[08:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:11] <geser> good morning
[16:18] <hakermania>  If I have uploaded an earlier version of my application and thus I had a sponsor for it, should I contact him for a new version of the app and a new library not in the repos which is a dependency of this new version of the application?
[16:33] <Laney> hakermania: I don't think so, use the sponsor queue as normal (for new packages I advise you use Debian, again as normal)
[16:35] <hakermania> Laney, yes, I've already sent the library to Debian, and I want to start programming the application to use the library, but as I intend the application to be in 14.04 I want a sure way to have the library quickly reviewed and pushed into the repos.
[16:36] <hakermania> "sent the library to Debian" = for review. It isn't in the repos yet.
[16:36] <Laney> ok, well if you need to then use the normal process
[16:36] <Laney> it's fine to point your old sponsor to it, but they may not have time to look for you
[16:37] <hakermania> Laney, when a package is accepted in Debian how long does it take to show up in ubuntu repos (or is it immediately on "apt-get update" ?)
[16:38] <Laney> hakermania: a few days for new sources usually (up to debian import freeze)
[17:14] <hakermania> Laney, is there a way to find out who my previous sponsor was :P I've completely forgotten.
[17:14] <hakermania> I think it was ScottK but I'm not sure at all.
[17:15] <Adri2000> hakermania: gpg --verify on the .dsc will tell you who signed the source package
[17:15] <Laney> go to http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<package>/+changelog and click on the version you want and then look for the "Sponsored by" field
[17:15] <Laney> or find it on <release>-changes and look for Signed-by
[17:16] <Adri2000> or that :)
[17:17] <Laney> If you can get the dsc you can probably see it via one of those other two methods
[17:18] <Laney> but that also works :P
[17:21] <mitya57> Or look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/RELEASE/+source/PACKAGE/VERSION
[17:21] <hakermania> Yep, the gpg matches ScottK's
[17:22] <Laney> I usually can't remember the exact version
[17:23] <hakermania> Thanks guys
[19:52] <aeoril> I am here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/getting-set-up.html  but when I read about using the development version of Ubuntu to develop with, it gets confusing - should I be using testdrive?
[19:56] <Noskcaj> aeoril, testdrive is for running the developement version in a VM. If you have the devel version as your OS or a schoot (pbuilder) of the devel version, you don't need it
[19:59] <aeoril> I have read the topic here and am now redirecting my web research to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing - it is quite different.  Is the MOTU team still the best way to get involved in contributing to Ubuntu as a developer (not apps, but Ubuntu itself)?
[20:02] <Noskcaj> aeoril, If you are interesting in packaging, yes. There is also a number of ubuntu specific apps, testing tools (testdrive and automated tests), and bug fixing
[20:07] <aeoril> nosk
[20:09] <aeoril> Noskcajk I had been told previously MOTU was a good place to start because most if not all development requires packaging, so it is a good place to start (MOTU) as launch point for most development related work
[20:09] <Noskcaj> aeoril, yep
[20:09] <Noskcaj> tip: You can autocomplete a name in irc by pressing TAB
[20:10] <aeoril> Noskcaj yes, I know - that was a finger gone haywire :)
[20:10] <Noskcaj> ok
[20:11] <aeoril> A while ago I was active on Ubuntu - but it has been some years, and I did not do much - https://launchpad.net/~sanbar
[20:12] <aeoril> I am pondering what to do with my free time and am thinking about re-engaging with Ubuntu
[20:15] <Noskcaj> awesome. A good place to start is http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/ , which has a number of pages for things you can do for the motu team
[20:17] <aeoril> Noskcaj ok, cool - thanks!
[20:52] <Noskcaj> xnox, Mind if i merge handbrake?
[20:53] <Noskcaj> I've run out of merges i can do that i have been allowed to
[20:56] <Noskcaj> And lives is probably syncable
[21:00] <xnox> Noskcaj: go ahead.
[23:21] <Noskcaj> Anyone have merges i can take? (All the current "please take"s need programming languages i don't know)
[23:25] <jtaylor> Noskcaj: if you are really bored you can have a look why skimage autopkgtests fail
[23:25] <jtaylor> I can't reproduce the issue locally
[23:29] <Noskcaj> jtaylor, I'll have a look, but autopkgtest isn't something i'm remotely good at
[23:32] <Noskcaj> how do i see the failure?
[23:42] <jtaylor> Noskcaj: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Trusty/view/AutoPkgTest/job/trusty-adt-skimage/