[06:06] morning superfly and others [06:09] hi Kilos [10:22] hi psychicist [10:23] hi Kilos [12:17] whow slow morning [12:17] hi Kilos, psy [12:17] oh he's not around [12:42] hello [12:44] hi superfly, how did the potjie turn out? [12:51] hello Kilos [12:51] hi charl [13:04] hi kbmonkey [13:11] kbmonkey: it was pretty awesome, if I may say so myself [13:50] hi charl kbmonkey [13:51] hi Kilos [17:21] oh my, we getting min again [17:22] Maaz: forecast pretoria [17:22] Kilos: Saturday: Clear. High: 30° C., Saturday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Sunday: Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Sunday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Monday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Monday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Tuesday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Tuesday Night: Chance of a [17:22] Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 31° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. … [18:29] wbb [18:38] wb Kilos [18:38] ohi inetpro ty [18:39] just upgraded my kde and installed that oracle java thingie [18:39] where is the rain man [18:39] ai! [18:39] what ai! [18:39] that java thingy is a waste [18:40] i need it to open that antenna design tool [18:40] how do you open it [18:40] stupid programmers that force you to install that java [18:42] inetpro, can you open that button [18:42] http://fermi.la.asu.edu/ccli/applets/yagi/yagi.html [18:42] near the top on the left [18:42] probably not without installing java [18:42] oh thats fine then [18:43] and the relevant plugin [18:43] thought you maybe had a workaround [18:43] technology has gone forward in leaps and bounds [18:44] designing and building antenna used to be major work now that tool does it for you [18:44] not the building part though [18:53] Kilos: the way they do it on that website is outdated [18:54] wow is there an even better way [18:54] java on the browser is full of holes [18:54] oh the java [18:54] i just want to build a yagi man [18:55] serious design work for a 20 element yagi [18:55] that page was last modified on Wed 08 Aug 2007 23:02:55 SAST [18:55] not saying it can't work [18:56] and at the bottom of the page it even says July 1, 2000 [18:56] normally when things dont get modified or improved then that is a working goodie [19:00] just need to get some insulating material to mount all the elements on the aluminium shaft then hopefully i can use some of the 10g wifi data you get with 8ta bundles [19:01] all 21 need to be exactly the same size though, thats the difficult part [19:09] Kilos: you really want this to catch the free telkom wifi? [19:09] yeah [19:09] ai! [19:09] what? [19:10] I don't think you'll even detect that signal [19:10] im getting like you [19:10] 2+1 isnt enough anymore for 2 months [19:10] unless there's a wifi tower very close to your house, but I doubt [19:11] i just dunno how far the yagis can see but it boosts signal in and out not like with an amp [19:11] 10gb is not even enough for me [19:11] there is one between 6 and 7 ks from here [19:12] i said im getting [19:12] you just ahead [19:12] have you tried connecting with your device close to the tower? [19:13] i got a wifi adapter card for the pc [19:14] so cant go look. need to work from here and maybe use aircrack to find if the yagi will reach' [19:15] Kilos: what about that other device of yours? [19:16] oh the router? [19:16] that motorola or what was that? [19:16] tablet [19:16] that gives lekker wifi here in the house [19:16] oh thats sisters man [19:16] i dont like android stuff [19:16] yes but you can use it to test man [19:17] it can see the next door neighbours wifi [19:17] and my pc and router [19:17] go to a known Telkom FreeWifi Location and test [19:17] then move around and see how far you can receive the signal [19:17] no man i cant play with her stuffs. she scared i break it [19:18] I bet you it will not be much further than a 100m if that at all [19:18] ya thats with the tablet [19:18] do you know the power of a yagi [19:18] dont you have one for your mobile? [19:19] the external antenna [19:19] it just improves the existing signal by 10db if you are lucky [19:19] 17db [19:19] if there is no signal to boost then you are out of luck [19:19] 20 element is a major yagi [19:20] ja ja [19:20] proove it to me first [19:20] if i can get line of site ill get the signal im sure [19:20] haha [19:20] can even build a 40 element [19:20] Kilos: we are talking about wifi [19:20] yes [19:21] and I bet you they have not implemented long range wifi [19:21] same principle with antenna [19:21] wifi goes 20m [19:21] even got a design for a helical that can see satelites [19:21] no man [19:22] thats with the built in dipole antenna [19:22] antennas are lekker to play with [19:23] mobile signal is at 950m or so and wifi at 2.4gig [19:57] night all. sleep tight