[00:51] <Ynnaf> Hey, I shall ask a very very basic question. Tho, nobody helps. Nor on ubuntu nor on mint. So I'm quite stuck and I don't know if it's because it's silly, or because nobody actually knows or spend 5sec explaining me :/
[00:51] <Ynnaf> there it is : for adding this PPA https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers" good or what ? I'm really not familiar with it :(
[00:54] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: this command will add the repository to your sources.list
[00:54] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: it will not directly install any packages
[00:55] <Ynnaf> Coud you tell me where I am mistaking after it ? I'm doing a "apt-get update"
[00:55] <Ynnaf> then
[00:55] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: since this repository contains packages with the same name as the ones provided by ubuntu, they will replaced when you execute
[00:55] <Ynnaf> I try to install th added package in the PPA, and fails to find it.
[00:55] <DarkPlayer> sudo apt-get update
[00:55] <DarkPlayer> sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:56] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: which specific package do you want to install?
[00:56] <Ynnaf> ho, necessarly upgrade for seeing the new packages ?
[00:56] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: now, but it is necessary to upgrade from the original ubuntu packages to the ones in the ppa
[00:56] <DarkPlayer> no*
[00:57] <Ynnaf> I want to install libg3dvl-mesa
[00:57] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: which ubuntu version are you using?
[00:58] <Ynnaf> fa@i5 ~/Bureau $ uname -a
[00:58] <Ynnaf> Linux i5 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:58] <DarkPlayer> that is only the kernel version
[00:58] <DarkPlayer> execute  cat /etc/os-release  | grep VERSION
[00:58] <Ynnaf> Well I'm on mint15, dunno what the version of the ubuntu base :/
[00:58] <Ynnaf> VERSION="13.04, Raring Ringtail"
[00:58] <Ynnaf> VERSION_ID="13.04"
[00:59] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: the packages in this PPA are only for Saucy
[00:59] <Ynnaf> Ho no ! :/
[00:59] <DarkPlayer> that is the reason why you can not use / install them
[01:00] <Ynnaf> I so like you giving me this answer. Even if I hate me losing a hour on that.
[01:01] <Ynnaf> The reason why I wanted this is actually this error "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_r600.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[01:01] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: you may be able to build the packages on your own, but i am not sure if this is a good idea since the grpahic stack (xorg, mesa, ...) changes a lot between ubuntu/mint versions
[01:02] <Ynnaf> well I don't want to fo too far in this. I'm not very familiar with the graphics stacks :'(
[01:02] <Ynnaf> *go
[01:06] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: the regular VDPAU support for radeon cards btw is only available since kernel 3.10
[01:08] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: i am not sure if you would also need a more recent kernel or if this package tries to solve the problem differently
[01:08] <Ynnaf> well
[01:08] <Ynnaf> I don't know either
[01:08] <Ynnaf> I'm so stuck é_è
[01:08] <Ynnaf> aherm
[01:10] <Ynnaf> well, maybe I'll just avoid this specific software. (I wish everyone was on archlinux rolling release, I'll not have to face 80 different error on each station :( )
[01:11] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: which program do you have problems with?
[01:12] <Ynnaf> mplayer, I'm trying to import VHS videos ^^
[01:12] <Ynnaf> Well, I coud maybe do it from another linux in a virtualbox ? :o
[01:12] <DarkPlayer> well, vdpau is only for accelerating video output/decoding so it is not really necessary
[01:13] <Ynnaf> are you sure about this ? I Mean everything work but
[01:13] <Ynnaf> I don't get any sound
[01:13] <DarkPlayer> vdpau is for video and not sound ^^
[01:13] <Ynnaf> Andgetting this error about VDPAU may have turned my mind to say "this is the cause"
[01:13] <Ynnaf> well
[01:13] <Ynnaf> that is even more disturbing
[01:14] <DarkPlayer> does your sound work in other applications ?
[01:14] <Ynnaf> yeah perfectly
[01:14] <Ynnaf> yeah perfectly
[01:15] <DarkPlayer> you say you want to import VHS videos, mplayer can only play content, do you instead mean mencoder ?
[01:16] <Ynnaf> mplayer and mencoder are using the same engine, tho
[01:16] <Ynnaf> the problem is when I import the video, i can't get the sound
[01:17] <DarkPlayer> yeah, but there is a difference if there is no sound during the recoding or during the playback of the recorded file
[01:17] <Ynnaf> in the two case, no video
[01:17] <Ynnaf> tried the two of them
[01:17] <Ynnaf> tho, doing it on video is a way to find why there is no sound faster, right ?
 in the two case, no video <-- you mean sound?
[01:18] <Ynnaf> yeah, sorry :/
[01:19] <DarkPlayer> what is your mplayer command line ?
[01:20] <Ynnaf> there is the command & output if you know ho it work ; http://pastebin.com/btwqEjdB
[01:20] <Ynnaf> *how
[01:20] <Ynnaf> well
[01:21] <Ynnaf> I could have removed all the "brightness=0:contrast=-7:hue=0:saturation=0:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL-BG:input=2:fps=25.000:alsa:adevice=hw.0,2,0", I added a lot without doing what I wanted. Only giving the driver works...
[01:22] <DarkPlayer> i think your problem is "Audio: no sound"
[01:22] <Ynnaf> exacly
[01:22] <Ynnaf> But how to trace that ? :(
[01:23] <Ynnaf> maybe another driver ?
[01:23] <Ynnaf> what about "Selected input hasn't got a tuner!" ?
[01:25] <DarkPlayer> try:
[01:25] <DarkPlayer> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:brightness=0:contrast=-7:hue=0:saturation=0:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL-BG:input=2:fps=25.000:alsa:adevice=hw.0:forceaudio:immediatemode=0 tv://MPlayer2
[01:27] <Ynnaf> strange
[01:27] <Ynnaf> "Error opening audio: Device or resource busy
[01:27] <Ynnaf> "
[01:28] <Ynnaf> also, when I redo my first try it works without problem
[01:28] <DarkPlayer> yeah because the audio device is not used at all
[01:28] <DarkPlayer> you need to specify forceaudio if you want to record from a separate device
[01:28] <Ynnaf> it is not a serparated device oO
[01:29] <Ynnaf> evrything is on the same USB coming from a numeric/analogic converter
[01:29] <DarkPlayer> though mplayer does not detect it as a single one
[01:30] <Ynnaf> I even got (dunno why) sound at a time. Even if it was scratchy as hell. Now I just get "no sound"
[01:30] <Ynnaf> "mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:forceaudio tv://" don't seem to do sound
[01:31] <DarkPlayer> try this one:
[01:31] <DarkPlayer> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:brightness=0:contrast=-7:hue=0:saturation=0:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL-BG:input=2:fps=25.000:alsa:adevice=hw.0,2,0:forceaudio:immediatemode=0 tv://MPlayer2
[01:32] <DarkPlayer> i accidentally stripped out the exact alsa subdevice in my previous cmdline
[01:32] <Ynnaf> well
[01:32] <Ynnaf> you can trash all, you know.
[01:32] <Ynnaf> "mplayer -tv tv://" is enought to make it work x)
[01:32] <Ynnaf> without sound
[01:33] <Ynnaf> Herh
[01:33] <Ynnaf> no sound either
[01:34] <Ynnaf> well, maybe it's a lost cause.
[01:34] <DarkPlayer> are you sure that adevice=hw.0,2,0 is the correct subdevice?
[01:34] <Ynnaf> No i'm not
[01:34] <Ynnaf> x)
[01:34] <Ynnaf> How can I list the subdevices ?
[01:35] <DarkPlayer> arecord -l
[01:35] <Ynnaf> (I tried several way, tho I have not that much experience :/)
[01:35] <DarkPlayer> this should list all recording devices
[01:36] <Ynnaf> Ok, i want this one : carte 2: G1 [Terratec G1], périphérique 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
[01:36] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphériques: 0/1
[01:36] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
[01:37] <Ynnaf> is that hw.2,0,0 ?
[01:37] <DarkPlayer> you should then try:
[01:37] <DarkPlayer> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:brightness=0:contrast=-7:hue=0:saturation=0:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL-BG:input=2:fps=25.000:alsa:adevice=hw.2:forceaudio:immediatemode=0 tv://MPlayer2
[01:37] <Ynnaf> Error opening audio: Device or resource busy
[01:38] <DarkPlayer> yeah it seems that another device is currently using this one
[01:38] <DarkPlayer> another program*
[01:38] <Ynnaf> ho
[01:38] <Ynnaf> making "immediatemode=1" it works
[01:38] <Ynnaf> tho
[01:38] <Ynnaf> without sound
[01:39] <Ynnaf> I'll try to see pulseaudio if the sound is set
[01:39] <Ynnaf> no wait
[01:39] <Ynnaf> "no sound" is written before
[01:43] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: you may find the program which is using the sound device with:
[01:43] <DarkPlayer> lsof /dev/snd/*
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa  mem    CHR 116,10          11341 /dev/snd/pcmC2D0c
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa  mem    CHR  116,4            532 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa  mem    CHR  116,3            531 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   24u   CHR  116,6      0t0   534 /dev/snd/controlC0
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   29u   CHR  116,6      0t0   534 /dev/snd/controlC0
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   30u   CHR  116,6      0t0   534 /dev/snd/controlC0
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   31u   CHR  116,6      0t0   534 /dev/snd/controlC0
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   36u   CHR 116,11      0t0 11342 /dev/snd/controlC2
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   37u   CHR  116,3      0t0   531 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   45u   CHR  116,4      0t0   532 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
[01:45] <Ynnaf> pulseaudi 1863   fa   46u   CHR 116,10      0t0 11341 /dev/snd/pcmC2D0c
[01:45] <Ynnaf> Oops
[01:45] <Ynnaf> should have used pastbin
[01:46] <Ynnaf> I don't get it
[01:46] <Ynnaf> the device is /dev/video0
[01:46] <Ynnaf> No one is using it
[01:46] <Ynnaf> seem it can't access the thing for video and sound at the same time
[01:47] <Ynnaf> how odd.
[01:47] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: the audio device is
[01:47] <DarkPlayer> /dev/snd/controlC2
[01:47] <DarkPlayer> /dev/snd/pcmC2D0c
[01:47] <Ynnaf> ho !
[01:47] <Ynnaf> So maybe
[01:47] <Ynnaf> Should I just kill pulseaudio and use alsa for the importation process ?
[01:49] <Ynnaf> when I don't specify alsa it says "Unable to open 'hw.2': No such file or directory
[01:49] <Ynnaf> " when I do "Error opening audio: Device or resource busy
[01:49] <Ynnaf> " :O Let kill pulseaudio, then.
[01:49] <DarkPlayer> pulseaudio will automatically restart
[01:50] <Ynnaf> you are right :/
[01:50] <Ynnaf> In /etc/pulse/client.conf, you can uncomment the line autospawn=yes and
[01:50] <Ynnaf> to "no"
[01:50] <DarkPlayer> echo autospawn=no > ~/.pulse/client.conf
[01:50] <Ynnaf> well o/
[01:50] <Ynnaf> That is faster :D
[01:50] <DarkPlayer> this will only disable it for your current user
[01:50] <DarkPlayer> but you should remove the filter later
[01:51] <DarkPlayer> file*
[01:51] <DarkPlayer> otherwise you will only be able to play sound in one program
[01:52] <Ynnaf> ok
[01:52] <Ynnaf> (ho
[01:52] <Ynnaf> (you sure about that ?)
[01:52] <DarkPlayer> yes
[01:52] <Ynnaf> (I tho pulseaudio was just a mixer for sound and input/output management)
[01:53] <DarkPlayer> pulseaudio does software mixing for sound cards which do not support hardware mixing, which is the majority
[01:53] <Ynnaf> ho
[01:53] <Ynnaf> thanks for the story o/
[01:54] <Ynnaf> the command seem to run but
[01:54] <Ynnaf> I'm not sure if there is actually sound
[01:54] <Ynnaf> Maybe alsa isn't outputing in the right place
[01:54] <DarkPlayer> that is possible
[01:54] <Ynnaf> well
[01:54] <DarkPlayer> take a look at
[01:54] <DarkPlayer> aplay -l
[01:54] <DarkPlayer> for the output devices
[01:55] <Ynnaf> **** Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK ****
[01:55] <Ynnaf> carte 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], périphérique 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
[01:55] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphériques: 0/1
[01:55] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
[01:55] <Ynnaf> carte 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
[01:55] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
[01:55] <Ynnaf>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
[01:55] <Ynnaf> ho
[01:55] <Ynnaf> well ho do I chose ?
[01:55] <Ynnaf> *how
[01:55] <DarkPlayer> are you using hdmi for playback?
[01:57] <Ynnaf> I'm pretty sure not, but I'll check for knowing what is.
[01:57] <DarkPlayer> try:
[01:57] <DarkPlayer> mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:brightness=0:contrast=-7:hue=0:saturation=0:width=720:height=576:device=/dev/video0:norm=PAL-BG:input=2:fps=25.000:alsa:adevice=hw.2:forceaudio:immediatemode=0 -ao alsa:device=hw.0 tv://MPlayer2
[01:59] <DarkPlayer> Ynnaf: may also be possible that your input source is simply muted
[02:00] <DarkPlayer> execute:
[02:00] <DarkPlayer> alsamixer
[02:00] <DarkPlayer> press F6 and select the correct audio device
[02:00] <DarkPlayer> then  press F4 to switch to recording
[02:00] <DarkPlayer> and check the volume of the record devices
[02:00] <Ynnaf> ho
[02:01] <Ynnaf> I though it has no importance what card was selected, because it didn't changed anything to move alsamixer values when pulseaudio was there.
[02:01] <Ynnaf> "this device has no lecture command" it only has in "capture"
[02:02] <DarkPlayer> then change to record first with F4
[02:02] <Ynnaf> yup
[02:03] <DarkPlayer> is the recording device volume not muted and on 100% ?
[02:03] <Ynnaf> It's on 100
[02:03] <Ynnaf> muted ?
[02:03] <Ynnaf> how do I know  ?
[02:04] <DarkPlayer> is there a big "M" ?
[02:04] <Ynnaf> nope
[02:04] <DarkPlayer> okay
[02:04] <DarkPlayer> go to your playback device
[02:04] <DarkPlayer> and switch back to playback
[02:05] <DarkPlayer> check whether there is something muted or volume is set very low
[02:06] <Ynnaf> shesh. It had to work :/
[02:07] <Ynnaf> I'll try to register it, tho, we never know ><
[02:13] <Ynnaf> Mah
[02:13] <Ynnaf> when I got the saved file
[02:14] <Ynnaf> there is no audio channel in the video
[02:14] <Ynnaf> (in fact there is on named "0", and empty
[02:16] <Ynnaf> The problem is here
[02:16] <Ynnaf> v4l2: get audio format: 9
[02:16] <Ynnaf> ==> Found audio stream: 0
[02:16] <Ynnaf> v4l2: get audio samplerate: 48000
[02:16] <Ynnaf> v4l2: get audio samplesize: 2
[02:16] <Ynnaf> v4l2: get audio channels: 2
[02:17] <DarkPlayer> doesn't look like an error to me
[02:17] <DarkPlayer> the id of the stream is simply 0
[02:17] <Ynnaf> the fact it is empty is a problem, right ? x)
[02:17] <Ynnaf> ho
[02:17] <Ynnaf> wait
[02:17] <Ynnaf> his description is empy
[02:17] <Ynnaf> mmmmmh
[02:18] <Ynnaf> well
[02:18] <Ynnaf> Maybe i'll just launch pulse
[02:19] <Ynnaf> gross.
[02:19] <Ynnaf> Nothing
 ==> Found audio stream: 0
[02:19] <Ynnaf> It doesn't mean "I found nothing" ?
[02:19] <DarkPlayer> well since this is quite offtopic here, you may better ask the guys in #mplayer which have more experience with recording from alsa / v4l devices
[02:20] <DarkPlayer> i think it is just stream 0
[02:20] <Ynnaf> I guess so
[02:20] <DarkPlayer> otherwise it wouldn't have a samplerate
[02:21] <Ynnaf> Well thanks a lot. I'm maybe not out of this, but still I'll understand a bit better how it work. Even if 3am is a bit hard for me. It takes sooooo much more time than expected  é_è
[02:55] <saiarcot895> I'm getting a weird error when building flightgear in my PPA. I have flightgear set to depend on libsimgear-dev, which then depends on the most recent versions of libsimgearcore2.99.0 and libsimgearscene2.99.0. However, apt is refusing to install libsimgear-dev because libsimgearscene2.99.0 is not going to be installed. I don't think it's a dependency problem because I have the same three packages installed on my system. Any help?
[17:46] <voldyman> hey guys, can i get all the bugs marked fix released for a specific project from launchpad api using curl ? (i plan to use go lang to write a bot)
[17:52] <dobey> voldyman: searchBugs(status='Fix Released') on the project object; it's in the API docs
[17:53] <voldyman> dobey: but i can't use launchpadlib since the bot will be in go-lang
[17:54] <dobey> voldyman: yes, you will have to follow the API docs to create something in go.
[17:55] <voldyman> dobey: ok, i'll try to cook something up
[20:18] <mwhudson> voldyman: have you seen https://launchpad.net/lpad ?
[20:19] <voldyman> mwhudson: nope, thats exactly what i needed. thanks a lot.
[20:19] <dobey> oh yeah. there is that. i forgot gustavo wrote a thing for go already
[20:42] <dch> hey, I’m trying to push my first bzr (branch? project?) to lp. And I’m completely lost, what does `No such product series` actually mean?
[20:44] <dobey> where are you trying to push to?
[20:47] <dch> I’m sure I need to set up some branch or sth remotely first.
[20:48] <dobey> you can just push any bzr branch to lp:~username/+junk/branchname
[20:48] <dch> dobey: some details first. end goal is a daily build off the master branch of couchdb, which is in git.
[20:49] <dch> I’ve set up a mirror which pulls git -> bzr (yay) https://code.launchpad.net/~couchdb/couchdb/master
[20:49] <dobey> couchdb git probably can't be imported to launchpad currently
[20:49] <dch> dobey:  it does work :-)
[20:49] <dch> my next task is to push the package branch that contains only the /debian/ bits needed.
[20:50] <dch> I’ve tried a bunch of variations on `bzr push lp: couchdb/couchdb/packaging` with that above error.
[20:50] <dobey> then push it to lp:~couchdb/couchdb/packaging-dailies
[20:50] <dobey> if you want ~couchdb to owne it
[20:51] <dch> dobey: the idea I had was to separate out changes required for the packaging, from the original source. The last patches I had to review were thousands of lines of a single diff, if there’s a better way to achieve keeping upstream source & .deb packaging info separate please tell me.
[20:51] <dch> dobey: hmm them I got myself confused.
[20:51] <dch> https://code.launchpad.net/couchdb/ seems not to have any branches.
[20:52] <dobey> persons and teams begin with  tildes
[20:52] <dobey> dch: i see 4
[20:53] <dobey> and you didn't need to set up a different master
[20:53] <dobey> oh, the existing import was from svn.apache.org
[20:54] <dch> dobey: I see 4 branches but they’re not under “couchdb” they are elsewhere. I wanted to make sure we have one that is owned/managed by the same group, if that makes sense.
[20:54] <dch> dobey: yup, thats the reason for a new one.
[20:54] <dobey> dch: yes they are under couchdb. you're confusing the  project name with the team name
[20:54] <dch> ok, so I’ll try pushing to ~couchdb, get this working as you suggested dobey - tyvm!
[20:55] <dch> I have a bzr-builder working partially already so I’m feeling pretty chirpy atm :D
[20:56] <dch> final question, is it possible to get lp to run a standard `bootstrap && ./configure —stuff && make … ` or is that not the right way to do things?
[20:57] <dch> I’m a bit lost how I should go from git (or a release tarball) to a nice tidy package.
[20:57] <dobey> how something is built in a debian package, is defined by debian/rules
[20:58] <dobey> dch: look at the existing couchdb packaging data that's in ubuntu, and adapt that to work for git, where needed
[21:00] <dch> dobey: ok, I’ve been tidying stuff up in there but it doesn’t all fit together mentally for me yet. Now I have the branch pushed I can try testing stuff and maybe enlightenment will strike.
[21:00] <dch> thanks for your help, I have the branch pushed so life should be easier now!
[21:01] <dobey> please don't do test builds of couchdb live on launchpad. it will eat up the resources pretty badly
[21:06] <dch> dobey: I’m doing them on a personal server, with bzr-builder. What actually triggers the build then?
[21:07] <dobey> get it bilding locally first with bzr dailydeb and pbuilder or sbuild.
[21:07] <dch> in lp, I mean.
[21:07] <dobey> oh, i thought you were setting up an lp recipe for daily bilds
[21:07] <dobey> builds
[21:11] <dch> dobey: that’s the end goal, yup. But first I want to have the git source (done), a separate /debian/ patches repo (under way) so that future changes are not a weekend reading nightmare.