[00:36] mhall119: hey, the Layouts API docs seem to be missing a lot of images (http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/UbuntuUserInterfaceToolkit.ubuntu-layouts5/) [00:39] hey, there's a vmware to test ubuntu-touch? === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === jalcine- is now known as jalcine [01:03] cwayne: any qdocs that linked to local images aren't working, I have a work item for it, but need to figure out how do make it work across multiple app instances without worrying about getting them out of sync [01:04] pr0teus: there's an emulator, but it's not vmware [01:04] mhall119: ah, makes sense [01:04] pr0teus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator [01:06] cwayne: our internal cloud has a file storage option (Ceph I think) that will likely be used for both imported and community uploaded images === shengyao_afk is now known as shengyao [01:11] that sounds reasonable :) [01:11] pl [01:12] oops, wrong window [01:16] mhall119: coldnt find "apt-get install android-emulator" installing android-tools-* [01:28] pr0teus: are you running Ubuntu trusty like the page says? [01:28] pr0teus: if you're not on Trust, you can download the .deb from Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/android-emulator_20131128-0457-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [01:28] I did that to install it on Saucy [01:29] rsalveti: ^^ any change we can get the android-emulator for Saucy in the SDK PPA? [01:32] s/change/chance/ === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [01:44] nhaines: no i'm running 13.04 [01:44] mhall119: thanks [01:45] but i'll test 14.04 in vmwware now also =) lets check the changes [01:46] pr0teus: remember, an emulator in an emulator is infuriating. :) Also, once you get it set up, let it run for a while. Might take up to 5 minutes for the graphical interface to pop up. That's normal. [01:47] nhaines: ok =) i'm excited to test, thinking that ubuntu will converge to one user experience in all devices... [01:48] It's an exciting future, isn't it? :) [01:50] nhaines: yup =) but i fear we will be locked to brands =/ [01:50] nhaines: right now if you have an ipad and a mac, you should buy an iphone, because they interact awesome [01:50] so in the close future we will be choosing samsung x microsoft x apple [01:51] for our whole environment [01:51] Thanks to the need for good MTP support for Ubuntu on phones, Ubuntu 13.10 got actual working MTP support, which means now Android phones work great with it. [01:52] As long as Ubuntu and Android stick with standards, it's good for everyone. [01:52] right out of the box too! [01:53] nhaines: yep [01:53] nhaines: but i don't see how there brands will interoperate, and that is bad... [01:53] The brands are meaningless. It's the softare on top that matters. [01:54] So you pick the mobile operating system you like best, and that's taht. [01:54] i have an ipad, and i'm using 50% of it because the usability with my nix environment isnt that good(no itunes for example) [01:54] brands = OS [01:55] Well, if you buy hardware from a company who doesn't wish to interoperate, it's probably not going to interoperate well. [01:56] true, i just dont want to be locked to a single OS [01:56] Luckily, iOS works well standalone and is pretty high quality. So you should get a lot of use out of your iPad still. [01:56] i want to use my ipad in the same way i should use it in MacOs [01:57] Well, Apple actively works against that. [01:57] nhaines: thats what i fear in the future =/ [01:57] pr0teus: then enjoy your current hardware but don't purchase those products in the future. :) [01:58] By buying Android or Ubuntu products, you support technology that likes working with everything. [01:58] nhaines: yep, but what i should purchage... ? only linux like? or windows like? [01:59] Desktop = Windows and Linux, but for mobile i like android and iphone as well, tablet i just liked iOS (perhaps ubuntu) [01:59] so i should choose one OS for 3 devices.. (perhaps 4 if SmartTV included) [01:59] If you want products that work with any desktop OS, you'd better stick with Android or Ubuntu. [02:00] nhaines: now android or ubuntu seems the best interoperable OS, and hope that canonical will keep it in that way [02:00] but, who knows [02:01] If Ubuntu or Canonical doesn't keep it that way, the community can. === ^_\\\ is now known as LockeAnarchist === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:38] hi [02:39] i have a nexus 5, i know it's not supported yet, but it will be [02:39] i wanted to dual boot and i was wondering about the feature that allows you to connect the phone to a docking station [02:40] what sort of docking station is recommended to utilize this feature? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [03:27] BillyZane: there is no feature that allows you to connect the phone to a docking station. So there is no docking station recommended to utilize that feature. [03:28] true [03:28] i think i read online something like... [03:28] BillyZane: There's also no way to know what the hardware requirements will be until the feature is designed. But nothing demoed so far supports docking stations. [03:30] yeah i read something like you have to use a microUSB to HDMI adaptor [03:30] and then you can use a bluetooth keyboard/mouse or possibly usb on the go [03:31] No, you have to use an MHL HDMI adapter, on Android hardware that supports MHL. [03:31] ohh [03:31] I'm not sure a docking station like that exists. [03:32] this is the one that seems to be recommended [03:32] http://www.amazon.com/SlimPort%C2%AE-SP1002-Connect-connector-Supports/dp/B009UZBLSG [03:32] They're all the same. === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === anders3408 is now known as anders3408|away === vying is now known as Guest76778 === iahmad is now known as iahmad|afk === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:00] hi [08:01] is anyone there [08:01] i was wondering how ubuntu deals with the 2gb ram limit on nexus phones, does it utilize a swap partition? [08:05] good morning [08:06] dholbach: good morning! :) [08:06] hi nhaines [08:07] dholbach: Heute Nacht habe ich einen Buch "Lesebuch für Anfänger" gelesen. Es würde im 1930 herausgegeben. [08:08] The entire German text is in Fraktur. Fun, but slightly challenging. :) [08:09] nhaines, German on its own is challenging already :) === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [08:09] Indeed! I figure if I can manage that, eventually Javascript should be simple. ;) [08:13] haha :) [08:13] dholbach: a friend accuses me of using obsolute German. My pet name for her 7yo son is "Knabe", and I once asked him, "Bist du munter?" [08:14] I had the chance to pick up a huge German-English dictionary at a library for $2. I thought maybe I'd check the entry for "computer", to see if it was "der Rechner" or "der Computer" and see if maybe it was too dated to help plead my case for dated speech. [08:15] There was no entery for "computer". Or Rechner. I checked the copyright page, and it was published in 1956. I decided to leave it on the shelf. ;) [08:15] haha, that makes sense - most people nowadays would say "Computer" [08:15] it's ironic that the computer is what makes the dictionary obsolete. i guess the dictionary didn't see that one coming [08:16] BillyZane: I highly suspect that computer:computer::reckon::Rechner, but have been too lazy to research that yet. :) [08:18] dholbach: my friend's son is bilingual and I'm helping him learn to read; I can read in both English and German. But it's really funny when I write a sentence. Last was "Der Knabe isst die Cookies", and he has the funniest reactions to the word Knabe. He thinks it's not a real word. :) [08:18] what you said made me think about how paper has reigned for thousands of years [08:18] and it's starting to become obsolete in many ways [08:18] nhaines, most people nowadays would say "der Junge" instead of "der Knabe", but it would still be understood [08:19] some day, we might even be able to replace paper with something that looks and feels just like it, but is digital [08:19] dholbach: yes, I only use Knabe as a Kosename for him. In English I tend to say "kiddo" or "buddy" or such. :) [08:20] it's the texture that makes paper great. pencil and ink. and it gets me thinking, is that texture really the best, or are we just really use to it [08:21] BillyZane: I have a fountain pen I picked up in Germany, just something a high schooler would get for graduation. I type 105wpm, but sometimes when I'm writing a speech, article, or story, I just take a notepad and use the fountain pen. It uses a cartridge although I have an awesome little inkwell, too. [08:21] Luckily, the first-class technology in Ubuntu is so efficient that I can sometimes indulge in a little old-fashioned technology as well. [08:22] i was intrigued with fountain pens as well when i was younger. i had a couple of them, they had cartridges as well [08:22] nhaines, ah ok :) [08:23] dholbach: but since he's just starting to get good at reading, it's fun to occasionally substitue "Knabe" for "Junge" and see his reaction, hehe. [08:23] :) [08:24] Funnily enough, once he used my laptop and I said, "Okay, start the web browser", and he said "I don't know how," and I just said, "Push past the left side of the screen with the mouse", and he's been able to use Ubuntu intuitively ever since. [08:25] I've read to him a lot of Asterix and Smurf comic books. I often don't know what I'm reading, but I do voices and so forth. [08:26] Once, he wanted to play videogames, and I told him only if he did something or other first. And I started, "Wenn du das tust wollen, zuerst mußt du..." (if you want to do that, first you must...) and then realized I didn't know the German word for what he must do. === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:26] So then I just tried to stall. It was a race to see if I could remember the verb before I could finish the sentence. [08:27] So I added as many conditions as I could think of. "tonight, before you start, after you eat..." finally I got to the end of the sentence and just said "schlümpfen". [08:28] He thought this was *really* funny. I was quite proud of myself. (Any English speaker, if they remember that the Smurfs use the word "smurf" to substitute for everything.) :) [08:29] nhaines, haha, that's great [08:30] dholbach: his mother is an interpreter, so she usually corrects me, but occasionally finds that funny. :) [08:31] Not so funny when I mix up mir or mich, and she corrects me, and I say, "oh, das ist Dialekt." === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:39] nhaines, yeah, that's not quite easy to learn [08:42] dholbach: I actually have the hang of it, mostly.... just some prepositions confound me. I do like to repeat his errors, though, which his mom really dislikes... but he should learn sooner than later than he shouldn't learn that from me. ;) On the other hand, I never use "whom" incorrectly anymore. [08:45] :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [08:47] Sometimes English speakers ask me if I'm teaching him German, and I always say, "No, he's bilingual and he's helping me practice my German." And then sometimes we find German speakers and he says, "Er kann auch Deutsch sprechen," and I tell them "Ich tue nur so." === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:00] nhaines, sehr gut :) [09:04] dholbach: it's fun to say. :) === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:57] do we have qt 5.2 packages somewhere? [10:00] Laney, Mirv has a ppa for those I think [10:00] Laney, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-qt5-edgers/+archive/qt5-beta2 [10:00] Laney: the usable one is ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta2 - as of this morning the core modules are near RC1 and Unity8 starts on device with that PPA again [10:01] just want to test a bug is fixed, nothing major [10:01] thanks === iahmad|afk is now known as iahmad [10:06] Mirv: do you have a tag for 'fixed in 5.2' or something? [10:07] Laney: no such tag, but the changelogs should mention any LP bugs closed [10:07] yes, just want to make sure it does get closed [10:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/+bug/1256341 [10:08] Ubuntu bug 1256341 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Incorrect timezone displayed in System Settings" [Medium,Triaged] [10:18] mandel: Heya [10:18] lool, hello! [10:18] mandel: I see ubuntu-download-manager wasn't updated in trusty since the release [10:18] mandel: so I guess it still misses the logging changes you had done in trunk [10:19] mandel: did you or someone else working on it request a landing slot for it? [10:19] lool, indeed, but I was planning to solve that with didrocks [10:19] mandel: would be good to get an update ASAP, there seem to be many many changes in trunk that will now have to land at once [10:19] lool, correct, there are code cleanups that have landed, are we having daily releases for trusty? [10:20] lool, or do I have to fill the spreadsheet etc.. to get it landed? [10:20] mandel: we're still using the spreadsheet while we develop a replacement [10:20] lool, ok, then trust me I'll make sure we have a new version ASAP [10:20] lool, specially because I have reduce the mem footprint of the downloaded and I want that to be in the phone [10:21] mandel: #ubuntu-ci-eng is where you'd check with the landing team how to get it in [10:21] mandel: Yeah that sounds good [10:21] mandel: thanks for following up with them then :-) [10:21] lool, sure, not problem, I'll try to make their life as easy as possible [10:21] lool, any person in particular I can ping? [10:27] mandel: usually each team's techlead has write access to the spreadsheet; in your case that might be ralsina though [10:27] mandel: ralsina certainly used to file landing requests in the past [10:41] lool, ok, then ralsina it is [10:41] lool, although the entire team is in an sprint but me, so it will be hard to get his time, nevertheless I'll try [10:45] kalikiana: ping [11:08] mandel, are you still thinking of adding U1 photos support to gallery-app? [11:09] oh that would be so awesome ! [11:09] JamesTait, yes, I am [11:10] JamesTait, I need time though ;) [11:10] JamesTait, is probably an xmas project [11:10] mandel, no rush - just wanted to let you know that the API got promoted to v1 now. ;) [11:11] JamesTait, sweet, I will probaby need to get a cpp lib that those the required operations and then will look at the gallery app [11:11] :) [11:11] JamesTait, in the mean time I have done something simpler, added support for eyrie and u1db (http://blog.mikeasoft.com/2013/11/07/eyrie-for-ubuntu-touch/) [11:12] JamesTait, so that if you tag songs with you ubuntu phone they are stored to later get them in a 'legal way' [11:12] mandel, at some point, when I've got a spare couple of hours, probably one Friday afternoon, I'll be adding the API docs to one.ubuntu.com/developer as well. [11:13] JamesTait, superb, I would not mind doing a qml plugin for that api [11:13] mandel, that sounds cool. :) [11:13] JamesTait, and that way people can simply use it [11:14] +1 [11:15] I really must get to grips with this new-fangles QML thing. ;) [11:17] JamesTait, well, I write mostly cpp and then allow people to use it from qml ;) [11:17] JamesTait, kinda fun :) [11:18] I do occasionally have cause to play around a bit with Vala. [11:20] JamesTait, the idea is to provide as much funtionality as possible to the QML world.. so right now I'm working on getting an API for the download manager, later upload manager (that is work realted) then the photos api [11:21] * JamesTait nods === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo [12:02] Morning all [12:02] ogra_: with the image update, when you have it set to auto download on wifi it shouldn't do that on 3g right? [12:02] yeah [12:04] ogra_: that'll be a bit broken then [12:04] yup, there is system-image 2.0 sitting in -proposed though [12:06] ogra_: and does that have a fix for this? [12:06] it has a ton of fixes for several things ... i could imagine it does [12:06] ask barry once he is around [12:12] ogra_: nice will do thanks [12:38] mhall119: we'll be renaming the emulator package and changing the download-image script this week to grab images from system-image [12:39] mhall119: we could integrate it currently at the ppa already, but I'd wait until we land these changes [12:39] which should happen today/tomorrow hopefully [12:40] we shouldkonw in 1h of the image builds work [12:40] :-) [12:40] rsalveti: If you change the name to "Ni" we get shrubberies [12:40] hahaha [12:40] rsalveti, i'm not sure, might be that system-image also needs the new arch added [12:40] that would be nice indeed [12:40] ogra_: right, but stgraber said that adding it there is easy once we have everything available via cdimage [12:41] yeah, i wouldnt expect more than changing a config file [12:42] hey oSoMoN, do you have more info on bug #1255999 than Friday? [12:42] bug 1255999 in ubuntu-keyboard (Ubuntu) "[regression] if switched to non english local, the keyboard does not come up when an input field is focused" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1255999 [12:43] didrocks, I don’t [12:43] didrocks, but tmoenicke was looking at it [12:43] tmoenicke: can you enlighten us? ^ ;) [12:44] yep [12:48] * didrocks listens to tmoenicke :) [13:00] hey guys, I just hit bug 1247401, anything I can do to extract useful info? [13:00] bug 1247401 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Date/Time missing from indicators and welcome screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1247401 [13:03] Ursinha, check is the service is running and maybe the corresponding upstart log [13:05] hi [13:05] seb128, indicator-datetime-service isn't running [13:06] hi [13:06] Ursinha, is there anything useful in the upstart log? [13:07] would somebody say me if i would installl ubuntu for phone on a device which was'nt nexus? Sorry for my bad english [13:07] i wish install ubuntu for phone on a galaxy R, is it possible? [13:07] seb128, the only mention I could find in upstart logs is in dbus.log, the last message says: Failed to activate service 'com.canonical.indicator.datetime': timed out [13:08] Ursinha, is that current trusty? the indicators should be managed by upstart with the changes ted did [13:08] e.g they should have their own log [13:08] seb128, is that already true for all of them ? [13:08] seb128, yes, trusty, r34 [13:08] ogra_, yes [13:08] k [13:09] Roger112112: there is a list of supported devices on the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices other wise you would need to port it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting [13:10] Ursinha, well, in any case it seems like the service had an issue and timeouted, not a lot you can get now, if it happens again it would be useful to get a gdb stacktrace before the timeout [13:10] seb128, it's the first time it happens to me, popey reported the bug a week ago (it seems) [13:11] rather a month ago, and that issue was fixed since [13:11] no, actually a month ago [13:11] whoa [13:11] and he reported it with a lot delay [13:12] we all see it randomly since saucy already [13:12] I've been good in finding regressions that were supposed to be fixed... [13:12] well, its not a regression [13:13] unless yu take the mwc congress demo image as a base for it :) [13:13] ogra_, I said based on "that issue was fixed since" [13:13] it always happened randomly for people [13:13] yeah, it's happened on and off all the time [13:13] and i am sure i have also seen it recently [13:13] so it was never fixed :) [13:13] i saw it over the weekend [13:13] sometihgn was fixed [13:13] probably just not enough though :) [13:13] well the bug doesn't suggest it was fixed [13:15] popey, what bug? yours? [13:15] popey, you just filed a duplicate and the action happened to the "real" report... [13:15] seb128, that is a duplicate? why isn't that marked as such? what's the "real" report number? [13:16] Ursinha, popey, ogra_: bug #1239710 was the saucy/trusty issue that got fixed [13:16] bug 1239710 in indicator-session (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime or -session missing ~10% of the time" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1239710 [13:16] Ursinha, dunno, ask bug triagers why launchpad is not in a perfect state, I didn't know about it before you pointed out today [13:16] Ursinha, I guess the reply is "we don't keep up with reports and not all duplicates are triaged" [13:17] * popey marks as dupe then [13:17] seb128, I found it in the bugs list I created with all packages seeded in touch, actually both bugs are there (I just spotted the one you mentioned) [13:18] seb128, that was an honest question really [13:18] Ursinha, well, the honest answer is "we don't have enough triager" [13:18] seb128, well, i tried to address that with my recent mail discussion :) [13:19] maybe there's something we could do (avengers people and us) to look for bugs before filing new ones, I'm asking to improve things... [13:19] seems we all do :) [13:19] Saviq, here's the branch making trouble on jenkins... lp:~macslow/unity8/notification-fullscreen-support [13:20] thanks davmor 2! [13:20] Ursinha: we frequently discuss bugs in here before filing [13:21] it seems that one slipped, but okay, if that's enough for you who am I to disagree [13:21] popey, well, it would be useful to check the open bugs as well before filling [13:21] seb128, I'll make a comment in the "real" bug that it still happens in trusty (I assume that's actually Fix Released, and not Fix Committed as the status says?) [13:21] we do that too. clearly I missed it on that one. [13:22] Cimi, https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/ubuntu-system-settings/welcome-wizard/+merge/186862 [13:22] Ursinha, if you read that, there is already a such comment at the bottom of the bug [13:22] Ursinha, the issue described there is fixed, there is maybe a second problem leading to the same result [13:22] Ursinha, we need a new report with a backtrace of the service while it's hanging (before it timeout) [13:23] Ursinha, for you or the next one who can reproduce [13:23] seb128, can we reuse popey's bug? [13:23] i marked it dupe, feel free to modify it [13:24] Ursinha, well, the guys on the other bug already opened a new one, if you read the comment at the bottom... [13:24] use that one rather [13:24] seb128, that doesn't seem to be the same problem, he seems to have more problems and is using saucy [13:24] hence my question [13:24] :) [13:25] but okay [13:25] Ursinha, ok, well, free free to reuse popey's one [13:27] Hi, can anyone tell me if the current version of Ubuntu phone supports activesync? [13:29] nocturn, depending on the level of support of synchronizing to the right databases in syncevolution, you may be able to sync your data. see https://syncevolution.org/ [13:30] I'm not at all familiar with the specifics to tell you more though :) === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:33] thanks cyphermox === jibel_ is now known as jibel [14:05] ricmm: hey Rick, how are you? [14:06] ricmm: I'm adding a mock sensor backend to platform-api, as discussed recently with tvoss and kalikiana_; I understand the general API of libubuntu_application_api.so, but how does this provide notifications? i. e. a callback when a sensor value changes? [14:12] ricmm: oh nevermind, *_set_reading_cb() === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [14:23] ogra_, I just hit bug 1256496... anything I can do? [14:23] bug 1256496 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) ""Apply update failed: No update has been downloaded"" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256496 [14:23] ricmm: but I'm afraid I still have some architecture questions about platform-api; when would you have a couple of minutes for these? [14:23] reboot usually helps [14:24] i wonder why system-image 2.0 didnt migrate yet === barry` is now known as barry_ [14:25] aha [14:25] FTBFS [14:25] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-image/2.0.1-0ubuntu1/+build/5275242 [14:25] seems to fail a self test [14:25] barry_, any chance we can get that fixed ? === barry_ is now known as barry [14:26] (system-image 2.0 FTBFS) [14:27] ogra_: i'm sure there's a chance ;) fwiw, that test does not fail locally, only on the buildds, so yay [14:27] lovely [14:28] ogra_, man, I believe rebooting will solve the problem but that isn't the point, I was asking if there's any useful data I could collect while the bug is here :) [14:28] Ursinha, given that 2.0 is waiting alreaady i dont think so [14:28] (it is suppposed to improve that issue) [14:29] ogra_, alright :) [14:34] barry: ogra_ told me to ask you about the fact that in settings if I have only auto-download on wifi why it does it on 3g too, and is this fixed in 2.0? [14:34] for me it never downloads anything it seems [14:35] my phone is pretty rarely on 3G only though ... most of the time its on WLAN and 3G ... (routing through WLAN though) [14:37] davmor2: this is really controlled by ubuntu-download-manager. system-image keeps a centralized "database" of the settings, but because it never does downloads directly, it relies on udm to make that determination. si only knows about "manual download" vs "auto download". i agree this is somewhat unclear on the wiki page [14:39] barry: right thanks === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc [15:05] fginther, cjohnston: can you review/deploy https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/cupstream2distro-config/u1creds-fix/+merge/197264 please? [15:06] dobey, looking [15:07] fginther: ^ is what I needed to talk to you about I believe [15:09] would someone be able to debug ofono not seeing my SIM card with me? [15:10] story is as follows: I had a prepaid T-Mobile SIM for some weeks/months in the phone; it would attach to the cell network even if I was out of credit; at some point it stopped attaching, but I assumed it had been disabled or something; today I tried putting my own regular SIM in the phone, but that didn't work either [15:10] lool, i guess you should wait for awe [15:10] no GSM connection, no data, not getting the unlock SIM button either [15:10] ogra_: Ok [15:10] popey, ogra_: can you just try something on r42 open the dialer app move to call log, then press the power button, Now ring the phone does the dialer app appear or does it stay on the lock screen [15:10] or maybe rsalveti [15:10] (to not have to re-post the whole again) [15:10] it's ok :-) [15:11] ogra_: do you know where ofono settings are stored after ofono-setup? [15:11] doesnt that do telepathy-ofono ? [15:12] i would expect it to happen wherever telepathy usually stores stuff ~/.config perhaps ? [15:12] I see a .local/share/telepathy/mission-control/accounts.cfg [15:12] but nothing in .config [15:12] lool: check /usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems [15:12] All I get from oFono is GET_SIM_STATUS request failed [15:13] see what you have in there [15:13] rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6509675/ [15:13] Powered = 0 [15:13] and yeah, start ofonod with -d [15:13] note that we use the ofono.override upstart job by default [15:13] lool: right, rild is not able to see your sim card I'd say [15:13] ogra_: anyway, fwiw: LP: #1256947 [15:13] Launchpad bug 1256947 in system-image (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on buildds" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1256947 [15:14] lool: change /etc/init/ofono.override -> ofonod -d -p.... [15:14] and reboot [15:14] lets hope some buildd admin picks it up then :) [15:14] then check your syslog [15:14] rsalveti: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6509682/ [15:15] rsalveti: I've stopped and started ofono, should I reboot? [15:15] lool: better to reboot, as it could also be something with ril [15:15] ok [15:16] but from the ofono side, that basically means rild wasn't able to find your sim card [15:16] it's kind of odd with 2 different SIM cards [15:16] lool: which device? also make sure the pins are all properly in place [15:16] the phone has not been mishandled and it's kind of hard to burm the SIM slot [15:16] rsalveti: Nexus 4 [15:16] oh, that's harder to break [15:17] rsalveti: after reboot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6509689/ [15:17] its all glass ! its easy to break [15:17] * ogra_ has experience with breaking the N4 if you need help ... or a hammer [15:18] ah crap, what was the rune to enter the android container to run logcat again? [15:19] /system/bin/logcat [15:19] no need to do that in the container [15:19] or lxc-console -nandroid -t0 [15:19] but yeah, just run logcat directly [15:19] works fine from the ubuntu side [15:19] dobey, I have some questions for cyphermox on this, I'll get back to you [15:19] complaints about ttyUSB0 there, but not much about RIL [15:19] I/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 702): Property changed: gsm.version.ril-impl=Qualcomm RIL 1.0 [15:19] I/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 702): Property changed: rild.libpath=/system/lib/libril-qc-qmi-1.so [15:19] I/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 702): Property changed: init.svc.ril-daemon=running [15:19] I/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 702): Property changed: init.svc.ril-daemon=running [15:19] I/UpstartPropertyWatcher( 702): Property changed: gsm.version.ril-impl=Qualcomm RIL 1.0 [15:20] is all I have in fact [15:20] you rather want syslog [15:20] right, rild is up, would be interesting to enable debug messages there [15:20] grep for ofono when booting with -d added [15:20] ogra_: ofono can't see the sim card (via rild) [15:20] oh, sorry, missed the paste above [15:21] lool: did you flash android 4.4? [15:21] rsalveti: no [15:21] rsalveti: should I? [15:21] no [15:21] lool: no, that breaks wireless [15:21] rsalveti: actually maybe someone might have [15:21] firmware is incompatible [15:21] I lended that phoen for week-end [15:21] for an install party [15:21] right [15:22] you will need to flash 4.2 again [15:22] flash android 4.2.2 again [15:22] to make it work [15:22] but I had my data on it after the event [15:22] see if radio works, then flash ubuntu [15:22] so I'd be surprized if they flashed 4.4 [15:23] well I guess byebye to my data again then :-) [15:23] rsalveti: any quick way to check it's 4.4 though? [15:23] lool: maybe via bootloader [15:23] just in case the issue is some botched config from weird trusty upgrades [15:23] or similar [15:23] but not sure [15:24] fginther: moo? [15:24] seb128, all the current plugins in system settings have a panel?+ [15:25] lool: flash 4.2.2 again just to be sure, would also help to know if your sim card works with android [15:25] cyphermox, regarding https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/cupstream2distro-config/u1creds-fix/+merge/197264. There is no /debian in lp:ubuntuone-credentials, is that not needed for daily release? [15:25] * ogra_ hands cyphermox some hay [15:25] I have baseband M9615A-CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.84 [15:25] which seems to be 4.4 [15:26] there you go then [15:27] Cimi, yes, why ? [15:27] fginther: it is, yes [15:27] Cimi, that's their UI [15:27] seb128, so if I want to write just a backend for the moment? [15:27] fginther: there was another merge request to go with that one that was merging /daily-release into lp:ubuntuone-credentials [15:27] that was being blocked by the merge you're pointing me to [15:28] Cimi, well, store it with the UI that uses it, e.g wizard [15:28] actually not sure [15:28] cyphermox, ack, I'll approve then [15:28] this is because cupstream2distro-config is used both for CI and for daily-release [15:28] Cimi, or said different, making it a wizard cpp plugin [15:28] seb128, I'm sure we all have a fronted in the settings [15:29] you mean? [15:29] seb128, a panel [15:29] to add/edit users [15:29] one day [15:29] the wizard UI is a standalone app no? [15:29] not a panel ? [15:29] it's not on the design document [15:29] so I would think not on the phone [15:30]