[05:09] <Kilos> morning all
[05:54] <inetpro> Good morning 
[05:59] <nlsthzn> Goeie more, Suid Afrika
[05:59] <Squirm> morning
[06:07] <superfly> morning inetpro, Squirm
[06:16] <Kilos> hi superfly ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:18] <superfly> hi Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy
[06:24] <Squirm> morning Kilos
[06:24] <Squirm> bbl, going to format and put the new Mint on
[06:27] <nlsthzn> it is good, you like
[06:28]  * nlsthzn was just running it yesterday...
[06:30] <Kilos> hi Squirm nlsthzn 
[06:30] <nlsthzn> uncle Kilos , alo
[06:39] <Squirm> it's all the same :P
[06:43] <Squirm> and because I keep /home on a seperate partition, I have everything except software
[06:43] <Squirm> which is easy to retrieve
[06:43] <Squirm> all my settings are still here
[06:45] <Kilos> ya having a /home partition saves lotsa hassles
[07:52] <Squirm> 10 days left of work
[07:52] <Squirm> today is crawling along
[07:53] <Kilos> then how long leave Squirm ?
[07:54] <Squirm> 13th - 6th
[07:54] <Squirm> Maaz: 31-13+6
[07:54] <Maaz> Squirm: 24
[07:54] <Squirm> Maaz: 31-13+6/7
[07:54] <Maaz> Squirm: 18.8571428571
[07:54] <Squirm> Maaz: (31-13+6)/7
[07:54] <Maaz> Squirm: 3.42857142857
[07:55] <Squirm> oh look, I almost made Pi
[07:55] <Squirm> if my holidays were 2 days shorter
[07:55] <Squirm> Maaz: (31-13+4)/7
[07:55] <Maaz> Squirm: 3.14285714286
[07:56] <Kilos> hehe
[08:01] <Kilos> inetpro, ping
[08:01] <Kilos> http://www.ehow.com/how_7972889_build-50-mile-wireless-antenna.html
[08:03] <Kilos> maybe ill come steal your wifi
[08:03] <Kilos> hehe
[08:07]  * Kilos waits for "point is" or "ai!"
[08:15] <Kilos> where theres a will theres a way
[08:22] <inetpro> Kilos: that is just theory
[08:23] <Kilos> ok ill keep trying
[08:23] <Kilos> good morning
[08:23] <inetpro> Kilos: what do you think is the purpose of them putting the free wifi hotspots?
[08:23] <inetpro> it's all about doing business 
[08:24] <Kilos> yeah well i already use telkom mobile so i do business with them
[08:24] <inetpro> haha
[08:24] <Kilos> maybe ill ask them to put a hotspot here
[08:25] <Kilos> might just get a friendly okey to agree
[08:25] <inetpro> they put the hotspots around restaurants, post offices or such places
[08:25] <Kilos> they gotta make an exception for me
[08:25] <inetpro> they know if you sit there you will do more business, like buy food, etc
[08:26] <Kilos> i wonder what the cost of such a hotspot would be
[08:26] <inetpro> fact is, they don't build the hotspot for long distance 
[08:26] <Kilos> ya thats why the closest one is in a hair salon near the tunnel
[08:27] <inetpro> nothing for mahala
[08:27] <Kilos> thats where the antenna must make up for the distance man
[08:27] <Kilos> good antenna boost signal both ways
[08:27] <inetpro> ai!
[08:28] <charl> good morning
[08:28] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:28]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[08:28] <Kilos> im not gonna give up. lost much free wifi data already
[08:28] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[08:28] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[08:28] <inetpro> Kilos: go ahead and build it, then you show me
[08:28] <Kilos> ok deal
[08:30] <inetpro> Kilos: if you have a signal of -90dBm the antenna may be able to improve it to -70dBm
[08:31] <inetpro> but I bet you you will not even get -150dBm
[08:31] <inetpro> without the antenna
[08:31] <Kilos> i dunno how to check that
[08:31] <inetpro> and anything worse than -110 is just about useless
[08:32] <Kilos> anyway if the theory says 50 miles then my 7 ks should work
[08:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[08:32] <inetpro> jaja
[08:32] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[08:32] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[08:32] <inetpro> Kilos: with a mobile phone like your android device you can check the signal strength
[08:33] <inetpro> that is why I say, go to a hotspot and move around the area to test
[08:33] <Kilos> they dont see any signal apart from neighbour
[08:34] <inetpro> so if there is no signal then there is nothing to boost
[08:34] <Kilos> ai!
[08:34] <Kilos> ill look into the ptawug too
[08:34] <Kilos> they will have coverage here
[08:36] <inetpro> Kilos: don't confuse wifi with wireless
[08:36] <Kilos> oh my isnt it the same thing?
[08:42] <Kilos> ai!
[09:03] <Kilos> hi tinuva 
[09:21] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[09:22] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[09:55] <mazal> Morning all
[09:56] <psyatw> morning mazal
[09:56] <psyatw> morning dru
[09:56] <psyatw> drussell
[09:57]  * drussell waves to psyatw 
[10:19] <Kilos> hi mazal drussell 
[10:19] <drussell> Kilos: hey
[10:54] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[11:09] <Vince-0> !Kilos
[13:43] <Kilos> inetpro, maak planne gou!!!
[13:43] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[13:44] <Kilos> i go pump water before the power goes
[14:01] <Kilos> inetpro, ry man!!!!
[14:35] <charl> https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q71/1459181_678660362165639_1434179213_n.jpg
[14:35] <charl> hahaha !
[14:38] <Kilos> clever hey
[14:39] <Kilos> the pro didnt listen now he's gonna get wet
[14:40] <Kilos> wb psyatw 
[15:23] <Kilos> As someone has said, can't remember who, It is better to have tried and failed, that not to try at all
[15:23]  * Kilos keeps trying
[15:43] <psyatw> ty Kilos
[15:43] <Kilos> haha whats news psyatw ?
[15:45] <psyatw> Kilos, I just got back at home in the morning, had a few hours of sleep and came to work
[15:45] <psyatw> I went to Warsaw again for the weekend
[15:46] <Kilos> whew
[15:47] <Kilos> whats is warsaw that keeps drawing you there
[15:48] <Kilos> s/is/in
[16:11] <charl> hi psyatw 
[16:11] <charl> warsaw... big city stuff?
[16:12] <charl> i also live in a small city and go to some of the big cities for shopping for example
[16:12] <charl> i'm off have a good evening all
[16:13] <psyatw> Kilos, it´s the capital
[16:13] <psyatw> so many things are organised there
[16:13] <Kilos> oh jolling?
[16:13] <psyatw> I guess so
[16:14] <psyatw> I was supposed to meet up with a friend there
[16:14] <Kilos> aha
[16:14] <psyatw> but he got sick so I had to find an alternative plan
[16:43] <Kilos> inetpro, is jy nat?
[16:43] <Trixar_za> ^--- don't use that as a pick up line
[16:46] <Kilos> hahaha hi Trixar_za 
[16:46] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[16:46] <Kilos> im trying to find out if he had to bike home in the storm
[17:55] <inetpro> Kilos: nee
[17:55]  * inetpro is droog
[17:55] <Kilos> sjoe
[17:55] <inetpro> en dors
[17:55] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[17:55]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[17:56] <inetpro> :-)
[17:56] <inetpro> net so paar druppels op die pad gehad, nie ter erg nie
[17:56] <Kilos> mooi
[17:57] <Kilos> daai storm het vinnig opgekom
[17:57] <Kilos> maar net 6mm
[17:59] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro!
[18:00] <inetpro> Maaz: dankie
[18:00] <Maaz> Groot plesier inetpro my vriend
[18:00] <Kilos> ai!
[18:00] <inetpro> Kilos: staatsdiensweer
[18:00] <Kilos> lol
[18:03] <inetpro> ek wag maar net dat al die staatsdiens mense weg is en dan hou dit op reen
[18:03] <inetpro> dan kan ek ook huistoe gaan
[18:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:05] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[18:05] <nlsthzn> evening uncle Kilos
[18:21] <Kilos> Maaz, i also want coffee
[18:21] <Maaz> Then wake up Kilos and ask when the kettle is on!
[18:21] <Kilos> grrr
[18:33] <inetpro> hmm...
[18:33] <inetpro> looks like kbmonkey forgot 
[18:33] <Kilos> yeah
[18:34] <Kilos> because he dont eat meat to block stuff from faling out his brauns
[18:35] <inetpro> Kilos: so maybe you can start the open debate
[18:35] <Kilos> hahaha my head fulla wifi antenna stuff man
[18:36]  * inetpro wonders, did anybody come here for the open discussion this evening?
[18:36] <Kilos> every one here is asleep
[18:36] <Kilos> or just lurking
[18:37] <inetpro> ai!
[18:37] <Kilos> i still gotta learn how to make xchat work with 2 servers at a time
[18:37] <Kilos> but not now
[18:40] <nlsthzn> open discussion?
[18:41] <Kilos> anything goes typa thing
[18:41] <Kilos> i think
[18:43] <nlsthzn> errrr
[18:43] <nlsthzn> ok
[18:43] <Kilos> similar to our last meeting
[18:45] <Kilos> was the monkey and pros idea
[18:46] <Kilos> inetpro, whats the open discussion about?
[18:47] <Kilos> refresh memory
[18:47] <inetpro> Kilos: you bring your own topic, as far as I understand from kbmonkey
[18:47] <Kilos> oh ya
[18:48] <Kilos> neelsie^^
[18:48] <inetpro> nlsthzn: feel free to start talking, everyone else is listening
[18:49] <inetpro> Kilos: no it was kbmonkey who wanted it really
[18:49] <Kilos> oh ok
[18:49]  * inetpro is always open for discussing anything interesting here
[18:49] <Kilos> then we gotta rev him
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:50] <nlsthzn> So many topics...
[18:50] <nlsthzn> so little time...
[18:50] <inetpro> nlsthzn: like?
[18:50] <inetpro> please don't say etolls
[18:50] <Kilos> haha
[18:51] <nlsthzn> Well I know that someone likes little helicopters :p
[18:51] <inetpro> that is no longer interesting
[18:51] <nlsthzn> and no-one likes the NSA spying
[18:51] <nlsthzn> I am not sure what is hip and happening in SA right now but it is national day here
[18:51] <nlsthzn> no more choppers :/
[18:52] <inetpro> nlsthzn: looks like even amazon likes the little helicopters
[18:52] <nlsthzn> you can buy them online now from amazon?
[18:53] <inetpro> no, they want to do deliveries with quadcopters
[18:53]  * nlsthzn is at work so can't really chat ... more of sporadic ramblings... which is about normal...
[18:53] <nlsthzn> oh yes I saw that ealier
[18:53] <Kilos> hehe
[18:53] <nlsthzn> you buy and it gets delivered half an hour later
[18:53] <Kilos> wow
[18:53] <inetpro> sounds cool
[18:54] <nlsthzn> and if your check bounces they send in a drone strike
[18:54] <inetpro> not sure whether it is feasible 
[18:54] <nlsthzn> cheque
[18:54] <nlsthzn> I think the tech will be drastically different in the next 5 years
[18:54] <inetpro> amazon pushing the limits 
[18:55] <inetpro> could be interesting
[18:55] <nlsthzn> yup
[18:55] <Kilos> http://clicks.slashdot.org/c.html?ufl=4&rtr=on&s=x8pb08,1pzd9,54g,4u4u,4qsy,65az,2s7v
[18:56] <Kilos> only clever peeps will understand that
[18:56] <nlsthzn> hmmm...
[18:57]  * nlsthzn avoids the link then
[18:57]  * inetpro +1
[18:57] <Kilos> wow he was in and out quick
[18:57] <inetpro> he?
[18:58] <Kilos> * 31NAACNKO (~gansbg@62.122.73.42) has joined #ubuntu-za
[18:58] <inetpro> who is he?
[18:58] <Kilos> and left same time
[18:58] <Kilos> ?
[18:59] <Kilos> wb cocooncrash 
[18:59] <Kilos> Maaz, wb
[18:59] <Kilos> uh oh
[18:59] <Kilos> Maaz, hey
[19:01] <Kilos> something happening to the bot and the crashkid
[19:03] <Kilos> inetpro, you still here?
[19:03] <Kilos> or is there something wrong here
[19:03] <inetpro> Kilos: end of the world?
[19:04] <Kilos> lol
[19:04] <Kilos> good so its only in yankee land
[19:04] <Kilos> this wifi thing is driving me nuts
[19:04] <inetpro> don't worry Kilos, he will be back, I'm sure
[19:05] <Kilos> keeps popping up windows to connect to sis
[19:05] <inetpro> huh?
[19:05] <Kilos> stupid thing
[19:05] <Kilos> she has a whizzy thing to connect with 3g
[19:06] <Kilos> stylus whizzy
[19:06] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[19:06] <psychicist> hi inetpro 
[19:07] <Kilos> her daughter spoiled her with it and a vodafone modem
[19:07] <psychicist> hi nlsthzn 
[19:07] <Kilos> hi psychicist 
[19:07] <inetpro> good evenining psychicist
[19:07] <inetpro> evening as well
[19:07] <nlsthzn> o/ all
[19:08] <psychicist> yes
[19:08] <Kilos> haha
[19:08] <psychicist> :)
[19:08] <psychicist> I guess we're in more or less the same time zone
[19:08] <Kilos> 21.09 here
[19:09] <psychicist> 20:09 here
[19:09] <Kilos> same then
[19:09] <nlsthzn> 23:09 here
[19:09] <psychicist> yes
[19:09] <psychicist> oh
[19:09] <Kilos> oh 1 ahead
[19:10] <psychicist> and you're in the same country
[19:10] <Kilos> wow
[19:10] <nlsthzn> nope
[19:10] <Kilos> im reading crooked
[19:10] <psychicist> what about the western part of south africa?
[19:10] <psychicist> oh, where are you then, nlsthzn?
[19:10] <Kilos> oh neelsie jumped in too
[19:10] <Kilos> he is in ahab land
[19:10] <Kilos> uae
[19:11] <nlsthzn> all of SA in one time zone
[19:11] <inetpro> psychicist: in SA we only have one timezone
[19:11] <psychicist> oh
[19:11] <psychicist> I didn't know nlsthzn was in uae!
[19:12] <Kilos> yeah living on dates and camel milk
[19:12] <nlsthzn> :p
[19:12] <Kilos> hehe
[19:12] <psychicist> how did you end up being there?
[19:13] <nlsthzn> I work in the petro-chemical industry and here is where all the oil (read money) is...
[19:14] <psychicist> aha, I get it
[19:14] <psychicist> I have several friends from that region
[19:16] <Kilos> QA, hi
[19:16] <QA> hiya
[19:16] <Kilos> QA, coffee on
[19:16]  * QA flips the salt-timer
[19:16] <Kilos> inetpro, coffee
[19:16] <inetpro> Kilos: again?
[19:16] <Kilos> the crash kid got probs there
[19:17] <Private_User> hi all
[19:17] <inetpro> ai!
[19:17] <Kilos> this is modern coffee
[19:17] <Private_User> hi Kilos 
[19:17] <Kilos> hi Private_User 
[19:17] <Kilos> higher quality inetpro 
[19:18] <Kilos> maaz is dead
[19:18] <Private_User> btw I did not know that xchat for windows has only a 30day usage
[19:18] <Kilos> oh my
[19:18] <Kilos> nor did i
[19:18] <Private_User> I am now using Thunderbird to chat
[19:19] <Kilos> it works as well
[19:19] <Kilos> or you can delete and reinstall xchat
[19:19] <Kilos> just remove it properly
[19:19] <Private_User> I think I will just try this application for now
[19:19] <Kilos> clean the registry
[19:20] <Kilos> np
[19:20] <Kilos> good tool for win is ccleaner
[19:20] <Kilos> sorts more than just registry
[19:20] <QA> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[19:20] <Kilos> QA, ty
[19:20] <QA> You're welcome Kilos
[19:22] <Kilos> cocooncrash, wb
[19:24] <nlsthzn> hexchat like xchat but free
[19:24] <nlsthzn> but I paid for xchat cause it is good enough to support
[19:24] <Kilos> what do they charge nlsthzn ?
[19:25] <nlsthzn> can't remember...
[19:25] <nlsthzn> was a few years ago
[19:25] <psychicist> nlsthzn, are you an engineer then?
[19:25] <nlsthzn> well, about a year ago
[19:25] <Kilos> strange its free here
[19:25] <Kilos> aha
[19:25]  * nlsthzn wishes he was an engineer...
[19:25] <nlsthzn> unschooled worker
[19:25] <nlsthzn> *unschooled
[19:25] <psychicist> oh
[19:25] <Kilos> i wonder why they make it free to linux and charge win peeps
[19:25] <psychicist> but it's still great you ended up working there
[19:26]  * nlsthzn can't spell
[19:26] <psychicist> hmm
[19:26] <psychicist> you spelled it correctly the first time as well
[19:27] <nlsthzn> my spelling is so bad I don't even know when I spell them correctly :p
[19:27] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:27] <nlsthzn> I was lucky to get work here... but it is time to go from here and settle down somewhere... as you can't stay here
[19:29] <Kilos> go to japan
[19:30] <Kilos> and bring back wasabia plants or seads or whatever
[19:30] <Kilos> seeds
[19:30] <psychicist> for how long can you still stay there?
[19:33] <Kilos> i go crash now. night all. sleep tight
[19:33] <psychicist> good night Kilos 
[19:36] <inetpro> yikes!
[19:37] <inetpro> people talking about a tremor in pretoria/JHB
[19:37] <inetpro> pretoria and JHB
[19:48] <nlsthzn> that's not good
[19:49] <nlsthzn> psychicist: no time limit... as long as I can work I can stay
[19:50] <psychicist> nlsthzn, but as soon as you stop working you must leave?
[20:04] <nlsthzn> yup
[20:41] <psychicist> I see
[20:41] <psychicist> so you can never really settle there, I guess
[20:51] <nlsthzn> nope... if you are able to afford enough (and expensive enough) residents you can in theory stay indefinitely... but you need lots of money