[05:22] morning superfly and others [05:36] hi not_found [05:53] hi Kilos [06:03] good day all [06:05] hi magespawn [06:06] hey Kilos [06:06] how is it going? [06:15] good ty magespawn and by you? [06:15] sometime you can tell me about the lekker wifi stuff you playing with [06:25] hectic, time is moving too quickly at the moment [06:25] yeah [06:25] i can show you the links for most of the hadrware [06:25] time and tide wait for no man [06:26] hardware too [06:26] lol [06:38] http://www.engeniustech.com/business-networking/outdoor-access-points-client-bridges/16751-ens202ext [06:39] this is one of the outdoor wifi points we are going to be putting up next week sometime [06:50] does it get wired in or use battery and wireless for everything [07:06] hi inetpro - yes I can run the show, and yes I would appreciate it if you can make an announce - thank you! [07:06] kbmonkey: By the way, Trixar_za on freenode told me "tell kbmonkey to check out http://trixarian.net/atrk-bu2.zip to my experimentation with auto-trackering" 10 hours, 33 minutes and 9 seconds ago [07:07] yes maaz I know thanks ;) [07:08] morning Kilos [07:08] hi there kbmonkey [07:08] the pro shopping or something [07:09] he gets here late on saterdays [07:09] ah I need to go shopping too soon [07:09] do it [07:09] good if everyone shops same time [07:10] saves on scroll backs [07:11] shopping can wait for my coffee :] [07:11] lol [07:11] but soon before it gets too hot [07:11] cos I walk to the shops [07:11] ah [07:12] run there and walk back [07:16] Kilos there is a POE injector and port on the access point [07:18] what do you use for the cams all over the park [07:19] that is Power Over Ethernet, a system for providing power over network cable [07:19] you have them dont you to watch animals etc [07:19] ok [07:19] the only cameras are cctv ones at the moment, in the main areas of the lodge [07:19] that is an idea for the future [07:20] they only have remote camera traps at the moment that you have to go to get the pictures [07:24] l ask ian when he comes online. i think they just installed cams all over some game park [07:25] good to see poachers and catch them [07:42] Trixar_za, thanks for that music gen script, that is very interesting! [08:55] Hi Room [08:55] Anybody from South Africa ? [08:58] hi fahadash [08:58] Hi, [08:59] hi kbmonkey, magespawn, Kilos [08:59] I am writing a paper on Speech 2 Text technology. I heard from someone that South African english has weird sounds that are made not through tongue and they are represented using separate characters [08:59] Maaz: coffee on [08:59] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:59] Is that true ? [09:00] fahadash: i grew up in south africa and i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about [09:00] hi fahadash [09:00] fahadash: that does not make it true or untrue though [09:00] hi charl [09:01] So there is no clicking sounds made in the South African english ? [09:01] no that sounds like xhosa/zulu or khoi/san languages [09:01] not south african english [09:01] I heard some dialects of english up there have adopted those xhosa/zulu stuff [09:01] sotho/tswana/venda do not have those sounds either afaik [09:02] Specially names of people have those sounds [09:02] fahadash: languages are commonly mixed in south africa so that sounds correct [09:02] but that hardly qualifies as a dialect [09:02] and when it comes to people's names, well then logically yes [09:02] but to classify that under "south african english" sounds wrong [09:02] Ok . Let me ask you this [09:03] it's like if you are a english speaker living in japan, the ability to pronounce japanese names does not create a new dialect [09:03] Coffee's ready for charl! [09:03] Maaz: thanks ! [09:03] charl: Okay :-) [09:04] hmm... [09:04] Say you have a guy named , (iono,) say Dav!id and it is pronounced Dav[click]ed, And you have Dav!id in your iphone's contact list. Now you want to ask siri to call Mr Dav!id, You do that by saying "Call Dav[click]ed", would SIRI understand ? [09:05] i don't use siri so i have no idea how intelligent it is [09:05] that would depend on how it's implemented [09:06] Have you ever used or heard of any speech2-text technology being used in your country that involves zulu words/names ? [09:06] in south africa? i don't live there but i have not heard of it [09:06] Where do you live? If you dont mind me asking [09:06] the netherlands [09:07] xhosa doesnt make an x sound thats kinda like a click sound [09:07] You guys play baseball like game of cricket right ? [09:07] the x sound is a snap of the tongue off the roof of the mouth [09:08] fahadash, where are you? [09:08] Kilos, Just curious; how do you yell with that kind of sounds (like click etc) [09:08] whahaha good question [09:08] just make a harder click i guess [09:09] lol yeah [09:09] Like if you have to yell at Dav!id, "FFFF- YOU DAAAVVEE[*CLICK*]EEEDD" [09:09] lol ja [09:09] that sounds hilarious [09:09] You never heard of somebody yelling and clicking hard ? [09:10] you like hold the sound back with your tongue against the roof of your mouthand as it snaps loose the sound must follow the click [09:10] fahadash you are busy with some study of dialects? if i may ask [09:10] oh you're researching speech 2 text right? [09:10] Kilos, Historically speaking; People on this network hate people from where I am from; so I try to associate myself to my parent's middle-easter background [09:10] i cant think of a click in the middle of david [09:11] yeah that doesn't sound right [09:11] normally click is at the strat of a work [09:11] fahadash: we don't hate anyone here based on their country of origin, that would be terrible [09:11] start [09:12] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_consonant [09:12] fahadash, try find the click song [09:12] hacker ethics don't judge people based on their background [09:12] I am just writing a paper on Text 2 Speech technology, specifically the international aspect of it [09:12] In USA its pretty easily implemented and practical [09:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mwh9z58iAU [09:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onBLru8SfOk [09:14] yup that's the better version [09:14] hahahahaha it has been a long time since i heard it [09:14] hehe [09:15] Hey the word 'Xhosa' starts with a click [09:15] yes [09:15] Say if you have to yell somebody saying 'QUIT SPEAKING XHOSA HERE!!! YOU MORON', how would you yell the clicking part ? [09:16] i'm off have a good day all [09:16] hahahahahahaha [09:16] -click-click-click- in xhosa means Adams Apple [09:17] With language like that who needs musical instruments lol [09:18] lol [09:19] later charl [09:20] rather than try yell , walk up to the person and then do your click bit [09:20] Well, sometimes a mother has to yell at child that could involve clicks [09:21] "YOU KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THAT COOKIE JAR, OR I WILL SLAP YOU IN THE ADAMS APPLE" [09:21] oh by saying adams apple, I meant click-click-click [09:22] i have just asked, apparently native speakers of the language manage to click louder [09:22] who did you ask? [09:22] by the way, Are there any bad words in xhosa/zulu ? [09:22] must be [09:23] I mean the bad words with clicks, I wonder if you have to bleep them out for radio/tv transmissions [09:23] some of the people i work with, one is xhosa [09:23] You probably don't need to bleep them, they already have clicks [09:23] there arent clicks in every word [09:23] I am saying *if* there is a bad wordd with a click [09:24] Like the F-Word might be click-click [09:24] click-click you [09:24] I mean not you, sorry [09:24] Didn't put that in quotes [09:24] np [09:25] Ok, can I ask you a question. Since I have watched those two videos that charl shared [09:25] If you dont mind me asking this [09:26] ask [09:26] Is there only black people who speak those languages with clicks and have names with clicks ? [09:26] yes [09:26] And white people never learn those languages or never learn to pronounce those names properly ? [09:27] that wikipedia link gives the few times the click is used in english [09:28] whites here learned english and afrikaans at school and some did german as 3rd language [09:28] peeps that grew up on farms can speek the black language of the area they are in [09:29] but nowadays one can choose what languages to learn at school i think [09:29] you can learn any language you like, some are harder and some of it depends on where you live and grow up [09:29] How big is that country by the way ? Can you see all of that in one day by driving around ? [09:29] no way [09:29] I heard its smaller than the size of florida [09:30] almost big enough to have 2 time jones [09:30] zones [09:30] Actually I might be travelling to Johannesburg [09:30] Florida has 2 time zones too [09:30] http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/Africa/South-Africa-LOCATION-SIZE-AND-EXTENT.html [09:31] It sucks, I used to deliver pizza right at the timezone border of florida... I am always late when I didnt think I was [09:31] hehe [09:32] Well, I check CIA factbook website for country information, its mostly accurate [09:32] https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sf.html [09:32] The good thing about it is, they have collected *every* possible detail about every country at one place [09:33] Ok, I was wrong about the area [09:33] on that page it says. "slightly less than twice the size of Texas" [09:33] Texas is huge state, so south africa might be big too [09:34] Kilos, Is the interstate driving easy up there ? [09:34] yeah [09:35] Well it was nice chatting with you South African fellow [09:35] ok have a good day [09:35] Once approved, I might be travelling and walking down the streets asking South Africans to talk to SIRI on my iphone [09:35] I will see how it goes [09:36] when you need to learn about ubuntu/linux come back [09:36] Debian-linux is one of the target platform we are going to be working with. So yeah there's some ubuntu involved I guess [09:36] oh by the way, there isn't any chat room where I can meet south africans ? [09:38] http://www.chat2me.co.za/coolirc.php [09:38] most of the people here are south africans, and resident or expat [09:38] i dont do chatrooms but there must be more [09:38] magespawn, I know; I would love to talk more about south african culture here... But I am afraid of the topic-police [09:39] I would love to stick to the topic strictly, but I am not finding very many places to chat with south africans [09:39] Maaz, google south african irc chat rooms [09:39] Kilos: "CHAT 27 - Free Chat Rooms South Africa - No Registration Required" http://www.chat27.co.za/ :: "ZAnet" http://www.zanet.org.za/ :: "Cool IRC Chat on Chat2Me - Free Chat Rooms for South Africa" http://www.chat2me.co.za/coolirc.php :: "A Comprehensive List of South African Chat Rooms on IRC and The ..." [09:39] http://www.chatmag.com/topics/nations/africa/southafrica.html :: "irc.ac.za - EFnet - The Original IRC Network" http://www.efnet.org/?module=serv… [09:39] Maaz ? [09:40] a bot [11:49] hmm... [11:49] lost and found are here [11:50] hi nlsthzn [11:50] o/ [11:58] o/ again in case uncle Kilos missed the first one [11:58] or is that uncle Kilos- ? [11:59] its me neelsie. just changed sims [11:59] i gotta learn to remember the ghost command === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [12:00] how are you uncle Kilos? [12:08] well ty nlsthzn and you lad [12:09] having a lazy day thinking about building a wifi yagi [12:09] always good thanks :) [12:09] planning rather [12:10] gonna use an old tv aerials boom and keys from old keyboard as mounting and insulation blocks [12:12] sounds interesting [12:12] lol will take a pic when finished and if it works over 7 ks [12:12] if not then remake from 20 element to 40 element [12:13] found wonderful aerial design tool. hams today have it easy [12:27] take many photo's as the project unfolds to share online eventually [12:30] im following http://www.ab9il.net/wlan-projects/wifi6.html [12:31] but wood will warp if it gets wet so trying to make a stronger one [12:31] not trying doing methinks [13:47] has anyone here have been having problems with your email being flagged as spam by outlook/gmail [13:47] i'm using hetzner germany as my hosting provider, i wonder if it might be related to their ip range [13:47] cause my mail server seems to be configured perfectly [13:47] that's according to mxtoolbox in any case, and i'm not on any spam list either [13:59] i had 5 wrongly marked as spam from the dbnlug guys [14:00] hello [14:00] hi kbmonkey [14:01] is your email being flagged in other's mailboxes charl ? [14:01] hi Kilos & charl 0/ [14:02] ooo other gmail has 55 spams [14:02] kbmonkey: yes [14:03] kbmonkey: when i send mail to somebody on gmail or hotmail [14:03] well it's now called outlook.com [14:04] ja they just have to add your addresss to their white list [14:04] normally just by adding you to the address book [14:06] this is in cases where i was simply replying on a mail sent by them in the first place [14:06] or in the gmail case, in the hotmail case i was mailing them and the mail got rejected out right [14:06] i got a bounce message [14:06] which is actually better than getting flagged as spam, because at least then i know [14:07] i don't like these providers... they are acting almost like a mafia now [14:07] if you don't make use of their services like a puppet you are outside the "safe circle" and everything you send either gets bounced or flagged as spam [14:08] I see you dont have any links or a email sig, ya I see no reason they should reject your emails :/ [14:10] yup nothing [14:10] you see what i mean [14:10] something is up with these guys [14:11] eish. ja just tell your gmail friends to add your address to their address book. that solves gmail. [14:11] I cannot say why hotmail behaves like that [14:12] perhaps someone did some heavy spamming from the same IP range that hetzner germany uses [14:14] meybe tell hetzner, could be an issue they need to know about [14:27] later all home time [14:27] later! [14:37] yeah that's a good idea to take up contact with them [15:17] oooweee http://wifiantenna.wordpress.com/helical-antennas/ [15:31] inetpro, ping [15:31] pong [15:32] haha [15:32] we were looking for what 061 numbers were, ive just seen my new telkom sim is an 061 number [15:57] wbb [16:42] kbmonkey: I'm trying out a vegie potjie [16:43] kbmonkey: http://instagram.com/p/hWBRO8s_rB/ [17:00] wb Kilos [17:01] ty charl [17:23] good evening [17:24] superfly: where's the fire? [17:24] hi inetpro [17:24] h charl [17:26] Kilos: pong [17:27] haha [17:27] 061 is the telkom sims [17:27] the new ones anyway [17:30] Kilos: but we figured that already [17:30] oh good man inetpro [17:30] Kilos: but in fact some of the 061 numbers are cellc [17:30] im just verifying [17:30] wow [17:31] 0614xxx is telkom [17:31] if it's not ported [17:32] ok [17:32] oh ya i see that [17:56] inetpro: under the pot, it's small [17:56] doesn't need to be big, just needs to burn for a long time (in other words, I replaced that wood so many times) [18:22] superfly: nice job, looks tasty! [18:23] kbmonkey: topic potjiekos [18:23] oops, he's not a bot? [18:25] lol [18:32] hehe [19:07] hi grant_ [19:08] hey Kilos [19:09] hi cocooncrash hows things by you? [19:09] when is our crash kid coming home? [19:17] i go crash now night all. sleep tight