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ali1234sorry i got distracted there00:06
ali1234i don't think i proposed any changes in the panel (yet)00:06
ochosimr_pouit, micahg, bluesabre, knome: good news everyone, the wrapper3 branch (enabling gtk3 plugins to run in xfce-panel) was finally merged! http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/log/16:50
ochosiso from now on we can at least say we ship the panel from git ;)16:50
ochosibut: gtk3 has to be enabled in our packages, it's not enabled by default16:51
ochosiali1234: that might also interest you ^16:51
brainwashali1234: lightdm vt fix applied and it works, no corruption17:28
ochosibrainwash: nice!17:28
ochosivery good to hear that17:28
ochosiso light-locker also works properly for you now?17:28
brainwashyes, but I still prefer a solution without vt switching :P17:29
ochosiphew, finally things are falling into place :)17:29
brainwashmost users will like the new lock mechanic17:29
brainwashI think17:29
ochosiyeah, i hope so too17:30
ochosiit'll be more consistent, despite the VT-switching17:30
brainwashcurrently xfdesktop wait for xfwm4 to launch first and get ready, so the icons do pop up rather late, any thoughts on this?17:31
ochosinot sure, i mean there's always the question of what to load when...17:32
ochosisince things are more modular in xfce than in gnome, it's harder to do the perfect solution i think17:32
ochosigotta get ready for dinner now, bbl17:32
brainwashah right, we need to test all the components one by one too17:33
brainwashto see if they still work stand alone17:33
brainwashlike replacing xfdesktop with nautilus17:33
brainwashor using another greeter17:34
jjfrv8ochosi, thanks for cleaning up the dokuwiki site17:52
jjfrv8ochosi, just wondering though, did you mean to delete the xfdestkop preferences section?17:54
jjfrv8clear17:55
ali1234ochosi: i don't like the VT switching. it makes my music stop playing when the screen saver starts17:56
bluesabre^ that is the single most annoying part about light-locker18:22
ochosiactually it doesn't stop the music19:01
ochosiat least not here19:01
ochosiit just gives it a little hickup19:01
ochosijjfrv8: oops, did i? i guess there were so many spam pages that i might've deleted one too many then...19:01
ochosijjfrv8: will restore it unless you've already done so19:02
jjfrv8hey, ochosi. No I haven't restored it. I wasn't sure how you copied the stuff over from xfec.19:04
jjfrv8*xfce19:04
ochosisimple copy-paste from the source19:05
ochosiso it's an easy restore anyway19:05
jjfrv8ok. I'll try that.19:05
ochosiok, cool19:06
ochosiif it doesn't work, lemme know and i'll handle it19:06
jjfrv8all better now :)19:08
ochosicool19:13
ochosi:)19:13
ochosiali1234, bluesabre: apart from the fact that my music/videos continue playing when light-locker starts, you can also disable time-based locking, solely use X11's screensaver and lock your session by hand19:21
ochosiusually when you have music playing, there's no need to lock your session, unless the thieve is in your house or you're in a library or public place that is very liberal wrt noise19:22
ochosithief, i meant19:22
jjfrv8ochosi, i created a screenshot standardization document similar to the one I did for parole: http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop19:29
jjfrv8can you check it out and see if everything looks right?19:29
ochosijjfrv8: perfect!19:33
ochosithat's exactly how it should look19:33
ochosinot sure you read that in the backlog, but i mentioned a short while ago, that we should add <note></note> for stuff that is new in 4.1219:33
ochosiso that the docs stay somewhat backward-compatible19:33
ochosiand ppl can easily see "what they miss"19:34
ochosii don't know what the general plan is, i guess they will try to keep the docs working for 4.8, 4.10 and 4.1219:35
jjfrv8ochosi, yes, I did see that mention about the notes in the backlog so I'll keep it in mind.19:35
ochosigreat19:35
ochosibut feel free to improve on the wording if you see room for it19:35
ochosicurrent docs aren't the wholy grail or something ;)19:36
ochosis/wholy/holy/19:36
jjfrv8:)19:36
ochosibluesabre: as a fellow user of plank, should we try to support docks like that by patching our default apps' desktop-files to have some quicklist-support? (i mean for those where it'd work easily, e.g. gmusicbrowser19:39
ochosijjfrv8: just one note wrt the screenshot: i'd try to keep the size (in this case: the width) at a useful minimum19:41
jjfrv8I meant to ask you about that. I shrank it as far as it would go.19:41
jjfrv8it doesn't resize as small as the 4.10 version seems to.19:42
bluesabreochosi, when the VT is switched it kills all audio19:43
bluesabreand yeah, giving some basic plank/unity support for some app might not be a bad idea :)19:44
ochosijjfrv8: ah true, that is actually a problem of the not-visible tab with the wallpapers i guess... so not your fault but mine, sorry19:44
ochosibluesabre: not here, gmusicbrowser or parole continue to play19:44
ochosieven youtube keeps roaring19:44
bluesabrereally, when you are at the login/lock screen?19:45
ochosiyeah19:45
bluesabrehm19:45
bluesabredoesn't do that for me :D19:45
ochosiweird19:46
ochosii wonder how my setup differs19:46
brainwashochosi: stops for me, but that's the expected behavior21:46
ochosiinteresting21:49
knomeochosi, cool23:04
ochosiali1234: to pick that up from yesterday, so how did you imagine the panel presets to work exactly?23:39
ali1234i don't know. it depends on how the api for changing them looks23:39
ochosione problem i see with how i understood your version of integrating it to the "add panel" button is the fact that e.g. gnome2 adds *2* panels23:39
ochosiso it'd actually not just add a new panel, but replace your current panels too to make sense23:40
ochosiali1234: do you wanna give the ochosi/tabwin branch of xfwm4 some testing?23:50

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