 ok, thank you I'll try that later
[00:01] <_dan_> ok, well i am going to clone the OS drive onto a secondary drive first... that will probably be simple enough for someone on the other end to recover if need be
 shell I also try  to update the driver , the installed version is 304
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> arpad2: yes you should prob be on the latest possible with that card
[00:02] <arpad2> ok
[00:20] <arpad2> a7rpad
[00:21] <arpad2> arpad
[00:21] <hassen> does anyone know a screen-capture driver for linux?so that when you access your webcams' list you also see a virtual webcam showing your screen/desktop
[00:22] <arpad2> sudo apt-get install nvidia--updates nvidia-settings--updates
[00:22] <arpad2> y
[00:23] <hassen> what??
[00:23] <bekks> arpad2: - instead of --
[00:24] <zykotick9> bekks: doesn't seem nvidia-updates is an actual package...  arpad2
[00:24] <arpad2> sudo nano /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[00:26] <PatrickDickey> bekks: zykotick9 and arpad2, bekks put two dashes -- in between nvidia and updates, and also between settings and updates. Try the command with one dash - instead.
[00:27] <zykotick9> !info nvidia-updates
[00:28] <human_like> Does anyone have a link on how to connect to undernet using pidgin?
[00:29] <arpad2> --updates-updatesy
[00:29] <bekks> human_like: It works the same as connecting to other IRC networks.
[00:29] <arpad2> optirun nvidia-settings
[00:30] <wolfspy> human_like: http://blog.mnemotechnics.org/how-to-use-irc-pidgin-tutorial-3538.html
[00:30] <human_like> thank you
[00:30] <arpad2> cat /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf
[00:31] <arpad2> a7rpad
[00:35] <mOrO^> I installed Pear OS 8, and my wifi doesnt show up. Pear is a ubuntu deriative.
[00:35] <Absolute0> The default fonts in chromium-browser are hurting my eyes. Is there any easy on the eyes font that looks like the ones on windows?
[00:35] <Ynnaf> Hey, for adding this PPA https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers" good or what ? I'm really not familiar with it :(
[00:36] <zykotick9> !mint | Ynnaf
[00:37] <Balzy> reboot
[00:38] <Balzy> wrong window gh
[00:41] <jmgk> hi all
[00:41] <Mongo44> Should I update to 13?
[00:41] <bekks> Mongo44: there are two 13.x versions - which Ubuntu are you on right now?
[00:42] <Mongo44> bekks:12.04
[00:42] <wolfspy> does anyone use i3 window manager here?
[00:42] <bekks> Mongo44: and you want to update why?
[00:43] <Mongo44> Well I don't know if I want to.
[00:44] <bekks> Mongo44: Then just wait until April and update to 14.04
[00:44] <wolfspy> is there an i3 irc room?
[00:45] <Mongo44> bekks: What OS are you using?
[00:45] <bekks> Mongo44: Ubuntu, Solaris, Windows - depends on my requirements.
[00:46] <Mongo44> Is Solaris linux?
[00:46] <bekks> Mongo44: No, it is a Unix.
[00:48] <romano> ciao
[00:48] <romano> !list
[00:49] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:59] <Guest58267> I'm having a lot of trouble getting Xubuntu to load from a usb on my UEFI Gateway LT41p netbook
[00:59] <Guest58267> I've read a ton of materials and nothing seemed to have worked.  Any way to get my system to boot from USB?
[01:05] <pozz> hi guys, does anyone know how to start an application via terminal and then beable to close the terminal after while the application is still running?
[01:06] <bekks> pozz: Either use nohup or disown
[01:06] <pozz> Basically I want to dissociate the application and terminal.
[01:06] <zykotick9> pozz: check out tmux or screen
[01:07] <kepka> pozz: use "bg"
[01:07] <bekks> kepka: Closing the terminal will kill the background process too
[01:07] <pozz> nohup or disown eh... for example, gksudo gedit file.ext disown?
[01:07] <pozz> how does bg work?
[01:07] <pozz> screen does not work, the application fails to load with that command
[01:08] <pozz> what is tmux?
[01:08] <zykotick9> pozz: ignore it, if this is GUI - i have no idea
[01:08] <pozz> yeah, its a gui
[01:08] <amagee> since upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 i've been unable to play dvds. vlc says: ""Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.". I've done the restricted formats stuff mentioned here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs but it hasn't seemed to make any difference. Ideas?
[01:08] <kepka> ok, with GUI, just run it as "gui-app &"
[01:09] <kepka> pozz: for the bg, read http://pwet.fr/man/linux/commandes/posix/bg
[01:10] <pozz> kepka, for example: "gksudo gedit file.ext gui-app &"?
[01:10] <kepka> pozz: yep
[01:10] <pozz> k will try that
[01:11] <bekks> pozz: gksudo gedit file.ext &
[01:11] <kepka> pozz: or for example "firefox &", then you can close the terminal and off you go.
[01:11] <pozz> gui-app & fails to work
[01:11] <pozz> oh, I see what you are saying now
[01:11] <pozz> now that does not work, when I close the terminal the application will also close
[01:12] <kepka> pozz: have you tried?
[01:12] <bekks> kepka: Thats why he says it.
[01:12] <pozz> yes, I have tried
[01:13] <kepka> pozz: I've got ubuntu here, KDE.   just tried it myself.  works for me.
[01:14] <pozz> Not sure what to say, it does not work
[01:15] <kepka> what's the app?
[01:15] <bekks> kepka: gedit.
[01:15] <bekks> kepka: The command in question is: gksudo gedit file.ext &
[01:16] <pozz> correct
[01:18] <kepka> ok, try this:     sudo '/usr/bin/gedit' file.ext &
[01:19] <bekks> Dont use sudo on graphical applications.
[01:19] <bekks> Use gksudo instead.
[01:19] <kepka> sure, why not.
[01:19] <sam113101> kepka: why not?
[01:19] <sam113101> oops
[01:19] <sam113101> bekks: why not?
[01:20] <zykotick9> !gksudo
[01:20] <bekks> Because sudo isnot designed to work correctly using graphical applications.
[01:20] <pozz> kapka, did not work either
[01:20] <PatrickDickey> kepka:  because occasionally sudo doesn't play nice with Gnome. For Gnome, you want to use gksudo, and for KDE, I believe it's ksudo. sudo is mainly for command line only.
[01:20] <zykotick9> pozz: fyi, using sudo with gui apps, can break your user account...
[01:20] <_root_> any take on this http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?11,245107
[01:22] <kepka> ok, for all non-english speakers.  "why not." without the question mark implies an agreement, not a question :-0
[01:22] <pozz> zykotick9, didn't know. thanks for letting me know, sounds scary
[01:22] <pozz> lol
[01:23] <kepka> pozz:  I just ran this command: gksudo '/usr/bin/gedit' /etc/hosts &
[01:23] <kepka> and it worked for me
[01:23] <kepka> try it
[01:23] <pozz> I do. it opens... then I close the terminal and gedit closes as well
[01:23] <sam113101> lol, reminds me that I ran into problems using nautilus with sudo
[01:24] <sam113101> what's the ICEauthority file?
[01:24] <pozz> i did* i mean
[01:24] <kepka> dude, totally wierd.  It stays open here, even if I close the terminal
[01:24] <pozz> I wish mine would do that
[01:24] <sam113101> what does?
[01:24] <zykotick9> pozz: can't you use alt+f2 or something?
[01:24] <kepka> pozz: you're not missing the & at the end, right?
[01:25] <pozz> I am trying to create a shortcut for an application to the launcher
[01:25] <YaMoonSun> How to I end a process, or pause it? I've been running rarcrack overnight, and now I want to use my PC but the CPU is being used excessively
[01:25] <zykotick9> pozz: then a terminal shouldn't be involved???
[01:25] <pozz> kepka, I have '&' at the end. one of the first things I tryed by myself...
[01:26] <kepka> then I am fresh out of ideas.  Anyone else?
[01:26] <sam113101> pozz: what are you trying to do?
[01:27] <pozz> zykotick9, kind of a weird application that after being installed, does not show up in the typical place applications install at. As a result, I am creating a .desktop file in the usr/share/applications folder
[01:27] <sam113101> pozz: if you want to run something from the terminal and not have it exit when you exit the terminal, use &!
[01:27] <sam113101> for example, gedit &!
[01:27] <pozz> sam113101, that does not work
[01:27] <sam113101> &| works as well
[01:28] <pozz> it lets me enter a new line in, but if I close the terminal the application also closes
[01:28] <zykotick9> sam113101: & should NOT be required in a .desktop file...
[01:28] <kepka> so,
[01:28] <pozz> wait... are you saying this: "&" or this "&!"?
[01:28] <sam113101> pozz: sorry, seems to be a zsh-only feature
[01:28] <bekks> pozz: &
[01:29] <zykotick9> bekks: & should NOT be required in a .desktop file...
[01:29] <pozz> okay, "&" does not work, have not tryed "&!" before
[01:29] <bekks> zykotick9: I know, yes.
[01:29] <bekks> pozz: &! is invalid.
[01:29] <sam113101> pozz: &! only works in zsh, sorry, but you can still use disown in bash
[01:30] <sam113101> gedit &
[01:30] <sam113101> disown %jobnumber
[01:30] <sam113101> or
[01:30] <sam113101> disown pid
[01:30] <pozz> i have two computers with ubuntu 12.04 where "&" just lets me type another line in, but the terminal is still associated with the application.
[01:30]  * YaMoonSun wonders if his question was over-looked.
[01:31] <bekks> pozz: Thats the expected behaviour, since & puts a process into the background, not disowning it.
[01:31] <pozz> disown pid? ... how do I auto put the PID in?
[01:31] <fede__> yes
[01:31] <bekks> pozz: pidof
[01:31] <sam113101> pozz: when you run "gedit &" it gives you the job number and pid
[01:31] <sam113101> "[1] 3864
[01:31] <sam113101> "
[01:31] <sam113101> for example
[01:31] <FloodBot1> sam113101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <sam113101> 1 being the job number and 3864 the pid
[01:31] <nf7> Does anyone know how to stop the Wireless card notification light on my laptop from going crazy all the time? All the solutions online seem to be for different cards.
[01:31] <pozz> humm, I see
[01:32] <jacob_> Hello, I updated to 12.10 some time ago but now my usb tablet no longer, is there more software I need?
[01:32] <pozz> so would this work: disown pidof gedit
[01:32] <pozz> ?
[01:32] <jacob_> *is no longer working properly.
[01:32] <sam113101> disown $(pidof gedit)
[01:33] <sam113101> what are you trying to do, anyway?
[01:33] <jacob_> me?
[01:33] <sam113101> you shouldn't need to do that very often, use a multiplexer if you do
[01:33] <pozz> root@Purr:/usr/share/applications# disown $(pidof gedit)          Result:      bash: disown: current: no such job
[01:34] <zykotick9> pozz: why are you root?
[01:34] <sam113101> did you run "gedit &" before? lol
[01:34] <fede__> f
[01:34] <pozz> I like being root
[01:34] <pozz> lol yes sam113101, I did
[01:35] <jacob_> Is this an ubuntu help room?
[01:35] <pozz> I am working in the usr/share/application folder, I need to be root there for some reason
[01:35] <sam113101> jacob_: it is
[01:35] <mOrO^> I have an inspiron laptop and my wireless wont work?
[01:36] <sam113101> YaMoonSun: did you ask a question?
[01:36] <zykotick9> sam113101: rarcrack realated or something... (re YaMoonSun)
[01:37] <YaMoonSun> Indeed, thanks for getting back to me.
[01:37] <sam113101> !wireless | mOrO^
[01:37] <jacob_> Yeah thanks, my usb tablet stopped working properly after the 12.10 update.
[01:37] <mOrO^> ubottu, thanks
[01:37] <nf7> Does anyone know how to fix a constantly blinking wifi light? None of the solutions I've found so far work for me.
[01:37] <mOrO^> !wireless
[01:38] <sam113101> YaMoonSun: you should ask it again
[01:38]  * PatrickDickey thinks pozz might want to consider Fedora then... They use root too. ;-)
[01:39] <jacob_> The pressure sensitivity is no longer there, and I no longer see the option for it, is there an update I need?
[01:39] <fede_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[01:39] <pozz> Did PatrickDickey just make fun of me? :'-(
[01:40] <fede_>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[01:40] <PatrickDickey> pozz, just a little. It was meant in good fun though. I use root occasionally too. Although I typically use sudo and nano instead of gedit.
[01:41] <qwerasd205> gawd
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> jacob_: Have you looked into the Ubuntu Touch information? It sounds more like what you want on your tablet, IMHO.
[01:41] <PatrickDickey> !touch > jacob_
[01:42] <jacob_> No I'm using a basic laptop, with a usb tablet and pen.
[01:43] <pozz> It is okay, PatrickDickey, I understand :P
[01:43] <jacob_> thanks robot
[01:43] <PatrickDickey> Ahhhh ok.
[01:43] <amagee> since upgrading to ubuntu 13.10 i've been unable to play dvds. vlc says: ""Your input can't be opened: VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvd:///dev/dvd'. Check the log for details.". I've done the restricted formats stuff mentioned here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs but it hasn't seemed to make any difference. Ideas?
[01:45] <PatrickDickey> amagee: You might have to create a symbolic link from /dev/dvd to whatever your actual dvd drive is.
[01:45] <amagee> PatrickDickey: srsly? i've never had to do that before
[01:46] <PatrickDickey> I had to set it up on my mythbuntu box.
[01:46] <Beldar> amagee, how are you linking the dvd to vlc?
[01:46] <amagee> bizarre
[01:46] <amagee> Beldar: what do you mean "linking the dvd to vlc"? i just open vlc and tell it to play the dvd
[01:47] <Beldar> amagee, Hmm try right clicking the dvd and make the open with vlc.
[01:47] <PatrickDickey> In my case, dvd was actually dvd1. So I had to create a symbolic link to it.
[01:48] <Fistro-> hola
[01:48] <Fistro-> estoy buscando a un usuario argentino
[01:48] <constl> I have a Linux general question about user management. Is this the right channel ?
[01:49] <pero> my vlc all-of-a-sudden doesn't play back any video (the sound is still there) any idea where i could have goofed it up?
[01:49] <PatrickDickey> !es | Fistro Hola Fistro.
[01:49] <oaulakh> how to install itunes in ubuntu?
[01:49] <Fistro-> !es
[01:49] <Beldar> constl, ubuntu related?
[01:49] <Fistro-> !es nabos
[01:49] <amagee> oh wow, it was actually /dev/cdrom
[01:49] <Fistro-> hi PatrickDickey
[01:50] <constl> Beldar: Im using ubuntu, dont think it is directly related.
[01:50] <PatrickDickey> oaulakh: Wine is probably your best bet.
[01:50] <Beldar> constl, Linux would be ##linux or a distros channel
[01:50]  * PatrickDickey is patiently waiting for Toshiba Tech support to call me back.... :S Not so patiently anymore though.
[01:52] <PatrickDickey> amagee: So it opens and plays if you select CDROM from their menu?
[01:52] <amagee> PatrickDickey: yep
[01:52] <oaulakh> but i installed wine but still not working
[01:52] <PatrickDickey> http://blog.christosoft.de/2012/08/mythtv-dvd-playback/ Might help you to cheat the system then. Instead of dvd1 in his command, change it to cdrom. Then vlc should work with "DVD".
[01:52] <amagee> i guess they were bored with it just working every version for 8 years and decided to make a change just to make sure people are paying attention :P
[01:53] <oaulakh> i can install itunes perfectly on wine
[01:53] <oaulakh> but when i run that shit
[01:53] <oaulakh> it shows me lot of errors
[01:53] <FloodBot1> oaulakh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <Fistro-> i'll ask a question
[01:54] <oaulakh> that is not installed blah blah blah...... :)
[01:54] <Fistro-> I have a corrupted partition xfs file system on hard disk
[01:54] <PatrickDickey> oaulakh: Try installing PlayOnLinux first.
[01:54] <Fistro-> what can i do to recover data?
[01:55] <Fistro-> !en hola panda de maricones
[01:56] <oaulakh> i install playonlinux also
[01:56] <notobvious> !why
[01:56] <oaulakh> but it shows me some curl error and did'nt start
[01:57] <PatrickDickey> oaulakh: Which version of iTunes did you install?
[01:57] <wolfspy> http://www.playonlinux.com/en/issue-2823.html this?
[01:59] <wolfspy> oaulakh: try this: sudo apt-get install curl p7zip-full p7zip-rar
[02:00] <oaulakh> 11.1.3
[02:01] <PatrickDickey> oaulakh: You might need to add winbind to the command that wolfspy gave you (per the webpage that he linked to earlier).
[02:01] <wolfspy> well
[02:01] <wolfspy> guess he gave up
[02:01] <wolfspy> or it worked
[02:03]  * PatrickDickey wonders if a tech support person was supposed to call you back in ten minutes, how long should you wait before calling them back.... :S
[02:03] <grache28> how do you update ubuntu?
[02:03] <grache28> apt-get update (or is that just for repos?)
[02:03] <zykotick9> grache28: "apt-get update" followed by "apt-get upgrade" OR "apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:04] <PatrickDickey> grache28: apt-get dist-update gets the latest information from the repositories. apt-get dist-upgrade is what you use to actually install the updates.
[02:04] <grache28> thanks :)
[02:05] <grache28> PatrickDickey: tried ubuntu cause of the problems in fedora, thought it might be the kernel that came with the fedora install image - same problem on ubuntu, so removed a card
[02:05] <grache28> PatrickDickey: with 1 card it works, hopefully I can plug in the second and will both work after install (crossing fingers). I know nothing about ubuntu, i'm used to yum :)
[02:13] <jmgk> hi all
[02:17] <wolfspy> hi
[02:20] <Megabyte> Hi.
[02:22] <Megabyte> Anyone around?
[02:22] <Diamondcite> Might not be active
[02:22] <wolfspy> nope
[02:22] <Diamondcite> But if you have a question ask and someone might answer.
[02:22] <wolfspy> !patience | Megabyte
[02:23] <Diamondcite> If you have tried google and don't have an answer, try "Li*** suc** because, <problem here>" but that might get you unwanted answers =P
[02:23] <wolfspy> lol
[02:24] <Megabyte> wolfspy, ubottu I was using the phatic resource of a natural language.
[02:24] <Megabyte> I just noticed that I addressed a bot. Again. But let's brush it off.
[02:24] <wolfspy> cool
[02:24] <Diamondcite> There are lots of ones around, lots of zeros too.
[02:24] <awesomess3> If I upgraded 10.04 to 13.10, would I be impressed?
[02:24] <Megabyte> Anyway
[02:25] <Megabyte> I have installed safe-rm
[02:25] <Megabyte> But... it does not work.
[02:25] <wolfspy> awesomess3: nope
[02:25] <Diamondcite> awesomess3: Mildly impressive, but good job on the update.
[02:25] <wolfspy> Megabyte: write it in one line
[02:25] <Megabyte> wolfspy, Impossible...
[02:25] <wolfspy> Megabyte: your question for us, not the commands
[02:25] <Diamondcite> awesomess3: Next, try Ubuntu 8.10 to 13.10 in one reboot =P
[02:26] <awesomess3> Diamondcite, I remember just trying to update my current 10.04 and it couldn't even reboot.
[02:26] <awesomess3> If I'm going to do a 13.10, it's gonna be clean.
[02:26] <Diamondcite> Things break, learning how to fix them is part of the learning.
[02:27] <awesomess3> The thing I learned was: "if it's not broken, don't fix it."
[02:27] <Diamondcite> lol, sounds like me.
[02:27] <Diamondcite> And it hurts so bad when I update ^_^
[02:27] <amagee> 13.04 - 13.10 was one of the first ubuntu upgrades i've done that didn't massively break things
[02:27] <Megabyte> I got safe-rm to prevent accidental deletion of content after a scary accident, but it doesn't seem to work. I've tested it creating a folder on my hard drive, and using rm (in the driver that should be protected) successfully deletes it. I've tried to add the line both locally, at .safe-rm, and globally. Can anyone tell me what is going on? "The full path is: /media/x/Dados pessoais (Seagate)/*". Thank you in advance!
[02:29] <Megabyte> I have also tried setting up an alias to rm: "alias rm='safe-rm'," to no avail.
[02:29] <YaMoonSun> If I start a process via terminal, and I close the terminal, how do I close the process? It's seemingly in the background using 100% of my cpu's resources.
[02:29] <Megabyte> YaMoon, killall -9 process_name [kills *all the processes with the same name.]
[02:30] <Guest10418> hi
[02:30] <jmgk> hey Guest10418
[02:30] <wolfspy> hi
[02:31] <Diamondcite> YaMoonSun: If the command didn't work, use something like 'top
[02:31] <Megabyte> wolfspy, If you don't know the answer, setting my normal user account to access the removable device I have as read-only would be nice, too.
[02:31] <Diamondcite> ' to find the PID, and do a kill -9 PIDHERE
[02:32] <YaMoonSun> It seeming worked, but I looked through killall --help and there's no -9.
[02:32] <Megabyte> YaMoonSun, It means "highest priority"
[02:32] <YaMoonSun> Works without it too? Only as sudo though?
[02:32] <YaMoonSun> Oh, I see I see.
[02:32] <Diamondcite> YaMoonSun: Oh, the -9 is actually a short form for sending SIGKILL to the process
[02:33] <zykotick9> Megabyte: fyi, suggesting use -9 before a regular kill, is a bad suggestion...
[02:33] <Megabyte> zykotick9, Well, he did want to kill the process...
[02:33] <Megabyte> and not using it might postpone the killing for god knows how long
[02:33] <Diamondcite> But a normal kill would try to SIGINT first, which lets is close properly, Instead of putting a brick wall infront of it
[02:33] <Megabyte> Killing a process with kill is a bad idea anyway, so
[02:33] <axizor> getting a new APU - any problems with amd 13.4 drivers on 12.04?
[02:34] <zykotick9> Diamondcite: +1
[02:34] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, I guess you could help me, couldn't you?
[02:34] <jmgk> nope axizor
[02:34] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: I haven't even tried safe-rm before,
[02:34] <YaMoonSun> It managed to work both ways, with or without the minus -9, thanks a bunch.
[02:35] <axizor> do I have to do a command line install or does it show up in settings and do auto
[02:35] <Megabyte> YaMoonSun, You're welcome. :)
[02:35] <YaMoonSun> I had three brute force processes running, was quite ridiculous
[02:35] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, How can I set up my hard drive (external usb) to mount so it's read-only for me, as a regular user, and read-write to root?
[02:36] <Megabyte> YaMoonSun, Was it a decryption program?
[02:36] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: I would have to investigate how ubuntu mounts removeable media.
[02:36] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, Isn't there an universal, text-based solution?
[02:37] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: Hrm.. sudo chown root:root /media/removeableitem && sudo chmod 775 /media/removeableitem
[02:37] <PatrickDickey> grache28: Sorry, my computer went wacky for a bit there. Are the cards the same?
[02:37] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: the problem is that the command there is one time..
[02:38] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, I didn't get your last sentence
[02:39] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: I made many assumptions, assuming you want to do it only once and have it back to normal behaviour next time?
[02:39] <axizor> just curious - how much more demanding is unity over xcfe
[02:39] <axizor> xfce*
[02:39] <axizor> memory wise
[02:40] <Diamondcite> No idea, but xfce is a VERY light interface
[02:40] <axizor> I'm running a xfce lubuntu box right now on some really limited hw and I can tell it does better than unity
[02:40] <Diamondcite> xfce could run on systems with only 128MB of ram.. I doubt unity can ^_^
[02:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Diamondcite: Just sayin', that would be painful. Why not LXDE? Especially with Lubuntu's enhancements for older machines with 13.10
[02:42] <axizor> I have a Athlon 2 box with only a gig of ram and even with xcfe on lubuntu 13.10 and it's slooow
[02:43] <axizor> that's only running a samba server, utorrent server, and dlna server
[02:43]  * PatrickDickey is running lubuntu on a new machine right now.
[02:43] <Diamondcite> SonikkuAmerica: In extreme lack of resources, lxde, xfce, fluxbox are pretty much all light weight
[02:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Diamondcite: Although I wouldn't depend on XFCE in a 128 MB situation, for the record
[02:44] <axizor> I wouldn't either ^
[02:44] <axizor> if you're only running on 128mb you shouldn't be running gui at all
[02:45] <SonikkuAmerica> axizor: That, of course, is only a matter of opinion.
[02:45] <axizor> of course
[02:46] <SonikkuAmerica> axizor: After all, there are things like JWM, Fluxbox, etc. - even e17 can run on that much
[02:46] <ab`> my amd radeon card is enabled again when i wake my system from hibernation. i want it always disabled. how do i accomplish this? should i rip it out from my laptop?
[02:47] <axizor> I don't know, if you're doing multi tasking and running a lot of background processes, 128mb won't be fun
[02:48] <SonikkuAmerica> axizor: True... but I haven't had much of an issue with that... I have 8 GB now, but I worked with 256 MB and later 1 GB
[02:48] <axizor> I'm having a hard time just on a recycled PC with 1
[02:48] <axizor> I'll be happy when my cheap little amd APU build and 8gb of ram comes in
[02:48] <axizor> Throw ina. Coupl
[02:49] <axizor> couple of 4tbs in raid 1 and I'll be set
[02:50] <axizor> I'm way behind the game, but streaming 1080p mvk to my ps3 with no lag is awesome
[02:50] <axizor> Don't know why I didn't dive into media streaming earlier
[02:51] <Diamondcite> 1080p mkv? Using a PS3 media server?
[02:51] <Diamondcite> (Or Universal Media server)
[02:51] <PatrickDickey> ab`: What other graphics card do you have?
[02:51] <axizor> Yes Diamondcite
[02:52] <Diamondcite> axizor: Always thought that it needs quite a bit of power from the transcoding system
[02:52] <axizor> I did too - my little dual core Athlon and gig of ram seems to do the job
[02:53] <ab`> PatrickDickey: intel hd 3000, its more than enough for me since i don't do any graphic intensive works
[02:53] <Diamondcite> But what REALLY eats at the CPU is setting a bandwidth limit
[02:53] <Diamondcite> axizor: Just transcoding itself to PS3 compatible doesn't hurt so bad.
[02:54] <PatrickDickey> ab`: You should be able to disable one of them in BIOS. I'm guessing one came with the laptop, and one is an addon.
[02:54] <axizor> have no idea what it's at, I just starred it, pointed it to my share folder, and left
[02:55] <Diamondcite> axizor: Unlimited by default, which means on very action heavy scenes, it'll skip
[02:55] <axizor> started* ...irc on ipad isn't fun :/
[02:55] <Megabyte> All right.
[02:55] <Megabyte> How do I allow someone to write and read from a device, but not delete files?
[02:55] <Megabyte> (just create, not delete)
[02:55] <axizor> Diamondcite: haven't had any skipping yet
[02:56] <PatrickDickey> !permissions | Megabyte
[02:56] <Diamondcite> Megabyte: How about taking away execute permission from "other" for the rm command?
[02:56] <ab`> PatrickDickey: yeah, hd 3000 is integrated and radeon is discrete. okay, i am gonna fiddle with the BIOS now, see if something is there.
[02:57] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, but in that case wouldn't I be in the "group" of "other" of the rm command?
[02:57] <Megabyte> Diamondcite, and this would also apply system-wide
[02:57] <Megabyte> I just want to protect my external hdd
[02:58] <PatrickDickey> Megabyte: From the page I linked to: "write restricts or allows creating new files or deleting files in the directory. (Caution: write access for a directory allows deleting of files in the directory even if the user does not have write permissions for the file!)"
[02:59] <wolfspy> lol, I crashed a terminator window by tragging text from firefox over it
[02:59] <Megabyte> PatrickDickey, I want to create, but not delete
[02:59] <amagee> Megabyte: you mean you want other people to have physical access to your external hdd but not be able to delete files from it?
[03:00] <Megabyte> amagee, I'm the only person here, so that would mean just me
[03:00] <Megabyte> but yeah
[03:00] <Megabyte> that's pretty much it
[03:00] <amagee> Megabyte: oh ok, so you're just using it connected to one computer?
[03:00] <Megabyte> amagee, yes
[03:00] <PatrickDickey> Megabyte: I'm confused. If you only have one user on the computer, then this is sort of a moot point.
[03:01] <Megabyte> PatrickDickey, No, it isn't. I almost wiped out my own files by accident because I removed a symbolic link with rm -rf.
[03:01] <Megabyte> PatrickDickey, there's too much content in my drive, I had time to stop this
[03:02] <Megabyte> PatrickDickey, that's against this kind of deletion I want protection
[03:02] <wolfspy> hi badass
[03:02] <badass> hi
[03:03] <amagee> Megabyte: yeah i'm not sure exactly, maybe look at this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/869536/linux-directory-permissions-read-write-but-not-delete
[03:03] <Megabyte> I'll take a look, thanks
[03:03] <amagee> my guess is you won't get a really practical solution though
[03:03] <amagee> since even if you could turn off delete you could still overwrite a file with nothing and lose the content anyway
[03:04] <ab`> PatrickDickey: sadly, there is no such option in BIOS
[03:04] <saiarcot895> Megabyte: I don't think you have to use -f to remove a symbolic link, do you? (Same applies for the -r switch, unless you are including other directories as well)
[03:04] <amagee> and then you could try turning off write completely but then you'll have to change the settings every time you do want to write/update something on the drive and you'll get annoyed or forget anyway :P
[03:04] <Megabyte> saiarcot895, It was out of habit, and I want to stop it
[03:04] <Megabyte> (Create files, once written, they are read only, but CAN be deleted by owner, but not others.)
[03:04] <Megabyte> That's moot too
[03:05] <Megabyte> because if I'm not the owner of a file, I cannot modify it
[03:05] <PatrickDickey> ab`: Is the Radeon a removable card? You said Discrete, which doesn't tell me that. If it is removable, then I'd pull it out. But if you're going to have to rip the entire laptop apart, I'm not sure if the benefits outweight the costs.
[03:05] <Megabyte> (add)
[03:06] <amagee> and if you have important data you want to back it up since the drive might fail anyway
[03:07] <ab`> PatrickDickey: i think it's definitely removable but i have to get inside of the laptop, and i don't have such experiences. will it be easy to do it? i have a dell vostro 3450
[03:08] <roasted> hello friends
[03:08] <ab`> PatrickDickey: i read the vendor manual but found nothing about removing  graphics card
[03:08] <jmgk> hi roasted
[03:08] <roasted> I am trying to play a DVD in Ubuntu 12.04. I have libdvdcss, libdvdread4, vlc, and restricted-extras installed. Still, both VLC and Totem are unable to play the movie. Did I miss something?
[03:14] <jmgk> gm
[03:14] <jmgk> hm
[03:15] <buu> roasted: Did you run the extra install script that comes with libdvdcss?
[03:23] <melow01> I'm working on C/C++ homework where I need to fopen() a plain text file but my professor is warning me that unix-like systems only read/write binary text files?
[03:26] <deserteagle> binary text files? o_O
[03:26] <ab`> melow01:  plain text files are one of the intrinsic natures of unix-like systems, it is definitely possible
[03:26] <deserteagle> isn't that an oxymoron?
[03:29]  * YaMoonSun thinks there's some weirdos in here.
[03:29] <melow01> ab`, ok, thanks
[03:29] <roasted> buu: you mean the /usr/doc/share/blah/bah/blah/install-css.sh?
[03:30] <melow01> deserteagle, yeah, supposedly text files are written in one of two modes: text or binary
[03:31] <deserteagle> I thought ASCII was ASCII was ASCII :\
[03:31] <deserteagle> and anything else is binary
[03:32] <deserteagle> 8 bits = 1 letter vs. 8 bits = 1 byte
[03:33] <melow01> deserteagle, from what I'm reading my textbook, binary files write their decimal digits in hex in order to save space
[03:34] <zykotick9> melow01: "binary text files" makes NO sense...
[03:34] <deserteagle> :o that makes sense
[03:35] <andywojo> well
[03:35] <zykotick9> melow01: mutually exclusive, either it's text OR it's binary...
[03:35] <melow01> zykotick9, I suppose I'm explaining it incorrectly. this is what I'm talking about: http://www.cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-textbinary.html
[03:35] <jmgk> hi al
[03:35] <zykotick9> melow01: sorry, as soon as you say cygwin i loose interest.  best of luck.
[03:35] <jmgk> hi all
[03:35] <melow01> zykotick9, all good, thanks
[03:36] <andywojo> If you compress a text file, it's considered a binary I suppose
[03:36] <deserteagle> "105" = 8+8+8 bits in ASCII vs. 0x69 = 16 bits
[03:37] <Eli-5dce> Hello Everybody :)
[03:38] <deserteagle> 'elo
[03:38] <melow01> deserteagle, I think thats the idea
[03:39] <deserteagle> anyone know of a good XML parsing tutorial?
[03:39] <jmgk> nope hmm
[03:39] <deserteagle> i'm racking my brain with this script :(
[03:39] <DOc_RoSe> does xubuntu allow you to dual boot with windows 8? Or has microsoft really against the world?
[03:40] <Eli-5dce> Microsoft is usually against the world. :P
[03:40] <jmgk> truee :P
[03:40] <DOc_RoSe> True story.
[03:48] <tripelb> here's a question. I have had my ubuntu 12.04 crap out and have to be rebooted several times. It does give me a window suggesting it has had some major error and asks me to do this. I started ubuntu with 6.04 and never have had this problem before. Also cheese will not see the same webcam I used before (though it does sho up in lsusb). Is there some ay I can see if soemthing is broken. I dot even know how to ask. If it was windows I would
[03:48] <tripelb> want to "reinstall" Also note I am using gnome-classic.
[03:52] <dkuhlman> I'm having a basic networking issue with a new ubuntu server.  Anyone have a minute?
[03:53] <zykotick9> !ask | dkuhlman
[03:53] <dkuhlman> ok, thanks
[03:54] <YaMoonSun> I do, but no use to you atm, sorry
[03:55] <dkuhlman> I'm trying to configure a static IP address on a new ubuntu server.  I've edited /etc/network/interfaces and put in the IP, mask, broadcast, network, and DNS addresses.  When I try to restart networking I get the error "ifdown: couldn't read interfaces file..."
[03:55] <tripelb> can anyone tell me the command to find out how much ram I have?
[03:56] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: are you able to pastebin (paste.ubuntu.com) your interfaces file?
[03:56] <zykotick9> tripelb: "free -h"
[03:57] <dkuhlman> one sec, I'll do that now
[03:57] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: that "couldn't read" is kinda odd...
[03:58] <sam113101> I wish fedora's community was as nice as ubuntu's
[03:58] <grache28> I'm trying to find 'atigconfig' it's not in my path (or on my system). apt-cache search aticonfig shows nothing -- any clues on where to get it?
[03:58] <tripelb> zykotick9, ty
[04:02] <dkuhlman> I had to manully type out the interfaces file...  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6502492/
[04:02] <guest1234123> I have not compiled anything on ubuntu before. How can I compile the newest version of "xf86-input-evdev
[04:02] <guest1234123> "?
[04:03] <guest1234123> What dependencies do I need in ubuntu's repository, etc and the steps to do it?
[04:03] <dkuhlman> When I type /etc/init.d/networking stop, I get the error "misplaced option"
[04:03] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: ? i don't see any issues with that file?  i've got nothing, what are the permission on the file itself?
[04:04] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: fyi, the only thing i'm not familiar with is the dns-nameservers line - but on ubuntu that might be required?
[04:05] <dkuhlman> I'll take that line out and try it.  how do you normally get DNS serves in there?
[04:06] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: ahhh, on ubuntu that "might" be the usual way?!  personally, i still have access to /etc/resolv.conf... you might not?!
[04:07] <dkuhlman> It still doesn't work with that line commented out
[04:07] <dkuhlman> I'm very new at this so it could be a very basic problem
[04:08] <tripelb> here's a question. I have had my ubuntu 12.04 crap out and have to be rebooted several times. It does give me a window suggesting it has had some major error and asks me to do this. I started ubuntu with 6.04 and never have had this problem before. Also cheese will not see the same webcam I used before (though it does sho up in lsusb). Is there some ay I can see if soemthing is broken. I dot even know how to ask. If it was windows I would
[04:08] <tripelb> want to "reinstall" Also note I am using gnome-classic.
[04:09] <sam113101> tripelb: I talked to you in private, can you see my messages?
[04:10] <dkuhlman> -rwxr-xr-x root root is the permissions on the networking file.  This is a brand new ubuntu server install.  I'll I've done so far was some updates and rebooted
[04:11] <dkuhlman> *all (not I'll)
[04:11] <zykotick9> dkuhlman: that ownership/permission seems reasonable... i've got nothing sorry.  best of luck.
[04:17] <Sanju> hi frdsss
[04:18] <buu> zykotick9: In case you were curious "text files" vs "binary files" has to do with how newlines are written and read from files.
[04:18] <Sanju> no one is there
[04:20] <zykotick9> buu: actually, that's a "text file" vs. MS's Inability to Do Text issue...
[04:26] <zykotick9> buu: just for interest, MS's "edit" was able to do REAL text, but i read MS removed that in recent windows versions
[04:28] <Gallomimia> Required plugin could not be found
[04:28] <Gallomimia> Rhythmbox requires to install plugins to play files of the following types:  (long list with held) any tips??
[04:29] <xmetal> when you install software via the package manager, i'd think it'd get anything Rythmbox needs to run
[04:29] <xmetal> hmm
[04:29] <buu> Gallomimia: Have you considered installing the plugins?
[04:31] <WiGust> Hello. I created a new user. Why doesn't /etc/environment work for him?
[04:32] <buu> How did you create the user
[04:32] <dfcnvt> Can anyone tell me what is the name of the program on my computer? http://i.imgur.com/E8UPrON.png
[04:33] <dfcnvt> Look at red arrow, pointing at it.
[04:33] <bitbagel2> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[04:33] <bitbagel2> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[04:33] <xangua> !ops | bitbagel2
[04:34] <xangua> dfcnvt: it's a clipboad manager
[04:34] <dfcnvt> I'm imagining it now... Having bitbagel2 being drummed... :p
[04:34] <dfcnvt> xangua: oka
[04:34] <WiGust> buu: # useradd -m -g users -s /bin/bash wigust
[04:34] <Eartaker> any sure whay to keep apt-get from using IPv6?
[04:35] <Eartaker> way
[04:35] <dfcnvt> xangua: Thanks, I will look into it. I tried to kill it via my cursor but it won't tell me what is it.
[04:35] <dfcnvt> xangua: Now, that you know what is it, I will research and kill it.
[04:36] <Sian> hey guys, I'm trying to install ffmpeg in this computer, but listed between the packages that will be installed, there are some nvidia, this makes no sense, I don't even have a nvidia(I only have the integrated gpu that comes with the mobo), how can I avoid this?
[04:36] <buu> Sian: What is the exact package name?
[04:36] <buu> WiGust: I don't think 'useradd' supports /etc/environment and friends..
[04:37] <buu> WiGust: Try adduser
[04:37] <Sian> buu, nvidia-settings-319 nvidia-settings-319-updates nvidia-319-updates
[04:38] <buu> Sian: Now that is odd
[04:38] <buu> Sian: what does dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia; show?
[04:39] <Sian> buu, I also think they crashed my system recently, as after installing them a week ago(ffmpeg) and after rebooting I couldn't do nothing after log (just mouse), after uninstalling nvidia I today noticed that I noticed I no longer had ffmpeg installed
[04:39] <buu> Sian: Honestly I always just compile ffmpeg myself..
[04:39] <buu> Avoids silliness like avprobe
[04:40] <WiGust> buu: oh my god. Thanks, i'll try
[04:40] <Sian> buu, I'm curious, what is that avprobe you are talking about?
[04:40] <buu> Sian: A project forked from ffmpeg
[04:40] <Sian> you mean avconv?
[04:42] <Sian> buu, well, I'm surprised, aparently it's xorg-edgers ruinning the party, though I had already removed the ppa http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502600/
[04:42] <xangua> Sian: did you remove the PPA with ppa-purge¿
[04:42] <dfcnvt> xangua: Found it, it's glipper. All I had to do was 'pkill glipper'. It goes away. Thanks anyway.
[04:43] <MrMonkey31> uh.  I wound up with 2 ext3 partitions with the same UUID.  should I proceed to use gparted to change the UUID of the one I don't intend to ever boot?
[04:43] <Sian> xangua, no, I couldn't, after waiting like 10 minutes it always says that apt-get update couldn't be completed. I used software and updates
[04:45] <Diplomatico> Hello, I just changed my root password  using "sudo passwd" command and now commands don't ask for password anymore...How can I change it?
[04:45] <amagee> Diplomatico: you mean sudo commands don't ask for your sudo password?
[04:46] <Diplomatico> That's it, for example apt-get should ask for password and doesn't ask for it.
[04:46] <buu> Diplomatico: Sudo will remember your password for 5-10 minutes
[04:46] <zykotick9> !noroot | Diplomatico
[04:46] <amagee> Diplomatico: yeah, what buu said.. it will go back to normal if you wait a little while
[04:47] <zykotick9> buu: if you're root, sudo is redundant...
[04:47] <Diplomatico> Ok, obviously I got some concept wrong.
[04:47] <buu> Diplomatico: What does 'whoami' print?
[04:47] <Diplomatico> let me see
[04:48] <Diplomatico> it prints my username.
[04:48] <zykotick9> buu: asking if prompt is $ or # might be faster/easier ;)
[04:48] <zykotick9> rootlock
[04:48] <buu> Diplomatico: Which means you aren't logged in as 'root', sudo merely lets you run a single command as root, however by default ubuntu doesn't let you log in as root.
[04:49] <buu> Diplomatico: And see earlier comment about sudo remembering password
[04:49] <Diplomatico> Solved, you were right, amagee, now is back asking for password...
[04:49] <Diplomatico> Thank you all for your prompt help!!!
[04:50] <Sian> well, I don't even. ppa-purge tells there's no ppa named xorg-edgers
[04:50] <zykotick9> Sian: if you manually removed it, that would make sense.  you might want to re-add it, then use the proper ppa-purge to get rid of it.
[04:51] <Sian> zykotick9, but last time I had it I couldn't remove it as apt-get update wouldn't be completed(that's what ppa-purge said)
[04:51] <Eartaker> anyone been able to fix the ipv6 issue with apt-get
[04:52] <zykotick9> Sian: that's bad news... i got nothin' then.  best of luck.
[04:52] <Sian> zykotick9, thanks. I will try again either way
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:54] <kalakjsd> hi all, i am using ubuntu 12.04 32 bit LTS, i have a normal CPU, 2 gb ram, it is 64 bit capable, what are the advantages of 64 bit OS as compared with 32 bit OS, apart from memory addressing, which i will not upgrade, 8gb max. motherboard can provide, but i am happy with 2 gb, should i install 64 bit ubuntu
[04:55] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, 4 gigs?  stick with 32 bit.
[04:55] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, for that matter, with only 2 gigs, you'll probably get better results with xubuntu or lubuntu
[04:55] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: okay, but what are the advantages of 64 bit processor then
[04:55] <zykotick9> kalakjsd: besides the increase in memory, encoding media and number-crunching are the advantages of 64bit.  you're probably best to stick with 32bit with 2GB
[04:55] <MrMonkey31> lotuspsychje: Hai!!!
[04:56] <dwxreaper> kalakjsd: 64bit is faster
[04:56] <kalakjsd> zykotick9: no, i don't need media encoding or something
[04:56] <zykotick9> dwxreaper: not really...
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> i agree with dwxreaper , if the machine can run 64bit why not take advantage of it?
[04:56] <dwxreaper> the CPU moves data quicker
[04:56] <kalakjsd> dwxreaper: 64 bit is faster, will i get performance improvement in my system,
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> of course
[04:57] <kalakjsd> with same specification, not memory upgradation
[04:57] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: because the overhead to address 64bits means that 2GB will be "smaller" on 64bit then on 32bit...  kalakjsd
[04:57] <kalakjsd> i don't need exxtra memory, i am happy with 2 GB ram
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> kalakjsd: i run 13.04 64bit on an ssd, and goes rocketfast
[04:58] <dwxreaper> just use 64bit if you have 64bit hardware
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> dwxreaper: agree
[04:58] <Eartaker> sudo /etc/gai.conf
[04:58] <Eartaker> oops
[04:58] <kalakjsd> lotuspsychje: i don't have SSD, i have simple HDD with 7200 RPM
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> kalakjsd: like dwxreaper says, if you payed for 64bit hardware, why not install ubuntu 64bit?
[04:59] <kalakjsd> dwxreaper: thanks, because hardware has capability, then why not
[04:59] <zykotick9> kalakjsd: fyi, your getting some bad info from some of these posts...  64bit is NOT faster, for most things.  oh, and the OTHER advantage is being able to use dates beyond 2025 (or something)
[05:00] <Dax_1x0> @_@
[05:00] <kalakjsd> zykotick9: no, i was just asking of performance benefits for a normal user, apart from memory addressing
[05:01] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, I'm running similar specs.  Even 32 bit is painfully slow.  xubuntu and lubuntu run much better.  As always, YMMV
[05:01] <kalakjsd> zykotick9: because all of us doesn't do media encoding or something like that
[05:01] <zykotick9> kalakjsd: media encoding ;)  and number crunching / simulation.  that's about it.
[05:01] <Dax_1x0> http://i.imgflip.com/3kmz0.jpg
[05:02] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: yes, i agree, chrome takes more time than WIndows, with less addons compared with windows
[05:02] <zykotick9> kalakjsd: and as i mentioned, if you go 64bit your 2BG will be smaller then if you used 32bit.  PLUS there are still some issues with running some programs on 64bit systems (though not many any more)
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Dax_1x0, nice find!
[05:02] <amagee> i haven't had any issues running everything on 64bit in years
[05:03] <kalakjsd> cfhowlett: hmm, if a program is 32 bit, then it can be run on 64 bit??
[05:03] <kalakjsd> reverse is not true, i think
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> Unless you have specific reasons to choose 32-bit, we recommend 64-bit to utilise the full capacity of your hardware
[05:03] <kalakjsd> so i should opt for 64 bit
[05:03] <kalakjsd> lotuspsychje: thanks
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> source: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[05:04]  * zykotick9 takes a deep breath... oh #ubuntu...
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | zykotick9 :p
[05:04] <cfhowlett> !64bit
[05:05] <cfhowlett> kalakjsd, see the ram suggestions?
[05:05] <kalakjsd> i have 2 gb of RAM, i upgraded my BIOS version and now ubuntu is showing 1.5 G available, rest is reserved by Bios, :(
[05:05] <kalakjsd> thanks all
[05:06]  * HeRoInA_ToDDy :.$$1 /me jr.you uon .send:/dcc 1:CHAT:boo!:/msg =$bibizinha pi/nick:!:bibizinha
[05:07]  * HeRoInA_ToDDy Ceninant doi o pe Top-Toddy_ Top-Toddy_ Top-Toddy_ Top-Toddy_ Top-Toddy_ Top-Toddy_
[05:07] <cfhowlett> DCC exploit?
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> !test | HeRoInA_ToDDy
[05:09] <pero> my oldish dell laptop has been intermittently slowing down to a crawl today - sometimes on i/o operations, and sometimes for no reason at all. running iotop/htop i can see one culprit is policykitd...
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> pero: wich ububtu version are you running on it?
[05:09] <pero> lotuspsychje: 13.10
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> pero: did it run smooth on it before?
[05:10] <pero> yeah, very
[05:10] <pero> my load is 4.20 right now and i've got nothing but hexchat and chromium - earlier today it'd get as high as 20
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> pero: any update recently?
[05:11] <pero> nah
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> pero: not sure, maybe dig around /var/log/syslog looking for errors?
[05:13] <_dan_> so i updated 9.04 -> 9.10... now running  sudo do-release-upgrade says No new release found
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> pero: maybe create another user and check the load from there, just to test
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> _dan_: we can only support versions from topic mate
[05:14] <pero> Dec  1 00:08:23 sava kernel: [11324.643769] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=600
[05:14] <pero> Dec  1 00:08:23 sava kernel: [11324.727034] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: commit=600
[05:14] <xangua> _dan_: you have to do the same thing you did to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10
[05:14] <_dan_> thought i did everything
[05:14] <xangua> !eol | _dan_ now you have left 9.10 to 10.04 and 10.04 to 12.04
[05:17] <Irishluck83> hello guys
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Irishluck83: welcome what can we do for you?
[05:18] <Irishluck83> just here to chat
[05:18] <Irishluck83> and to help
[05:18] <kriskropd> Irishluck83: !ot
[05:19] <kriskropd> nvm then :3
[05:19] <luciano> hi
[05:19] <Irishluck83> hi
[05:19] <_dan_> so i followed the direction for 9.04 to 9.10 on that site.  it has no instructions past that though
[05:19] <_dan_> O_o
[05:19] <luciano> i am in brasil
[05:20] <Irishluck83> hows the weather there luciano
[05:20] <dfcnvt> I'm starting to see an incremental amount of program in my task manager (htop)... Know any task manager that will fill in description of what program am I running?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> _dan_: how about installing 12.04 clean
[05:21] <zykotick9> !ot | Irishluck83
[05:22] <InQuIrI> hello
[05:22] <kriskropd> _dan_: you will find upgrading from one version of ubuntu to the enxt is not always so smooth - I would highly suggest installing any ubuntu distro clean if older than 12.04
[05:22] <kriskropd> next*
[05:22] <InQuIrI> how to create bootable usb on ubuntu?
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> !usb | InQuIrI
[05:23] <InQuIrI> lotuspsychje: currently i'm on ubuntu
[05:23] <InQuIrI> ijust downloaded new distro and i want to burn it in usb.
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> InQuIrI: there's a package to create startup disk by default mate
[05:23] <Eli-5dce> Hey I'm trying to run Minecraft and it says it's not exicutible I am using OpenJdk Any answers
[05:24] <xangua> InQuIrI: use ubuntu disk creator or unetbootin (will erase all the content in the USB stick)
[05:24] <luciano> hello all right irishluck83
[05:24] <InQuIrI> thank lotuspsychje and xangua
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Eli-5dce: did you try install playonlinux?
[05:25] <Eli-5dce> no. Where do you install it or do you use terminal lotuspsychje
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Eli-5dce
[05:25] <xangua> Eli-5dce: right clic in the binary, properties, mark as executable
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Eli-5dce: not sure minecraft is on the list, but worth a try
[05:26] <Eli-5dce> Wait where do I go, to use or install it?
[05:26] <Eli-5dce> lotuspsychje?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Eli-5dce: sudo apt-get install playonlinux (from terminal)
[05:27] <Eli-5dce> ok Thx
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Eli-5dce: also try what xangua sugested
[05:27] <pero> lotuspsychje: any idea what to look for in syslog?
[05:28] <luciano> i am user ubuntu
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> pero: i dont think those lines were relevant mate, maybe pastebin the whole log, and describe whats happening to your system once in a while
[05:28] <luciano> and the people on in brasil
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !br | luciano
[05:28] <luciano> br and you
[05:30] <_dan_> aha i found the trick...
[05:31] <Eli-5dce> Yes, what xangua said worked
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | xangua
[05:33] <pero> lotuspsychje: there's definitely something in there, this last syslog is much much larger than the others
[05:34] <pero> lotuspsychje: /var/log http://pastebin.com/f1EPpLXu
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> pero: lemme take a look
[05:34] <pero> yeah the log's too big for pastebin, will upload it somewhere in a sec...
[05:35] <davidrsmorris> has anyone used Uzbl here?  #uzbl is asleep.  When I log out of a Google account in Uzbl and open a new window, I'm logged in again.   Has anyone here worked around that?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> pero: no i need /var/log/syslog only mate
[05:36] <WiGust> buu: I recreate with adduser, now ok. Thanks.
[05:36] <kriskropd> davidrsmorris: i don't use uzbl, but is it clearing your cookies file? also is it reading from cache or actually logged in?
[05:36] <IIT> is their any application which convert images into pdf ?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> IIT, libreoffice
[05:37] <kriskropd> davidrsmorris: im going to try and imitate to see if i get the same reaction from uzb
[05:37] <davidrsmorris> kriskropd: I have cleared my cookies, and uzbl doesn't do caching.
[05:37] <IIT> cfhowlett, ok
[05:37] <cfhowlett> IIT, imagemagick as well
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> davidrsmorris: try to login to google with a diff account, and dont store password maybe it will ask yours after again?
[05:38] <IIT> cfhowlett, i have like 100 + images and want to combine in a single pdf
[05:39] <davidrsmorris> lotuspsychje: yes, I've been changing passwords to get out of logins, but that' can't be The Way...
[05:39] <cfhowlett> IIT, ask in #ubuntustudio
[05:39] <IIT> cfhowlett, ok
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> davidrsmorris: like kriskropd says, there must be something uzbl remembers...
[05:41] <kriskropd> davidrsmorris: I don't seem to be getting the same problem when i log out. to be clear i tried using gmail.com and did notice it stored a cookie for my username when i returned to login screen
[05:41] <davidrsmorris> kriskropd: hmm, that's unnerving, I'll try and do something that I'd need to be logged in for.
[05:41] <IIT> there is a pdf program which comes with kde it name start with k* i don't remember the exact name
[05:42] <cfhowlett> IIT, ALL KDE packages start with k   :)
[05:42] <kriskropd> davidrsmorris: you could try temporarily moving your ~/.local/share/uzbl directory and try it again and see what it does
[05:42] <IIT> cfhowlett, he he he
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: lolz
[05:42] <davidrsmorris> kriskropd: It only seems to appear logged in when on that initial page
[05:43] <cfhowlett> IIT, imagemagick is the package you want
[05:43] <IIT> cfhowlett, ok exploring imagemagick
[05:44] <pero> lotuspsychje: https://www.dropbox.com/s/94iwyt1aivhm8zg/syslog
[05:45] <kriskropd> IIT you can make a pdf from a directory of images using 'convert dir/*.jpg name.pdf'
[05:45] <kriskropd> IIT you can alo use '-display 300' to retain image resolution
[05:45] <kriskropd> or dpi rather
[05:45] <pero> lotuspsychje: it's also apparent that my power adapter is faulty, but that's old news
[05:45] <kriskropd> obviously adjusting as you see fit, 300 is decent enough for printing quality though
[05:46] <IIT> kriskropd, cool :D
[05:48] <davidrsmorris> well, I think it might be something up with the backend, since I can run grep -rnw `locate uzbl` -e [account name] and find nothing.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> pero: thats one huge log, maybe install vim improved with syntax highlight, to see errors in red
[05:49] <pero> lotuspsychje: can i grep for something instead? vim gives me migraines
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> !info vim-gtk | pero
[05:49] <pero> lotuspsychje: i know what vim is
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> pero: im note sure grep can syntax higlight, cause we are not sure what to look for
[05:50] <pero> well how does vim know it's an error
[05:50] <pero> nevermind, it's vim
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> pero: thats what syntax higlight does, shows errors in red from syslog
[05:51] <pero> pero: i was thinking it highlights based on a string, and i can just grep that string
[05:51] <pero> erm
[05:51] <pero> lotus ^^
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> pero: yes, but wich string to search on different errors?
[05:52] <pero> lotuspsychje: can i use something else? i'm not a developer and it'll honestly be easier to reinstall than to learn vim
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> pero: this is not the default vim, install vim-gtk and it will syntax highlight by default, its easy
[05:53] <kriskropd> IIT hey, i've been experimenting a bit with pdf compression, you might be interested in some scripts I wrote, I'll share them, but I haven't determined which is the best. it uses postscript and ghostscript mostly and is intended to be used after building a pdf from imagemagick http://sprunge.us/VRYd
[05:53] <pero> lotuspsychje: i did install vim-gtk but i don't see it in dash
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> pero: after install vim /var/log/syslog and it should color up
[05:54] <IIT> kriskropd, definitely i am interested..!!
[05:55] <kriskropd> pero: vim really isn't that difficult to use :x
[05:55] <pero> lotuspsychje: nope, no colours
[05:55] <pero> lotuspsychje: nevermind
[05:55] <zykotick9> vimtutor can help ;)
[05:55] <pero> are you guys joking? it's the equivalent of learning a programming language
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> lol?
[05:56] <kriskropd> IIT: :) like I said, I haven't picked which is the best yet, ghost script experiments 2 and 3 and postscript experiments 1 and 2 seems to generate similar file sizes, but I haven't done a visual quality check to ascertain all the compression losses yet
[05:56] <kriskropd> pero: I fear you have a misguided stigma sorrounding vim :P
[05:56] <pero> im not a developer
[05:57] <kriskropd> pero: this is definitely the wrong way to use vim, but you know if you hit 'i' you go into insert mode, and its jsut the same as using any other text editor in that mode
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> pero: you dont need to be a dev, to use vim
[05:57] <pero> i dont think there exists a use case for non-developers to be using ivm
[05:58] <IIT> kriskropd, ok :)
[05:58] <kriskropd> per then '<Esc>:q!' force quits  and '<Esc>:w' write to file
[05:58] <kriskropd> pero* ^
[05:58] <cfhowlett> pero, byobu haz purdy colurz
[05:59] <kriskropd> pero: convincing you to use vim longterm isn't really the goal here, it sounds like you just need to view a file for some unforseeable syntax
[05:59] <pero> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/wtqUftaf
[06:01]  * kriskropd wonders if nano might also have the syntax highlighting pero needs
[06:01] <pero> nah, nano doesn't
[06:01] <kriskropd> I wouldn't have known :)
[06:03] <ro9> hi
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> pero: the log is so big lol, cant find errors on first sight, many whoopsies
[06:04] <pero> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/wtqUftaf
[06:04] <pero> that's the only non-network error message - besides that ext4-fs one i pasted earlier
[06:04] <kriskropd> is your disk going bad?
[06:05] <kriskropd> erm, sorry, I haven't really been following your issue, pero >_<
[06:05] <pero> it's very possible
[06:05] <pero> it'a laptop from 2006
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> kriskropd: he has many load on 13.10 recently
[06:05] <pero> but yeah, system intermittently slows to a crawl as of yesterday/day before/recently
[06:05] <pero> sometimes on i/o, sometimes for no reason at all
[06:05] <kriskropd> pero if you run 'vmstat 2' the far right column shows the amount of time your cpu load avg is waiting on your disk
[06:06] <kriskropd> pero: maybe that could give you some clues :o no gurantees though
[06:06] <pero> well the whole load goes through the roof - iowait, everything - whenever this happens
[06:07] <pero> but the disks utility says the disk is healthy
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> pero: how about a tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess around with system a bit, see what errors show up in relatime
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> *realtime
[06:08] <pero> lotuspsychje: already doing that :)
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> pero: great
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> pero: did you ever had such issues on previous ubuntu versions?
[06:09] <pero> lotuspsychje: nah, never
[06:09] <pero> it's a dell xps m1210 - it's really well supported. i've never needed a driver since like 8.04
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> pero: sounds maybe like a 13.10 issue then
[06:10] <kriskropd> could it be a swap related issue?
[06:10] <pero> lotuspsychje: well, i've been on 13.10 since september and this just appeared yesterday
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> pero: thats really odd indeed, when not used an update
[06:10] <pero> kriskropd: i've got 4gb ram and 8gb swap
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> pero: and are you fully updated?
[06:11] <pero> yup
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> pero: no weird package installs?
[06:11] <pero> nah
[06:11] <pero> the weirdest things i have are like btsync and everpad
[06:11] <kriskropd> how much of your swap is being used ? swap can make your computer cry if your OS starts depending on it too much
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> pero: try create another user, see if same load persists
[06:11] <pero> kriskropd: 15mb right now
[06:12] <kriskropd> oh, psh, ignore me then XD
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> anyway bbl breakfast
[06:12] <pero> lotuspsychje: thanks for the help
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> pero: hope you solve it
[06:13] <pero> does ubuntu/linux have a chkdsk-like utility?
[06:13] <kriskropd> pero we have fsck in linux
[06:14] <kriskropd> pero I can't give you a tutorial on using it :x but I'm sure your favorite search engine will be happy to supply you with more than you wanted to know :x
[06:14] <kriskropd> pero: the gist is you cant check a disk that is mounted, so if you want to check your root disk, you will need to use a live CD environment to run fsck from
[06:14] <pero> no worries, i can figure it out
[06:15] <pero> ahh
[06:16] <kriskropd> pero in my experience, database dependant services and memory leaks cause me trouble in regards to load issues
[06:17] <pero> kriskropd: how long do you think fsck will take on a 70gb drive?
[06:18] <temp-name0> I need to edit the xorg.conf file. How to do that w/ Ubuntu?
[06:18] <kriskropd> pero im not sure :x depends on how many problems it runs into :P
[06:19] <kriskropd> pero: to be fair though, it shouldn't take very long - I think if you come back after 30 minutes and are still waiting, you might want to inspect what is holding up fsck
[06:19] <timal170> i have Ubuntu installed as my main OS but due to reasons like college project i have to install Windows do i have to start from scratch?
[06:20] <kriskropd> fsck I'd even say 10 minutes should eb enough time, but I'm really not too familiar with what all determines the speed of fsck (could have nothing to do with RPM for all I know)
[06:20] <kriskropd> pero:  ^
[06:20] <pero> thx
[06:20] <zykotick9> temp-name0: do you currently have an xorg.conf?  what do you need to edit exactly?  and lastly, what's your graphics card and/or driver?
[06:21] <kriskropd> temp-name0: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with your favorite text editor and sudo or gksudo
[06:21] <xangua> timal170: you could use a virtual machine if you want
[06:22] <temp-name0> kriskropd, ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[06:22] <zykotick9> kriskropd: you do realize that xorg.conf isn't there by default right?  so your suggestion isn't very helpful.
[06:22] <timal170> xangua VM would not do the trick the software we use for college requires a lot of resources
[06:22] <kriskropd> zykotick9: my mistake, it is for me
[06:22] <temp-name0> zykotick9, I am trying to use a nvidia quadro w/ 2 monitors and the 2nd monitor is not being detected via edid. It is showing the wrong resolution. I think if I disable the HorizSync & VertRefresh options in xorg.conf, it will allow me to properly set the resolution...
[06:23] <zykotick9> temp-name0: if you're using nvidia propritary, you should find an nvidia-xconfig program to generate it.  "sudo nvidia-xconfig" i believe, good luck.
[06:24] <temp-name0> zykotick9, thanks. I generated it and will test it now. I made the changes.
[06:24] <kriskropd> zykotick9: I'm curious, where else is it supposed to be? it seems all my copies of xorg.conf are int hat location
[06:25] <kriskropd> in that*
[06:25] <zykotick9> kriskropd: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the path, i'm not sure what your asking...
[06:26]  * kriskropd thought xorg.conf was there by default - hasn't had to touch a xorg.conf file in a very-very long time
[06:26] <zykotick9> kriskropd: xorg.conf hasn't been default for QUITE some time...
[06:27] <shadej> heya
[06:31] <trey> hi
[06:31] <trey> I need some help fixing a wireless driver issue. can anyone help
[06:32] <trey> can anyone see me typing
[06:32] <zykotick9> trey: we see you
[06:32] <trey> okay. awesome
[06:33] <trey> I need some help fixing a wireless driver issue.  can anyone help me?
[06:34] <trey> zykotick9:  do you know anything about wireless drives
[06:35] <trey> drives
[06:35] <trey> drivers
[06:35] <zykotick9> trey: i know a bit... BUT i'd suggest you share with the channel, what card you are using...
[06:35] <jmgk> anyone here use IRssi ?
[06:35] <trey> how can I check that.  I know how to find it in windows but not on ubuntu
[06:36] <zykotick9> trey: usb or pci?
[06:36] <trey> pci
[06:36] <zykotick9> trey: is it listed with "lspci | grep -i net" from terminal?
[06:36] <trey> Idk what you mean
[06:37] <trey> how do I check in terminal for the exact card
[06:37] <zykotick9> trey: run "lspci | grep -i net"
[06:37] <zykotick9> trey: no quotes
[06:37] <trey> okay doing it now
[06:38] <shadej> is there any captcha breaker for ubuntu?
[06:38] <trey> terminal response: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01)
[06:38] <trey> 03:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[06:39] <DRice7> 1:06] * Quits: NomadJim (~NomadJim@pdpc/supporter/active/nomadjim) (Read error: Con
[06:39] <DRice7> errr
[06:39] <DRice7> hey guys, I'm having some trouble with an ASRock motherboard and ACPI - here are the results.log of fstw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502794/
[06:39] <zykotick9> !broadcom | trey
[06:39] <trey> Thank you so much!
[06:39] <zykotick9> trey: i'm afraid besides that factoid, i don't know anything about broadcom - good luck.
[06:39] <jmgk> !irc
[06:39] <jmgk> hm
[06:40] <trey> That is perfectly fine. Ill try that link
[06:40] <jmgk> !irssi
[06:40] <jmgk> ah
[06:40] <jmgk> :)
[06:40] <jmgk> !screen
[06:40] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:40] <jmgk> hmm
[06:40] <niu> test
[06:41] <trey> can you please send me that broadcom link one more time
[06:41] <zykotick9> !broadcom > trey
[06:41] <zykotick9> trey: did you get that ok?
[06:42] <trey> I got it.  Thank you all again.
[06:43] <pero> kriskropd: having a load attack right now - nothing really in the log, but the load is >4 and io read is 40m/s
[06:44] <pero> write is fluctuatingbetween 10 and 80m/s
[06:44] <pero> kriskropd: swap has been maxed out at 4.7gb as well
[06:45] <kriskropd> pero: is it only spiking for a few seconds or does it seem to last about a minute?
[06:45] <kriskropd> also, aside fromy our root disk, do you have any other disks mounted?
[06:45] <kriskropd> your*
[06:45] <pero> kriskropd: it's already been >5 minutes
[06:46] <pero> nah, just sda and sdb - this is sdb that /home sits on i believe
[06:46] <kriskropd> i once had a 500GB external driv connected over USB, and when updatedb was running i noticed a system wide lagspike that lasted about one minute
[06:46] <Sian> Ok, can someone please explain this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6502888/ I used to have xorg-edgers ppa, but I purged it it pp-purge and made sure to use apt-get update after that and these files still appear, this in itself wouldn't be a problem if ffmpeg didn't ask for them, but it does
[06:46] <kriskropd> pero: turned out to just be a trouble of trying to load too much via usb bandwidth,b ut the fact that it affected the whole system was really obnoxious
[06:46] <pero> hmm, no that can't be because i don't think sdb can do that i/o
[06:47] <pero> sda is a high end samsung ssd and sdb is a 7 year old hitachi 7200rpm i think
[06:47] <kriskropd> pero you have htop right? are you sorting by memory usage?
[06:48] <kriskropd> pero F6 > MEM%
[06:48] <pero> deja-dup monitor is the culprit this time
[06:48] <kriskropd> pero: dont just look at the highest, does any process seem to be repeating a lot?
[06:49] <pero> flash
[06:49] <kriskropd> pero: i could see flash causing trouble if its using swap and swap io is slow
[06:50] <kriskropd> pero: I also just looked up deja-dup-monior, scheduled backups? that is sure to cause some load lag of some sort
[06:51] <pero> kriskropd: welp, locked up my system and had to hard-powerdown
[06:51] <kriskropd> pero: just to confirm, others have reported deja-dup causing problems sucha s yours before http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=293402
[06:51] <kriskropd> pero:  you said "this time" was it another process before?
[06:52] <pero> yeah
[06:52] <kriskropd> also forgive my poor use of punctuation >_< im in half-awake mode (2am after busy day)
[06:52] <pero> don't remember which one - some weird daemons that i've never heard of before
[06:53] <pero> i've caught 2 processes
[06:53] <kriskropd> pero: im increasingly confident that your problem is related to your swap, although I can't tell you much more than that yet
[06:54] <kriskropd> pero: by that I mean, your system is crawling because of accessign a bottlenecked swap bandwidth
[06:54] <fahadash> If ubuntu is free, how canonical is making their money ?
[06:55] <pero> heh - the fan is still trying to cool the cpu down 10 minutes later
[06:56] <xangua> !free | fahadash
[06:57] <lrvy> hello
[06:57] <fahadash> Thank you
[06:57] <fahadash> When is the Tablet version going to be released ?
[06:57] <pero> kriskropd: thanks for your help - i'll run fsck tomorrow, and if i have to buy a new hdd atleast the timing is good
[06:58] <kriskropd> pero im not sure if a new hdd will infact solve anything, I think you simply might not have enough memory to do everything your system is trying to do
[06:59] <pero> i have 4gb of ram and am not really doing much except chromium
[06:59] <kriskropd> pero: do run fsck, but also see about maybe removing some services you don't need and also maybe using some lighter weight applications
[06:59] <zykotick9> "Ubuntu is as free as we can make it" <- that's a down right lie!  that factoid should be edited/removed.
[06:59] <pero> kriskropd: how should i go about removing servics?
[07:00] <kriskropd> pero: web browsers now days are very expensive, I dont even use chrome or firefox anymore except on rare occasions (tabbed browsing tends to inspire me to create alrge sessions)
[07:00] <pero> i recently doubled the ram - while still on 13.10 - and it ran fine with just 2gb
[07:00] <kriskropd> large*
[07:00] <fahadash> !tablet
[07:01] <kriskropd> pero I run a custom-ish Ubuntu Minimal with dwm and about 90% of my choice of software runs in a bash shell, but web browsing on my core 2 duo with 4GB of memory still requires me to cross my fingers
[07:02] <pero> kriskropd: well, this only began yesterday or so, and about a month ago i had half the ram and 13.10 ran fine
[07:02] <kriskropd> pero removing services is as simple as turning them off with chkconfig (google it later :) ) but determining which you need or don't need is a bit more tasking than that
[07:02] <xangua> zykotick9: why¿
[07:02] <xangua> that's a down right lie!  that factoid should be edited/removed. - why zykotick9 ¿
[07:02] <kriskropd> pero i know chrome and firefox update at a very rapid pace nowdays, did you mayb e get a new update fro chromium that could be related?
[07:02] <kriskropd> maybe*
[07:02] <pero> nop
[07:03] <pero> i updated chromium manually about a month ago from mozilla-security repo to fix an extension bug
[07:04] <kriskropd> pero Im sorry I couldn't help you much mroe than that, this really was not a field I could claim expertise on
[07:04] <kriskropd> if you try again tomorrow, try an earlier hour, you will hit a more active time zone, likely :)
[07:07] <kriskropd> pero: you might also want to watch chromiums built-in processes monitor next time you use it - it might hint at some javascript or flash that is making it act whacky
[07:07] <pero> how do i do that
[07:09] <kriskropd> pero under your menu should be Tools and then under that should be "Task Manager"
[07:09] <kriskropd> it should help define what each processes related to chromium is doing, unlike what you might see in htop or similar
[07:09] <kriskropd> google's little way of making things more complicated :)
[07:38] <shadows> KVM gurus?   does USB passthrough work or no for Ubuntu host and W7 guest ?
[07:46] <zykotick9> shadows: no clue about w7, but i got a usb wireless working in kvm guest before...
[07:46] <helmut_> hi
[07:47] <r00tintheb0x> hi
[08:01] <trey> how do I use a .tar.gz file for a theme
[08:01] <trey> >
[08:01] <trey> how do I use a .tar .gz file for a theme
[08:02] <tachyons> trey gtk theme?
[08:02] <wheatthin> trey, you don't have to ask twice, and I'm sure if you had some more information as to what you're doing, maybe someone would answer.
[08:03] <Keavon> http://pastebin.com/9s2wQcKd
[08:03] <Keavon> I'm getting that error
[08:03] <trey> okay. I am new to this.  I found a them online and dowloaded it. I tried to move it to my themes folder, but it wouldnt let me.  how do I use that file and apply it for a theme
[08:03] <Keavon> I have the terminal in the directory where Terraria.exe is, but Wine gives an error saying it can't find the executable in a totally different directory
[08:04] <Keavon> I am following this guide http://tom-geiger.de/?p=163 but getting the error at step 6
[08:04] <wheatthin> Keavon, because it's looking in a specific location, why not move the .exe to that location? hmm
[08:04] <trey> i am running 13.04 btw
[08:05] <Keavon> wheatthin: How do I move it to that directory if, first of all, it has backslashes, and second, there are double backslashes? \\
[08:05] <wheatthin> Keavon, because if you look at the installation location where ~/.wine is then you'd understand.
[08:06] <tachyons> tey use ubuntu-tweak or unity tweak tool
[08:06] <tachyons> trey use ubuntu-tweak or unity tweak tool
[08:06] <trey> I have ubuntu-tweak, but how do I get the file to it
[08:06] <trey> It is not showing up in ubuntu-tweak
[08:06] <rohan_shanky> '.
[08:08] <Keavon> wheatthin: I still don't understand. I moved Terraria.exe and all of its other files to c_drive/windows/system32 but it's still giving the error
[08:10] <wheatthin> Keavon, hmm well those double backslashes shouldn't be there.. I dunno why it's looking there after the first initial ones
[08:11] <Keavon> Why isn't Wine just looking in the directory where I am?
[08:11] <Keavon> I cd to the directory where Terraria.exe is
[08:12] <trey> when I try to intall greenblack_by_coreman(1).tar.gz through ubuntu-tweak, I still can use it.
[08:12] <trey> *CANT
[08:12] <wheatthin> Keavon, and you tried   wine Terraria.exe   ?
[08:12] <wheatthin> trey, then it might not be compadible.
[08:13] <trey> any suggestions on where to get good compatible themes for 13.04???
[08:13] <wheatthin> nope. someone else might, or google would know.
[08:13] <Keavon> whatthin: yes, that's what I'm typing
[08:14] <trey> anyone have any suggestion on where to get good compatible 13.04 themes
[08:14] <trey> >
[08:14] <wheatthin> trey, I said stop asking more than once, thank youl.
[08:14] <wheatthin> !themes
[08:15] <trey> Thank you!
[08:18] <trey> can you please resend me those links in a pm
[08:18] <wheatthin> !themes > trey
[08:21] <Keavon> Okay I got it to work by moving Terraria's files to the desktop
[08:21] <Keavon> and doing the command on the Desktop
[08:21] <Keavon> Step 7 of the guide ( http://tom-geiger.de/?p=163 ) says to install Mono 2.10 and 2.8 via winetricks. How do I do that?
[08:21] <Keavon> I installed winetricks, but I don't know what it is or how to use it.
[08:22] <TeknoJuce01> hi having an issue the access point was not in the scanlist
[08:23] <TeknoJuce01> happens when I click on the access point in the list then the wifi seems to kill all the accesspoints after that
[08:28] <timal170> what would be the best option? Dual booting or using VM
[08:28] <TeknoJuce01> vm nobody enjoys rebooting.
[08:28] <amagee> timal170: both have strengths and weaknesses, really depends what you want to actually do
[08:29] <Keavon> Okay I posted my question http://askubuntu.com/questions/384504/how-to-install-mono-2-8-and-2-10-with-winetricks
[08:29] <amagee> dual boot if you want eg. dual monitors or high-end 3d performance
[08:30] <timal170> amagee: running some windows based softwares like SQL server management studio and few windows only games like Battlefield
[08:30] <amagee> timal170: for games you definitely want a native install of windows
[08:30] <amagee> whether you want your linux to be in a VM or dual boot is up to you, depending on what you want to do with linux
[08:31] <timal170> amagee i have ubuntu 13.10 as my main OS right now which installed day before yesterday
[08:31] <amagee> and you don't currently have windows installed?
[08:31] <timal170> right amagee
[08:32] <amagee> ok
[08:32] <amagee> what are you using linux for?
[08:33] <timal170> for programming and other day to day task like mail checking
[08:33] <dreamon> I want a file to be crypted. Is it possible to do without creating it it from new. Its a big file 900GB. I dont have enough space left to do ;)
[08:34] <amagee> timal170: yeah i guess either way would work then. for what it's worth I dual boot ubuntu with windows, which i only use for gaming.
[08:34] <amagee> though i'm starting to use VMs as well on top of that
[08:35] <timal170> if my college would not force me to use windows only programs then i would not have such trouble but...
[08:35] <drphitheta> Is anyone having problems with youtube-dl?
[08:36] <amagee> timal170: your school forces you to play battlefield? ;)
[08:36] <tracer> Hi i'm looking a guide for terminal in ubuntu
[08:37] <timal170> no amagee the SQL thing
[08:37] <amagee> ah. well if all you need is sql server then it'd be fine to run windows in a VM on linux
[08:39] <timal170> but amagee what about battlefield? :o
[08:39] <jmgk> timal170:  you can use WINE
[08:40] <amagee> timal170: then you can't blame it on your school :P
[08:40] <amagee> yeah you could check if you can play battlefield decently in wine, i have no idea
[08:41] <timal170> let me check wine db
[08:41] <amagee> anyway i'm off
[08:41] <jmgk> me too
[08:42] <timal170> amagee before you go
[08:42] <amagee> yeah?
[08:43] <timal170> if i choose to dual boot how should i divide by hard disk (500Gb)?
[08:43] <amagee> again that's really up to you
[08:43] <timal170> 50-50 or 75-25
[08:43] <amagee> windows needs fairly ridiculous amounts of space
[08:44] <jmgk> well said amagee
[08:44] <jmgk> :P
[08:44] <amagee> heh
[08:45] <timal170> i don't know what to do when it comes to dual booting
[08:45] <amagee> i have a fairly ridiculous number of partitions
[08:45] <amagee> for linux i have /, /home, and swap (which i highly recommend)
[08:45] <dalit> guys i want to password protect a file, any tools available?
[08:45] <amagee> for windows i have one for the OS and one for other data (NTFS)
[08:46] <amagee> and a couple more
[08:46] <amagee> and more again because i have multiple drives :P
[08:46] <amagee> probably best to have a bit of a think and plan out what you're going to do before you start
[08:46] <timal170> i am thinking of giving 250 to windows and 250 to ubuntu
[08:47] <dalit> guys i want to password protect a file, any tools available?
[08:47] <amagee> timal170: that's probably fine
[08:47] <timal170> battlefield 3 does not work quite well in wine
[08:47] <Ich5003> I need help, yesterday I installed my AMD graphic drivers. After reboot and login there was inly the Background and the Mouse
[08:47] <amagee> then for ubuntu you might want to divide that as 50gb for /, and 200gb for /home
[08:47] <timal170> garbage rating
[08:47] <amagee> for windows maybe 100gb for c: and 150gb for other
[08:48] <amagee> or something like that
[08:49] <timal170> for windows i would rather do 50gb for os and rest for other amagee
[08:49] <amagee> mm you may be underestimating how quickly your "os" partition will chew through data
[08:50] <timal170> oh forgot that thinking windows as ubuntu
[08:50] <amagee> hmm?
[08:50] <timal170> your suggestion is goog
[08:50] <timal170> *good
[08:51] <amagee> cool :)
[08:51] <amagee> well now i'm really off :p
[08:51] <timal170> for ubuntu though i would use 10 gb for / and rest for other
[08:52] <dalit> guys i want to password protect a file, any tools available?
[08:56] <Louis_> HI I need help with my ubuntu install
[08:57] <Louis_> I installed ubuntu yesterday and updated everything and installed ispconfig and all kinds of things and on my next reboot
[08:57] <Louis_> I got a funny looking desktop with login screen and I cant use my keyboard
[08:57] <Louis_> not sure what todo
[08:57] <Louis_> I edit grub loader to for entering shell instead and my keyboard not working to login
[08:58] <Louis_> I edit grub with my keyboard so nothing wrong with keyboard
[08:58] <Louis_> any help here anybody?
[09:02] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:02] <cristian_c> I installed qt4-qtconfig. When I open the qt configuration tool, I change the font type and size. Then I select File-> Save, and the string 'Saved changes.' appears in the statusbar
[09:03] <cristian_c> But if I close and reopen the configuration tool, I find the previous settings, as if I had not made ​​any changes
[09:04] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, sounds like a .hidden file in your /home.  find and kill.
[09:05] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, ok, but what file?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, I'd *guess* some named .qt4***
[09:07] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I don't find it :(
[09:08] <cfhowlett> cristian_c, it will be hidden ... see also your .local folder for config files
[09:09] <TeknoJuce01> anyone have exp with wifi b43 when \i
[09:09] <TeknoJuce01> click on a wifi network it pukes up an error saying it was not in the scanlist
[09:10] <yash069> cristian_c: looks like this will help u. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?43555-qt4-qtconfig-does-not-save-font-settings
[09:10] <cfhowlett> !cookkie|yash069,
[09:11] <cfhowlett> !cookie|yash069,
[09:11] <trey> is gtk 3.x the only type of themes that will work on 13.04
[09:11] <TeknoJuce01> running 13.10
[09:11] <yash069> :| i can see sarcasm all over ... :(
[09:12] <cfhowlett> yash069, I don't do sarcasm.
[09:12] <cfhowlett> yash069, you found a resource and helped a user.  Respect.
[09:12] <yash069> :)
[09:13] <yash069> 2008s bug report still not fixed ...
[09:13] <TeknoJuce01> oh wells guess I got it working
[09:13] <TeknoJuce01> thanks anyways
[09:15] <_root_> any UTF-8 editor for the commandline?
[09:16] <trey> any ideas about gtk3.x
[09:22] <yash069> trey: yes, only gnome 3.4 will work. 3.2 will have some problem ... search for GTK3|gnome3.4 theme for both unity and gnome ui
[09:22] <cristian_c> cfhowlett, I've also looked at the .local folder, but I've found nothing related to it
[09:24] <yash069> cristian_c: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/298781
[09:24] <cristian_c> yash069, I'll try to change the theme and the I'll try again to change the font settings
[09:25] <AshishL> i have just installed ubuntu and i have a broadband connection and it shows Wired Connection 1 connected  but when i try to access firefox it shows server not found . please help me as i am a noob (there arent any satisfactory answers in the forum)
[09:27] <yash069> AshishL: ifconfig output will be helpfull to solve ur problem
[09:27] <yash069> AshishL: paste to paste.ubuntu.com and paste the link here
[09:29] <AshishL> yash 069 thanks.
[09:29] <AshishL> yash069: thanks
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> AshishL  can you ping a website, but not surf to it? if so, it's a dns issue
[09:30] <AshishL> MOnkeyDust : how to ping a site ?
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> AshishL  open a terminal and type     ping [website]
[09:30] <AshishL> MonkeyDust : if it pings how to fix dns issue ?
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> AshishL  first try to ping :)
[09:31] <AshishL> MonkeyDust : is my modem not compatible ?
[09:31] <AshishL> yash069: i have a bsnl modem . is it not compatible ?
[09:32] <yash069> AshishL: that doesnt matters ... i have same
[09:37] <Jebus> My mic wont work and it is built how do I get it to work
[09:39] <coryn|notDrunk> well, since you're gone I can't answer that
[09:43] <cristian_c> yash069, I've tried to change the theme, but nothing is changed. Should I change the font type?
[09:44] <cristian_c> in the system
[09:45] <yash069> the post says change the theme and then change the font to fix it ...
[09:45] <cristian_c> yash069, theme and font both?
[09:45] <yash069> yup
[09:50] <cristian_c> yash069, but, when I've changed the font size and theme in the system, I've found alreay the font size changed in qt-config
[09:56] <cristian_c> *already
[09:56] <cristian_c> yash069, How can I solve this problem?
[10:00] <cristian_c> yash069, I've changed also the font family in the system, but it didn't work
[10:01] <cristian_c> yash069, any ideas?
[10:01] <yash069> cristian_c: :(
[10:04] <laguna86>  /EXEC rm -vf /home/giuseppedebian/.xchat2/buduscript/tmp/budus_XDCC_5337.query
[10:04] <Balzy> Hello, can someone tell me the default $LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable value?
[10:05] <Balzy> 'cause I messed up a bit and google is not helping
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Balzy  it says here : "When should I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH?"
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> The short answer is never.
[10:08] <MonkeyDust> Balzy  and here it says "In general it is not a good practice to have LD_LIBRARY_PATH permanently set in your environment"
[10:08] <Balzy> MonkeyDust the problem is that I overwrote it by adding root's lib
[10:08] <cristian_c> yash069, has anyone any other ideas?
[10:09] <Balzy> so I'm trying to set it back to it's previous value
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Balzy  it's a python issue?
[10:11] <Balzy> MonkeyDust nope, It's a kind of "user issue", adding root's libs' dir to it (following the guide on root website) I deleted the previous path and now I'd like to reset to the default value if there is one, when you install a fresh ubuntu/kubuntu distro
[10:11] <mrsrikanth> hey guys, one of my hard disks has a corrupt partition table as a result of the system hanging while partitioning. i am now trying to format it completely. but when i try to hotplug the device, it gets recognized as /dev/sdc with 150+ partitions and the system runs out of emmory. is there a way to avoid this?
[10:11] <mrsrikanth> sorry for the long question. wanted to give some info
[10:13] <yash069> cristian_c: rm ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
[10:14] <yash069> cristain_c, then use qtconfig to re-configure ... hopefully will work but
[10:14] <yash069> cristain_c: better do mv ~/.config/Trolltech.conf ~/.config/Trolltech.conf.old
[10:15] <yash069> if didnt work then replace it back
[10:16] <yash069> mrsrikanth: best way to fix it, get a new harddrive.
[10:17] <yash069> mrsrikanth: does it make click sounds ?
[10:17] <mrsrikanth> yash069, yes it is spinning if that is what you are referring to
[10:18] <mrsrikanth> yash069, there has to be way to stop linux from reading the partition table isn't it?
[10:19] <yash069> mrsrikanth: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWR34wKBNS0
[10:19] <yash069> this sound
[10:20] <mrsrikanth> yash069, no. it doesnt make that sound
[10:22] <ab`> what happened to totem youtube plugin in version 3.8.2? its missing and i can't find it in plugins list
[10:27] <streulma> is there a reason why I should use Linux above Mac OS X ?
[10:28] <vladmir> streuma: no reason
[10:28] <aeon-ltd> streulma: do you want to?
[10:29] <streulma> well, my reason was that the OSX apps are not free, and OSX updates also not free. But now, OSX is free
[10:30] <streulma> and if I use OSX, if my PC is old, I can't use it anymore to update. So with Linux I can update and it is always free
[10:31] <aeon-ltd> streulma: osx updates are free, what are you talking about?
[10:31] <aeon-ltd> when 10.9.1 rolls round it will be free...
[10:31] <aeon-ltd> streulma: how old is your mac?
[10:31] <CiSense> Hi, clonezilla failed to clone a 13.04 partition to an empty ntfs partition. 13:04 reboots ok but XP fails to boots, how can I recover?I rebooted So I rebooted
[10:32] <streulma> aeon-ltd: it is not for now, but over years, I have a Retina
[10:32] <aeon-ltd> 2013?
[10:32] <streulma> 2012
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> CiSense  not sure if ubuntu works on ntfs
[10:33] <aeon-ltd> dude i'm on a 2008 regular macbook, i'll switch over to linux when security takes a real hit, so far only java is my concern. your battery is more likely to die in the next 4-5 years than osx ditching support
[10:33] <CiSense> MonkeyDust, maybe that was the problem, i assumed it would reformat to ext4
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> CiSense  yes, try that first
[10:34] <CiSense> in any case it has corrupted the XP boot
[10:34] <streulma> try boot-repair ?
[10:34] <CiSense> streulma, that sounds good ...
[10:35] <CiSense> where is it?
[10:35] <aeon-ltd> streulma: you don't have to purchase software, but osx is getting more closed in since lion. if you want linux then get linux, but ime it's too much hassle - though i'm guessing your rMBP has more support than my mac
[10:36] <squakie> I have never used IRC chat - do I just ask my question
[10:37] <aeon-ltd> squakie: yup, it's best to keep in on one line, and don't ask to ask in the future - this reduces channel clutter
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> squakie  yes, ask in one line, then wait :)
[10:37] <CiSense> streulma, ok i see the help page
[10:37] <squakie> does anyone know how  to return more than 250 results on a forum search?
[10:38] <aeon-ltd> squakie: also stay on topic, how is this ubuntu related?
[10:38] <squakie> Well I went to the ubuntuforums IRC first, it said all support questions go here
[10:39] <gulzar> is there any problem using "hdparm -B 1 -S 12 /dev/sda" ?
[10:39] <sadistico82> hola
[10:39] <squakie> maybe I should have said ubuntuforums.org search
[10:40] <gulzar> squakie: the commands are different in forum
[10:41] <squakie> guess I'll give up......don't undrstand what is being said - it's ubuntu, it's the forums, it links to here.  Guess not.
[10:41] <streulma> aeon-ltd: the design capacity of my battery is 8460 mAh, I have 8083 mAh and 171 loadcycles
[10:41] <cristian_c> yash069, I've renamed it, but if I open qtconfig, the gui is strange, the font family and the font size are already different
[10:44] <cristian_c> yash069, any other ideas?
[10:45] <rampageRipper> how 2 get flash memory directories delete-pritocted?
[10:47] <rampageRipper> how 2 get flash memory directories 2 b delete-protected?
[10:47] <CiSense> streulma, boot-repair is confusing ... it installed and started ok into my working 13.04,  now it wants to remove all grub 2 files
[10:47] <cristian_c> yash069, settings are now saved, but gui is horrible
[10:47] <cristian_c> for qt applications :(
[10:47] <streulma> CiSense: that's OK, then he reinstall the files
[10:48] <CiSense> ok
[10:49] <tozen> hi all! how to choose x environment without lightdm? i mean what do i need to tipe in console with or without <startx>? thx
[10:50] <Rootbrian> tozen: if you meant switch window manager/session, that can be done before logging in.
[10:50] <tozen> lxde or xfce
[10:50] <CiSense> streulma, ok now I reboot?
[10:51] <streulma> if it is done CiSense yes
[10:51] <tozen> Rootbrian: how?
[10:51] <Rootbrian> tozen: Change the session before logging in.
[10:52] <Rootbrian> tozen: click Session, then select the window manager.
[10:52] <CiSense> streulma, it says removing grub2-common ....... ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[10:52] <Rootbrian> Tozen: window manager/desktop environment being LXDE or XFCE.
[10:53] <streulma> CiSense have you tried boot-repair and let it done?
[10:53] <CiSense> yes
[10:53] <CiSense> it removed files
[10:54] <CiSense> does it reinstall on reboot?
[10:54] <streulma> no
[10:55] <timal170> how to get all the packages even after reinstalling ubuntu?
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> timal170: you mean backup your current installed packages?
[10:56] <timal170> yes lotuspsychje
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | timal170
[10:56] <CiSense> streulma, how do i reinstall grub?
[10:57] <Rootbrian> CiSence: sudo apt-get install grub
[10:57] <CiSense> Rootbrian, thx but why doesn't boot-repair do that?
[10:57] <Rootbrian> CiSense: in the existing terminal, use sudo apt-get install grub
[10:58] <timal170> thanks lotuspsychje btw i am dual booting windows 7 and is really confused about partitioning the disk can you help me?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | timal170
[10:59] <Rootbrian> timal170: Use the partition editor (gparted) to resize the partition, then create the swap and linux partition(s).
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> timal170: if course i would reccomend you single boot ubuntu, and loose windows once and for good :p
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> timal170  that's two different questions, better explain what brings you here
 check permissions for config file ... should be write protected, if changed settings using something other than qtconfig, fix them
[10:59] <tozen> Rootbrian: no! i have no any gdm or lightdm installed on a system and i dont want it as well. i'm starting default environment just tiping <startx> command in to console. so what's need to be configured to get possibolity to switch between unity, gnome, lxde? thx
[10:59] <CiSense> Rootbrian, ok grub reinstalled, do I reboot now?
[11:00] <Rootbrian> CiSense: Yes.
[11:00] <timal170> lotuspsychje thats what i thought while installing ubuntu but my college...
[11:00] <CiSense> thx
[11:00] <cristian_c> yash069, ok
[11:00] <tozen> Rootbrian: smth like startxlxde
[11:00] <Rootbrian> CiSense: Recommended to use grub-install /path/to/volume
[11:01] <Rootbrian> tozen: startx will start the default desktop manager, then you can select the session before logging in.
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> tozen  open a terminal and type    man xinit     i guess it's useful for what you wnat to do
[11:03] <timal170> lotuspsychje is there an alternative to maya and sql server
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | timal170
[11:04] <cristian_c> yash069, -rw-r--r-- 1 cristian cristian 13843 dic  1 10:59 /home/cristian/.config/Trolltech.conf
[11:05] <timal170> lotuspsychje not lamp something which handles data transaction and has rollback feature
[11:05] <cristian_c> yash069, I'm the file owner
[11:09] <cristian_c> yash069, the owner has got the writing permissions
[11:09] <yash069> cristian_c: are u using KDE shell ?
[11:09] <cristian_c> no
[11:12] <CiSense> streulma, now I only have a grub prompt .. how do i reboot 13.04?
[11:14] <yash069> cristian_c: read this post https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1270870#p1270870
[11:16] <cristian_c> yash069, ok, but the problem is appeared just after installing qtconfig
[11:16] <cristian_c> O.o
[11:18] <CiSense> hi ... i only have grub running, how can I reboot 13.04?
[11:18] <cristian_c> yash069, but if I rename or remove this file, the applications' gui (also qt4-qtconfig) becomes horrible
[11:20] <cristian_c> yash069, How can I solve this?
[11:22] <yash069> cristian_c: its not generating a new file ?
[11:23] <cristian_c> yash069, yes, its generated
[11:23] <cristian_c> but gui is very very horrible
[11:23] <cristian_c> It solves a problem, but it creates an other one
[11:26] <yash069> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6503703/
[11:27] <yash069> add a '?' after < at first line
[11:27] <yash069> and then renmae ur ~/.font.conf
[11:27] <yash069> and use those config
[11:27] <cristian_c> yash069,  <?xml version='1.0'?>
[11:27] <cristian_c> ?
[11:27] <yash069> yes
[11:27] <cristian_c> ok
[11:28] <yash069> idiotic paste says me i cant paste php code but its not even php code... /o\
[11:29] <cristian_c> yash069, wait, when I open Trolletech.conf with a text editor, there isn't a xmlo content
[11:29] <cristian_c> :O
[11:29] <cristian_c> it's not a xml file
[11:29] <cristian_c> ah, ok
 and then renmae ur ~/.font.conf
[11:30] <yash069> i mean move that file to save old settings
[11:31] <cristian_c> ok, I rename Troltech.conf to Trolltech.conf and I create .font.conf in my home?
[11:31] <cristian_c> ok, I rename Troltech.conf to Trolltech.conf.old and I create .font.conf in my home?
[11:32] <tonitonito> hey guys someone there who can help me with wifi problems?
[11:32] <EpixP0ison> hi ubuntu boots then allows me to login but then i get a black screen no icons wallpapper unity ect my cursor shows though i recently installed python opencl any help?
[11:32] <yash069> tonitonito: what the problem is ?
[11:33] <Stanley00> EpixP0ison: you can try reset unity first :D
[11:33] <EpixP0ison> how
[11:33] <cristian_c> yash069, or should I make something different?
[11:33] <Stanley00> EpixP0ison: what's your ubuntu version?
[11:33] <EpixP0ison> 12.4 i think
[11:33] <EpixP0ison> or the most recent
[11:33] <yash069> cristian_c, no that fine. did it work ?
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  type    cat /etc/issue to find out
[11:34] <EpixP0ison> no term
[11:34] <Stanley00> EpixP0ison: Ctrl+Alt+T ?
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  ctrl-alt F1, then type cat /etc/issue
[11:34] <EpixP0ison> i cant use ubuntu past login
[11:34] <EpixP0ison> tried that
[11:34] <tonitonito> yash069: i got i wifi connection, but no internet. ping to router ok to google not. same hardware with windows no problem. network-card: RTL8180L
[11:35] <yash069> EpixP0ison: recovery mode
[11:35] <cristian_c> yash069, I've not understood
[11:35] <EpixP0ison> ok in recovery
[11:35] <EpixP0ison> the root mode
[11:35] <yash069> yes
[11:35] <cristian_c> yash069, I can try to rename Trolltech.conf and add .fonts.conf in my home
[11:35] <yash069> tonitonito: mostly dns problem
[11:35] <tonitonito> yash069: tried several distros with dozen of kernel version, everytime the same effect
[11:35] <cristian_c> Is this right?
[11:36] <EpixP0ison> ok now what
[11:36] <tonitonito> yash069: hmm ok how to fix it?
[11:36] <yash069> tonitonito: can u ping 8.8.8.8
[11:36] <tonitonito> yash069: yes
[11:36] <yash069> echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf
[11:37] <EpixP0ison> ubuntu 13.10
[11:38] <yash069> cristian_c: sorry, yes
[11:38] <cristian_c> ok
[11:38] <EpixP0ison> sorry on my phone
[11:38] <EpixP0ison> ok now what
[11:38] <yash069> cat /etc/issue
[11:38] <EpixP0ison> 13.10
[11:39] <tonitonito> yash069: ok done, how to reload this file?
[11:40] <Stanley00> EpixP0ison: now retart, login into your account, and run  "dconf reset -f /org/compiz/"
[11:40] <yash069> add "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4" to ur /etc/network/interfaces file
[11:40] <yash069> +for wlan0
[11:41] <yash069> cristian_c, did that fix ur problem ?
[11:41] <EpixP0ison> got a masive error
[11:41] <Guest17994> hello mi name is sol soy de argentina
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  what error?
[11:41] <cristian_c> yash069, I'm trying, I tell immediately
[11:41] <EpixP0ison> runtime check failed
[11:41] <bekks> !es | Guest17994
[11:42] <EpixP0ison> dconf path must negin woth a slash
[11:42] <CiSense> hi ... I have 13.10 running from a live USB, how can I repair my 13.04 system?  on boot there is only a grub prompt
[11:42] <Guest17994> grasias :)
[11:42] <EpixP0ison> sprry phonw sucks
[11:43] <tonitonito> yash069: ok done
[11:43] <EpixP0ison> excuse bad spelling
[11:43] <EpixP0ison> ok so wbat now
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  could you re-state your issue?
[11:43] <EpixP0ison> ok
[11:44] <yash069> tonitonito: now after reboot also, u wont need to add nameserver to resolv.conf :)
[11:44] <mrsrikanth> yash069, thanks for your help. i fixed my problem by hot plugging the disk and deleting partitions quickly before the system could freeze
[11:44] <EpixP0ison> ubuntu wont go past login screen i am able to login but then no wallpapper unity ect just black background and my cursor
[11:45] <yash069> mrsrikanth: good to hear u solved it :)
[11:45] <EpixP0ison> i recently installed pytjon opencl
[11:45] <tonitonito> yash069: ok, now i can ping google.com but i got a package loss of 20%.
[11:46] <cristian_c> yash069, same horrible gui
[11:46] <yash069> tonitonito: might be network problem
[11:47] <yash069> :( , i cant help anymore with that cristian_c
[11:47] <tonitonito> yash069: on windows it is working like a charm
[11:47] <EpixP0ison> any help monkeydust
[11:47] <cristian_c> yash069, If I rename Trolltech.conf, the qt applications miss the original theme
[11:48] <cristian_c> yash069, then, Trolltech.conf must not be deleted
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  can you un-install that python thing? does it change anything?
[11:48] <Guest17994> necesito ayudaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:48] <Guest17994> hello
[11:48] <EpixP0ison> how thoigb im in recovery mode root but apt wonr let me
[11:48] <bekks> !es | Guest17994
[11:48] <Guest17994> yesssssss
[11:49] <bekks> Guest17994: #ubuntu-es
[11:49] <Guest17994> en donde lo pongo
[11:49] <Guest17994> ?
[11:50] <EpixP0ison> any idea monkeydust
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  can you un-install that python thing? does it change anything?
[11:50] <EpixP0ison> i just said
[11:50] <EpixP0ison> i cant uninsrall it
[11:50] <EpixP0ison> im in recovert mode roor
[11:51] <EpixP0ison> and apt dosnt let me
[11:51] <yash069> make a new user
[11:51] <yash069> then try login into it EpixP0ison
[11:51] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  did the problem start after you installed that python package? if so, find a way to uninstall it
[11:52] <EpixP0ison> i think so but it took a reboot until it happened
[11:52] <Guest17994> ayudaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[11:52] <EpixP0ison> but i dont know how to remove it
[11:53] <Guest17994> por favor
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> !es | Guest17994
[11:53] <EpixP0ison> unable to write to /vae/cache/apt
[11:54] <cristian_c> Any other ideas?
 yes, u may put the origianl file back, until u find a solution
[11:54] <EpixP0ison> not using locking for read only file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:54] <Guest17994> donde pongo esto\join #ubuntu-es
[11:54] <Guest17994> ?
[11:55] <cristian_c> yash069, ok
[11:55] <EpixP0ison> the package list or status file could not be parsed or opened
[11:55] <EpixP0ison> any ideas on how to remove the package
[11:55] <Guest17994> what??
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest17994  type it here, in the channel
[11:56] <beta__> Hello?
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> beta__  it works, you're in
[11:57] <beta__> Awesome!!
[11:57] <EpixP0ison> monkeydust any odeas
[11:57] <yash069> monkeydust, LOL
[11:57] <EpixP0ison> ideas
[11:57] <beta__> oye !! silly doubt .. how do you tag someone??
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> EpixP0ison  yes: delete that python package somehow
[11:58] <EpixP0ison> how.....
[11:58] <EpixP0ison> thats the problem
[11:58] <tonitonito> yash069: no other idea?
[11:58] <engyishere> how to uninstall a conky in 13.10
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> Guest17994  keep it in the channel, please, type /join #ubuntu-es
 sorry, about what ?
[11:59] <Guest17994> allguien habla en español
[11:59] <Guest17994> ?
[11:59] <xauth> Just go in but... how can deleting a package be a problem?
[11:59] <tonitonito> my problem, that a website (even google.com) wont even load because of slow network/package loss
[12:00] <Guest17994> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:00] <cfhowlett> Guest17994, olllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[12:00] <beta__> guest17994 Helllllllllloooo
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !english|Guest17994,
[12:01] <yash069> tonitonito: might be a problem with adapter.
[12:02] <tonitonito> so change driver?
[12:02] <yash069> try with wired connection, if possible .. does the problem persist.
[12:02] <tonitonito> no, wired works and wifi with windows also works
[12:03] <yash069> u have windows on same machine ?
[12:03] <tonitonito> yes dualboot
[12:03] <beta__> yo 88 ...
[12:08] <boris_OZ> a
[12:09] <beta__> b
[12:09] <bugtraq> c
[12:09] <beta__> ...
[12:09] <boris_OZ> still setting up irssi XD
[12:11] <yash069> :| i missed it, i wanted to type d after bugtraq
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> boris_OZ  some tips: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6503884/
[12:12] <yash069> tonitonito: check whether MTU are some for ubuntu install and windows
[12:12] <yash069> to check on windows type "netsh interface ipv4 show subinterfaces"
[12:13] <yash069> note the value for wireleass connection
[12:13] <Guest17994> bay
[12:13] <tonitonito> and on ubuntu?
[12:14] <Guest17994> what?
[12:15] <yash069> then on ur ubuntu install here, http://i.stack.imgur.com/1nq8V.png
[12:15] <yash069> just make it similar to windows
[12:15] <yash069> and then hope it works well
[12:15] <tonitonito> ok
[12:19] <yellabs> how can i join ( concat ) two mp4 files with avconv ?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:19] <Soulire> does anyone know how to set up a wifi connection on bugtraq
[12:20] <bekks> Soulire: Whats "bugtraq"?
[12:20] <Guest17994> hello soy de argentina necesito ayuda
[12:20] <Ignacio> Guest17994, Hola, Escribi /join #ubuntu-es
[12:20] <Soulire> its a linux OS
[12:21] <bekks> Soulire: I guess it is not Ubuntu then - and it isnt supported in here.
[12:21] <Soulire> im using it now wired but cant seem to connect through wifi
[12:21] <cfhowlett> Soulire, perhaps you should ask them for support ...
[12:21] <Soulire> it uses ubuntu
[12:21] <francisquare> hey how to reinstall or repair the shared library companion?
[12:21] <Jordan_U> Soulire: This channel only supports Ubuntu, not Ubuntu derivatives. Try asking in their support fora.
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !derivatives
[12:22] <Soulire> ok thanks
[12:22] <francisquare> i deleted the eclipse companion library
[12:22] <francisquare> anyone?
[12:22] <yash069> Soulire: try ##linux
[12:23] <yash069> francisquare: uninstall them, "apt-get remove <package_name>"
[12:24] <yash069> but u will need to recall what u have deleted
[12:24] <francisquare> i did uninstall it and install again via ubuntu software center
[12:24] <francisquare> still no luck
[12:25] <francisquare> well going to try again, ty yash069 brb
[12:32] <tonitonito> yash069: mtu change couldn't resolve problem :(
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Hey guys. I've seen hard drives with SSDs (hybrid). Is it possible to install Ubuntu to this then use the platter storage for /home and /var etc? Or am I missing something? Thanks
[12:32] <yash069> tonitonito: what adapter you have ?
 u mean /home and /var mounted on other drive ?
[12:35] <yash069> yes ofcource u can do that ..
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Yash069: yeah, 8Gb is more than enough for / here.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Yashp69: are both drives detected separately?
[12:36] <sofox> Hey, this is a more technical question, but say you are running an Ubuntu in a VPS with an IP address, how would you send email to it?
[12:36] <Overlordz> ActionParsnip, my understanding of hybrid drives is that they just appear as 1 regular drive to the OS
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: you'd need to buy a domain and set the NS record to the IP of your VPS
[12:37] <yash069> ActionParsnip: i took ur question wrongly ...
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: ah, was looking for a kind of 2in1 drive. Looks like I'll need 2 separate storages
[12:37] <yash069> hybrid drive use SSD as cache to fasten read write
[12:38] <yash069> so they cant be used diffrently
[12:38] <sofox> ActionParsnip: Okay, so say I've got a domain and set the DNS to the right IP address, what do I do then?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: did you set the MX record to the mailserver's IP
[12:39] <sofox> What's a MX record?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: its how mail works. The MX record is the mailserver of the domain.
[12:40] <sofox> Is this part of the DNS redirect or something I set up on the VPS itself?
[12:40] <yash069> setting up mail server haunts me :(
[12:40] <xauth> How about sending the mail to the ip address?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: if you run: dig google.com ,you will see the A record (web)
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: if you run: dig mx google.com ,you will see the mailserver addresses
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: so when you email user@domain.com ,DNS needs to know the IP of the mailserver so it uses the MX record
[12:43] <sofox> Okay, what does SOA stand for?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Xauth: i guess user@some.ip.goes.here would work. Bypassing DNS
[12:44] <sofox> Okay, I tried sending an IP email.
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DNS_record_types
[12:44] <sofox> but yeah, using dig mx on the domain I had set up, it gave me something saying SOA instead of MX.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: you will need to set the MX record in your DNS if you want to use the same name
[12:46] <sofox> Okay, I've set the MX record of the ip to the same domain as the website, but now it's giving me an error.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: when did you set it? What is the TTL of the record?
[12:46] <sofox> I'm setting it just now.
[12:47] <sofox> Following your advice, I opened up the DNS details.
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: then you will need to wait for the record to expire, then you will get the new record. Your system will cache the record for the length of the TTL
[12:49] <sofox> ActionParsnip, thank you for all this, you've given me a good direction to work in, I'll keep at it for now, thanks!
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: basic DNS stuff dude
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Sofox: remember, even a nonreply or norecord for DNS has a TTL. Your system will cache the lack of DNS record for a time
[12:52] <tonitonito> yash069: sorry was away...i got a realtek 8180
[13:02] <thogan> Let's see if anyone has run across this before.  I have a new install of Ubuntu 13.10 on a system with three interfaces. Ifconfig will show stats for eth1 and eth2 but eth0 is always showing 0.  Yes traffic is passing through eth0.  Ideas how to correct?
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> thogan  start with    ifconfig|pastebinit     and paste the url in the channel
[13:08] <rwc2> can someone assist with removing proprietary graphic driver from my system
[13:08] <thogan> ifconfig|pastebinit
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> thogan  type it in a terminal
[13:09] <thogan> paste.ubuntu.com/6504081/
[13:10] <thogan> yes sorry, my cut and paste was not working between screens.  The correct URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504081/
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> thogan  those inet addrresses do not seem local to me
[13:12] <thogan> As you can see the RX and TX values for eth0 are 0 and I am trying to figure out why
[13:12] <thogan> What do you mean local?  They are public IPv4 and global IPv6 addresses.
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> thogan  is that through a router?
[13:14] <thogan> A router yes, no NAT involved.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> no NAT, then what?
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> NAT is the main purpose of a router
[13:17] <thogan> MonkeyDust: I am not following your questioning.  A routable IP address is assigned to the server and is directly connected to the Internet.  I have had this configuration for several years but have never seen ifconfig not show any stats.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> Thogan: then its not a router if the systems behind if get a routable address.
[13:18] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  on eth0:0 and 1 you cant have 0.0.0.0 as broadcast address
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> thogan  i guess it's beyond me, i should expect 192.168.... or so for inet
[13:18] <xbrkxbr> hi guys I need help w,th linux mint (everybody in that cannel are slepping currently) the web performanca looks like awfull accutaly http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/Eee_PC_1201N_Seashell/#specifications    here this is my pc and spesicifation can you tell me is that normal or not or how can improve the web performance
[13:18] <ucenik> hi. i have laptop with 2gb disk flash and 16gb usb stick. how can i install system on 2gb and 16gb disk combined
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> xbrkxbr: mint isnt supported here
[13:18] <Sh1G3rU> the broadcast should be the last adress of the range, and network address the first of the range
[13:18] <ucenik> because i wanna use speed of interlan 2gb disk, if possible, not whole system on usb
[13:18] <Sh1G3rU> of the subnet*
[13:18] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Oh, good catch.  I will check my interfaces file and see where I messed that one up.
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> Usenik: you could use the 2Gb as swap space
[13:19] <guru_shipu> when I do apt-get update or try to install any software, I get error like: Reading packages list.....Error! E:Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/dl.google.com_inux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_i18n_translation-en E: The package lsits or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:19] <guru_shipu> please help
[13:19] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, good idea
[13:19] <ucenik> anything elseŽ?
[13:20] <Sh1G3rU> if you have 192.168.1.0/24 your network is 192.168.1.0 and your broadcast is 192.168.1.255
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> guru_shipu: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/ 8850924/fixpackage
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage
[13:21] <hadifarnoud> when I tar -zxvf myfile.tar.gz, I get errors like tar: Ignoring unknown extended header keyword `SCHILY.dev'
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> guru_shipu: wget that script or run the commands in order
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> Hadifarnoud: try extracting with unp
[13:21] <guru_shipu> ActionParsnip, the link doesnt open
[13:21] <hadifarnoud> ActionParsnip: does these mean extraction was not done properly?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> guru_shipu: try wgetting the file
[13:22] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: I am failure with the broadcast, what gets me is this is what I have in my interfaces file and I have used for some time, post-up   ip -f inet addr add 50.76.143.90/29 dev eth0 label eth0:0
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> hadifarnoud: not 100% sure
[13:22] <guru_shipu> ActionParsnip, ok
[13:23] <hadifarnoud> ActionParsnip: i get same errors
[13:23] <Guest49236> good day, everyone. I'm a linux fearless newbie, and I've been trying to get my USB Soundcard up and running on Ubuntu 13.10 x64, but to no avail. I was wondering if anyone might be able to assist me?
[13:23] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: In the past, it seems that the broadcast was automatically filled in from the eth0: down to ext0.x.  Guess I need to statically set it now?
[13:23] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  a /29 means you own 8 ip adresses of wich .90 is your network and .98 is your broadcast
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> guru_shipu: its the commands in step 5 here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:23] <guru_shipu> ActionParsnip, ok
[13:24] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  usually those ip are given away from your dhpc server wich is either in your router or on your isps servers
[13:25] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Those IPs are given to my from my ISP and my network is 88 with my broadcast of 95.
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> thogan  what's your router's ip address?
[13:26] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  i took this as an example
[13:26] <Sh1G3rU> 50.76.143.90/29
[13:26] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Should not the /29 in my up command have set the broadcast?
[13:26] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: I understand.
[13:26] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  are your interfaces directly connected to the internet?
[13:26] <ben__> How do I find the loop device associated with a specific file? Is there a better way than grepping 'losetup -f' ?
[13:27] <Sh1G3rU> i mean do you manage your own routing ?
[13:27] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Yes
[13:27] <lazureus> hello everybody, I was wonder could someone help me with one problem, I've installed summon-arm-gcc toolchain recently
[13:27] <Sh1G3rU> well then you should use only one interface
[13:27] <Sh1G3rU> and on that interface build virtual interfaces of sequential ip
[13:28] <lazureus> but it turns out that it is obsolete, does anyone can tell me how to uninstall it ? can I just remove files from the /usr/bin folder ?
[13:28] <Sh1G3rU> but i guess you did all this for the failover , bonding or load balancing
[13:28] <Sh1G3rU> well you can split up the ip
[13:28] <Sh1G3rU> half to one physical interface and half to the second
[13:28] <CiSense> hi ... (13.04) how can i quickly change video driver?, system locks up after a few mins with grapical errors ...
[13:28] <Sh1G3rU> and on that you build virtual interfaces
[13:29] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Right, that is what I did.  89 is the main IP address on eth0, 90 is a vip and sofourth
[13:29] <Sh1G3rU> ok good
[13:29] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  you cannot assign multiple ipv4 to a single interface
[13:30] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Why not?
[13:30] <Sh1G3rU> you can assign as many as you wish ipv6 but ipv4 must have only one
[13:30] <BluesKaj> WolfPete.  does your usb card show whern using this csudo aplay -lommand in the terminal , sudo aplay -l
[13:30] <Sh1G3rU> thogan, because it doesnt work
[13:30] <BluesKaj> oops
[13:30] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: I have done that for some time in order to run multiple web sites with SSL
[13:30] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  you have to build for every ip virtual nics
[13:30] <Sh1G3rU> and you have only 2
[13:31] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. ignore the csudo aplay -lommand
[13:31] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: Thank you for your response. Negative, it does not show up there. However, I see it when doing lsusb.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> yes WolfPete , ok what about alsamixer in the terminal?
[13:32] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I cannot see the device there either.
[13:32] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Not sure that I follow.  I thought I found in the Ubuntu Fourms steps for assigning multiple IPs to an interface by defining the interface in the /etc/network/interfaces file and then using post-up directive to add the aliases, or vips, or whatever they shoudl be called.
[13:32] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I hit F6 to show all devices, but it is not listed there. Futhermore, I have edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and have set options snd-usb-audio index=0
[13:33] <Sh1G3rU> thogan, your real nick has only one ipv4 and plenty ipv6
[13:33] <Sh1G3rU> on your real nick you add virtual nic-s
[13:33] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. do you intend to use this usb card permanently , if so you may have to change the default audio in your BIOS
[13:33] <Sh1G3rU> and on every and each one of them you add 1 ipv4
[13:34] <WolfPete> BlueKaj: I intend to use, but I also would like to switch to other devices when necesarry.
[13:35] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I remember this soundcard working on earlier versions of Ubuntu in the past.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. makesure your integrated soundcard isn't also index or card "0"
[13:35] <jelle_s>  Hello, My name is Jelle, and i have a problem with connecting a usb device in virtualbox,  do you know where to correctly post this question?
[13:36] <thogan> Sh1G3rU: Oh, I see what you are saying.  Yes, this is a bug in Ubuntu.  I would have to look up the document again but basically Ubuntu does not know how to add an IPv6 address to an interface label of eth0:1 or eth0:2 and every IPv6 address ends up under eth0.  This in itself should not effect the interfaces ability to show RX and TX stats though.
[13:36] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: How do I make sure it isn't ?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, you added the guest additions?
[13:37] <Sh1G3rU> thogan,  nope ubuntu routes very well both ip v4 and v6 on both virtual and real interfaces you must configure them
[13:37] <thogan> Okay, then do you have a link to the steps for doing that so I can double check my configuration?
[13:38] <jelle_s> i've added the extension pack, i've downloaded guest addition iso, i've burned a cd of this iso, tried to install the thing, but got error message
[13:38] <jelle_s> i'll try it again to post the error nessage exactly
[13:39] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. run  cat /proc/asound/modules , that shows which drivers are installed and their default order , then you cab change the index setting in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:40] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I do not see my usb listed there, only "snd_hda_intel" twice (index 0 and 1)
[13:41] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. also if you have pavucontrol installed , you can set the default outputs there.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. whaich audio chip does the usb card use ?
[13:41] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I have installed that yesterday whilst trying to fix it, I do not see my usb card listed in pavucontrol.
[13:42] <jelle_s> i have now correctly installed the guest additions in my ubuntu hostmachine, but can't add usb devices yet...
[13:42] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I sadly do not know what to tell you. I can see it as Bus 005 Device 003: ID 0d8c:000c C-Media Electronics, Inc. Audio Adapter when running lsusb.
[13:42] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, enable usb in the settings
[13:43] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, actually which virtualbox did you install?  the one in the repos or directly download from oracle
[13:43] <jelle_s> done, and also the ehc 2.0 controller, but nevertheless 'no usb available'
[13:44] <jelle_s> i've got virtualbox directly from vboxwebsite,
[13:44] <jelle_s> version 4.2.18
[13:44] <sheldor> hi
[13:44] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, then you need to enable USB passthrough on the machine settings while the machine is off
[13:44] <cfhowlett> sheldor, greetings
[13:45] <sheldor> have someone  been tried the command "cmatrix" ?
[13:46] <sheldor> has*
[13:47] <zorin> I need man in the middle help **  running zorin 7  "Ubuntu Based Distro" and trying to preform mitm attack/ ssl stripping ** (on my own wireless and connected devices) using SSLSTRIP and ETTERCAP --  ettercap lets traffic threw and shows passwords but not before displaying "untrusted site warning "  I thought using sllstrip would fix this but its not working
[13:47] <jelle_s> how do i enable a usb passthrough? or where do i activate this?
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> zorin  zorin os is not supported her
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> here*
[13:49] <WolfPete> when I do  dmesg | grep usb-audio  I see snd-usb-audio: probe of 5-1.3:1.0 failed with error -5
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> zorin  type /join #zorinos
[13:49] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, click on the VM you want, then on settings ...
[13:50] <TipTop> my lightdm launches notion wm instead of the full gnome stuff. and while in notion, i have no sound available. is there a deamon to launch by hand to enable sound?
[13:51] <WolfPete> will now try a system reboot
 , i already enabled the usb controller and ehci controller, but a passthrough option is npwhere to be found in those settings...
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> jelle_s  type cf and then hit tab
[13:54] <cfhowlett> jelle_s, that's where I thought I remembered it being.  sadly, I've now removed all active VM's so ... ask someone else?
[13:56] <WolfPete> still had no luck with my usb audio
[13:58] <WolfPete> Okay I may had some luck
[13:59] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. Cmedia claims the OS has the driver embedded and should be listed in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:59] <WolfPete> I edited /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, and set options snd-usb-audio index=3, now I see it in alsamixer, but when I try and hit [Enter] on the device selection, alsamixer freezez
[14:01] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: alsamixer exists with "cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument"
[14:01] <BluesKaj> WolfPete.  that usb line should be index=0
[14:01] <claudia_> Hi all, my problem: want to install ubuntu or kubuntu 13.10 on an very new hp pavilion with gfxcard amd radeon 8240, uefi secure boot and GPT. Wubi installed grub for DVD but I can't install Ubuntu because I get no grafic. I could install kubuntu 12.04 on sda6 but can not boot into it and I cannot make a boot-repair without grafic. How can I run boot repair in konsole with grafic?
[14:01] <guru_shipu> brightness keys are not working on a sony vaio laptop. Please help
[14:01] <BluesKaj> to make it default
[14:01] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. ^
[14:01] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: when I set it to 0, my device is not listed under devices in alsamixer.
[14:02] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. ok , is the default audio device in your BIOS set to the Cmedia / USB device ?
[14:02] <claudia_> or on konsole without grafic?
[14:02] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I'm afraid I did not see my usb soundcard listed in the BIOS.
[14:03] <BluesKaj> so it's probly set to auto then , WolfPete
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> claudia_: did you disable secure boot from bios?
[14:03] <claudia_> yes
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> claudia_: and you see no ubuntu setup screen?
[14:04] <claudia_> not on 13.10, on 12.04 I could install on sda6
[14:05] <claudia_> perhaps 12.04 was using vesa?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> ok WolfPete, sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio in the terminal , if there's no output the driver loaded properly
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> claudia_: wubi doesnt work for 13.10 i think, maybe try another way to write to usb
[14:05] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: BluesKaj, I thank you for your help! I have been able to sort it out by plugging the soundcard in a different usb port. The thing that got me thinking was that alsamixer froze whenever i tried to configure my soundcard.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> you probly need to reboot if it loaded ok , WolfPete
[14:05] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: It does work now.
[14:05] <lotuspsychje> !usb | claudia_
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ok but run the command anyway, WolfPete
[14:06] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: Just a second.
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> claudia_: maybe thats why you dont see setup screen?
[14:06] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: I does not list anything.
[14:07] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. good , that's what it's supposed to do , no errors
[14:07] <fs1> Can anyone explain me why when I boot netinstall and chose "Continue without bootloader" it boots into a grub prompt after installation.. does WITHOUT BOOTLOADER not mean that I DO NOT WANT THAT GRUB CRAP?
[14:07] <WolfPete> BluesKaj: Thank you very much :)
[14:07] <lotuspsychje> !language | fs1
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> !netinstall | fs1
[14:09] <claudia_> I read amd radeon 8240 is only supported with newest driver from amd. There is an installation instruction on the web but you have to install ubuntu first. Can the usb stick use this gfxcard?
[14:11] <paulo_> where is the trash folder in ubuntu?
[14:11] <compdoc> paulo_, might be in lost+found, or in the user's directory
[14:12] <fs1> It's hidden, the trash folder :O
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> claudia_: you should atleast be able to install ubuntu setup on any card
[14:12] <fs1> No, but the trash folder is in the file manager on the side?
[14:12] <fs1> if you use gnome
[14:12] <fs1> or unity
[14:12] <phong_> guys, i mount office 2007, how to give permision to setup.exe
[14:12] <phong_> it doesn't allow me
[14:13] <phong_> i do a right click on setup.exe i try to change permision. but it can't
[14:13] <fs1> office on linux???
[14:13] <phong_> yes
[14:13] <phong_> using WINE
[14:13] <fs1> using Wine or what?
[14:13] <fs1> ok
[14:13] <phong_> i mount the .iso file
[14:13] <compdoc> paulo_, something like /home/user/.local/share/trash
[14:13] <claudia_> Okay will try that thanx
[14:13] <phong_> or do i have to copy it to somewhere...since mounting iso can't do modification?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> phong_: you can install ms office with playonlinux
[14:14] <hisham> fsl : sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[14:14] <krux> i used playonlinux
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> !wine
[14:14] <phong_> how to install playonlinux in command then?
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | phong_
[14:15] <hisham> phong_ : apt-get install playonlinux
[14:17] <phong_> hisham, i did that, now where does it install ? how to run it?
[14:17] <adamu> Hello
[14:17] <fs1> Ok, gonna try ubiquity --no-bootloader. from a live usb
[14:18] <OerHeks> phong_, there is a wiki >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayOnLinux#A.22Initialise.22_PlayOnLinux
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> phong_: it should create an icon aswell
[14:20] <BluesKaj> WolfPete. glad you have it working :)
[14:23] <phong_> It said:  PlayOnLinux cannot find curl(from cURL)
[14:23] <phong_> i am missing something here
[14:24] <inyourface09> R.I.P Paul Walker
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> !info curl
[14:24] <hisham> how to install beaut themes in linux please :*
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> phong_: sudo apt-get install curl
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> !themes | hisham
[14:26] <hisham> thanks
[14:29] <ztealmax> evening all
[14:29] <adamu> hello
[14:32] <urielvigilant> I have a full disk 80GB with Lubuntu, but only a few Gb used. I have reduced the disk and left 40 GB emppty and not allocated, the i tryed to install Vista, but Vista dont want to install, it says the disk has no condition to it ?  ? ?
[14:32] <urielvigilant> I used the tools on windows vista install, to format that partition and alocated it , but it still says it have no conditions to install .
[14:33] <urielvigilant> Dont tell me i have to install Vista first and then Lubuntu ?
[14:33] <_Trullo> why would you install vista? the crappiest microsoft os ever
[14:36] <urielvigilant> because my computer come with it 7 years almost . I think it run faster then 7 or upper, with celeron  m 440 and GMA 950 graphic card doesn  it ? I want to install because after many and many reasearch, iam still not able to play OnLive games, under PlayonLinux with the correct wine and make the Joystick work, the joystick simplpy dont work.
[14:37] <urielvigilant> The joystick work with Lubuntu, because the tool to calibrate reconigze it .
[14:37] <urielvigilant> Its Windows Vista Basic, a better versions then other Vistas . . .
[14:37] <urielvigilant> lolol
[14:38] <urielvigilant> Nothink better then Lubuntu 13.10 thatś a reallity, it make this Laptop like a Ferrari Turbo. . . that is the true.
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: plz use ##windows for vista talk
[14:39] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje . was our friend _TRullo who started , but i think my question to talk about Vista have some reason to be putted here or dont ?
[14:39] <Kihokki> juuh okei
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: we can help you setup lubuntu..not installing vista
[14:41] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : please could you test for me if you are able to play OnLive games with a joystick under PlayonLinux platform with Wine 1.5.x setup with with windows 7 for example ?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: depends if your joystick needs ubuntu drivers to work, did the joystick ever work for ubuntu games?
[14:45] <Robbiecano> hi!
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> Robbiecano: welcome, what can we do for you mate?
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : i can make the buttons moving with the test tools like jstest-gtk . . . but i never tryed it in lubuntu games . . . only in Onlive under playonlinux
[14:46] <CookieM> Robbiecano hello
[14:46] <bcuda_> Why would a listed program be found as a 'No such file or directory' - especially if 'ls' finds it, it is clearly shown in the file manager (whatever unity uses), and tab autocompletes? (12.04lts)
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : i can make the buttons moving with the test tools like jstest-gtk . . . but i never tryed it in lubuntu games . . . only in Onlive under playonlinux
[14:46] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje : how to install drivers for it on linux ?
[14:46] <Robbiecano> can someone tell me why i cant install windows apps on ubuntu
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: try your joystick on an ubuntu game first, see if it works there
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Robbiecano: what are you trying to install?
[14:47] <Robbiecano> battlefield 4
[14:47] <enrico__> hi guys, I have an issue with an USB mixer wich worked like a charm on win7
[14:47] <Robbiecano> but it wont open
[14:47] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  tell me a light one please to test ,
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | Robbiecano
[14:47] <Robbiecano> and also my penis is stuck in my budwieser how can i get it out?
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> urielvigilant: tux racer :p
[14:47] <enrico__> In sound settings ---> Output I can't see it
[14:48] <Robbiecano> !ops | help me get my penis out of my 40oz beer
[14:48] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  ok i will do it now .
[14:48] <Robbiecano> !staff
[14:50] <bcuda_> Hi. anyone have any ideas about my question?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: what program are we talking about mate?
[14:51] <bcuda_> a cuda compiled program, but I have seen it happen with other stuff
[14:52] <bcuda_> lotuspsychje: ^
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: what exactly you wanna do? run it?
[14:52] <bcuda_> I am not concerned with it not running as much as bash not finding it.
[14:53] <bcuda_> lotuspsychje:  especially if the file manager sees it as does ls
[14:54] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  the joystick work right and left  i think it work . . .
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: not sure mate sorry
[14:55] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  button N also make it shake the wings
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> bcuda_: maybe specify in channel, how you installed it and what this package does..
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out for dinner
[14:56] <urielvigilant> lotuspsychje :  Bon Appettite !  !
[15:01] <ovrflw0x> http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:01] <ovrflw0x> what to do now?
[15:02] <bcuda_> I have another question: how do I enable GLX to run on my screen?
[15:06] <bcuda_> http://pastebin.com/7LpsvmYA
[15:06] <claudia> Hi all, I posted my problem 1 hour ago: HP Pavilion, AMD Radion 8240 grafic card, UEfi secure boot deactivated, GPT, now also trial of installation via USB stick with kubuntu-13.10 failed. I see the kubuntu grafic on the screen for some time, than a short flash with konsole messages and after that  a black screen. Nothing else for some time now.
[15:07] <bcuda_> claudia: function key plus brighter button (up on my laptop)
[15:07] <bcuda_> try that
[15:08] <claudia> no reaction, still black screen, light on power is on
[15:09] <claudia> I cannot change to konsole on CRTL-ALT-F1 or something
[15:10] <justaguy> i have the most idiotic problem ever with ubuntu, i have a plantronics 626 DSP headset and when i press the off button for my microphone, my touchpad left mouse doesn't work anymore...
[15:14] <bcuda_> justaguy: sounds like something is referencing a location in a list and and when your microphone disconnects, the list location should be updated. other than that, no idea.
[15:15] <bcuda_> claudia: increasing the brightness fails? what model number is your HP?
[15:16] <Eli-5dce> Hello
[15:16] <Foxhoundz> where is the php.ini stored?
[15:16] <Foxhoundz> I tried /etc/php5 but nothing seems to be there
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> wait
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> is conf.d the ini file for php?
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> or the directory
[15:17] <Foxhoundz> rather
[15:17] <claudia> No model number on the back, have to check the bill
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> Hi there Im running ubuntu 13.10 ubuntu boots and loads up the login screen when loading the login screen the screen flikers but then sorts out after 2 seconds i then login once logged inb the background is black and only my cursor is shown no wallpapper / unity / icons / top bar ect ect is shown i tried using ctrl alt T to get up terminal but that didnt work i then went into the root terminal in recoveryh mode to try and remove r
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> but this did not work
[15:18] <EpixP0ison> can anybody help
[15:22] <EpixP0ison> Anybody?
[15:24] <bcuda_> EpixP0ison: try increasing the screen brightness of the laptop with the functionkey+whateverisforyourlaptop
[15:24] <EpixP0ison> that isnt the issue
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> its a desktop and the brightnes sis fine
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> pyopencl is what i belived caused the issue
[15:25] <EpixP0ison> the displays are perfect
[15:25] <claudia> bcuda_: HP Pavilion 17 Notebook PC
[15:26] <claudia> BIOS Konfiguration: F17-08/07/2013
[15:26] <Maddeth> Hey guys, anyone able to help with a 7z issue?
[15:26] <bcuda_> Hi anyone here know how to get an NVIDIA755M to work right under linux? apparently it doesn't know how to use GLX or display at :0.
[15:27] <claudia> bcuda_:  AMD E1-2500 APU with Radeon (TM) HD Graphics
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> how about i rephrase my question
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> how can i remove a package via the recorvry mode
[15:28] <EpixP0ison> apt-get remove does not work
[15:30] <bcuda_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[15:31] <IdleOne> !nomodeset | bcuda_
[15:32] <EpixP0ison> as i said
[15:32] <EpixP0ison> login screen is fine
[15:33] <EpixP0ison> this is for if even the login dosnt show
[15:34] <vicky> hi all. Why custom udev rules not working in ubuntu 12.04? I am writing a rule for usb to serial modem.
[15:35] <vicky> but nt at at all running. I tested with udev monitor. It is not loading.
[15:35] <vicky> Is it a known issue?
[15:36] <bekks> vicky: Most likely your udev rule is just broken.
[15:37] <vicky> bekks: I tested so many  examples also. but nothing works.
[15:37] <Maddeth> having an issue encrypting a file using 7z with a £ in the password, I have tried escaping it but it still fails
[15:38] <Maddeth> current encoding should see the symbol, so not sure why it wouldn't work, also to add, It can extract using the password, just not compress
[15:38] <vicky> i followed a latest udev rule article from http://www.crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Udev. But no use.
[15:38] <adamu> Goodbye Everyone Has a Nice Day
[15:38] <bcuda_> bekks or IdleOne: any idea how to get a nvidia 755M to display GLX programs?
[15:39] <vicky> Really some problem with udev in ubuntu 12.04
[15:39] <bekks> bcuda_: By installing the latest nvidia drivers from the official ubuntu repos.
[15:39] <arpad2> I'm getting error message after 'optirun steam' http://paste.ubuntu.com/6504689/
[15:39] <bekks> vicky: We cant help you without seeing the rule.
[15:39] <marlo__> i'm ssh to a remote machine and keep getting kicked 'broken pipe' after a period of no activity... google has revealed little useful solutions
[15:39] <vicky> wait a minute.
[15:39] <bcuda_> bekks: 12.04 LTS says no updates available
[15:40] <bekks> bcuda_: Well, we dont know which driver you have installed.
[15:40] <bcuda_> how can I get youo that information?
[15:40] <bekks> bcuda_: And we dont know wether you have a specific problem with your graphics or not.
[15:40] <bcuda_> glxgears fails
[15:41] <bekks> !nvidia | bcuda_
[15:41] <vicky> bekks: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="tty", KERNEL=="ttyUSB*", ATTR{idVendor}=="19d2", ATTR{idProduct}=="fff1", RUN+="/usr/bin/wvdial mts"
[15:41] <Danato> bekks: can you assist me with this last comment? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[15:41] <Danato> bekks: so according to him the kernel shouldnt work after that command. And idk how to revert it afterwards
[15:42] <Maddeth> no-one?
[15:42] <bekks> Danato: then ask him please ;)
[15:42] <bcuda_> http://pastebin.com/PC7R33YT
[15:43] <Danato> bekks: i thought it would be faster if I just asked here
[15:44] <thogan> I have changed my interface configuration to static ip addresses and now I get "Waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration..." on boot-up.  Any ideas what is causing this?  All of my interfaces are correct and working when the system completes the boo process.
[15:44] <SrPx> What is the best notebook you can buy today to run Ubuntu in, regardless of price?
[15:44] <xangua> !hardware | SrPx
[15:45] <Maddeth> thogan: what does you /etc/network/interfaces look like?
[15:45] <SrPx> xangua: Thanks but this does not answer my question!
[15:45] <thogan> Maddeth: how should I show you? Pastebin link or cut and paste here?
[15:46] <xangua> SrPx: your question might be better fir for #hardware or something
[15:46] <Maddeth> pastebin thogan
[15:46] <Maddeth> oy uoi can pm me thogan
 stay away from Nvidia Optimus
[15:46] <Maddeth> or you*
[15:47] <bcuda_> bekks: pastebin.com/E7RvVCr3 is the output
[15:47] <AshishL> MonkeyDust : i have pinged google  . it shows ping unknown host : www.google.com
[15:48] <bekks> bcuda_: Thats an Nvidia Optimus System, isnt it?
[15:48] <thogan> Maddeth: Brace yourself :) http://pastebin.com/5e3ns3HR
[15:49] <bcuda_> not sure, its a Nvidia 755M, I know that
[15:49] <bekks> bcuda_: And and Intel, in addition.
[15:50] <impradeepy> teamviewer ailternatives for ubuntu??
[15:50] <bekks> impradeepy: nxclient, or vnc over ssh.
[15:50] <impradeepy> ok thanks
[15:51] <impradeepy> will it connect with windows?
[15:51] <Maddeth> thogan: is this a firewall?
[15:51] <AshishL> i have problem connecting to the internet in ubuntu . it shows wired connection connected but when i open firefox it shows server not found . i tried to ping google and result = unknown host : google.com
[15:51] <bekks> impradeepy: Both use a different concept than Windows does.
[15:52] <yeats> AshishL: how about 'ping 74.125.21.138'? does that work?
[15:52] <impradeepy> i have to connect remote windows os to ubuntu
[15:53] <bekks> impradeepy: from windows to ubuntu?
[15:53] <impradeepy> bekks: ubuntu to windows
[15:54] <bekks> impradeepy: rdesktop
[15:54] <impradeepy> ok i ll install now ty :)
[15:55] <urielvigilant> In Lubuntu 13.10   Lubutu aplications center, when searching Games and then clicking in "Information" , we are not able to see the games informations nether none app informations at all !
[15:56] <wolfspy> hello!
[15:56] <mjayk> hi
[16:03] <AshishL> yeats : same result . hey i have ifconfig result . can you see it . ( ill send it to you via email as i am using windows and its a libre file )
[16:03] <yeats> !pastebin | AshishL
[16:05] <estudiante> Hola
[16:06] <AshishL> yeats : how to paste libre files ?
[16:08] <kwang-py1> ls
[16:09] <kwang-py1> exit
[16:10] <estudiante> Is leguaje in inglis ou is shpanis
[16:10] <estudiante> ??
[16:10] <wolfspy> ingles
[16:10] <wolfspy> inglis*
[16:11] <urielvigilant> Hola estudiante quieres ayuda ?
[16:11] <urielvigilant> no hablas engles ?
[16:13] <estudiante> Como mierda es esto ??
[16:13] <bekks> !english | estudiante
[16:15] <jhutchins> !pt
[16:16] <xangua> happy customer
[16:17] <urielvigilant> some one here live UK ?
[16:18] <xangua> !anyone | urielvigilant
[16:20] <akhil_> Hi everyone , how do I access file in a guest session from another user account?
[16:21] <urielvigilant> xangua : thanks
[16:21] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : go to a little gear shaped button in the right top corner and click switch user
[16:21] <ben_xyzzy> Can anybody explain how the following works (it takes password entry and puts it into the stdin of another script (somehow): http://ideone.com/LK3IPt
[16:22] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: but I want to access it from another account.
[16:22] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : you mean as in remote or from the same computer?
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: same
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: without swtiching user
[16:23] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : logoff and do it?
[16:23] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: for instance the guest user's home folder and files.
[16:24] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: without loggin off or switching accounts, like mount the user's home folder or something?
[16:24] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : oh then if you are a admin I think you can access it from your files... That might only be a windows thing though
[16:25] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: yes I have sudo access.
[16:25] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ : then use that to get to the files and user
[16:26] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: yes but where are they mounted?
[16:27] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: I mean access from which path:?
[16:27] <Eli-5dce> akhil_ what is your file name? For your user account
[16:27] <akhil_> Eli-5dce: there are just 2 folders in home, mine and lost+found
[16:27] <akhil_> /home/
[16:28] <Eli-5dce> akhil_: you should switch user and see what the home file name is
[16:29] <urielvigilant> Anyone from uk, could buy me a Onlive GAmes monthly pass ? I give all you need to buy the pass and i have a gift for you too !
[16:30] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: can you help me with something again?
[16:31] <CiSense> hi i made a boot-repair and now I have 13.04 back, but I have no dash ... how can i fix this?
[16:31] <_root_> I am on a windows machine and I have a linux server and a putty ;; how could a tunnel my firefox or other internet connection through that server?
[16:33] <SASDOE> _root_: ssh -ND <port_num> user@machine
[16:33] <BluesKaj_> set up a vpn server on your server, root
[16:33] <SASDOE> _root_: then in firefox for example, conenction, proxy, socks, host : localhost, port <port_num>
[16:33] <geirha> !ics | _root_
[16:33] <_root_> BluesKaj_: I want something easy and i am in hurry
[16:34] <SASDOE> _root_: do what I told you to do then.
[16:37] <_root_> SASDOE: How; i putty I can set IP and port and then I connect to the server it asks me for passs and then I am at my server's command line. where could I enter the command
[16:37] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: what seems to be the problem?
[16:38] <MtrPanda> folks
[16:38] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: the same person told me to run a command, that will supposedly will make the kernel fail, and I wouldnt know how to revert it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1250051
[16:38] <MtrPanda> how do I get sound to play? using mate front end?
[16:40] <dblack_> whoops, i've broken down in the middle of a 13.10 upgrade
[16:40] <dblack_> i think i just bricked my computer
[16:41] <Eli-5dce_busy> Lenovo is not a good brand of computer's, some people might think otherwise....
[16:41] <dblack_> the upgrade box went gray and there's some python-related error message
[16:41] <dblack_> does anyone know a way to salvage such a situation?
[16:42]  * dblack_ should have been content with 13.04 :-(
[16:42] <MtrPanda> how can i get sound to work ?
[16:43] <xangua> MtrPanda: mate is not supported here
[16:43] <urielvigilant> Lubuntu 13.10 dont run on acer 3003 wmli with 1gb ram ?  Should i try 12.04 instead ?
[16:44] <MtrPanda> thanks xangua  but no reason for sound not to work
[16:44] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: looks like its a case of building the kernel. its effectively the same as you've already done, its just you're building a kernel instead of installing a precompiled one. if it fails it will again be the case of finding the older kernel in the grub menu, booting that, then purging this kernel
[16:44] <urielvigilant> I think its'graphic car or something but i dont have sure ! What could be ?
[16:45] <CiSense> 13.04 boots ok but unity does not start
[16:46] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: are you able to open a terminal with ctrl + alt + t ?
[16:46] <Megabyte> Hi guys
[16:47] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, yes
[16:47] <Megabyte> I got a bad ram stick, and it crashed mc while I was installing it.
[16:47] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: so isnt it better to install another kernel and run that command on top of it? that way i could uninstall the affected and all would be good
[16:47] <Megabyte> Now, whenever I reinstall it, I get a corrupted installation (default theme won't install)
[16:47] <Megabyte> how do I fix this?
[16:47] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: try resetting unity: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[16:47] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO,  thanks .. reading
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: its not going to change your exising kernel, it will compile and build a new some. the only thing tho is that it might take a while
[16:49] <wolfspy> I have 60 tabs open in firefox...
[16:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: aah ok. So i can purge it afterwards the same way i was doing with the others right?
[16:49] <hitsujiTMO> Danato: yup
[16:49] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: and how would I know its file names so I could purge them?
[16:51] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, before i could reset  i got unexpected error and it locked up :(
[16:51] <dblack_> well, the system seems to think it's 13.10 even though the upgrade broke down midway
[16:52] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, earlier i did a boot-repair
[16:53] <tracer71> Hy
[16:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: I guess one way to know that would be knowing where are the kernels files stored
[16:54] <user01_> .
[16:56] <LtRipley> hi
[16:56] <LtRipley> how do i findout which config setting is responsible for starting jackdbus on startup and how do i change it?
[16:57] <_root_> SASDOE:  what is the switch for the remote server port in your command
[16:57] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: nvm, i think I found a way. thanks
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[17:00] <LtRipley> is there any way of controlling which daemons are started at startup, sometimes i am surprised what is running on my computer
[17:00] <LtRipley> i feel like i have no influence on those things
[17:00] <usrnix> Hi, is there a netbook edition still?
[17:01] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Look at the 'services' command I think.
[17:02] <rallosvan> LtRipley: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/service.8.html
[17:02] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Read the docs there, they give the location of the startup scripts
[17:03] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i thought there were some ubuntu specific tools in place that maintain those entries
[17:04] <hitsujiTMO> CiSense: what was the error you got?
[17:05] <SASDOE> _root_: say what?
[17:05] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I can't help with GUI tools. But the information there will let you do it from a terminal and text editor.
[17:05] <_root_> SASDOE: thanks I found it
[17:06] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i didn't ask for gui tools
[17:06] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: what services are you trying to stop running at startup?
[17:07] <LtRipley> my question was whether there is a ubuntu specific tooling in place that manages that kind of configs automatically, when installing packages with apt-get
[17:07] <LtRipley> hitsujiTMO: jackdbus
[17:07] <bekks> !upstart | LtRipley
[17:08] <rallosvan> he already knows it runs upstart as he read the man page for service; if the user doesnt read docs, nothing I can do.
[17:09] <LtRipley> bekks: at no point ever i changed init or upstart to autorun those services, it seems the wrong place to me now to directly change the settings there
[17:09] <phong_> how to install directx in WINE?
[17:09] <rallosvan> seems?
[17:09] <yeats> dblack_: did you backup your data before beginning the upgrade?
[17:10] <LtRipley> rallosvan: yes, thats why i ask
[17:10] <bekks> LtRipley: Well, if you want to configure upstart, configure it. Dont look out for a shiny gui toopl doing exactly that. :)
[17:10] <rallosvan> LtRipley: the installers do a lot behind your back - upstart is the way the OS does it, and what they all end up calling somehow
[17:11] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i know that, that is why i am asking whether there is a solution on the same abstraction level the installers work on
[17:11] <LtRipley> i don't want to mess with some settings and the next time i use the installers they choke on it
[17:11] <phong_> anyone know how to install directx in wine?
[17:11] <LtRipley> (or just overwrite my changes)
[17:12] <subz3r0> phong_: use winetricks OR playonlinux(would prefer this solution)
[17:12] <yeats> phong_: /join #winehq
[17:12] <LtRipley> rallosvan: it is not that i am fail to read the manpage, it is just that my experience with linux tells me that i don't want to change that that deep
[17:12] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: the installers don't work on any abstraction layer. they directly write those upstart/sys v scripts
[17:12] <Megabyte> How do I grant Wine writing permissions to a directory I've protected read-only?
[17:12] <bekks> LtRipley: the installers will always overwrite your settings like: if you disable apache, and update apache, and the installer is set to activate apache again, it will do so.
[17:12] <LtRipley> hitsujiTMO: and they have no "undo"?
[17:12] <Megabyte> (NTFS usb drive)
[17:13] <hitsujiTMO> LtRipley: no undo
[17:13] <LtRipley> ok thanks
[17:14] <rallosvan> LtRipley: if you google very hard you might be able to find a gui tool for upstart, but I will say most folk here would just edit the files and be done with it
[17:14] <yeats> LtRipley: upstart isn't that deep (IMHO)
[17:16] <axizor> hey guys I know im in the wrong channel, but anyone running a utorrent server here?
[17:16] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I am not taking the mickey, but reading manpages is part of the Ubnutu experience no matter what Mr Shuttleworth says about making it all point and click
[17:17] <gordonjcp> point and click isn't really suitable for servers, anyway
[17:17] <gordonjcp> you can't have a GUI on a server
[17:17] <LtRipley> yeats: ok :) i just want to avoid screwing with parts of the config that will totally mess up my system, just to have later people tell me it was my own fault if i changed those settings
[17:17] <gordonjcp> well, you *can*, but it's a horrible user experience
[17:18] <rallosvan> LtRipley: is there any reason you need to disable jackD anyway?
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: and not something people seem to want.
[17:18] <wolfspy> the startup disk creator is stuck at 94% complete
[17:18] <LtRipley> rallosvan: this is not about unwillingness to read manpages, it is just that manpages won't necessarily tell you a lot about the distro's infrastructure
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: thankfully.
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: indeed
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: not even Windows servers have GUIs
[17:18] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: at least not the ones I've seen
[17:18] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: Mac's do. Tried it, loathed it.
[17:19] <rallosvan> LtRipley: it iwll tell you how to disable a service, and you know the name of the serivce. it should not be frightening. but why disable jackd?
[17:19] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: don't think I ever saw a GUI on the Mac servers we had
[17:19] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i am asuming to have multiple instances of jack running, and i am fighting hard to get jack runnign with my usb soun card
[17:19] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: don't have multiple instances of jack running
[17:19] <bazhang>  join #utorrent on irc.p2p-irc.net   axizor
[17:19] <yeats> LtRipley: just create copies of anything you're changing and you're golden
[17:19] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: that's why i want to disable one of them ;)
[17:19] <rallosvan> LtRipley: You only need jackd if you want lag free audio monitoring - is that still the case?
[17:19] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: when was that?
[17:20] <gordonjcp> SASDOE: a few years ago
[17:20] <LtRipley> rallosvan: or use tools that rely on jack
[17:20] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: chances are you haven't got multiple jack servers running
[17:20] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: because that takes a bit of effort
[17:20] <SASDOE> gordonjcp: http://www.apple.com/osx/server/
[17:21] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: if you are entirely new to Linux and want proper jack audio *and* the ease-of-use you get from Ubuntu, look into kxstudio
[17:21] <rallosvan> LtRipley: btw what are you doing and which programs are you using?
[17:21] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: yes, you might be right. All i know is that there is an instance of jackdbus running and jack_control says it is not running
[17:21] <LtRipley> rallosvan: ardour is my main point of interest now, but it is not about ardour
[17:21] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I would agree with gordonjcp - thre are music specific spins of ubuntu or linux. Proaudio on linux is a bit of a train wreck to setup
[17:22] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i am not entirely new, i just don't mess with configs that often since i have a steady job
[17:22] <phong_> how to check wine version?
[17:22] <CiSense> hitsujiTMO, system errors and lockups .. i'm instaling 13.10 now
[17:22] <flugh> wine --version?
[17:23] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i've got the feeling that either way i need to understand what is happening, and audio under ubuntu is annoying me for some time, so i am going the learn the details
[17:23] <phong_> wow i have 1.4.1
[17:23] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i don't think any specific ubuntu version will solve all my problems
[17:23] <phong_> is there a way to upgrade it? i think that is not the latest one
[17:23] <rallosvan> LtRipley: quite a few media distros would have ardour pre configured - it is the most comon DAW on linux
[17:24] <LtRipley> rallosvan: i would bet quite some money that it doesn't run out of the box on my hardware
[17:24] <rallosvan> LtRipley: I am sure there is a channel for adour actualy. Perhaps #ardour?
[17:24] <LtRipley> rallosvan: this is not about ardour, thanks
[17:24] <rallosvan> LtRipley: did you try ubuntustudio?
[17:25] <LtRipley> no
[17:25] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Well to be honest, I don't know what exactly it is about anymore; it has changed with each issue. Whatever you're trying to do, I wish you good luck with it.
[17:25] <LtRipley> rallosvan: thanks
[17:26] <rallosvan> LtRipley: However when you work out exactly what you want to do, we're here to answer that specific question
[17:26] <LtRipley> rallosvan: you answered my questions already
[17:27] <LtRipley> the rest of the conversation was about you making me justifying what i want to do :)
[17:27] <aPpYe> I am building a KDE system from Ubuntu mini 13.10.  I have apt-get's Install-Recommends feature disabled.  If I build the system WITH recommends, everything is fine.  If I build WITHOUT, the Languages tab under Locale in System Settings is stuck with a progress meter that hangs at 0% forever.
[17:27] <aPpYe> Linked…  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505158/  ...is a list of packages (what would come with Install-Recommends enabled) that fixes the issue.  I am having a really hard time figuring out what package(s) from this list are required for the Language tab to work correctly.
[17:28] <rallosvan> LtRipley: Not justify, just your use case was unusual enough so have to make sure it wasn't an XY question.
[17:29] <LtRipley> rallosvan: whatever that is :)
[17:29] <bcuda_> How do you reset all nvidia settings / packages to what a fresh install would have?
[17:29] <bcuda_> or do I have to re install ubuntu12.04 over itself?
[17:30] <Mitizaro> Helllllo thereee!!
[17:30] <adamu> bcuda_, blacklist the nvidia kernel module and unblacklist nouveau (if you did blacklist nouveau) then remove the config file nvidia-xconfig generated and it should be gone
[17:30] <Mitizaro> Can i be proposed a good Ubuntu distro for FULL FLASH support (considering my PC is strong, but old -- 2,4GHZ, 1,3GB Ram and Nvidia 5900)
[17:31] <ikonia> Mitizaro: flash is dead on linux
[17:31] <rallosvan> LtRipley: You're OK. But sometimes user wants to do Y, thinks X is the best way to do Y, and asks how to do X, not Y.
[17:31] <bcuda_> adamu: any idea how to do that from terminal? I can't startx linux crashes
[17:31] <aPpYe> well ... use chrome
[17:31] <aPpYe> not chromium
[17:31] <aPpYe> pepper flash
[17:31] <bcuda_> complete crash, not little crash
[17:31] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Only google chrome has the latest proprietary flash player. Chromium doens.t
[17:31] <bcuda_> and I've done nothing but use apt-get installer
[17:32] <Mitizaro> i HAVE flash
[17:32] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: so any distro, but use the google-branded chrome browser
[17:32] <Mitizaro> in my vector linux
[17:32] <Mitizaro> oops
[17:32] <adamu> bcuda_, do you have a file in /etc/modprobe.d/ called nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[17:32] <Mitizaro> i have google chrome
[17:32] <Mitizaro> but still cant open basic
[17:32] <FloodBot1> Mitizaro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Mitizaro> flash game
[17:32] <Mitizaro> well some Slackware guy can open what i couldn't (but he also has newer PC)
[17:32] <ikonia> Mitizaro: if you are using vector linux why are you asking in #ubuntu about flash (apologies if I've missed the real meaning of your question)
[17:32] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Flash in google chrome does work, i suspect the problem is elsewhre. What errors do you get, or can you link the site that fails?
[17:33] <bcuda_> adamu: 1 sec, it is rebooting
[17:33] <adamu> bcuda_, alright
[17:35] <phong_> can WINE run any windows softwares?
[17:35] <phong_> or it is limited
[17:35] <ikonia> phong_: exceptionally limited
[17:35] <ikonia> phong_: it is not something you should depend on as a solution
[17:35] <phong_> i c
[17:36] <DJones> phong_: It will run some, but not everything and even the ones it runs, it may not run properly
[17:36] <bcuda_> adamu: there is a lot of stuff in there, but not that one. there are two with nvidia in their name: nvidia-current-hybrid.conf and nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf
[17:36] <rallosvan> phong_: look up specific applications on http://appdb.winehq.org/ - most games work
[17:36] <phong_> oh well..prefer boot up if need to use windows :)
[17:36] <phong_> luckily i have multi os
[17:36] <ikonia> phong_: that's the best solution.
[17:37] <rallosvan> phong_: Which programs in particular?
[17:37] <adamu> bcuda_, Okay can you cat those files and put their contents on paste bin
[17:37] <bcuda_> ugh
[17:37] <bcuda_> how?
[17:38] <bekks> !pastebinit | bcuda_
[17:38] <bcuda_> Its just terminal
[17:38] <bcuda_> oh cool
[17:38] <Mitizaro> Well
[17:38] <Mitizaro> Flash in Google CHrome - i dont even get the plugin in extentsions -- i have chrome 12.0
[17:39] <Mitizaro> i mean -- i get BLACK SCREEN where the game should be
[17:39] <Mitizaro> (youtube runs with html5)
[17:39] <OerHeks> Mitizaro, chrome has its own flash buildin
[17:39] <bekks> Mitizaro: Chrome 12.0 is heavily outdated. the current version is 31.
[17:39] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: chrome 12? it's like up to 31?
[17:39] <wolfspy> lol
[17:39] <ikonia> Mitizaro: if you are using vector linux why are you asking in #ubuntu about flash (apologies if I've missed the real meaning of your question)
[17:39] <Mitizaro> i was interested in a good ubuntu for the purpose u know..
[17:39] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: your problem is chrome 12 not your distro
[17:39] <wolfspy> mabye bacause this channel has almost 2000 people in ti
[17:39] <wolfspy> it
[17:39] <ikonia> flash as an external package is dead though
[17:40] <wolfspy> I would update your chrome
[17:40] <ikonia> wolfspy: the number of people doesn't really matter, as we only deal with ubuntu here,
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i cant
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i mean i dunno how
[17:40] <Mitizaro> here its harder -- the official channel doesnt have newer version
[17:40] <adamu> I find the best way to install flash is to just download the tar ball from adobe
[17:40] <ikonia> adamu: no it's not, as that is "dead"
[17:40] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: download the current version from google to get the newest chrome.
[17:40] <adamu> ikonia, Oh it is?
[17:40] <Mitizaro> i did - i dunno how to install the tar.gz here in VLIN
[17:40] <leelondon> hi guys
[17:40] <wolfspy> ikonia:  on the support channel for his distro there may be no people active, but in this room people are always active
[17:40] <ikonia> adamu: yes, adobe stopped developing it in 2011
[17:41] <Mitizaro> and its CHROMIUM 31
[17:41] <adamu> ikonia, Oh.. Good to know :/
[17:41] <ikonia> wolfspy: so ? that doesn't mean this channel supports his distro
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: Well that's a problem for your distro ... can't help there
[17:41] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:41] <Mitizaro> still - what is the best ubuntu
[17:41] <thai-2012> hello everyone! who can advice,... i need internet-radio player for Ubuntu
[17:41] <Mitizaro> for my specs?
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: chromium is NOT chrome
[17:41] <bekks> Mitizaro: We dont know your specs.
[17:41] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:41] <leelondon> hi guys
[17:41] <Mitizaro> 2,4 ghz 1.3gb ddr 2
[17:41] <Mitizaro> nvidia 5900
[17:41] <wolfspy> ikonia: yes but that may be why he is the channel, for help with a linux applacation and not the actuall os
[17:41] <leelondon> any latest news for ubuntu
[17:41] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: 1.3GB?
[17:41] <ikonia> Mitizaro: there is no "best ubuntu for flah" - it's dead
[17:42] <Mitizaro> ram
[17:42] <ikonia> wolfspy: again - we don't deal with specific applications for his distro
[17:42] <Beldar> thai-2012, rhythmbox plays radio links
[17:42] <rallosvan> how do you have 1.3GB of ram?
[17:42] <Mitizaro> well
[17:42] <adamu> Anyone tried running flash with pipelight?
[17:42] <leelondon> i have 4.0 G r
[17:42] <Mitizaro> 512 chipset x 2 and one 256
[17:42] <Mitizaro> :D
[17:42] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:42] <Mitizaro> its weird but i have 3 slots
[17:43] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: yea you're OK, don't mind me
[17:43] <bekks> Mitizaro: Can you sum up your specs in one line please instead spreading them over ten lines?
[17:43] <thai-2012> Beldar yes i use rhythmbox. but there is 10-20 radio-stations. small. I need 1000+ radio stations in player.  help?
[17:44] <Mitizaro> AMD 2,4 GHZ (clocked to match 2,6GHZ) 1,3GB RAM DDR2,  Nvidia FX5900GT, 80gb HDD, Creative SoundBlaster LIVE! 5.1 -- 11 year old PC
[17:44] <bekks> Mitizaro: Then you could use lubuntu e.g.
[17:44] <Beldar> thai-2012, Not sure there is one myself.
[17:44] <Mitizaro> I used to have lubuntu and Xubuntu, but... games/media seemed kinda pfuked up
[17:44] <Mitizaro> for example if i want to put HON
[17:44] <ikonia> Mitizaro: control the language please, there is no need to try to swear
[17:45] <Mitizaro> the nvidia drivers and etc is hard deal..
[17:45] <bekks> Mitizaro: Then get more recent hardware.
[17:45] <Beldar> thai-2012, you can add to rhythmbox however.
[17:45] <bcuda_> adamu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505273/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505270/
[17:45] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: I have a 5.1 --- it was better for me for recordign from my guitar; the newer cards were introducing audiolag due to drivers and I didnt see the point in buying a new sound card
[17:45] <Mitizaro> yea -- sound blaster rocks
[17:45] <Mitizaro> but the rest is quite old, i know -- if i could i WOULD be with quadriple AMD already ;)
[17:45] <thai-2012> Beldar thank you.
[17:45] <leelondon> any body use emacs?
[17:45] <bekks> !anyone | leelondon
[17:46] <adamu> bcuda_,  hey.. it looks like your best bet is going to be to remove the nvidia*.conf files in /etc/modprobe.d then delete the file generated by the nvidia-xconfig (/etc/X11/xorg.conf) then sudo rmmod nvidiaand reboot then try startx
[17:46] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: well there's nothing wrong with your system specs; your flash problem is related to your software stack
[17:46] <Mitizaro> i know
[17:46] <Mitizaro> but i was considering running wine and LOL or Heroes of Newerth -- so the most "gamey" OS is best -- Ubuntu and Mint come first to mind
[17:46] <Mitizaro> and i dunno if 10.04 is good, 10.10, 12.04... etc.
[17:47] <bekks> Mitizaro: 10.04 desktop is not supported anymore, if in doubt, use 12.04
[17:47] <rallosvan> Mitizaro: is HON still alive?
[17:47] <Mitizaro> yes
[17:47] <Mitizaro> heroes of newerth is linux based and still alive
[17:47] <rallosvan> wow
[17:47] <rallosvan> i went from hon to dota
[17:47] <rallosvan> well dots2
[17:47] <rallosvan> it's nice to know HON still lives
[17:48] <aPpYe> Mitizaro, you need CHROME, not chromium.
[17:48] <Mitizaro> but too heavy a system - would be a problem... or if i cant run the graphics that wouldnt be nice to
[17:48] <Beldar> Mitizaro, Your just chatting this is support, there are actually people asking for that.
[17:48] <Mitizaro> ...
[17:49] <jmgk> hi all
[17:49] <wolfspy> hi
[17:49] <Ashva> Hi, when I want to install some packages I get this Error: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6. I'm using ubuntu 12.04  64bit but it seems libc6:i386 is installed and now I can not install any package. can some one help me on this?
[17:51] <marko-_-> how do i change the touchpad function for scrolling so it's not upside-down (when scrolling up the page does down, i want it when scrolling up that the page goes up)
[17:51] <adamu> bcuda_, any luck yet?
[17:51] <rallosvan> marko-_-: theres a checkbox in the mouse configuration
[17:51] <marko-_-> There are more, but not like this
[17:51] <marko-_-> i only have 2 finger slide and normal slide
[17:52] <marko-_-> normal slide is this what i just described
[17:52] <LtRipley> re
[17:52] <rallosvan> marko-_-: It's called 'true' or 'reverse', i dont rememer the name
[17:52] <bekks> Ashva: which command are you using?
[17:52] <marko-_-> rallosvan, i don't have a setting like that
[17:52] <imaginati0n> Has anyone tried out ubuntu touch?
[17:53] <jmgk> nope
[17:53] <Ashva> bekks: thanks for reply, apt-get install  [package name]
[17:53] <jmgk> ~touch
[17:53] <jmgk> !touch
[17:53] <rallosvan> marko-_-: OK on 13.10 i have a box called "natural scrolling" that reverses the direction of 2 finger swipe
[17:53] <jmgk> ^ imaginati0n
[17:53] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <bekks> Ashva: apt-get install what....?
[17:53] <Ashva> bekks: apt-get install dialog
[17:53] <marko-_-> rallosvan, yes that's it. Natural scrolling is good, but when scrolling up, the site goes down. Which is weird, i never saw any OS behave like that. I want to make it when scrolling up the site goes up or whatever i'm viewing you know
[17:54] <Ashva> bekks: almost for every package I get thie message at the end
[17:54] <rallosvan> marko-_-: tick/untick that box called 'natural scrolling'
[17:54] <bcuda_> adamu: nope that gives me a nice black screen with no accepted input and highest brightness setting.
[17:54] <marko-_-> lol
[17:54] <marko-_-> rallosvan, thank, didn't occur to me :P
[17:54] <marko-_-> thanks*
[17:54] <bekks> Ashva: Then pastebin an example.
[17:54] <imaginati0n> I am thinking about installing it but i need to know if i can revert back to android?
[17:54] <Danato> hitsujiTMO: do you mind to take a look at this? http://pastebin.com/QC3wYKrY
[17:54] <adamu> bcuda_, so you removed the nvidia-*.conf files and /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:54] <LtRipley> i just rebootet my system after an upgrade to 13.10 and i cannot log into X anymore (i get the login screen and the mouse course moves, but clicking or pressing a key doesn't have an effect)
[17:55] <bcuda_> yes
[17:55] <adamu> bcuda_, what happens when you run startx?
[17:55] <bcuda_> how? I get no interface
[17:55] <Beldar> LtRipley, Are you using proprietary graphic drivers?
[17:56] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, not that i know of
[17:56] <Ashva> bekks: http://dpaste.com/1489338/
[17:56] <Beldar> LtRipley, nvidia perchance
[17:56] <LtRipley> and i got quite a few repetition of errors from systemd-udevd that it failed to execute udev_event
[17:56] <LtRipley> Beldar: i am using an onboard chipset by acer
[17:57] <rallosvan> that;s not graphics: i dont know what it is but it's not graphics driver
[17:57] <Calinou> acer does not make onboard chipsets
[17:57] <Calinou> intel and AMD do IGPs
[17:57] <Calinou> LtRipley, lspci | grep VGA
[17:57] <bekks> Ashva: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/983543
[17:57] <Beldar> LtRipley, You familiar with a nomodeset boot?
[17:57] <LtRipley> yes it is intel
[17:57] <adamu> bcuda_, do cntrl alt f1
[17:57] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, is that something i do in grub?
[17:57] <Beldar> !nomodeset | LtRipley yeah
[17:58] <rallosvan> SiS do onboard graphics as well, we have one old machine with a SiS vga
[17:58] <Calinou> no longer do since at least 10 years
[17:58] <bcuda_> adamu: nothing. but I can verify I get a slightly darker blackscreen if I lower the brightness via fn+down a couple times.
[17:58] <rallosvan> how can he have nomodeset problem if his mouse still responds? never mind, it's worht a try i guess
[17:58] <sarthor> HI, Using linux, I can not see arabic font in a properway. here is image, that shows the problem. Left side is OK. which on windows, Right is wrong which is linux.  http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1-l0CDS5b5.1385920516.png
[17:59] <bob_> .
[17:59] <LtRipley> Beldar: i am not sure that this is about graphics, everything looks fine, just nothing reacts to my input
[18:00] <Beldar> LtRipley, You did not state everything looks good till now?
[18:00] <LtRipley> Beldar: i could try to paste the tail of my dmesg, but it would takes some time, as i don't have X
[18:00] <bekks> LtRipley: dmesg | pastebin
[18:00] <bekks> LtRipley: One single command.
[18:01] <stderr> can someone help me
[18:01] <DUkanax> Hi, using ubuntu 13.10: one of my users has the problem that he can't unlock the screen after lock. when moving the mouse or pressing a key, the screen will come back to background, but then instead of showing the password dialog, it goes right back to black screen. At that point I have to force a reboot. any ideas?
[18:01] <bekks> stderr: Not without asking a specific question before.
[18:01] <rallosvan> sarthor: I don 't know about this, but are you absolutely sure you selected the correct language?
[18:01] <Beldar> stderr, Not without details to the channel.
[18:01] <adamu> bcuda_, Sorry Man - I got to go... If you arn't that deep into your install yet I would recommend reinstalling but if not hopefully someone can help you
[18:02] <adamu> Good bye everyone
[18:02] <stderr> i'm trying to setup a vagrant vm that is 64-bit and requires VT-x, inside a 32bit guest that is already a KVM host
[18:02] <stderr> i mean KVM guest
[18:02] <stderr> and came across this
[18:02] <stderr> VT-x is required to run 64bit guests. If you get that error message it means that the VT-x feature exists on your host, but is currently locked. You need to enable it in your host BIOS or, if that is already done, make sure that nothing else is already using it (e.g. Hyper-v).
[18:02] <LtRipley> bekks: ? i don't have a command called pastebin
[18:02] <stderr> now my question is, thit this KVM guest already hijack this VT-x feature
[18:02] <stderr> ?
[18:03] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats why I wrote pastebinit
[18:03] <sarthor> rallosvan: I am browsing Internet, and some websites are in Arabic language, so my browser can not show me in the right way. While, When I create some .pdf file having arabic text, Also this happen, the fonts not remain in the proper sequence.
[18:03] <Beldar> !pastebinit | LtRipley
[18:03] <bekks> LtRipley: Oh, sorry.I intended to write pastebinit.
[18:03] <rallosvan> stderr: you have a VM inside a VM, and you need the inner one to use 64bit VT-X while the outer one is 32bit?
[18:03] <stderr> exactly
[18:04] <bekks> stderr: thats not possible without using vmware workstation.
[18:04] <rallosvan> stderr: that sound you can hear is me running away :-
[18:04] <rallosvan> sarthor: what language is  your ubuntu set to?
[18:04] <gordonjcp> 17:24 < LtRipley> gordonjcp: i am not entirely new, i just don't mess with  configs that often since i have a steady job
[18:04] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: lolwut
[18:05] <rallosvan> gordonjcp: they frighten him and he believes that only nerds are able to tame them
[18:06] <LtRipley> actually i wrote init scripts from the scratch once, still i preferr not to get in the way of the OS if not necessary
[18:06] <sarthor> I am not exactly getting your questing. but my OS interface is English, While in the bowser there is, in firefox toolbar, view...character encoding---unicode-UTF-8
[18:06] <LtRipley> even without touching it i managed to lock myself out of X  now...
[18:06] <sarthor> rallosvan:
[18:06] <bekks> LtRipley: You should prefer to use the ways the OS is offering to you.
[18:07] <sarthor> let me paste with rallosvan name... I am not exactly getting your questing. but my OS interface is English, While in the bowser there is, in firefox toolbar, view...character encoding---unicode-UTF-8
[18:07] <LtRipley> bekks: isn't that the point i was trying to make?
[18:07] <bekks> LtRipley: No. You made the point you are trying to get out of the ways of the OS.
[18:07] <marcus> this has been easier for me than Winblows
[18:07] <bekks> LtRipley: At least thats what you said.
[18:08] <Beldar> marcus, Cool, do you need support?
[18:08] <LtRipley> bekks: it doesn't really matter. Either way people will say the troubles i have with linux are my own fault
[18:08] <LtRipley> b
[18:08] <marcus> not yet...I'm testing the xchat I just downloaded..thanx though  :-)
[18:09] <bekks> LtRipley: But following the ubuntu ways still gives you a supported system ;)
[18:09] <Danato> how can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/QC3wYKrY
[18:09] <GeeJee1970> Anyone experience to get pammount working on 12.04?
[18:09] <LtRipley> bekks: i try hard to do that
[18:09] <Danato> btw i dont understand the command, its for a bug test
[18:09] <LtRipley> bekks: it is not always easy to see the ubuntu ways
[18:09] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, State the issue to the channel for help in detail.
[18:09] <bekks> Danato: Ask the maintainer of that git repo.
[18:10] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats why we are trying to suggest things in here, like "use upstart as it is, dont use fancy GUIs, etc."
[18:10] <LtRipley> bekks: people will tell me 'run that command' or 'change that file' and other people will tell me later 'you shouldn't have done that'
[18:10] <Danato> bekks: who?
[18:10] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: I just kind of wonder why having a "steady job" precludes being able to understand config files
[18:10] <GeeJee1970> Pammount installed and configured, it does not show any mounted shares
[18:11] <bekks> Danato: The maintainer of the git repo
[18:11] <LtRipley> bekks: ... i never said i want a fancy gui, actually in #jack i have to justify myself if i want to use command line tools
[18:11] <Danato> bekks: and how can I know who is he?
[18:11] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i used to have more time when i was a student
[18:12] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: I think you'll find most people involved in this sort of stuff have "steady jobs"
[18:12] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i didn't intend to say otherwise
[18:13] <bekks> Danato: git.kernel.org is an pretty official repo... but in your case, I'd ask the one who suggested to run that command.
[18:13] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i just got the vibe that i have to justify everything i want to do on a personal level
[18:13] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: not at all
[18:13] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: anyway, did you look at KXStudio?
[18:13] <Beldar> LtRipley, a vibe is a projection.
[18:14] <LtRipley> actually that vibe problem, and that sound problem are secondary now, as i can't login into x anymore
[18:14] <Beldar> LtRipley, The key here is just details is all.
[18:14] <bekks> LtRipley: why not? what did you do?
[18:15] <LtRipley> bekks: apt-get upgrade
[18:15] <bekks> LtRipley: That updates the package lists, it doesnt do anything else to your system.
[18:15] <bekks> LtRipley: -.- update does that, not upgrade.
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: So which packages got upgraded?
[18:16] <Danato> bekks: ok, ill do that, thanks
[18:16] <GeeJee1970> Installed Pammount on 12.04, can not get it working, mounts do not show up, server in network is visible; cannot be explored, Any suggestions?
[18:16] <LtRipley> i upgraded to 3.10
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: 3.10?
[18:16] <bekks> LtRipley: 3.10 of what?
[18:16] <LtRipley> 13.10
[18:16] <LtRipley> ubuntu
[18:16] <bekks> Which isnt possible using apt-get upgrade
[18:16] <Beldar> LtRipley, gnome 3 or a kernel?
[18:16] <LtRipley> bekks: then i am quite surprised
[18:17] <bekks> LtRipley: do-release-upgrade does that, e.g.
[18:17] <Beldar> LtRipley, did you add a ppa for gnome 3 3.10
[18:17] <bekks> LtRipley: So what exactly did you do, ignoring what you intended to do?
[18:17] <bekks> Beldar: No.
[18:17] <LtRipley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505438/ i hope i didn't make a typo when copying that url
[18:17] <bekks> Beldar: He upgraded to Ubuntu 13.10
[18:18] <bekks> LtRipley: thats dmesg.
[18:18] <LtRipley> Beldar: no, i was using mate before
[18:18] <Beldar> ah upgraded my mistake
[18:18] <LtRipley> bekks: then it is the right url
[18:18] <Beldar> LtRipley, Ah mate is not supported it's not in the repos.
[18:18] <bekks> LtRipley: And you have hardware errors regarding your harddisk.
[18:19] <LtRipley> that udev- errormessage was quite prominent during startup, i that it was related to my issue
[18:19] <Beldar> LtRipley, Is this mint?
[18:19] <bekks> LtRipley: You are not using Ubuntu, arent you?
[18:19] <LtRipley> no it is an ordinary ubuntu
[18:19] <bekks> Ubuntu 13.10 does not use systemd at all.
[18:19] <bekks> Which is what you are using.
[18:20] <LtRipley> bekks: take my word, it is ubuntu what i installed. Quite some time ago, though
[18:20] <bekks> LtRipley: I dont. I know for sure that Ubuntu isnt using systemd in 13.10
[18:20] <LtRipley> maybe systemd did make through a number of release updates
[18:21] <bekks> So you installed systemd using an PPA?
[18:21] <GeeJee1970> Installed Pammount on 12.04, can not get it working, mounts do not show up, server in network is visible; cannot be explored 'can't obtain share list from server', Any suggestions?
[18:21] <LtRipley> bekks: no i tried to stay away from PPAs as much as possible
[18:21] <bekks> LtRipley: Then how did you get systemd?
[18:21] <OerHeks> LtRipley, systemd does not work anymore, as you have been told.
[18:21] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: for a start, how did you even get jackd?
[18:21] <LtRipley> gordonjcp: i don't think this is about jackd anymore
[18:22] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: hm, okay
[18:22] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: perhaps it would be a good idea to stop at this point, have a cup of tea away from the computer, and a good long think about what exactly you're trying to achieve
[18:22] <LtRipley> bekks: i cannot tell you, i never cared too much about what happens in the background
[18:22] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Pammount from where it's not in the repos?
[18:22] <bekks> LtRipley: Pastebin the output of the following commands please: lsb_release -a; uname -a; cat /etc/issue
[18:22] <bekks> LtRipley: if you didnt, you wouldnt have systemd now.
[18:23] <gordonjcp> LtRipley: it doesn't matter what sort of OS you're using, the most important thing is knowing when to turn the bloody thing off and stop messing with it, while you get your ideas straight
[18:23] <LtRipley> bekks: was it default at some point in ubuntu history?
[18:23] <GeeJee1970> beldar; I used the commandline: apt-get install
[18:23] <bekks> LtRipley: No, never.
[18:23] <LtRipley> bekks: that is odd
[18:23] <rallosvan> i have systemd on 13.10
[18:23] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I don;t see it in the repos.
[18:24] <Beldar> !find Pammount
[18:24] <bekks> !find pam_mount
[18:24] <bekks> Beldar: There you go.
[18:25] <Beldar> ah not correctly spelled
[18:25] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/650496/
[18:25] <bekks> LtRipley: wrong url
[18:25] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505496/ sorry
[18:26] <bekks> LtRipley: Thats only one of three outoputs asked for.
[18:26] <Beldar> still no pam_mount in my precise repos
[18:27] <LtRipley> bekks: no it is those three
[18:27] <bekks> LtRipley: Look at your paste then stop discussion it ;)
[18:27] <rallosvan> bekks: i have the same systemd-udev entries in my /var/log/dmesg on saucy
[18:28] <LtRipley> bekks: not easy with lynx, but you are right
[18:28] <NeoID> hi, is it recommended to use no partition, mbr or guid with mdadm raid?
[18:29] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: softwarecenter points to: http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/
[18:29] <bekks> NeoID: You should always use partitions.
[18:29] <NeoID> bekks, mbr or guid?
[18:29] <bekks> NeoID: Doesnt matter.
[18:30] <LtRipley> bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505526/ next try
[18:30] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Did you add a repo, libpam-mount, shows which pam_mount is part of. I don't have an answer, not everyone knows every app, however many we can find and help with if we get the correct details and app names is all.
[18:33] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: not to experienced with terminology here: I took from the Softwarecenter 'PAM module that can mount volumes for a user session-Libpam-mount', how can I link to a reference in the repository?'
[18:35] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I don't have an answer to your actual issue, I was just not abpe to find pammount in the precise repo is all.
[18:35] <Beldar> able*
[18:36] <LtRipley> so i get it that systemd is not supposed to be me on my system, but does it actually have anything to do with me not being able to lock into X? or might that be a totally different problem?
[18:36] <bekks> LtRipley: Different issues most likely.
[18:37] <sruz25> Does anybody know if it's possible to have multiple shortcuts for things? I want XF86whatever(the media sound control key) for sound control AND super/win+arrow key for when I'm using keyboard w/o Fn or media keys
[18:37] <rallosvan> I am actually not sure systemd isn't supposed to be there - i've got it on all my boxes and i dont remember installing it
[18:38] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: NP.  Any suggestions how to effectively mount samba shares when using 12.04?
[18:38] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, Nah I have never used samba.
[18:38] <LtRipley> bekks: i wouldn't attribute it to me using mate, as this seems to happen before any VM is started
[18:39] <bekks> LtRipley: VMs are involved too?
[18:39] <LtRipley> sorry WM
[18:39] <GeeJee1970> Beldar: working via CFS?
[18:40] <bekks> LtRipley: When X isnt working, no WM may work - thats obvious.
[18:40] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I use windows and linux, however they are on the same computer, I have no dea what cfs is.
[18:40] <LtRipley> bekks: i get GDM i just cannot enter or click anything
[18:40] <bekks> cfs is a Cluster File System
[18:41] <Beldar> GeeJee1970, I would concentrate on using the channel for help not me. ;)
[18:41] <LtRipley> bekks: or "gnome-shell --mode=gdm" as ps suggests
[18:41] <bekks> LtRipley: ?
[18:41] <jmgk> gu
[18:41] <bekks> LtRipley:  I cant follow those random statements, sorry.
[18:42] <UnnamedUser> Am i allowed /nick? I gotta fix my name
[18:42] <GeeJee1970> Any suggestions on how to effectively mount samba or CFS shares with 12.04?
[18:42] <OerHeks> LtRipley, ubuntu uses lightdm, so what linux version are you on?
[18:42] <LtRipley> bekks: i am saying that i get a gdm-like login screen, so I am not sure to say 'X is not working'
[18:42] <Beldar> !register | UnnamedUser
[18:42] <bekks> LtRipley: So X is working.
[18:43] <bekks> LtRipley: Most likely your WM isnt working.
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> Fixed
[18:43] <LtRipley> bekks: the login manager isn't working, if such things still exist
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> wait no
[18:43] <UnnamedUser1942> brb
[18:44] <LtRipley> OerHeks: Ubuntu 13.10  lsb_release suggests
[18:45] <bekks> LtRipley: you just said it is working.
[18:45] <LayAnotherBlock> Ajhh better
[18:45] <LtRipley> bekks: it loads, but it doesn't react to input
[18:45] <LtRipley> bekks: i cannot look inside whether it is x that fails to interpret my input or gdm is in some kind of halting state
[18:46] <bekks> LtRipley: then maybe systemd/udev isnt working.
[18:46] <LayAnotherBlock> Umn... I wanna install Ubuntu from Windows XP on a VM. How do i create a blank .iso to use as a blank virtual CD so i can burn the Installation files to it?
[18:46] <LtRipley> bekks: i thought you said i am not supposed to have systemd at all?
[18:46] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: download the ubuntu iso, attach it to the vm, done.
[18:47] <LayAnotherBlock> No i mean do it inside the VM so i can do a dual boot
[18:47] <Beldar> LayAnotherBlock, You realize XP is less than 6 months for end of life?
[18:47] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: You want a VM that dual boots 2 OS?
[18:47] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: creating a blank iso is nonsense.
[18:47] <bcuda_> Can someone please explain to me the difference between xorg, xserver, x11, and wayland?
[18:48] <dondopa> They suck in their own little way
[18:48] <Beldar> bcuda_, This is support research it
[18:48] <LayAnotherBlock> rallosvan: Yes
[18:48] <bekks> !helpful | Beldar
[18:49] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: Why would you want this? Why not just install 2 VMs? One OS in each?
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, Explaining in detail all the differences is beyond this channels norm.
[18:49] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: What is your use case for dual booting a VM into two OS?
[18:49] <Beldar> bekks, period
[18:50] <bekks> Beldar: a general explanation in two sentences would have been enough. no one asked for a in-depth explanation. period.
[18:50] <LayAnotherBlock> Cuz i wanna use the VM as a fake Real OS. I wanna prank people by thinking my Real OS is not Win8 but is a dual boot of WinXP Pro and Ubuntu haha
[18:50] <Beldar> bekks, As you should know that rarely happens.
[18:51] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: but you can't get rid of the HOST OS, even in seamless mode. It wont work with virtualbox. which hypervisor are you uisng?
[18:51] <bekks> Beldar: I wont discuss your attitude anymore. period.
[18:52] <LayAnotherBlock> hypervisor?
[18:52] <LayAnotherBlock> Can i have the meaning of that?
[18:52] <bekks> rallosvan: seamless mode works fine with vbox.
[18:52] <Beldar> bekks, easy explanations are all over the web, they would nit be if if that was needed. And your attitude is not much different, look at the posts you have made, people who live in glass houses.
[18:52] <rallosvan> bekks: That's not what i said
[18:53] <bekks> Beldar: I am not afraid of my posts, but I am not going to waste my time again with reading you. Bye.
[18:53] <LayAnotherBlock> bekks: It only works after installing VBox Guest Additions which i have already done
[18:53] <Beldar> bekks, excellent, thanks. ;)
[18:54] <rallosvan> bekks: he want his VM to dual boot XP and ubuntu so he can "troll"people into thiking he isnt using win8. But that wont work becuase even in seamless mode you will see parts of the host. Which is what i was saying, never mind the actual difficulty of dual booting a VM
[18:54] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: yes. thatsa expected.
[18:54] <LayAnotherBlock> Seriously... What is a hypervisor?
[18:54] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: that thing that gives you a vm.
[18:55] <LayAnotherBlock> Ok. VirtualBox
[18:55] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: and there are zillion ways to detect that you are using a vm.
[18:55] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: it ain't going to work, sorry to disappoint you
[18:55] <LayAnotherBlock> oh
[18:56] <LayAnotherBlock> Wait... I forgot... I can mount an iso containing the install files as a virtual disk!
[18:57] <LtRipley> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505638/  this problem in .xsession-errors looks grave, but what ressource is it referring to?
[18:58] <LayAnotherBlock> What's Mythbuntu?
[18:58] <SwSavant> It's a myth.
[18:59] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: That sort of question is easily answered via Google
[18:59] <LayAnotherBlock> Are u sure? I'm in the installation process. It gives me the choice of Lubuntu, Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Ebuntu and Mythbuntu
[18:59] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: But I think it was some kind of attempt to build a TV box
[18:59] <SwSavant> Shh...
[19:00] <ms49-up> how to setup virual host on ubuntu
[19:00] <rallosvan> Mythbuntu is a myth really
[19:00] <LayAnotherBlock> Well what Desktop Environment does it use?
[19:00] <ms49-up> ubuntu 13.10
[19:00] <SwSavant> We dont.. talk about it .. *wink wink*
[19:00] <SwSavant> no I'm only kidding
[19:01] <bekks> ms49-up: apache virtual host? vbox vm?
[19:01] <LayAnotherBlock> What about Lubuntu? Its desktop environment?
[19:01] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: lxde
[19:01] <rallosvan> lubuntu uses LXDE, it's a lightweight win7 type desktop
[19:01] <LayAnotherBlock> Which one uses Gnome Pannel 2?
[19:02] <ms49-up> bekks: apache virtual host  links on internet keep talking about this directory /etc/apache2/sites-available which does not exist on my system
[19:02] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: no one.
[19:02] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: gnome2 is basically dead,
[19:02] <rallosvan> i dont know about Edubuntu, but none of those uses others uses gnome panel 2 as standard, but you can load it on yourself after
[19:02] <LayAnotherBlock> damn...
[19:03] <rallosvan> LayAnotherBlock: gnome3 has a gnome2 "emulation" mode
[19:03] <LtRipley> bekks: i come to the idea that my problems didn't result from the upgrade at all (which was only halfly done weeks ago, and triggered again by my apt-get upgrade), but by fooling around with jack_control settings
[19:03] <LayAnotherBlock> I'll try Edubuntu
[19:03] <LtRipley> but again, this is an only mildly educated guess
[19:03] <xangua> LayAnotherBlock: or you can actually tell us what is what you want
 apache virtual host  links on internet keep talking about this directory /etc/apache2/sites-available which does not exist on my system
[19:05] <ms49-up> hi any one can help with apache virtual host on ubuntu 13.10
[19:05] <bekks> LtRipley: I strongly doubt that jackd kills your window manager.
[19:05] <bekks> !apache2 | ms49-up
[19:05] <bekks> !apache | ms49-up
[19:06] <ms49-up> apache 2.4
[19:06] <bekks> !info apache2
[19:06] <LayAnotherBlock> Mythbuntu installation errors are creepy!
[19:06] <LtRipley> bekks: i agree, that would be quite odd. But it is my best guess right now
[19:06] <bekks> ms49-up: there you go. :)
[19:07] <bcuda_> Is it possible to have graphics acceleration with nvidia  755M graphics cards?
[19:07] <LtRipley> bekks: did you see this paste of .xsession-errors, i am not sure how to read it? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6505638/
[19:07] <bekks> bcuda_: yes.
[19:07] <choon> after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:08] <ms49-up> is appache  and appache2 are diffrent things ?
[19:08] <LayAnotherBlock> What is the desktop environment of Xubuntu?
[19:08] <bekks> LtRipley: The X server on :1 is inavailable.
[19:08] <bcuda_> bekks: how? I've reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 it is fully uptoday what do I do now?
[19:08] <auronandace> LayAnotherBlock: xfce
[19:08] <bekks> bcuda_: Install the latest nvidia drivers from the ubuntu repos.
[19:08] <LtRipley> bekks: what is ':1'?
[19:09] <LayAnotherBlock> And what is it like?
[19:09] <bekks> LtRipley: "Display 1"
[19:09] <LtRipley> bekks: would the default be 0 or 1?
[19:09] <auronandace> LayAnotherBlock: try it and see, its my favourite (very customizable)
[19:09] <bekks> LtRipley: that depends on your setup.
[19:09] <fs1> To mount fat32 as rw I would write "sudo mount -t vfat -o umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mount/ESP" right???
[19:10] <Walex2> fs1: RW/RO and permissions are different things.
[19:10] <fs1> hmm.. so how do i get permissions to copy files to that mounted partition
[19:11] <fs1> if RW does not give me permissions
[19:11] <bekks> fs1: mount it as rw, and grant permissions.
[19:11] <Walex2> fs1: if you want proper permissions to yourself, use -o 'uid=....'
[19:11] <choon> after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:11] <bekks> choon: So did you configure your samba and did you start it afterwards?
[19:12] <LayAnotherBlock> I keep getting an error: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO. How do i fix?
[19:12] <bekks> LayAnotherBlock: By using another mirror.
[19:12] <stetho> Hi - can anyone tell me what I might be missing? If I type sudo do-release-upgrade ( or sudo do-release-upgrade -d as a test) in to a 13.04 server, I get "No new release found" - is there something else I have to do to get to 13.10?
[19:12] <bcuda_> bekks: is http://askubuntu.com/questions/325037/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-12-04 the way you'd recommend?
[19:13] <LayAnotherBlock> well this happens when i load the install for Ubuntu and hit Install
[19:13] <bcuda_> bekks: for a 755M? (the OP had a  630M)
[19:13] <choon> yess, I use this command "restart smbd" but I got message "unknown job"
[19:13] <bekks> bcuda_: No. I suggest: Install the latest nvidia driver from th ubuntu7 repo. Do not use any PPA if you dont need to.
[19:13] <bekks> !samba | choon
[19:14] <ms49-up> can any one tell me where can i find this folder "sites-available " if i have  LAMP installed
[19:15] <LayAnotherBlock> I need a blank cd... a virtual one...
[19:16] <SwSavant> ms49-up: Try the apache documentation? There's a wiki I believe or you might be able to get manual pages
[19:16] <bh> Where can I see per-package results for popcon? I'm thinking of dropping support for some old distros and I'd like to know if anyone is actually using the package
[19:16] <choon> bekks yes, I use this command "restart smbd" but I got message "unknown job"
[19:16] <fs1> "udo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/flash -o dmask=000,fmask=111" would not work, I need to use -o uid?
[19:16] <Danato> LayAnotherBlock: a blank virtual cd? lol wtf
[19:16] <bh> and http://popcon.ubuntu.com/main/ seems sort of broken
[19:16] <ms49-up> #Apachefriends
[19:16] <SwSavant> fs1: That might be 'sudo' ..
[19:17] <fs1> yeah sudo*
[19:17] <SwSavant> Ok just checking
[19:17] <SwSavant> Is there an error message that is meaningful?
[19:18] <fs1> You ask me?
[19:18] <SwSavant> Yes, sorry.
[19:18] <fs1> yeah i could not copy files to the mounted partition, it said i have no permissions
[19:19] <SwSavant> fs1: Can you read files? Did the mount work?
[19:19] <fs1> yeah but the mounted partition was empty
[19:20] <SwSavant> fs1: Were you expecting files there?
[19:21] <fs1> yeah but ubuntu does not seem to copy any files to the ESP...
[19:21] <bekks> fs1: then what was the mount command? what are the permissions? which command do you use to copy?
[19:22] <Danato> ran the command whatis git and I got this
[19:22] <Danato> git (1)              - the stupid content tracker
[19:22] <Danato> this thing is quite funny
[19:23] <SwSavant> bekks: it is above
[19:23] <bekks> SwSavant: we dont know wether it is still the command used.
[19:23] <shadows> Danato: interesting find :)
[19:24] <Danato> shadows: lol im not sure if they published it on purpose or someone was trolling and forgot to erase it
[19:24] <shadows> fs1: you could try 'pmount' if your objective is to mount and access files as a user
[19:25] <Ashva> bekks: I check the page but it didn't solve the problem
[19:26] <shadows> Danato: it sounds like something Linus or another git developer would do because "documentation is for other people to do" and then it just never got updated;   I think if you wanted to submit a patch and attach to a bug report it would probably get fixed and just that no one has done it yet
[19:27] <fs1> i used "sudo mount -t vfat -0 umask=000 /dev/sda1 /mount/ESP"
[19:27] <jmgk> hi all
[19:27] <fs1> maybe "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/flash -o dmask=000,fmask=111" would work?
[19:28] <LtRipley> re
[19:28] <choon> ubottu: I had follow the instruction but after install samba, I coudn't share my folder due to error "255 an smbd mat not running" can someone help?
[19:28] <Danato> shadows: then knock yourself out, I dont know what "the stupid content tracker" was supposed to be. thats why i used the command in the first place
[19:28] <LtRipley> bekks: don't ask me why, but 'apt-get remove gnome-shell' solved the problem
[19:28] <PresidentObama> Ubuntu is cool.
[19:28] <jmgk> hey pr
[19:29] <jmgk> hey PresidentObama
[19:29] <PresidentObama> Hello.
[19:29] <SwSavant> Cool the president is here.
[19:29] <PresidentObama> The United States supports Linux.
[19:29] <Danato> is this some kind of conspiracy?
[19:29] <LtRipley> bekks: i didn't use it before and the upgrade probably installed it and it didn't work
[19:29] <Danato> :P
[19:30]  * shadows applauds
[19:31] <shadows> a .255 /32 ? c'mon.
[19:31] <pero> i have policykitd bringing down my entire system right now at >15 load - what gives?
[19:31] <LtRipley> ikonia: what if it was the real president?
[19:31] <shadows> LtRipley: moving on...
[19:32] <chack> Hi all
[19:32] <shadows> question of my own for us here, any KVM virtual manager users?
[19:32] <ikonia> shadows: just ask the real question
[19:33] <shadows> that is the question
[19:33] <ikonia> shadows: "yes I use it"
[19:34] <shadows> ah, what is your use case?  just curious to know
[19:34] <ikonia> my "use case" ?
[19:34] <shadows> another *nix guest, is it for development or legacy apps?
[19:34] <shadows> some other type of OS?
[19:34] <ikonia> I use it in various enviornments for a wide scope of enviornments
[19:35] <jmgk> hi all
[19:35] <jmgk> Is there a 64bit version of Xchat?
[19:35] <ikonia> jmgk: the version in the 64bit repos is 64bit
[19:35] <chack>   tell me please, what is the minimum hardware required for UE 3.4?
[19:35] <jmgk> oh I see
[19:35] <bekks> chack: What is "UE"?
[19:36] <jmgk> sorry I'm new to Ubuntu
[19:36] <ikonia> chack: that is not a supported distro in ubuntu - i'ts not an official ubuntu release
[19:36] <ikonia> jmgk: no need to be sorry
[19:36] <chack> ubuntu 12.04
[19:36] <ikonia> chack: 12.04 is not UE - they are quite different
[19:36] <jmgk> ok
[19:37] <blaked> Anyone know how to get the "prlimit" command on precise? Or how to change process limits on a running process without it
[19:37] <ikonia> blaked: is there an interface in /proc or /sys ?
[19:38] <blaked> ikonia: yes - tried echoing to it, but am getting an error which I can't find any solutions to despite an hour of googling like crazy :)
[19:38] <blaked> /bin/echo -n "Max open files=4000:5000" > /proc/6885/limits # returns write error: invalid argument
[19:38] <ikonia> blaked: you need to do it as root
[19:38] <blaked> ikonia: am definitely root
[19:39] <ikonia> blaked: what's actually in that file
[19:39] <kexibq> guys, is there a way to change tweak or completely swap the alt-tab behaviour in 12.04 unity? It is very slow for me.
[19:40] <AssociateX> Hello Earthlings!
[19:40] <shadows> kexibq: yes.   I will note that I myself haven't found an ALT-TAB behavior that I like yet
[19:40] <blaked> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/8gmNEd7Z
[19:41] <kexibq> shadows: the elementary os one is exquisite
[19:41] <AssociateX> I just tried to install Opera but apt-get and synaptic don't find it. What is the proper way to install, and why doesn't it just install?
[19:41] <ikonia> blaked: yeah, so you can't "overwrite" (note you are doing echo > file) like that
[19:42] <OerHeks> AssociateX, use the download from their site
[19:42] <chack> какое минимальное оборудование необходимо для Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[19:42] <OerHeks> http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?os=linux
[19:43] <kexibq> chack: In english, please
[19:43] <blaked> ikonia: seems to work for some people. also the "prlimit" command supposedly replaced the echoing-to-proc approach http://serverfault.com/questions/201207/set-max-file-limit-on-a-running-process
[19:43] <AssociateX> OerHeks, funny, but I was already doing that. Why is not just part of a regular install though.
[19:43] <chack> Sorry. what is the minimum equipment necessary for the what is the Ultimate Edition 3.4?
[19:43] <shadows> kexibq: briefly there's a Unity component you can control with compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) and that also has alternatives for task switchers
[19:44] <OerHeks> AssociateX, good point, browser choice menu á la windows
[19:44] <DJones> chack: Thats not supported in this channel, this channel only supports the official releases of Ubuntu
[19:45] <pfifo> hello world
[19:47] <shadows> [62872.809088] type=1400 audit(1385927205.568:76): apparmor="DENIED" operation="capable" parent=1 profile="/usr/sbin/libvirtd" pid=1281 comm="libvirtd" pid=1281 comm="libvirtd" capability=29  capname="audit_write"
[19:47] <shadows> so, usb-passthrough not working on qemu kvm guest
[19:47] <shadows> how to figure out why?
[19:47] <shadows> it appears to be apparmor related
[19:47] <pfifo> shadows: are you running kvm as root?
[19:48] <shadows> pfifo: virsh as regular user then "start <machinename>"
[19:48] <shadows> err.. how to tell and answer your question better?
[19:48] <cjelfe> hello everyone, can someone please help me about a question relating to how IRC works, if this is not off-topic?
[19:49] <AssociateX> How can I installed Opera with synaptic or apt-get?
[19:49] <auronandace> cjelfe: i'm sure #freenode can help
[19:49] <pfifo> cjelfe: you should ask in #freenode
[19:49] <cjelfe> all right, thank you :)
[19:50] <pfifo> shadows: I guess you must be using some gui or cli frontend to kvm
[19:50] <bcuda_> Please help: http://pastebin.com/iLcxWS2s
[19:50] <OerHeks> AssociateX, use the download from their site, it will add a repository
[19:50] <shadows> ps aux | less ;  /kvm;  kvm-irqfd-clean is running as root, qemu-system-x86_64 is running as user 115
[19:51] <shadows> pfifo: okay, have you got usb passthrough working before (and how?)
[19:51] <AssociateX> OerHeks, thank you, got it down.
[19:52] <OerHeks> AssociateX, double click it, or use sudo dpkg -i /path/to/opera.deb
[19:54] <hassen> VIVA LINUX
[19:54] <pfifo> shadows: yes, buy running qemu like this `sudo kvm --stuff` instead of like this `kvm --stuff`
[19:55] <shadows> pfifo: interesting, okay
[19:55] <shadows> pfifo: am still curious to know how to tell apparmor to sod off
[19:55] <dougl> hassen, viva linux!
[19:55] <pfifo> sod off? this is an english channel shadows
[19:56] <shadows> to "go away"
[19:56] <shadows> or just be more permissive
[19:56] <pfifo> shadows: uninstall it?
[19:56] <shadows> do you know, would uninstalling apparmor break the Ubuntu system?
[19:57] <pfifo> shadows: Ive never tried, dont do it if you dont know how to fix it
[19:58] <shadows> pfifo: thanks for talking anyways
[19:59] <shadows> the answer is to make sure the USB mode is "USB 2" for some unrelated reason
[19:59] <shadows> your suggestions were a bit off, sorry!
[20:02] <cyx^> can someone suggest a printer model that works great on ubuntu 64bit?
[20:03] <xangua> !printer | cyx^
[20:03] <CookieM> hps work fine
[20:06] <hisham> What better [[ backtrack System ]] Or [[kali_linux ]] ??
[20:07] <bekks> hisham: Neither nor is supported in here.
[20:09] <remoteCTRL> has any of you domsticated the firefox and chromium dragon?
[20:09] <remoteCTRL> meaning the RAM issue...?
[20:10] <ianorlin> RAM issue?
[20:10] <remoteCTRL> yeah... try and open like more than 10 tabs...
[20:10] <remoteCTRL> possibly with farcebook or youtube...
[20:12] <ianorlin> yes it uses a lot of ram
[20:12] <mcuserubu> got some issue with R.E.M...
[20:12] <cyx^> try dwb
[20:14] <gome> how much of swap memory i have to give .
[20:14] <bekks> Depends on what you want to do.
[20:15] <auronandace> gome: if you want to be able to hibernate it has to be slightly more than your ram
[20:15] <gome> my ram is 1 gb , 80 gb hard drive.
[20:15] <bekks> gome: And you are using vbox?
[20:16] <gome> yes.
[20:17] <bcuda_> Is there a way to force a (virtual) terminal to open up under unity if unity crashes and isn't responding to ctrl+alt+backspace?
[20:18] <OerHeks> ubuntu does not use ctrl alt backspace, by default.
[20:18] <OerHeks> !reisub
[20:18] <adamu> hello
[20:19] <gome> bekks: so any solution
[20:19] <bcuda_> ctrl+alt+t . nevermind
[20:19] <Calinou> I've tried using alt+print screen+R then do Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a TTY today, did not work
[20:19] <bcuda_> OerHeks: how do you logout from ubuntu from terminal?
[20:20] <bcuda_> exit would just close the virtual terminal session
[20:20] <OerHeks> bcuda_, i don't,i use the gui
[20:20] <bcuda_> right but Unity crashed
[20:20] <bcuda_> so there is no logout / reboot option
[20:21] <bcuda_> 13.04 i think
[20:21] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: I can easilly open 50 tabs in chromium, I have 2GB of system memory
[20:21] <adamu> pfifo, lol
[20:22] <yeats> bcuda_: Ctrl-Alt-F1 (through F6) will bring you to a TTY, you can then do 'sudo restart lightdm'
[20:22] <pfifo> adamu: what?
[20:22] <bcuda_> that does it work
[20:22] <bcuda_> OH! gnome-session-quit is listed
[20:22] <bcuda_> that works
[20:23] <adamu> pfifo, "I can easilly open 50 tabs in chromium, I have 2GB of system memory"
[20:23] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: i have 4 gigs of ram and my swap ais always engaged, i have 1 chromium window open with 36 tabs and like 5 firefox windwos with a total of mabe 50 tabs...
[20:24] <adamu> pfifo, nvm
[20:24] <pfifo> letme clarify, I have just 2gb of memory, yet even with this limitation i can open many more than 10 tabs
[20:24] <remoteCTRL> and NOTHING ELSE!!
[20:25] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: do you use flash?
[20:25] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, You can change the swappiness
[20:25] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: sure do, as said es specially farcebook and youtube are a pain int the ...
[20:25] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: how would i dop that?
[20:26] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: ahh, drop support for flash
[20:26] <remoteCTRL> and what the heck is a swappiness ?
[20:26] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: how do i watch youtube vids then? :D
[20:26] <bekks> remoteCTRL: swappiness is the tendency to swap. The higher the value, the more the system wants to swap.
[20:26] <Calinou> youtube-dl *cough*
[20:26] <pfifo> remoteCTRL: html5 or maybe, drop things that support flash along with dropping flash itself
[20:27] <remoteCTRL> i installed this thing called memory purge but i have to do it manually every few minutes, otherwise the RAM is full again...
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> Is Realtek RTL8190 802.11n WLAN supported?
[20:27] <adamu> html5 is awesome
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> I just bougit it
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> it's an internal WLAN card
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> but it's not being detected by Ubuntu
[20:27] <Foxhoundz> shows up in lspci though
[20:28] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, On this page look at checking To check the swappiness value https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[20:28] <pfifo> why would someone want to watch 50 youtube videos at once anyway?
[20:28] <adamu> pfifo, Why wouldn't you?
[20:28] <surxenberg> hello folks
[20:28] <remoteCTRL> pfifo: well i would not, that exactly being the point you know?
[20:29] <adamu> surxenberg, hello
[20:29] <linuxuz3r> guys i see so many process running on my ubuntu installation can someone help me clean it up
[20:29] <remoteCTRL> i do alot of recherche, so i keep opening tabs to watch later, and for some not so clear reason those "clever" softwares keep opening up flash parties on every single tab until the whole system is prone to swap :D
[20:30] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, Not to interrupt your conversation with pfifo but you have to use the computer within hardware limitations if you want ease of use, that is there point.
[20:30] <Foxhoundz> :(
[20:31] <surxenberg> anyone with an apple keyboard here? i'd like to use the exact same layout Apple uses (i have swiss german keyboards and the IBM PC default layouts are really cumbersome for programming, Apple's layouts are much better). is anyone here who's familiar with apple keyboards /layouts under GNOME?
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: that is of course one nice load of partonizing BS, cos you know, i really really dont see any reason why anybody would wanna play 50 vids at once, for example also if you need to reopen your browser you know?
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> that is simply a very bad design flaw
[20:32] <Beldar> remoteCTRL, Hey your attitude is so pretty, good luck trying to get any help here.
[20:32] <remoteCTRL> firefox actually has a load tabs on demand checkbox, but that doesnt work in a manner iw would wish for...
[20:33] <remoteCTRL> Beldar: ya, thanks for the link tho... ;)
[20:34]  * Beldar loves idiots
[20:34]  * surxenberg loves cats
[20:34] <gordonjcp> cats ftw
[20:34]  * adamu is talking in third person
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> looks like it's not supported
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> the vendor is TEW-643pi
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> Any leads on getting this to work with Ubuntu would be helpful
[20:34] <Foxhoundz> vendor model*
[20:34] <pfifo> id like to watch 50 cat videos at once
[20:34] <FloodBot1> Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <surxenberg> i hate my logitech bluetooth mouse though
[20:35] <Walex2> remoteCTRL: that sort of works, but there are bugs with some popular addons
[20:35] <Walex2> remoteCTRL: in particular it does not work with the session manager of Tab Mix Plus.
[20:35]  * Beldar pets his cat snowbelle and laughs in a sinister way
[20:35] <smaudet> Hey all, I have a weird bug...my Nvidia server keeps crashing whenever I use Google Chrome to visit www.google.com
[20:36] <smaudet> Any clues?
[20:36] <pfifo> Foxhoundz: ther is ndiswrapper
[20:36] <yorwos-pc> hi all
[20:36] <smaudet> Oh and my Nvidia drivers are fairly up-to-date, there is a new version I'm currently downloading/installing
[20:36] <remoteCTRL> Walex2: i somewhat does, but i haven't quite figured out, what criteria it applies to open or drop tabs...
[20:37] <yorwos-pc> could some1 guide me hot to use a firewire audio card with ardour on ubuntu studio 13.10 ??? it seems to be recognisable from ffado-mixer
[20:37] <remoteCTRL> anyways chromium lacks this function, so you have to ressort to something like tab memory purge
[20:38] <remoteCTRL> which is cumbersome if you have to trigger it manually each time your prone to swapping again...
[20:39] <Megabyte> You know, bindfs is quite useful to protect my disk, allowing only certain areas to be written...
[20:39] <smaudet> brb installing driver
[20:41] <Walex2> Megabyte: you can use AppArmor or similar for that...
[20:42] <Megabyte> Walex2, What is AppArmor, and how do I use it?
[20:43] <Walex2> Megabyte: it is the security protection system used by Ubuntu and other distros... Look at '/etc/apparmor.d/' for typical rule files
[20:43] <Walex2> Megabyte: also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[20:43] <WeThePeople> there is a funtion in gnome3 desktop manager that when the cursor is moved  or " touches" the top left side of the screen it opens up a extension. what is the name of the extensions?
[20:45] <xangua> WeThePeople: is not an extension, it's built in
[20:46] <linuxuz3r> how do i stop processes in ubuntu so that it doesnt start again when i stop it
[20:46] <Megabyte> Walex2, it looks a bit *too* complex. I wish there was an intuitive gui to configure that.
[20:47] <xangua> linuxuz3r: sounds like you want to stop a daemon, explain what you want to do
[20:47] <bekks> !upstart | linuxuz3r
[20:48] <WeThePeople> xangua, do you know what the function is called?
[20:56] <param_> hey
[20:57] <bs123> hi
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> xangua sometimes when i kill an app it starts again
[20:57] <param_> Hello Folk, my speaker and webcam  don't work on ubuntu 12.04
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> i want to kill a process so that it stops running when i kill it
[20:57] <linuxuz3r> i do want it to start when i boot
[20:57] <Beldar> param_, Have you tried the cheese app for the camera?
[20:58] <param_> cheese app , no
[20:58] <Beldar> param_, Try that to see if it works, what is the context of these not working?
[20:59] <param_> thanks, webcam working now
[20:59] <Beldar> param_, Cool.
[20:59] <linuxuz3r> xangua, still there
[20:59] <param_> what about speakers ?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less, earphones working fine with my mobile
[21:00] <Beldar> param_, this using skype?
[21:00] <param_> shall i come on skype ?
[21:00] <Beldar> param_, No for me, just trying to isolate the context here?
[21:00] <param_> ok
[21:01] <param_> give ur skype id
[21:01] <Beldar> param_, I would not do that from here honestly, and I'm minutes from lunch with my mother.
[21:01] <bekks> param_: this is irc, not skype :)
[21:02] <param_> ok :)
[21:02] <jmgk> lol
[21:02] <jmgk> param_,  stop ping me for Skype
[21:02] <jmgk> ~ops
[21:02] <jmgk> !ops
[21:03] <jmgk> sorry if i did that but param_  keeps on messaging me for Skye id
[21:03] <jmgk> If someone is willing to step in?
[21:03] <k1l> !pm | param_
[21:03] <param_> bekks can you help me fixing my issue,   my laptop speaker not working?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less, earphones working fine with my mobile
[21:03] <Calinou> jmgk, /mode +g
[21:03] <jmgk> oh
[21:03] <param_> hey  jmgk
[21:03] <Calinou> disallows PMs unless you accept them with /accept
[21:04] <Calinou> also, /ignore
[21:04] <param_> what happened ? i didnt did anything , i am not pinging you
[21:04] <jmgk> eh
[21:04] <jmgk> just ignored
[21:04] <k1l> jmgk: best is to /ignore the user. we cant judge outside our ubuntu channels. if that is an ongoing problem please ask the staffers for help in #freenode
[21:05] <jmgk> thanks Calinou
[21:05] <jmgk> ok
[21:06] <linuxuz3r> what is dnsmasq for
[21:08] <pvl1> is wine supposed to have like a lot of deps
[21:08] <param_> help me fixing my issue,   my laptop speaker not working?  and if i use earphone, the sound is very less,
[21:09] <pvl1> param_: run alsamixer in a terminal
[21:10] <sianh> guys, I'm trying to install ffmpeg, but when trying to do so it also wants to install nvidia drivers, I do not own a nvidia card, and installing the drivers crash my sytem
[21:10] <Walex2> pvl1: yes
[21:10] <pvl1> Walex2: blahhh i just removed like half of these
[21:10] <Modrick> Hey which channel can I go to for discussing ubuntu touch?
[21:10] <Walex2> pvl1: if you used an APT front-end you should not havr been able to do that.
[21:11] <k1l> Modrick: #ubuntu-touch is the channel
[21:11] <Modrick> Okay thanks. I was unable to retrieve the channel list
[21:11] <Walex2> pvl1: anyhow it is very esy using something like 'aptitude' to get them back.
[21:11] <pvl1> Walex2: i know. more importntly am i gonna break anything patching the sourceforge 1.7 over the apt 1.6?
[21:11] <linuxuz3r> what is dnsmasq for
[21:12] <pvl1> sianh: why are you installing ffmpeg
[21:12] <sianh> pvl1, to convert videos to gifs
[21:13] <Walex2> pvl1: depends.... Anyhow consider looking into bsckports, or paying some money for Crossover Office
[21:13] <pvl1> Walex2: im broke. bsckports you say, ill check it out
[21:13] <pvl1> sianh: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/qgifer-converts-video-to-gif-supports.html
[21:14] <sianh> thank you pvl1, I hope it supports ogv
[21:14] <pvl1> sianh: in any case, how are you install ffmpeg that it requires the nvidia driver? i just checked and that is not a dep
[21:15] <stetho> Hi - can anyone tell me what I might be missing? If I type sudo do-release-upgrade ( or sudo do-release-upgrade -d as a test) in to a 13.04 server, I get "No new release found" - is there something else I have to do to get to 13.10?
[21:15] <pvl1> stetho: apt-get update
[21:15] <k1l> stetho: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[21:15] <pvl1> stetho: and enable the repos
[21:16] <sianh> pvl1, apt-get install ffmpeg
[21:16] <pvl1> sianh: thats very odd. maybe nvidia is flagged for isntall by something else
[21:18] <stetho> apt-get update has ben run, lsb_release -r give 13.04 and what repos?
[21:18] <sianh> pvl1, but it's just with ffmpeg, for example, gnome-shell doesn't ask me for nvidia, it's really weird
[21:19] <pvl1> sianh: i would try using aptitude in this case
[21:19] <sianh> pvl1, same thing
[21:19] <pvl1> sianh: you cant deselect the nvidia driver and force install?
[21:19] <gianko> hi guys, I am trying to recompile apache2 in ubuntu 12.04.3 with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip. it fails and it seems nostrip is not supported yet. Do you have any pointer to start from?
[21:20] <sianh> pvl1, no, or at least I can't in the first 5 possible solutions
[21:21] <sianh> pvl1, but let me try later, the ppa for qgifer also has ffmpeg packages(I assume they are newer than those that come with ubuntu)
[21:21] <param_> my laptop is not working on ubuntu 12.04
[21:21] <pvl1> Walex2: half of them are nto deps, just recom
[21:21] <param_> my laptop speaker is not working on ubuntu 12.04
[21:22] <pvl1> param_: run alsamixer in terminal, check your settings there
[21:23] <trism> gianko: going to have to be more specific about how it fails, it uses dh_strip so it should work
[21:23] <trism> gianko: although we also have apache2-dbg which is where the stripped symbols go if you just need symbols
[21:24] <param__> i have ran alsamixer command, it looks fine
[21:25] <KalleAnka123> hello
[21:25] <pvl1> param__: checked the mutes?
[21:25] <gianko> trism: so, in the logs I see that the problem starts here make[1]: *** [override_dh_strip] Error 1#
[21:25] <trism> gianko: can you pastebin the whole error?
[21:25] <gianko> trism: I will check that, tnx
[21:25] <freannrak> I'm stuck figuring out how to change trackpoint sensitivity on my folio 9470m running 12.04. I've tried gpointing-device-settings, ubuntus default cpanel mouse settings and now command line, but nothing seems to be working: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/41cf895517a71bebdf23
[21:26] <param__> how to check mutes ? sound is coming on earphone.. but on earphone also the sound is very less
[21:26] <gianko> trism: let's do that first I have a look at apache2-dbg, in case of problems I will come back :)
[21:28] <param__> how to check mutes pvl1
[21:28] <Vedrit> Can anyone help me with a Mono/ASP.net issue? No one seems to be active in the HTTPD or Mono channels
[21:30] <gianko> prism: is there and -dbg for apache2? I have seen only packages for saucy and trusty
[21:30] <trism> gianko: oh hmm, might be a new thing, now that you mention it
[21:32] <pvl1> param__: the highlights torwards the bottom of each colum, hit m to toggle them
[21:32] <trism> gianko: we do however still have dbgsym packages on ddebs for other versions: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/a/apache2/
[21:32] <param__> yes its fine pvl1
[21:32] <Vedrit> No one seems to be active here either, unless my phone is acting up
[21:32] <param__> its not muted
[21:32] <bekks> Vedrit: Some hundred people ae in here.
[21:32] <trism> gianko: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages
[21:33] <gianko> trism: great! :)
[21:34] <pvl1> param__: what are you playing music with
[21:35] <param__> vlc , song on vlc player, and youtube
[21:35] <pulsar78> my dns is set at 127.0.1.1, although im using dhcp..why ?
[21:36] <param__> earphone were working fine till yesterday, today earphone volume on ubuntu is less
[21:36] <matachi> :quit
[21:36] <bekks> pulsar78: BEcause you areusing dnsmasq
[21:37] <pulsar78> bekks: thanks
[21:37] <solcyto> helllo
[21:37] <pvl1> param__: what ubuntu are you running
[21:37] <param__> 12.04
[21:38] <pulsar78> bekks: do i need dnsmasq ?
[21:38] <bekks> pulsar78: Yeah, it doesnt hurt.
[21:38] <solcyto> necesito ayuda
[21:38] <bekks> pulsar78: If you want to change your DNS, set it in network manager.
[21:39] <pulsar78> bekks: not really, i just want it to properly display dns delivered by dhcp
[21:40] <bekks> pulsar78: Why?
[21:40] <pvl1> param__: look into https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/pavucontrol/
[21:40] <TonyAldo> I created a pgp key using ubuntus built in key manager now is there anyway to encrypt a file using that key?
[21:41] <pulsar78> bekks: i'd like to run a tight ship.
[21:41] <param__> pvl1,   i think there is no drivers for speaker ? subwoofer option don't work in sound settings, its disables
[21:41] <pvl1> param__: highly unlikely. are you on a laptop?
[21:42] <donttrustem> I am running lucid and want to install this libminiupnpc-dev  but apt-get does find it
[21:42] <bekks> pulsar78: I dont get that. Why is it vital to see the dns server in a config file?
[21:42] <param__> yes on laptop
[21:43] <param__> the subwoofer option is disabled
[21:43] <pvl1> param__: does your laptop have a subwoofer?
[21:43] <param__> internal speaker i mean :/
[21:44] <pvl1> donttrustem: do you know in which repo its in? you might need to enable backports or what not
[21:44] <matachi>  
[21:44] <donttrustem> pvl1: no idea :S
[21:45] <donttrustem> pvl1: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/getdeb_games/lucid/games/getdeb/libminiupnpc-dev  found here
[21:45] <donttrustem> just going it  use the .deb
[21:46] <samgabbay> hi im unable to log into my account on xubuntu 13.10 it accepts my passwords but il go right back to the login screen
[21:46] <pvl1> param__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[21:47] <pulsar78> bekks: its confusing, i dont get why dnsmasq would be a relevant service
[21:47] <pvl1> param__: if it is a driver issue you need to find out what driver your laptop uses. lsmod will list enabled drivers
[21:47] <samgabbay> i cant login at all on xubuntu :/
[21:47] <bekks> pulsar78: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dnsmasq
[21:47] <solcyto> hello
[21:47] <adamu> solcyto, hello
[21:47] <pvl1> samgabbay: did you update recently or is this a fresh install
[21:48] <donttrustem> pvl1: crap .. it has dependencies …. do you know what repo it will be in?
[21:48] <samgabbay> pvl1: its a fresh installed i updated my fglrx graphics and now it keeps doing that
[21:48] <gianko> trism: just to see whether I got it right... after I added ddebs repos, let's say I need symbols and to pass other flags to gcc, e.g. DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions".. I recompile the -dbgsym package et voila, would you say so?
[21:48] <pvl1> donttrustem: nope, but hold on ill look into it
[21:48] <param__> pvl1,  the sound on earphones are coming,   so can it be driver problem ?
[21:48] <samgabbay> im trying to go back to the open source drivers
[21:48] <donttrustem> thanks ...
[21:48] <solcyto> soy de argentina necesito ayudaaaaaaa¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
[21:48] <solcyto> adamu
[21:48] <bekks> solcyto: #ubuntu-es
[21:48] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[21:49] <sergiobenrocha2>  i would want to know what means pkg-temp-0-virtual-0 and acpitz-virtual-0, in lm-sensors reading
[21:49] <pulsar78> bekks: i know what it does =), i want to remove it, because i see no purpose of having it installed on a client, or am i wrong here ?
[21:49] <pvl1> donttrustem: just gimme a few minutes
[21:49] <donttrustem> OK
[21:49] <pvl1> samgabbay: please private message me
[21:49] <donttrustem> no problem
[21:49] <solcyto> pero donde pongo eso
[21:50] <bekks> pulsar78: Then refer to the wiki article please.
[21:50] <solcyto> ?
[21:50] <samgabbay> done
[21:50] <bekks> pulsar78: You are wrong, you want it on your client :)
[21:50] <solcyto> gracias :) besos muak
[21:51] <solcyto> bekks
[21:51] <pvl1> donttrustem: did you follow http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/13.10#how_to_install
[21:51] <pvl1> param__: you mean the headphones are fine now?
[21:51] <donttrustem> let me check
[21:51] <samgabbay> pvl1: i messaged ooy
[21:51] <samgabbay> you
[21:51] <param__> headphone sound is less,  but its working,  volume is very less
[21:51] <trism> gianko: not sure I follow you, the debsym packages are just deb packages you install, and then you can debug the binaries with gdb or whatever...if you are rebuilding the package with new options you should add nostrip like you were before
[21:52] <donttrustem> pvl1: no … I will follow it
[21:52] <k1l> !spanish | solcyto
[21:52] <pulsar78> bekks: why is it also a dns client ?
[21:52] <pvl1> param__: what do you get from lsmod | grep snd
[21:53] <trism> gianko: since the dbgsym packages are generated by a separate program on the buildd, and the older apache2 packages don't seem to build -dbg
[21:53] <param__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6506492/  i got this
[21:54] <bekks> pulsar78: Because it is.
[21:55] <pvl1> donttrustem: thanks for that link, very interesting site
[21:56] <gianko> trism: before I meant to recompile apache2-dbgsym with  DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug nostrip" plus  DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions"
[21:56] <gianko> trism: in this way it should work with no errors
[21:57] <param__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6506492/  i got this
[21:57] <pvl1> i saw param__ im looking at it
[21:58] <pvl1> param__: are you on a HP laptop
[21:58] <trism> gianko: is it working?
[21:58] <param__> yes, HP compaq 610
[21:59] <donttrustem> pvl1: man this is becoming a nightmare http://pastebin.com/0Xkwq1Bx
[21:59] <donttrustem> any help would be appriciated
[22:00] <solcyto> 1 pregunta donde pongo esto/join #ubuntu-es
[22:00] <pvl1> donttrustem: did ya try libdb4.8++-dev
[22:00] <xangua> (15:42:01) donttrustem: I am running lucid - please upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[22:01] <donttrustem> xangua: I can't at the moment
[22:01] <pvl1> param__: do you have a control center or sound settings under system menu
[22:02] <param__> yes sound settings on top right corner
[22:02] <geoffb> Will an op take a look at the 'EM255E37' spambot, please, and consider whether it should stay here. Thanks.
[22:02] <solcyto> alguien habla espanish
[22:02] <solcyto> ?
[22:03] <k1l> solcyto: /join #ubuntu-es    into this window
[22:03] <gianko> trism: have't tried yet, I am solving some problem with apt configuration
[22:03] <gianko> trism: I'll let you know once done
[22:04] <solcyto> kll:pero donde pongo /join #ubuntu-es :(
[22:04] <k1l> solcyto: aqui
[22:05] <pvl1> param__: im not sure if thats the same thing. theres the volume control applet in the bar, and theres an actual settings app within the system menu on the top left
[22:05] <solcyto> kll: arriba donde esta ubuntu
[22:05] <solcyto> ?
[22:06] <param__> yes i have checked, i have increase all volumes in the sound settings to 100 %
[22:06] <k1l> solcyto: en el que escribe todo el tiempo puramente
[22:07] <pvl1> param__: what devices is it using
[22:07] <solcyto> kll: gracias te lo agradesco pero ahora q hago
[22:08] <solcyto> ?
[22:08] <param__> Analog Output / Build in Audio     Anallog Input   Build in audio
[22:08] <param__> for output and input i mentioned
[22:09] <solcyto> kll:ayudame por favor
[22:10] <pvl1> param__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[22:11] <k1l> solcyto: please write in english in here. if you want to write in spanish please join the #ubuntu-es channel
[22:11] <Neikius> hello, having some problems installing mysql server; this is exactly the same problem:http://askubuntu.com/questions/261250/dpkg-invoke-rc-d-initscript-mysql-action-start-failed/ - my problem is that the suggested solution (purging mysql-common) doesn't seem so bright, upwards of 60 kde packages are dependant on it...
[22:12] <TauNeutrino> hey gays I want to create a diagram with libre calc with like 29 entries(a pie chart) but it only shows like 13 and some have the same freaking color ;/
[22:13] <dcotet> yo
[22:13] <skilo> is this channel only for servers?
[22:14] <pvl1> no
[22:14] <skilo> when will the devs fix that annoying screen brightness issue? it's been around since well... as long as i can remember
[22:15] <TauNeutrino> helloooow
[22:15] <k1l> skilo: no, this is ubuntu support. but we have #ubuntu-servers for more server related issue
[22:15] <k1l> *issues
[22:15] <gianko> trism: there's something I don't understand now, I added the ddeb repos and apt-cache search shows the dbgsym package, for libapache2-mod-* but not for all of them. For example, no symbol packages for apache2-mpm-worker or -prefork
[22:15] <TauNeutrino> hey penguin fetischists
[22:15] <_dan_> ok so, after 9.10 -> 10.04 upgrade, lost my ssh, but apparently it fixed itself after a couple of reboots
[22:15] <_dan_> according to wiki 10.04 is still supported?
[22:16] <skilo> i actually have a fix for the screen brightness thing here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/381730/how-to-fix-the-screen-being-to-bright-in-ubuntu-12-04-and-up/382268#382268
[22:16] <_dan_> i can't find openjdk 7 though
[22:16] <k1l> !guidelines > TauNeutrino please make sure you read them and stick to them when you are in the #ubuntu channels
[22:16] <TauNeutrino> ?
[22:17] <gianko> trism: I doublechecked in http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/a/apache2/ and the -dbgsym for apache2-mpm-worker is in there
[22:17] <TauNeutrino> not sure what do you want to say, I asked a normal freaking question
[22:18] <randolph`> #libreoffice
[22:18] <TauNeutrino> I know
[22:18] <TauNeutrino> it's pretty quit there for a long time
[22:18] <trism> gianko: yeah that is kind of strange, you may end up having to just rebuild it yourself with nostrip
[22:18] <ptyyy> Hi guys, I've suddenly got no access to the right click context menu on the desktop. Running 13.10 with unity. Any idea what I may have done?
[22:19] <TauNeutrino> ;D haha
[22:19] <trism> gianko: I'm actually looking through there and it doesn't seem like all the precise ones are there, only later ones for raring
[22:20] <mainmeister> \
[22:20] <skilo> what are the chances of us getting kernel 3.13 in ubuntu 13.10?
[22:21] <k1l> skilo: with mainline kernels but not official kernel upgrades in final releases
[22:21] <skilo> wut
[22:21] <k1l> skilo: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[22:23] <skilo> seems kinda risky, Might break stuff
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: im on 14
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: wait i lied
[22:23] <pvl1> skilo: 3.11.0-14
[22:23] <skilo> 14 dies not exist yet lol
[22:23] <k1l> skilo: that is on own risk, yes.
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> skilo: you could install kernel 3.13 though it's RC phase
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> as in it's still testing
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> kernel 3.12 is stable
[22:24] <skilo> i want those power saving features to help battery life
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> skilo: that's why I'm using kernel 3.12 myself
[22:24] <Ari-Yang> Akaigo-Arc 3.12.0-031200-generic x86_64 Description: Ubuntu 12.10 Codename: quantal
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what graphics card do you have? is this laptop or desktop?
[22:25] <gianko> trism: mmmh... look in any case here is the error upon "fakeroot apt-get source -b apache2" with DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug nostrip" and DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND="-finstrument-functions" set: http://pastebin.com/nj7UEQW6
[22:25] <k1l> skilo: 14.04 will get a 3.12 kernel with some 3..13 backports. but that is all still no stable. so as enduser you have to wait anyway
[22:25] <skilo> i have intel hd integrated graphics
[22:25] <skilo> ubuntu detects it as "Sandy bridge"
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what ubuntu version?
[22:26] <skilo> 13.10
[22:26] <trism> gianko: don't see any error there
[22:26] <trism> gianko: might have missed stderr
[22:27] <gianko> trism: you are rightr, sorry I gave you the wrong log
[22:27] <bekks> skilo: you have an Intel Sandy Bridge CPU - so thats expected.
[22:27] <skilo> everything is intel on my laptop
[22:27] <Ari-Yang> skilo: hmmmm.... I'm not sure if dpm (referring to radeon's dynamic power management) works with intel.... but seeing how you have 13.10, which uses kernel 3.11, you could try to enable dpm
[22:27] <skilo> intel wifi intel pentium b40 cpu inte hd graphics
[22:27] <bekks> skilo: yes, and?
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> skilo: open up terminal, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[22:28] <bekks> skilo: "Sandy Bridge" is the Intel code name for your CPU generation.
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> skilo: no wait....
[22:29] <universal> kernel panic.....what to do ?
[22:29] <Ari-Yang> skilo: yeah I don't think radeon's dpm will work at all
[22:29] <skilo> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:29] <bekks> skilo: so you have an intel gpu.
[22:29] <skilo> everything is intel on my laptop
[22:29] <bekks> skilo: And...?
[22:30] <bekks> skilo: So whats the issue at that point?
[22:30] <skilo> no issue
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if your gpu is intel, there's no point unless you got a radeon.
[22:30] <skilo> i just heard the new kernel 3.13 will have new power saving features
[22:30] <skilo> and i want them
[22:30] <k1l> skilo: i showed you your options. either you take mainline kernel builds with own risk (or compile own kernels) or you wait for 14.04 or 14.10 to get official ubuntu support
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> skilo: for what graphics card? intel, radeon, or nvidia?
[22:31] <Ari-Yang> or all three?
[22:31] <hovalhydro> did jupiter power management project die?
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO_> skilo: 3.12 has new intel power management, 3.13 has new radeon power management. the intel power management in 3.11 is the best you'll get
[22:31] <skilo> i read somewhere that ubuntu 14.04 will have 3.13 kernel is that true?
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO_> skilo: 3.12 has new nvidia power management, 3.13 has new radeon power management. the intel power management in 3.11 is the best you'll get
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: "you heard" something. but even kernel 3.13 is not final now. so how should ubuntu give some official support for what is not even made final now?
[22:32] <skilo> because i want it
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: as i said you: ubuntu 14.04 will have 3.12 with some backports
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> skilo: you can download and install kernel 3.13-rc2 from here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.13-rc2-trusty/
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> skilo: are you on 64bit?
[22:32] <k1l> skilo: what you want doesnt change the options that i told you got
[22:32] <skilo> yes
[22:33] <gianko> trism, here http://pastebin.com/pqLn6rSu
[22:33] <skilo> im going to call shuttleworth and tell him i want the new 3.13 kernel in ubuntu 14.04
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> skilo: okay, so then you'd download the headers amd64, headers all, and image amd64. Throw it all into a folder, cd into it with terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[22:33] <k1l> skilo: good luck with that.
[22:34] <jessic1> I can't seem to kill a process (that I stopped with ctrl-z)
[22:34] <jessic1> when I use: ps aux | grep ubuntu
[22:34] <jessic1> it shows the process
[22:34] <skilo> but it will probably break stuff
[22:34] <jessic1> the 1st column with numbers is the pid correct?
[22:34] <Ari-Yang> skilo: it may or may not
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if you aren't using any proprietary drivers, you should be good
[22:35] <jessic1> I execute: sudo kill pid, but the process is still there
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: if you are, then I suggest you switch over to open source
[22:35] <Ari-Yang> skilo: that's what I did before installing kernel 3.10 on ubuntu 12.10, make sure all the drivers were set to open source
[22:35] <skilo> all my drivers are included with the kernel since intel is opensource
[22:35] <bekks> jessic1: are you still in the same terminal where you started it?
[22:36] <skilo> i may not bother with it, My battery life is ok now i get about 3 hours, It's mainly watching videos that kills my battery
[22:37] <jessic1> bekks, I think so. I sshed into my server. I ran a python script, pressed ctrl+z to stop it, then I tried to kill the process as I described
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> skilo: perhaps use....vaapi (ew)when watching videos?
[22:37] <jessic1> but it is still there
[22:37] <Ari-Yang> skilo: what video player do you use?
[22:37] <skilo> i use VLC
[22:37] <bekks> jessic1: press fg, then press ctrl c
[22:38] <jessic1> bekks that did the trick! but why?
[22:38] <trism> gianko: that's weird, I still don't see an error there other than it saying 'Error', I'm gonna have to look at the precise package, I'll let you know if I find anything
[22:38] <Ari-Yang> skilo: VLc...oh :V well look into using vaapi with vlc. Or you can install mpv, fork of mplayer/mplayer2 that I  highly recommend
[22:38] <Snake2k> jessic1: you can view the running processes via 'jobs' then sudo killall -9 -v {thatthing}
[22:39] <skilo> well right now im using Xubuntu so i have vlc and parole
[22:39] <bekks> jessic1: The process was in the background and it was not allowed for him to do something in the background. Not even killing himself.
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: ctrl+z doesn
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: ctrl+z doesn't kill it
[22:39] <hovalhydro> I am kind of stuck with VLC, it seems to be the only player that plays everything. Also it can record streaming video.
[22:39] <jessic1> ahh ok, so bg means background, and ctrl+c is to kill
[22:39] <TinoDidriksen> Does Server 13.10 still do the annoying NIC re-labelling if you move the installation to a different machine with a different NIC?
[22:39] <Snake2k> jessic1: Yep
[22:42] <Ari-Yang> skilo: k, look into using vaapi with vlc... also run apt-get install vainfo pastebinit then run vainfo | pastebinit and then link
[22:45] <motaka2> hello what would you do if you encounter this? http://codepaste.net/pqy42h
[22:45] <skilo> ok
[22:46] <oz0ne> motaka2: 'apt-get -f install'
[22:50] <motaka2> oz0ne: I did that still errors
[22:50] <hovalhydro> motaka2: paste errors?
[22:51] <motaka2> hovalhydro: trying to do
[22:52] <motaka2> hovalhydro: http://tny.cz/a21ca6d8
[22:55] <trism> gianko: I guess it must be failing in that script following the dh_strip line, but since [ "Ubuntu" != "Ubuntu" ] should be false, I don't see why it would be evaluated at all...I'm building with nostrip now to see if it fails for me too
[22:56] <donttrustem> can anyone help …. I am running lucid http://pastebin.com/bfnhMZrZ
[22:57] <micael> ciao
[22:57] <donttrustem> looks this is the problem warning: gmp.h: No such file or directory  but I am not sure what lib it would be
[22:57] <trism> donttrustem: you probably need libgmp-dev
[22:57] <donttrustem> yeah … but I cannot install it
[22:58] <donttrustem> E: Couldn't find package libgmp-dev
[22:58] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: can you build in a VM?
[22:59] <donttrustem> hovalhydro: ?
[22:59] <hovalhydro> hovalhydro: or some kind of chroot environment? I assume you arent allowed to uprade lucid itself?
[22:59] <trism> donttrustem: apt-cache search -n libgmp dev;
[23:00] <donttrustem> trism: llibgmp3-dev
[23:00] <gianko> trism: is it possible that dh_strip fails?
[23:00] <geirha> gianko, trism: It's missing a semicolon after set -e
[23:01] <trism> geirha: if that were the issue, shouldn't the package fail to build?
[23:01] <oz0ne> motaka2: could it be that you are oft of storage? anyway do you need thunderbird?
[23:02] <gianko> geirha, trism: I'm checking if adding ; to rules would fix
[23:03] <Elementofme> HEY GUYS MY NAME IS JOHN N HOW YALL DOING?
[23:03] <donttrustem> trism: looks good man …. thanks for your help … well it is compling at the moment and has not failed yet
[23:04] <donttrustem> spoke to soon main_poolminer.cpp:19:31: warning: boost/uuid/sha1.hpp: No such file or directory
[23:05] <hovalhydro> bleh, boost. i assume you've installed it? i dontn know version lucid ships though
[23:06] <donttrustem> yeah
[23:06] <hovalhydro> we can't use boost, so afraid i cant help
[23:06] <donttrustem> why
[23:06] <geirha> trism: Don't know. Just spotted an make+sh error
[23:07] <gianko> trism, geirha : it did work
[23:07] <donttrustem> why can we not use boot
[23:07] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: boost doesnt support some the platforms we target
[23:07] <donttrustem> boost
[23:07] <geirha> Personally, I'd remove the set -e. It's generally a bad idea to use it.
[23:07] <hovalhydro> donttrustem: I mean me/my organisation, not this channel :-)
[23:08] <donttrustem> ah OK
[23:08] <motaka2> oz0ne: yes ia m using it daily as my mail client
[23:10] <oz0ne> motaka2: it was gzip that failed to open the filedescriptor, to extract the upgrade of thunderbird. So try to purge the cache with apt-get clean
[23:11] <oz0ne> motaka2: then try apt-get -f install
[23:12] <motaka2> oz0ne: should I close thunderbird before running it? will my emails be lost ?
[23:12] <oz0ne> think it shouldn't mather
[23:12] <oz0ne> and no that shouldn't hurt your emails
[23:13] <motaka2> oz0ne: it seems to be reinstalling or downloading s=thunderbird'
[23:14] <motaka2> lemme close thunderbird and then I will chat with you with chat zilla
[23:14] <oz0ne> yes it might redownload it now, as it got told to remove the one it got cached
[23:15] <gianko> trism, geirha, the fix worked... thank you both for your help, appreciated :) now I file a bug report and for today I am done
[23:19] <trism> gianko: good to hear, and good eye for geirha...now I'm just gonna be curious why it didn't fail to build on launchpad
[23:20] <hassen> haha..when I learn any new thing(and keep learning)about IT/linux/programming/tricks i feel proud and happy and ready to move on for new stuff,while when i play(get stuck at gaming) i feel regretful especially when looking at the time or the concentration i've  spent on gaming
[23:27] <universal> how to find out if a newer kernel is available for update and how to download and update it ?
[23:28] <k1l> universal: "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:28] <universal> k1l: thats for full system update but I only want kernel update
[23:30] <k1l> universal: run the apt-get update and see which kernels are available (with apt-cache search linux-image) and then install that package
[23:32] <universal> http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=225664c k1l
[23:33] <k1l> universal: did you run "sudo apt-get update" ?
[23:33] <universal> k1l: not now
[23:33] <universal> k1l: is it necessary ?
[23:34] <k1l> yes. it updates the package listing. without that you will not see what new packages are available
[23:34] <universal> ok
[23:34] <naillwind> has anyone experience that apt-get update is hanging on.. "0% [Connecting to nl.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:7b8:3:37:213:136:29:218)] [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::18)]" and later one eg. "97% [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1360:8c01::15)]" ?
[23:35] <universal> k1l: is there any problem like system malfunction or instability if I update only kernel ?
[23:35] <picca> naillwind: somebody will have
[23:35] <naillwind> or something similar who can help me understand why?
[23:35] <k1l> universal: if you update only kernel you are missing all security updates
[23:35] <gordonjcp> naillwind: possibly those mirrors are broken
[23:35] <universal> naillwind: maybe server problem.....change server and try again
[23:35] <ikonia> naillwind: looks like your dns is broken
[23:36] <ikonia> naillwind: that resolves to ubuntuarchive.bit.nl which is 213.136.29.218
[23:36] <ikonia> you appear to be connecting to an IP6 adress
[23:36] <ikonia> address
[23:36] <naillwind> the dns is from a vps provider, if the dns is broken, then would it be possible somewhere to tell it to connect to something that is working?
[23:37] <ikonia> naillwind: re-read what I just said
[23:38] <universal> k1l: hmm....but I can install security updates afterwards or not ?
[23:38] <naillwind> ikonia: thanks I got it, what you wrote makes sense, now I need to find out how to not automatically have it connect to an IP6 address
[23:38] <ikonia> naillwind: talk to your dns provider....
[23:38] <_NerdyMe_> Help please! Im on version 13.10. I get the login screen, type my credentials, hit enter and then it goes into a black screen where i still can see my mouse. Somebody can help?
[23:38] <k1l> universal: the security updates come as regular updates in ubuntu. so if you dont update besides the kernel, you are missing the security updates
[23:39] <bcuda_> How can I, in Ubuntu, enable a 3 button mouse with a 1 button mouse? I see tons of methods with a 2button mouse but this touchpad barely works using the left click (jumps everyware completely unstable in windows and linux alike.)?
[23:39] <universal> k1l: ok...the motive behind my only kernel update - kernel panic several times
[23:40] <bcuda_> _NerdyMe_: did you just update or change anything?
[23:42] <motaka2> oz0ne: it is downloading
[23:43] <_NerdyMe_> bcuda_: i got the laptop a week ago from system 76 preinstalled with 13.10
[23:44] <oz0ne> motaka2: so it works now?
[23:45] <motaka2> oz0ne: the download is not yet fiished
[23:46] <motaka2> should I run apt-get install php5-sqlite   now?
[23:46] <bcuda_> _NerdyMe_: i see. did you just update or install anything?
[23:46] <bcuda_> or did you have updates set to automatic?
[23:47] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, There is a system76 area on the ubuntu forums if needed.
[23:48] <Beldar> the actual developers from them check the posts
[23:48] <_NerdyMe_> It is completely Updated. I have installed in the last couple of days many things (db, vmware, browsers, skype, teamviewer, ccsm etc)
[23:49] <SaveME> !ops
[23:49] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, Have you messed around in compiz?
[23:50] <_NerdyMe_> Only activated wobbly windows. Worked so far since i did it. A way to reset everything?
[23:51] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[23:51] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, May need a reboot to finalize
[23:52] <Beldar> _NerdyMe_, You can do it from  tty from the desktop ctrl-f1
[23:52] <Beldar> ctrl-alt-f1 sorry
[23:53] <Danato> is there a command to list all the kernel files installed?
[23:54] <ikonia> "list all the kernel files" - the kernel is 1 file
[23:55] <Danato> ikonia: I mean, linux-headers, linux-image, linux-firmware, etc
[23:55] <ikonia> Danato: dpkg -l | grep linux-
[23:56] <_NerdyMe_> Dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ gives the meaasage"error: spawning command line ...etc... child process exited with code 1"
[23:57] <Danato> ikonia: yup that should do it, thanks
[23:58] <_NerdyMe_> Dbus-launch --autolaunch=BIGSERIESOFDIGITS --bunary-syntax --close-stderr
[23:58] <naillwind> ikonia+: thanks, helped sort it :)