ali1234 | sorry i got distracted there | 00:06 |
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ali1234 | i don't think i proposed any changes in the panel (yet) | 00:06 |
ochosi | mr_pouit, micahg, bluesabre, knome: good news everyone, the wrapper3 branch (enabling gtk3 plugins to run in xfce-panel) was finally merged! http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/log/ | 16:50 |
ochosi | so from now on we can at least say we ship the panel from git ;) | 16:50 |
ochosi | but: gtk3 has to be enabled in our packages, it's not enabled by default | 16:51 |
ochosi | ali1234: that might also interest you ^ | 16:51 |
brainwash | ali1234: lightdm vt fix applied and it works, no corruption | 17:28 |
ochosi | brainwash: nice! | 17:28 |
ochosi | very good to hear that | 17:28 |
ochosi | so light-locker also works properly for you now? | 17:28 |
brainwash | yes, but I still prefer a solution without vt switching :P | 17:29 |
ochosi | phew, finally things are falling into place :) | 17:29 |
brainwash | most users will like the new lock mechanic | 17:29 |
brainwash | I think | 17:29 |
ochosi | yeah, i hope so too | 17:30 |
ochosi | it'll be more consistent, despite the VT-switching | 17:30 |
brainwash | currently xfdesktop wait for xfwm4 to launch first and get ready, so the icons do pop up rather late, any thoughts on this? | 17:31 |
ochosi | not sure, i mean there's always the question of what to load when... | 17:32 |
ochosi | since things are more modular in xfce than in gnome, it's harder to do the perfect solution i think | 17:32 |
ochosi | gotta get ready for dinner now, bbl | 17:32 |
brainwash | ah right, we need to test all the components one by one too | 17:33 |
brainwash | to see if they still work stand alone | 17:33 |
brainwash | like replacing xfdesktop with nautilus | 17:33 |
brainwash | or using another greeter | 17:34 |
jjfrv8 | ochosi, thanks for cleaning up the dokuwiki site | 17:52 |
jjfrv8 | ochosi, just wondering though, did you mean to delete the xfdestkop preferences section? | 17:54 |
jjfrv8 | clear | 17:55 |
ali1234 | ochosi: i don't like the VT switching. it makes my music stop playing when the screen saver starts | 17:56 |
bluesabre | ^ that is the single most annoying part about light-locker | 18:22 |
ochosi | actually it doesn't stop the music | 19:01 |
ochosi | at least not here | 19:01 |
ochosi | it just gives it a little hickup | 19:01 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: oops, did i? i guess there were so many spam pages that i might've deleted one too many then... | 19:01 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: will restore it unless you've already done so | 19:02 |
jjfrv8 | hey, ochosi. No I haven't restored it. I wasn't sure how you copied the stuff over from xfec. | 19:04 |
jjfrv8 | *xfce | 19:04 |
ochosi | simple copy-paste from the source | 19:05 |
ochosi | so it's an easy restore anyway | 19:05 |
jjfrv8 | ok. I'll try that. | 19:05 |
ochosi | ok, cool | 19:06 |
ochosi | if it doesn't work, lemme know and i'll handle it | 19:06 |
jjfrv8 | all better now :) | 19:08 |
ochosi | cool | 19:13 |
ochosi | :) | 19:13 |
ochosi | ali1234, bluesabre: apart from the fact that my music/videos continue playing when light-locker starts, you can also disable time-based locking, solely use X11's screensaver and lock your session by hand | 19:21 |
ochosi | usually when you have music playing, there's no need to lock your session, unless the thieve is in your house or you're in a library or public place that is very liberal wrt noise | 19:22 |
ochosi | thief, i meant | 19:22 |
jjfrv8 | ochosi, i created a screenshot standardization document similar to the one I did for parole: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop | 19:29 |
jjfrv8 | can you check it out and see if everything looks right? | 19:29 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: perfect! | 19:33 |
ochosi | that's exactly how it should look | 19:33 |
ochosi | not sure you read that in the backlog, but i mentioned a short while ago, that we should add <note></note> for stuff that is new in 4.12 | 19:33 |
ochosi | so that the docs stay somewhat backward-compatible | 19:33 |
ochosi | and ppl can easily see "what they miss" | 19:34 |
ochosi | i don't know what the general plan is, i guess they will try to keep the docs working for 4.8, 4.10 and 4.12 | 19:35 |
jjfrv8 | ochosi, yes, I did see that mention about the notes in the backlog so I'll keep it in mind. | 19:35 |
ochosi | great | 19:35 |
ochosi | but feel free to improve on the wording if you see room for it | 19:35 |
ochosi | current docs aren't the wholy grail or something ;) | 19:36 |
ochosi | s/wholy/holy/ | 19:36 |
jjfrv8 | :) | 19:36 |
ochosi | bluesabre: as a fellow user of plank, should we try to support docks like that by patching our default apps' desktop-files to have some quicklist-support? (i mean for those where it'd work easily, e.g. gmusicbrowser | 19:39 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: just one note wrt the screenshot: i'd try to keep the size (in this case: the width) at a useful minimum | 19:41 |
jjfrv8 | I meant to ask you about that. I shrank it as far as it would go. | 19:41 |
jjfrv8 | it doesn't resize as small as the 4.10 version seems to. | 19:42 |
bluesabre | ochosi, when the VT is switched it kills all audio | 19:43 |
bluesabre | and yeah, giving some basic plank/unity support for some app might not be a bad idea :) | 19:44 |
ochosi | jjfrv8: ah true, that is actually a problem of the not-visible tab with the wallpapers i guess... so not your fault but mine, sorry | 19:44 |
ochosi | bluesabre: not here, gmusicbrowser or parole continue to play | 19:44 |
ochosi | even youtube keeps roaring | 19:44 |
bluesabre | really, when you are at the login/lock screen? | 19:45 |
ochosi | yeah | 19:45 |
bluesabre | hm | 19:45 |
bluesabre | doesn't do that for me :D | 19:45 |
ochosi | weird | 19:46 |
ochosi | i wonder how my setup differs | 19:46 |
brainwash | ochosi: stops for me, but that's the expected behavior | 21:46 |
ochosi | interesting | 21:49 |
knome | ochosi, cool | 23:04 |
ochosi | ali1234: to pick that up from yesterday, so how did you imagine the panel presets to work exactly? | 23:39 |
ali1234 | i don't know. it depends on how the api for changing them looks | 23:39 |
ochosi | one problem i see with how i understood your version of integrating it to the "add panel" button is the fact that e.g. gnome2 adds *2* panels | 23:39 |
ochosi | so it'd actually not just add a new panel, but replace your current panels too to make sense | 23:40 |
ochosi | ali1234: do you wanna give the ochosi/tabwin branch of xfwm4 some testing? | 23:50 |
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