| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 05:22 |
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| Kilos | hi not_found | 05:36 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 05:53 |
| magespawn | good day all | 06:03 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 06:05 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 06:06 |
| magespawn | how is it going? | 06:06 |
| Kilos | good ty magespawn and by you? | 06:15 |
| Kilos | sometime you can tell me about the lekker wifi stuff you playing with | 06:15 |
| magespawn | hectic, time is moving too quickly at the moment | 06:25 |
| Kilos | yeah | 06:25 |
| magespawn | i can show you the links for most of the hadrware | 06:25 |
| Kilos | time and tide wait for no man | 06:25 |
| magespawn | hardware too | 06:26 |
| Kilos | lol | 06:26 |
| magespawn | http://www.engeniustech.com/business-networking/outdoor-access-points-client-bridges/16751-ens202ext | 06:38 |
| magespawn | this is one of the outdoor wifi points we are going to be putting up next week sometime | 06:39 |
| Kilos | does it get wired in or use battery and wireless for everything | 06:50 |
| kbmonkey | hi inetpro - yes I can run the show, and yes I would appreciate it if you can make an announce - thank you! | 07:06 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: By the way, Trixar_za on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey to check out http://trixarian.net/atrk-bu2.zip to my experimentation with auto-trackering" 10 hours, 33 minutes and 9 seconds ago | 07:06 |
| kbmonkey | yes maaz I know thanks ;) | 07:07 |
| kbmonkey | morning Kilos | 07:08 |
| Kilos | hi there kbmonkey | 07:08 |
| Kilos | the pro shopping or something | 07:08 |
| Kilos | he gets here late on saterdays | 07:09 |
| kbmonkey | ah I need to go shopping too soon | 07:09 |
| Kilos | do it | 07:09 |
| Kilos | good if everyone shops same time | 07:09 |
| Kilos | saves on scroll backs | 07:10 |
| kbmonkey | shopping can wait for my coffee :] | 07:11 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:11 |
| kbmonkey | but soon before it gets too hot | 07:11 |
| kbmonkey | cos I walk to the shops | 07:11 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:11 |
| Kilos | run there and walk back | 07:12 |
| magespawn | Kilos there is a POE injector and port on the access point | 07:16 |
| Kilos | what do you use for the cams all over the park | 07:18 |
| magespawn | that is Power Over Ethernet, a system for providing power over network cable | 07:19 |
| Kilos | you have them dont you to watch animals etc | 07:19 |
| Kilos | ok | 07:19 |
| magespawn | the only cameras are cctv ones at the moment, in the main areas of the lodge | 07:19 |
| magespawn | that is an idea for the future | 07:19 |
| magespawn | they only have remote camera traps at the moment that you have to go to get the pictures | 07:20 |
| Kilos | l ask ian when he comes online. i think they just installed cams all over some game park | 07:24 |
| Kilos | good to see poachers and catch them | 07:25 |
| kbmonkey | Trixar_za, thanks for that music gen script, that is very interesting! | 07:42 |
| fahadash | Hi Room | 08:55 |
| fahadash | Anybody from South Africa ? | 08:55 |
| charl | hi fahadash | 08:58 |
| fahadash | Hi, | 08:58 |
| charl | hi kbmonkey, magespawn, Kilos | 08:59 |
| fahadash | I am writing a paper on Speech 2 Text technology. I heard from someone that South African english has weird sounds that are made not through tongue and they are represented using separate characters | 08:59 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 08:59 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 08:59 | |
| fahadash | Is that true ? | 08:59 |
| charl | fahadash: i grew up in south africa and i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about | 09:00 |
| Kilos | hi fahadash | 09:00 |
| charl | fahadash: that does not make it true or untrue though | 09:00 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 09:00 |
| fahadash | So there is no clicking sounds made in the South African english ? | 09:01 |
| charl | no that sounds like xhosa/zulu or khoi/san languages | 09:01 |
| charl | not south african english | 09:01 |
| fahadash | I heard some dialects of english up there have adopted those xhosa/zulu stuff | 09:01 |
| charl | sotho/tswana/venda do not have those sounds either afaik | 09:01 |
| fahadash | Specially names of people have those sounds | 09:02 |
| charl | fahadash: languages are commonly mixed in south africa so that sounds correct | 09:02 |
| charl | but that hardly qualifies as a dialect | 09:02 |
| charl | and when it comes to people's names, well then logically yes | 09:02 |
| charl | but to classify that under "south african english" sounds wrong | 09:02 |
| fahadash | Ok . Let me ask you this | 09:02 |
| charl | it's like if you are a english speaker living in japan, the ability to pronounce japanese names does not create a new dialect | 09:03 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 09:03 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks ! | 09:03 |
| Maaz | charl: Okay :-) | 09:03 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 09:04 |
| fahadash | Say you have a guy named , (iono,) say Dav!id and it is pronounced Dav[click]ed, And you have Dav!id in your iphone's contact list. Now you want to ask siri to call Mr Dav!id, You do that by saying "Call Dav[click]ed", would SIRI understand ? | 09:04 |
| charl | i don't use siri so i have no idea how intelligent it is | 09:05 |
| charl | that would depend on how it's implemented | 09:05 |
| fahadash | Have you ever used or heard of any speech2-text technology being used in your country that involves zulu words/names ? | 09:06 |
| charl | in south africa? i don't live there but i have not heard of it | 09:06 |
| fahadash | Where do you live? If you dont mind me asking | 09:06 |
| charl | the netherlands | 09:06 |
| Kilos | xhosa doesnt make an x sound thats kinda like a click sound | 09:07 |
| fahadash | You guys play baseball like game of cricket right ? | 09:07 |
| Kilos | the x sound is a snap of the tongue off the roof of the mouth | 09:07 |
| Kilos | fahadash, where are you? | 09:08 |
| fahadash | Kilos, Just curious; how do you yell with that kind of sounds (like click etc) | 09:08 |
| charl | whahaha good question | 09:08 |
| charl | just make a harder click i guess | 09:08 |
| Kilos | lol yeah | 09:09 |
| fahadash | Like if you have to yell at Dav!id, "FFFF- YOU DAAAVVEE[*CLICK*]EEEDD" | 09:09 |
| charl | lol ja | 09:09 |
| charl | that sounds hilarious | 09:09 |
| fahadash | You never heard of somebody yelling and clicking hard ? | 09:09 |
| Kilos | you like hold the sound back with your tongue against the roof of your mouthand as it snaps loose the sound must follow the click | 09:10 |
| charl | fahadash you are busy with some study of dialects? if i may ask | 09:10 |
| charl | oh you're researching speech 2 text right? | 09:10 |
| fahadash | Kilos, Historically speaking; People on this network hate people from where I am from; so I try to associate myself to my parent's middle-easter background | 09:10 |
| Kilos | i cant think of a click in the middle of david | 09:10 |
| charl | yeah that doesn't sound right | 09:11 |
| Kilos | normally click is at the strat of a work | 09:11 |
| charl | fahadash: we don't hate anyone here based on their country of origin, that would be terrible | 09:11 |
| Kilos | start | 09:11 |
| fahadash | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_consonant | 09:12 |
| Kilos | fahadash, try find the click song | 09:12 |
| charl | hacker ethics don't judge people based on their background | 09:12 |
| fahadash | I am just writing a paper on Text 2 Speech technology, specifically the international aspect of it | 09:12 |
| fahadash | In USA its pretty easily implemented and practical | 09:12 |
| charl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mwh9z58iAU | 09:13 |
| Kilos | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onBLru8SfOk | 09:13 |
| charl | yup that's the better version | 09:14 |
| charl | hahahahaha it has been a long time since i heard it | 09:14 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:14 |
| fahadash | Hey the word 'Xhosa' starts with a click | 09:15 |
| charl | yes | 09:15 |
| fahadash | Say if you have to yell somebody saying 'QUIT SPEAKING XHOSA HERE!!! YOU MORON', how would you yell the clicking part ? | 09:15 |
| charl | i'm off have a good day all | 09:16 |
| fahadash | hahahahahahaha | 09:16 |
| fahadash | -click-click-click- in xhosa means Adams Apple | 09:16 |
| fahadash | With language like that who needs musical instruments lol | 09:17 |
| Kilos | lol | 09:18 |
| Kilos | later charl | 09:19 |
| Kilos | rather than try yell , walk up to the person and then do your click bit | 09:20 |
| fahadash | Well, sometimes a mother has to yell at child that could involve clicks | 09:20 |
| fahadash | "YOU KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THAT COOKIE JAR, OR I WILL SLAP YOU IN THE ADAMS APPLE" | 09:21 |
| fahadash | oh by saying adams apple, I meant click-click-click | 09:21 |
| magespawn | i have just asked, apparently native speakers of the language manage to click louder | 09:22 |
| Kilos | who did you ask? | 09:22 |
| fahadash | by the way, Are there any bad words in xhosa/zulu ? | 09:22 |
| Kilos | must be | 09:22 |
| fahadash | I mean the bad words with clicks, I wonder if you have to bleep them out for radio/tv transmissions | 09:23 |
| magespawn | some of the people i work with, one is xhosa | 09:23 |
| fahadash | You probably don't need to bleep them, they already have clicks | 09:23 |
| Kilos | there arent clicks in every word | 09:23 |
| fahadash | I am saying *if* there is a bad wordd with a click | 09:23 |
| fahadash | Like the F-Word might be click-click | 09:24 |
| fahadash | click-click you | 09:24 |
| fahadash | I mean not you, sorry | 09:24 |
| fahadash | Didn't put that in quotes | 09:24 |
| Kilos | np | 09:24 |
| fahadash | Ok, can I ask you a question. Since I have watched those two videos that charl shared | 09:25 |
| fahadash | If you dont mind me asking this | 09:25 |
| Kilos | ask | 09:26 |
| fahadash | Is there only black people who speak those languages with clicks and have names with clicks ? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | yes | 09:26 |
| fahadash | And white people never learn those languages or never learn to pronounce those names properly ? | 09:26 |
| Kilos | that wikipedia link gives the few times the click is used in english | 09:27 |
| Kilos | whites here learned english and afrikaans at school and some did german as 3rd language | 09:28 |
| Kilos | peeps that grew up on farms can speek the black language of the area they are in | 09:28 |
| Kilos | but nowadays one can choose what languages to learn at school i think | 09:29 |
| magespawn | you can learn any language you like, some are harder and some of it depends on where you live and grow up | 09:29 |
| fahadash | How big is that country by the way ? Can you see all of that in one day by driving around ? | 09:29 |
| magespawn | no way | 09:29 |
| fahadash | I heard its smaller than the size of florida | 09:29 |
| Kilos | almost big enough to have 2 time jones | 09:30 |
| Kilos | zones | 09:30 |
| fahadash | Actually I might be travelling to Johannesburg | 09:30 |
| fahadash | Florida has 2 time zones too | 09:30 |
| Kilos | http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Africa/South-Africa-LOCATION-SIZE-AND-EXTENT.html | 09:30 |
| fahadash | It sucks, I used to deliver pizza right at the timezone border of florida... I am always late when I didnt think I was | 09:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:31 |
| fahadash | Well, I check CIA factbook website for country information, its mostly accurate | 09:32 |
| fahadash | https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sf.html | 09:32 |
| fahadash | The good thing about it is, they have collected *every* possible detail about every country at one place | 09:32 |
| fahadash | Ok, I was wrong about the area | 09:33 |
| fahadash | on that page it says. "slightly less than twice the size of Texas" | 09:33 |
| fahadash | Texas is huge state, so south africa might be big too | 09:33 |
| fahadash | Kilos, Is the interstate driving easy up there ? | 09:34 |
| Kilos | yeah | 09:34 |
| fahadash | Well it was nice chatting with you South African fellow | 09:35 |
| Kilos | ok have a good day | 09:35 |
| fahadash | Once approved, I might be travelling and walking down the streets asking South Africans to talk to SIRI on my iphone | 09:35 |
| fahadash | I will see how it goes | 09:35 |
| Kilos | when you need to learn about ubuntu/linux come back | 09:36 |
| fahadash | Debian-linux is one of the target platform we are going to be working with. So yeah there's some ubuntu involved I guess | 09:36 |
| fahadash | oh by the way, there isn't any chat room where I can meet south africans ? | 09:36 |
| Kilos | http://www.chat2me.co.za/coolirc.php | 09:38 |
| magespawn | most of the people here are south africans, and resident or expat | 09:38 |
| Kilos | i dont do chatrooms but there must be more | 09:38 |
| fahadash | magespawn, I know; I would love to talk more about south african culture here... But I am afraid of the topic-police | 09:38 |
| fahadash | I would love to stick to the topic strictly, but I am not finding very many places to chat with south africans | 09:39 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google south african irc chat rooms | 09:39 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "CHAT 27 - Free Chat Rooms South Africa - No Registration Required" http://www.chat27.co.za/ :: "ZAnet" http://www.zanet.org.za/ :: "Cool IRC Chat on Chat2Me - Free Chat Rooms for South Africa" http://www.chat2me.co.za/coolirc.php :: "A Comprehensive List of South African Chat Rooms on IRC and The ..." | 09:39 |
| Maaz | http://www.chatmag.com/topics/nations/africa/southafrica.html :: "irc.ac.za - EFnet - The Original IRC Network" http://www.efnet.org/?module=serv… | 09:39 |
| fahadash | Maaz ? | 09:39 |
| Kilos | a bot | 09:40 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 11:49 |
| Kilos | lost and found are here | 11:49 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 11:50 |
| nlsthzn | o/ | 11:50 |
| nlsthzn | o/ again in case uncle Kilos missed the first one | 11:58 |
| nlsthzn | or is that uncle Kilos- ? | 11:58 |
| Kilos- | its me neelsie. just changed sims | 11:59 |
| Kilos- | i gotta learn to remember the ghost command | 11:59 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| nlsthzn | how are you uncle Kilos? | 12:00 |
| Kilos | well ty nlsthzn and you lad | 12:08 |
| Kilos | having a lazy day thinking about building a wifi yagi | 12:09 |
| nlsthzn | always good thanks :) | 12:09 |
| Kilos | planning rather | 12:09 |
| Kilos | gonna use an old tv aerials boom and keys from old keyboard as mounting and insulation blocks | 12:10 |
| nlsthzn | sounds interesting | 12:12 |
| Kilos | lol will take a pic when finished and if it works over 7 ks | 12:12 |
| Kilos | if not then remake from 20 element to 40 element | 12:12 |
| Kilos | found wonderful aerial design tool. hams today have it easy | 12:13 |
| nlsthzn | take many photo's as the project unfolds to share online eventually | 12:27 |
| Kilos | im following http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html | 12:30 |
| Kilos | but wood will warp if it gets wet so trying to make a stronger one | 12:31 |
| Kilos | not trying doing methinks | 12:31 |
| charl | has anyone here have been having problems with your email being flagged as spam by outlook/gmail | 13:47 |
| charl | i'm using hetzner germany as my hosting provider, i wonder if it might be related to their ip range | 13:47 |
| charl | cause my mail server seems to be configured perfectly | 13:47 |
| charl | that's according to mxtoolbox in any case, and i'm not on any spam list either | 13:47 |
| Kilos | i had 5 wrongly marked as spam from the dbnlug guys | 13:59 |
| kbmonkey | hello | 14:00 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 14:00 |
| kbmonkey | is your email being flagged in other's mailboxes charl ? | 14:01 |
| kbmonkey | hi Kilos & charl 0/ | 14:01 |
| Kilos | ooo other gmail has 55 spams | 14:02 |
| charl | kbmonkey: yes | 14:02 |
| charl | kbmonkey: when i send mail to somebody on gmail or hotmail | 14:03 |
| charl | well it's now called outlook.com | 14:03 |
| kbmonkey | ja they just have to add your addresss to their white list | 14:04 |
| kbmonkey | normally just by adding you to the address book | 14:04 |
| charl | this is in cases where i was simply replying on a mail sent by them in the first place | 14:06 |
| charl | or in the gmail case, in the hotmail case i was mailing them and the mail got rejected out right | 14:06 |
| charl | i got a bounce message | 14:06 |
| charl | which is actually better than getting flagged as spam, because at least then i know | 14:06 |
| charl | i don't like these providers... they are acting almost like a mafia now | 14:07 |
| charl | if you don't make use of their services like a puppet you are outside the "safe circle" and everything you send either gets bounced or flagged as spam | 14:07 |
| kbmonkey | I see you dont have any links or a email sig, ya I see no reason they should reject your emails :/ | 14:08 |
| charl | yup nothing | 14:10 |
| charl | you see what i mean | 14:10 |
| charl | something is up with these guys | 14:10 |
| kbmonkey | eish. ja just tell your gmail friends to add your address to their address book. that solves gmail. | 14:11 |
| kbmonkey | I cannot say why hotmail behaves like that | 14:11 |
| kbmonkey | perhaps someone did some heavy spamming from the same IP range that hetzner germany uses | 14:12 |
| kbmonkey | meybe tell hetzner, could be an issue they need to know about | 14:14 |
| magespawn | later all home time | 14:27 |
| kbmonkey | later! | 14:27 |
| charl | yeah that's a good idea to take up contact with them | 14:37 |
| Kilos | oooweee http://wifiantenna.wordpress.com/helical-antennas/ | 15:17 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ping | 15:31 |
| kbmonkey | pong | 15:31 |
| Kilos | haha | 15:32 |
| Kilos | we were looking for what 061 numbers were, ive just seen my new telkom sim is an 061 number | 15:32 |
| Kilos | wbb | 15:57 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: I'm trying out a vegie potjie | 16:42 |
| superfly | kbmonkey: http://instagram.com/p/hWBRO8s_rB/ | 16:43 |
| charl | wb Kilos | 17:00 |
| Kilos | ty charl | 17:01 |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:23 |
| inetpro | superfly: where's the fire? | 17:24 |
| charl | hi inetpro | 17:24 |
| inetpro | h charl | 17:24 |
| inetpro | Kilos: pong | 17:26 |
| Kilos | haha | 17:27 |
| Kilos | 061 is the telkom sims | 17:27 |
| Kilos | the new ones anyway | 17:27 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but we figured that already | 17:30 |
| Kilos | oh good man inetpro | 17:30 |
| inetpro | Kilos: but in fact some of the 061 numbers are cellc | 17:30 |
| Kilos | im just verifying | 17:30 |
| Kilos | wow | 17:30 |
| inetpro | 0614xxx is telkom | 17:31 |
| inetpro | if it's not ported | 17:31 |
| Kilos | ok | 17:32 |
| Kilos | oh ya i see that | 17:32 |
| superfly | inetpro: under the pot, it's small | 17:56 |
| superfly | doesn't need to be big, just needs to burn for a long time (in other words, I replaced that wood so many times) | 17:56 |
| inetpro | superfly: nice job, looks tasty! | 18:22 |
| inetpro | kbmonkey: topic potjiekos | 18:23 |
| inetpro | oops, he's not a bot? | 18:23 |
| charl | lol | 18:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hi grant_ | 19:07 |
| grant_ | hey Kilos | 19:08 |
| Kilos | hi cocooncrash hows things by you? | 19:09 |
| Kilos | when is our crash kid coming home? | 19:09 |
| Kilos | i go crash now night all. sleep tight | 19:17 |
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