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elfyochosi: not got time to deal with it now - but just so you know - neither mrpouit's nor micah's ppas have trusty - set them to saucy and then apt fails to find libxfce4ui07:40
Noskcajelfy, I still think the best course of action is to get libxfce4ui uploaded to experimental07:45
ochosiNoskcaj: maybe, but i think the best course of action is to get things uploaded to ubuntu asap07:58
elfyagreed ochosi 07:59
ochosii'm a fan of the additional value of getting things through debian, but in my experience, we lose a lot of valuable time07:59
NoskcajYeah, i'm working on libxfce now, it should be ppa ready soon07:59
ochosicool07:59
NoskcajWhat should the maintainer be?07:59
ochosigood question, if you only throw it in a PPA it's not that important08:00
ochosibut libxfce4ui is already packaged08:00
ochosimicah did that one08:00
ochosithe one we need is the indicator-plugin08:00
elfylibxfce4ui is the one I'm not finding 08:01
ochosiyeah, but for that one i would presume that copying the package within a PPA to trusty would suffice08:03
Noskcajochosi, I was adding a few changes for the pkg-xfce svn as well, minor stuff08:06
elfyI hate wandering around in launchpad trying to find downloads08:07
ochosiNoskcaj: ah right08:09
elfynot that it really matters I guess, until I can ask people to test it properly from PPAs it's a moot point08:09
NoskcajPlus i'll add symbols.08:10
ochosielfy: yeah i think ideally we will have all three packages in a PPA together...08:11
NoskcajWe should use ~xubuntu-dev for that, but i'll see if i can get it all into my PPA08:11
elfyI'm just redoing the 'old' panel for the moment 08:12
ochosiNoskcaj: yeah, in a way we should, otoh for testing it can also be a separate PPA so it's easier and more straightforward for testers08:16
ochosiin the end we should get this into trusty anyway and hopefully also back into saucy08:16
elfyyep +1 to both of those08:18
elfytbh though it's shouldn't be should get this into trusty, but have to :p08:19
ochosiyeah...08:19
ochosiNoskcaj: i really hope you'll get package upload rights soon, micahg is always very swamped with work...08:19
elfyand +1 to that as well08:20
Noskcaj:)08:20
* ochosi feels he has to keep going saying stuff that elfy will then +1...08:21
elfy+108:22
elfy:p08:22
ochosibbl08:24
NoskcajEverything is at https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/indicator-gtk3 , I probably did some packaging wrong due to not getting a test build to go08:49
ali1234ochosi: fixed GVariant09:53
slickymastermorning all10:01
slickymasterelfy: as soon as you have a minute to spare please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~slickymaster/ubuntu-manual-tests/ubuntu-manual-tests/+merge/19698910:02
slickymasterjjfrv8: ping10:02
knomeslickymaster, merged and updated in the tracker10:08
knomeerr10:08
knomenot yet10:08
knome;)10:08
knomenow it is10:09
slickymasterknome: thanks10:13
slickymasterproceeding now to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125056010:13
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250560 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Use of gksudo/gksu in testcases for Xubuntu Desktop in Trusty Daily " [Undecided,In progress]10:13
knome:)10:14
cubHi elfy, I read the "Xubuntu and Autopilot Testing" email you sent to the Ubuntu Studio devel-list asking if anyone would have time to look into it, what would that be? Where can I find out more on what we would need to do?10:24
knomecub, generally for digging into autopilot, join #ubuntu-quality10:27
ochosimorning all10:29
knomehullo ochosi 10:29
ochosihullo knome 10:29
jjfrv8slickymaster, pong10:30
slickymasterjjfrv8: morning. 10:31
slickymastermorning ochosi 10:31
knomehey jjfrv8 :)10:31
jjfrv8hey all10:31
slickymasterjjfrv8: just wanted to know if you want to split things with the xfdesktop like we did with parole10:32
jjfrv8slickymaster, you want to do Usage and I'll do Preferences?10:32
slickymasterjjfrv8: it's a deal :)10:32
jjfrv8cool10:32
slickymasterI saw that you already define in the wiki the template to work with10:33
jjfrv8ah ok, was just going to ask you that10:33
ochosiactually, before we continue, i think i'll try to replicate the namespace of docs.xfce10:33
ochosithen i don't have to change all the links again :)10:34
jjfrv8slickymaster, when you say the 'template' you mean this? http://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds-xfdesktop10:34
slickymasterjjfrv8: yeaps, that's the one10:35
jjfrv8:)10:35
slickymasterI probably should had called it the screenshot standardization document10:36
ochosihm, seems i can't easily do that as xfce does some url-rewriting...10:36
ochosiso nevermind me :)10:36
knomeochosi, boo. ;)10:36
jjfrv8slickymaster, I think I gave you the same permissions you had before. If not, maybe ochosi would be able to fix it, I won't be around til later this evening.10:36
ochosiyeah, i'm an admin on the wiki now, so if you have problems, i can (hopefully) help10:37
slickymasterjjfrv8, ochosi, if needed I'll bother you with that ;)10:37
ochosisounds good :>10:37
jjfrv8i'm surprised I could type this early :)  bbl10:39
elfyknome: ok - checked the various issues with the testcases on the pad - done bugs for them - all of them :(11:55
knomeheh11:55
elfylinked it all to the blueprint so I don't forget 11:56
knomeoki11:59
slickymasterelfy: hi, you're a hard man to find12:03
elfyhi slickymaster - I always reply to mails :)12:04
slickymasterelfy: I'm thinking that we should probably think of making a manual testcase for mugshot12:04
slickymasterelfy: I can do it, of you're ok with it12:05
elfyyep - I just want to make sure that testcases we're doing for the new features are properly installable before hand12:05
elfyI assume you saw the mail to the dev list at the weekend re the new things12:05
slickymasteryeaps12:05
elfyk12:06
slickymasterthe question is, where is the bug going to be filled against, ubuntu manual tests, mugshot itself or xubuntu -qa?12:06
elfyand I've just reported some bugs that are linked to the qa blueprint that we'll need to deal with as well12:06
elfymanual tests12:06
slickymasterdo you want me to raise it or do you prefer to do it yourself?12:07
elfyyou can if you want - just make sure to link the bug on the blueprint as well :)12:07
elfywe'll need at least 3 - mugshot/menulibre/lightlocker12:08
slickymasterok, will do, including the testcase itself, since I've already translated it and tested it before12:08
elfypossibly also gtk3 ind - but I'm not sure that we can actually test that :)12:08
elfyand if whiskermenu is going to be a default - we'll need one for that as well12:08
knomeelfy, the gtk3 indicators are going to be at least in some way intertwined with the panel tests12:09
slickymasterelfy: yes, but there's no guaranties on the whiskermenu yet, are there? 12:09
elfyyea - maybe so knome - but still what can we test? the indicators work?12:09
elfyslickymaster: no - not yet12:10
knomeelfy, yep, like if the sound indicator changes the volume when you scoll over it and such12:10
knomescroll too12:10
slickymasterwell, I'll start on the mugshot one12:11
elfyyep - not much work in getting that into a test tbh12:11
elfyslickymaster: ok :)12:11
slickymasterafterwards I'll pick up on whatever it's needed12:11
elfyslickymaster: are you going to report all 3 though? 12:11
slickymasterelfy: yes, no problem12:12
elfyok - thanks12:12
slickymasternp12:12
slickymasterI'll try to do it after lunch12:12
knomeelfy, slickymaster: just a warning that menulibre is changing... poke bluesabre 12:13
elfyslickymaster: actually - I'm sitting here feeling sorry for myself - I'll report them all and link them - you'll be able to pick them up from the blueprint12:13
elfyknome: ok - thanks - I need to tie down when these things are going to appear - was waiting till later in the day to grab bluesabre 12:14
slickymasterelfy: okie dokie, I'll wait thejn12:14
slickymaster*then12:14
knomethe menulibre changes should land relatively soon12:14
elfyok 12:14
slickymasterelfy: I'll try also to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1250560 done by the middle of the week to get it merge and the tracker updated for the wekkend12:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 1250560 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Use of gksudo/gksu in testcases for Xubuntu Desktop in Trusty Daily " [Undecided,In progress]12:16
slickymaster*weekend12:16
elfyok - all done 12:19
elfyslickymaster: ok thanks12:19
slickymasterelfy: yeah, saw it12:21
* DanChapman waves to elfy and slickymaster12:29
elfyhi DanChapman :)12:29
* slickymaster waves back to DanChapman 12:29
slickymasterhi DanChapman 12:29
slickymasterelfy: quick question, What do you mean by old format in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/125689212:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 1256892 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "No mention of menu in test for USC" [Undecided,New]12:30
elfyit's not been updated to the new way of writing them12:30
elfybut I'm going to talk to balloons about that one 12:30
slickymasterok12:31
elfyI've assigned me to it now 12:32
elfybbl12:33
bluesabreelfy, knome, slickymaster: it's going to be 95% different than the existing version, so don't bother writing any tests yet :)12:40
bluesabrebbl12:40
slickymasterbluesabre: ok12:41
slickymasterelfy: I also picked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/1256894 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+bug/125689812:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1256894 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "XFCE bottom panel missing from testcase" [Undecided,In progress]12:41
ubottuUbuntu bug 1256898 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Test Needed : xfce4 session handling" [Undecided,In progress]12:41
elfybluesabre: thanks 13:01
knomeelfy, slickymaster: edited bug 1256894 to be flavor-agnostic13:04
ubottubug 1256894 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Hidden panels' popping up missing from testcase" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125689413:04
elfyok13:04
ochosiali1234: wait, so does that mean i can test it now without trashing my panel config? :)14:42
ali1234no14:42
ali1234it means maybe it won't trash your panel14:43
ochosihehe, ok14:53
ali1234i just tried it on a different computer and it worked14:58
ochosinice14:58
ochosiso you can save your panel config with it and you can push a config-file through it?14:58
ali1234yes14:58
ali1234save.py > panel.cfg14:59
ali1234load.py panel.cfg14:59
ali1234if you have launchers it doesn't backup the .desktop, so they break14:59
ali1234copied them manually and it works15:04
brainwashdoes the software-center crash few seconds after launch for anybody else (trusty)?15:11
slickymaster_brainwash: yes, there's a bug reported on that, by me, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/120407315:12
ubottuUbuntu bug 1204073 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 in _XReadEvents()" [Medium,New]15:12
brainwashlooks different15:13
brainwashit is basically bug 125181415:13
ubottubug 1251814 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashes after launching" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125181415:13
brainwashmy report is currently hidden15:13
brainwash"software-center crashed with signal 5 in cairo_surface_flush()"15:14
ochosiali1234: sweet, that sounds almost like what you had in mind for version 1.015:14
slickymaster_brainwash: when you say hidden, you mean you can't access the report in /var/crash ?15:17
brainwashnah, set to private I mean15:17
slickymaster_ah15:18
brainwashapport has uploaded a huge core dump :D15:18
slickymaster_about 15-17 MB I would guess15:18
brainwash14.315:18
slickymaster_I've experienced that one, also15:19
brainwashI will boot a daily image and test it later15:20
slickymaster_I'm testing today's image as we speak, so in a matter of minutes I'll ping after trying SC15:20
slickymaster_ping you ^^15:20
brainwashok :)15:20
ochosielfy: if and after you've tried Noskcaj's PPA (https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/indicator-gtk3) and it works, would you mind updating the wiki instructions?15:28
elfyochosi: I'll try and get on that tomorrow at some point - and if I do get it working - of course I will :)15:29
ochosielfy: thanks very cool. i'd do it but i don't have a trusty testbox at this point..15:32
elfyochosi: yep - that's ok 15:36
slickymaster_brainwash: yeaps. comirmed15:42
slickymaster_*confirmed15:42
brainwashslickymaster_: thanks15:43
slickymaster_brainwash: I'm going to upload to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1251814 the backtrace of my crash as there is none in that bug report15:48
ubottuUbuntu bug 1251814 in software-center (Ubuntu) "software-center crashes after launching" [High,Incomplete]15:48
brainwashslickymaster_: ok, I'll mark my report as dupe later15:51
slickymaster_ok15:52
slickymaster_bbl17:39
NoskcajWhat should i do to fix https://launchpadlibrarian.net/158111167/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.xfce4-indicator-plugin_2.2.0-2ubuntu1.1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?19:30
mr_pouitchecking for gtk+-3.0 >= 3.6.0... not found19:39
mr_pouityou're missing the build dep on gtk3 devel libs19:39
Noskcajthanks, will fix19:39
mr_pouitthat was actually written in the log :P19:39
NoskcajI am too stupid for this. 19:40
Noskcajwhy can't the issue always be at the bottom of the log19:40
mr_pouitit was at the bottom of the "classic" configure script output "checking for $stuff..."19:49
mr_pouitbut because of the failure, it printed the whole config.log, which isn't particularly readable19:50
Noskcajyeah, i saw19:50
Noskcajmr_pouit,Since you are here, could you help with a gthumb packaging issue? https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/gthumb/3.2.5 has the details. 20:04
NoskcajCan someone review https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-terminal/0.6.2-4ubuntu1 ?21:05
ochosiali1234: wow, instead of the patch being merged, something rather unexpected happened and the bug in lightdm was marked "invalid" (without explanation): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/125615021:19
ubottuUbuntu bug 1256150 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Xorg guest session fails to start if the user has logged out and logged in again" [High,Confirmed]21:19
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ochosiali1234: meh, stupid me, overlooked it was marked invalid only for xorg... anyway, highlighted the issue to robert and he said he'll push your fix, so congrats and thanks! :)21:24
slickymastergood night all21:54
Unit193slickymaster: Sleep well. ;)21:54
slickymasterI'll hope so, when I'll get to bed21:54
NoskcajCan someone with a spare 14.04 install try https://launchpad.net/~noskcaj/+archive/indicator-gtk3 ? I don't fully trust my packaging23:32
NoskcajI know the dependencies are wrong, not sure what else. It should all be put in a new ~xubuntu-dev PPA really23:33
ochosiNoskcaj: if you can also upload the pkgs for saucy, i'm in23:33
ochosiNoskcaj: theoretically you could try to just copy the packages to saucy, but i'm not sure it's the same23:34
ochosieither way, thanks for your efforts!23:35

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