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| pitti | Good morning | 05:43 |
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| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 08:44 |
| didrocks | hey seb128! | 08:47 |
| didrocks | good week-end? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey! yes, you ? | 08:47 |
| didrocks | same here, quiet but nice :) | 08:48 |
| seb128 | quiet is good ;-) | 08:51 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128, ça va / | 09:00 |
| pitti | ? | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, salut, ça va bien et toi ? | 09:02 |
| pitti | seb128: je vais bien aussi, merci ! nous avons eu un bon week-end | 09:03 |
| seb128 | pitti, le Stollen est très bon, encore merci ! | 09:03 |
| pitti | seb128: de rien ! nous avons mangé le premier stollen hier aussi *yummy* | 09:04 |
| Laney | hey ho | 09:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you ? | 09:04 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you? nice we? | 09:04 |
| pitti | "weekend" | 09:04 |
| seb128 | pitti, *yummy* indeed ;-) | 09:04 |
| Laney | hey seb128 pitti | 09:04 |
| pitti | seb128: il était très bien après 4 heures de travail dans le jardin :) | 09:05 |
| Laney | was nice thank you, played my new games a bit | 09:05 |
| Laney | also got a grand new christmas jumper | 09:05 |
| pitti | err, "jumper"? that must mean something different than what I think | 09:06 |
| Laney | pulli | 09:06 |
| pitti | oh | 09:06 |
| pitti | right on time for the frost and snow :0 | 09:06 |
| Laney | not the electrical component :P | 09:07 |
| larsu | so I can't install updates through update-manager anymore | 09:34 |
| larsu | "You are not allowed to perform this action" | 09:35 |
| larsu | I'm still in the admin group | 09:35 |
| larsu | seb128 says it might be a problem with my polkit?! | 09:35 |
| seb128 | larsu, pkcheck might help to see if things are alright there | 09:36 |
| larsu | hm, that string is nowhere to be found in update-manager :-/ | 09:37 |
| seb128 | pkcheck seems buggy, it always opens me the manpage | 09:38 |
| * seb128 tried pkcheck --action-id org.debian.apt.upgrade-packages | 09:38 | |
| seb128 | or --help | 09:38 |
| larsu | I tried with --process <PID>, but that makes it crash | 09:39 |
| seb128 | larsu, do you have policykit-desktop-privileges installed? | 09:39 |
| larsu | seb128: yes: 0.16 | 09:40 |
| pitti | seb128: FTR, running with gtk 3.10 here since Sat, and the only regression that I noticed is that the ssh/gpg password dialogs are now very wide (not word wrapped any more) | 09:40 |
| larsu | passing action id and pid make pkcheck return 0 | 09:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks, that's a known issue/mclasen fixed it in git this w.e | 09:40 |
| larsu | pitti: solved last night ;) | 09:40 |
| pitti | nice | 09:41 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks for testing it ;-) | 09:41 |
| seb128 | larsu, I tried | 09:41 |
| seb128 | pkcheck --action-id org.debian.apt.upgrade-packages --process `pidof update-manager` | 09:41 |
| seb128 | but that opens the manpage still | 09:41 |
| larsu | heh, not for me | 09:41 |
| larsu | with the reverse order of arguments | 09:41 |
| larsu | but that hopefully doesn't matter… | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: then pidof update-manager fails and returns nothing | 09:41 |
| pitti | seb128: try with $$ | 09:42 |
| seb128 | larsu, | 09:42 |
| seb128 | $ pkaction --verbose --action-id org.debian.apt.upgrade-packages | 09:42 |
| larsu | ah right, I pasted the actual pid | 09:42 |
| larsu | seb128: that opens the man pagew | 09:42 |
| pitti | seb128: if it's running, use pidof -x update-manager | 09:42 |
| seb128 | pitti, larsu: yeah, my fault, of course the process is python... | 09:43 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 09:43 |
| seb128 | larsu, what are you trying to do exactly in update-manager? | 09:43 |
| larsu | hm, update-manager also shows me packages to update that apt-get upgrade doesn't | 09:43 |
| larsu | seb128: update... | 09:43 |
| seb128 | normal ones? | 09:43 |
| larsu | yep | 09:43 |
| larsu | just the window that pops up when updates are available | 09:44 |
| larsu | I didn't even start it manually | 09:44 |
| seb128 | I wonder if the environment of that process is wrong | 09:44 |
| seb128 | can you "strings /proc/`pidof -x update-manager`/environ" and pastebin that? | 09:45 |
| seb128 | larsu, ^^ | 09:45 |
| larsu | the packages it wants to install are "fakeroot" and "libfakeroot" | 09:45 |
| larsu | apt-get upgrade doesn't want to do that | 09:45 |
| pitti | seb128: oh, and telepathy-gabble is broken now (immediately crashes at startup), not sure whether that's GTK; filing/looking at trace now | 09:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't know about that one, I doubt it's gtk though, telepathy connectors are non UI bits | 09:45 |
| larsu | seb128: http://paste.debian.net/68834/ | 09:45 |
| pitti | right | 09:46 |
| seb128 | larsu, env seems alright :/ | 09:46 |
| larsu | seb128: I think the problem is the packages it wants to install | 09:46 |
| pitti | seb128: control center seems to have a similar (no word wrap/too wide) issue, try security&privacy | 09:47 |
| seb128 | larsu, what action does it try to do? | 09:47 |
| seb128 | larsu, can you screenshot the error? | 09:47 |
| larsu | seb128: it's just a message dialog with the string I pasted earlier | 09:47 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, that issue is all dialogs | 09:47 |
| seb128 | larsu, seeing the dialog would help to say if it's polkit or update-manager | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, mclasen fixed it in gtk git, not in the keyring dialog git? | 09:47 |
| larsu | seb128: ah okay | 09:48 |
| seb128 | larsu, I wonder if you are simply seeing an update-manager error because e.g those packages are un-authentificated for some reason | 09:48 |
| larsu | pitti: yeah, there was a global "don't make windows wider than 640px" in there which Company removed | 09:48 |
| pitti | larsu: ack, thanks | 09:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, right, https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?h=gtk-3-10&id=2436627eb4644234a9e577538ec334d224e3d2be | 09:48 |
| larsu | pitti: which is obviously a correct fix, but we should wait to fix all the things it breaks before applying it :) | 09:49 |
| larsu | seb128: http://imgur.com/CUuWFrv | 09:49 |
| seb128 | larsu, good that I asked, that's not a polit dialog :p | 09:50 |
| pitti | larsu: right, like https://git.gnome.org/browse/gtk+/commit/?id=b53b5578f | 09:50 |
| larsu | seb128: really? I can't find this string in update-manager's source either | 09:51 |
| seb128 | larsu, it's in aptdaemon | 09:51 |
| seb128 | that's the backend update-manager is using | 09:51 |
| seb128 | ERROR_NOT_AUTHORIZED: _("You are not allowed to perform this action"), | 09:52 |
| larsu | ah! | 09:52 |
| larsu | does it have something to do with the fact that apt-get upgrade doesn't want to install the new fakeroot? | 09:53 |
| larsu | let me try installing that manually | 09:53 |
| larsu | ya, that totally worked | 09:53 |
| seb128 | my bet is that it's going to come from an unauthentificated repository or something | 09:53 |
| seb128 | weird | 09:53 |
| seb128 | is aptd running? | 09:53 |
| larsu | yes | 09:54 |
| seb128 | do you still have the issue now that you apt-get installed it? | 09:55 |
| larsu | no, there's nothing more to install | 09:55 |
| larsu | I'll have a look again later | 09:55 |
| larsu | seb128: thanks for your help so far! | 09:55 |
| seb128 | larsu, yw | 09:56 |
| larsu | seb128: the commit pitti linked to doesn't fix the issue for everything. I'm running the same since Friday. | 09:57 |
| larsu | many apps have custom message dialogs, for example gedit | 09:57 |
| pitti | larsu: no, there's another one for a different standard dialog, and similar fixes need to be added to every dialog which has that issue | 09:57 |
| seb128 | larsu, see the one I listed | 09:57 |
| pitti | that was just one example | 09:57 |
| seb128 | just before pitti | 09:57 |
| larsu | ah got it | 09:58 |
| pitti | the commit seb128 pointed to fixes it for everything, but AFAIUI it's just a bandaid for the stable 3.10 branc | 09:58 |
| pitti | that isn't in 3.11.x | 09:58 |
| seb128 | right | 09:58 |
| larsu | makes sense | 09:58 |
| seb128 | 3.10 is what we target for the LTS though | 09:58 |
| seb128 | so if that works that's going enough for now | 09:58 |
| seb128 | we should still fix apps though | 09:58 |
| larsu | famous last words | 09:58 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:58 |
| seb128 | it's only code, what could go wrong | 09:59 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 09:59 |
| larsu | haha | 10:00 |
| === Sweetsha1k is now known as Sweetshark | ||
| seb128 | pitti, did you get the gabble bt? | 10:47 |
| pitti | seb128: I sent it to errors, but I don't see it on "my reports", werid | 10:48 |
| seb128 | pitti, e.u.c/whoopsie seem buggy | 10:48 |
| pitti | ah, again missing .uploaded; go whoopsie | 10:48 |
| seb128 | didrocks reported some rb issue on friday that never made it to e.u.c either | 10:48 |
| pitti | https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/53d057e6-5b3f-11e3-91f0-2c768aafd08c | 10:49 |
| pitti | one needs to restart whoopsie, its inotify handling is broken | 10:49 |
| seb128 | what do you mean "missing .uploaded"? is whoopsie failing to report issues when tell it to do so? | 10:49 |
| seb128 | shrug | 10:49 |
| pitti | right | 10:49 |
| pitti | seb128: above is my report, it has the trace | 10:49 |
| seb128 | yeah, looking at that | 10:50 |
| pitti | "Source ID 4 was not found when attempting to remove it" | 10:50 |
| pitti | seb128: so, certainly not GTK related, more likely the new glib becoming stricter | 10:50 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you make glib abort on errors? | 10:51 |
| pitti | seb128: not that I know of; it's a CRITICAL | 10:52 |
| pitti | so far we didn't abort on those, but maybe telepathy sets that | 10:52 |
| seb128 | pitti, seems like https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/commit/?id=a919be3d39150328874ff647fb2c2be7af3df996 | 10:53 |
| seb128 | that shouldn't sigabrt though | 10:53 |
| seb128 | (doesn't for me) | 10:53 |
| seb128 | (or maybe I just didn't run into that error with gabble) | 10:53 |
| pitti | #ifdef ENABLE_FATAL_CRITICALS | 10:54 |
| pitti | /* make critical warnings fatal */ | 10:54 |
| pitti | fatal_mask = g_log_set_always_fatal (G_LOG_FATAL_MASK); | 10:54 |
| pitti | fatal_mask |= G_LOG_LEVEL_CRITICAL; | 10:54 |
| pitti | g_log_set_always_fatal (fatal_mask); | 10:54 |
| pitti | #endif | 10:54 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so gabble at least supports that mode | 10:54 |
| pitti | seb128: and according to configure.ac it defaults to yes | 10:55 |
| seb128 | hum, k | 10:55 |
| seb128 | pitti, can you report the gabble issue to https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Telepathy ? | 10:56 |
| pitti | seb128: yes, will do | 10:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, danke | 10:56 |
| seb128 | we should probably turn that flag off in the package as well | 10:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, oh, found an issue with your theme change | 10:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, if you search in nautilus, the default/first returned item is wrongly colored | 10:57 |
| larsu | seb128: ah, also when the window is unfocussed | 10:58 |
| seb128 | right | 10:58 |
| seb128 | I noticed alt-tabbing | 10:58 |
| larsu | are you sure this is an issue with my change? It seems unrelated to backgrounds | 10:58 |
| desrt | pitti: so... how's them suspends? | 10:58 |
| seb128 | desrt, good early morning! | 10:59 |
| desrt | seb128: good .. afternoon yet? | 10:59 |
| desrt | 1 more minute? :) | 10:59 |
| seb128 | desrt, not sure I would describe 12 as "afternoon" | 10:59 |
| seb128 | the afternoon is after lunch :p | 10:59 |
| larsu | seb128: it is indeed. I just tested. | 11:00 |
| * larsu hates css | 11:00 | |
| seb128 | larsu, :-( | 11:00 |
| larsu | this seems totally unrelated | 11:00 |
| desrt | seb128: time for an english lesson... ;) | 11:00 |
| seb128 | haha | 11:00 |
| desrt | the etymology of the word afternoon is "after noon". | 11:00 |
| desrt | woh | 11:01 |
| desrt | TIL: forenoon is a thing | 11:01 |
| larsu | s/is/was? | 11:01 |
| desrt | it has a wikipedia page, so is...? | 11:02 |
| larsu | sounds like something Queen Vicoria would have said when she was a child | 11:02 |
| larsu | *Victoria | 11:02 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 11:02 |
| desrt | and... "forenoon" != "fore noon" and "afternoon" != "after noon" as wikipedia is happy to point out | 11:02 |
| desrt | if you put the space in there then it goes all the way to midnight (either side) | 11:02 |
| desrt | without the space it typically refers only to daylight hours | 11:02 |
| larsu | so the afternoon is shorter in the winter? | 11:03 |
| larsu | and the evening starts at 4? | 11:04 |
| desrt | it also notes that the term has no precise definition :p | 11:04 |
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| ogra_ | seb128, Laney ... is that known ? http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/evo-theme.png ... got it with msy latest trusty upgrade last week | 12:38 |
| seb128 | ogra_, seems like a theme issue, I think Laney mentioned it before uploading evo 3.10 | 12:38 |
| ogra_ | k | 12:39 |
| larsu | this looks like the issue I had in gedit | 12:53 |
| larsu | seb128: are my theme changes already uploaded? | 12:53 |
| seb128 | larsu, no, neither is gtk 3.10 | 12:53 |
| larsu | ah | 12:54 |
| larsu | so that's not it then :) | 12:54 |
| seb128 | not likely no ;-) | 12:54 |
| seb128 | larsu, do we still need gtk patches for o-s btw? (#gtk+) | 12:55 |
| larsu | seb128: thanks | 12:56 |
| seb128 | larsu, thank you ;-) | 12:56 |
| larsu | seb128: are you okay if I put the nautilus fix on the same MR? | 13:02 |
| seb128 | larsu, nautilus fix for? | 13:02 |
| seb128 | oh, the icon color | 13:02 |
| larsu | seb128: the black icon when unfocussed | 13:02 |
| seb128 | no problem | 13:02 |
| Laney | mmm, I see a suspicious change in evo | 13:03 |
| seb128 | Laney, one that requires to adapt themes | 13:03 |
| seb128 | ? | 13:03 |
| * mterry stares at seb128 to review welcome-wizard | 13:11 | |
| mterry | seb128, I'm in (near?) your timezone! | 13:11 |
| seb128 | mterry, hey, how is London ? | 13:11 |
| mterry | seb128, grey | 13:11 |
| seb128 | stating the obvious there... | 13:12 |
| larsu | seb128: it's up if you want to have a look. https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/ubuntu-themes/dont-set-all-bgs/+merge/197234 | 13:12 |
| seb128 | larsu, danke | 13:12 |
| * seb128 stares at mterry | 13:18 | |
| * mterry goes back to fighting Mir | 13:19 | |
| seb128 | mterry, you are speaking about https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/ubuntu-system-settings/welcome-wizard/+merge/186862 ? | 13:19 |
| mterry | seb128, yeah | 13:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, I reviewed that a week ago, it's Needs fixing | 13:19 |
| mterry | seb128, ? | 13:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, I don't see anything happening since? | 13:19 |
| mterry | seb128, huh! I didn't get an email for that | 13:19 |
| seb128 | mterry, well, basically I'm waiting on your guys to reply to my question/address my first review comments... | 13:20 |
| mterry | seb128, makes sesne | 13:20 |
| seb128 | mterry, that's probably because you down own the branch, it's a team one | 13:20 |
| seb128 | down->don't | 13:20 |
| mterry | seb128, fair | 13:20 |
| mterry | I can't seem to subscribe to just one merge request | 13:21 |
| mterry | :( | 13:21 |
| seb128 | mterry, you can add you to the reviewers list as workaround I think | 13:21 |
| mterry | ah, I go to the branch itself | 13:21 |
| cyphermox | good morning! | 13:26 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, hey, how are you? | 13:27 |
| cyphermox | seb128: fabulous, and you? | 13:30 |
| cyphermox | it's going to be even more of an awesome day if I receive my SensorTag today, so I can start to work on 4.0/LE bluetooth | 13:31 |
| seb128 | cyphermox, I'm good thanks ;-) | 13:34 |
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| larsu | seb128: can I keep pushing stuff into my gtk 3.10 repo or did you make any further changes? | 14:07 |
| larsu | I've finally fixed the settings install thing | 14:07 |
| seb128 | larsu, I did tweaks for the ppa upload | 14:08 |
| larsu | seb128: did you upload them into a bzr repo? | 14:08 |
| sil2100 | kenvandine: hello :) | 14:09 |
| seb128 | larsu, same lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gtk/ubuntugtk310 | 14:09 |
| larsu | seb128: so can I consider my repo as merged and do new MRs on top of that one? | 14:11 |
| seb128 | larsu, yes | 14:11 |
| larsu | s/repo/branch | 14:11 |
| kenvandine | good morning sil2100 | 14:13 |
| seb128 | hey kenvandine, how are you? had a good w.e? | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | yup | 14:13 |
| kenvandine | and you? | 14:13 |
| seb128 | same ;-) | 14:14 |
| larsu | seb128: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/gtk/properly-fix-settings-hacks/+merge/197379 | 14:20 |
| larsu | that should fix the problem :) | 14:21 |
| seb128 | grrrrrrr | 14:23 |
| seb128 | grrrrr | 14:23 |
| seb128 | I can't even commit changes today, gedit keeps hitting those gdk_window_has_native assert errors | 14:24 |
| seb128 | larsu, ok, merged, thanks! | 14:24 |
| larsu | seb128: that only happens with overlay-scrollbars, right? | 14:25 |
| * larsu can't reproduce it | 14:25 | |
| seb128 | larsu, I guess, I didn't try disabling those | 14:25 |
| larsu | if you have steps to reproduce, please let me know | 14:25 |
| seb128 | larsu, EDITOR=gedit bzr commit is doing it half of the time here | 14:26 |
| seb128 | like it took me 4 tries to be able to commit your gtk merge | 14:26 |
| Sweetshark | .oO(obvious fix: EDITOR=gvim) | 14:27 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, you don't edit with writer? ;-) | 14:27 |
| larsu | seb128: doesn't happen for me, but I do see warnings | 14:27 |
| larsu | GtkScrolledWindow 0xc67880 is mapped but visible child GtkScrollbar 0xc62ed0 is not mapped | 14:27 |
| seb128 | larsu, right, those are not new, they are there half of the time since saucy | 14:27 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: only when I have a table of contents in my commit message. | 14:28 |
| seb128 | larsu, the assert is happening when I close gedit btw | 14:28 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, so... never? ;-) | 14:28 |
| larsu | seb128: ah, before it saves I assume | 14:28 |
| larsu | I'm trying for the 20th time or so, works | 14:28 |
| seb128 | :-( | 14:28 |
| seb128 | I'm back on gtk 3.8 from trusty though, I wonder if that makes a difference | 14:29 |
| seb128 | let me try with 3.10.5 | 14:29 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: Indeed I cant remember having the need for that. | 14:29 |
| larsu | seb128: can you try that and also with GTK_MODULES= to disable o-s | 14:30 |
| larsu | just to check if that'S the problerm | 14:30 |
| larsu | *problem | 14:30 |
| seb128 | larsu, sure can try, but knowing it started the day you made the o-s native, it's too much of a coincidence to be something else | 14:31 |
| larsu | ah okay | 14:31 |
| larsu | sigh | 14:31 |
| seb128 | larsu, shrug, can't reproduce, let me try with gtk 3.8.7 again to see | 14:32 |
| seb128 | larsu, got it on the second try with 3.8 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | didn't get it with 10 tries with 3.10 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | so maybe it's fixed in 3.10 | 14:32 |
| seb128 | larsu, it seems to have something to do with the warnings you see | 14:34 |
| seb128 | larsu, with 3.8 if I get the warning I get the segfault on closing | 14:34 |
| seb128 | I never got it without having the warning before | 14:34 |
| seb128 | with gtk 3.10 I get the warnings but no segfault | 14:34 |
| larsu | seb128: okay, I'll investigate the warning. | 14:35 |
| larsu | not having it is better anyway :) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:35 |
| seb128 | right, those are annoying me for a while | 14:35 |
| seb128 | they flood my stdout | 14:35 |
| larsu | also, warnings usually warn about something that might be a problem :) | 14:35 |
| seb128 | right | 14:35 |
| seb128 | larsu, so I'm not able to reproduce with GTK 3.10 either, which is good | 14:36 |
| seb128 | Laney, not sure I found your translations more intuitive :p | 14:44 |
| Laney | seb128: I didn't know how to do the scaling without it | 15:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm trying to understand what you are doing/learning the canvas rotations and scaling stuff :p | 15:00 |
| Laney | you don't have to invert the y coordinate now! | 15:00 |
| sil2100 | kenvandine: could you sponsor a package for meee? | 15:03 |
| sil2100 | :) | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | sil2100, sure | 15:04 |
| sil2100 | kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/zmqpp/ubuntu <- there's a new version here (new ubuntu one) | 15:05 |
| sil2100 | kenvandine: would be cool if you could take a look and sponsor if ok :) | 15:05 |
| larsu | pitti: I don't have apport installed and want to get a core dump of a program. So I set ulimit -c unlimited, right? That results in a very weird issue: the command never returns after crashing, I can't ^C it, and I can't do anything in the directory I did this in (no ls, no rm) | 15:11 |
| larsu | pitti: any idea what might be the cause of this? Kernel holding a lock? | 15:11 |
| * larsu must reboot to make this go away | 15:11 | |
| pitti | larsu: is it actually writing the file? | 15:11 |
| pitti | it might just be very big | 15:12 |
| larsu | pitti: I don't see the file after a reboot, so I guess not | 15:12 |
| larsu | when I set it to 10M I have the same problem... | 15:12 |
| larsu | argh, now did it in my home dir | 15:12 |
| larsu | and can't tab-complete anymore without the terminal locking up | 15:13 |
| pitti | $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern | 15:13 |
| pitti | larsu: ^ what does that say? | 15:13 |
| larsu | core | 15:14 |
| pitti | that sounds fine | 15:14 |
| larsu | I saw a kernel core dump when rebooting just now | 15:14 |
| pitti | larsu: I got several kernel crashes recently too | 15:15 |
| pitti | go 3.12 | 15:15 |
| larsu | sigh | 15:15 |
| pitti | larsu: did anything make it to /var/log/kern.log before you rebooted? | 15:15 |
| pitti | larsu: did you reboot with sysrq, or just powercycle? | 15:16 |
| larsu | pitti: I didn't check. Is kern.log.1 the one from the previous boot? | 15:16 |
| pitti | larsu: no, should be in kern.log; .1 is from yesterday (logrotate) | 15:16 |
| larsu | pitti: sysrq? | 15:16 |
| larsu | kern.log seems clean | 15:16 |
| pitti | larsu: Alt+SysRq (usually on PrintScreen) plus "s"ync, "u"nmount, "b"oot | 15:17 |
| pitti | the direct keyboard → kernel link if everything in userspace is FUBAR | 15:17 |
| larsu | pitti: my system was usable, I restarted normally | 15:17 |
| pitti | that'll sync() and remount everything r/o, so that your disk stays clean | 15:17 |
| pitti | larsu: ah -- then you *can* check in another terminal what happens to "core"? | 15:17 |
| pitti | larsu: I thought you said even your terminal froze | 15:18 |
| larsu | pitti: any terminal in which I try to do anything to that directory freezes | 15:18 |
| larsu | like, ls | 15:18 |
| larsu | so I can't have a look whether core gets created | 15:18 |
| pitti | ouch | 15:19 |
| larsu | ah, found the kernel's bt further up in kern.log | 15:19 |
| pitti | larsu: I'd say, high time to reboot with a live CD and run fsck | 15:19 |
| pitti | if you care about your $HOME | 15:19 |
| * larsu cares about his $HOME | 15:19 | |
| pitti | or init=/bin/bash and do it from there | 15:19 |
| pitti | (with unmounted or readonly /home) | 15:19 |
| pitti | ah, I think we even have this nice rescue mode in grub | 15:20 |
| larsu | okay thanks. I'll do that | 15:20 |
| larsu | we do? | 15:20 |
| pitti | that'll throw you into some curses dialog which has fsck, apt repair, and other goodies | 15:20 |
| larsu | ah nice | 15:21 |
| larsu | pitti: http://paste.debian.net/68870/ | 15:22 |
| larsu | gedit was the program I tried to get the core from | 15:22 |
| pitti | not that I understand much kernel stuff, but if I see BUG and ext4 in a kernel core I get the shivers.. | 15:22 |
| pitti | larsu: fsck o'clock! | 15:23 |
| kenvandine | sil2100, sponsored | 15:23 |
| sil2100 | kenvandine: thanks! | 15:23 |
| mitya57 | seb128: Do you have one of my poppler debdiffs locally? Looks like I deleted it from both my pc & LP :( | 15:30 |
| seb128 | mitya57, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/ubuntu-ubuntu.debdiff | 15:31 |
| mitya57 | seb128: merci! | 15:31 |
| seb128 | mitya57, btw I just commented back on the bug | 15:31 |
| seb128 | mitya57, de rien ;-) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | mitya57, we have the usual "need to rebuild libreoffice, and for that needs to deal with the new toolchain and the issues it creates" | 15:32 |
| seb128 | I would suggest waiting until Sweetshark is ready to upload 4.2 to trusty | 15:32 |
| seb128 | there is nothing that looks like it's important in that poppler 0.24.3 -> 0.24.4 | 15:32 |
| seb128 | tsdgeos, not nice of you of changing sonames in a stable update :-( | 15:33 |
| mitya57 | seb128: I'm fine with doing it later, but I'll upload updated diffs anyway | 15:33 |
| tsdgeos | seb128: you know | 15:33 |
| tsdgeos | when i write an email warning about it | 15:33 |
| tsdgeos | i don't expect people to be surprised about it | 15:33 |
| seb128 | tsdgeos, the issue is not being surprised, it's being able to roll out the update | 15:33 |
| tsdgeos | well, i prefer the arch users getting the bugfix tha noone getting the bugfix | 15:34 |
| tsdgeos | which is what would happen, no? | 15:34 |
| seb128 | right | 15:34 |
| larsu | pitti: thanks for your help. fsck says everything's alright | 15:34 |
| seb128 | except that now we get none of the other fixes either | 15:34 |
| seb128 | or we need to revert that api change | 15:35 |
| tsdgeos | i'm sorry, it's how we manage the project | 15:36 |
| tsdgeos | we can argue again about it | 15:36 |
| tsdgeos | but it is how it is | 15:36 |
| seb128 | right, it's just an unfortunate situation | 15:37 |
| seb128 | the Ubuntu archive rules mean that to be able to roll out that update with the new soname we need to rebuild everything with the new version, which includes libreoffice | 15:37 |
| seb128 | which is not an easy thing to rebuild | 15:37 |
| seb128 | oh well | 15:37 |
| seb128 | no point arguing about it, we can delay until the day we are ready to rebuild the rdepends in trusty | 15:38 |
| pitti | larsu: does that dir with the core file work again? | 15:39 |
| larsu | pitti: yes, but the core file it not in it... | 15:40 |
| pitti | larsu: right, it already crashed in open(), not surprising | 15:41 |
| * larsu nods | 15:42 | |
| larsu | if only this crash also happened in gdb, then I wouldn't have to deal with this problem :) | 15:42 |
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| larsu | I blame seb128! | 15:42 |
| pitti | err, it doesn't happen in gdb? strange | 15:42 |
| pitti | larsu: apport doesn't catch it either? (i. e. with a core pipe) | 15:43 |
| larsu | pitti: "start: unknown job: apport" | 15:47 |
| larsu | 'apport' is installed | 15:47 |
| pitti | larsu: you have /etc/init/apport.conf ? | 15:47 |
| larsu | yes | 15:48 |
| pitti | larsu: your system sucks! | 15:48 |
| larsu | haha | 15:48 |
| * larsu hides | 15:48 | |
| pitti | larsu: err, apport wouldn't catch it if this is some binary from your $HOME (but that's not related to upstart being AWOL, of course) | 15:48 |
| pitti | larsu: oh wait, did you sudo it? | 15:49 |
| larsu | pitti: no, do I need to? | 15:49 |
| larsu | ah, I do | 15:49 |
| pitti | yes | 15:49 |
| larsu | "Job is already running" | 15:49 |
| seb128 | larsu, copy over the /usr/bin gedit | 15:50 |
| larsu | do I need to set core_pattern manually? | 15:50 |
| larsu | seb128: this is the gedit from my system | 15:50 |
| seb128 | oh | 15:50 |
| pitti | larsu: what I said, apport ignores stuff from your $HOME, as these aren't packaged | 15:50 |
| seb128 | larsu, what do you have in /var/log/apport.log? | 15:50 |
| pitti | larsu: ok, then apport ought to catch it; check /var/log/apport.log ? | 15:50 |
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| larsu | pitti: no. core_pattern is set to core... do I need to change that to |apport manually? | 15:51 |
| larsu | seb128: nothing | 15:51 |
| pitti | larsu: "sudo stop apport; sudo start apport" should do that | 15:51 |
| pitti | $ cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern | 15:51 |
| pitti | |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c | 15:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw, https://errors.ubuntu.com/problem/00594d5c83cc8b30ba8dc5fcea3ae1a37392fb19 you are not alone hitting that one | 15:53 |
| seb128 | it's ranked 3rd on the daily trusty report | 15:54 |
| pitti | oh, good | 15:54 |
| pitti | seb128: sorry, didn't manage to report it yet (still have it open) | 15:54 |
| seb128 | pitti, no worry | 15:54 |
| pitti | how would I get from my https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/53d057e6-5b3f-11e3-91f0-2c768aafd08c to the error page? | 15:55 |
| pitti | I mean /problem/ | 15:55 |
| seb128 | you can't afaik :/ | 15:55 |
| larsu | pitti: thanks. Piping to apport works indeed | 15:55 |
| seb128 | desrt, I read the #gtk+ backlog, seems like that's going to be resolved this week, good ;-) | 16:00 |
| larsu | meh, this stacktrace doesn't help nme at all. Everything is ?? | 16:01 |
| seb128 | larsu, install dbg packages | 16:01 |
| desrt | seb128: ya... looks like we will semi-revert the change | 16:01 |
| larsu | seb128: I have them installed | 16:01 |
| seb128 | larsu, what segfault are you getting? | 16:01 |
| larsu | seb128: the warning we were talking about earlier (I have fatal-warnings) | 16:01 |
| larsu | I guess today is just one of those days :( | 16:02 |
| seb128 | larsu, you can just "b gtkwidget.c:9488" in gdb (being in the gtk+ source, gtk/) and "r gtkwidget.c") | 16:13 |
| seb128 | larsu, that seems to do the trick here | 16:13 |
| larsu | seb128: thanks! I just did something similar and have a usable backtrace now. The problem is that o-s calls unrealize() on all scrollbars whenever com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode is changed | 16:14 |
| larsu | and calling unrealize() on a visible widget is not the smartest thing to do... | 16:15 |
| larsu | is anybody even using that key? | 16:15 |
| seb128 | yes | 16:15 |
| seb128 | that's the recommended way to turn off o-s by user | 16:15 |
| seb128 | we also change it from g-c-c when you select an a11y theme | 16:16 |
| larsu | ah got it | 16:16 |
| larsu | seb128: hiding the scrollars before unmapping them fixes the warning. I hope it also fixes you crash! https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/overlay-scrollbar/hide-scrollbars-before-unmapping/+merge/197415 | 16:32 |
| Laney | oho, found the bad evolution commit | 16:36 |
| Laney | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699576 | 16:37 |
| ubot2 | Gnome bug 699576 in general "Mail reader frame is black (in the mail view)" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 16:37 |
| Laney | anyone on shell here? darkxst? | 16:37 |
| Laney | nm, I'll just test it myself | 16:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, just got your gabble issue, it happens when you turn off wifi (did that by error while playing with settings) | 16:41 |
| seb128 | Laney, I did some extra minor nitpick on your axis work, sorry about that :p | 16:43 |
| Laney | hrhr | 16:43 |
| seb128 | Laney, also that seems a lot of efforts for a graph (well, adding the legend, if we start considering the labels/shifting of ticks), not sure if we should delay that | 16:44 |
| Laney | gosh I can't see that one pixel | 16:44 |
| Laney | did you zoom a screenshot? | 16:44 |
| seb128 | no, but I can if you want | 16:44 |
| Laney | yeah the api makes working on it quite difficult | 16:44 |
| Laney | no it's ok | 16:44 |
| Laney | just wondering how you saw it :P | 16:44 |
| seb128 | well, they look off on my external monitor | 16:45 |
| pitti | seb128: it happens every time I try to go online with empathy (i. e. when jabber wants to start); but I guess there are different conditions when it can happen | 16:45 |
| seb128 | pitti, I guess so | 16:45 |
| Laney | btw I was thinking you'd only do 15 minute increments | 16:45 |
| Laney | err, 10 minute | 16:45 |
| Laney | so 9:03 would show the 9:10 tick and there would be a 7 minute gap | 16:46 |
| Laney | maybe that would look weird | 16:46 |
| seb128 | that would yes | 16:46 |
| seb128 | I would prefer cut 3 minutes then | 16:46 |
| seb128 | and show 9 | 16:46 |
| Laney | mmm | 16:46 |
| seb128 | or I would prefer just keep what you did | 16:46 |
| seb128 | have the 6 hours markers | 16:46 |
| seb128 | and put no text | 16:47 |
| seb128 | and not have to deal with those details :p | 16:47 |
| Laney | I guess so | 16:47 |
| Laney | now they mean "now", "1 hour ago", etc | 16:47 |
| Laney | which is probably ok for now | 16:47 |
| seb128 | right | 16:47 |
| Laney | ok /me takes a screenshot to zoom in | 16:47 |
| seb128 | we need more design input on the behaviour if we add the labels | 16:48 |
| Laney | miss that compiz feature | 16:48 |
| seb128 | lol | 16:48 |
| seb128 | it's still there | 16:48 |
| * Laney draws some fire on the screen | 16:48 | |
| seb128 | you need to enable it in ccsm | 16:48 |
| Laney | that program scares me | 16:48 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 16:48 |
| Laney | YOU LIE! | 16:49 |
| seb128 | ? | 16:49 |
| Laney | http://ubuntuone.com/28TITpVmhSchI01kvxnMXs | 16:50 |
| seb128 | are you calling me a liar? | 16:50 |
| seb128 | right, that screenshot confirms what I was saying :p | 16:50 |
| seb128 | maybe we are speaking about different thing | 16:50 |
| Laney | yeah | 16:50 |
| seb128 | I should perhaps say (0,0) should be painted | 16:51 |
| Laney | you want that one pixel filled in? | 16:51 |
| seb128 | yes | 16:51 |
| Laney | I see | 16:51 |
| seb128 | it looks weird like that | 16:51 |
| seb128 | at least to me | 16:51 |
| seb128 | if you disagree, we might want to ask a designer what they think, or do a pool there | 16:51 |
| seb128 | I've no taste for pixel precision stuff, so maybe I'm just the one being weird there ;-) | 16:51 |
| * Laney wonders how you do that | 16:52 | |
| seb128 | paint a point? | 16:52 |
| Laney | yeah | 16:53 |
| Laney | I only know how to do lines :( | 16:53 |
| seb128 | ctx.fillRect(x,x,y,y) | 16:53 |
| seb128 | sorry | 16:53 |
| Laney | ah | 16:53 |
| seb128 | (x,y,1,1) | 16:53 |
| Laney | I got it | 16:53 |
| Laney | wtf | 16:56 |
| Laney | now it randomly draws two sets of axes | 16:56 |
| Laney | ok there | 17:01 |
| seb128 | Laney, you didn't like the fillRect suggestion? (I don't care much, it's just what internet results suggested doing) | 17:02 |
| Laney | it uses a different style | 17:03 |
| Laney | so I just used the one we already had | 17:03 |
| seb128 | oh, right, makes sense | 17:03 |
| Laney | this api seems really buggy on nouveau | 17:04 |
| Laney | keep getting glitches | 17:04 |
| seb128 | thanks for the fix, that looks good (though I'm unsure if the lines are not a bit long, the 0,0 look a bit "strong", I'm not going to nitpick on that one anymore though ;-) | 17:04 |
| Laney | like how it breaks if you rotate on the device | 17:04 |
| Laney | that doesn't even get fixed if you force a repaint | 17:04 |
| Laney | length> should be easy to tweak | 17:05 |
| seb128 | :-( | 17:05 |
| seb128 | speaking of refresh, at some point I want to make the graph dynamic | 17:05 |
| seb128 | like refresh/translate if you keep the panel open | 17:05 |
| seb128 | it doesn't do that atm | 17:05 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:05 |
| Laney | that would be good | 17:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, do you want to tweak the length or just get that in? | 17:05 |
| Laney | you try some different values and see what you like :P | 17:06 |
| Laney | or follow up with it later | 17:06 |
| seb128 | Laney, well, I tested on my desktop, you tested on the device, let's optimize for the device ;-) | 17:06 |
| sil2100 | seb128: hello! Did you have a moment to re-review the unity-voice after our fixes? Since we might have missed the notice | 17:16 |
| seb128 | sil2100, hey, sure | 17:16 |
| ogra_ | seb128, Laney, any idea why locale disagrees about the locale setting on my phone ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6510308/ | 17:29 |
| Laney | hmm, not having much fun trying to use user switching | 17:29 |
| seb128 | Laney, getting blank screen, xorg sigabrt, etc? | 17:30 |
| Laney | just blank | 17:30 |
| ali1234 | Laney: bug 1256150 | 17:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1256150 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Xorg guest session fails to start if the user has logged out and logged in again" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256150 | 17:30 |
| seb128 | Laney, likely fixed by https://code.launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/lightdm/vt-double-unref-fix/+merge/197247 | 17:30 |
| Laney | seems to have lost my main session | 17:30 |
| seb128 | if you want to try it | 17:30 |
| seb128 | right | 17:30 |
| seb128 | you got a vt on top of it | 17:30 |
| seb128 | that's this bug | 17:30 |
| Laney | could be | 17:30 |
| Laney | ta | 17:30 |
| seb128 | thanks ali1234 for tracking it and fixing it | 17:30 |
| seb128 | we just need to nag robert_ancell to get the fix merged/uploaded | 17:31 |
| Laney | ogra_: interesting | 17:31 |
| seb128 | ogra_, is logging done through pam? | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | logging ? | 17:32 |
| seb128 | maybe you have a .profile or something that overwrite those? | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | you mean login ? | 17:32 |
| seb128 | login | 17:32 |
| seb128 | sorry | 17:32 |
| seb128 | yeah :p | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | it is done by lightdm in an autologin setup | 17:32 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:32 |
| seb128 | weird | 17:32 |
| ogra_ | i have the default .profile file in the phablet homedir | 17:33 |
| seb128 | is the issue new? | 17:33 |
| Laney | for me adb shell locale shows that but locale from the terminal is right | 17:33 |
| ogra_ | seb128, no idea i just tried running locale for the first time ever on a phone i thinnk | 17:33 |
| seb128 | is adb shell going through our stack/pam for auth? | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | seb128, sudo is | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | root@ubuntu-phablet:/# sudo -u phablet -i locale | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | LANG= | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | LANGUAGE= | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | LC_CTYPE="POSIX" | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | ... | 17:34 |
| ogra_ | and sudo -u phablet -i is what all our tools use when they run any cmdline commands via adb | 17:35 |
| * ogra_ would try the terminal app, but bug 1255999 doesnt allow me to | 17:35 | |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1255999 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "[regression] if switched to non english local, the keyboard does not come up when an input field is focused" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1255999 | 17:35 |
| seb128 | ogra_, can you strings /proc/`pidof unity8`/environ to see if that happens for the system jobs | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | will check ... | 17:41 |
| seb128 | ok, I need to go | 17:42 |
| seb128 | bbl | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6510375/ | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | ah, he is gone | 17:45 |
| * ogra_ hugs Laney for fixing his mail | 18:15 | |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: ping | 21:19 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, hello | 21:19 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: we talked about an issue with the guest session in ubuntu and it also affected xubuntu with light-locker obviously | 21:20 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: we reported a bug as you suggested, and ali1234 was even able to track down the issue and write a patch for it, but then it was marked "invalid" today without explanation: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1256150 | 21:20 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1256150 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Xorg guest session fails to start if the user has logged out and logged in again" [High,Confirmed] | 21:20 |
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| ochosi | any clue what that is about? | 21:20 |
| robert_ancell | the xorg component was marked invalid, as it's a bug in lightdm | 21:21 |
| ochosi | oh right, i didn't look closely enough... sry :/ | 21:21 |
| ochosi | well anyway, the other thing was i wanted to make you aware of it, so one fail, one win | 21:21 |
| robert_ancell | np | 21:21 |
| robert_ancell | yeah, will try and get that fix out today | 21:22 |
| ochosi | it has been tested also (as the comment suggests) | 21:22 |
| ochosi | nice | 21:22 |
| ochosi | thanks a lot! | 21:22 |
| ochosi | will you backport it for saucy too? | 21:22 |
| ochosi | robert_ancell: ^ | 21:25 |
| robert_ancell | ochosi, yes | 21:32 |
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