[00:14] <James0r> got google earth working by building a package with googleearth-package but i'm getting this http error when searching for location.
[00:14] <James0r> a post recommended renaming libcurl.so.4 but that didn't work
[01:48] <James0r> anyone know a fix for this 'invalid http request' error when searching for a location in google earth 6.0.3?
[02:44] <brokerer> hi, somebody can tell me where is the amarok's source-code my system is kubuntu 13.10
[03:03] <hololight> Two questions: When I open a magnet link for a torrent, it opens in ktorrent just fine and downloads; but in the notifications area it shows 'Examining' which never goes away (even after the download is finished)
[03:04] <rianav> ok. and?
[03:04] <hololight> That is normal behavior?
[03:05] <hololight> not 'finished' or anything....
[03:05] <hololight> with a 'stop' or 'pause' button shown next to an empty progress bar
[03:06] <hololight> the second question has to do with virtuoso-t maxing out the cpu... I know it is needed for file indexing (which i like), anyway to make it behave itself? or is my only option to get rid of it
[03:07] <rianav> does this happen with other user accounts on the machine?
[03:07] <hololight> which?
[03:07] <rianav> sorry i mean the torrent issue.
[03:08] <hololight> dont know, single user; but if you have an idea I'll create another user
[03:20] <sony1337> hallo
[04:21] <brokerer> where is the amarok's source-code? my system is kubuntu 13.10
[04:56] <forgeaus> where? hmm good question kde repositories I guess... shouldn't be too hard to find it is an opensource project ...
[05:43] <jarkko_> anyone installed crossover on kubuntu?
[06:36] <soundquest> HEY
[06:46] <MySystem> Hello i need some help to find out what happens to my kde and hopefully reverse the changes.Short system information:Kubuntu 13.10 with newest available kernel for amd64 and nvidia graphic running on nvidia driver(not the open source).  What i've done: Was trying to get my DungeonKeeper2 to run with PlayOnLinux.The last try killed my kde, the only thing i saw was a big cursor(low resolution effect), the nice new blue dots in the left and right upper corn
[06:47] <MySystem> !pastebin
[06:48] <MySystem> thx ubottu also was my idea after post
[06:53] <MySystem> sry for spam here the formated version http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502917/
[07:09] <MySystem> ui and sry again writing this text took longer as expected its getting early here(germany) and need to go to bed but i will come back in 8-12h and then i will stay much longer. have a nice day/night, special thx and sry to those who read the text and thought about it but pls keep in mind if you have ideas
[08:01] <Caleb--> what's the deal with muon-updater? i fear it more than i fear the iranian nukes
[08:01] <Caleb--> it's like a russian roulette. most of the time the updater hangs at some process and i end up having to shut it down
[08:02] <Caleb--> and then manually remove locks on the dpkg database
[08:02] <Caleb--> for example, i'm trying to update now and it's stuck on "Configuring update-notifier-common"
[08:12] <valorie> Caleb--: have you filed/given your input on a muon-updater bug?
[08:13] <Caleb--> no, i have no idea how to preciesely reproduce it, or what the underlying problem is
[08:13] <Caleb--> (i'm a linux newbie, btw. running kubuntu on a VM)
[08:13] <valorie> that is a hard one, for sure
[08:13] <valorie> might be this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/muon/+bug/1245061
[08:14] <valorie> would be good to add your input, then the devel can contact you to test fixes
[08:15] <Caleb--> btw, i'm trying to make the fonts in KDE look a little more like they do on windows.  i've played with the KDE Fonts settings dialog.  any idea idea where these settings are stored?
[08:16] <Caleb--> because i read about  ~/.fonts.conf file that you can create, and i was wondering if that file wil override my KDE settings, or will just get ignored
[08:16] <valorie> hmmm
[08:16] <valorie> !fonts
[08:16] <valorie> might be of help
[08:16] <Caleb--> i already installed the fonts
[08:16] <Caleb--> http://superuser.com/questions/8824/bad-font-anti-aliasing-in-ubuntu?rq=1
[08:16] <Caleb--> look at the Ubuntu screenshot in that post
[08:17] <Caleb--> it seems to me that the fonts in Ubuntu are a little "bolder" than the Windows ones.
[08:18] <valorie> gosh, it's been years since I had to mess with fonts at all
[08:19] <valorie> I use the ubuntu font for nearly everything, although that isn't the most loved in KDE-land
[08:19] <valorie> works for me in Kubuntu though
[08:20] <Caleb--> ah
[08:20] <Caleb--> i copied my windows fonts over
[08:21] <Caleb--> Consolas is an awesome monospaced font
[08:22] <valorie> I don't see anywhere in the ~/.kde folder where font stuff would be
[08:22] <valorie> so your fonts.conf file will probably do the trick
[08:23] <Caleb--> ok
[08:23] <Caleb--> the Fonts dialog covers most options, except the "autohint" one
[08:23] <valorie> or in .config
[10:06] <Tjaden> hola buenos dias
[10:16] <alket> Hi I am having a problem with Chrome and Ktorrent with magnet link, whenever I click a magnet link in Chrome the Ktorrent opens but download doesn't start and in System Notifications its always pending ? Thank you in advance !
[11:25] <jarkko_> why ufw is disabled by default??
[12:09] <frank1> hallo
[12:09] <frank1>  hoe kan ik op mijn schermrand zien dat bv firefox is geminmalizeerd?
[12:10] <frank1> had dir eerst wel   blijkbaar iets fout gedaan
[12:10] <frank1> dit
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <MySystem> hi blueskaj
[12:20] <BluesKaj> hi MySystem
[12:20] <MySystem> and hello all the others i have a problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502917/
[12:22] <BluesKaj> which nvidia card ?
[12:23] <MySystem> Geforce GTX 550 TI on nvidia driver version 304.108
[12:25] <forgeaus> nvidia is a problem for me too I get nothing absoultely black during boot ...
[12:25] <BluesKaj> on13.10 ?
[12:25] <forgeaus> have to start in recovery mode...
[12:25] <BluesKaj> MySystem.^
[12:25] <forgeaus> yes 13.10
[12:25] <forgeaus> was working before dist upgrade
[12:25] <MySystem> also 13.10 thought i wrote it
[12:26] <forgeaus> fixed my boot issues with grub (went to grub2) but no ptolemy is it? no X (unless X runs but I just don't see it)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> MySystem.  13.10 as well ?
[12:26] <MySystem> yes blueskaj
[12:26] <forgeaus> if I run in recovery mode I can get into my kdesktop though
[12:26] <forgeaus> just have to log into a virtual terminal and startx;startkde
[12:27] <MySystem> forgeaus which driver the opensource or the one from nvidia
[12:27] <forgeaus> I used jokey-kde and it didn't matter
[12:28] <forgeaus> I tried both no difference once it changed unless the change didn't go through
[12:28] <forgeaus> but the selected one is different
[12:28] <forgeaus> so I'm assuming it worked
[12:28] <forgeaus> actually I don't think it did now, I'll try loading the restricted one again
[12:28] <BluesKaj> MySystem. latest proptietary driver should be the 3.19
[12:29] <MySystem> whith my low experience i would try to uninstall and reinstall the driver and let it regenerate the xorg.conf (if it exists) but iam also here for help and not a pro
[12:29] <forgeaus> I don't even kow if its the driver that is the problem though
[12:30] <MySystem> ok thats interessting but can this cause all the kde settings loss?
[12:30] <MySystem> but i will download and try it elseway
[12:30] <forgeaus> I don't have a settings loss
[12:32] <BluesKaj> in kmenu>apps>system>additional drivers , there should be some choices , run the cursor over each one to find the 3,19 then choose it to install, it will auto remove the old driver while installing
[12:33] <MySystem> the cursor that would be a nice feature *smile* but i try to get there keyboard helps
[12:35] <MySystem> yes i know forgeaus be i have as i said iam also here for help
[12:36] <MySystem> sry i should start writing reciever names for text
[12:37] <BluesKaj> the 3.19 should be the nvidia-current driver for most nvidia cards on saucy , you can do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current in the terminal or the shell/tty , ctrl+alt+F1 - F6 . this goes for you too forgeaus
[12:38] <MySystem> nice idea blueskaj would be much easier
[12:38] <forgeaus> ok I'll try it
[12:38] <forgeaus> this gui installer has stalled anyway
[12:38] <forgeaus> and I don't particularly feel like rebooting right now
[12:40] <BluesKaj> forgeaus. MySystem , once the driver installs , a reboot will be required
[12:40] <forgeaus> yeah I know
[12:41] <MySystem> i know that would be no problem
[12:41] <MySystem> first apt have to be rdy
[12:41] <forgeaus> but I'm multitasking with some other stuff... so right now just isn't a good time to reboot thats all
[12:43] <MySystem> ok its rdy iam going for restart see you in a min
[12:51] <MySystem> back but for some reason the old driver is still active (used the graphical version additional driver will now try via konsole direct apt
[12:52] <BluesKaj> MySystem. wait
[12:53] <MySystem> ok i took a look in aptitude there is an "i" for installed at beginning of the nvidia-319* line
[12:53] <MySystem> but also a c bevor nvidia-304* (the old one)
[12:55] <BluesKaj> first run this in the terminal. glxinfo | grep OpenGL , the installed driver will show beside "version string "
[12:56] <forgeaus> for me it returns :
[12:56] <BluesKaj> you may need to install mesa-utils
[12:56] <forgeaus> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560/PCIe/SSE2
[12:56] <forgeaus> OpenGL version string: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 319.60
[12:57] <forgeaus> and a few other lines that don't seem relevant unless you want them
[12:57] <BluesKaj> forgeaus. ok , then you should be fine , unless there is sometrhing else amiss
[12:58] <soee> good morning :)
[12:58] <MySystem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504048/ ok looks good
[12:58] <MySystem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504048/
[12:59] <BluesKaj> ok MySystem you should be fibe too
[12:59] <BluesKaj> fine
[12:59] <forgeaus> should be
[13:00] <forgeaus> I think all the nvidia packages (or thsoe they point to if they're meta) are marked as installed anyway
[13:00] <MySystem> ok thats good now i have the new nvidia driver ever good to have but the problems ignore that
[13:01] <forgeaus> yeah the settings thing sounds like a different problem from mine
[13:01] <forgeaus> and neither of us sounds like we had graphic driver problems anyway lol
[13:02] <BluesKaj> mucked up kde needs fixing, reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[13:02] <forgeaus> kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[13:02] <MySystem> i hope that was not the solution for me blueskaj else *unhappy*
[13:03] <forgeaus> MySystem, don't be unhappy, its not BluesKaj's fault,
[13:03] <forgeaus> he's trying to assist you ... remember
[13:03] <MySystem> that is clear blueskaj is the best
[13:03] <forgeaus> it would be nice if it helped admittedly ...
[13:04] <MySystem> he is the one who ever helped me think he now i like him
[13:04] <forgeaus> I'm not going to know until I reset which I think I'm almost about to do
[13:04] <MySystem> unhappy because of the fear to loose more kde settings be reinstalling
[13:04] <MySystem> be= at
[13:05] <forgeaus> MySystem, maybe #KDE people might have more idea about this, there was problems early on with KDE4 not remembering settings
[13:05] <BluesKaj> MySystem. do you have the kubuntu backports enabled in muon or sources.list ?
[13:05] <rwc2> what is expected to be quicker: scrubing my system of the ati/amd drivers i want to uninstall, or reinstalling the OS
[13:06] <MySystem> dont thnik so blueskaj but will look and post
[13:06] <BluesKaj> the former , rwc2
[13:06] <rwc2> BluesKaj, i've followed some instructions found on google, but they still remain
[13:07] <forgeaus> how do I add backports now?
[13:08] <MySystem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504079/ no i dont see backports in sources
[13:08] <BluesKaj> rwc2. if you have a particular driver in mind and ready to install , usually the installer will auto remove the old driver
[13:08] <forgeaus> sources looks all different
[13:08] <forgeaus> than what I remember
[13:09] <rwc2> rwc2, i just want to regress to the default kubuntu driver
[13:09] <rwc2> BluesKaj, ^^
[13:09] <MySystem> oh iam blind
[13:10] <MySystem> blueskaj there is an entry http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu saucy-backports
[13:11] <BluesKaj> never mind , not a good idea, for regular users , the backports are for devs and bleeding edge users , sometimes I forget ..sorry forgeaus and MySystem
[13:12] <BluesKaj> MySystem. yes those the official source backports
[13:12] <MySystem> ok so this entry isnt my result should i go on with reinstalling kubuntu-desktop
[13:13] <BluesKaj> yes
[13:14] <MySystem> ok do you have a cmd for me because synaptic without mouse isnt nice and apt-get i only knew install remove but no reinstall also think i have to shut down the kde first
[13:15] <MySystem> sry that i want this but brwosing without cursor also isnt nice and its not the time for more experiments
[13:16] <forgeaus> ugh synaptic, I prefer muon
[13:16] <forgeaus> note: I have similar issues with my mouse but only in Gnome
[13:16] <BluesKaj> MySystem. sudo apt-get install -reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[13:16] <forgeaus> or unity I think
[13:16] <MySystem> i hate muon *smile* to userfriendly
[13:16] <forgeaus> it works fine with my KDE mouse theme though
[13:16] <MySystem> thx blueskaj
[13:17] <forgeaus> there is such a thing as too user-friendly?
[13:17] <forgeaus> uh blues I think that just installs the metapackage alone doesn't it?
[13:17] <forgeaus> not its dependancies
[13:18] <forgeaus> unless theres missing dependancies taht is
[13:18] <MySystem> dont think so forgeaus but i dont like the way it works it looks and also had some problems with it since the 13.10 updates
[13:18] <forgeaus> fair enough I guess MySystem I haven't had such problems personally so can't exactly say
[13:18] <BluesKaj> synaptic works well in ubnuntu , but i found it unstable in kubuntu for some reason , anyway muon is mature enough now to be reliable in my experience
[13:19] <forgeaus> poor old adept lol
[13:19] <forgeaus> I miss kpackage
[13:20] <BluesKaj> forgeaus. if you have any suggestions that can help here , feel free to do so
[13:20] <forgeaus> I used to be able to mess with some slackware packages (simple straight binary only ones) and add them to kubuntu without problems lol
[13:20] <forgeaus> BluesKaj: no eye deer ...
[13:20] <MySystem> my apt have done this cmd in a few seconds blueskaj reboot now?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> relogin should suffice
[13:21] <MySystem> k
[13:21] <MySystem> then be back
[13:23] <BluesKaj> for I think adept sort of morphed into muon iirc
[13:23] <BluesKaj> forgeaus.^
[13:23] <forgeaus> yeah pretty much seems to have
[13:23] <forgeaus> kpackagekit or something like that was inbetween ...
[13:24] <BluesKaj> yeah I used synaptic for yrs
[13:24] <forgeaus> now that seems like some kinda backend or something ...
[13:24] <forgeaus> one of the dystros had a kynaptic
[13:24] <forgeaus> lol distros if I can type it right
[13:24] <BluesKaj> well they all use dpkg anyway , it's the base
[13:24] <forgeaus> yeah
[13:25] <forgeaus> apt, aptitude, etc are all just different levels of front end to dpkg
[13:26] <forgeaus> muon being a gui one
[13:26] <forgeaus> but kpackage was different in a way, because it let you hold multiple types of repos (like emerge, rpm, tgz, possubly conary, etc)
[13:27] <forgeaus> more of a gui frontend to smart (which in itself was all that)
[13:27] <forgeaus> wb MySystem
[13:27] <MySystem> thx
[13:27] <MySystem> sadly i dont see any changes
[13:29] <MySystem> but i stay optimistic its linux there is one or more way
[13:29] <forgeaus> so maybe its a security issue? or settings are getting rewritten back? either that or not changing in the first place, or changing for the wrong user?... just throwing out ideas...
[13:30] <forgeaus> (I wonder if he xepyhrs to a root user desktop if the changes are there or not? )
[13:30] <forgeaus> just a thought, but I'm not sure it would be helpful
[13:30] <MySystem> thx iam happy for any idea , wrong user i dont think so there isnt another normal kde user like uid 1001
[13:31] <forgeaus> MySystem, yeah but you are making changes right? those changes aren't being kept, or aren't being written, I was just wondering if the changes went somewhere, just not to the right place?...
[13:32] <forgeaus> or is the right place just too well security-protected to be adjusted?...
[13:33] <MySystem> that is an interessting idea because i haven't tried to change settings so i dont know if they are kept or not the only setting i changes was nvidia graphic to get view on my default monitor but these are written to xorg.conf by nvidia
[13:33] <forgeaus> still kde settings like icon themes and stuff are probably somewhere buried in a .file or place under ~ (as in /home/<user>)
[13:34] <forgeaus> well settings in /etc are systemwide so require root priviliges to change
[13:34] <MySystem> yes nvidia driver asks for root access
[13:34] <forgeaus> in fact any settings outside of the whole ~ subtree should require root to alter
[13:35] <MySystem> i will have a look in dolphin at the kde settings folder
[13:35] <forgeaus> but many user kde settings are just for the user so somewehre inside the ~ subtree
[13:35] <forgeaus> hehe I use krusader ... never really liked the switch to dolphin
[13:36] <forgeaus> the whole breadcrumbs bar just ruined it for me... felt like it was trying to be nautilus ...
[13:38] <MySystem> yes /home/[user]/.kde/share/config
[13:39] <forgeaus> sounds like a reasonable place to put them yeah
[13:39] <MySystem> if iam not missinterpreting this the old settings are still there, i searched for a config file where i know what i set and what isnt present atm so i opened kwinrulesrc and found some settings like my synaptic have to start on desktop 4
[13:40] <MySystem> dimensions positions of other which i set are also known to me
[13:41] <forgeaus> so whats that mean?
[13:41] <forgeaus> its got a different set for each virtual desktop? or is desktop 4 something else?
[13:42] <MySystem> i think my old "lost" settings are still there where they have to be but iam not 100% sure
[13:42] <forgeaus> (I named mine)
[13:42] <forgeaus> so if they're still there why aren't they being used when you log in is the question then right?
[13:42] <MySystem> which config saves the backgrounds
[13:43] <BluesKaj> MySystem. you shouldn't try to modify kde conf files directly , that's what system settings gui is for
[13:43] <MySystem> good question they are at the right place (at my knowlegde) owner and group are my username and right are user rw group and others none
[13:43] <forgeaus> I'm not sure the desktop 4 thing is helpful though if you've used synaptic and its start on desktop 4 then wouldn't whatever other changes you made to desktop 4 (your default?) would go through ...
[13:44] <forgeaus> besides I think its only the background and activites that you can set to be desktop-specific isn't it? ...
[13:45] <forgeaus> I doubt you'd be able to set a while different kdestyle or cursor set etc. to each desktop ...
[13:46] <MySystem> ok a test with synaptic shows it starts at desktop 4 and another thing happens had the file opened in kate and it recognize that the file has changed as i started synaptic
[13:47] <MySystem> yes background activities widgets and was set for each kdestyle and cursor i think you're right that this isnt possible for each desktop
[13:48] <forgeaus> so if you change something global it should work for that user ...
[13:49] <forgeaus> (or confine backgrounds/widget sets to NOT be desktop specific - making those changes global too - for that user in the desktop sense anyway) ....
[13:51] <forgeaus> wouldn't half life 3 make it 1.5th of a life? lol kidding
[14:03] <MySystem> *smile*
[14:03] <MySystem> iam looking over the config which one i can test change, have to be some file with atm missing settings, also sorted by file change date but without a cursor it takes a bit longer
[14:04] <MySystem> short afk to go for a smoke
[14:05] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:05] <MySystem> hello lordievader
[14:06] <lordievader> Hey MySystem, how are you?
[14:07] <MySystem> unhappy i killed somehow a lot of kde settings
[14:07] <MySystem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502917/
[14:07] <MySystem> and how are you
[14:08] <lordievader> Doing ok, having a fight with Window's portproxy rules.
[14:08] <lordievader> But I do have mint tea, so that makes up for it I guess.
[14:10] <lordievader> MySystem: Make a new user and see if that new user has the same problems.
[14:11] <MySystem> then i hope it make it for you , and a new user interessting idea but this one doesnt have settings set that can get lost, by the way settings i make now seems to take effekt and stay
[14:12] <forgeaus> but does it stay between sessions?
[14:12] <forgeaus> current session is fine, between sessions is another matter
[14:12] <MySystem> for this i have to leave you short be back in a min
[14:12] <forgeaus> no problem
[14:13] <forgeaus> I'll be here
[14:19] <MySystem> back
[14:20] <MySystem> ok i tested with widget because these are all lost and the test widget is still there
[14:22] <MySystem> a question what is lightdm because i think to restart this service was my fault
[14:23] <lordievader> MySystem: Lightdm is your displaymanager/login screen.
[14:24] <MySystem> ok can someone imagine what happens if i restart lightdm while kde is logged on with my user and runnning
[14:25] <lordievader> MySystem: Since those programs depend on X and X is killed, the programs that depend on it are killed too.
[14:26] <MySystem> ok nearly that was my idea as i sended the restart cmd
[14:28] <MySystem> ok now i go realy for a smoke the last try failed because of ides
[14:28] <MySystem> ideas
[14:36] <MySystem> ok friend came with another pc with something todo i think my probs have to wait
[14:38] <MySystem> i stay here if ideas tell pls else i test and tell here later first thx lordievader blueskaj forgeaus for all the ideas we go on later
[14:44] <BluesKaj> BBL
[14:49] <Robbiecano> !ops | help my penis is stuck in my 40oz beer how can i get it out?
[14:49] <jussi> Robbiecano: again?
[14:57] <forgeaus> wow they're still developing Kpackage apparently ...
[15:01] <ovrflw0x> http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found <-- what to do now?
[15:03] <forgeaus> ovr 32-bit? could you run the amd64 version instead? .. (assuming thats not missing too)
[15:13] <ovrflw0x> forgeaus: that's missing too 404
[15:13] <forgeaus> ouch
[15:13] <ovrflw0x> aoouch
[15:14] <ovrflw0x> AAAaaaaaaooouch
[15:14] <forgeaus> well its plausible it has moved sites? ... google where to get it from now I guess ...
[15:15] <ovrflw0x> hey forgeaus what's going on?
[15:15] <ovrflw0x> how long have you been using kubuntu?
[15:15] <forgeaus> oh since about Edgy
[15:15] <forgeaus> on and off..
[15:15] <ovrflw0x> and when was edgy?
[15:15] <ovrflw0x> 2007?
[15:15] <forgeaus> something like that
[15:16] <ovrflw0x> you looked at no other distro since 2007 forgeaus?
[15:16] <forgeaus> thats not correct...
[15:16] <forgeaus> I've LOOKED at many, even used some since then
[15:16] <ovrflw0x> so what's the conclusion ?
[15:16] <forgeaus> and looked at some others before then, though none successfully ...
[15:16] <ovrflw0x> so what's the conclusion?
[15:16] <forgeaus> I like how kde feels so integrated with kubuntu
[15:16] <forgeaus> with something like PCLinuxOS it looks and feels more like kde slapped on top of another distro
[15:17] <forgeaus> while kubuntu is similar (ie kde slapped on top of Ubuntu - currently
[15:17] <forgeaus> it doesn't feel separate
[15:18] <forgeaus> (that being said I think PC-BSD does an ok job of KDE on BSD ... )
[15:19] <forgeaus> maybe thats because back when I used PCLinuxOS there were KDE alternatives taht weren't taken advantage of, like x-chat instead of something like konversation or quassel
[15:20] <forgeaus> and the desktop wallpaper was a PCLinuxOS specific one that didn't have any KDE feel...
[15:20] <forgeaus> but thats just cosmetic
[15:35] <forgeaus> hey MySystem how's it going?
[15:36] <forgeaus> lordie are you still there? why lightdm instead of kdm?
[15:40] <MySystem> have another pc patient here from guest have to do it first
[15:40] <MySystem> my have to wait but will tell and test later on
[17:24] <aPpYe> I am building a KDE system from Ubuntu mini 13.10.  I have apt-get's Install-Recommends feature disabled.  If I build the system WITH recommends, everything is fine.  If I build WITHOUT, the Languages tab under Locale in System Settings is stuck with a progress meter that hangs at 0% forever.
[17:25] <aPpYe> Linked…  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505158/  ...is a list of packages (what would come with Install-Recommends enabled) that fixes the issue.  I am having a really hard time figuring out what package(s) from this list are required for the Language tab to work correctly.
[17:25] <aPpYe> any help is appreciated.
[17:27] <aPpYe> hm.  maybe #ubuntu ...
[17:38] <ovrflw0x> hey aPpYe
[17:38] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there?
[17:38] <ovrflw0x> bud
[17:48] <aPpYe> ovrflw0x, I am here now. ..
[17:48] <aPpYe> walked away for a minute.
[18:01] <aPpYe> sigh...
[18:03] <dbc254> bought an external drive enclosure for my 2.5 laptop drive on ebay. Works just fine on Windows machines. Linux? Not so much.
[18:04] <dbc254> What am I doing wrong. Formatted using NTFS. Little 300gb drive.
[18:04] <dbc254> usb powered, no external power supply
[18:07]  * aPpYe is afraid to walk away from his computer
[18:09] <aPpYe> dbc254, I would start with a standard fat32 format for an external drive and see what happens from there.
[18:09] <aPpYe> oh ... 300gb
[18:10] <dbc254> Is there a limitation?
[18:10] <dbc254> I went with NTFS, because of the 4gig limitation of adding large files.
[18:11] <dbc254> I can't even see the drive on Kubuntu. Have a windows machine at work, so I have to take the drive to work to reformat.
[18:12] <aPpYe> 32gb officially, but I have formatted larger.  Most of the time usb drives appear as /dev/sd* on my system.  NTFS should work though.  Do you see any additional items (by typing ls -al /dev/sd*) before/after you plug the device in?
[18:13] <aPpYe> but the 4gb limitation is something that cannot be gotten around with fat32
[18:14] <aPpYe> also, you could try installing ntfs-3g, but I have not played with external ntfs drives under linux much.  I know I have gotten it to work before.
[18:15] <aPpYe> but I think that should already be installed on a standard kubuntu ...
[18:16] <aPpYe> so ... from konsole, try ls -al /dev/sd* ... then plug in the device and run the same command and see if any other /dev/sd* items appear.
[18:18] <aPpYe> ovrflw0x, I am worried that you had some magic answer for me ...
[18:18] <aPpYe> and I missed ti.
[18:26] <dbc254> kubuntu can't see it. .   I had no idea there was a 32gb external limitation. I have two external drives running NTFS. One was store-bought and one was an enclosure for a 3.5 SATA drive with power supply. This litle usb only drive enclosure is for a 2.5. Both of the aforementioned drives are 500gb
[18:27] <dbc254> I thought it was this cheap enclosure until I took it to work and it works just fine. . .
[18:28] <aPpYe> no ... 32gb limitation on fat32, according to microsoft, no limitation on external drives.
[18:31] <ovrflw0x> hey aPpYe i just wanted to say that your nickname looks like a furry bunny
[18:32] <aPpYe> lol ... sigh.
[18:32] <aPpYe> thanks for getting my hopes up.
[18:32] <aPpYe> and what?
[18:32] <ovrflw0x> what's your problem anyways?
[18:32] <aPpYe> I am building a KDE system from Ubuntu mini 13.10.  I have apt-get's Install-Recommends feature disabled.  If I build the system WITH recommends, everything is fine.  If I build WITHOUT, the Languages tab under Locale in System Settings is stuck with a progress meter that hangs at 0% forever.
[18:32] <aPpYe> Linked…  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505158/  ...is a list of packages (what would come with Install-Recommends enabled) that fixes the issue.  I am having a really hard time figuring out what package(s) from this list are required for the Language tab to work correctly.
[18:35] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: what do you mean you are bulding KDE?
[18:35] <ovrflw0x> are you building from source?
[18:35] <aPpYe> not from source ...
[18:36] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: are you on live cd?
[18:36] <aPpYe> just building a system from the regular ubuntu repos using the ubuntu mini .iso...  It is liek building a debian system, starting from a command line
[18:37] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: why don't you "remove" languages that you don't need?
[18:37] <ovrflw0x> from system settings
[18:37] <ovrflw0x> is there any option to do that?
[18:37] <aPpYe> not the issue, I just want the language tab to work.  in system settings, the language tab hangs at 0% and I cannot figure out why.
[18:38] <ovrflw0x> and what do you mean by lanauge tab?
[18:38] <ovrflw0x> is there some sort of GUI?
[18:39] <aPpYe> System Settings > Locale > Languages (tab)
[18:40] <ovrflw0x> oh so you don't get the option to "choose" your locale correct?
[18:40] <aPpYe> yeah ...
[18:40] <aPpYe> but I do if I install with recommends enabled.
[18:40] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: why don't you install "all" of them and then later "remove" not needed locales?
[18:41] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ?
[18:42] <ovrflw0x> you get what i'm saying?
[18:43] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: follow this to remove not required locale... http://askubuntu.com/questions/58191/how-can-i-uninstall-a-locale-via-command-line
[18:44] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there bud/
[18:44] <ovrflw0x> ?
[18:44] <aPpYe> ovrflw0x, this is not the issue.  I am not trying to add or remove locales.  I am trying to get the language tab to function.
[18:45] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you said "tab" functions once all recommended packages are intalled?!?
[18:45] <ovrflw0x> installed*
[18:45] <aPpYe> when I builld this system for friends and family, I want them to be able to click on the language tab and select what they want.  Some of them might want other languages.
[18:46] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: then what's wrong with "default" recommended packages?
[18:47] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ?? wtf ?? are you doing? reply fast
[18:47] <aPpYe> http://forums.linuxmint.com/download/file.php?id=13897&mode=view
[18:48] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: i know where tab gets stuck
[18:48] <aPpYe> that is what the languages tab looks like on this system.  I am not building a kubuntu system.  I am building a kde system based on ubuntu mini with my own package selections.
[18:48] <aPpYe> I want recommends turned off so I only get strict dependencies.
[18:48] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: type this in terminal [localedef --list-archive]
[18:48] <ovrflw0x> what do you get?
[18:50] <aPpYe> a long list of en_ languages
[18:50] <aPpYe> well, about 20 lines
[18:51] <aPpYe> including en_US.utf8
[18:52] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: do "sudo locale-gen"
[18:52] <ovrflw0x> in terminal
[18:52] <ovrflw0x> then again open locale in system settings
[18:53] <aPpYe> okay, I rebooted the vm ... hold on.
[18:54] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: why did you reboot? any specific reason?
[18:55] <aPpYe> because I have had luck with wiping the user profile and rebooting.
[18:56] <aPpYe> okay, still stuck at 0%, running locale-gen now ...
[18:57] <aPpYe> still stuck at 0% ...
[18:57] <aPpYe> here is how I am doing things...
[18:57] <aPpYe> I built a couple of metapackages.
[18:58] <aPpYe> I install my system with apt-get install appye-kde
[18:58] <aPpYe> install-recommends is disabled in apt.conf.d
[18:58] <ovrflw0x> do this in terminal 'sudo apt-get install calligra-l10n-pl firefox-locale-pl kde-l10n-pl language-pack-pl language-pack-pl-base'
[18:58] <ovrflw0x> polish language just e.g.
[18:59] <aPpYe> if I install with --install-recommends, languages tab is functional
[18:59] <aPpYe> hold on running your command...
[19:00] <aPpYe> when installing without --install-recommends, language tab stuck at 0%
[19:00] <ovrflw0x> did you run the command?
[19:01] <aPpYe> if I install without ---install-recommends, but manually install the recommended packages along with appye-kde, languages tab is fine.
[19:01] <ovrflw0x> then wtf is your problem now?
[19:01] <aPpYe> if I install without --install-recommends, and THEN install the recommended packages manually, I cannot get the tab to work
[19:02] <aPpYe> last command did not work.
[19:02] <aPpYe> I will try locale-gen again followed by loggiing out and back on.
[19:05] <ovrflw0x> also type this command after "locale-gen" 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'
[19:06] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: done?
[19:07] <aPpYe> okay, running the last command now ...
[19:08] <aPpYe> complete.  opening ssystem settings.
[19:08] <aPpYe> still hanging.
[19:09] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=140411 <-- fix for it
[19:10] <silke_> hhh
[19:10] <silke_> hi, bist du da?
[19:12] <Guest28270> silke???
[19:12] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: does this post work? http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=109&t=140411#p750554
[19:12] <silke_> s
[19:13] <aPpYe> yeah, still hung language tab.  right now the system is set up as follows:  install-recommends is DISABLED:  I installed appye-kde, THEN installed the recommended packages list ... logged in for the first time and languages tab stuck.  I logged out and wiped the profile, rebooted and logged back in.  I ran all the commands you suggested and still have the problem.  I am still looking through the thread you sent me
[19:13] <aPpYe> okay reading post
[19:17] <aPpYe> that is a lot of crap that isn't even in my list ...  Arny006 is saying to install a bunch of language packs for different languages, gnome and firefox stuff that I do not have on another system that is already working fine (languages tab-wise) without any of that stuff.
[19:18] <aPpYe> but I will run the command to see if things get better on this vm.
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: wait
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there?
[19:19] <aPpYe> yeah ...
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> do this
[19:19] <aPpYe> installing this mountain of crap ...
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> no dont'
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> hold on
[19:19] <aPpYe> okay, cancelled ... still downloading so nothing done.
[19:19] <ovrflw0x> do this in terminal "kcmshell4 language" and monitor the output in terminal
[19:20] <aPpYe> is an ssh session to the box okay?
[19:20] <aPpYe> or do I need the gui?
[19:20] <ovrflw0x> GUI
[19:20] <aPpYe> okay,
[19:20] <aPpYe> copy/paste will not work because I do not have the vm additions installed.
[19:20] <ovrflw0x> what?
[19:21] <ovrflw0x> oh ok
[19:21] <ovrflw0x> type in terminal "kcmshell4 language" and see the output in terminal
[19:21] <ovrflw0x> to know what's causing the problem
[19:22] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: what do you see?
[19:22] <aPpYe> nothing whatsoever!
[19:23] <ovrflw0x> do you see locale window popping up?
[19:23] <silke_> verstehe kein wort
[19:23] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ?
[19:23] <ovrflw0x> are you in KDE?
[19:24] <aPpYe> yeah, the gui comes up, and I click on different tabs, click on defaults, and choose apply, and nothing on the konnsole.
[19:24] <silke_> no in gnome
[19:24] <ovrflw0x> ok
[19:25] <aPpYe> that thread suggests an internet problem aaaaaaa well, but I can ping google no problems.
[19:30] <Taduro_> Do you guys know how to have an animated wallpaper?
[19:32] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: maybe try this and see where it gets stuck "strace -eopen -f kcmshell4 language"
[19:32] <dougl> Taduro_, what did you have in mind?
[19:33] <dougl> ... that sounds cool
[19:33] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ?
[19:33] <aPpYe> producing all kinds of output, but no GUI
[19:33] <ovrflw0x> wait and see where it gets stuck
[19:34] <aPpYe> okay, hold on I clicked on a few things and made it move again.
[19:34] <aPpYe> let me try it again.
[19:36] <aPpYe> okay, let me post the results ... hold on.
[19:38] <aPpYe> installing pastebinit ... please wait
[19:38] <Taduro_> dougl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdHOJiTkcg0
[19:40] <aPpYe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505876/         ... I waited for the the gui to come up and then just closed it.
[19:40] <aPpYe> I can adjust settings and get you the entire trace if you want.
[19:44] <dougl> Taduro_, that looks cool... watching the whole vid
[19:45] <Taduro_> dougl: well, is the first video I picked up
[19:45] <Taduro_> anyone knows how?
[19:46] <aPpYe> ovrflw0x, brb ...
[19:47] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe:
[19:48] <aPpYe> here
[19:48] <dougl> Taduro_,  I will be able to figure it out... just need to be properly motivated need to find something that I would like rather than the static Asus branded box I just finnished
[19:49] <ovrflw0x>  aPpYe what do you see in "/usr/share/locale"?
[19:51] <aPpYe> ovrflw0x,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505923/
[19:52] <dougl> Taduro_, reading the post with that video there is only 2 patterns that you can animate... 2 choices is not the reason I use linux ;)
[19:52] <dougl> ... or am I missing something?
[19:53] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: what's output of this "kde4-config --path data"
[19:54] <aPpYe> one moment ...
[19:56] <aPpYe> /home/appye/.kde/share/apps/:/usr/share/kde4/apps/
[19:57] <ovrflw0x> do you have this file? --> "/etc/kde4rc"?
[19:57] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ^
[19:58] <aPpYe> no.  not on either my host system (which has a working language tab) or on the vm
[19:59] <Taduro_> dougl: you can use any video you want
[20:00] <aPpYe> okay, back in five minutes tops.
[20:00] <dougl> Taduro_, i did not get that...
[20:00] <Taduro_> one sec
[20:02] <dougl> Taduro_, what version are you using? kubuntu?
[20:06] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there?
[20:10] <aPpYe> okay back
[20:10] <aPpYe> ten minutes
[20:10] <ovrflw0x> install this --> kubuntu-settings-desktop
[20:10] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there?
[20:10] <aPpYe> installing now ../.
[20:11] <aPpYe> installed ...
[20:11] <ovrflw0x> what do you get now?
[20:12] <aPpYe> still 0%
[20:12] <ovrflw0x> what's inside "/etc/kde4rc"?
[20:13] <aPpYe> [Directories-default]
[20:13] <aPpYe> prefixes=/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/
[20:14] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: anything else?
[20:14] <aPpYe> that's all
[20:15] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: logout & back in maybe?
[20:15] <aPpYe> okay hold on
[20:15] <aPpYe> rebooting for good measure
[20:15] <ovrflw0x> no
[20:15] <ovrflw0x> just logout back in
[20:16] <aPpYe> huh!  it does look like a bunny!
[20:16] <ovrflw0x> what?
[20:16] <aPpYe> your comment about my handle
[20:17] <aPpYe> aPpYe
[20:17] <ovrflw0x> did you log back in?
[20:17] <aPpYe> logging in now ...
[20:19] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: ?
[20:19] <aPpYe> still same problem
[20:19] <ovrflw0x> try to remove ~/.kde logoutback in
[20:20] <aPpYe> done that a millllion times ... will try again.
[20:21] <aPpYe> heh ... vm aborted.  wonderful.
[20:22] <aPpYe> booting up again.
[20:22] <aPpYe> I am gonna have to leave for a while here in a minute.  wife and kid wanna go have lunch.
[20:22] <ovrflw0x> ok
[20:22] <aPpYe> I will leave the channel open and come back later.
[20:22] <aPpYe> thanks for trying.
[20:22] <aPpYe> very nice of you
[20:22] <BluesKaj> BBL
[20:25] <aPpYe> still broken by the way ...
[20:25] <aPpYe> anyway, I gotta get out of here
[20:35] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: you there?
[20:36] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: YOU NEED THIS PACKAGE -->> libencode-locale-perl  <<------------ THIS WILL **FIX** YOUR 0% LOCALE ISSUE!
[20:38] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: sudo apt-get install libencode-local-perl
[20:38] <ovrflw0x> aPpYe: sudo apt-get install libencode-locale-perl <--
[21:46] <MySystem> iam back for those who remeber for the others hello and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502917/ after the morning without a mouse cursor i think this is the most important thing
[21:49] <MySystem> found something new after an idea the desktop effects settings shows at the first tab need x-xtensensions XComposite and XDamage are not available
[21:55] <Neikius> hello, having some problems installing mysql server; this is exactly the same problem:http://askubuntu.com/questions/261250/dpkg-invoke-rc-d-initscript-mysql-action-start-failed/ - my problem is that the suggested solution (purging mysql-common) doesn't seem so bright, upwards of 60 kde packages are dependant on it...
[21:55] <devilguy> всем привет не подскажите как сделать респин кубунты ? :)
[21:58] <soee> !de
[21:58] <soee> !ru
[21:59] <devilguy> hi all anybody can tell me how to create kubuntu respin ? ( buntu ) my skills sysadmin  but i stunnet  ^)
[21:59] <Neikius> any ideas regarding my predicament?
[21:59] <ikonia> devilguy: what have you done so far ?
[22:02] <devilguy> uck not work none packet  manager ^) and fail build ,remaster sys nice but not all as we would like , older i use ubuntu-builder but now it not work ..
[22:02] <ikonia> ....so what have you actually done
[22:03] <devilguy> chroot bit does not work Aptitude
[22:03] <ikonia> can't be bothered,
[22:06] <devilguy> i have just packet manager for programms , terminal for customized design and finaly compleate build  ^)
[22:08] <devilguy> like as opensuse studion ^) but i like kubuntu as 3 years on my netbook and i happy ^)
[23:18] <MySystem> blueskaj lordievader i have my mouse cursor back (i deleted the xorg.conf,rebooted and then set the resolution monitor settings via kde settings not via nvidia
[23:49] <SaveME> !ops