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nevynTIBS02: is it optimus?00:00
EMPHASIS_Hi, what app can I use to capture screen actions to .avi or .mp4?00:03
zykotick9Sparkie: from the computer running the ssh server, can you "ssh localhost" successfully?00:03
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dondopaSSH is good00:06
dondopa but how do i copy things recursively without copying everything over using rsync?00:06
zykotick9dondopa: scp has a -r switch?00:07
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dondopaOk here is ascenario00:07
dondopai use scp -r00:07
dondopabackup my files00:07
dondopalater i have 1 file that is new to the old backup00:07
nevyn[TiZ]: is it optimus?00:07
[TiZ]nevyn: Yes, it is.00:08
dondopahow do i add that 1new file to the old backup without copying everything over again?00:08
zykotick9dondopa: for backup, rsync is better...00:08
dondopaexactly00:08
dondopaso how do you do it inrsync?00:08
nevyn[TiZ]: so. the hdmi is probably not connected to the intel.00:08
zykotick9dondopa: i think -u is update... but check the rsync man page?00:09
dondopaok00:09
dondopathx00:09
zykotick9dondopa: fyi, rsync can use ssh... and be careful if you use the delete option (learned that the hard way)00:10
[TiZ]nevyn: Oh... I see. :/00:10
dondopaoh dam..00:10
EMPHASIS_can anyone recommend a desktop capture program to produce e.g. .avi or .mp4?00:10
nevynTIBS02: it's probably connected to the nvidia00:10
nevyn[TiZ]:00:10
nevynTIBS02: so sorry ;)00:11
nevyn[TiZ]: 11:17 < zykotick9> dondopa: for backup, rsync is better...00:11
nevynwat?00:11
[TiZ]Huh?00:11
nevyn[TiZ]: so bumblebee can I think deal with this00:11
dondopayou have a problem with rsync sucka?00:11
nevynbut the right answer is the stuff David Arlie is working on.00:12
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[TiZ]nevyn: I am currently using bumblebee. I might need some trickery to detect whether the HDMI is plugged in or not, and then actually using it when I run games..00:12
[TiZ]You mean the stuff airlied has been working on since forever?00:12
EMPHASIS_desktop capture! anyone recomend an app?00:14
wolfspysometimes my computer freezes while playing java game minecraft with openjdk 7, after about 20 seconds it unfreezes. The whole desktop freezes, if im playing a video on the other moniter it freezes too but the sound dosent. Anyone know what's wrong?00:14
wolfspyhttp://pastebin.com/5yJDf7sz here is my system info00:14
EMPHASIS_------------------------------------------------------- desktop capture -- can someone recommend an app? PLEASE? -----------------------------------------00:16
n000bHow can i remove and reload a kernel module? rmmod and modprobe does NOT work...00:17
DuncanNZEMPHASIS_: don't spam. your question should be: "Can anyone recommend a desktop capture app?"00:17
DuncanNZEMPHASIS_: and recordmydesktop works well for me00:17
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EMPHASIS_DuncanNZ -- thank-you . BFN00:18
n000bCan i somehow FORCE the kernel to trash a module that is claimed to be in use?00:18
piotr26EMPHASIS : Just click Print screen. That's all what you need to do00:19
bekksn000b: which module?00:19
n000bbekks dvb_core and drxk00:19
komerdoor/nick <naam>00:21
jmgkhi komerdoor00:21
n000bbekks i wanted to reload drxk because i provided the .fw file for my usb tuner to work    http://paste.ubuntu.com/6496791/00:21
nevyn[TiZ]: specifically the stuff to replace xinerama and handle usb video adapters and stuff.00:22
coventrywolfspy: In a terminal, monitor the process's memory usage with "top".  Press "m" to sort the processes by memory.00:22
nevyn[TiZ]: which he spoke about in january at LCA00:22
[TiZ]nevyn: How far along is it?00:22
wolfspycoventry: should I do it while the game is open?00:23
coventrywolfspy: Run the terminal in the window where said you watch the video.00:23
wolfspycoventry: I dont think the video is the problem, it happens without the video00:23
coventrywolfspy: Sorry, read that as how should you do it.  Yes, while the game is open.00:23
wolfspycoventry: java is taking up 102 cpu and 6.9 mem00:24
andywojoUse nmon instead of top.. top stinks. http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/nmon00:24
coventrywolfspy: Keep monitoring it until the symptoms reappear.00:24
wolfspyoops00:24
wolfspysorry00:24
wolfspycoventry: okj00:24
nevyn[TiZ]: well it was working code I don't know if it got merged tho00:25
n000bbekks nvm got it, had to unload em28xx_dvb then drxk then reload in backwards order, worked now00:25
zykotick9don't install debian packages on ubuntu... that's silly.  htop is a good top alternative.00:25
andywojoHaha why not?00:25
[TiZ]That's cool. usb monitors didn't work well for me for two years; I needed it for my work computer. I ended up just getting a card that can run 3 heads.00:25
Guest63526Hello, can someone help me mount a zfs pool using Native-ZFS?00:26
zykotick9andywojo: 'cause they aren't created for use on ubuntu - they'll have different dependencies...00:26
andywojoTrue, that's a possibility - but I know that it works fairly well00:27
zykotick9!wfm | andywojo just don't suggest it to others then...00:27
ubottuandywojo just don't suggest it to others then...: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/00:27
jmgkhi all00:28
andywojoAh okay00:28
andywojoWell, it looks like there is a ubuntu specific one: apt-get install nmon00:28
zykotick9andywojo: thanks though, i hadn't seen nmon before... probably won't replace htop for me - but good to know about.00:29
Guest63526Anyone use Native-ZFS much?00:29
jmgknope Guest6352600:29
coventrynmon looks slick, but basically useless for wolfspy's issue without further instructions on how to set it up.00:29
nevyn[TiZ]: what laptop is it?00:29
andywojoIt's born from AIX.. I like it better than nmon, because it exports nicely to CSV whereas I don't think htop does.00:30
bekksGuest63526: I am using native zfs, but not on Ubuntu. And I never heard of Native-ZFS.00:30
andywojobetter than htop*00:30
[TiZ]nevyn: Asus G46VW00:30
coventryandywojo: Yeah, that's completely irrelevant to the problem at hand.00:30
bekksandywojo: the AIX guys never heard of sar then ;)00:30
Guest63526Sorry, I wasn't trying to be specific I couldn't remember exactly it's name00:31
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andywojoWell he could let it run in the background and wait for the problem to come up. Can't do that with htop :)00:31
andywojoEw. Sar.00:31
Guest63526I *think* I installed it correctly, but zpool etc just suggest I install zfs fuse00:32
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adam_Hello00:33
piccahi adam_00:34
hassenhello00:34
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gsshhow much memory does my graphics board have?00:40
gsshin other words, how do i tell how much...?00:41
BlackDalekIs it possible to configure ubuntu so that when it starts, the user only has the option to run 3 specific applications and no access to any other programs or settings?00:45
adam_BlackDalek, Like a restricted shell? If so try rssh..00:47
BlackDalekadam_, "rssh"... is that a command, an app, a gui or what?00:49
adam_BlackDalek, This also might be helpful http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/05/27/how-to-lock-down-gnome/00:49
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BlackFlagGood evening, people! I don't know what I did that i'm not able to resize windows00:52
adam_BlackDalek, I would use pessulus if your trying to lock down a desktop environment and rssh if your trying to lock down a command shell00:52
nevynTIBS02:00:53
zykotick9BlackFlag: perhaps you should state what DE/WM you are currently using... PS. I'm not help, so don't both including my nick in reply ;)  best of luck.00:54
zykotick9s/I'm not/I'm no/00:54
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adam_Today I got rid of Windows 7 and installed Ubuntu over it so now I just have Ubuntu and Slackware on my computer.. It will be interesting to see how this turns out...01:00
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hassenwhat is the "super key" in ubuntu01:07
zykotick9hassen: "windows key", poorly named IMO01:08
DuncanNZzykotick9: do you think "windows key" or "super key" is the poor name?01:08
zykotick9DuncanNZ: well.. both i guess ;)  but calling the windows key, "super" is my main issue01:09
DuncanNZbut it's not the windows key just because most computers have a windows symbol on it01:09
DuncanNZon macs the "super key" is the command key01:09
gasshohow do you tell how much memory your graphics board gots?01:09
DuncanNZand also some people would object if Linux called it by "windows"01:09
gasshoin ubuntu 13.1001:10
zykotick9gassho: an example using lspci at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6496916/01:11
zykotick9DuncanNZ: i think it's that objection that led to "super key" ;)01:11
dooglusI just rebooted and my touchpad stopped working.  is there something I can run to reinitialise it?01:12
DuncanNZzykotick9: yeah :) I for one would object if I saw names of a competing proprietary software company written in my open source OS01:13
crankharderevery time I boot with kernel 3.8.0-33, I get dumped to an (initramfs) shell.  I can boot into 3.8.0-29 fine though.  How can I debug what's wrong with .33?01:15
dooglusalso, any tab that uses flash now says "oh snap" in chromium.  any fix for this?01:16
dooglusI upgraded the chromium-browser package01:16
dooglusthat's maybe when all the trouble started01:16
bekksdooglus: Did you restart Chromium?01:16
dooglusyeah.  and rebooted01:16
dooglusthat's when the touchpad quit01:16
dooglusI was trying to save bankwidth until I can get a proper Internet connection.  currently using the data plan on my phone, which is expensive.  so I just "apt-get upgrade chromium-browser" rather than less it download the full 500 MB of packages it wanted to get01:18
dooglusbandwidth*01:18
crankharderwhere are the kernelb oot options in 12.04?  what used to be /boot/grub/menu.lst01:20
grache28HI!01:20
zykotick9crankharder: check /etc/default/grub01:21
grache28Does anyone know a way to upgrade from 11.04 to something more current -- the system in question doesn't boot USB and I don't have access to a dvd drive atm01:21
Sparkiezykotick9: even when i ssh localhost, it prompts me for my PW, then it says permission denied, please try again01:21
zykotick9Sparkie: you aren't trying as root are you?01:22
Sparkiezykotick9: i am, and i changed the config to allow for root to use ssh. is that a bad idea? if so, why?01:22
crankharderzykotick9: dont think that's what I'm looking for.. I appear to have this problem, but i dont have a menu.lst file to edit... https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/busybox-initramfs-prevents-launch-of-ubuntu-server-8-04-3-a-758073/01:23
zykotick9Sparkie: that's stilly.  best of luck - i hope it all fails, and you continue getting denied.  don't reply to me further.01:23
Sparkiezykotick9: wow, harsh. thanks01:23
dooglusgrache28: "apt-get"01:24
zykotick9crankharder: /etc/default/grub is the boot options for grub?  ahhh, 8.04 is WAY to old to be getting directions from!  that's grub-legacy, NOT grub201:24
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crankhardertrying this solution now: http://www.proposedsolution.com/solutions/ubuntu-booting-to-initramfs-prompt/01:26
crankharder...but it doesn't appear to offer a permanent fix01:26
crankhardernot really sure how this happened to begin with... I formatted the SSD when I installed ubuntu. I never intended this box to be dual booted01:27
dooglusI did a full apt-get update && apt-get upgrade then rebooted.  and the touchpad still doesn't work01:28
dooglusfuck01:29
daftykinsbe careful of language please sir01:29
crankharderyea... from the initramfs prompt "mount /dev/sda1 /root" worked... how do I figure out how ubuntu is trying to mount /root?01:29
doogluslsmod | grep mouse shows no output - pretty sure it used to list 'psmouse' or similar01:29
dooglusdaftykins: it's ok, I'm all grown up01:29
daftykinsnot everyone here is, though (:01:30
daftykinsbe mindful of others01:30
zykotick9crankharder: just want to point out /root is root user's home directory not / filesystem...01:30
overdrank+101:30
ObrienDave!language | dooglus01:31
ubottudooglus: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.01:31
crankharderzykotick9: well, this is completely wack:  1) boot machine, which drops me into an "(initramfs)" prompt 2) mount /dev/sda1 /root 3) continue -- boots fine.  explain that :/01:31
doogluscould it be related to the fglrx thingy?01:31
zykotick9crankharder: i can't, but you've basically chrooted to /root then?!?!01:31
crankharderzykotick9: but yea, i see your point.  and now that i'm in.  if I sudo up, there's nothign in /root01:32
crankharderzykotick9: hell if I know01:32
crankharderi've got this in fstab: "UUID=bc030b95-9901-4b54-a7e1-f0738655904c /               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1" -- whcih seems all normal01:32
crankhardergonna reboot and try w/o step #2 above01:33
zykotick9crankharder: have you verified that UUID is correct?  "sudo blkid" will show you.01:33
crankharderbtw.. I *do* get the ubuntu loading screen prior to dropping to this initramfs prompt01:34
crankharderyea... wack.  just executing "exit" at this prompt fixes things01:34
dooglusI got the touchpad working again by running "sudo dpkg -i fglrx_13.101-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx-amdcccle_13.101-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb fglrx-dev_13.101-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb" and rebooting.  weird.  it WAS an fglrx issue01:35
crankharderzykotick9: and yes, the UUID in /etc/fstab correctly matches one of the drives from 'blkid'01:35
daftykinsAMD for you01:35
crankhardermeh 'exit' fixes this... this is gonna have to bug me a *lot* more to debug any further.  I dont turn this thing off except for, erm, lightning.01:37
FoxhoundzMy ISP upgraded to IPv601:38
Foxhoundzand now apt-get is broken01:38
Foxhoundzit's trying to resolve an IPv6 address and it's not updating01:38
wallzeroGreetings, is there a benefit to upgrading to Samba4 for filesharing or are the new features mostly geared towards active directory?01:38
ironfoot495Hello Guys:what software works best for  to make dvd's for blue ray and 1080p01:41
ironfoot495from torrent file also magnet.01:42
daftykinssorry, that isn't legal01:42
daftykinsyou will get no assistance here01:42
ironfoot495Does anyone know have tried everything I know?01:42
daftykinsi'll bet that was a long list01:42
SchrodingersScatdaftykins: can't download that big buck bunny thing and burn it?01:42
daftykinsburning rabbits would be rude01:43
SchrodingersScatgot me there01:43
ObrienDaveonly to the bunny01:43
ironfoot495Or shall I ask how do I burn video file for DVD players?01:43
ObrienDavesame as any other ISO file01:43
ironfoot495even 1060p and blue ray video files?01:44
ironfoot4951080p01:44
ironfoot495need help bad!!!01:44
daftykinsand you're not going to get any01:45
daftykinsas i just said :)01:45
ObrienDaveSAME AS ANY OTHER ISO FILE01:45
ironfoot495ok01:45
ObrienDaveoops, caps lock. ;))01:45
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ObrienDavei hate when that happens ;))01:47
danyelno18sal01:51
danyelno18este cineva ?01:52
roothorickudevadm info is telling me "device node not found" when trying to query /dev/nvidia0 or /dev/nvidiactl01:52
roothorickam I to assume then they don't generate udev events and I need to set permissions some other way? And how?01:52
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xanguadanyelno18: please no spam ;)01:54
zykotick9roothorick: can i ask what you're trying to accomplish?01:55
menujahola a todos01:55
millerti_Egad.  I reinstalled Ubuntu 13.10 because of various wonky things going on.  Now when I insert a CD, it gives me an error that it doesn't know about the rilesystem type iso9660.  How do I fix this?01:56
roothorick...wait a second, those devfiles are already read-write01:56
roothorickso why is it failing to open the kernel driver01:56
menujahalguna persona me puede decir como hago para crear una pagina web desde ubuntu01:56
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ObrienDavemillerti_, try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras. it might help01:57
millerti_For mounting CDs?  Isn't iso9960 something that should be built into the kernel?01:58
ObrienDaveyes, but it wont hurt to try01:58
vantageHi, I just had a notice come up on boot that a drive in my raid array has failed and I have booted with the degraded raid array. What sort of diagnostics can I do to see the cause of the failure? SMART returns a pass for the drive01:58
millerti_Alright01:59
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bekksvantage: dmesg02:01
bekksvantage: hdparm, smartctl -a in addition02:01
vantagebekks: Looking at that now. Any strings I should be looking for in there?02:01
vantagebekks: smartctl -a gave the drive an overall pass02:02
bekksvantage: whats an "overall pass"? Did you run a short/long selftest?02:02
jmgkhi all02:02
millerti_Did ubuntu deprecate virtual consoles?02:03
vantagebekks: SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED02:04
jmgkhey hassen_02:04
vantagebekks: full output here: http://pastebin.com/zEapBXMw02:04
bekksmillerti_: what exactly are you refering to? PTY? VTY?02:04
hassen_hello jmgk02:04
hassen_given that e.g windows 7  gets the drivers for the machine without any help of manufacturer-made drivers,they are still yet useful to enhance the drivers' functionality,so i wondered about linux(like ubuntu),aren't there drivers for machines made for linux?like ubuntu02:05
vantagebekks: though it does list errors in there, I have no idea what they mean02:06
millerti_bekks: Alt+Ctrl+Fkey doesn't work in 13.1002:06
bekksvantage: that drive is going to fail soon. See lines 61, 64, 65, 70, 73, 75, 76, and especially 77.02:07
vocxhassen_, I don't understand your question? All drivers should come from the manufacturer.02:07
zykotick9hassen_: wait, you don't think manufacturers make driver for windows... that's funny.02:07
bekksvantage: And the errors shows at the end indicate it is already failing.02:08
vantagebekks: I figured as much. Can you explain how you can tell that from those lines?02:08
vocxhassen_, what you could argue is that there is no hardware manufacturer specifically catering towards the open source community. They would be able to make drivers for Linux, Windows, and just about anything else. Hardware always contains "secrets", patents and stuff, so that's the tricky part.02:10
bekksvantage: unrecoverable sectors mean: every harddisk has a bunch of sectors not visible for normal usage, since they are used for replacing failed sectors "silently". If these hidden sectors are used up, vital sectors start to fail. Thats when you should replace the drive immediately.02:11
bekksvantage: In addition, you have a lot of unrecoverable errors, etc. - thats when the drive starts to die.02:11
vantagebekks: I guess I'm just not seeing "unrecoverable" in the output, where are you seeing that?02:13
bekksvantage: line 77.02:14
vantagebekks: ah, uncorrectable and the value of 100?02:14
hassen_vocx, so that means ubuntu belongs to the open source community?02:15
bekksvantage: raw value 2.02:15
bekkshassen_: of course.02:15
anchxI am having troubles installing bcrypt on 12.04, python3.2 setup.py install is failing everytime, any idea?02:15
zykotick9hassen_: ahhh, ubuntu belongs to canonical.  bekks - there is no "community"02:15
vantagebekks: What does the 2 mean? 2 uncorrectable errors have occurred?02:16
bekksvantage: yes.02:16
oncafsck, why would a lvm partition scheme drop an entire luks partition and how do rescue it?!?02:16
bekksonca: lvm doesnt have partitions, lvm uses volumes. And you have done something to "drop" it. You can recover it from your full backup.02:17
onca i dont have a full backup02:17
vantagebekks: Gotcha. As far as replacing the drive goes, is there a way to migrate to larger drives? Or would it be better to just build a new array and copy the data over?02:17
bekksonca: then you have no chance to recover.02:18
bekksvantage: that depends on your type of RAID, etc.02:19
vantagebekks: RAID 1, 2 drives02:19
bekksvantage: HW/SW RAID, etc.?02:19
vantagebekks: one of which has now failed :)02:19
vantagebekks: SW02:19
bekksvantage: dmraid/lvm/zfs?02:20
vantagebekks: lvm, not dmraid, not zfs02:22
vantagebekks: ext302:22
bekksvantage: you are using lvm to create a RAID1? That needs three drives, as you know.02:23
vantagebekks: it's been around for a while02:23
vantagebekks: no, mdadm (or whatever the pre-dmraid method of raid setup was), with LVM on top02:23
hassen_erm what's the command that echos the kernel version?02:23
bekkshassen_: uname02:24
hassen_bekks, thanks.02:24
vipintruderuname -r02:24
hassen_yes02:24
hassen_in ATI site,i want to download my gpu's driver ,they say that the supported kernel version is up tp 3.4,while my ubuntu 13.10 kernel version is 3.11.0-12-generic02:27
hassen_it won't be installed,no?02:27
jmgkcan people highlight me ?02:30
jmgkI want to see if Irssi works02:30
zykotick9jmgk: no02:30
jmgktry again02:31
zykotick9jmgk: no02:31
jmgkok02:31
jmgklol02:31
vocxIn Windows, I have seemingly two display drivers in my notebook: Intel HD Graphics Family and Nvidia NVS 4200M. How can this be? By the way, I cannot check this in Ubuntu, because I'm running it in a virtual machine.02:31
zykotick9jmgk: hope it worked ;)02:31
jmgktanks02:31
jmgkhmm02:31
jmgkhold on02:32
jmgktry again zykotick902:32
zykotick9jmgk: no02:32
zykotick9jmgk: that was the last one.02:32
jmgkow02:33
jmgknow02:33
jmgkzykotick9:  one more time02:37
zykotick9sorry your signal to noise ration is WAY to high.  this isn't "test" my irssi config channel.  good luck.02:38
zykotick9jmgk: notice i didn't include you nick above?  ooops ;)02:39
jmgkhmm02:39
jmgkheh02:39
codygmanHow would I recompile this into a deb for 13.04: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/1:0.23.0-0ubuntu1 Just download it and use dpkg-deb? Sorry, been a while since I packaged something and that was for plain Debian.02:41
codygmanNeed that because of the intuos support btw02:41
jmgkYes got it working02:41
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sage__hello i would like some very basic guidelines in crosscompiling a normal linux program for an AirOS machine02:43
sage__i've never done crosscompiling before and now i wanted to try it on this AirOS antenna from my friend02:45
ubuthetechguruhas anyone used the phoronix test suite before? i selected option 1 to run a test but it doesn't do anything02:45
vocxcodygman, I think there are some guides about creating the deb. These would be more useful than asking the irc channel. But yeah, I think basically getting the source, and following some instructions and dpkg-deb.02:48
codygmanvocx: Thanks for the input, I found a few of those. Actually I think I got it sorted ;)02:48
hassen_why is it well said that ubuntu (or other linux OS) can't be infected with viruses?02:49
vocxsage__, basically you need the crosscompiler, libraries and headers, to the architecture you wish. Then instead of using the normal compiler "gcc", you would use something like "cross-compiler-gcc" on the file you want. What is AirOS anyway?02:50
codygmanhassen_: Permissions is one reason it's harder for viruses to do well with linux. In windows everything is 755 by default. The other bigger argument is that it's not worth virus writers time to make viruses for linux, though that could change according to the market. However there are other reasons, these are just the biggest two taht come to mind for me.02:50
vocxhassen_, because of the permission structure. If you receive a virus, it will not work on system level directories because it does not have permission. If you run it with root it may, but if you run it with your normal user, it may only affect your home directory.02:51
jmgkhello hassen_02:51
hassen_so don't I need an antivirus given that i deeply browse the internet often?02:52
sage__AirOS is a special operating system for wireless access points02:52
sage__vocx: Im not sure.. i know it has something to do with wireless access points02:53
Ari-Yang!antivirus | hassen02:53
ubottuhassen: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus02:53
codygmanhassen_: If you use firefox+noscript and avoid flash/java web with ubuntu, it's very unlikely you'll get a virus. However, javascript is needed for much of the web and carefully allowing only sites you trust can do a lot in avoiding being infected.02:53
sage__vocx: my friends dad works in a internet provider and he had one spare antenna with that and he plays around with it02:53
defcon511someone got a clue how i can get the window hotcorner functions from ubuntu/windows7?02:54
defcon511when i drag the window on the top corner it just maximise to 1/2 desktop b02:55
sage__vocx: ive been googling around trying to find out what architecture AirOS uses with no results.. not even in the official wiki02:56
xanguadefcon511: do you have compiz settings manager installed¿02:56
hassen_understood,but i have  a PC where i often access the win7 OS partition to get some of my data in the other ubuntu's one.02:56
vocxsage__, which official wiki?02:56
sage__vocx: ubiquity's, wich is the manufacturer for Nanostation and it's OS02:57
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pfifohassen_: theres a great linux antivirus in the repos.02:58
pfifo!info clamav | hassen_02:59
ubottuhassen_: clamav (source: clamav): anti-virus utility for Unix - command-line interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97.8+dfsg-1ubuntu4 (saucy), package size 124 kB, installed size 564 kB02:59
sage__Nanostation is the name of the hardware for AirOS02:59
hassen_pfifo, i see,thanks.02:59
vocxhassen_, then you can install the antivirus and scan that folder regularly. Many viruses are hidden in Windows, but once you pass them to a Linux system you can see then in plain sight, as .exe files. Then you realise they are viruses, and you can just erase them. They won't do anything when they are in Linux as they don have permissions to do anything and the system folders that they target don't exist.02:59
hassen_vocx, understood,thanks.03:00
defcon511@xangua thanks looked it up and im installing it right now, i think it will fix my problem03:01
davidstrada#laravel03:02
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TeamColtraApparently this slowed my server down dramatically https://www.dropbox.com/s/33dvt1wq5vnzcrj/Screenshot%202013-11-29%2022.06.43.png03:08
foureyes779Does Ubuntu have a PPC version that is active ?03:21
sage__hmm anyone know how to crosscompile for MIPS CPU architecture?03:22
jmgknhm03:22
jmgknope03:22
ObrienDavefoureyes779, there is a server edition available03:24
foureyes779ObrienDave: do they have an IRC channel ?03:24
ObrienDavethat i don't know03:25
ereki'm having a problem with mysql, i installed the mysql-server, but the daemon fails to start when i run /etc/init.d/mysqld restart03:25
foureyes779ObrienDave: ok, I currently run debian PPC, but having a prob with a Radeon card and not finding any support at all with the issue, so looking at other options03:25
buuerek: What does the log say?03:26
ObrienDavetorrent: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/file?info_hash=%E9%E4%BD%D5%A3%DE%3D%BD%E9%12Y%C2%80%D2%B96%1D%21%1C%C503:26
buuerek: What does manually starting it say?03:26
erekbuu: where's the log? /var/log?03:27
buuerek: That would be a good guess03:28
erekthey're empty03:28
erekthe log files03:28
buuerek: All of them?03:29
buuwhat does dmesg say?03:29
erekyup03:29
erekbuu: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)03:29
buuWhat does starting it manually say?03:29
buuwhat?03:30
erek[15967.687508] init: mysql main process ended, respawning03:30
erek[15967.699262] type=1400 audit(1385780792.379:79): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_replace" parent=11437 profile="unconfined" name="/usr/sbin/mysqld" pid=11441 comm="apparmor_parser"03:30
erekthat's from dmesg03:30
buuok..03:30
erekthe first one is from manually starting it03:30
buuerek: Start it non-daemon in the foreground and see what it says03:31
erekhow?03:31
buuerek: mysqld ?03:32
ben_hey, i'm on ubuntu gnome, i installed flashplugin-installer but can't use flash in firefox. how can i find more information about my problem?03:33
zykotick9ben_: did you restart ALL firefox instances?03:33
ben_i will verify with pkill03:33
ben_yep03:34
xanguaben_: id you restart firefox¿ does shockwave flash show in tools>addons>plugins¿03:34
ben_xangua yes it does03:34
buuben_: What does adobe's flash test show?03:35
ben_buu where would i find that?03:35
ben_on their site?03:35
ben_ooooookay, i had flashblock installed and the interface never shoed up so i can't whitelist sites, nvm03:36
buuhahahahahha03:36
ereki got it working, buu03:36
erekbuu: i restarted the whole operating system03:36
erekthe whole thing03:36
erekbuu: how do i get my mysql server to work with my apache2 server?03:37
buuerek: Apache2 is a webserver, mysql is a sql server, they have nothing in common03:38
erekdarn03:38
buuerek: What are you actually trying to accomplish?03:38
erekbuu: i wanted to use php to access a sql a database03:38
ereki got mod php installed with my apache2 server03:38
buuerek: PHP is a programming language with libraries to access sql servers03:38
riccrouchyou need phpmyadmin03:38
buuThis is mostly irrelevant to apache03:38
riccrouchhttp://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/index.php03:39
vantagebekks: Thanks for your help!03:39
buuerek: what kind of php program?03:39
erekbuu: something.php accessed through the apache2 server03:40
buuerek: You're not being terribly specific.03:40
ereki want to create a database03:41
erekin mysql03:41
erekand then i want access the database from a php file03:41
geoffmccbuu: you will need to install php5-mysql, but if you apt-get install phpmyadmin it will get you everything needed. Not required, but easier to administer the databases03:41
riccroucherek: phpmyadmin is a web-based front-end to a mysql database. You can create and edit databases from there.03:41
geoffmccwrong person sorry03:42
riccrouchIf you are just looking to write a PHP script to access the database, you don't need any extra stuff03:42
erekriccrouch: do you think phpmyadmin is a cheap way to administer a database?03:42
erekis it better to do everything by hand03:42
riccrouchCheap?  It's free03:42
erekcheap as in like cheating03:43
erekinstead of doing it all by hand03:43
riccrouchBasically its a graphical interface to the database.  You would use it to create and load/edit a database.  You can use code to dynamically create pages and edit the database from code.03:43
erekwill i be cheating myself out of learning03:43
erekunderstanding how sql works03:43
mnemonnot really, you'll see the scripts through that too03:43
riccrouchNot at all.  Used for different purpose03:43
riccrouchphpmyadmin has an "SQL" window where you can write pure SQL code if you want to.03:44
mnemonalso, leaving it accessible to the world on production server is a very bad idea.03:44
dondopaBind9 is hard to configure03:45
riccrouchI think by default phpmyadmin is only available on the localhost03:45
dondopaRocket science03:45
riccrouchbut that can be changed, so be careful03:45
dondopaMy father configured Bind9  and forwarded the DNS servers of my ISP03:45
dondopaits set up and running but we still cant get it to resolve names for our apache web server sites03:45
dondopaIf I had a job that requiredme to do this I would havebeen fired03:46
ereki got my myphpadmin installed03:47
erekhow do i access it?03:47
Boohbahdondopa: and this is a failure of bind9?03:47
dondopaNo it is a failure of me03:47
dondopaBecause I am not a machine03:47
riccroucherek" usually http://<server address here>/phpMyAdmin03:47
dondopaBIND9 is when a person cannot help but say to himself"This is just too much linux"03:48
dondopaWAy too much linux mane!03:48
riccrouchsorry.... phpmyadmin, not phpMyAdmin03:48
mnemondondopa: define a zone, write few A records in there, done.03:48
dondopawill that make it resolve the names so that I can access ampache on my tablet?03:48
foureyes779peterrooney: welcome back03:49
mnemonas long as you use that server as your dns server, yes03:49
dondopaWhen I use nslookup it gives me the address of the router03:49
dondopais that ok?03:49
mnemoni guess it depends on how your router is configured and where the bind is.03:50
dondopaBIND has got me in a bind...03:51
xmetalno such thing as "Too much linux" if you ask me03:51
xmetal:)03:51
geoffmccdondopa: if your just looking for function and dont mind sharing your domain, you could always setup your domain on afraid.org for free03:52
dondopalol03:53
dondopaGood to see you fine sorcerers have a good sense of humour03:53
riccroucherek: hope that helped...04:00
erekriccrouch: working on it04:01
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riccroucherek: were you able to at least access phpmyadmin?04:02
erekriccrouch: http://pool-141-158-220-229.altnpa.east.verizon.net/phpmyadmin/04:04
erekriccrouch: try it04:04
john_doe_jrI'm trying to build from source but I'm getting errors and they scroll too fast…how do I reroute the errors on the console to a file or something?04:07
riccroucherek: seems to be working... but without the username and password (WHICH YOU SHOULD **NOT*** GIVE OUT ON IRC!) there's not much to see from here.04:07
riccroucherek: From there, just enter the username and password for your mysql user and away you go.04:08
sandman13what would be the best downloader for ubuntu? It must support resume and should act as a download accelerator.04:08
erekhmm04:08
erekriccrouch: let me create you an account if i can figure it out04:09
trismjohn_doe_jr: you can use &> in bash to get both stderr and stdout04:12
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john_doe_jrtrism: so I would use &> to a file?04:20
erekriccrouch: http://pool-141-158-220-229.altnpa.east.verizon.net/phpmyadmin/  username = ric, password = test04:20
MarGulHi I have just unstalled ubuntu server 12.04 and I have changed ip address to static (been pinging it from my laptop and I know its connected to my network). Then I installed nginx running the command aptitude install nginx. The version of nginx is 1.5.6. When I then, on my laptop, type in my servers ip address in my webbrowser I get nothing. following this manual(http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/11/how-to-set-up-a-safe-and-secure-04:21
MarGulweb-server/2/)04:21
Eliyahu`how do i set the refresh rate in ubuntu 13.1004:22
Eliyahu`i need to sync my monitor to 48hz or 72hz for video recording live on set04:22
zykotick9Eliyahu`: are you using an LCD?04:22
Eliyahu`yes04:23
Eliyahu`im using LED sorry04:23
vocxjohn_doe_jr, for example "make program &> my_file"04:23
Eliyahu`i also want to remove the mirror screens icon thats popping up04:24
vocxEliyahu`, LED is just the illumination source, but probably your screen is an LCD (lit by LEDs and not fluorescent lamps).04:24
Eliyahu`yes then its a LCD04:24
Eliyahu`vocx:  its Westinghouse UW40TC1W 40-Inch 1080p 120Hz LED HDTV04:25
Eliyahu`vocx:  im trying to sync it to a canon XL1 video recording camera because i have a studio set and im running visual through ubuntu desktop04:27
Eliyahu`vocx:  the video display through that westinghouse monitor on the set will be recorded by the canon xl` and i need to sync the refresh rates04:27
erekhey guys can you test out phpmyadmin for me?04:27
vocxEliyahu`, no idea04:27
Eliyahu`vocx:  where is the linux video community?04:28
httphateall dead04:28
ObrienDaveEliyahu`, a screen recording software would not do the same thing?04:29
Eliyahu`ObrienDave:  what do you mean04:29
Eliyahu`ObrienDave:  im displaying imagry and video onto the studio sets 40 inch monitor live for video production like news anchor04:29
ObrienDaveo i c04:30
Eliyahu`i got a 20 foot green screen behind the studio desk which has the 40 inch minotor on the desk04:30
Eliyahu`im shooting the set live and need to sync the refresh rate from the monitor to the camera04:30
vocxEliyahu`, what you basically is to avoid the flashing of the screen once you record? I have no idea if the refresh rate of the screen can be arbitrarily adjusted. I don't think that's the case, only a few frequencies would be available. But seems you know more about video than me anyway.04:31
Eliyahu`adjustign the rrefresh rate in ubuntu wont matter then will it if the monitor produces 120hz refresh rate right?04:32
LordeHello04:34
vocxEliyahu`, Right. I mean, that's controlled by the electronics in the monitor. I guess it is not intended for people to change it just because they want.04:34
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ObrienDaveerek, seems to login ok04:35
Eliyahu`vocx:  my HD Canon Rebel t5i im recording with right now just did a test shot works on the current system but my canon xlr didnt04:35
arooni-mobileis this compatible with ubuntu: WD My Passport Ultra 1TB Portable External Hard Drive USB 3.004:36
arooni-mobile?04:36
Eliyahu`vocx:  Thanks for your help and time though God bless you04:36
ObrienDavearooni-mobile, "compatable" how?04:38
arooni-mobileObrienDave, i want to buy an external drive from blakc friday deals04:38
arooni-mobilebut i want to make sure it works with my ubuntu only laptop04:38
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cfhowlett!hardware|arooni-mobile,04:39
ubottuarooni-mobile,: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection04:39
erekhow?04:40
erekheh04:40
ereki've never gotten into that, riccrouch04:41
vocxarooni-mobile, in general, an external hard drive works fine with any Linux distribution. It's a fairly simple device. It just needs FAT or NTFS file system. And if you don't plan on using it on Windows you can reformat it to Ext4 file system or other file system that Linux can use.04:42
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MarGulHi I have just unstalled ubuntu server 12.04 and I have changed ip address to static (been pinging it from my laptop and I know its connected to my network). Then I installed nginx running the command aptitude install nginx. The version of nginx is 1.5.6. When I then, on my laptop, type in my servers ip address in my webbrowser I get "unable to connect" instead of my default index.html. Someone have any suggestions?04:52
trelaneI'm running an old toshiba laptop, I just upgraded to 13.10, and don't have unity.  I've run unity_support_test -c -p and unity_support_test -p and am green across the board.  I don't have an xorg.conf, and have only two errors related to not being able to load fglrx (which this chipset doesn't need) in xorg.0.og04:59
MarGulgot it to work. Forgot to start up nginx. The command service nginx start did the trick05:01
bergawell gnight peeps05:07
cfhowletttrelane, old equipment?  xubuntu or lubuntu are recommended05:09
trelanecfhowlett, realizing that, this should work as everything is greenlit, and opengl is supported, the problem is the opengl module isn't loading when xorg starts05:09
erekwhat the hell05:09
erekdid one of you guys screw over my mysql server?05:10
trelaneselect * from no where no equals no;05:10
trelanealso, no.05:10
kkkkkkkhi all, i am using sakis 3g to connect to internet, because modem manager is too slow to detect my modem, it takes few minutes to detect, sometimes it doesn't detect, then i need to re-insert modem, and all, i want to automate sakis 3g connection, everytime i start sakis 3g, it asks for password, i solved it using /etc/sudoers file, but i want that it does not ask for username and password for dial up connection, because most of times, In India, all operators 05:11
kkkkkkkhow to do that05:11
kkkkkkkhow to set custom_Pass varibale in sakis3g05:11
cfhowletttrelane, unity really doesn't run well on old boxes.  the easy fix is to boot to the command line, run sudo apt-get install lxde and sudo apt-get install xfce4  then login to one or the other05:11
kkkkkkkand custom user also05:11
trelanecfhowlett, this is a dual core box with 4gb of ram, and a dedicated video card.05:12
xmetal!lubuntu05:12
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.05:12
kkkkkkktrelane: unity has still problems like crashing on Ubuntu 12.04, bla bla, i suggest you to use KDE or Lxde, according to your need,05:13
cfhowletttrelane, it "should run"!  but until you figure out why unity if fragging, you might consider a non-unity desktop environment.05:13
cfhowletttrelane, if I had to guess, I'd start with eyeing the video card...05:14
kkkkkkktrelane: KDE is also fine, if you were a windows user, you will not feel something different in GUI, except performance and stability05:14
xmetalunity runs fine on my AMD 4GB RAM "2009 laptop"05:14
trelanekkkkkkk, I'm a gentoo user.  I'm just trying to get this box to work for a friend, how do I get ubuntu to switch from fglrx to the opensource driver05:15
dondopakkk05:15
trelanexmetal, which video card and are you using fglrx?05:15
kkkkkkkhow to set custom_PASS and custom_username variable in SAKIS 3G SCRIPT05:16
jmgkhi kkkkkkk05:18
kkkkkkktrelane: type additional in UNITY DASH> select ADDITIONAL DRIVERS> IF activated, then deactivate05:18
trelanekkkkkkk, how do I access this unity dash?05:19
trelane(keep in mind unity won't start)05:19
kkkkkkktrelane: press window button or click to top left button05:20
sandman13which is better? Clam AV or Avast05:20
kkkkkkktype in search box05:20
kkkkkkksandman13: no one is better05:20
ncrosbykkk, that would require unity to be started.05:20
sandman13why kkkkkkk05:21
kkkkkkksandman13: because i have tested both of them, even AVG05:21
xmetalI like Avast myself, though i feel this the wrong channel for that question05:22
kkkkkkksandman13: better not to use anyone of them, let your system run smoothley, they will just aquire some space on your hard drive05:22
sandman13so what would be the choice? install none05:22
xmetal"best" is a matter of opinion05:22
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xmetalno AV is not the answer if you ask me but this is a question related to a different OS05:22
xmetal(OT is otherwards)05:23
cfhowlettkkkkkkk, eh?  the amount of space required by either of those programs is trivial05:23
kkkkkkksandman13: if you are much more curios, use dual boot with windows, antivirus updates are provided more freq. to windows users and their detection is much better than them05:23
kkkkkkkthan linux AV05:23
* xmetal stops watching Khan Academy video05:24
sandman13i need a AV for basic protection05:24
xmetalwindows, sandman?05:24
cfhowlettsandman13, so install it on windows05:24
ncrosbytrelane; if Unity won't start, I tend to have to reinstall the system. You may be able to work your way around it, but for me that would almost take more time.05:24
kkkkkkkLinux is already, secure from windows viruses05:24
cfhowlett!virus05:25
ubottuAntivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus05:25
xmetali'd (yes i kjnow this is ot for this channel) go with Avast05:25
kkkkkkktrelane: yes, it will take much much more time,05:25
trelaneI'm going to work around it, thanks05:25
xmetalnothing is perfect .. ."best" anything is a matter of opnion like i said05:25
cfhowlett!best05:27
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.05:27
trelanelets try a custom xorg.conf05:27
sandman13i read somewhere that malwares still affect linux boxes05:28
trelanesandman13, malware != virus, please look at something like rkhunter if you suspect a rootkit (hint, you probably don't have one)05:29
sandman13ah here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicSecurity05:29
Beldar!av | sandman1305:30
ubottusandman13: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus05:30
sandman13read that Beldar but thanks anyway05:30
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Beldarah did not see above my prompt05:31
kkkkkkksandman13: use bit-defender, it is easy to update and has better GUI05:32
kkkkkkksandman13: if you like to use AV05:32
sandman13kkkkkkk: is it registration free?05:32
kkkkkkksandman13: no, just give your email id, they will give it to you for 1 year05:33
* xmetal gives up05:34
kkkkkkksandman13: you may use seconday ID, tertiory ID for that :D05:34
m-abhijit!packageinfo ruby05:34
sandman13kkkkkkk: does these antivirus updates are based on Window's malware?05:35
kkkkkkksandman13: i installed it, sometimes, you may face problems during updates, if you are using a proxy server, LINUX version and updates are always given less priority over windows versions05:36
kkkkkkki suspect you will get same updates05:36
sandman13okay05:36
kkkkkkkask Bit defender about the same05:36
santhosh_hai what is the free type05:38
santhosh_hai what is the free type05:38
tsquar3dHey, I am trying to run a 32-bit game on my 64-bit system and I keep getting this error: libvorbisfile.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:39
tsquar3dI am not finding a whole lot for solutions on the googles, so... yeah, any ideas?05:39
santhosh_waht is the use of free type05:40
xmetalgood greif05:40
vocxtsquar3d, what game? Isn't there a 64 bit version available? In Linux you usually can find both versions because source can be recompiled.05:41
tsquar3dHey vocx, it's hotline miami. Unfortunately, the source is closed.05:42
luserHello!05:43
meddyhey I can't update my ubuntu system I tried selecting the best servers and clearing my PPA but nothing work05:44
luserI just installed ubuntu studio 13.10 (xfce 4.10 DE). In the notification applet area there is a speaker with 3 dashes next to it. It is greyed out and if clicked has nothing to display save a small empty text box. What is this? How can I link it to pule audio mixer?05:45
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meddyanyone?05:53
lotuspsychjemeddy: what ubuntu version are you on?05:59
meddy130.1005:59
meddy13.1005:59
lotuspsychjemeddy: whats the error you getting when try to update?05:59
meddythat I don't have internet conenction05:59
lotuspsychjemeddy: and do you have?06:00
meddyyes I do06:00
lotuspsychjemeddy: are you on wifi or eth0 cable06:02
meddywifi06:02
lotuspsychjemeddy: can you try put the eth cable in to try update?06:02
meddytried06:02
meddymy internet works just fine06:03
lotuspsychjemeddy: can you pastebin this error you have on update06:03
meddyok06:04
VedritHey. I need some hlep. I'm trying to get ASP.net pages to work on my server, and I've loaded in mono, but anyone that connects to an .aspx page, they get a 503 error. HTML or PHP pages load fine06:04
unicornjedihello, I have a multitude of broken ppas after upgrading to saucy. Is there a quick way to remove them?06:04
unicornjediVedrit, go to ##networking channel06:05
Vedritoh, okay06:05
unicornjediVedrit, :)06:05
lotuspsychjeunicornjedi: remove them out of software sources?06:05
meddyit just says06:06
meddyfailed to download repository information06:06
unicornjedilotuspsychje, I have about 15 to get rid of. Is there a nifty command to remove the ppas?06:06
lotuspsychje!ppa | unicornjedi maybe here?06:06
ubottuunicornjedi maybe here?: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:06
unicornjedilotuspsychje, will ppa-purge remove my applications wholly?06:07
lotuspsychjeunicornjedi: not sure about that, never done myself06:07
unicornjedi!ppa-purge06:07
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html06:07
lotuspsychjemeddy: http://itsfoss.com/failed-to-download-repository-information-ubuntu-13-04/06:08
unicornjedihmm thats doesnt sound pleasant....06:08
unicornjedii guess I'll remove them manually06:08
meddyi have already followed it06:08
meddyit won't let me reload the list06:09
lotuspsychjemeddy: did you try a sudo apt-get update?06:10
meddyyup06:10
meddydoens't work06:10
lotuspsychjemeddy: sudo apt-get clean?06:11
lotuspsychjemeddy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/141512/how-to-resolve-failed-to-download-repository-information06:12
meddywill try06:13
lotuspsychjeanyway bbl, good luck!06:14
_root_for IP Aliasing: both Ip should have the same MAC address?06:14
meddywhe ni get the06:14
meddyapt get clean command nothing happen06:15
xavihi06:17
xavibye06:17
Beldarmeddy, Go through that askubuntu link it has the general fixes to try.06:17
meddyI tried all 3 suggestion06:18
meddydoesn't work!06:18
Beldarmeddy, You changed the repo?06:18
meddywhat you mean06:19
Beldarmeddy, read the link06:19
meddyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6497666/06:20
meddydid you see my pastebin?06:22
Beldarmeddy, run cd /etd/apt/sources.list and pastebin all the info.06:23
Beldar cd /etc/apt/sources.list06:23
meddyno such file or file or directory?06:24
Beldarmeddy, cd /etc/apt/sources.list06:24
BeldarI made a mistake on the first06:24
meddynot a directory06:24
Beldarmeddy, try sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     be careful when you open it it can be edited06:27
meddypastebin everything?06:28
Beldarmeddy, Yes06:28
vocxmeddy, Beldar, no need to use sudo.  The file will be read only.06:28
Beldarvocx, we may need to edit it I think his cd is not off06:29
meddyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6497694/06:29
WiGusthello. Why resizing windows doesn't work in kwin tiling mode?06:30
Beldarmeddy this is an installed ubuntu correct?06:30
meddyyep06:30
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Beldarmeddy, Put a # in front of deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 13.10 _Saucy Salamander_ - Release amd64 (20131016.1)]/ saucy main restricted06:31
Danihola06:31
Danialguien me puede ayudar en una cosa porfa vor06:31
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somsipBeldar: if this is the same error as he had yesterday, he's removed a load of PPAs but there are still some CDROM:// sources that need to be commented out. I wasn't sure how to do this using Software Centre and had no time to explain how to edit it by hand. Just in case that helps06:31
Guest43474para conectarme al terra desde aqui?06:32
Beldarmeddy, In the file you opened hit save and try a update at least again now.06:32
Beldarsomsip, thanks, any info helps. ;)06:32
meddyi think it works but says it up to date but i find it hard to belive it actually is06:34
Beldarmeddy, What you commented out was for the sources to read a cd, on an install that should be this way.06:35
Eliyahu`any one else having issues with updates not going through and failing right now?06:36
meddywhat you mean06:36
Beldarmeddy, why do you find this hard to believe?06:36
meddyit been over a week06:36
Eliyahu`us.archive.ubuntu.com isnt working for updating06:37
pavel_Eliyahu : I got problem with updates going through and screwing up the graphical interface06:37
BeldarEliyahu`, What release are you running?06:37
Eliyahu`ubuntu 13.1006:38
Hilikushow can i create a pam rule to check if a connection is from within my lan?06:38
Eliyahu`0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:106:38
Eliyahu`this hapened in terminal and synaptic package manager06:39
Eliyahu`trying to install openshot06:39
pavel_why do you have us.blablah ?06:39
pavel_I just have archive.ubuntu.com06:39
pavel_and it works06:39
BeldarEliyahu`, Try changing the repo, I have had no update problems, or installs.06:40
Eliyahu`Beldar:  how do i change repo06:40
jmgkhello06:41
jmgk:D06:41
Eliyahu`jmgk:  :D06:41
meddyi just switched to best server selected and i get this ...http://paste.ubuntu.com/6497731/06:41
BeldarEliyahu`, run software-properties-gtk  and in first tab change the download from06:41
meddystill doesn't work06:42
Eliyahu`Beldar:  found it right before you typed thanks06:42
Eliyahu`E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the libdc1394-22 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package.06:42
Beldarmeddy, You have either not commented out what I told you to, or have a cd link in sources.list.d06:43
pfifowhy does my USB drive keep acting like its unplugging and plugging, i cant even get a format on it, and once I did every couple of files that gets transferred it decides to fail06:43
meddywell i'm sorry i'm pretty lost06:43
Beldarmeddy, Anyway I have to go do a nightly job, I will be gone for about 45 min.06:43
meddyok06:44
Beldarmeddy, run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and put a # in front of the first line at the top and hit save and try the update again.06:44
Eliyahu`whats the terminal command to give version information06:45
pfifolsb_release06:45
ianorlinlsb_release06:45
Eliyahu`thanks06:46
Eliyahu`desktop:~$ lsb_releaseNo LSB modules are available."06:46
Eliyahu`lsb_release -a06:49
Eliyahu`;)06:49
Eliyahu`for some reason my ubuntu is printing 12.0406:49
Eliyahu`it should be 13.1006:49
Eliyahu`>=(06:49
jmgkhi all06:53
AceBlade258I can't see a program after I launch it,06:56
AceBlade258*.06:56
AceBlade258the program is filebot from the software center06:56
AceBlade258got06:59
AceBlade258*got it06:59
AceBlade258it started way offscreen06:59
airgnoxa07:03
bl4ckdu5tIs there a way to make a transparent background for nautilus07:03
BeldarEliyahu`, What does the sources.list say precise or saucy?07:04
Eliyahu`Beldar:  i thought i had downloded the 13.10 iso for install07:04
Eliyahu`Beldar:  i may have accidently downloaded the 12.04?07:04
BeldarEliyahu`, The ubuntu main  site, there is a problem with it giving you the right ISO.07:05
bl4ckdu5tHow do i change the background of nautilus to transparent as with terminal?07:09
Beldarbl4ckdu5t, Might be the answer. http://askubuntu.com/questions/5151/can-i-set-up-nautilus-to-use-transparent-background07:13
Eliyahu`Beldar:  i was tricked into the wrong iso07:16
Eliyahu`Beldar:  i feel betrayed07:17
dowaatEliyahu`: ISO's tend to be pretty well labeled, friend. Please assure you read carefully before taking steps.07:17
airgnoxa07:17
Eliyahu`dowaat:  :P07:17
BeldarEliyahu`, Better ask for your money back. ;)07:18
Eliyahu`Beldar:  is the site stll giving out the wrong ISO ?07:20
Eliyahu`is the GUI the same with 12.04 LTS and 13.10 ?07:21
Eliyahu`i hadnt used ubuntu since gutsy gibeon07:21
BeldarEliyahu`There are downloads on the web beside those and others download links on the main site.07:21
cfhowlettEliyahu`, yes: unity07:21
Eliyahu`cfhowlett:  they both appear the same i see by some screen shots07:21
cfhowlettEliyahu`, so ... asked and answered your question?07:22
BeldarEliyahu`, 12.04 has 5 years support.07:22
Eliyahu`cfhowlett:  i read your answer and checked screen shots07:22
Eliyahu`with all the ubuntu errors with downloading the right ISO they should make it free07:23
Eliyahu`:P07:23
* Eliyahu` elbows Beldar07:23
Beldarouch07:26
Beldar;)07:26
jmgkhey07:27
VedritAnyone know if there is a channel for MONO support?07:28
nezZarioThis is really annoying07:30
nezZariofor one, my motd always says there is a new release available 13.10 but I ran this last night and did the upgrade07:30
nezZario(i guess it completed)07:30
nezZariowhen i type it again, it says ther eis no release available07:30
cfhowlettnezZario, apt-get upgrade will not upgrade your release07:30
Beldar!alis | Vedrit07:32
ubottuVedrit: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*07:32
nezZarioi didn't say it would07:32
nezZarioi typed do-release-upgrade like the motd keeps telling me to07:32
nezZarioit done a bunch of stuff, i went to sleep07:32
nezZarioit keeps telling me07:32
vocx!enter | nezZario07:34
ubottunezZario: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:34
nezZarioalso, keeps telling me /usr/bin/xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/MYUSER/.Xauthority07:37
nezZarioI did some googling, none4 of it really helped.  I rm'd the file.. No go, .. A few things said it needed to be owned by 'machine' user?  No go.  Just really annoying, also it seems the previous deal about the .Xauthority file hangs my logins for 3-4 secs .. The machine is local over a LAN, previously it logged in basically instantly07:39
vocxnezZario, I don't have much experience with troubleshooting, but I remember whenever you have problems with Xauthority it indicates a problem with permissions, like a broken update and stuff. I've never had such issue, it's just what I hear.07:40
nezZarioLooks like doing apt-get update + upgrade might fix the issue07:46
nezZarioI think the do-release-upgrade may of not of finished .. Should've ran it in screen07:46
cfhowlettnezZario, upgrade and dist-release are NOT the same command.07:46
helmut_hi07:48
nezZarioI didn't do dist-release.  Can you give me some context as to how that relates to apt-get update+upgrade?  I only ran do-release-upgrade so the motd would stop bugging me about it07:48
shadejhi07:50
shadejI am installing j2ee on ubuntu07:50
shadejgetting this error "/j2eesdk-1_4_03-linux_2.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:50
shadej"07:50
cfhowlettnezZario, easier to send you the ubuntu cheat sheet07:50
shadejI did "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" but no change07:51
vocxshadej, do you want to compile something in Java or just use Java?07:51
cfhowlettnezZario, OK the .pdf and read07:51
nezZarioWhen I ran the upgrade, it actually failed and told me to run dpkg --configure -a which seems to be fifinishing the process.. /seems/ to be07:51
shadejvocx: I want to use jms(which uses j2ee)07:51
vocxshadej, what is that?07:52
shadejvocx: jms=>java messaging service. I want to use it to implement publish/subscribe and ppp [clinet-server class]07:53
shadejvocx: *pp07:53
DoubleMintxCan someone here help me with an install problem? My keyboard is not being recognized whether I have my keyboard set to 6 key rollover or N key rollover.07:54
shadejj2ee users on ubuntu?07:56
vocxshadej, I see there are some packages including something about jms in the repositories. Have you tried installing those before?07:56
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vocxshadej, you seem to be trying to install something from the sources. I think that is not a good idea. Most developing tools and libraries are available from the repositories.07:57
vocx!ubottu | shadej I install the JDK first, and see if that includes the jms libraries that you need07:58
ubottushadej I install the JDK first, and see if that includes the jms libraries that you need: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots07:58
vocxshadej, I did "aptitude search jms" and some additional packages are shown like "libspring-jms-java", "libjboss-jms-java"07:59
shadejvocx: ok let me check again07:59
Vinnie_winIs there an easy way for me to upgrade my gcc to the latest stable version on my Ubuntu virtual box?08:00
vocxshadej, by the way, I messed up the ubottu message08:00
Vinnie_winI already have an older one installed.08:00
vocx!ubottu | shadej08:00
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vocx!java | shadej08:00
ubottushadej: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.08:00
vocxshadej, LOL, I did it again, but the last one worked, sorry for spamming.08:01
shadejvocx: I have installed java and even I have eclipse08:01
vocxVinnie_win, which version you have?08:01
vocxVinnie_win, why would you want the most recent version?08:02
Vinnie_winvocx: I managed to write c++ code that blows up gcc 4.7.308:02
nezZariogood l ord08:02
Vinnie_winvocx: And I want as much c++11  support as I can muster08:02
meddysosip: are you there?08:02
Vinnie_winvoc: In my defense I said the latest "stable" version :-)08:02
nezZarioalso, anyone have any idea why very ocassionally, grub doesn't auto-boot after a timeout?  it's the darndest thing.  my ubuntu box here is a headless machine, I use it as a router/gateway for the rest of my network08:03
Alpha-OmegaCan I ask why when you're installing a minimal install with the minimal CD of Ubuntu, things such as Python are installed?08:03
Vinnie_winWhat happens to the older version of gcc and the older version of the standard libraries when I issue "sudo apt-get install gcc-4.8" after adding the PPA?08:03
vocxVinnie_win, my latest is 4.8.1, I'm running Ubuntu 13.10, what are you running?08:04
nezZarioonce and a while, my netowrk seems to loose internet.  every time, i have to unplug a monitor from a normal workstation, plug it up, and it's stuck at the grub boot screen.  i have to unplug a keyboard, and press 'enter'08:04
vocxAlpha-Omega, you mean without GUI? Perhaps there are a few scripts that depend on Python. And probably the base version of Python is small enough, like 20 MB, perhaps.08:05
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: python is pretty minimal.  you can probably force remove it if you really don't want it, but I think some nonessential but fairly important scripts might rely on them08:05
Alpha-Omegavocx: It's the base install08:05
Alpha-OmeganezZario: It's just that I did base install, X server, i3 and I was at 9xx MB, during the install Python was just one of the packages I saw.08:06
Alpha-OmegaIs there a link that shows what all the base packages that come installed are?08:06
nezZarioI can see the confusion there, I'm not sure why it would offer it to you as an option if it was already in the base08:07
vocxVinnie_win, I don think anything will happen to the old compiler. After all, compilers are more or less independent. You will have double tools, and double libraries, depending on the versions, so it should be fine.08:07
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: It looks like some pretty important things are python, namely do-release-upgrade, etc.  if you have a working ubuntu box somewhere try "file /usr/bin/* | grep Python"08:09
vocxAlpha-Omega, I think in Ubuntu many things are tied in by Python, almost like a substitute Bash.08:10
nezZarioReally the only important thing I see is do-release-upgrade08:11
Vinnie_winvocx: When I install gcc 4.8.2 will the apt-get mechanism change all the necessary configuration files and settings so that the new gcc and standard libraries are the "current toolchain?"08:12
nezZarioBut none the less, you probably want it.. ;)08:12
Vinnie_winor is that what update-alternatives is for?08:12
Alpha-OmeganezZario: pastebin.com/vQa6BV4r08:13
vocxVinnie_win, I think so. But then again, during compilation it is you who chose the compiler in a makefile for example. Perhaps the only thing the installer will do is change the symlink to /usr/bin/gcc to the newest one.08:13
Vinnie_winmy build system expects the symlink I guess, because I see no mention of version.08:13
Vinnie_winBut after issuing "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gcc gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.8 50", "gcc --version" still shows 4.7.308:13
Alpha-OmegaWould be nice if all distributions provided a page with a listing of all base install packages08:14
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: Yeah, I mean I was just demonstrating that's all what relies on Python in that directory.  I didn't need your pastebin :)08:14
Alpha-OmeganezZario: ohh ok :)08:14
Vinnie_winAfter running update-alternatives, etc/alternatives/gcc still points to the old one08:14
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: You could install it and then list out the packages08:14
Alpha-OmeganezZario: yeah, I guess you're right08:14
Alpha-OmegaOne more question, when you have a liveCD and do things like updates which are more than the amount of ram you have, or download a file that's larger than the amount of ram you have, where are these files stored? How is it even possible to download these files or do these updates?08:16
vocxVinnie_win, I guess you can change the symlink yourself.08:17
nezZarioI don't think it would download that much stuff, Alpha-Omega08:17
nf7Hi, if I set a /etc/crontab job to run a command as a specific user, will it run if the user isn't logged in?08:17
nezZarioAlso, it may do compressed RAM08:17
nezZarioOr a compressed ramdisk to be precise,08:18
buuAlpha-Omega: Unless you have swap on the disk or the livecd medium, you can't, etc.08:18
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-minimal that might help08:18
nezZarioI thought there was a base or base-files package or something, but that may be debian.  I only use ubuntu at home ...08:19
Alpha-OmeganezZario buu so would older files disappear when new ones were downloaded and your ram usage was completely used up08:19
nezZarioI have no idea, .. Test it out?  Maybe they changed the apt utils to do 'clean' to rm the tarballs after use since I don't think apt does it on it's own .. I really have no idea I don't use live cd's on a regular basis08:20
vocxAlpha-Omega, I think you are not able to download "new" files since there is no space left?08:20
nezZarioI mean yeah, I'm sure you'll get an out of disk issue if there isn't anywhere to put it.. It isn't going to defy physical limitations08:21
nezZarioNor would it willingly write to a disk unless you tell it to in some shape or form08:21
Alpha-Omegaohh ok, thanks08:22
Alpha-OmegaInteresting, minimal install shows about 700 packages installed08:23
Alpha-Omega"dpkg --list | wc" sure is helpful :)08:23
Alpha-Omega"dpkg --list | wc -l"*08:24
Vinnie_winvocx: do I have to do some manual configuration to tell gcc where to find the new standard library or does a specific build of gcc know where to look for the standard includes and libraries?08:24
nezZarioAlpha-Omega: If you have time, I wouldn't mind seeing the list pastebin'd if you would /msg it to me08:25
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vocxVinnie_win, I think it's something like "gcc -std=c++11" or whatever the option is, and then it will use the standard, otherwise it may fall back to C9908:26
Vinnie_winvocx: No...thats not what I mean. Each gcc brings with it, its own set of header files and static/dynamic libraries for the standard C++ library. How does the compiler/linker know which directroy in the file system to look for the matching headers?08:28
Vinnie_winIs that something I have to set up or does the executable just "know" beacuse it uses its name to build the path?08:28
Vinnie_winI already manually created the link in /etc/alternatives08:28
vocxVinnie_win, I think the executable just knows where to look. It's magic. I've never done any configuration at least, just run gcc.08:29
Vinnie_winThats music to my ears.08:30
Vinnie_winexecpt that now when I build, gcc cries that "cc1" cannot be found.08:30
Vinnie_winmaybe something else I need to manually symlink08:30
vocxVinnie_win, which Linux have you used before? You seem to not be familiar with the Buntu ways.08:30
Vinnie_winvocx: I use Windows but in my defense I learned C on my own purey from the K&R book and on a Unix mainframe via dilup.08:31
Vinnie_win*dialup.08:31
vocxVinnie_win, cc1 is the preprocessor? I'm a bit rusty myself.08:31
Vinnie_winAnd you're right I'm not familiar with the Ubuntu ways. I only switch to my Ubunty virtual box so I can compile there and run the unit tests to make sure I didnt break anything. I do my main development in Windows.08:31
Vinnie_winAfter I manually update the symlink I noticed it looked different. Let me study it again.08:32
Vinnie_winOkay, here's the difference. Originally, ls -la in /etc/alternatives showed gcc -> gcc 4.7.1 something08:32
Vinnie_winNow, it shows gcc (both in green). I guess I screwed up the link08:32
Vinnie_winI used ln /usr/lib/gcc-4.8 gcc    from the /etc/alternatives dir. Did i Need some flags to ln ?08:33
Vinnie_winmaybe I did hard instead of symbolic08:34
vocxVinnie_win, like "ln -s", I always forget the options of "ln", so I do a "man ln" everytime.08:34
Vinnie_winYeah. I did ln -- help. But that doesn't really give me that much when I dont know what I'm supposed to be doing anyway (lol)08:35
_root_I have to add my first IP to my VPS this way http://paste.ubuntu.com/6497998/ and because of that I cant get the eth0:0 to IP alias. could you give me a clue as to what should I do to get eth0:0 working08:35
vocxVinnie_win,  By the way, I would recommend the Programming Talk in the Ubuntuforums.org. You can learn a few trick by hanging out there.08:35
wlightning_as of 13.10, my laptop appears to boot in airplane mode every boot, is there a way to change the default or have it use the last state?08:35
Vinnie_winvocx: That's a forum and not IRC right?08:36
vocxVinnie_win, Yep. Quite useful too.08:36
Vinnie_winOh! I can read that while I wait. Thanks.08:36
vocxVinnie_win, I don't have a /etc/alternatives/gcc. My /usr/bin/gcc points to /usr/bin/gcc-4.8, so I would change the symlink there, but not sure for you.08:37
Vinnie_winI was able to fix the symlink after I learned the proper pronunciation and intonations and hand gestures.08:37
Vinnie_winsuccess!!! woohoo08:38
rasajerukwhy08:38
vocxVinnie_win, lol.08:38
Vinnie_winrasajeruk: You talkin to me?08:38
rasajerukyeah08:38
Vinnie_winoh man...I want to scream now.08:38
Vinnie_winSo....the same code that was making gcc 4.7.1 blow up is now crashing 4 8!!!!!08:39
maxiaojunany gui man page viewer for ubuntu 12.04+ ?08:40
vocxVinnie_win, to use the latest standard, you definitely need to add some switches, like g++ --std=c++0x or something. I've read that before. Otherwise the compiler uses the previous, more stable, standard.08:40
Vinnie_winvocx: Yeah, I have all that in my build file. The problem is that some new template code I wrote is somehow making the compiler CRASH08:41
Vinnie_winI'm trying to narrow it down to a reproducible code sample.08:41
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Alpha-Omeganetsplit?08:45
shadejhow to install j2ee on ubuntu?08:55
vocxshadej, Are you sure it's not the JDK that you already installed?08:59
shadejvocx: yeah09:00
vocxshadej, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1254944 It says in that thread that J2EE is a specification not an actual program. It says that Sun's implementation is Glassfish which is in the repos. have you tried installing that?09:03
vocxp   glassfish-javaee                                 - Open source Java EE 5 Application Server09:05
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afidegnumhi all, anyone familiar with zoneminder? I am stucked here I need hand09:21
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: best is to shoot your specific issue in chat here mate09:22
afidegnumok, thanks, I am trying to set up an online video surveillance using zoneminder09:22
afidegnumthe video will be stored into a vps server09:22
afidegnumbut will be recorded from an end house, i.e. home, office09:23
afidegnumand streamed to the remote server.09:23
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: and you are stuck where exaclty?09:23
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: you need a howto to config this layout?09:24
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afidegnumyes, with few questions,09:25
afidegnumfirst, I have an IP camera09:25
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: i see freenode has a #zoneminder channel mate, maybe they might help you on the road :p09:25
afidegnumhow do I need a desktop app which will help stream the video to zm server09:26
afidegnumI am there and no one is responding09:26
cloneGhello, trying to download a torrent with firefox I get this popup: http://postimg.org/image/48n84wx77/ how am I supposed to choose bittorrent in ubuntu 12.04?09:27
richf\window close09:28
lotuspsychjecloneG: right mouse click on a torrent and choose application transmission as default09:28
lotuspsychjecloneG: or in firefox choose default app transmission09:28
lotuspsychjecloneG: or browse manually to transmission-gtk09:29
cloneGlotuspsychje: path to transmission-gtk?09:29
cloneGlotuspsychje: where are usually all applications in ubuntu stored? I cant find much at usr/bin09:30
lotuspsychjecloneG: try usr/share/applications09:31
cloneGlotuspsychje: thanks09:31
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lotuspsychjeafidegnum: did you find the http:// zoneminder web config?09:32
cloneGlotuspsychje: not there09:32
afidegnumno09:32
afidegnumyou mean on /zm ?09:33
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: after you installed zm it has a webadress to config it all i think09:34
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: http://www.zoneminder.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu09:34
afidegnumok09:35
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: open zoneminder in webbrowser: http://serverip/zm09:36
afidegnumok,09:36
lotuspsychjecloneG: on wich ubuntu version are you?09:36
lotuspsychjecloneG: transmission should be installed by default..09:36
afidegnumI was reading you can stream video from vlc to zoneminder, how possible?09:37
afidegnumcan you provide a link to that?09:37
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: you can open an url with vlc, thats correct.. never tryed it with a specific zoneminder ip server yet09:37
cloneGlotusspsychje: 12.04, but I dont know where default applications executables are stored if any09:38
afidegnumthat's where I am confused09:38
afidegnumso is zoneminder which streams the videos to vlc or the other way round?09:44
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: not sure mate, never done it myself..but i think you need the ip of your vps/passwords09:44
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: the vps will stream the url to vlc, vlc is just the client that will show it09:45
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: unless you want stream from your own machine, where the video recording happens?09:46
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: the vps will then only be used to store the video's09:46
afidegnumyes, that's what I am looking for09:46
afidegnumexactly09:46
afidegnumThat's what I want to do.09:46
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: then you need your own internal ip zoneminder server to stream url to vlc09:47
afidegnumbecause i don't have enough processing resources, I need to do that from the end pc,09:47
afidegnumthen store the video to the VPC so I can view or play them when I am away, online09:47
forte....09:47
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: try http://127.0.0.1/zm09:47
afidegnumso meaning vlc will be available online to stream the videos right ?09:48
afidegnumand I want to have a multi-user setup as well,09:48
afidegnumdifferent user with different videos09:48
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: you can do both ways...stream url's with vlc on remote, and stream them localy from your machine09:49
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: maybe the #vlc guys can give you a hand howto do it properly09:49
afidegnumok09:49
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: but i would start with own http zoneminder config09:50
afidegnumok, let me get this clearer, on the desktop, I install zoneminder there, stream video to a VPS serer having also zoneminder?09:51
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: no its not realy streaming to the vps, only use vps to store recorded video's09:52
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: unless you actually want an online server all the way?09:53
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: and not use your own machine09:53
afidegnumno09:53
afidegnumI want to store the recorded videos there09:53
ram_thor09:54
afidegnumlotuspsychje: I can use zoneminder to save the videos remotely right?09:55
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: normally yes, its all about how you config it09:55
afidegnumok09:56
afidegnummeaning i Have to use a different applications to play the video files online09:56
afidegnumam I right ?09:56
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: depending on how your vps will show those video files, you can stream then in a browser09:57
afidegnumok09:58
afidegnumI understand09:58
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: but we are getting a bit offtopic from ubuntu here09:58
afidegnumyes, I know, please bear with me for that09:58
lotuspsychjeafidegnum: try to config your ubuntu zm correctly and it will be great09:58
afidegnumok09:59
ovrflw0xerror while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:59
ovrflw0xwhat's new name for ia32-libs on ubuntu 13.10?10:00
lotuspsychje!find ia3210:01
ubottuFound: grub-efi-ia32, grub-efi-ia32-bin, grub-efi-ia32-dbg, lsb-core, lsb-cxx, lsb-desktop, lsb-graphics, lsb-languages, lsb-multimedia, lsb-printing (and 2 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ia32&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all10:01
ovrflw0xlotuspsychje: ?10:01
ThibultmolHi, I have a 'issue' with my ubuntu installation (13.10x64). When I boot up the brightness is at maximum but when I press the Fn key to increase the brightness it goes down to the maximum that ubuntu thinks is the maximum. How do I fix this?10:03
nf7How can I get /etc/crontab to run a script as if it is in the same working directory as the script?10:07
dptzillacd ?10:08
bekksnf7: in cron, you should never depend on relative paths, but always use absolute entries only.10:10
dptzillanf7:  cd /path ; ./Script.sh10:10
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anexim running the new virualbox and im on windows 7 x64 trying to run a ubuntu x64 iso but it just sits there after it counts to "0" but it will load 32 bit, any idea on how to run the x64?10:11
Beldaranex, There's a #vbox channel if you get no answer here.10:13
anex k thx10:13
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Guest91546How to remove launcher10:15
Beldaranex, here is some relative info though. http://askubuntu.com/questions/41550/how-do-i-run-a-64-bit-guest-in-virtualbox10:16
Guest91546How to remove lanucher from ubuntu desktop10:16
BeldarGuest91546, Is there a send to trash with a right click on it?10:19
Guest25800How to reset desktop setting on Ubuntu Linux 12.04.110:20
BeldarGuest25800, reset?10:21
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peturiphello10:22
BeldarGuest25800, you can reset unity and compiz, can you more specific?10:22
Beldarbe*10:22
mug896i have installed 13.10 64bit in my notebook but OS is randomly freezed during use ... im scared10:23
sandman13what would be the best downloader for ubuntu?10:24
Beldar!best | sandman1310:24
ubottusandman13: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.10:24
Beldarsandman13, Onboard you have the software center and apt-get10:25
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Beldarmug896, How much ram do you have?10:26
Xeno-GenesisI'm looking for someone who knows GTK+ enough to be dangerous to help me fix an Ubuntu bug10:28
Xeno-Genesisit's something that affects NetworkManager, I'm reading the code since a week ago and I'd like some guidance10:28
BeldarXeno-Genesis, This is support, is there a bug reported?10:29
Xeno-Genesissure10:29
Xeno-Genesislet me find it10:29
SASDOEguys i'm having trouble accessing my local server by it's domain name at home. i understand i need a loopback or another alternative. I was thinking i could change the computers local dns to one at the domain name registar10:30
ikoniaSASDOE: what you just said makes no sense10:30
SASDOEis that a good idea or just plain stupid? what happens now is whenever i access my website at it's domain name i reach my router's page.10:30
ikoniaSASDOE: why don't you just explain what's not working as you want10:31
Xeno-GenesisSASDOE, bug 117907010:31
ubottubug 1179070 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "nm-applet show wrong characters on Modem broadband connection and sometimes crash." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117907010:31
SASDOEikonia: sorry. Whenever I reach mywebsite.com, it works fine outside my network, but from inside my lan I reach my router, not the server hosting the website10:32
Xeno-GenesisSASDOE, it's quite easy to reproduce, I'm doing some debugging with Nevimer right now, but I'd like to get a GTK+ expert to help me out with a couple of questions10:32
ikoniaSASDOE: where is the server hosting the website ?10:32
SASDOEikonia: on my local network10:32
ikoniaSASDOE: so where does dns point to ?10:33
SASDOEikonia: not sure I understand. I would like to land on the same website wheter or not I am at home10:34
SASDOEXeno-Genesis: I am not sure that has anything to do with my problem, but thanks.10:34
ikoniaSASDOE: where is dns pointing your URL to10:34
SASDOEikonia: my home ip I believe.10:35
ikoniaSASDOE: so it's pointing at your public IP - which is bound to your router ?10:35
SASDOEikonia: I have told my router to redirect port 80 to the server though10:37
ikoniaSASDOE: right, so that's why it's not working10:37
ikoniaSASDOE: your router will redirect from the outside world, you're not hitting it from the outside world, which is why you get the router welcome page10:37
SASDOEikonia: what I don't understand is it used to work properly without a problem. Also now I have told the router that the server is called website.com, so souldn't the router send them straigt to the server?10:39
ikoniaSASDOE: no, it's port forwarding, not dns resolution10:40
ikoniaSASDOE: telling the router what the server is called means nothing10:40
ikoniaSASDOE: the best way to fix this simpley for you is to put an entry in your /etc/host file on your client10:40
SASDOEikonia: that would be a pain given I only own laptops that I constantly move around.10:41
ikoniaSASDOE: then you need to set up dns and routing properly10:41
SASDOEikonia: but the port forwarding works fine from the outside.. How can I fix it to work from the inside?10:42
ikoniaSASDOE: setup dns properly10:42
ikoniaSASDOE: or fix your router to act as a passthrough properly10:43
SASDOEikonia: router settings are not modifiable because of tv and voip settings10:43
ikoniaSASDOE: then you have a badly designed network10:44
ikoniaSASDOE: I'm assuming you don't manage the dns server hosting your domain10:44
SASDOEikonia: tell that to orange10:45
ikoniaSASDOE: errr what has it got to do with orange ?10:45
SASDOEikonia: no but I can, I think.10:45
ikoniaSASDOE: who owns/manages the dns server hosting your domain10:45
SASDOEikonia: it's their router that cannot have it's setting changed if I still want TV10:45
SASDOEikonia: I believe it's gandi, the domain registar I bough my domain from.10:46
ikoniaSASDOE: this problem has nothing to do with orange10:46
ikoniaSASDOE: ok, so who manages the dns for your local network10:46
SASDOEikonia: dns for my local network are enforced in the orange router. They cannot be modified.10:47
ikoniaactually, we are moving out of range for a realistic solution for you10:47
ikoniaSASDOE: talk to Orange then10:47
SASDOEikonia: that's what I figured.10:47
SASDOEikonia: so what I want is a loopback or pass-through?10:48
ikoniano10:48
ikonialoopback ????10:48
SASDOEThat's what some people recommend. But they are french so could be translation10:49
ikoniayour router either needs to manage port forwarding better as a clean pass through (doubtful from what you are saying) or you need to map a local host entry to the internal ip address of the server, so it doesn't touch your router - but you said you didn't want to do that10:49
SASDOEikonia: Ok I'll give it a try, thanks.10:50
ITAL0hello all10:50
Gilligan94is there an IRC for ubuntu server?10:50
ikoniayou are on the ubuntu irc server10:51
ThibultmolHi, I'm having an issue executing the 'nautilus -q' command. Error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6498418/10:51
DJonesGilligan94: If you mean a specific channel for Ubuntu Server edition, the #ubuntu-server10:51
ITAL0I'm looking for a service that associate a dinamic ip to a fix domain name , but I don't know how it's named10:51
Gilligan94thanks DJones10:51
ITAL0anyone know this service pls?10:51
ThibultmolITAL0: I have used http://www.noip.com/ in the past10:52
* ITAL0 Thibultmol I go to see , thx Thibultmol 10:53
_root_Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server is it engough to make SFTP with read and write access running?10:53
_root_i put that in sshd_config10:53
ThibultmolSo does anybody know why I am getting this error when use the command 'sudo nautilus -q'10:56
DJones!gksudo | Thibultmol10:57
ubottuThibultmol: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)10:57
ThibultmolThank you guys. But something still isn't right. I'm following this guide http://www.noobslab.com/2013/10/add-open-as-rootadministrator-option-in.html but I need to restart nautilus but 'gksudo nautilus -q' doesnt work10:59
MonkeyDustThibultmol  it's a ppa, maybe you should contact the maintainer11:03
Thibultmolright11:04
hsthi all11:05
ThibultmolWould do you guys use when you have to open a file or folder'file explorer' as root. Do you use the terminal or some other methode that I don't know baout11:10
ab`i can't  hide rhythmbox window, alt-f4 fully terminates it just like ctrl-q. any idea?11:10
ikoniajust run the file manager as root11:12
ThibultmolGuess that's the best option11:12
bekksthats the worst idea.11:13
ikoniabekks: why is that the worst idea ?11:14
bekksThibultmol: which folder do you talk about?11:14
bekksikonia: Because people most likely just mess up permission or break other things when doing their work with a root filemanager and then forget about the fact they are using a root filemanager.11:15
ikoniabekks: that's their problem if they are not careful11:15
meddyi havving problems updating my system11:18
Thibultmolbekks: Just a folder from somewhere that I want to as root11:20
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MonkeyDustmeddy  what kind of problems?11:22
MonkeyDustab`  click on the sound icon on top, there you find rhytmbox11:27
ab`MonkeyDust: i just realized rhythmbox only persist when there is something being played, i was foolishly trying without playing anything. thanks.11:31
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deanrock0hi, what does it mean if ubuntu stops around "/dev/mapper/hostname--vg-root: clean, * files, * blocks" but everything else works (ssh and other services)?11:33
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ikoniadeanrock0: it's not stopping, it's telling you the file system is clean11:34
aaaaaaaaaaaHi, I'm installing ubuntu 12.04.3 alongside windows 8 on a Lenovo y410P laptop and the partition manager is giving me a sliding scale for the resize of the windows GPT partition, but doesn't indicate which side will stay win8 and which will become ubuntu. Also, I just want to note that I had to manually turn on the backlight via FNkey+UParrow to see anything.11:40
aaaaaaaaaaaI assume people here have installed ubuntu, so is there a Tooltip, or is windows always on the right in the installer, etc?11:42
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: you're "resizing" the exisitng partition - the existing partition is windows11:42
aaaaaaaaaaasure, but which side is which11:43
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: how many partitions are on your system11:43
deanrock0ikonia: well, i thought that it would drop to login screen ... and not just "hang"11:43
aaaaaaaaaaa811:43
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: you have 8 partitions on your system ?11:43
aaaaaaaaaaaerr, 9, 8 hidden11:43
hassen_Given that i entered this command to download Psysharper [ sudo apt-get install python-geoip python-tk tk8.5 python-pmw tcpdump ] where could I run the [ sudo make install ] command to install that application?11:43
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: what are all those partitions for ?11:43
aaaaaaaaaaayeah, lenovo ships it that way11:43
aaaaaaaaaaagood question11:43
aaaaaaaaaaaprobably 1 is for the EFUI bootloader11:44
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: I'm not touching that, bottom line is you resize the partition and free spce will be before/after the partition you are resizing depending on where you drag the slider11:44
aaaaaaaaaaa1 is for the lenovo window installer since they don't give CDs or stickers anymore. not sure about the rest.11:44
bekkshassen_: In the directory where you are building the sources of psysharper.11:44
azsxdcfvgbhnjmciao11:44
hassen_bekks, how can I know it?i don't have a clue11:45
azsxdcfvgbhnjmlist11:45
BluesKajHowdy all11:45
ikoniaazsxdcfvgbhnjm: there are no wares here11:45
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia: ok, so the left half is windows and the right side is what is cut off for the new ubuntu install?11:45
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: yes, where ever you make the free space11:45
azsxdcfvgbhnjmhallo11:46
bekkshassen_: the command you entered installs a bunch of packages - not psysharper. Whereever you got that command from they should explain on how to build psysharper.11:46
azsxdcfvgbhnjm!list11:46
ubottuazsxdcfvgbhnjm: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».11:46
aaaaaaaaaaathat information should be added to the installer, it is not clear and assumes left to right orientation.11:46
meddyanyone can help me with my update problem?11:46
bekksmeddy: Did you already state a specific problem?11:47
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: it's clear11:47
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: you are resizing a partition - the partition will be where you create the free space, it's clear11:47
meddyi have a working interent connection but everytime i try to update it says failed to downlaod repository check my internet connection11:47
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia: perhaps in english11:47
bekksmeddy: Can you pastebin the entire output please?11:48
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia, ok thanks for clearing that up.11:48
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: no, without any words/lanaguage11:48
bekks!pastebin | meddy11:48
ubottumeddy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.11:48
DeepBlueEM255E37:  hi11:49
meddyi don't know what else to show  i tried removing my PPA try doing it though terminal but no sucess11:49
ikoniameddy: how about showing what bekks' asked for11:50
bekksmeddy: show us the entire output you can see. We cant guess it.11:50
meddyhttp://imagebin.org/27964711:51
PurefanHello all!. My Natty server cant fetch repos anymore, 404 errors and dont know what to do, any advise?11:51
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia: after I click the accept write and that I understand this action cannot be undone, it does give information (says Windows, has a picture, and says its mount point). Prior to that there is NO LABELING whatsoever.11:52
ikoniameddy: sudo apt-get update please pastebin the output11:52
bekksmeddy: PAstebin the output of "sudo apt-get update" please.11:52
aaaaaaaaaaaclearly a bug either way11:52
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: that's not a bug11:52
aaaaaaaaaaafeature11:52
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: no11:52
meddyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6498616/11:53
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ikoniayou still have the cd source enabled11:53
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rachomeddy, disable that cdrom source11:53
meddyvia software sources?11:54
ikoniasure11:54
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adv_amhello. I am a newbie, a noob, and have recently started using elementary os, which is based on ubuntu.11:58
meddyit fixed!!! here a thing i wonder is it been about a week and a half and it says my system is up to date but it hard to believe due to the time frame...11:58
adv_amI updated the linux kernel which is now giving me an error if i do anything memory extensive11:58
ikoniaadv_am: you need to use the elementary support channel, we only support ubuntu11:59
DeepBlueEM255E37:  what's up?11:59
adv_amikonia: can u send me the server name for their irc?11:59
ikoniaadv_am: I'm sure it's on their website11:59
aaaaaaaaaaaWhat channel could I ask questions about CUDA and OpenCL under linux?12:01
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hassen_aaaaaaaaaaa, what is your distro?12:07
PurefanHi guys, Im having problems updating my Natty server, getting 40412:08
Purefanany advise?12:08
bekks!eolupgrade | Purefan12:09
ubottuPurefan: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:09
aaaaaaaaaaahassen_: I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04.03 as I type. But I want to also run it on 13.10 if possible (at least the binaries).12:09
cfhowlettPurefan, in other words, download and install a currently supported distro - I suggest you go with 12.04 Long-Term-Support12:11
PurefanThanks guys! I think I'll do that instead of upgrade :)12:13
aguitelanyone trying to install epson multifunction cx 5600 ?12:13
cfhowlettPurefan, set your update options to LTS only and upgrade to 14.04 in April12:14
Purefanthing is I need to install mysql-server but the repos dont work anymore and dont want to download and compile unless I really have to12:14
Purefanand now that I learned that natty is no longer supported it makes sense to jump on the train and get a supported one12:15
cfhowlettPurefan, bite the bullet, amigo.12:15
Purefanand Raring's EOF is in january lol12:15
Purefanoh yeah Duh!12:16
cfhowlettPurefan, LTS has 5 years support ...12:16
Purefansorry that's why 12.04 was recommended12:16
cfhowlett:)12:16
Purefan:P going with Precise 8)12:16
cfhowlettPurefan, if you have issues, ask here or in #ubuntuserver.  By the way, I'm guessing your hardware is equally --- vintage - as your OS?  You might want to get xubuntu or lubuntu as they are both optimized for older and lower spec machines12:17
aaaaaaaaaaaFresh install Ubuntu 12.04.03 breaks windows 8 bootloader on new lenovo y410p and overwrites \Boot\BCD giving Status 0xc000000e12:18
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: Thats expected.12:19
bekks!grub2 | aaaaaaaaaaa12:19
ubottuaaaaaaaaaaa: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub212:19
cfhowlettPurefan, LTS: 5 years support on the server, 3 years on the desktop it appears12:19
hassen_is ubuntu considered a Debian system?12:19
bunnyfloponly problems with 812:19
PurefanIm actually using a rackspace cloud server (1GB Ram)12:19
cfhowletthassen_, it's derived from Debian12:19
aaaaaaaaaaaand to fix?12:19
Purefanthanks for pointing me to #ubuntuserver :) will bookmark it12:19
aaaaaaaaaaabekks: ^12:19
cfhowlettPurefan, so this is a server?  no gui?12:19
Purefanyup12:19
cfhowlettPurefan, nice.12:20
Purefan:) it does its job, but its getting promoted and needs a newer OS hehe12:20
miscel06ciao12:20
miscel06!list12:21
ubottumiscel06: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:21
aaaaaaaaaaaAlso, both the regular installer and wubi is now broken?12:21
cfhowlettaaaaaaaaaaa, wubi?  people still mess with that mess?12:21
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: wubi is not supported on windows 8.12:21
aaaaaaaaaaa well, when I booted up it showed up and started installing 12.04.1 from my 12.04.03 dvd.12:22
BluesKajI thought wubi just had it's support discontinued12:22
bekksBluesKaj: which is basically the same :)12:22
cfhowlettBluesKaj, I really ^3 hope so ...12:22
aaaaaaaaaaaanyway, how do I make the windows 8 bootable again12:22
aaaaaaaaaaagrub lists it, but it cannot boot it.12:22
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: grab your windows 8 cd, and repair your boot environment.12:22
BluesKajcfhowlett. bekks yes , and good riddance :)12:22
aaaaaaaaaaawill it be able to boot linux?12:23
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: the windows 8 cd isnt capable of booting linux.12:23
aaaaaaaaaaaalso, I didn't get a win8 cd from lenovo they put it on a partition.12:23
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: And you didnt create rescue media then?12:23
aaaaaaaaaaaI bought the laptop directly from them12:23
BluesKajaaaaaaaaaaa. which lenovo ?12:24
aaaaaaaaaaaI backed up the whole harddrive via REDO12:24
cfhowlettaaaaaaaaaaa, look on your lappy for the license key and download the ISO digitalriver IINM12:24
aaaaaaaaaaaBluesKaj: y410p, and the license key is on the MOBO, not as a sticker its some internal chip12:24
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: it isnt "on the mobo" - you just have an OEM version, without a sticker.12:25
aaaaaaaaaaa?12:26
PurefanGetting Precise now :) Thanks all for your help, enjoy your weekend!12:26
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: lenove told you to create rescue media at first boot. now you need them.12:26
aaaaaaaaaaawhen did they tell me to do that?12:27
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: "at first boot".12:27
cfhowlett^^^^ exactly.  also recommended repeatedly in the documentation12:27
Xeno-Genesishey, I submitted a patch for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/118533012:27
aaaaaaaaaaawait are you saying Linux is dropped?12:27
ubottuUbuntu bug 1185330 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "network manager error" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:27
aaaaaaaaaaaoh12:27
Xeno-Genesiswhat's the next step?12:27
BluesKajaaaaaaaaaaa. , nice laptop , just oredered the G50012:27
aaaaaaaaaaaIt is an either \ or thing for linux and windows now12:27
BluesKajaaaaaaaaaaa. the y410p looks very nice12:28
Xeno-Genesisplease email instructions to get that fix into the code to root@xeno-genesis.com12:28
Xeno-Genesisif someone is willing to help me get that patch into prod12:28
Xeno-Genesisthanks12:28
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: its a linux only thing now, your windows is broken and you cant repair it. All you could do is restoring the entire disk backup hoping that the boot environment will be restored too.12:28
cfhowlettBluesKaj, my '09 is Dell is reaching replacement stage.  I've worn the finger nubs off J and F.  That new M3800 looks sweet but awaiting word on linux/ubuntu support12:29
aaaaaaaaaaanah, I'll just stop developing on linux until a proper bootloader exists. I'll re-installing windows12:31
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: With which cd...? With which key...? :)12:32
cfhowlettLOL12:32
aaaaaaaaaaabit for bit from the backup I made with REDO bootable linux12:32
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: thats "restoring a backup" and not "reinstalling windows".12:33
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: And it is unclear wether that will give you a bootable windows.12:33
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aaaaaaaaaaaI have an OEM system builders DVD too, just not from Lenovo but I don't want to waste that license12:35
aaaaaaaaaaaFor the desktop I built12:35
aaaaaaaaaaa*from12:35
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: well, options are clear.12:35
aaaaaaaaaaaAre there any plans to port grub or linux installers to modern computers?12:36
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: grub works on modern computers.12:36
BluesKajcfhowlett. I had an elcheapo acer laptop which ran Kubuntu very nicely , too bad the build quality was so poor , but I'm looking forward to this new Lenovo , should be here on Mon or Tue , and I'll probly need help installing Linux , due to my unfamiliarity with the UEFI/BIOS .12:36
aaaaaaaaaaaonly using ~1980's hdd schemes apparently though12:37
cfhowlettBluesKaj, that exact issue is why I'm keeping one eye on the XPS 13 developer Editoin ...12:37
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: please stop with the stupid ocmments12:37
bekksaaaaaaaaaaa: Nope, thats wrong.12:37
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: gpt partitions work just fine12:37
BluesKajcfhowlett. nice machine :)12:40
cfhowlettBluesKaj, ain't she?12:41
maxiaojunany gui man page viewer for ubuntu 12.04+ ?12:42
hassen_"Samba is an implementation of the SMB/CIFS protocol for Unix systems, providing support for cross-platform file"12:45
hassen_said ubuntu12:45
hassen_sii need it to access my music in my win7 partition?12:45
hassen_so*12:45
ObrienDaveyou mean to just play the files?12:46
hassen_share my win 7 music folder with  ubuntu12:47
IndustrialWhy does ubuntu rename the nodejs binary from 'node' to 'nodejs' ? this is breaking other packages ...12:47
cfhowletthassen_, dual booting?  mount the windows and play the files12:47
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia: that's both rude and incorrect. I appreciate you verifying what should have been working on the installer, but what I've said is all correct.12:47
Industrialthings like #!/usr/bin/env node12:47
Industrialstop working12:47
aaaaaaaaaaathat said, I have them playing nicely together now12:47
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: no, it's not12:47
aaaaaaaaaaaexcept grub which doesn't work right12:48
ikoniaaaaaaaaaaaa: you're upset because it didn't work how you wanted and made stupid comments about it not working on modern partition formats12:48
hassen_yes, already dual boot :)12:48
hassen_doh..audacity stopped responding,now its windows has turned to black-white style12:49
hassen_*window*12:49
ObrienDavehassen_, I just play them, no need for Samba that I know of12:49
kalakjsdhi all, anyone using sakis3g script here12:50
rachoIndustrial, yes it is stupid but you can put this in your .bashrc to negate some of the damage: alias node=/usr/bin/nodejs12:50
kalakjsdi need a little help12:50
aaaaaaaaaaaikonia: For the record I'm not angry, simple frustrated, ignoring errors in an installer which results in showstopper bugs out of fandom is stupid, however. We can leave it at that.12:51
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kalakjsdi want to set USER_PASS AND USER NAME variable in sakis 3g, i don't want to enter them everytime12:52
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kalakjsdi want it to connect it without asking for username and password, because they are blank and not needed in India for most of providers12:53
kalakjsdand this is mentioned in GUI that i can automate that, but i don't know how to automate the process12:53
mjaykhaya all12:54
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cfhowlettmjayk, greetings12:54
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ravnhey12:55
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TeorЯR, ИN13:01
hassen_doh..i'm sure that when installing ubuntu, i chose my account's password as 'azertyb' but why can't that pass used for "su root" ?13:02
ikoniahassen_: because you don't "su root"13:02
ikoniahassen_: the root account is locked13:02
hassen_does it have another known password?13:03
yeatshassen_: you want to change your password since you just shared it in a public and publicly logged IRC channel13:03
ikoniahassen_: no, it's "locked"13:03
ikonia!sudo | hassen_13:03
ubottuhassen_: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo13:03
hassen_so how can I do some work involving 'su root'??13:03
ikoniahassen_: read the link ubottu has just sent you13:04
ikoniahassen_: you should not su root at all13:04
aaaaaaaaaaaBluesKaj: if you run into the same issue on your g500 when you get it, I got it to working using a bootable bootloader (EFI boot manager utility) since grub fails to pull windows up.13:04
hassen_Understood.13:04
Promillehassen_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6676/why-is-there-no-option-to-login-as-root13:04
hassen_Promille, thanks.13:04
Promillehassen_: np :)13:05
BluesKajaaaaaaaaaaa .EFI boot manager utility , got a URL ?13:05
box_#tglobe13:08
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EFIBootLoaders13:08
UnHolyTerrorhassen_, By default the 'root' account is not assigned a password, so you couldn't login as root if you wanted too. The only way is to assign root a password then you can switch users/login as root just like any other account.13:09
UnHolyTerrorhassen_, but you should see in those links why there is no need to do that.13:10
BluesKajlotuspsychje. , thanks.  the rEFInd looks promising13:10
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: trying a dualboot?13:10
aaaaaaaaaaarEFInd13:11
aaaaaaaaaaahttp://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/13:11
aaaaaaaaaaahttp://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/13:11
hassen_UnHolyTerror, i deal much with bash scripting,root is required for many commands there.13:11
hassen_they are wise though,putting root in the hand of any kind of users is risky.13:12
* ewoirhweurhuhrwe is having sex with selena gomez <313:12
hassen_ikonia, do you have that nice Acer laptop?13:13
ikoniawhat acer laptop ? (I don't have an acer laptop anyway)13:13
BluesKajlotuspsychje. I will be when the new laptop is delivered ..gonna need Windows for a while as well . so dual boot is it13:13
hassen_ikonia, never heard of Acer Iconia?13:14
ikoniano13:14
hassen_ikonia, http://img.clubic.com/03772908-photo-acer-iconia-1.jpg13:16
aaaaaaaaaaais that a second screen?13:17
ObrienDaveooo0, spill proof keyboard?13:17
sandman13is that Lenovo Yoga?13:17
Belial`that thing is ugly as sin13:17
fault3rHi all13:17
bekkshassen_: thats the iconia tab with a keyboard, isnt it?13:17
hassen_bekks, yes,a double-touch laptop13:18
hassen_seems epic13:18
fault3rHow can i install SandyBridge? [that is a Intel Graphic Driver]13:18
bekkshassen_: For whatever but working with that crap.13:18
hassen_bekks, why?13:18
sandman13what you guys think about KDE? I'm in a doubt. Should i install it or not?13:18
piccasandman13: don't do it13:18
LjL!polls13:18
ubottuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.13:19
hassen_bekks, imaging touch ubuntu's UI buttons :)13:19
bekksfault3r: Sandy Bridge is a hardware component, which is already installed. The driver you are looking for is named "i915"13:19
fault3rsandman13: gnome is better13:19
hassen_*imagine*13:19
fault3rsandman13: dont do it13:19
piccasander: fluxbox is the future13:19
LjLsandman13: that can only be answered after knowing your needs and preferences, if at all. anyway, it's a better topic for #ubuntu-offtopic13:19
LjLpicca, fault3r: see above also13:19
piccaLjL: i am joking13:19
sandman13LjL help me there13:19
bekkshassen_: I prefer to work with a computer instead of touching my laptop with both hands.13:19
fault3rbekks: Hi, I need Intel Graphic Driver13:20
koyetsuCLI is the only way to go! just figured i'd throw that in13:20
fault3rbekks: it's for Dell inspiron n403013:20
piccakoyetsu: mc, moc, lynx, irssi, what else you do you need in life?13:21
BluesKajsandman13. KDE is great , been using it for a long time13:21
koyetsuis there a way to mirror only 1 specific release of ubuntu with apt-mirror? i only want 12.04.3 not all 150gb of releases13:21
cfhowlett!mirror|koyetsu, of course13:22
ubottukoyetsu, of course: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Saucy, and help keeping the servers' load low!13:22
hassen_bekks, i see.13:22
cfhowletteh, not that one13:22
koyetsupicca, i was only half kidding when i comes to linux i use cli for direct config and webmin if i just need to poke something no X on my systems13:22
aaaaaaaaaaaIf we're voting for ui's, then xfce when I can, terminal when I can't13:24
fault3rbekks: i915 is for Intel graphics?13:24
piccafault3r: yup13:24
fault3rbekks: is i915 for Intel graphics?* :D13:24
koyetsuok, in that case can someone tell me why when using an iso of 12.04.3 mounted to my ../www/ubuntu/ dir and pxe booting with a ks file pointing there i get a bad mirror error? when i goto console 4 it says that "mirror does not support the specified release (precise)"13:24
fault3rpicca: thanks13:25
piccafault3r: no probs13:26
young001hi,all I wanna split a file into two files,one is 100k,and the other is the left,how to do that? "split" command seems to only split file into same files13:26
fault3rPici: where can i find i915?13:27
llutzyoung001: split -b 100k   will do13:28
fault3rPici: i found it :D13:28
young001llutz, it seems split will split the file into same pieces of 100k13:28
young001llutz, if a file is 300k,I wanna split into 100k and 200k13:29
bekksyoung001: then you are using it not correctly.13:29
bekksyoung001: you want to split into 200 and 100...13:29
young001bekks, if the file is 500k,I wanna split into 100k and 400k13:29
llutzyoung001: split -b 400k13:30
koyetsubasically he only wants the first 100k in the first file13:30
bekksyoung001: 400 and 100, instead of 100 and 400.13:30
llutzwhyever, makes no sense13:30
koyetsusounds like he needs to parse the most recent logs or something13:30
young001llutz, thx13:30
bekkskoyetsu: then he should use grep and sed instead of split.13:31
koyetsui didn't claim to be an expert13:31
MajSlayer7777me 213:31
llutzyoung001: dd if=file of=file1.out bs=100k count=1          same for the 2nd file with different bs13:31
MajSlayer7777PH freaking D13:31
young001llutz, thx13:32
bekksllutz: head -c 100k ?13:32
koyetsuso any ideas on why ubuntu says it's iso isn't a valid mirror?13:32
llutzbekks: about 2mio ways to do it13:32
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streulmaHello, how can I make the text on my screen sharper?13:33
fault3rwhat is the command to detect my graphic card? [not lspci]13:33
bekksfault3r: that is the command, lspci.13:33
streulmais there a ppa for Gutenprint drivers ?13:33
hassenwhat does the Ctrl+Alt+F1 do?i got a black command-line input screen13:37
hassenthen rebooted13:37
IndustrialI installed node.js from source which installed a /usr/local/bin/node. if I type in node in the commandline I get the error that I should Install node from the package13:39
Industrialwhen I run which node13:39
syeekickhassen,  thats a tty1 session, to get out of it pres ctrl+alt f713:39
Industrialit points to /usr/local/bin/node13:39
fault3rbekks: dude?13:39
young001llutz, how to split the file based on lines,such as 100 lines?thx13:39
bekksfault3r: ?13:40
fault3rbekks: Kernel driver in use: i91513:40
bekksyoung001: split -l ...13:40
fault3rbekks: Kernel modules: i91513:40
bekksfault3r: Nice, and?13:40
fault3rbekks: Kernel driver in use: i91513:40
bekksfault3r: you dont have to repeat three times.13:41
fault3rbekks: is that mean i have this driver?13:41
bekksfault3r: As it is in use, yes.13:41
dantxoHello, I have a problem, I'm changing the hostname but after rebooting the hostname gets reverted to ubuntu13:41
bekksdantxo: is it a livecd?13:41
young001bekks, so we come to the first question,I have a file,and I wanna split it into two files,one the 100 lines,and the other.how to do that?thx13:41
Industrial`which node` => `/usr/local/bin/node`, `node` => `The program 'nodejs' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install nodejs`13:42
Industrialwhy is this?13:42
dantxodantxo: no, it's a Ubuntu server13:42
fault3rbekks: why do i dont see it in system details?13:42
fault3rbekks: :(13:42
bekksyoung001: just as you did before?13:42
bekksfault3r: because the system details do not display that?13:42
dantxobekks: It's not a live cd, it's a VM running Ubuntu Server 64 bits13:42
young001bekks, yes13:42
fault3rbekks: system details > Graphics: Unknown13:42
hassensyeekick, understood,thanks.13:43
koyetsuOMFG i'm an idiot. spelling errors screw ub more things than anything else13:44
OerHeksyoung001, You need to change 2 files  /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts AFAIK13:45
koyetsuapparently i'm creating my own flavor of ubuntu called ubutnu13:45
ObrienDavehey, a new fork ;))13:45
syeekickhassen, its good practice in my opinion to get stuck in a tty :P13:46
bekksfault3r: And?13:46
syeekickcause you have to work out how to get out if not you are going to be stuck. forceful learning13:46
bekksfault3r: you do knwo which graphics hw you have, you know which driver si in use? What next?13:46
mirko_hello13:46
lucianoalgum brasileiro13:47
LjL!br13:47
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.13:47
fault3rbekks: No ;( nevermind dude, i try to fix it...13:47
luciano#ubuntu-pt13:47
koyetsuspeaking as someone who knows just enough to get into trouble i HIGHLY recomend a vm envioronment with no X to start larning on caue then you can blow it away and start over and you learn enough of the fundamentals to not piss everyone off with your questions13:48
ObrienDavekoyetsu, good advice, i'm learning that one myself :)13:49
hassensyeekick, to mimic the command-line interface usage?13:49
Sh1G3rUkoyetsu +1 virtual machines, a little manual reading and alot of patiente13:49
koyetsui picked up a cheap ibm x3550 with 16gb ram in it slapped free esxi on it and am setting up a pxe install server so i can pop out test servers in a few mins13:51
koyetsuonly thing pissing me off is a can't get my automated install to go through the disk partitioning without me messing with it13:52
koyetsui have to do the final 2 selections13:53
bekkskoyetsu: would you mind your language please?13:54
syeekickhassen, its not mimicing its a terminal13:54
syeekickthe hard thing to get your head around is the run levels in side tty sessions13:55
syeekicki don't understand it13:55
koyetsuoh sorry didn't realise that was a bad word13:55
bekkssyeekick: since upstart, there are no runlevels anymore :)13:55
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Guest64270Guten Tag13:56
Guest64270HEllo13:56
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hassenso is tty another seperate thing from terminal or what?14:00
StormCloudgood evening14:01
lotuspsychje!tty | hassen14:03
ubottuhassen: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution14:03
bekkshassen: a tty is a text type terminal, wehich runs a shell. your loved gnome-terminal is basically an terminal emulator running a shell too.14:04
lotuspsychjeStormCloud: hello mate what can we do for you?14:04
andywojoI'm addicted to terminator.14:04
syeekickbekks, you mean there is no run levels in ubuntu?14:05
bekks!upstart | syeekick14:06
ubottusyeekick: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/14:06
syeekicknice thats one thing i dont have to get my nnoggin around14:06
hassenbekks, i see,but both (tty and gnome-terminal) are working the same?or is tty used deeper?14:07
hassen!kde14:11
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.14:11
YaMoonSunWhere do I make error reports? I'm having trouble broadcasting on TinyChat.14:14
Industrial`which node` => `/usr/local/bin/node` but then when i do `node` => `The program 'nodejs' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install nodejs`14:25
Industriali installed from source14:25
hex20decHey people, I have a usb wifi adapter that works perfectly fine, but when I put my computer to sleep and then turn it back on, I need to unplug the usb and plug it back it to be recognized.14:26
hex20decWhy is that?14:26
juniouri just bough tplink nano usb wireless adapter how to make it work. the card is showing in lsusb14:30
TronicChoosing HDMI 5.1 Surround no longer has any effect (it still uses stereo output). Why is this? On ALSA level 5.1 output works fine but PulseAudio (configured via pavucontrol or Gnome sound settings) doesn't.14:30
TronicThis worked fine until today.14:30
TronicSuspecting some recent update but there are quite many of them.14:30
juniourtplink nana wireless adapter detected but how to connect ot network plz help14:31
TronicEven if 5.1 is chosen, the speaker test in Gnome sound settings still displays only two speakers. Also, audio doesn't even pause when changing the setting, further suggesting that the selection is simply ignored.14:31
juniourit ned some driver or wt??14:31
lotuspsychje!sound | Tronic14:32
ubottuTronic: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.14:32
TronicI'm using Nvidia drivers.14:32
juniourhow to make work realteak drives14:33
juniour??14:33
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lotuspsychje!wifi | juniour14:35
ubottujuniour: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs14:35
ompyHow we can secure the elastic serach ?14:35
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Troniclotuspsychje: Doesn't seem to be of much help.14:36
TronicPulseAudio doesn't give any error when switching card profiles via pacmd, either, but also no effect.14:36
lotuspsychjeTronic: maybe look around in the logviewer /var/log/syslog see if any unusual errors show up14:37
juniourneed to install realtek drivers14:37
juniourlotuspsychje need to install realtek driver14:37
lotuspsychjejuniour: there are ubuntu realtek drivers on realtek official website14:37
juniourlotuspsychje plz give me link14:38
_root_i set up everything with nginx but it cant handle a simple phpinfo file;;; right now it only parse static html. here is the log +   http://p.ngx.cc/1714:38
AutocleesisBest music player on Ubuntu Store?14:38
lotuspsychje!best | Autocleesis14:38
ubottuAutocleesis: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:38
AutocleesisAbdication!14:38
AutocleesisDefeatism, laziness and surrender!14:38
AutocleesisBut okay.14:38
lotuspsychjeAutocleesis: that depends on what your needs are14:39
lotuspsychjeAutocleesis: every package has its speciality...14:40
AutocleesisThanks lotuspsychje14:40
AutocleesisWhich Gstreamer pack do I need to allow import of tracks to Rhythmbox?14:40
AutocleesisI see 414:41
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koyetsuok, i coulda swore that "service networking restart" was the network reload command. i REALLY don't wanna reboot my server14:43
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ThibaultmolHi all, I'm trying to install the latest nvidia linux drivers using this guide: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-the-Latest-NVIDIA-331-20-Drivers-in-Ubuntu-13-10-399182.shtml But I get an error at the last step saying I have to insert the Ubuntu 13.10 cd rom. How do I fix this14:45
^Jonni^привет14:47
MrToaDhi there, im having some major difficulties with AMD catalyst. Had installed via the "additional drivers" utility under System Settings. However this reported as 15.xxx.xxx etc. Wanted to try version 13.11 and 13.4, but that would not get me past grub screen. blank screen and system hang14:47
MrToaDhave managed to uninstall the drivers and get system running14:48
MrToaDbut when i try putting the drivers and catalyst back the normal way (which worked originally) i still end up with the blank screen and lockup14:48
MrToaDanyone able to help... ive a bunch of xorg.conf backups sitting around14:48
MrToaDfrom each attempt14:48
^Jonni^а русские есть??14:49
DJones!ru | ^Jonni^14:49
ubottu^Jonni^: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:49
GreyghostrosMay not be the right place but need some help with data recovery.. My hdd has gone bad. I am trying to clone it with ddrescue but when the process starts it shows error: 1 and error size:  size of partition. The partition was an ext3 which too is not being recognised. Using testdisk it does recognise it but any attempt to access it makes the hdd go offline. Is there anything i can try to recover? Thnanks14:50
^Jonni^Hello14:50
hasseni was downloading my ATI HD 3470 driver and now i got a "ati*.run file"14:51
hassenhow to install it?14:51
hassendouble-clicking doesn't seem to be the choice14:51
MrToaDsudo bash etc.run14:52
koyetsuhassen have you bothered to read the installation instructions?14:52
MrToaDor there are people saying you must get it into dpgk acceptable form14:52
MrToaDbut im stuck on a more serious issue14:52
MrToaDas i cannot get a stable system running any more, when reverting to installing through "additional hardware"14:52
MrToaDthis is worrying14:52
MrToaDcan't start up system at all after trying the other drivers14:52
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MrToaDunless i boot into recovery mode14:53
MrToaDand remove them14:53
MrToaDreboot...14:53
MrToaDgone round that circle a few times, it completely hangs14:53
koyetsuMrToaD, i honestly don't use X so my only advice is blow it up and start over14:53
hassenMrToaD, what?14:53
MrToaDkoyetsu: im thinking that, but i cant14:54
koyetsuwhy not?14:54
lotuspsychjeMrToaD: how about fix broken packages from recoverymode?14:54
MrToaDbut they are not broken packages14:54
MrToaDi did a force install, thats what broke it14:54
^Jonni^Ulгде русские?14:55
* dwatkins maps the Mun14:55
KoRnshellI m trying to control fan speed, sudo: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools: command not found, how do I resolve this?14:57
KoRnshell/etc/init.d/module-init-tools should exist no?14:57
KoRnshellAlso, it says module init tools is already in the newest version14:58
phong_hi guys, what is the best way to test 3d in ubuntu14:58
phong_i want to test my GTX 58014:58
hassenaah 'bash' for running files..14:59
phong_any graphic benchmart?14:59
Thibaultmolphong_: http://unigine.com/products/heaven/download/15:00
ThibaultmolWhat do you guys consider the best way to install official nvidia drivers?15:01
phong_Thibaultmol, i do install offical nvidia drivers15:01
phong_Thibaultmol, latest one15:01
dondopaWhat is the best paper size for pdfs to be read on 7 inch tablets?15:01
yeats!ot | dondopa15:02
ubottudondopa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:02
phong_Thibaultmol, they have .run file15:02
Thibaultmolphong_: I am trying to do that but every method I have used fails somehow15:02
hacchanwas there a net split15:02
hacchanwhy is there literally nobody15:02
phong_you have to stop your service and install15:03
phong_i think press ALT+F115:03
Thibaultmolphong_: it says I have to put in the ubuntu 13.10 disc15:03
phong_nah15:03
Thibaultmolphong_: I'm not updating. I'm installing15:03
phong_yeah15:03
phong_installing15:03
phong_u have to X out of windows then login as root15:04
phong_then stop the services and install15:04
phong_| NVIDIA-SMI 331.20     Driver Version: 331.2015:04
Thibaultmolphong_: right...15:04
Thibaultmolphong_: Ill give it a shot15:05
hacchancould anyone help me? I used to change by backlight in awesome wm using gnome-settings-daemon and my keyboard hotkeys in 13.04, and i just updated to 13.10 and gnome-settings-daemon no longer grants me the ability to do so15:06
hacchanback then i could press the keys and a square popup would show me the current brightness level15:07
andywojoAnyone know why service networking restart kills the DE? I know it's a known bug..15:09
papadoes anyone know of a mail client where you can check next to the email or multiple emails to mark for deletion?15:10
TronicAny idea why opening a new terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T causes Gnome Shell to lose focus and keyboard becoming infunctional?15:11
JankaroHiho15:11
TronicI even tried upgrading Gnome Shell to 3.10.2.1 but the problem persists. Perhaps related to Ubuntu's Xorg?15:11
duruvican any one tell me how to control bandwidth of the broadband connection?15:17
duruvihi15:22
duruvican any one tell me how to control bandwidth of the broadband connection?15:22
duruvican any one tell me how to control bandwidth of the broadband connection?15:22
FloodBot1duruvi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:22
duruvihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6499417/15:24
duruvidone15:24
CharcoalcatI pressed ctrl+alt+f1 to try and fix the screen freezing. How do I get out?15:25
llutzCharcoalcat: alt-f715:25
CharcoalcatIlutz thanks!15:25
adamuHello15:27
MrHacksI just had a thought. What MTP software SHOULDN'T I install, or what MTP Software should I remove? http://i.imgur.com/Pe2Uarc.png15:29
MrHacksI'm starting to believe the reason I could never get any of my MTP devices to connect anymore (an why I see these messages in dmesg http://pastebin.com/N1xfubFD ) is because I may have installed conflicting software.15:29
mathieg2Have you purged all your mtp packages?15:30
mathieg2apt-get purge xxx15:30
DeepBlueEM255E37:15:31
MrHacksI don't think I need to get rid of all my MTP software. Just whatever it is that doesn't let me connect my KFHD7 to my computer anymore.15:32
MrMonkey31hoy! anyone know whether an ACPI=off param in the cmdline  is the same as turning off ACPI in bios? or does it put it in some standby mode or switch it on occasionally for some nefarious purposes or whatever?15:32
papa__does anyone know a mail client where you can click several messages for deletion at once?15:33
DJonespapa__: I use thunderbird & can do that15:34
mathieg2MrHacks> for android devices - I think the Kindle fire still counts - I find the adb tools are the most reliable way of doing mtp stuff15:35
mathieg2let me look up the actual package name15:35
papa__DJones thank you I will try that now15:35
mathieg2its android-tools-fsutils15:36
adamuMrMonkey31, I believe if you pass ACPI=off as a boot parameter through the kernel command line it disables acpi in the kernel but it is still enabled in the bios its just not being used15:37
MrHacksThat would be good mathieg2, if only I could CONNECT the device.  I also have android-tools-fsutils installed as well as android-tools-fastboot and android-tools-adb15:38
MrHacksAgain, whenever I plug it in I see this message in dmesg http://pastebin.com/N1xfubFD15:38
MrMonkey31adamu: alright, not being used... by the kernel?  by the chipset?  I'm sry for being vague, I know so little though15:40
asMrHacks: try a different cable and/or do not use hubs15:40
ashad that a few times, was always one of those two15:41
MrHacksas, did that. I own several cables. I used two different hubs.  Still got http://pastebin.com/N1xfubFD15:41
PatrickDickeyMrMonkey31: I believe that he means that the kernel won't be using it. The capability will still be available in the hardware (BIOS), but the software/operating system will be ignoring it.15:42
astry no hub at all15:42
MrHacksas: what do you mean by "try no hub at all"?15:42
MrMonkey31adamu: in any case it looks like I can't fail with bios level disabling. I'm trying to troubleshoot some hw, and people have told me acpi is a culprit. also linus does not like it!!15:42
MrMonkey31-understood15:43
asmy last phone required to be kooked up to the rear port of my pc, couldn't even use the front ports on my case15:43
papa__DJones15:43
asand could not use the hub in my monitor15:43
papa__I don't see the option for that DJones15:43
adamuMrMonkey31, Well it is my understanding that if you disable it with the kernel command line it is not used by the operating system so that might be worth a shot but yeah you can't go wrong disabling it at the bios level15:43
adamuPatrickDickey, Yeah that is what I was trying to say15:44
DJonespapa__: I just left click using Ctrl+left click and then press delete15:44
MrHacksas, so try the USB ports on the back of the computer?  I think I only have USB3 ports avaiable back there, but I will attempt it15:45
asand your best cable :)15:45
papa__DJones thanks.. What i was trying to do was make this easier for my grandfather who is 87 delete his mail. getting it online with ads and everything is causing him to click everwhere he shouldn't. The interface of thunderbird/evolution is simple enough for him but hes looking for that feature. Teaching him to hold CNTRL is like a two day process haha15:46
adamuMrHacks, I don't know if this will fit your needs but have you tried accessing it using PTP instead of MTP that is what I ended up doing and I haven't had any reason to switch to MTP because PTP works just fine15:46
juniourslug y i got this pastebin.com/D1qSXLWwa15:47
juniourwww.pastebin.com/D1qSXLWwa15:47
MrHacksadamu: PTP is not available on KFHD715:48
PatrickDickeypapa__: What exactly are you trying to do? Delete multiple messages, or permanently delete them (bypassing Trash)?15:48
papa__PatrickDickey delete multiple messages15:49
juniourguys plz look at this www.pastebin.com/D1qSXLWwa15:49
adamuMrHacks, Oh okay I was not aware of that15:50
PatrickDickeypapa__: You could try CTRL key + A key to select all, then Shift+ Delete (or just Delete if you want them to go to the trash folder).15:51
OerHeksjuniour, that paste is deleted, so what now?15:51
PatrickDickeyMake sure you click on one of the messages first though (so it deletes those).15:52
juniourwait15:52
juniourwill send you agin15:52
juniourcheck now http://pastebin.com/jmx1QnVC15:52
papa__PatrickDickey, I get that.. but what I am looking for is to check on a box on the left side of the message and be able to select several then click on the trash icon and have them gone.15:53
papa__He needs simple process, would like to keep it the same as it always has been for him15:53
juniouri am not able to install linux header15:54
coryn|drunkis there a package for manpages for developers? I'm missing a few things,15:54
juniouruname -r give 3.6.11+15:54
ActionParsnipPapa__: right click email -> delete15:55
ActionParsnipJuniour: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue15:55
papa__ActionParsnip then we run into the problem not doing multiple at a time..15:55
MrHacksPlugging in the device to one of the back USB ports did not resolve the issue. as, using a different USB port has failed and has only repeated problem in dmesg15:55
juniourActionParsnip its raspberry pi15:55
OerHeksjuniour, seems like an old kernel/ubuntu version to me, what version are you on?15:56
papa__i guess i'll have to give him the option of going online and getting it or trying to use the cntrl key15:56
adamupapa__, Why not keep using gmail and just install a good ad blocker because it sounds like that is what he is already using so it might be easier for him to keep using that and the ad blocker should block the ads15:56
ActionParsnipJuniour: doesnt answer my question15:56
papa__because its netscape not gmail....15:56
papa__believe me Gmail would be much better15:56
juniouruname -a output :Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #538 PREEMPT Fri Aug 30 20:42:08 BST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux15:56
juniourcat /etc/issue output : Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l15:57
adamupapa__, Oh okay.. for some reason I thought he was using gmail :/15:57
papa__adamu, I wish!15:57
ActionParsnipJuniour: raspian isnt suported here15:57
asSorry to hear that MrHacks, that was my one recommendation :)15:57
mustafa_hi>>>>>i want to build a cloud with open stack >>>>i only can offer 2 machines>>>>with core2 duo E7400 cpu and 4GB ram each15:57
juniourActionParsnip both linux man so concept will be same15:57
ActionParsnipJuniour: true but this channel is ubuntu support only15:58
DJonesjuniour: Raspian isn't based on Ubuntu, however I think they have their own support channel #rasbian (could be a ##rasbian)15:58
MaddethHey all, anyone know if there is a netatalk channel? Or anyone able to help me with some netatalk issues?15:58
juniourDJones i talked about linux15:58
adamujuniour, There might not be a linux headers package available for arm architectures??15:58
ActionParsnipJuniour: every distro has its own channel. You can get distro unspecific support in #linux15:59
DJonesjuniour: This channel only supports the official Ubuntu releases, you'll need to ask in the channel for your distro15:59
ActionParsnipJuniour: you arent using Ubuntu so are not supported here15:59
juniouradamu i given thsi command to search sudo apt-cache search linux-headers*15:59
ActionParsnipJuniour: its that clean cut.15:59
papa__My other question is, Does anyone know how to change the double click speed in Lubuntu?15:59
juniourActionParsnip i am on ubuntu  12.04 but need to configure my other pc16:00
ActionParsnipPapa__: let me searCNN16:00
ActionParsnipSearch*16:00
wskywhy do you guys rewrite boot sector every time anything grub related gets updated :/16:00
wskyi just fried a tc encrypted volume because of that16:00
ActionParsnipJuniour: you arent. You are using raspian which is not supported here16:00
mustafa_hi>>>>>i want to build a cloud with open stack >>>>i only can offer 2 machines>>>>with core2 duo E7400 cpu and 4GB ram each .......can it be done ?16:00
adamumustafa_, Yeah I don't see why you couldn't16:00
juniourActionParsnip k bro chill. i am user of ubuntu only16:01
wskyok then a question, what console locale should i set to use a preboot-identical keymap?16:01
ActionParsnipJuniour: you issue file says raspian. So its not ubuntu16:01
MrMonkey31hay, openCL -- does anyone know if it can increase performance on my 4 core cpu system (directly or indirectly)?  is that what it is for?16:02
wskykeymap/locale16:02
ActionParsnipPapa__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse16:02
juniourActionParsnip what you say about this bro .Linux juniour 3.2.0-56-generic-pae #86-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 17:51:27 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux16:02
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mustafa_<adamu> isn't there any minimium requirement for the cloud os16:03
papa__ActionParsnip, Funny thing is I changed the speed several times like that and its still not taking affect I thought i was wrong16:03
wskygoogle is useless nodays16:03
ActionParsnipJuniour: i asked you for the output of the file and you said raspian, the kernel you want headers for is raspian. You may have another pc with ubuntu but the issue you are having is with raspian which is not supported here16:03
papa__Just saw that you have to log out and log back in16:04
papa__haha16:04
papa__thanks yoU!16:04
papa__i'll try it now16:04
r0xhi16:05
r0xi have a little annoying problem with ubuntu16:05
r0xafter i little time when i don't use my pc16:06
r0xwhen i do something16:06
ActionParsnipR0x: ease up on the ENTER key dude :-)16:06
r0xthe brightness of the display comes up to maximum16:06
ActionParsnipR0x: after screensaver you mean?16:06
Togusar0x: mine goes to the minimum :D16:07
r0xnope, i don't have any screensaver16:07
PatrickDickeyr0x: On a laptop or a desktop?16:07
r0xlaptop16:07
gambiI want to get xmonad to work with unity. unfortunately, in 13.04 "Unable to find default provider 'unity-2d-panel'" unity-2d doesn't work anymore. how can I get xmonad to work with unity?16:07
ActionParsnipR0x: so the screen randomly goes 100% brightness?16:07
r0xActionParsnip: after x minute of disuse16:08
Togusar0x: you can try with acpi_backlight=vendor (google it), it may or may not improve it16:08
Togusaunless someone has a better idea16:08
ActionParsnipR0x: what is the make and model of the system?16:08
r0xit's an Asus K53SJ16:08
papaActionParsnip , I logged out however the speed stays the same16:08
ActionParsnipR0x: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue16:08
papaI also set the resolution lower and that doesn't save16:09
r0xUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l16:09
pozzhi, so this is the bug I have: Everytime I open a text file with gedit, nothing happens until the second time I open it16:09
pozzI know there is a solution, I found one with google a few months ago for a different computer I have.16:10
ActionParsnipPozz: is it the same with other text editors likebleafpad?16:10
ActionParsnipLike leafpad16:10
r0xActionParsnip: so... can u help me?16:11
ActionParsnipR0x: patience child. Jesus16:12
ActionParsnipR0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2124825.html16:12
cristian_cHi16:12
pozzI am not sure about leafpad16:12
cristian_cI installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar16:13
cristian_cBut if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes16:13
pozzleafpad works fine16:13
PatrickDickeypozz: Why are you not sure about it?16:13
jhutchinsr0x: Did you try what Togusa suggested?16:14
cristian_cI installed the libqt4-core package but it had no effect. Same result installing qt4 qtconfig again. It seems to be an issue related to fonts: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=564548 but I did not understand the meaning of the last message in that report16:14
ActionParsnipPozz: then you know it is only gedit with issue16:14
ubottuDebian bug 564548 in qt4-qtconfig "qt4-qtconfig does not store font settings" [Normal,Open]16:14
* PatrickDickey scratch that. I missed the first part of the issue.16:14
cristian_cI tried to make a change in the settings either with the guest user or creating a new user. Unfortunately, the problem also occurs in these cases. Any idea?16:14
pozzPatrickDickey, because I did not try it until now16:14
ActionParsnipPozz: is there a config for gedit in settings somewhere youncan remove to get default configs16:15
pozzThanks ActionParsnip, it is good to know16:15
cristian_c*ideas16:15
r0xActionParsnip: i think it's useless to edito rc.local 'cause it will modify the startup configuration of my pc16:15
ActionParsnipPozz: is it the same in all sessions. Try Unity2D if you are using Precise16:15
r0xMy problem, instead, occurs all during the execution time of the OS16:15
pozzActionParsnip, so you are suggesting this might be somthing I configured? I don't think I changed anything about gedit16:15
ActionParsnipR0x: yes, why is that useless?16:16
r0xbecause, in that way, you will modify the brightness of the display at startup but it will don't override the brightness during all the time you logged in16:17
pozzokay, well I will have to log out for a brief moment to try unity 2D, brb16:17
ActionParsnipR0x:did you try the boot options on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1875982&page=316:17
r0xit must be something related to the power saving or something like that16:17
MrHacksOK, new theory. I looked at /var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids. (see http://www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids) Every Kindle except the HD 7 and the HDX is listed in this file.  Although I wrote a /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules file, the fact that the KFHD7 is not listed as one of the devices in usb.ids could be a clue as to why things are not recognized.16:18
r0xThe guy said that: You can adjust the brightness to remain at a "fixed desired" level at each reboot by following this:16:19
MrHackscat /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules only has one line in it16:19
MrHacksSUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR={idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007", MODE="0666"16:19
llutzMrHacks: "sudo update-usbids"16:19
r0xbut i think that are something of ubuntu that change the brightness indipendently16:20
r0xhowever, i'll try it16:20
pozzActionParsnip, the bug continues in ubuntu 2D. but there is more, in 2D, it opens a flashy icon in the launcher that just does nothing, even when click. it is replace with the text document the second time I try to open the file16:20
ActionParsnipR0x: did you try the boot options listed?16:21
MrHacksllutz: The file is up to date. However, the device is not listed.  'Amazon Kindle Fire HD 8.9"' is listed but not 'Amazon Kindle HD 7"'16:21
llutzMrHacks: isn't the syntax  "ATTRS{idVendor}=="0xxx", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0xyy" " now?16:21
ActionParsnipPozzz: ok it definately is gedit then and not the WM causing the issue16:21
r0xActionParsnip: yes... some time ago...16:22
MrHacksllutz: No, ATTR is correct. ATTRS is incorrect16:22
ActionParsnipR0x: i siggest you report a bug then. Arebyou on the 3.8 kernel?16:22
MrHacksI only have less than a half hour left to hang out here. So if we can wrap this up so, that would be most helpful16:24
MrHackss/up so/up soon/16:24
llutzMrHacks: ok, but why are you using 2 different syntaxes here? ATTR={idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007"16:24
pozzSo anyone else have the 'have to open gedit twice' bug?16:25
MrHacksExplain?  One is the attribute for the manufacturer. The other is the attrbute for the possible device ID. I wrote this based on a file floating around online16:25
* riskinho hi people,do you wanna earn some money?this is the best way www.libertagia.com/riskinho,create your Network and get some money folks!16:26
llutz ATTR={idVendor}==  vs  ATTR{idProduct}==   mr16:26
llutz ATTR={idVendor}==  vs  ATTR{idProduct}==   MrHacks16:26
llutzMrHacks: ATTR= vs ATTR{16:26
adamuHello16:27
RexterI just did a fresh install of 13.10 on a Dell Inspiron 5030 Laptop. Ethernet worked during the install, but isn't even showing now.16:27
MrHacksllutz: I just read the manpage for udev. I see your point.16:27
ActionParsnipRexter: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,do you see the Ethernet as 'unclaimed'?16:28
llutzMrHacks: according to man udev, it's "ATTR{filename}" , no =16:29
x__Hello guys16:30
adamux__,  Hello16:30
MrHacksllutz: I caught that typo just a few seonds ago16:30
x__I have an onboard sound card that shares an output connection with a mic connection16:30
x__how can I alternate between them in Linux?16:30
x__(When I plug in a microphone)16:30
MrHacksWhat is the command to restart udev?16:30
llutzMrHacks: sudo restart udev16:31
x__hello?16:31
hoyang:)16:31
RexterActionParsnip; no I don't see "unclaimed" anywhere. driver=atl1c16:32
MrHacksSame error -71 issue. Although I corrected the rules file, the problem remains the same.16:32
MrHacks SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="1949", ATTR{idProduct}=="0007", MODE="0666"16:32
ActionParsnipRexter: unload and reload the module. May help16:33
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RexterActionParsnip; how do I do that?16:33
ActionParsnipRexter: sudo modprobe -r atl1c; sleep 3; sudo modprobe atl1c16:34
llutzMrHacks: sry no idea then. my (working) rules always use ATTRS{xx}, but i'm on debian16:34
Danatocan anybody help me test a kernel? Its for a bug test16:34
llutz!info udev16:35
ubottuudev (source: systemd): /dev/ and hotplug management daemon. In component main, is required. Version 204-0ubuntu19 (saucy), package size 1021 kB, installed size 5092 kB (Only available for linux-any)16:35
llutz204, same16:35
i3luefirei cannot log into my ubuntu machine via ssh anymore. i am not sure what changed but i am getting a "bad service request" error16:35
MrHacksllutz: I just tried adding an S to ATTR to (ATTRS). Still got the same error16:36
syeekickwhat app is best for a vnc gui ?16:38
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DRice7hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 13.10 server on a machine with an LG TV as a monitor connected to the ASRock E3C224-V+ motherboard integrated VGA. I moved the server to it's new location and now it won't boot with any other VGA monitor attached. I can detach a monitor and it boots after a little extra time. I can even plug the monitor in after booting to get tty access by using CTRL-ALT-F1, but getting into tty7 takes the monitor out of range. This has been plagui16:38
PDilyardmy HP Pavilion laptop wont wake from suspend. When I close the lid or click suspend, it will just remain at a black screen until i power it off and restart it. if i set the close lid action to "nothing" my fan runs quite a lot and the computer gets a little hot inside its case16:39
nashantHey, is it possible to use an array of values from a defaults file in an init script? I'm trying to start multiple vnc servers with different resolutions (one for laptop connection, one for tablet)16:39
schmiedci3luefire: is you ssh-daemon running?16:39
i3luefireshould be16:39
DRice7nashant: I would like to know how you got that working...once you get it working :)16:40
schmiedcto you get a response from your server via ping16:40
schmiedcor maybe some firewall blocks your ssh port16:40
DRice7if you are talking to me, yes i can ping and firewall is not a problem16:40
ActionParsnipDrice7: is there a GUI installed on the system? With mouse pointer and Firefox web browser etc?16:41
DRice7Action, I installed ubuntu desktop...yes i know - it's a server but i did it anyway lol16:41
ActionParsnipDrice7: then its a server OS. If you needed a desktop OS why not just install the desktop ISO?16:42
DRice7lets not go with the freakin grumbles here. I needed it - it happened, let's move forward16:42
PDilyardmy HP Pavilion laptop wont wake from suspend. When I close the lid or click suspend, it will just remain at a black screen until i power it off and restart it. if i set the close lid action to "nothing" my fan runs quite a lot and the computer gets a little hot inside its case16:43
borishi16:43
i3luefirei can log into it with webmin16:43
ActionParsnipDrice7: do the services given by the server start ok? Can you SSH to the server?16:44
ActionParsnipI3lufire: webmin will break yoir OS16:44
DRice7yeah, everything works like a dream except for the DISPLAY which always goes to "Unable to Open Display"16:44
DRice7i tried changing the env variable but that didn't help16:44
i3luefireschmiedc, it says type 2 (protocol error) now16:45
ActionParsnipDrice7: then who cares what the GUI is doing? Server is operational and doing it's job....16:45
DRice7I've decided that it is a resolution issue, and my monitor is not being detected because it's running through VGA16:45
DRice7I need to move Terabytes of files, and filezilla is preferable16:45
ActionParsnipDrice7: why not connect to the server using Nautilus and it will act like local storage. Lots easier16:46
DRice7Nautilus?16:46
PDilyardthe file explorer16:46
ActionParsnipDrice7: yes, the default file manager in Ubuntu16:46
DRice7mmm, pulling files off of a DLINKNAS on the network16:46
ab`how can i get radeon card shut up when i wake up my system from hibernation? i have followed internet guides and disabled it, but after hibernating and waking up, it again goes to its hungry state. it works fine if i did a normal shut down, though.16:47
medsopq236hello16:47
ActionParsnipDrice7: you will see the remote files and can copy and paste files as if they were local and its all managed for you. It can connect to SSHFS16:47
adamuDRice7, Try restarting the ssh server through webmin?16:47
adamumedsopq236, Hello how are you?16:48
DRice7i broke my webmin install at some point, need to fix that16:48
ActionParsnipDrice7: if you port forward through your router you can access the data at any time from anywhere with a web connection and securely16:48
DRice7sweet, can i setup nautilus in the CLI16:48
ActionParsnip!webmin16:48
ubottuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.16:48
DRice7lol, that explains alot - what's the webmin alternative16:48
PDilyardmy HP Pavilion laptop wont wake from suspend. When I close the lid or click suspend, it will just remain at a black screen until i power it off and restart it. if i set the close lid action to "nothing" my fan runs quite a lot and the computer gets a little hot inside its case16:48
ActionParsnipDrice7: nautilus is used on the client pc, not the server side16:49
adamuAlright I don't use webmin so I wouldn't know16:49
* PatrickDickey wonders how accurate the webmin information is... Just saying because the webmin site says they've tested it against Ubuntu and other debian based distros without issues.16:49
ActionParsnipDrice7: for a webmin alternative, read ubottu's output fully16:49
alocerDRice7, go duckduckgo and search for "alternative to webmin "16:49
DRice7PatrickDickey: It worked fine for me..until it stopped working on init.d16:49
ActionParsnipDrice7: oh the factoid changed16:49
schmiedci3luefire, didn't got this one before16:49
ActionParsnip!ebox16:49
ubottuzentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04).16:49
nashantWill this work in my init script? OPTIONS[${COUNT}]="-name \"${NAME}[${COUNT}]\" -depth \"${DEPTH}[${COUNT}]\" -geometry \"${GEOMETRY}[${COUNT}]\" :${DISPLAY}[${COUNT}]"16:50
RexterActionParsnip; ok, it shows in the network setting, but says unmanaged.16:50
MrHacksOK, new theory.  Do I really need ATTR{idProduct} when I write a udev rule?  I know who the vendor is, and the vendor is listed, just not the product itself.16:51
ActionParsnipRexter: did you set it's IP in /etc/network/interfaces ?16:51
MrMonkey31sorry if this is badly formed: is there a short answer to why'd I get "make[2]: *** No rule to make target `relpath'.  Stop." when running make? building 32-bit wine, just looking for a "duh" type mistake I might have made. ideas?16:52
* MrHacks only has a few minutes left to chat16:52
i3luefireschmiedc, i think that was there before but fully it says http://pastebin.com/CtYXKNCm16:52
RexterActionParsnip; no16:53
ActionParsnipMrmonkey31: wine is in the repos. Why are you building it16:53
ActionParsnipRexter: hmm, try: sudo dhclient eth016:54
RexterActionParsnip; Nothing special. I'll want it dhcp16:54
ActionParsnipRexter: does it succeed?16:54
adamuMrMonkey31, What is the full output of make16:54
DRice7ActionParsnip: I run windows - Nautilus was not built for me16:55
adamuDRice7, Maybe try connecting to the SSH server with filezilla over SFTP?16:55
ActionParsnipDrice7: ahhh there is an application for windows so you can map a network drive to SSHFS16:56
PatrickDickeyDRice7: Why do you say that? 99% of the people who are using Linux probably used Windows before.16:56
RexterActionParsnip; Cannot find device "eth0"16:56
DRice7and still need to figure out why I can't boot my machine if it's connected VGA16:56
bunnyflopv16:56
DRice7PatrickDickey: what?16:56
MrMonkey31adamu: oh boy.... http://pastebin.com/yC46hyHi  - thanks for readin'!16:56
DRice7ActionParsnip: reaalllly16:56
PatrickDickeyDRice7: You said I run Windows - Nautilus was not built for me.16:57
DRice7PatrickDickey: You took it too literally, slow your roll homie16:57
DRice7PatrickDickey: As in, the binary will not run on my system.16:57
MrMonkey31ActionParsnip: why are you NOT building wine? don't you want to squeeze the max goodness out of your win32 bins?16:57
PatrickDickeylol I'm blaming lack of sleep, and the fact that I've spent the last few days staring Windows 8 in the face...16:57
pozzCan anyone tell me if this is a bad idea: I moved the gedit binary to gedit.bin, then I created a shell-script named "gedit" that calls gedit.bin with the --standalone option16:58
DRice7Windows 8 is the worst thing that ever happened to PCs16:58
pozzit solved my 'have to open gedit twice' bug16:58
DRice7pozz: that should be legit16:58
ActionParsnipMrmonkey31: unless you change thebbuild config you will get the exact same config and performance of the Ubuntu build16:59
adamuMrMonkey31, I am not sure what the problem is.. are you trying to build 32bit wine on a 64bit system?16:59
ActionParsnipMrmonkey31: did you change anything in the configuration file, or any code16:59
pozzThanks DRice7. My concern is if i ever try to remove gedit... what would happen if the binary has been renamed to a .bin16:59
ActionParsnipPozz: what was the magic bullet?16:59
DRice7it will error out, or remove everything but the bin17:00
pozz I moved the gedit binary to gedit.bin, then I created a shell-script named "gedit" that calls gedit.bin with the --standalone option17:00
adamuActionParsnip, Wouldn't he get 'slightly' better performance with processor specific compiler optimizations?17:00
sacto1358ey guys where are you from?17:00
ActionParsnipAdamu: very very little17:00
MrMonkey31adamu: indeed I am.  I've gotten this error periodically, no idea why, no radical alterations to the config line, was looking for a really short, obvious answer that only a newbie mighta been unaware of.  dw about it, I'm content to leave this17:00
DRice7sacto1358: murica - why are we playing a/s/l?17:00
ActionParsnipAdamu: its a common misconception17:00
jhutchinsadamu: If you think that makes a difference you should run gentoo.17:00
pozzDRice7, that scares me a little17:00
DRice7pozz: don't remove gedit, problem solved.17:01
ActionParsnipJhutchins: i have a gentoo box17:01
adamujhutchins, I was just wondering I didn't think it made that much of a different17:01
pozzDRice7, I may want to reinstall it to try fixing a different, unknown to me at this moment, bug...17:01
DRice7pozz: the just create a small bash script to call the binary with the option17:02
DRice7again, problem solved17:02
RexterActionParsnip; thanks for your help on this. Cannot find device "eth0"17:02
sacto1358guys where are you from?17:02
sacto1358usa?17:02
DRice7sacto1358: it's the internet - probably from everywhere.17:02
ActionParsnipRexter: ok run the lshw command again, what interface name does it have?17:02
OerHekssacto1358, do you have an ubuntu support issue?17:02
ActionParsnipSacto1358: that is moot here, this is support17:03
DRice7ActionParsnip, do you have a rec. for that program that maps SSHFS in windows?17:03
sacto1358i try use other chat17:03
ActionParsnipMrMonkey31: if you dont change the build options, you will get the exact same binaries which come in via apt-get17:03
jhutchinsMrMonkey31: Perhaps it's time to read up on the format of makefiles.  If make reports no target "foo" it means that the makefile doesn't have a section named "foo".17:03
adamuMrMonkey31, When I was building wine on Slackware on a 64bit system I had to setup multilib17:03
ActionParsnipDrice7: you do, press UP cursor in the terminal, magic!17:04
jhutchinsMrMonkey31: This is why it is useful to read the README and INSTALL files, if provided.17:04
ActionParsnipDrice7: then change the interface name in the command I gave17:05
DRice7ActionParsnip: not catching the subtle comedy in your response...17:05
DRice7oh snap17:05
DRice7I didn't see a command brb17:05
Belial`anyone having issues with thunderbird no sending notifications of new mail?17:05
MrMonkey31adamu: aye, and go through a minor heck involving it.  but you can't build the 64 bit wine if you want to do what most wine users use wine for. to clarify, I'm not noob at this task, just in general I am.17:06
RexterActionParsnip; same as before. I thought it was a driver issue. What we have done has changed my mind in that. I think the interface is installed, just to connected to the  network management tool somehow.17:06
ThibaultmolHi all, I'm having a hard time figuring out how to add what I have to put in the custom_40 file to make a entry to boot into init317:06
MrMonkey31jhutchins: I try to be effective, but don't you agree that sometimes there's a really short quick reason, but you've got to ask that right question?  guess this wasn't one of those cases, that's all17:06
adamuMrMonkey31, Okay17:06
DRice7ActionParsnip: okay i scrolled up, I see no command lol - can you throw it out again17:07
david__hello17:08
ActionParsnipDrice7: sudo lshw -C network17:08
DRice7ty17:08
saotomeI am trying to make an upstart service. I created the .conf file in /etc/init (https://gist.github.com/enmanuelr/7721603). When I try to start the service I get the usual "start/running" state, but the process isn't actually running. What am I doing wrong?17:08
ThibaultmolDoes anyone know how to add an entry in GRUB to make linux boot in init3?17:10
llutz!runlevel | Thibaultmol there is no "init 3" in ubuntu17:10
ubottuThibaultmol there is no "init 3" in ubuntu: In Ubuntu all runlevels except 0,1 and 6 are by default equal. Also keep in mind that Ubuntu now uses !Upstart instead of System V init so there is normally no /etc/inittab.17:10
llutz!nox | Thibaultmol this might do what you want17:11
ubottuThibaultmol this might do what you want: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode17:11
ActionParsnipThibaultmol: add the boot option "text" and it will boot to runlevel 317:11
ThibaultmolBasicly what I'm trying to do is install the official Nvidia driver and I'm kinda new to all of this and all of it seems like I'm doing something wrong17:12
ThibaultmolI tried using the ctrl + alt + F1 thing but it doesn't seem to recognize my login details as root17:13
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llutzThibaultmol: there is no active root-account in *buntu, use useraccount + sudo then17:14
RexterThibaultmol; can't you use the repositories?17:14
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ThibaultmolThe weird thing was that it says I have to pop in the install disk which makes me thing I'm doing something wrong17:14
PatrickDickeyThibaultmol: If you have the .deb file downloaded, you use sudo dpkg -i name.deb17:15
i3luefirewhere can i read the log files for sshd?17:15
anchxI am having troubles installing py_bcrypt OR bcrypt at 12.04 with python 3.2, any idea?17:15
PatrickDickeyThibaultmol: That probably means that your disc is still listed in the sources files.17:15
adamuThibaultmol,  make sure you blacklist nouveau in /etc/modprobe.d/  since you can't install the nvidia drivers while nouveau is loaded17:15
_root_In nginx i get 2013/11/30 20:06:01 [crit] 2403#0: *8 connect() to unix:/var/run/php5-fpm/forums.socket failed (2: No such file or directory) while connecting to upstream, but i did mkdir -p /var/run/php5-fpm/17:16
Thibaultmoladamu: I have blacklisted that, I need to restart I assume17:17
adamui3luefire, I believe it is /var/log/auth.log or /var/log/auth17:17
adamuThibaultmol, Yeah17:17
pos_I need to be root to init 6, but why don't I need to be root to reboot with the gui?17:19
ActionParsnipPos_: no you dont17:19
stowellyHi, I have 13,10 but my keyboard seems to be stuck in US layout, when i need UK, all settings in menus seem to display english uk, but still the layout isnt changing. any ideas?17:19
ActionParsnipPos_: sudo init 617:19
pos_ActionParsnip: ok, sudo then.  How come I don't need to sudo with the GUI?17:20
ActionParsnipPos_: or use the menu in the top right17:20
ActionParsnipPos_: it uses polkit17:20
pos_ActionParsnip: I want a user to be able to reboot the box from a terminal without giving them root privs17:20
ActionParsnipPos_: you could add shutdown to not need a password entry (it will still need sudo)17:21
MrMonkey31jhutchins: thanks for the tips.  it's actually *past* time that I studied the format of makefiles.  but so far I'm just trying to get by, for my first few months of linux usage :>)17:21
pos_ActionParsnip: Ahhh.  I'll look into that then.  THanks17:21
stowellyeven the @keyboard layout chart@ that it shows in the settings shows UK layout, so i dont understand the issue....17:21
adamu you could make it suid? sudo chmod +s /usr/sbin/reboot - (would this be secure)17:21
ActionParsnipPos_: or you can add it in sudoers so that certain users can use the shutdown command etc.17:21
ActionParsnipAdanu: nice!17:22
ActionParsnipPos_: use suid as above :-)17:22
llutzadamu: you don't want set suid-root if its not really needed17:22
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ActionParsnipLlutz: lets anyone use the binary :-)17:24
llutzActionParsnip: nice idea17:24
ActionParsnipLlutz: shutdown etc, you get the idea17:24
adamucan you exploit /etc/sudoers if you don't use absolute paths?17:25
thibaultmol_Adamu: I rebooted so how am I supposed to install the driver in the best way?17:25
adamunot you but an external attacker17:25
adamuthibaultmol_, I would go into init 3 and run NVIDIA-INSTALLER.run17:25
thibaultmol_adamu: but I can't login for some reason. it says my login is incorrect even though I enter with root and my root password which I have checked in the terminal17:26
adamuthibaultmol_, login your user (e.g. thibaultmol_ ) then sudo su17:27
llutzsudo -i17:27
thibaultmol_adamu: that doesn't work either for some reason17:27
adamuwhat doesn't logging in as thibaultmol_  ?17:27
thibaultmol_adamu: Well my username is thibaultmol but somehow after I enter my password it says that they are incorrect17:28
asgood choice for a username. types easily :P17:28
adamuthibaultmol_, oh well thats a different problem in and of itself make sure caps lock is disabled..17:28
ActionParsnipThibaultmol_: try: less /etc/passwd ,verify the username17:29
thibaultmol_adamu: I have typed my password in the username box at some point to check if it was typed correctly and that was fine17:29
thibaultmol_ActionParsnip: ill check that, sec17:30
llutzthibaultmol_: "getent passwd thibaultmol"17:30
adamuthibaultmol_, Is there an account you can login to on the system?17:30
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thibaultmol_ActionParsnip: Don't exactly understand what I need to check for there17:32
thibaultmol_llutz: I get this as a result: thibaultmol:x:1000:1000:Thibault Molleman,,,:/home/thibaultmol:/bin/bash17:32
thibaultmol_llutz: so I get that means it works17:32
llutzthibaultmol_: at least the username is correct17:32
ActionParsnipIt shows you are using the right username.17:33
thibaultmol_ActionParsnip: well I got a big list of things, that good?17:33
ActionParsnipThibaultmol_: yes those are the user and system accounts17:33
thibaultmol_ActionParsnip: 'thibaultmol' is in there17:34
thibaultmol_Ill have to figure out the issue another time, I have to.. bye17:35
MysterytrainI know i can open up sources.list but is there a command to show the repositories you have enabled17:45
thor_do any of you know a wiki desktop software that allows collaboration?17:48
thor_haha.. asking questions on a saturday night. optimistic :D17:51
usr13thor_: There are several17:51
thor_usr13, can you remember some of them?17:52
thor_usr13, or do you use one yourself?17:52
thor_usr13, I use Zim wiki, and love it. but Im not sure It can do collaboration17:53
usr13thor_: Well, don't know about "desktop" software, (not sure what "desktop software" means).  But I've used pmwiki17:53
usr13http://www.pmwiki.org/17:53
saotomeI am trying to make an upstart service. I created the .conf file in /etc/init (https://gist.github.com/enmanuelr/7721603). When I try to start the service I get the usual "start/running" state, but the process isn't actually running. What am I doing wrong?17:53
usr13saotome: Is the executable bit set for it?17:53
usr13saotome: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/17:55
saotomeusr13, it was not. I changed it but it made no difference17:55
usr13saotome: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/getting-started.html17:55
thor_usr13, thanks man :) pmwiki looks like the right thing for me :) have a fun Saturday night17:55
i3luefireok. i am still having issues logging into my system via ssh. here are some logs and the error putty gives http://pastebin.com/9u4Waiun17:56
DRice7Anyone have experience dealing with generic monitors not being detected?17:58
usr13saotome: Do you get any results runing the script from a terminal?18:00
usr13saotome: Is the script operational?18:01
saotomeusr13, yup everything is fine if I run manually.18:01
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mdkessDoes anyone have experience with Ubuntu and high res screens? I want to pick up the Dell XPS 15 9530, which has a not too shabby 15.6" 3200x1800 screen, and I was wondering how well that would work out. Anyone have experience with this sort of thing?18:05
usr13saotome: ls -l /etc/init/your-scrip   #Tell us what it says.18:05
usr13-rw-r--r--  or -rwxr-xr-x  ?18:06
saotomeusr13, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 580 Nov 30 13:04 /etc/init/panacea.conf18:06
usr13saotome: sudo chmod +x /etc/init/panacea.conf18:07
saotomeusr13, the getting start page says it shouldn't be executable, and none of the other existing .conf files are executable18:07
usr13(you need to enable the executable bit for it.)18:07
saotomeusr13 "Jobs are defined in files placed in /etc/init, the name of the job is the filename under this directory without the .conf extension. They are plain text files and should not be executable."18:07
saotomeusr13, ok18:07
usr13Oh, it's not the script?18:07
saotomeusr13, I feel like I'm missing something18:08
usr13saotome: That is not where the conf file goes.  Just in /etc  is ok18:08
saotomeusr13, I have the conf file, and the exec line points to a binary. There is no "script". Is that what I'm missing?18:08
usr13saotome: You are missing something.  .conf is for a config file, not a start script.18:09
saotomeusr13, so the conf should point to the script, and the script should point to the binary?18:09
rallias_compbadIs there an ISO available that supports all drivers in the full desktop install that fits on a CD?18:10
hassenwhy in most of caricature pictures ,they  present ubuntu as the winner while windows as the sick/loser one?18:11
saotomehassen, who makes the caricatures?18:11
compdocracism18:11
hassensaotome, e.g google images ubuntu vs windows18:11
hassenor linux vs windows18:12
saotomehassen, why does PC lose to Mac in ads commissioned by Apple?18:12
hassensaotome, become apple has made those ads in such context18:12
saotomehassen, a lot of us think that linux is superior to windows in many respect. Some of us have a lot of free time and express that sentimient in the form of immature images.18:13
saotomehassen, people will always defend that which they like18:13
rallias_compbadIs there any way to add my wireless driver to the mini.iso distribution item?18:13
hassensaotome, according to you which one?18:13
usr13saotome: Usually, not always.18:14
nashantIs this valid in a init.d default file? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6500244/18:14
usr13saotome: Actually, some will objectively state that one OS would be better for some things, and another would be good for others, one has more overall versatility, has more customizable features, easier to secure, etc. etc.18:16
saotomeusr13, completely agree. The ones that aren't objective, among other things, make silly pictures.18:17
saotomeusr13, which is what hassen is asking after all18:17
Kartagiswhat's the command to reload a module in use?18:17
usr13One particular Ford may be better than a Chevy but another particular Chevy may be better than another particular Ford model in some respects but not in others.18:18
m0rtРебят, говорит кто по русски18:19
bonhoefferso ubuntu is hung at the splash screen, any options?18:19
llutznashant: dash (ubuntus default system shell) has no var[index] syntax for arrays, that's a bashism18:19
lonewulf85dimmer switch does not work in ubuntu 12.0418:20
geirhanashant: In other words, yes, if you set the script's shebang to #!/bin/bash18:20
usr13bonhoeffer: Any errors?  (Hit Esc key and see if there is anyting more...)18:20
bonhoefferusr13: esc key doesn't do anything18:21
geirhanashant: You should use lowercase variable names though, to avoid accidentally overriding special shell variables (which are all uppercase)18:21
bonhoefferstill logo with five bullets underneath18:21
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usr13bonhoeffer: Not much telling....18:22
louisdkI'm doing some partition work with Gparted. I'm just wordering if the swap should be inside or outside an extended partition?18:22
usr13bonhoeffer: Are the bullets flashing?18:22
llutzlouisdk: makes no difference18:23
bonhoefferusr13: no18:23
louisdkllutz: Okay. Thanks.18:23
usr13louisdk: Partitions are partitions, no matter if they are logical or primary ones.18:23
SASDOEcan anyone test my website for me? I would like to know if the redirection works. And if it is masked or not: http://4242.co/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=42e5e7537289b08515edc43e75beb47518:23
usr13louisdk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning18:25
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hassenwew,doing stuff in ubuntu requires some manual work,unlike windows where you just get the mouse and double click in ane exe installation thingy to get things18:26
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SASDOEhassen: that what some people want18:27
usr13hassen: That is true in some cases and not in others.18:27
hassenthat's good for learning IT i guess18:28
zerowaitstatehassen: the upside to that is if you want something very specific you can usually beat Linux into submission.18:28
usr13hassen: Most any task on a modern GUI can be set to a point and click experience no matter if it is MS-Windos or Linux18:28
zerowaitstateLinux has a lot more knobs to turn and buttons to push18:28
usr13hassen: So pointing and clicking is not a good comparison18:28
DanatoSASDOE: what is it supposed to show?18:29
SASDOEa screenshot18:29
hassenusr13, yep,you learn typing scripts18:30
bonhoefferusr13: any troubleshooting options?18:30
usr13hassen: Comparing one computer OS to another is very complicated - would be an endless conversation.18:30
SASDOEif I try via HMA web it works, but a friend tells me he sees the it works page. How could that be possible?18:30
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usr13bonhoeffer: You might test your RAM.  (Not knowing much about your system, it is hard to tell)18:31
usr13bonhoeffer: Did you try the recovery option at boot?18:31
SASDOEDanato: what do you see?18:32
DanatoSASDOE: all i see is a blank page, but i checked the source and i found this http://4242.no-ip.org/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=42e5e7537289b08515edc43e75beb47518:32
usr13!recovery bonhoeffer18:32
usr13!recovery | bonhoeffer18:32
ubottubonhoeffer: To rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"18:32
usr13!text | bonhoeffer18:33
ubottubonhoeffer: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode18:33
SASDOEDanato: annoying18:33
SASDOEDanato: Thanks though18:33
DanatoSASDOE: no problem18:34
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hassenbhow to run a 'file_name.deb' file?by "suso bash file_name.deb" ?18:35
hassenhow*18:35
zerowaitstate!dpkg18:36
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.18:36
SASDOEDanato: any ideas why I can access it fine with hma web?18:36
zerowaitstatedpkg -i blah.deb18:36
hassenzerowaitstate, understood,thanks18:36
zerowaitstatewell sudo dpkg -i blah.deb18:37
DanatoSASDOE: whats hma?18:37
lonewulf85dimmer no work in Ubuntu 12.04 x6418:37
SASDOEDanato: hide my ass. a web proxy18:37
DanatoSASDOE: jst wanted to make sure, let me try18:38
DanatoSASDOE: yeah i see it too18:39
SASDOEDanato: does 4242.co/owncloud work or not at all?18:40
Danatoit works using hide my ass18:40
zeldakI can't configure Debian, so I came to ubuntu ;'(18:40
SASDOEDanato: how can it work through a web proxy but not without?18:41
jack2091ciao18:42
jack2091! list18:42
ubottujack2091: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:42
jack2091ciao!18:42
geirhazeldak: and now you need help configuring ubuntu, or ...?18:42
jack2091list18:42
DJones!piracy | jack209118:42
ubottujack2091: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o18:42
zeldakgeirha, well it's like ... no18:43
DanatoSASDOE: ive never seen that tbh18:43
zeldakgeirha, but you could awnser me a thing?18:43
SASDOEDanato: could it have something to do with more up to date DNS servers than others?18:44
geirhazeldak: Depends on whether I know the answer or not18:44
zeldakgeirha, if you know you would awnswer me?18:44
usr13zeldak: If you have a question, ask it.18:44
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zeldakusr13, geirha, well why do we have 3 FloodBots?18:45
usr13zeldak: If you have a question about Ubuntu, ask it.18:45
zeldakusr13, ;'(18:46
DanatoSASDOE: I dont know much about servers and how they work to be able to give you any valuable information18:46
usr13!topic18:46
ubottuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic18:46
SASDOEDanato: Thanks any way!18:47
DanatoSASDOE: anytime18:47
jack2091ciao18:51
geirhazeldak: Probably to increase the chance of being on both sides of a netsplit. #ubuntu-bots may have a more correct answer.18:51
jack2091! list18:51
ubottujack2091: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:51
bonhoefferusr13: got it i'll try recovery mode18:52
zeldakgeirha, hmm cool18:52
jack2091ciao18:53
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awesomess3I noticed the ubuntu CD image is 883 MB. Can't a CD only store ~700 MB?18:56
fedosgadYes18:57
awesomess3So it's more or less a DVD image, per say?18:57
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fedosgadI think it's less18:57
DJonesawesomess3: Yes they've been dvd/usb images for a couple of releases18:59
jhutchinsawesomess3: The days when a whole distro fit on two CDs are long gone.19:00
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somersettI'm getting excruciatingly slow samba speeds (0.03MB/sec)19:03
dreamon_Need help Usb3.0 is not working on lenovo g580 notebook. plug it in usb2.0 hdd works without problem.(on same machine) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6500291/19:04
fuzzballIf I put, lets say, /bin and /lib into a ramdisk, with links in / to them, if I do an 'ls' into '/lib' or '/lib/modules/, would the harddisk be woken up from the call to / ?19:05
pauliciousquelqu'un à un bug souri où on peut pas utiliser le clic gauche ?19:07
geoffmccsomersett: do you have a firewall enabled?19:07
BluesKaj!fr > paulicious19:08
ubottupaulicious, please see my private message19:08
SomelauwI don't know if more people experience this bug, but  update-alternatives --list javaws doesn't show /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/javaw for me19:08
somersettI don't believe so. This is on a LAN, pushing files from a Ubuntu PC to a Windows 7 public folder, both have gigabit NICs and are connected to a gigabit switch19:09
Somelauwtoo lazy to register on the main site, so i hope i can report it here19:09
geirhaSomelauw: Well, is icedtea installed?19:09
geirhaSomelauw: Also, easier to use update-java-alternatives. It sets the symlinks for all the java files in one go19:10
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somersettgeoffmcc: This is on a LAN, pushing files from a Ubuntu PC to a Windows 7 public folder, both have gigabit NICs and are connected to a gigabit switch19:12
daftykinssomersett: what's your speed the other way around? have you tested with 'iperf' to confirm there's no driver issue?19:13
PatrickDickeysomersett: does it happen the other way around also (pushing a file from Windows 7 to Ubuntu)?19:13
geoffmccsomersett: i was just looking into it and some people said disable firewall caused to speed up, dont sound like that your problem. others say is driver issue for network card19:13
somersettI did try accesssing a FTP server on the Ubuntu box from the Win7 box and got the same 0.03MB/sec19:14
daftykinssomersett: right, get iperf and test your throughput19:14
hassenGiven that a partition labelled "2nd" is already mounted,how to access it in the terminal?19:14
daftykinsit'll rule out protocols and hard disks19:14
somersettHowever Dropbox yields 5MB/sec19:15
daftykinshassen: type "mount" and see where it's been put19:15
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deserteaglehello all!19:15
deserteagleanyone know how to work with inotify?19:15
PatrickDickeyhassen: mount will show you the location that it's mounted at, and then cd /path-to-mount-point will take you there.19:15
jmgkhi all19:15
vaskuciaooooo :)19:15
vasku!list19:16
ubottuvasku: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».19:16
PatrickDickeysomersett: Is either one of the directories located on a USB drive?19:16
DRice7So I have an error in my Xorg.log about the AST module not being loaded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6500424/ then I found this driver: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ast/ - can someone walk me through how to get this installed?19:16
dondopaUbuntu 13.10 is quite buggy with nautilus when using Samba19:17
jmgkhi a..19:17
dondopaSometimes I turn on the computer and as a I log in i get random system error messages19:17
somersettNo. Win7 is on an internal SATA. Ubuntu is on IDE. When the box was running Windows XP, throughput was 10-30MB/sec.19:17
dondopaBut nothing serious19:17
Bruteyay ubuntu#19:17
rodney77Hi, I'm having a hard time getting ubuntu to support the features of my ultrabook. it's an MSI s20 and it supports auto screen rotation, multitouch, and HD graphics, none of which work right now. I'm on 12.04. Does anyone have any help for me on that?19:17
hassendaftykins, PatrickDickey understood,thanks.19:18
PatrickDickeyDRice7: I'd say download it, and check the README file. They typically have installation instructions.19:18
dondoparodney try Ubuntu 13.1019:18
daftykinsDRice7: which graphics card is it?19:18
DRice7PatrickDickey: I git cloned it and it just says what the git clone is, in the README19:18
daftykinssomersett: like i said, look into iperf.19:18
DRice7daftykins: it's the built in VGA card on an ASRock E3C224-V+19:18
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DRice7Anytime I plug an external monitor in, I can't boot the server having problems redirection the DISPLAY variable, etc etc...I think this is my fix19:19
PatrickDickeyDRice7: ./Configure typically will be a good place to start, then make and sudo make install. But I'd look around their site for documentation then.19:19
Brutewho has skype19:19
* PatrickDickey I have skype.19:20
daftykinsDRice7: is this not a server system with a server OS though?19:20
DRice7PatrickDickey: The site is a bit shoddy for navigation - thanks for the info :)19:20
Brutemessage me your skype19:20
DRice7daftykins: I know, I know - why do I need a GUI...I'm moving a bunch of files using Filezilla from my DLINKNAS to the local hard drives19:20
PatrickDickeyBrute: Um, I only message my skype name to hot women. LOL Is there a particular problem that you're having?19:21
Somelauwnot sure what ice tea is, but the file I mentioned does exist, so there is no reason update-alternatives shouldn't find it19:21
Bruteyes with Tor19:21
BruteI do all the things people say on ubuntuforums and i still get the same error19:21
daftykinsDRice7: which protocols does said NAS file share with? it'd be easy to copy them over with samba access19:21
PatrickDickeyWhat error are you getting Brute?19:22
DRice7samba is super slow19:22
DRice7talking about TBs of data19:22
PatrickDickeySomelauw: icedtea is the open source version of Java.19:22
daftykinsDRice7: hrmm over gigabit LAN it shouldn't be :D19:22
PatrickDickey!java > Somelauw19:22
BruteVidalia was unable to start Tor. Check your settings to ensure the correct name and location of your Tor executable is specified.19:22
ubottuSomelauw, please see my private message19:22
SomelauwI didn't know about update-java-alternatives. I first tried setting them each manually, then I just uninstalled java6, so everything got updated automatically.19:22
Brutei downloaded tor from ubuntu software thingy.19:22
SomelauwPatrickDickey: if apt-get install openjdk7 install icetea, then yes19:22
DRice7dafty, 10 MB/s vs 25 MB/s difference using FTP over samba for this configuration19:22
Somelauwthen i got icetea19:23
PatrickDickeytor | Brute19:23
PatrickDickeySorry.19:23
Bruteyes19:23
PatrickDickey!tor | Brute19:23
ubottuBrute: Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl19:23
Brutei know19:23
daftykinsDRice7: anyway, i see googling the exact graphics driver gives ubuntu and other distro downloads for a graphics driver from Asus19:23
DRice7PatrickDickey: I have an auutogen.sh - but when I run it, I get an error about autoreconf not being found19:23
SomelauwPatrickDickey: So icetea is a codename for openjdk?19:24
daftykinsDRice7: i would certainly trust Asus file downloads, or even the graphics manufacturer 'ASpeed' themselves19:24
PatrickDickeyBrute: It sounds like it didn't install right, or you need a symlink to the actual bin file.19:24
DRice7daftykins, holy hell what google search did you do19:24
PatrickDickeySomelauw: It's the version name, If I remember right.19:24
Brutei installed it from Ubuntu Software center not torproject19:24
daftykinsDRice7: first i googled the motherboard and came up with: http://www.asrock.com/server/overview.asp?Model=E3C224-V%2B19:25
PatrickDickeyBrute: That doesn't matter. Their documentation will still help you figure out the problem.19:25
daftykinsDRice7: that told me the adapter is an Aspeed AST1300 (perhaps you can confirm with 'lspci' ?)19:25
douglI thot tor users were up to no good?19:25
SivaHi Guys..19:26
DRice706:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ASPEED Technology, Inc. ASPEED Graphics Family (rev 21)19:26
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PatrickDickeydougl: Only the ones who use it for malicious reasons. But there are a lot of people using it for good. It was one of the main ways to report on the Olympics in Bejing a few years ago, for example.19:26
daftykinsDRice7: so a completely different board admittedly, but it has downloads for that adapter for Ubuntu versions, give it a try: http://www.asus.com/gr/support/Download/5/33/P9D-C4L/8/19:26
daftykinsDRice7: 0.98 appears the newest as per the aspeed website19:27
douglPatrickDickey, enuff said - lesson learned = thank you :)19:27
* PatrickDickey knows people who use it so they can watch BBC programs in America.19:27
PatrickDickeydougl: Not a problem.19:27
douglah19:27
DRice7daftykins, you are the man - hang tight while I download this stuff19:27
daftykinsDRice7: ok i'm going to cook now - let me know how it goes :)19:27
PatrickDickeydougl: There are "grey areas" though. One of my friends used it to play a game off of a European server. It was a faster server than the ones in the US.19:28
douglPatrickDickey, I understand... everything is a double edged sword these days19:29
PatrickDickeydougl: Exactly.19:29
jmgkhi all19:29
douglhi19:30
peroi have a laptop that often slows down to a crawl with / on an ssd, and /home on a regular drive; running iotop sees  gnome-key~nts=pkcs11 writing intermittently at 3m/s and [jbd2/sdb1-8] soemtimes going crazy - thoughts?19:33
jmgkok guys19:34
hitsujiTMOpero: can you pastebin the output of: df -h19:34
jmgkoverall what is a better client for Ubuntu. Irssi or chat?19:34
dougljmgk, we will get frowned at if we chat in here but is this text colored19:34
jmgkI know it depends on the preferences19:34
douglxchat19:34
jmgk?19:34
jmgkhm19:34
douglxchat is what I found years ago and I am comfortable with it jmgk19:35
jmgkah19:35
hitsujiTMOdougl: if you want a graphical client go with hexchat, otherwise irssi or weechat seem to be the more popular in cli19:35
jmgkI feel like more and more are going to text based clients per se19:35
douglpirc and mirc on windows19:35
perohitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/X9EGGxR419:35
jmgkhitsujiTMO:  do you prefer CLI ?19:35
hitsujiTMOjmgk: i'm using hexchat. I haven't actually tested the cli clients19:36
* dougl googling hexchat19:36
jmgkah19:36
jmgkHexchat is a newer version of Xchat dougl19:36
jmgkits the same thing19:36
dougllol19:36
douglthanks19:36
jmgkhehe yeah19:37
jmgk:P19:37
hassenomg...i got many thoughts about what to install and try in ubuntu so much that i became confused ,and finally i ended up staring at the scren haha19:37
hassen*screen*19:37
hitsujiTMOpero: have you tried running?: fstrim -v /19:38
perohitsujiTMO: no - should i?19:38
douglhassen, what do you do on your computer?19:39
hitsujiTMOpero: try it. although i don't think its your issue, but can be worth a shot19:39
hitsujiTMOpero: also have you enabled automatic trim?19:39
hassendougl, can't tell what exactly..maybe i must refresh my mind a bit.19:39
perotrim should be enabled19:40
pero,/: 59467685888 bytes were trimmed19:40
* hassen is curious about ubuntu19:40
douglhassen, pm?19:41
hassendougl, sure19:41
hitsujiTMOpero: looks like its not. if those apps are dealing with a lot of tiny files then having auto trim on may cause problems.19:41
hitsujiTMOpero: from that output i'm guessing trim is not enabled atleast19:41
peroyeah, that's 55gb19:41
hitsujiTMOpero: when it slows down, what exactly is happening?19:43
perohitsujiTMO: just really slow reads/writes19:43
perolike a movie will take 30 minutes to seek19:43
perohitsujiTMO: i think that did the trick actually19:44
hitsujiTMOpero: give it a bit of time and if that worked then the best thing to do is set that as a daily cron19:45
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perohitsujiTMO: can't i enable autotrim somewhere?19:45
hitsujiTMOpero: you can but that could cause a similar issue if any app is deleting a lot of small files19:46
perohitsujiTMO: it's just a regular computer - i don't really do much other than use a browser19:47
somersettdaftykins: I got 562Mbps between the Win7 and Ubuntu machines on iperf19:47
daftykinssomersett: be sure to use a good 32KB or so packet size19:47
balrog-k1nhi, i'm trying to install wine on a 64-bit system, i did dpkg --add-architecture i386 but now everytime i ask apt-get to install a i386 package it wants to remove everything 64-bit (or so it looks), what's wrong?19:48
daftykinssomersett: and mix up which is the host and which is the client in order to be sure19:48
hitsujiTMOpero: its best to just run it as a daily cron. you can just create a bash script with just "fstrim /" and put it in /etc/cron.daily   or if you really want to enable auto trim. add the discard option to your ssd mounts in /etc/fstab19:48
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somersettdaftykins, what am I testing for here. We know that iperf has good throughput, so obviously the issue isn't in this application.19:49
perohitsujiTMO: i'll take your word for it - thanks19:49
daftykinssomersett: you're confirming the network adapter drivers are good for that throughput19:50
daftykinssomersett: was it Windows 7 you said at the other end? have you made the registry tweaks which make it better at file serving?19:51
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rodney77is there a way yet to get unity to autohide the top panel?19:52
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DanatohitsujiTMO: are you here?19:53
DRice7daftykins: I'm running into issues creating an xorg.conf19:54
daftykinsDRice7: how-so?19:54
daftykinsDRice7: you might not even need one19:54
somersettdaftykins. It's 562Mbps with the Win7 machine as server and 635Mbps with the Ubuntu as server.19:55
DRice7Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.19:55
daftykinssomersett: with a TCP window of 32KB?19:55
DRice7just skip xorg.conf?19:55
daftykinsDRice7: your log before showed it was already trying to look for the module, if what you installed has provided that module, you may not need a config19:55
somersettWIndow size jumps around. One was 22KB, another was 85.3KB19:55
daftykinsDRice7: if you do, i would expect you just need the one device section with the name of the module that that driver installed - hopefully it came with a readme to suggest what it provided19:56
DRice7daftykins: I like your logic - the auto-update.sh seems to have taken care of things...now to reboot19:56
daftykinssomersett: no, it's a value you set on the command line when creating both a server and a client19:57
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daftykinssomersett: e.g. iirc: "iperf -s -w 32K" and "iperf -w 32K -c <IP>"19:57
dreamon_Need help Usb3.0 is not working on lenovo g580 notebook. plug it in usb2.0 hdd works without problem.(on same machine) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6500291/19:58
daftykinsdreamon_: so is it an external hard disk?19:58
dreamon_YES19:58
daftykinsdreamon_: and you see nothing from 'sudo fdisk -l' after connecting?19:59
somersettdaftykins: This program is kind of screwy. When I test my Debian laptop as client (802.11n), I get 80Mbps. When the laptop is server, I get 34.4Gbps19:59
daftykinsGbps? heh that's a bit iffy19:59
daftykinsmaybe you've just got some sketchy builds19:59
rajumohthe maximum resolution supported on my laptop is 1360X768, is it possible to increase it to 1600x900?20:00
dreamon_daftykins, no.. only the existing drivers20:00
daftykinsrajumoh: no20:00
daftykinsrajumoh: unless you mean that the screen is 1600x900 but Ubuntu won't offer you that resolution?20:00
rajumohdaftykins: u got the question right first time :-D20:01
daftykins;)20:01
dreamon_daftykins, same here -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218055/usb-3-0-port-with-usb-3-0-device-in-ubuntu-12-1020:01
daftykinsyep you can't draw more pixels on a screen with a finite amount20:01
daftykinsdreamon_: is 12.10 what you're using too?20:01
dreamon_daftykins, No. 12.04.3 kernel 3.8.0.3320:02
rajumohdaftykins: i was wondering if it could be as a software wrapper solution, i know the  output might look a bit sketchy but would increase the screen realestate20:03
daftykinsdreamon_: is that the newest raring backport kernel?20:03
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jmgkhi rajumoh20:03
daftykinsrajumoh: if there is, i have no idea - sorry. i think it would become unreadable20:03
rajumohdaftykins: yeah figured the same, but wanted to actually have a look as to how bad it would be, thanks anyways20:04
daftykinsnp20:04
dreamon_daftykins, I think so. backports are active.System is up to date20:05
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FrancisH_hey guys have any of you ever encrypted and setup a mail server on ubuntu, or ubuntu server?20:06
daftykinsdreamon_: hrmm, it's a bit beyond my experience then i'm afraid. i would maybe boot a live session from the USB 2 port of a newer ubuntu, (with a newer kernel) then connect the drive and see what it does. (or just put a newer kernel on)20:07
gioacchinociao20:08
gioacchino!list20:08
ubottugioacchino: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:08
dreamon_daftykins, I will do so.. think it could be a problem of the usb3.0 to sata adapter I used getting the hdd to work20:08
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daftykinsdreamon_: could be - if you had another system to test it on that'd probably be handy too20:10
hallahI'd like to inteject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.20:12
hallahMany computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.20:12
hallahThere really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in20:12
hallahcombination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.20:12
FloodBot1hallah: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:12
fabydonciaociao a tutti20:12
\u03b5I'm not sure I understand how to enable apport's crash intercepter without it transmitting the resulting dump to launchpad and whatnot. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Ubuntu_12.04_and_later seems to imply it would transmit them20:13
\u03b5so is there a better resource than [[Apport]] on how to configure it?20:14
kostkonhallah, take your propaganda elsewhere please20:18
fabydonciao!list20:18
ubottufabydonciao: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:18
hallahkostkon, it's obvious you do not use software that is free as in freedom20:19
ActionParsnipHallah: do you have an Ubuntu support question?20:19
bekkshallah: It is offtopic in here.20:20
hitsujiTMO!ot | hallah this is a support channel not a channel on discussing topics you don't fully understand. maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic and someone there might take the time to explain the fallacies in your understanding of what linux and gnu/linux actually are20:20
ubottuhallah this is a support channel not a channel on discussing topics you don't fully understand. maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic and someone there might take the time to explain the fallacies in your understanding of what linux and gnu/linux actually are: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:20
hallahyeah, why do you ubuntu users keep refering to GNU/Linux as just "Linux"?20:21
hallahdumbfucks20:21
ActionParsnipHallah: you can chitchat all you want in #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu20:21
hallahnice wannabe-moderating ActionParsnip20:21
hallahsuck mod dick some more20:21
ActionParsnipWhat a strange person20:21
hitsujiTMODanato: yes i am here20:22
daftykinsi only wish i were still surprised by such types20:22
Pici!guidelines > hallah20:22
ubottuhallah, please see my private message20:22
BluesKajhallah , cut  and paste somewhere else20:22
\u03b5should I restate my question?20:22
bekks\u03b5: yes please20:22
ActionParsnip\u03b5: please20:23
\u03b5I'm not sure I understand how to enable apport's crash intercepter without it transmitting the resulting dump to launchpad and whatnot. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#Ubuntu_12.04_and_later seems to imply it would transmit them20:23
\u03b5so is there a better resource than [[Apport]] on how to configure it?20:23
DanatohitsujiTMO: nice, sorry for bothering you again, but can I have your assistance testing the new kernel again?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/125005120:23
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250051 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo G780] Backlight switched off at login screen" [Medium,Incomplete]20:23
DanatohitsujiTMO: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.13-rc2-trusty/20:23
somersettdaftykins: With 32KB window size, it's 633Mbps. The link maxes out at 741Mbps at 64KB20:23
\u03b5I'm looking to enable it so that I may access a crashing program's core dump later20:23
daftykinssomersett: cool - and the win7 reg modifications? have you made them already or not?20:24
\u03b5the program is not issued from the repos20:24
ActionParsnipDanato: what is the output of: uname -a20:24
KishlayShutdown button not working on ubunt 13.10   Can someone help please?20:25
somersettdaftykins: What kinds of mods?20:25
aguitelanyone trying to install epson multifunction cx 5600 ?20:25
ActionParsnipKishlay: do you mean in the dropdown in the top right?20:25
DanatoActionParsnip: 3.11.0-13-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 23 07:38:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:25
Kishlay<ActionParsnip> Yes20:26
daftykinssomersett: two registry key value changes to improve file serving on win720:26
lazohello guy20:26
ActionParsnipDanato: then get the 2 deb files with 'amd64' in the name and the one will 'all' in it20:26
ActionParsnipKishlay: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now ,does it power off20:27
somersettdaftykins: What are they? You would think performance would be decent without them, but I'll try them.20:27
PDilyardi have a .sh file that starts several terminals and runs commands in each one. how can i ssh into my server, start these scripts, and then close the ssh session but leave those other scripts running?20:27
Kishlay<ActionParsnip> Yes I have tried that20:27
Kishlay<ActionParsnip> that will shutdown... But i want the dropdown button to work20:28
ActionParsnipKishlay: does it power off?20:28
hitsujiTMO   Danato this should do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6500964/      just do the same as you did with 3.12 kernel. if this has the same issue where it won't boot. I'd also try grabbing the latest trusty daily build and see if the issue is on the daily build too.20:28
ActionParsnipKishlay: ok, i suggest you report a bug, you have a workaround for now20:28
daftykinssomersett: performance is, but it can be kinda buggy. windows 7 is sold as a client OS so no, file serving is not one of its' prerequisites20:28
anew-bash: !": "event not found"20:29
anewi get that when i'm running my perl script in ubuntu20:29
anewany idea wtf it means20:29
daftykinssomersett: http://alan.lamielle.net/2009/09/03/windows-7-nonpaged-pool-srv-error-201720:29
Kishlay<ActionParsnip> Thanks...   I have already reported the bug and I have to use cairo for shutdown now20:30
ActionParsnipKishlay: ok sweet20:30
daftykinssomersett: it may not instantly improve speeds, but it's a worthy addition nonetheless. did you say you've tried copying from Windows *TO* Ubuntu also? or just to Windows?20:30
somersettBoth. It's a dead 0.03MB/sec either way.20:30
vovickanew: what line are you using to run your script?20:30
anewperl script.pl20:30
Omurhello20:31
hitsujiTMOanew is the perl script caslling a bash script?20:31
anewwell i do have perl script.pl -text "text goes here"20:31
jmgkhi Omur20:31
Omurselam20:32
anewno, should be straight perl20:32
ActionParsnipDoesnt Cairo dock have its own Window Manager20:32
Omurkimse yokmu yardımıc olacak20:32
anewlet me mess with the cli options see if that does anything20:32
anewselam lol20:32
hitsujiTMOanew: can you pastebin the script?20:32
ActionParsnipAnew: add the top line for perl to set the interpretter20:32
anewthis is a religious free irc room !20:32
Omurlinux da autocad calıştıra bilirmiyim20:32
anewlet me test something20:32
ActionParsnipAnew: yes it is pure support20:32
\u03b5anew: perl5 is not a religion, it is heresy20:32
anewlol20:32
hassendoh...everytime the mouse right-click generated menu in any sort of flash in the browser makes the browser unresponsive,i wonder what's up.20:33
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malimbardoes anyone know a good resource for how to build a .deb package?20:34
anewok20:34
anewseems that when i add parameters20:34
anewlike20:34
zkvvoobHi guys! I have some problems receiving mail on a Ubuntu 12.04 server. Would someone like to help me?20:35
anewperl script.pl -review "test this ... out what's up!"20:35
anewit gives me that error20:35
anewif i leave that out it's fine, but shouldnt it run inside the quotes ?20:35
perohitsujiTMO: re trim: while that made the computer more usable, web browsing was still noticably laggier and then it completely choked downloading a few large jpgs, and eventually completely froze the system; on reboot it took 1 minute to load whereas it normally takes 30s20:35
DanatohitsujiTMO: although i got it now, ive got no idea what did i do to install and uninstall the 3.12 kernel. So after dpkg them should i simply reboot now?20:35
Picianew: try single quotes20:35
anewok20:36
perohitsujiTMO: is it maybe time for a new hd? the non-ssd drive is from 200620:36
ActionParsnipAnew: i'd ask in #perl too20:36
anewthink that worked20:36
anewsingle quotes20:36
ActionParsnipDanato: install the debs at the same time using dpkg20:37
hitsujiTMOpero: quite possibly, can you have a look at the smart info. un the disks utility you can find it there20:37
DanatoActionParsnip: i already installed them using dpkg, it was in hitsujiTMO pastebin, so now i jst reboot right?20:38
zkvvoobHi guys! I have some problems receiving mail on a Ubuntu 12.04 server. Would someone like to help me?20:38
hitsujiTMODanato: yeah, after you install the debs with dpkg, restart and it sholud boot the kernel. if it fails to boot remember to boot the older kernel by finding it in the advanced menu in grub20:38
ActionParsnipAnew: if you make the top line be: #!/usr/bin/perl ,you won't need to use the perl binary to run the script, the shell will just know20:38
DanatohitsujiTMO: got it20:38
ActionParsnipDanato: yes20:38
hitsujiTMODanato: also disable the blacklight script beforee the roboot so you can actually test :P20:39
uBUXUBuwhat can cause a desktop computer to refuse to boot from the cd drive?20:39
streulmawho uses Ubuntu on a Mac? :p20:39
perohitsujiTMO: disk is OK apparently - this issue only started happening yesterday and i don't remember doing any installations or modifications20:39
malimbarstreulma, I do on an older mac20:39
hitsujiTMOuBUXUBu: badly burned iso, invalid iso, fastboot enabled, secure boot enabled and the cd doesn't have a secure kernel or shim.20:40
ActionParsnipUbuxubu: trying to boot a DVD in a CD only drive20:40
uBUXUBuhmmm but i have installed OS's on it before?20:40
hitsujiTMOpero: its a little odd to be honest. can't think off the top of my head what the cause might be20:40
uBUXUBuahhh ok action20:41
uBUXUBuill check it20:41
uBUXUBui have 2 identical dells and i mean identical20:41
BeldaruBUXUBu, Are you aware of the per-session boot menu?20:41
uBUXUBuone boots form cd other wont20:41
ActionParsnipUbuxubu: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded? Did you burn as slowly as possible20:41
alketanyone knows how to test internet connection in linux, I have the integrated wireless and two usb wireless , since the integrated one is low I want to test which one is faster20:41
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uBUXUBuwell yes its tested because i just installed it on the computers twin bro20:41
uBUXUBui have 2 identical dells part for part20:42
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BeldaruBUXUBu, be sure to use nicks here you can tab complete them.20:42
ActionParsnipAlket: ping 8.8.8.8 do you get replies?20:42
hitsujiTMOalket: try speedtest.net but its not a 100% reliable test. just an indicator20:42
uBUXUBuok Beldar, ActionParsnip and hitsujiTMO20:42
ActionParsnipUbuxubu: you could use unetbotin and make an install usb using the iso file20:43
alketActionParsnip: yes20:43
uBUXUBuok ActionParsnip20:43
alketActionParsnip: 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=46.2 ms20:43
somersettdaftykins, I added the reg entry and sitll am only getting 0.03MB/s20:43
streulmamalimbar: I want to run it on a Retina, but the screen and fonts are not sharp on 1680 resolution20:43
uBUXUBubut ima try to fix it20:43
ActionParsnipAlket: then internet is working20:43
DanatohitsujiTMO: I'm in, I had some error messages but i was able to boot well, the problem is fixed now :)20:43
uBUXUButy all20:43
alketActionParsnip: but I want to know which one is faster20:44
ActionParsnipStreulma: tried xhanging font hinting?20:44
hitsujiTMODanato: you did disable the backlight script first?20:44
daftykinssomersett: it requires a restart, but yeah. like i said. anywho how did you setup SAMBA?20:44
ActionParsnipAlket: try speedtest.net as hitsujiTMO suggested20:44
somersettdaftykins: smb.conf lol20:44
alketActionParsnip: thank you, hitsujiTMO thank you too20:45
DanatohitsujiTMO: i havent been using it at all20:45
malimbarstreulma, not sharp? ubuntu is saying it's 1680 resolution?20:45
streulmamalimbar: it's 2880px resolution for Retina, but I scaled it20:46
hitsujiTMOstreulma: can you pastebin the output of: xrandr20:46
ActionParsnipDanato: we cannot support that kernel in here as it is not from the repos but glad things are beter20:46
daftykinssomersett: right, but you configured how much? any other special quirks going on in your setup?20:46
malimbarstreulma, well scaling is going to cause non-sharpness20:46
DanatoActionParsnip: It was only for testing, in fact I still need help to uninstall this kernel. I'll wait for the stable release20:47
Danatojst going to reboot, brb20:47
hitsujiTMODanato: can you pastebin the output of: dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-20:47
zkvvoobHi guys! I have some problems receiving mail on a Ubuntu 12.04 server. Would someone like to help me?20:48
malimbarstreulma, especially when you scale something with fixed pixels. Scaling means they have to guess what the missing pixels are, and then fuzz them together ot make them take up a weird area20:48
ActionParsnipDanato: you can use software centre or apt-get20:48
DanatohitsujiTMO: ok20:48
Calinouask your question zkvvoob20:48
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ActionParsnipStremula: is this on Aple hardware?20:48
malimbarActionParsnip, that's what he said. Not sure why that woudl matter though?20:50
hitsujiTMOstreulma: have you correctly set a resolution with the same aspect ratio as your screen. 1680 * 1050 is 16:10 but a normal standard would be 16:920:50
zkvvoobHere it is, then. I have a Ubuntu 12.04 server with Postfix/Dovecot installed. Up until a couple of weeks ago things worked fine. Right now I discovered that while I can send emails (notably from Rouncube which I use as webmail client), I can't receive any - either from telnet, or from outside20:50
ActionParsnipMalimbar: just curious20:50
malimbarjus t wondering if you had some magical knowledge I didn't know :)20:50
ActionParsnipZkvvoob: can you ping the mail server it sends on to etc20:51
DanatohitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/SCrPXnwY20:51
hitsujiTMOstreulma: having the wrong aspect ratio would certainly make the screen look a bit awful20:51
zkvvoobyes20:51
zkvvoobActionParsnip: yes20:51
DanatoActionParsnip: it seems to update fine, and software center opens fine. anything in specific?20:51
ActionParsnipDanato: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-3.13.0-031300rc2-generic ,will remove the kernel20:52
hitsujiTMODanato: sudo apt-get purge linux-headers-3.13.0-031300rc2-generic linux-headers-3.13.0-031300rc2 linux-image-3.13.0-031300rc2-generic20:52
ActionParsnipZkvvob: is it set right in the config? With SSL and authentication as needed20:52
DRice7daftykins: so the AST driver loads now and appears to be working. Now I am having problems with the monitor hah.20:53
DanatoActionParsnip: sorry, i misunderstood you before20:53
zkvvoobActionParsnip: followed a tutorial on HowToForge - the Perfect server. It was months ago and it's been working fine.20:53
DanatohitsujiTMO: done, thanks. rebooting now20:53
ActionParsnipZkvvoob: tried a reboot20:54
zkvvoobActionParsnip: tried all the usual stuff20:54
ActionParsnipDoes Cairo-Dock come with it's own Window manager?20:55
BeldarActionParsnip, Yeah it installs its own de20:55
omni_1991Hello; This is new: http://omidnikta.github.io/qtmind , Play it please, enjoy it, and report bugs.20:55
ActionParsnipZkvvoob: also ask in #ubuntu-server ,may want to check logs too20:55
hitsujiTMOActionParsnip: no afaik. doesan't even have its own composite manager and it needs one20:56
ActionParsnipBeldar: thanks trying it now :-)20:56
BeldarActionParsnip, I use just the dock in the shell for example though.20:56
daftykinsDRice7: if it isn't one thing... :D is it just not getting the correct resolution? be aware that adapter seems very basic so you would likely get a poor picture20:57
zkvvoobActionParsnip: ok, thanks!20:57
Guest40427Hi! Can you tell me how to run two audio apps at the same time in Ubuntu?21:02
Guest40427Ubuntu 13.1021:02
BeldarGuest40427, Can you give a little more detail and the end goal here.21:04
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linuxuz3rwhat version of firefox on latest ubuntu?21:06
malimbarlinuxuz3r, looking at mine it looks like 25.0.121:07
Beldarlinuxuz3r, 25 same as all releases21:07
DJones!info firefox21:07
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 25.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.13.10.1 (saucy), package size 27915 kB, installed size 57523 kB21:07
linuxuz3rok 25 here too21:07
DJoneslinuxuz3r: As above21:07
linuxuz3rbut it is slow when watching multiple videos21:08
bekkslinuxuz3r: flash videos?21:08
linuxuz3ryes21:08
linuxuz3ri need to upgrade flash?21:08
streulmathen you have a slow cpu linuxuz3r?21:08
bekksYou cant. Native flash isnbt supported by Adobe anymore. You have to use Chrom and the PepperFlash builtin.21:08
streulmaI thought you run Linux on Mac linuxuz3r?21:08
perohitsujiTMO: any chance you have any other angles for triaging? i'm downloading a torrent at 700kbps and everything is at a crawl21:09
linuxuz3ri have pc and macbookpro21:09
linuxuz3ri mostly run ubuntu on pc21:09
linuxuz3rbekks, i want ff instead of chrome21:09
linuxuz3rchrome logs to many things21:09
CalinouGuest40427, it is possible to do that by default just fine?21:09
Calinouwhat do you want to run?21:09
Calinoulinuxuz3r, chromium.21:09
Calinouchrome without the downsides21:10
Calinouif you tweak it21:10
merlin1978I just want my ubuntu server to send email using java. what will I need to setup?21:10
Calinoulinuxuz3r, flash eats CPU, if you run many videos at once it can use all of it21:10
linuxuz3ryes21:10
linuxuz3rCalinou, ok21:10
bekkslinuxuz3r: If you dont like chrome, then you have to live with your old flash version.21:10
streulmaanyone has thoughts over using linux on Mac?21:11
Beldarchromium will use the same flash as FF21:11
Calinoustreulma, not that good to do21:11
bekksstreulma: Whats the specific reason of your question?21:11
bekksCalinou: Thats how it is shipped.21:12
streulmaI would install Ubuntu on Mac, because I don't want to change the Mac for PC, but I would run Ubuntu, because it's free and for the Mac stuff I have to pay21:12
jevonis there an extension for chrome that i can resize the tabs just like in opera?21:12
CalinouOS X updates are free as of 10.9 :P21:12
streulmaCalinou: ALL updates from 10.9 ?21:13
jevon that i have a thumbnail like preview of the content in the tab?21:13
streulmaso 11.0 and 11.1 and 2 also?21:13
bekksstreulma: Yes.21:13
daftykinsstreulma: 10.9 and potentially future releases will no longer cost - but likely they will slowly remove hardware support with future editions21:14
streulmadaftykins: there is my point, I would run my PC longer :) so I must install Ubuntu21:14
jevonplease let me know21:14
bekksjevon: Did you search the chrome addons yet?21:15
jevonyes, i tried "too many tabs" but it wasn't what i was looking for...21:17
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jevonjust like this: http://postimg.org/image/giwulljk9/21:22
pedahzurI am trying to do an 12.04 install via the mini.iso.  I get through the first part of setup OK (network, etc), but when I get to Load Installer Components, it just hangs on a purple screenn.  The log screen (ctrl-f4) shows it downloading three GPG keys, but then after that it just hangs, nothing in the logs, nothing on the installer screen. Ideas?  I'm at a loss here.21:22
Steve132Can someone tell me how UEFI works?21:23
Steve132I have a new laptop that came with windows 8 on it, and I installed windows 8.1 on it with their update manager21:23
BeldarSteve132, Probably not with any real definitive, whats the issue?21:23
Beldaryou loose the grub boot?21:24
Steve132I want to dual boot...  I know this means that I have to do one of 1) disable UEFI and disable secure boot 2) Disable secure boot but not UEFI 3) Install a linux flavor with a secure boot key,21:24
Beldar!uefi | Steve13221:24
Steve132And I was just hoping someone could enlighten me on which of those options is best21:24
ubottuSteve132: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:24
ResQuewhere can i find grub.efi boot manager, i have a mac and need to install grub manually21:25
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ResQuei am looking just for the grub.efi file21:25
BeldarSteve132, Each manufacturer has there own tweaked version, this link may be helpful as well. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295  Back up the windows first.21:26
hitsujiTMOResQue: use grub-install21:26
ResQuehitsujiTMO: i would prefer to do this manualy, could you please tell me where the file is location or how i could find it21:27
hitsujiTMOSteve132: simply install ubuntu away. you can safely install ubuntu with secure boot enabled. the only issue that i notice with uefi is that if any OS updates the kernel or bootloader it will update the efi boot manager, which sets then itself as the default OS. so you generally need to select the OS from the uefi boot menu21:28
Steve132So ubuntu detects secure boot and works and configures itself?21:28
hitsujiTMOResQue: you can't do it manually. it needs to have entries pertaining to as to where grub actually is21:28
hitsujiTMOSteve132: yup21:28
BeldarSteve132, On a good day hopefully.21:29
Steve132ok21:29
Steve132is that recommended?21:29
Steve132like, does it cause any bugs in either system to do it that way?21:29
hitsujiTMOSteve132: yeah, some peeps seem to have issues booting oem copies of windows with secure boot disabled so its best to keep it enabled21:30
ResQuehitsujiTMO: grub-install would run a lot of unnessary  commands, some of which try to access nvram which in the past has been known to damage macs.21:30
Steve132ok21:30
Steve132I'll try it21:30
Steve132also, I wanted to try mint.  I know mint is based on ubuntu...is mint likely to have the same support built in?21:30
ResQuehitsujiTMO: "cant do it manually" i dont  understand isnt the very point of a efi file is that you can just select and boot from it21:30
BeldarSteve132, Make sure you have made a recovery cd or usb from W8.1 and back it up.21:30
Steve132It's a brand-new laptop, so I don't care if I lose everything21:31
BeldarSteve132, Problem with that is its gpt, you can run into problems be prepared.21:31
streulmaSteve132: I make a recovery disk from Win 8 on USB, then did from Linux a DD to the NAS21:31
hitsujiTMOResQue: the efi file needs to be patched such that it points to exactly where grub is.21:32
Steve132Beldar: I don't understand..what do you mean?21:32
BeldarSteve132, gpt is a different partition type which includes the partition table.21:32
Steve132right, I get that21:32
Steve132but I'm not sure I understand what that has to do with the backup media21:33
streulmaguys, how more I read here about Ubuntu, how more it is time to run Linux on my Mac :p21:33
streulmaI have to devide the hdd21:33
BeldarSteve132, Your choice I just see almost daily people not backing this up and or making a recovery which is tiny and having problems is all, this is like when you drive your car you wear a seatbelt.21:34
hitsujiTMOResQue: this means that for ANY changes to grub, it will have to run grub-install anyway. I also sincerely doubt grub-install damages a mac21:34
Beldarcover your booty in other words21:34
Steve132What I'm saying is that I don't understand what risk I'm taking.   You are saying there is a risk of data loss or something, but I have no data to lose.  What's the problem?21:34
Steve132Then you said that I'll lose my gpt table or something, but I don't get that either.21:35
hitsujiTMOResQue: also the file you are reffering to is called: grubx64.efi21:35
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BeldarSteve132, I did not say you would loose it, I just stated you have one. Lets say you had to return this computer, you might want the ability to have it be stock, lets say soemthing goes wrong and returning back to stock is the best option. Anyway do what you want.21:36
mrproperWhenever I try to boot Ubuntu 12.04 on my server (netboot) it looks to download the package list and then stops, does nothing. The debug console says it had finished checking certificates. Any suggestions?21:37
hassendoh,now flash player keeps crashing in ustream and youtube21:39
Beldarhassen, In firefox?21:39
hassenBeldar, yes21:39
hassenBeldar, and when i get that allow/deny hardware menu,it freezes21:39
Beldarhassen, Adobe does not support linux, so the flash version is a bit older than one can get in Windows or that chrome provides, it is unstable basically.21:40
Steve132Beldar: Ah, ok.  I get what you mean.  I do have recovery media for factory settings, thanks21:40
Calinou<Beldar> Steve132, Problem with that is its gpt, you can run into problems be prepared.21:40
Steve132came with the laptop in the box21:40
CalinouGPT isn't the problem, UEFI is21:40
Calinouinstalling linux in GPT is no problem these days21:41
Calinouas of 2011 windows is always preinstalled in UEFI though21:41
Calinoubut you _can_ boot in BIOS mode with GPT partition table!21:41
hassenBeldar, i see..is chrome better then?download it?21:41
BeldarCalinou, gpt is not a problem if the user knows what they are doing, part of the problem with uefi is that the manufacturers have their own versions.21:42
Beldarhassen, Some think so I don't use it myself.21:42
hassenwhatever..i see21:43
hitsujiTMOResQue: if you must know thought, the .efi file os generated from the correct module in /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/ afaik21:43
hitsujiTMOs/os/is21:43
hasseneven in browser-based MMO the graphism in win7 seems 3D-accelerated ,while in linux,it seemed like there is any sort of 3D acceleration21:43
hassensame tested MMO: tankionline.com21:44
Beldarhassen, Freezes I would check the OS using htop as well, could be swapping or the chip is maxed out, or other issues.21:44
syeekickWhere multiplayer is available, it can only be played between similar platforms: Windows VS Windows, Linux VS Linux.   regarding cross platforms games is this true? worms reloaded in question21:44
wiciujoin #cyanogenmod21:44
Calinousyeekick, it depends, but cross platform is almost always possible21:45
DanatohitsujiTMO: is he asking me to install ubuntu 14.04 as a.... third boot?21:45
Beldarwiciu, /join21:45
DanatohitsujiTMO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/125005121:45
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250051 in linux (Ubuntu) "[Lenovo G780] Backlight switched off at login screen" [Medium,Incomplete]21:45
DanatohitsujiTMO: last comment21:45
hitsujiTMODanato: hes asking to just boot the iso and see if the issue exists on the iso21:46
DanatohitsujiTMO: aah right21:46
hitsujiTMODanato: just boot as a live cd. I presume he's trying to figure out whewre the issues stems from. was it an issue in the mainline kernel pre 3.13 or was it caused by an ubuntu patch21:47
DanatohitsujiTMO: got it, ill try to find an usb around21:48
somersettdaftykins: I set auth to open, and added a folder21:49
wiciuhey guys! I open irc client after roughly 10years, I need some professional advise concerning privacy and what happened with my win8. I dunno if I could try to find out the reason of what happened. Is there some specialist of privacy online? I got obsessed by the fact that I was spied. Now I switched to Ubuntu and I feel it better. Much better.21:50
wiciuI know that I won't get any help in the small town I live now :P21:51
wiciuIf the only way to start your ubuntu is to reset BIOS I guess it's not friendly marketing practice...21:54
ActionParsnipWiciu: its not like that. Where did you get that idea from?21:55
Beldarwiciu, Not really a support issue, if you go on the web you have no privacy, privacy is a myth so don't go full OCD on it. ;)21:55
ActionParsnipWiciu: windows8 is not supported here.21:56
wiciuyeah but now I would like to manage my switch to Ubu21:56
Beldarwiciu, go to settings privacy and clear it and turn off the save.21:58
eddwanhi there21:58
ActionParsnipWiciu: you can also change what is logged etc.21:58
hassen!sudo -i22:01
hassen!sudo22:01
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo22:01
Beldarhassen, be careful rooting the terminal it is rarely needed, just use sudo22:02
hassenwow..that funny ubottu bot..22:02
hassenBeldar, yes,sure thing.22:02
ActionParsniphassen: she is useful22:02
hassenActionParsnip, indeed.22:02
Beldarmany are used to doing it from other distros like debian is all22:02
hassenBeldar, read haphazardly in an article that sudo -i affers using root with the current username's pass22:03
hassenwanted to try anyway22:03
hassen*offers622:03
Beldarhassen, Cool.22:03
ilmen_Hello22:04
Beldarwiciu, Do you use social media like facebook....etc22:04
wiciuyeah I know that. I've changed recently all my important passwords and I created kind of matrix to memorize all different passwords :)22:05
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oalHow can I run "adduser" without it asking me for Full name etc? Basically run the command and add the user, without asking questions?22:06
wiciuI have no clue that someone tried to log in in my social accounts recently22:06
Beldarwiciu, Personally I use none of that for some privacy is all.22:07
ActionParsnipOal: checked the man page, there may be a way to supress it, or just add the data at creation22:07
wiciubut what I feel is that windows wanted to collect a lot info about me22:07
ActionParsnipWiciu: those 2 things are not linked22:07
ilmen_I'm trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 64bit on a laptop (along with Windows 8) via LiveUSB, but I couldn't use the "install alongside Windows 8" option because it throws an error telling it's not able to unmount some drive; so I'm trying to figure out how to properly use the custom partitioning mode22:08
adamuls22:08
adamuoops hello22:08
Beldarwindows, google creditors, addware, creditors, nsa take your pick that is just a few22:09
ActionParsnipIlmen_: resize your NTFS in Windows and run a chkdsk too, make sure the partition is consistant22:09
adamuBeldar, Of what?22:09
wiciuActionParsnip: yeah I know I got obsessed too much recently but is it normal that your BIOS become upgraded to make boot win8 and anly win8 all the time?22:09
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Beldaradamu, org collecting info22:09
Beldarorgs22:09
ilmen_I created from Win8 a FAT32 partition of 30GB for Ubuntu and a 4.20 GB one for the swap22:09
ActionParsnipWiciu: no it is set how it is at manufacture. Upgrading a bios is a bit more complex than running windows updates22:10
wiciu, I needed to reset CMOS to boot my Ubuntu from another disk22:10
Beldaradamu, I believe you just signed on you have missed the whole conversation.22:10
ActionParsnipIlmen_: fat32 is not suitable for Linux22:10
adamuBeldar, Yeah.. too bad I missed it22:11
ActionParsnipIlen_delete the fat32 partition and leave the space free, then install to that22:11
ActionParsnipIlmen_: also delete the other one for swap22:11
ilmen_(respectively sda6 and sda7);   I guess I have to select sda6 for "Drive where the startup program will be installed", right?22:12
ilmen_Hmm22:12
wiciuOK! Anyway it was like this that my win8 updated to win 8 'Pro' - yep it was written like this, that was a server version and all that process of upgrade was not really approved by user- I mean, me22:12
ilmen_And I want to have Ubuntu booting in  EFI mode; should I do something now for this purpose or wait having Ubuntu installed first?22:14
wiciuActionParsnip, Now I use Ubu ntu that is the server too but it was my choice22:18
adamubye!22:19
ilmen_Well, I can format my sd6 and giving it a mount point; would deleting it and installing in the freed space be really better?22:20
wiciuActionParsnip: I would like to get some practical advices how to manage it now. I see that I have 32bit version, my PC is pretty modern the performance wouldn't be better on x64?22:20
wiciuwhat about the NTSF file system? If I don't want to use windows for multimedia is it rational to keep it? Should I format my disk to ext4 better?22:22
hassensorry for reposting: how to execute .deb files in the terminal?22:22
somersett"sudo dpkg -i [package name]" to install22:23
Beldarhassen, Before doing this you checked the repos for what your installing?22:23
jhutchinsilmen_: Generally grub should be installed to the device, not to a partition.22:23
jhutchinsilmen_: sda, not sda#22:23
hassenBeldar, google chrome browser22:23
ilmen_Is ext3 the best format for my ubuntu partition (30GB)?22:23
hassensomersett, i see,thanks.22:24
bekksilmen_: use ext422:24
wiciuI have also 64GB SD disk inside my PC would't be better to use it as / for Ubu?22:24
ilmen_Beldar: yeah, but I don't want my preinstalled windows 8 to be deleted22:24
Beldarhassen, It will install from the software center, I use gdebi personally.22:24
jhutchinswiciu: I would reformat the ntfs to ext - permissions and ownership will be more consistent through the system.22:24
Beldarilmen_, why are you telling me?22:24
bekkswiciu: for dualboot, it is vital to not format your windows partitions.22:24
hassenBeldar, yes,but i got enought of move/click mouse :)22:24
hassentime to dive in terminal command line world22:25
hassenso we use the 'sudo' to install stuff in the system?22:25
hassenis the root the only one who can install and add softwares?22:25
bekkshassen: we use dpkg, and it requires sudo22:25
hassenyeah the sudo22:26
hasseneven sudo bash blah.run22:26
hassensudo is always present22:26
hassenno?22:26
bekksNo.22:26
Beldarilmen_, I would be backing up the W8 and have the recovery cd/usb generated to start with.22:27
bekksInstalling software like sudo bash blah.run might break your box - dont do it.22:27
somersettHas anyone ever experience extremely slow network copy speeds? Like 0.03MB/sec?22:27
hassenbekks, why?22:27
bekkshassen: because blah.run might break your system.22:28
jhutchinsBeldar: Be aware that a factory recovery image is likely to destroy the ubuntu installation rather than restore to a selected partition.22:28
hassenbekks, e.g i tried to install my ATI gpu prioritary driver with ati*.run file22:28
Beldarjhutchins, and?22:29
bekkshassen: that will break with every kernel update22:29
jhutchinsBeldar: Also, an NTFS data partition is useful for sharing files between the Windows and Linux environments.22:29
ilmen_I guess that making a backup with a tool like Macrium would be wiser22:29
Beldarjhutchins, I did not tell anyone to use a factory recovery22:29
hassenbekks, :o22:30
jhutchinsBeldar: I seem to have gotten the wrong nick here.22:30
Beldarjhutchins, I think you are a bit mixed up I have not addressed a shred ntfs as well.22:30
Beldar;)22:30
jhutchinsBeldar: Got you mixed up with ilmen22:30
hassenseems like windows is getting bugs/errors/viruses from such stuff...22:31
hassenunlike linux22:31
Beldarhassen, Started on open source, and used windows of and on last 5 years, never had an infection in any.22:31
bekkshassen: linux still might break22:32
Beldarany OS can be compromised if you are careless hassen22:33
hassenreasonable22:33
wiciuI don't play games. Just the reason to keep Win8 would be for me graphic and video editing software. Maybe there are some substitutions for that on Linux now? I was not using Ubu fro ~5 years. Can you recommend my some good video software, this is what I would like to work with. I am able to pay but also I don't need too professional stuff.22:36
Beldarilmen_, Macrium is a good tool, W8 has no mbr and this app does not save the mbr.22:36
* hassen is testing the chrome's flash plugin in a 3D MMO22:37
Calinouwiciu, openshot, kdenline, lightworks (currently in beta), gimp, krita22:40
Calinouthe last two are for image editing/creating22:40
Calinouthe 3 first ones are video editing22:40
Daekdroom!12.0422:41
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120422:41
PDilyardi have a shell script that i want to run on a server that i have ssh access to. how can i start the script via ssh, but then leave it running when i quit the session?22:42
ActionParsnipHassen: windows is the same, the run as admin nag thing, no different22:42
wiciuCalinou, thanks!22:42
ActionParsniphassen: your user is a user, not root. You are sinply a member of the 'sudo' group which is allowed to run commands as root using the sudo command (and gksudo for GUI apps)22:43
ActionParsnipPdilyard: use scp to copy the script over. You can then run: ssh user@server "/path/to/file" and it will run, outputs will be shown in your terminal22:45
wiciuI remember that reading/writing NTSF on Linux was an issue before. How is it know? There is no difference if I store my music or videos on NTSF or ext partition?22:46
PDilyardActionParsnip, thanks!22:46
bekkswiciu: ntfs, not ntsf22:46
ActionParsnipPdilyard: this feature allows easy managability of many servers22:47
ActionParsnipPdilyard: as you can image, bash loop of server names with the command to run on them all22:47
wiciubekks, system file,  file system, we say in Polish- 'one dog' ;)22:48
i3luefirebest method for xferring large amounts of data from ubuntu to freenas22:48
jmgkhmm22:48
i3luefire?22:48
wiciubekks, no, OK file system sounds better22:49
XeronixHey guys, I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu Server. My keyboard is not being recognized once the installation wizard begins (the very first step - selecting language)22:50
peroi have really high load, and i/o operations bring the system to a standstill, with almost nothing running - and the issue came out of nowere yesterday22:51
BeldarXeronix, If needed there is #ubuntu-server22:52
gabe_hi22:52
Danatohow do i format a bootable usb?22:53
BeldarDanato, fat3222:53
DanatoBeldar: yes22:54
BeldarDanato, Than use  a usb loader app, there are handfulls22:54
gabe_hello22:54
gabe_Im new to this xchat can you chat in differnt servers22:54
DanatoBeldar: anything that comes pre-installed?22:55
gabe_how do I join other channels22:55
BeldarDanato, USB?22:55
Beldargabe_, /join "channel"22:55
gabe_where can I search for other channels22:56
Beldar!alis | gabe_22:56
ubottugabe_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*22:56
gabe_yes22:56
CyberGabbergabe_: http://searchirc.com/22:56
DanatoBeldar: a usb loader app to format a bootable usb22:56
gabe_ok thanks22:56
BeldarDanato, Are you doing this in ubuntu?22:57
DanatoBeldar: yeah22:57
BeldarDanato, I'm kinda fond of this one you can load multiple ISO, format the usb in gparted though. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/22:58
gabe_this is a nice channel22:59
DanatoBeldar: I should have thought about gparted, thanks :)22:59
BeldarDanato, I have a 16 gig usb with a bunch of linux and a W8.1 iso on it.22:59
SonikkuAmericaDanato: Yes, GParted is probably the best tool22:59
SonikkuAmericaDanato: Also, if you're preparing a Live USB drive, format it to the FAT32 standard.23:00
Beldarincluding supergrub hehe23:00
Ikahey23:00
Jay_RHave any of you had issues with dedicated graphics card that aren't recognized after your box times out?23:00
bekksJay_R: What do you mean by "box times out"?23:01
Jay_RGoes to sleep.23:01
BeldarJay_R, Name the card and the issues in detail for help to the channel.23:01
Jay_RLike you log out.23:01
DanatoSonikkuAmerica: I know, I already have it formated and made it bootable, but now i jst need it back to a normal flash drive23:01
SonikkuAmericaDanato: OK then, if you want to use it on Windows, use NTFS23:01
SonikkuAmericaDanato: Otherwise, use ext3 or ext423:02
SonikkuAmerica(the latter is preferable)23:02
Ikaanyone got an idea why my laptop wont boot anymore? all i did was upgrade from 11.04 to 13.10?23:02
Jay_RCard is an NVIDIA GeForce 660 TI.23:02
BeldarIka, Through all the releases between?23:02
SonikkuAmerica=j ##usb23:02
Ikanope just booted 13.10 through usb and used the upgrade feature in the installation23:03
Jay_RSo... Sometimes when I walk away from my box and it monitor goes to sleep, I'll come back to a display setting of 800x600.23:03
CalinouJay_R, suspend using proprietary drivers is unreliable23:03
Calinoudon't use it23:03
BeldarIka, Or a fresh install?23:03
DRice7Can someone help me with my Xorg starting problem? Issue is at the bottom of: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6501600/23:03
Jay_RCalinou, noted. So screensaver is a better option then?23:03
IkaBeldar, i booted 13.10 through usb stick after using the disk creator tool then chose upgrade when the option came up23:04
Jay_RIf I unplug the monitor and plug it back in, it goes back to normal.23:04
CalinouJay_R,  screensaver is useless23:04
Calinoujust use something that shuts down screen23:05
BeldarIka, Not sure if that was designed to go from a eol or anything but the previous release. What is the no boot symptoms?23:05
SonikkuAmericaDRice7: Are you using a proprietary driver?23:05
DRice7SonikkuAmerica, I just installed this driver from ASRock - because the ast module was not being found23:05
IkaBeldar, now when i boot up my laptop it comes up with a page similar to the windows one after a bad shutdown (eg. start normal, start safe mode) but linux 2.6 etc23:06
YellowGTOHey guys I installed xfce and now I have an error when trying to use software center23:06
IkaBeldar, after i select the top option a small line blips in the top left corner of the screen for a while then it shuts off the whole laptop23:06
TmvChttp://www.pixtr.org/image/195.html hahaha f kids23:07
YellowGTOSoftware cant be installed or removed because the authentication service is not available23:07
DRice7Ika, sounds lke you need to toss 'nomodeset' into grub before you boot23:07
BeldarIka, Not sure what that would be, if it were me I would would boot the usb pull what you need and do a fresh install. Trying to fix that may not be easy if at all and would you know if really fixed in the end.23:07
DRice7Ika, I've been researching the same problem all day.23:08
BeldarIka, depends on what you want in the end.23:08
IkaBeldar, well i've tried rebooting from the same usb stick and it skips it in the boot list saying that it isn't there, same with CD Roms23:08
DRice7If you google: 'nvidia blank screen', you should find what you need23:08
IkaDRice7, i was never really good at cmd lines :S23:09
DRice7Ika, real easy step by step guides23:09
IkaDRice7, was that "no"modeset or "nc"?23:09
BeldarIka, You aware of the per-session boot menu? Hard to tell what really happened so far with your description is all.23:09
DRice7nomodeset23:09
Ikathe o merges with the m so i couldnt tell :323:10
Beldar!nomodeset | Ika23:10
ubottuIka: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:10
DRice7SonikkuAmerica, I need to go cook dinner apparently - PM me if you have any thoughts23:11
YellowGTOAny ideas?23:11
BeldarYellowGTO, You in the install account?23:12
YellowGTOaccount?23:12
YellowGTOSorry im pretty new23:12
BeldarYellowGTO, keeo the issue with all posts.23:12
BeldarYellowGTO, You have a account that was made when you installed it is an admin are you in it?23:13
IkaDRice7, is this for nvidia cards only? i believe i have AMD23:13
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YellowGTOYeah Beldar23:13
Calinounomodeset works everywhere, Ika23:13
BeldarYellowGTO, Try a update sudo apt-get update23:14
Ikaok thanks Calinou, i shall try and be back in a bit23:14
wiciuany help abut if ntfs/ex4 does make a difference for reading the media files?23:14
xanguawiciu: please elaborate23:15
YellowGTOI tried that Beldar23:15
BeldarYellowGTO, and what happens running it with a sudo apt-get upgrade pastebinned would be helpful here.23:16
mvhentenHi, I have a working postfix setup I can connect to from the machine (telnet localhost 25) however, the same trick is not working from remote (home).23:16
mvhentenI've opened port 25 AFAIK using iptables23:16
mvhentenbut nmap still lists it as "fitered"23:16
mvhentenI've had trouble setting this up since it's a VPS and I cannot use UFW at all, so down to iptables and mucking about in the mu23:17
mvhentenmud23:17
GuiriI'm having trouble with a new Gateway LT netbook.  I am trying to boot to USB, but the netbook doesn't recognize any bootable media (except windows boot manager which leads to windows 8)23:17
YellowGTO1 second ill paste it up23:17
Beldar!pastebin | YellowGTO23:17
ubottuYellowGTO: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.23:17
mvhentenany pointers where I should be prodding around?23:17
Beldarmvhenten, keep the posts all in one to have a concise read for us.23:18
Ikai tried the nomodeset but it said the command wasnt found23:18
BeldarIka, when and where?23:18
GuiriAnyone want to help me out with setting up Ubuntu on this netbook23:19
Ikawhen the grub menu opened it said press c to open cmd line, so i did then i typed in nomodeset23:19
Beldar!anyone | Guiri23:19
ubottuGuiri: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.23:19
wiciuI switched from Win8 tu Ubu 12.04 LTS . Now I recognize that I don't need Win so much to live. I have one big partition of my PC with NTFS would it be beneficial to format it to ext file system?23:19
mvhentenok sorry. so I can connect smtp from localhost, not from remote, I have tried to enable port 25 trough iptables but it still is "filtered" according to nmap...23:19
GuiriBeldar I already asked my question and no one responded23:19
BeldarIka, you would use e edit read the link.23:19
Ikaah ok23:19
jevon!details23:19
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:19
Ikasorry i skim read and didnt see it23:19
Beldar!uefi | Guiri23:20
ubottuGuiri: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI23:20
jmgk_lol Billymays23:20
jmgk_DarkAce-Z:23:20
jmgk_:P23:20
GuiriWell this chat is clearly useless23:20
Beldarhehe of well23:21
jevonlol23:21
Beldaroh*23:21
Beldar10 min and gives up23:22
koyetsucan anyone give me an assist on setting up a linux live dvd pxe? i have my ubuntu server installer working but i'm not sure how to setup the live dvd. it isn't ubuntu but i hope it's not too far off for someone to assist23:23
mvhentensooo anyone have an idea where I should start looking to enable smtp from the outside? I cannot use UFW it's a virtuozzo vps. I'd really like some email tho.23:24
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arpad2I tried to install  Bumblebee from wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee, but after following the instructions the 'optirun opera' gave me an error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/6501697  where can be an user added to the 'bumblebee' group?23:26
hitsujiTMOarpad2: did you add yourself to the bumblebee group?23:27
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arpad2hitsujiTMO>: no, I couldn't find where it is23:28
hitsujiTMOarpad2: type this EXACTLY: sudo usermod -aG bumblebee `whoami`23:29
hitsujiTMOarpad2: once that's done you need to relog to be part of the group23:29
mvhentenok a more pragmatic question: I see /etc/firewall.conf and I have removed ufw. I assume I can safely remove :ufw rules there right?23:30
arpad2the thing is now I am not logged in with the user who has sudo priviledges23:30
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Beldarkoyetsu, This is ubuntu support you might try ##linux23:31
Beldaror the actual distros channel23:31
hitsujiTMOarpad2: then log in with the user that has sudo proviledges and type: sudo usermod -aG bumblebee <user>                   replacing <user> with the user that you want to give bumblebee access to23:31
silver073000!help23:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:32
koyetsui was just hoping someone could point me in the right direction....i tried the distro's chan 80 ppl no response23:32
arpad2<hitsujiTMO> thank you23:32
zykotick9hitsujiTMO: i think using "sudo adduser USERNAME GROUP" is MUCH safer suggestion then usermod - prevents the, "why am i only in one group now?"  ;)23:32
hitsujiTMOzykotick9: cool, will note that23:32
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Ikanomodeset didnt work23:33
bodomHi there. I've made some customiziations to my initrd's "init" script. What is the correct place to put them so that they will not get overwritten by update-initrd?23:34
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arpad2<hitsujiTMO>: should I make a reboot after?23:36
_dan_hi, any way to install openjdk-7-jre on old version of ubuntu (9.04)?23:36
hitsujiTMOarpad2: no, just logging into the users account AFTER the change has been made is enough23:36
zykotick9arpad2: just logout and back in (to apply new group memebership)23:36
arpad2thank you23:37
xangua_dan_: please upgrade to a supported ubuntu distro23:37
hitsujiTMO_dan_: end of line versions are not supported here. best to upgrade23:37
_dan_i am a bit worried if i upgrade i will not be able to connect to it anymore23:37
YellowGTOBeldar, digging in the logs I found 2 crash reports23:38
hitsujiTMO_dan_: is this a server?23:38
_dan_yeah23:38
YellowGTOpaste.ubuntu.com/650174523:38
BalzyHello! I'm currently installing root on my kubuntu machine and I have a little doubt about the following line:    (g)make        [or, make -j n, for n core machines].23:38
hitsujiTMO_dan_: so you are aware that you have been running a server with a insecure version of ubuntu for at least 2 years?23:38
YellowGTOAnd http://paste.ubuntu.com/650175023:39
BalzyMy computer is a Intel core i3 so  I think the core number is 4, is that right?23:39
_dan_yep23:39
CalinouBalzy, that's 4 THREADS not cores23:39
Calinoui3s have hyperthreading, which doubles the number of threads available23:39
Calinou(it is enabled by default)23:39
Calinouso yes, you should use make -j423:39
bitbagelI had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.23:39
Calinouthe number of threads matters23:39
bitbagelI had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.23:39
FloodBot1bitbagel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.23:39
hitsujiTMO_dan_: best thing to do is backup what you can and then begin the upgrade process.23:40
BalzyCalinou yeah that was my doubt, what is exactly the number I should use?23:40
bitbagelI had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my assssss.23:40
bitbagelI had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.23:40
xangua!ops | bitbagel23:40
ubottubitbagel: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici,  jpds,  gnomefreak, bazhang,  Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!23:40
Balzyokay 423:40
Balzythanks23:40
CalinouBalzy, 423:40
arpad2<hitsujiTMO>: now it started the program, is it using now the videocard?23:40
_dan_alright, i will try to upgrade...23:41
_dan_what is the command to start it?23:41
BalzyCalinou so if a program or whatelse asks me the number of cores I should always refer to the number of threads that is 4?23:41
hitsujiTMOarpad2: it should be. best thing to do is to run glxgears ( or similar app ), then run glxgears throu optirun and see if there's a difference. that should show if its working or not23:42
CalinouBalzy, yes23:42
zykotick9_dan_: be aware you'd have to upgrade 9.04->9.10->10.04->12.04 at least... fresh install would probably be easier...23:42
hitsujiTMO!eol | _dan_ all info should be here. eol upgrades are a little more involved afaik23:42
ubottu_dan_ all info should be here. eol upgrades are a little more involved afaik: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades23:42
arpad2<hitsujiTMO>: ok, here glxgears not installed23:43
BalzyCalinou while the physical cores are only 2?23:43
BeldarYellowGTO, seems the software center is having some problem, I'm not really able to see what exactly, however just seeing if you can use apt-get as I asked would be a good start. YOu can start the software center from the command line will give better errors.23:43
YellowGTOI can use apt-get23:43
hitsujiTMOarpad2: i think its part of mesautils23:43
CalinouBalzy, yes, there are 2 physical cores on an i323:43
zykotick9arpad2: btw it's in the mesa-utils package23:43
YellowGTOIt show I found out I had this issue actually23:43
bekksBalzy: 2 physical cores supporting hyperthreading result in four logical cores.23:44
BeldarYellowGTO, always use nicks here, run software-center23:44
BalzyCalinou okay! Thank you very much, now I understand what lscpu was telling me23:45
hitsujiTMOBalzy: a program should not be asking you how many cores you have ... unless its virtualisation software and its asking you how many cores you want to use on a guest23:45
Calinounp23:45
arpad2<hitsujiTMO>,<zykotick9>: ok23:45
CalinouhitsujiTMO, it can ask you.23:45
Calinouyes, it can23:45
Calinoua decent amount of programs do that23:45
Calinoucompilers, some game stuff...23:45
zykotick9hitsujiTMO: it's the -j for compiling...23:45
hitsujiTMOCalinou: really? when it can just check itself?23:45
BalzyhitsujiTMO I'm installing Root and I'm following cern instructions23:45
BalzyhitsujiTMO   (g)make                 [or, make -j n, for n core machines]23:46
YellowGTOI need to add a key manually to my sources because apt-get update wont work23:46
YellowGTOSo i opened up sources and discovered this error23:46
hitsujiTMOahh yeah, thats same thing, its asking for how many cores you want to use. not have23:46
CalinouhitsujiTMO, it is not always done, because it is not trivial23:47
BalzyhitsujiTMO since my computer has a multicore processor I think I should provide the cores number23:47
xangua!gpgerr | YellowGTO23:47
ubottuYellowGTO: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »23:47
BeldarYellowGTO, if you need a key you can use sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "key here"23:47
zykotick9YellowGTO: i assume you added a PPA manually?  BTW, if you use ppa-add-repository (<- or very similar), it will automatically add the keys for you23:48
BalzyCalinou, hitsujiTMO, what number shall I use? 4 or perhaps a small one?23:48
Calinou423:48
zykotick9Balzy: fyi, it doesn't really matter...23:48
Calinouunless you want to do something CPU intensive at the same time23:48
hitsujiTMOBalzy: 4 if you want it to be as fast as possible23:48
Balzyokay thanks! I think I'm going with 4, since sometimes I have to run intensive stuff23:49
_dan_i am a bit confused by that page... how exactly do i run the do-release-upgrade?23:50
_dan_with no args it just tells me it can't do it23:50
hitsujiTMO_dan_ whats the exact error?23:50
Beldar_dan_, What release are you on?23:50
hitsujiTMO9.04 Beldar23:50
_dan_An upgrade from 'jaunty' to 'lucid' is not supported with this tool.23:51
Beldarah it wont work with that command then, needs a eol upgrade23:51
Beldar_dan_, You are better off with a fresh install, much faster and more likely to be a good install.23:52
arpad2<hitsujiTMO>: optirun glsgears crashed23:52
hitsujiTMO_dan_: you must upgrade to 9.10 not 10.0423:52
_dan_not feasible - i only have access over ssh23:52
arpad2glxgears23:52
hitsujiTMO_dan_: your provider should have 12.04 templates and have some way of allowing you to reinstall23:53
hitsujiTMOarpad2: well the fact that its crashing prob means you're on the other gpu. but ... yeah ... should not crash... what gpu do you have?23:54
arpad2<hitsujiTMO>: you mean which dedicated? thats nvidia gtx675mx23:54
_dan_yeah, my provider did not think that far ahead :)23:55
hitsujiTMO_dan_: then maybes its time to switch to a propper provider23:55
_dan_it is my own machine23:56
_dan_from a few year ago23:56
hassenreconnected23:56
hitsujiTMO_dan_: ahh so you're just renting shelfspace and a connection?23:57
_dan_no, it runs at my parents house actually23:58
_dan_who live very far away23:58
_dan_i am pretty sure if i hose the ssh connection noone there will be able to fix it23:59
hitsujiTMOarpad2: maybe try nvidia-prime instead of bumblebee. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html23:59
mappummy networking isn't working. eth0 shows up on ifconfig, but all it says all TX packets have been dropped23:59
mappumthis is a new motherboard, maybe it's not compatible?23:59
mappumi've tested on server 13.10 and desktop 13.1023:59
mappumanything i should try?23:59

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