna timeout on me
[20:47] <TheLordOfTime> (so no, i don't think its just you)
[21:49] <hggdh> IdleOne: ing
[21:49] <hggdh> er, actually, it should have been a *p*ing. Keyboard ate the 'p'
[21:50] <IdleOne> hggdh: ong
[21:50] <hggdh> heh
[21:50] <IdleOne> :)
[21:51] <hggdh> IdleOne: if you still need another one to self-nominate, I can do it.
[21:51] <IdleOne> AlanBell: ^
[21:51] <IdleOne> hggdh: yay!
[21:51] <AlanBell> \o/
[21:51] <AlanBell> thanks hggdh, I will add you to the list
[21:51] <hggdh> OK. mail to ubuntu-irc?
[21:52] <IdleOne> no need, you just nominated yourself
[21:54] <hggdh> anyway, already sent :-)