[15:56] <Arla> Hi. I want to test an alpha version of Inskape, because this bug (which affects me) seems to be fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/531678 How do I get the latest version?
[16:10] <phillw> Arla: 9.10 reached end of life in april 2011. http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2011/05/26/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala-end-of-life-reached-on-april-30-2011/ Any updates that have been applied will be for newer versions?
[16:13] <Arla> phillw: I'm using saucy.
[16:14] <phillw> Arla: then, if you still see the issue, please raise a new bug. It may be more helpful to pop onto #ubuntu-bugs and ask on there.
[16:16] <phillw> Arla: that team are more 'up to speed' on handling bugs, whilst the joining of QA and bugs together is ongoing. When in doubt about a bug, ask those wonderful people :)
[16:20] <phillw> Arla: they can better advise on a particular bug. It may be that the bug is 'alive' under a current number. If you pop onto that channel I'm happy to assist you in asking questions.
[16:44] <Arla> phillw: Thank you. It's not clear to me how the bug can be specific to an Ubuntu version.
[16:44] <phillw> Arla: do you still see the bug in Saucy?
[16:45] <Arla> phillw: yes
[16:46] <phillw> okay, it is marked 'fix committed' which means they want to fix it. This is different to 'Fix Released'.
[16:48] <phillw> Arla: by rights, it should be marked invalid as it is for a release that is no longer supported. If you pop onto #ubuntu-bugs we can ask on there.
[16:49] <phillw> anyone else awake on here to offer advice?
[16:54] <phillw> Arla: I've asked... But IMHO without anyone saying otherwise, I'd suggest raising a new bug and refer to the old bug.
[19:09] <jibel> Arla, Saucy has inkscape 0.48 and inkscape dev says it is fixed in r12698 which is not in Ubuntu. However the dev team has a PPA for Saucy where you can test inkscape trunk
[19:09] <jibel> Arla, https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/trunk?field.series_filter=saucy
[19:10] <jibel> Arla, if you confirm it is fixed there, you can file a bug against Ubuntu and hope someone can cherry pick the upstream fix.
[19:11] <jibel> phillw, the version of Ubuntu is irrelevant here, because it is an upstream project that uses launchpad as bug tracker.
[19:11] <jibel> ie not a bug in a specific version of Ubuntu.
[19:16] <phillw> jibel: I am currently watching a discussion on email about where to report 'upstream' bugs versus ubuntu bugs as per Policy: filing bugs against Ubuntu packages instead of upstream projects
[19:18] <phillw> I await their decision, until then I asked the OP to seek advice from the bug team. If you have better knowledge, then please do share it with me and the OP :)
[19:20] <Arla> jibel: I added the PPA and do apt-get install inkscape-trunk, but it won't install without removing gnome :s
[19:24] <phillw> Arla: is that requiring that you delete all of gnome, or just the meta package?
[19:25] <Arla> phillw: only meta package. is that safe?
[19:27] <phillw> Arla: if it ends with -desktop, it is quite safe to remove. It can cause complications when up-grading to the next release; but by then you will have learned about making a seperate /home partition :D
[19:28] <Arla> The following packages will be REMOVED: gnome inkscape
[19:29] <phillw> Arla: as you wish to install the new one, that makes sense to me?
[19:30] <Arla> phillw: inkscape being removed, yes. But the package "gnome"?
[19:31] <phillw> Arla: I'm not a ubuntu user.... jibel is it safe for Arla to follow the remove?
[19:33] <phillw> Arla: I'm a lubuntu user and we do know of that warning, which can be safely ignored. But, I am asking any other ubuntu user to check that it is safe to remove in ubuntu.
[19:34] <phillw> I'm 99% sure it would be okay, as it will tell you what it wishes to remove. But there is that 1% doubt.
[19:36] <Arla> I'm thinking that the worst thing that can happen is that I have to install that package again? That wouldn't be very disastrous.
[19:39] <phillw> Arla: depending on what it says exactly, as long as you do not see a whole list of files (i.e. your entire system), then the removal of the meta link is not harmful.
[19:40] <phillw> Arla: as long as you see something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveLubuntuDesktop then you will be okay.
[19:41] <phillw> Arla: if ib any doubt, do ask on #ubuntu, this area is not a support area and the people on there are much more familiar with such things :)
[19:41] <phillw> s/ib/in/
[19:43] <Arla> phillw: It seems like the bug persists.
[19:44] <phillw> Arla: then raise a new bug, but do reference to the old bug number.
[19:48] <phillw> once you have the new bug raised, ask if someone can confirm it. As it seems to be upstream, then you need to go 'nag' them to get it fixed.... I'm banned from 'nagging', so do be careful how you phrase your 'nag'. :P
[19:53] <Arla> :)