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Riddellhmm, shadeslayer_ needs a hackergotchi01:06
Riddellfixed01:18
Riddellkubotu: newversion grantlee 0.4.001:22
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125712901:22
Riddellkubotu: newversion plasma-nm  0.9.0.1001:38
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125713201:38
NoskcajRiddell, Why do you want 0.9.0.10 and 0.9.3.2?02:26
NoskcajAlso, what does the plasma-nm-fixes.patch patch do? It doesn't apply in 0.9.3.202:36
soeegood morning07:13
lordievaderGood morning.07:38
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1240376] Plymouthd constantly using 5% of CPU time @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240376 (by LeonMaxx)08:09
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Riddell"Subject: kubuntu-dev joined ubuntu-qt5-dev"10:23
Riddellnew uploader group for qt510:23
hsitterSput: core fixed I presume?10:24
hsitterRiddell: iso with firefox doesn't appear to be oversized xD10:25
Sputhsitter: university decided to cut power to the data center today10:28
Sputand apparently, the USV in my former lab doesn't do its job10:28
hsitterSput: how rude ^^10:29
SputI'm still waiting for their supposed admin to ask me for the root keys10:29
Sputdidn't seem to have interested him in the past two years10:30
Sputthis time I made a local backup of the database though, just in case, after last time the RAID didn't come back up...10:31
Sputbut wasn't needed, thankfully10:31
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apacheloggerand then the wifi exploded xD10:51
Riddellyay, notes.kde.org works in rekonq10:58
QuintasanI have no idea what did you do but my kmail died due to messages from LP11:26
Riddellwell I'm about to hit retry so it might happen again...11:29
QuintasanI see.11:32
QuintasanI'll just kill it11:32
Quintasanand use web interface11:32
QuintasanRiddell: Do you need any more information regarding cards11:32
RiddellQuintasan: they are in the post, maybe that's what killed your kmail11:36
QuintasanRiddell: :D11:37
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shevronhey all, I'm trying to backport the latest qt packages to precise but am having some circular dep issues.12:42
shevronThey guys at #ubuntu-packaging suggested asking here12:42
shevronI've posted my q here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/383213/backporting-qt-4-8-4-circular-dependencies-of-qtchooser12:42
shevronwould appreciate any tips12:42
apacheloggerapt-cache show qt4-default |grep qtchooser12:45
apacheloggerDepends: qtchooser12:45
apacheloggerfancy12:45
Riddellshevron: what happens if you backport qtchooser?12:46
shevronRiddell: qtchooser depends on libqt-dev which in turn depends on qt-4default which in turn depends on qtchooser12:47
shevronI'm new to deb packaging and don't know how to break this cycle12:47
Riddellshevron: I think even an experienced packager would be having problems with that :)12:48
Riddellshevron: out of interest why are you backporting?12:48
shevronRiddell: my company runs on precise due to LTS, but we need the latest Qt libs and pyside due to some bugs in earlier versions12:49
shevronI can most likely grab and build pyside from pypi but would rather have a pre-built deb12:50
Riddellwgrant: builders broken? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.7.5-0ubuntu212:50
Riddellshevron: can qtchooser be built against the qt4 version in precise?12:51
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shevronRiddell: I don't know - whats the best way to test?12:54
Riddellshevron: well download qtchooser source and compile12:55
shevronah ok I thought you meant the dev package. I'll test and update (may take a while)12:56
wgrantRiddell: Looks more like the archive is pretty broken12:57
wgrantlibpcre3 no longer provides libpcre.so.3?12:57
Riddellhmm, doko uploaded12:59
Riddellshevron: yes compiles file for me in precise, so I hope that'll solve the cirular dependency cos otherwise I think you'll be stuck removing the qtchooser bits from the qt4 package13:00
shevronRiddell: thanks, so now my question is how do I get launchpad to bootstrap with precise qt first, build qtchooser and only then re-build it for backported qt? or does that make no sense?13:02
shevronalso is that question relevant here or should I ask somewhere else?13:02
Riddellshevron: here is fine13:09
Riddellshevron: but only because we'll try and turn you into a kubuntu packager :)13:09
shevronRiddel :)13:09
Riddellshevron: you'll need an empty PPA and upload qtchooser first then upload the new Qt13:09
shevronah I see13:09
shevronkind of hackish but I guess itll work13:10
shevron:P13:10
shevronRiddell: thanks for the help. I'll keep you posted with the results later on13:10
Riddellyes it is ugly having a circular dependency but I guess we're stuck with it due to upstream's choice to make qtchooser use qt413:10
shevronI see13:13
Riddellsgclark: I can't tell if you're disconnecting or just want to show off your ipv6 address :)13:22
ovidiu-florinyofel: ping14:28
yofelovidiu-florin: yes?14:30
shadeslayerquestion, when doing a no change rebuild for a package with XubuntuY what's the next appropriate version?14:31
shadeslayerXubuntuZ?14:31
yofelusually yes14:31
shadeslayernot XubuntuYbuild1?14:31
yofelnot really, "XbuildY" still allows auto-syncing while XubuntuY blocks it. XubuntuYbuildZ is pointless14:32
shadeslayerah cool14:32
shadeslayeralright rebuilds uploaded for digikam and kphotoalbum14:36
shadeslayerhopefully things will migrate now14:36
shadeslayercalligra is already building14:37
shadeslayerugh14:37
shadeslayersomeone needs to upload kphotoalbum, I don't have upload rights14:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^14:38
shadeslayeror Riddell ^^14:38
Riddellshadeslayer: yo14:40
Riddellshadeslayer: where is it?14:40
shadeslayerRiddell: plz do a no change rebuild of kphotoalbum14:40
Riddellshadeslayer: reason?14:41
shadeslayerlibmarble transition ( libmarble16 -> libmarble17 )14:41
shadeslayermarble is blocked in -proposed since kphotoalbum becomes uninstallable14:41
Riddellokay dokay14:42
Riddellshadeslayer: but when do you plan to get MOTU?14:42
Riddell:)14:42
shadeslayer:D14:42
Riddellshortly before core-dev?14:42
shadeslayeryep 14:44
Riddellcyphermox: are you planning to go to modemmanager 0.8 soon?14:46
Riddellkubotu: newversion modemmanager-qt 1.0.014:47
kubotuPackage modemmanager-qt doesn't exist yet!14:47
Riddellhmm14:47
Riddellkubotu: newversion libmm-qt 1.0.014:47
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125731514:47
Riddellkubotu: newversion libnm-qt 0.9.8.014:47
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125731614:47
cyphermoxRiddell: right, going to need to look into it for Debian anyway14:54
cyphermoxit was indeed blocked by support for libmm and such in KDE though, so you think this has been solved since?14:54
Riddellcyphermox: oh right, yeah that new libmm-qt bug 1257315 needs modemmanager 0.814:55
ubottubug 1257315 in libmm-qt (Ubuntu) "Please update libmm-qt to 1.0.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125731514:55
cyphermoxthere wasn't just libmm as I recall though14:55
cyphermoxI thought there were parts of plasma-networkmanagement that were calling to MM directly14:56
Riddellcyphermox: mm I wouldn't think so, the point of having libmm-qt is not to have to use libmm directly14:58
Riddellcyphermox: actually it's modemmanager 1.0 that libmm-qt would like now14:59
cyphermoxI know, I wouldn't have expected it either14:59
cyphermoxI'll discuss it with mbiebl who's asked for MM before, and look up the debian bugs. I'm sure the details were listed there14:59
shadeslayerRiddell: why is valgrind required as a build-dep in digikam? ( You added it some time ago )15:02
shadeslayerDebian doesn't have it 15:02
Riddellshadeslayer: dunno, what does the changelog say?15:03
shadeslayerdoesn't say why, just says that you added it15:03
shadeslayerwith 4:3.4.0-1ubuntu115:03
* shadeslayer is building without valgrind to see what happens15:04
Riddellit won't be able to debug itself!15:04
shadeslayer-- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h - not found15:04
shadeslayerhuh15:04
shadeslayerrequired for libkgeomap15:04
Riddell        VALGRIND_PRINTF_BACKTRACE("%s", dummyArray.constData());15:05
Riddellyep, libkgeomap wants to debug itself15:06
Riddellclever eh?15:06
shadeslayerheh :)15:12
Riddellshadeslayer: did you look at libbluedevil 0.9.4? (I'm just looking at it but I wonder if you already have)15:19
shadeslayernope15:19
Riddellok groovy, I'll do a SRU too15:19
shadeslayertrying to make sure 4.11.97 migrated 15:19
shadeslayerRiddell: could you poke someone about kscreen as well15:19
shadeslayerI asked on #ubuntu-release nothing so far15:19
Riddellhmm, I wonder if we need a new SRU dude, bus factor of 1 on ScottK isn't great15:19
Riddellshadeslayer: want to be a SRU dude?15:20
shadeslayerI applied so long ago15:20
Riddelloh?15:20
Riddellyou probably need to be core-dev no?15:20
shadeslayerno clue, I was told that you could apply to be a SRU approver15:21
shadeslayerand to contact person foo15:21
Riddellshadeslayer: but foo didn't get back to you?15:23
shadeslayernope15:23
shadeslayercan't find the email as well15:23
shadeslayerit's that old15:23
shadeslayerdebian doesn't have kgeomap which is why I don't think they need valgrind15:24
Riddellshadeslayer: pst, kf5 meeting going on, want to pimp your ISOs?15:25
shadeslayerah yes15:25
shadeslayerthough kind of pointless for kf515:25
shadeslayerit's more of a PW2 thing15:26
RiddellI guess so, they seem like a fairly arbitrary separation to me15:26
shevronRiddell, I've successfully built qtchooser on lp, now waiting for qt4-x11 to build (https://launchpad.net/~shahar-evron/+archive/qt-backports)15:59
shevron(for precise)15:59
Riddellshevron: fingers crossed :)15:59
shevronRiddell, once the latest libqt4-dev is built, should I rebuild qtchooser against it? how do I trigger a rebuild on lp ?16:00
Riddellshevron: I don't think there's any need for that, qtchooser doesn't do anything complex16:00
shevronRiddell: ok. I don't need qtchooser in any case, but I thought someone else might want it in a "properly" backported build16:01
shadeslayerRiddell: any experience writing KCM's in Python?16:05
Riddellhmm16:06
RiddellI think we did have them16:06
Riddellgosh I really don't remember16:08
Riddellguadance used them back in the day16:08
Riddellit used libpythonize16:08
Riddellshadeslayer: userconfig has it16:10
RiddellX-KDE-Library=kpythonpluginfactory16:10
RiddellKCModule.__init__(self, component_data, parent)16:11
Riddelleasy16:11
Riddellshadeslayer: why do you ask?16:11
shadeslayeruserconfig?16:11
shadeslayerRiddell: need to convert my driver manager into a KCM this evening16:12
Riddellshadeslayer: what got replaced by user-manager after raring16:12
shadeslayeroh, it's not even in the archive after raring16:13
yofelshadeslayer: isn't that python3, we have no kpythonpluginfactory that supports python316:13
Riddellmm16:13
shadeslayeryofel: are you sure? I can import KDE modules just fine16:13
Riddellshadeslayer: pykde has python3 yes16:13
shadeslayer^^16:14
Riddellbut not kpythonpluginfactory16:14
yofelwell, feel free to try. Last time we accidentally built kpythonpluginfactory against python3 userconfig, synaptics and co. went mental16:14
shadeslayeroh16:14
shadeslayerthis is going to be hard to solve then16:14
yofelyou could make a copy of it as kpython3pluginfactory as a distro patch I gues16:14
yofelor just implement python2 and 3 support properly if you're bored ^^16:15
shadeslayer:D16:15
shadeslayeror call python code from inside C++ code16:15
yofelwell, it's linked against libpython, so you need 2 binaries16:16
yofelFWIW, we do have:16:17
yofelpython3-pykde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m.so16:17
yofelpython-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so16:17
yofelbut the py3 one doesn't work because the name is wrong16:17
yofel(I think)16:17
* yofel wonders whether using kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m in the desktop file would work >.>16:17
shadeslayerright, I suppose that would work16:18
shadeslayerthoughts on how to check with synaptik?16:18
yofelwell, edit the desktop file and if it breaks you've succeeded16:18
yofelkinda16:18
shadeslayernope16:19
shadeslayerfails to find kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m16:19
shadeslayerah wait16:21
yofelwell, I think it works - we simply have no py3 module for synaptiks ^^16:22
yofelfun solution though :D16:22
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/paf14250616:23
shadeslayeroddly no '.so' at the end of /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m16:24
yofelo.O16:24
shadeslayerotoh if I add .so to the desktop file I get :  http://i.imgur.com/UFTTsPv.png16:25
shadeslayerhttp://paste.kde.org/pdf71f46616:26
yofelhm, I guess the .cypthon-33m confuses it16:26
shadeslayerI suppose16:27
yofelright, now the error looks like it should be16:27
* manchicken stabs MySQL… roughtly.16:28
manchickenroughly even16:28
shadeslayerso yeah, can be done :)16:28
Riddellmanchicken: I hear maria is the new queen of mysql16:28
manchickenNot upset with our package, more with MySQL itself.16:29
yofelapachelogger: we found a solution for supreme kpythonpluginfactory py3 support ^ =þ16:29
shadeslayeryofel: possibly we rename the so to kpythonpluginfactory3 and then it can work a bit more properly via the desktop files?16:43
Riddell"CMake 2.8.8 or higher is required.  You are running version 2.8.7"  hmm this precise backport of SC needs some backporting16:44
yofelshadeslayer: yeah, would be better. Don't ask me how to properly handle that 33m ABI tag though16:44
yofelwe only have one python3-pykde though so I guess it won't matter16:45
shadeslayerpotentially barry knows , since he seems to have written the patches16:46
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 needs testers16:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:46
shadeslayer!testers | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/125412516:46
shadeslayer:(16:46
shadeslayer!testers https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/125412516:46
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about testers https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/125412516:46
shadeslayersigh16:47
Riddellubottu sees to have two tts16:47
ubottuRiddell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:47
Riddellwell that's broken16:47
* Riddell moans in #ubuntu-ops16:48
Riddell!testers16:49
ubottutesters is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se  for information16:49
Riddell!testers | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/125412516:49
ubottuUbuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed]16:49
Riddell!testers | kscreen testing16:50
ubottukscreen testing: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se  for information16:50
shadeslayerwhat fun, doesn't work with links16:50
Riddellnah the bug one takes precedence16:50
BluesKajRiddell. checking16:51
BluesKajRiddell. , changed res here without a problem 16:55
BluesKajRiddell. only one monitor tho16:56
shadeslayerBluesKaj: thx, please leave a comment on the bug 16:56
shadeslayerbut don't change the tag yet16:56
lordievaderRiddell: Got only one monitor here too, does that make a difference?16:56
RiddellBluesKaj: what version of kscreen do you have installed?16:58
Riddelllordievader: still useful16:58
lordievaderRiddell: Ok, will test after dinner.16:58
RiddellI don't think the new version is in -proposed yet17:00
BluesKajRiddell. version 1.0.2.117:05
RiddellBluesKaj: package version?17:07
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BluesKajyes, I referenced the installed package version from muon , if that's what you mean, Riddell17:11
RiddellBluesKaj: can you pastebin  apt-cache policy kscreen ?17:13
BluesKajRiddell. judt realized there's a large upgrade waiting in the repos ...let me run that and I'll check the the res kscreen changes again17:21
lordievaderRiddell: Is kscreen 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu0.1 the right one?17:34
Riddelllordievader: yes17:36
lordievaderRiddell: Ok, installing now.17:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: ping17:38
RiddellI'm not a mentor at google code in, what can we get some school age folks to do?17:38
Riddellahem17:38
RiddellI'm now a mentor at google code in, what can we get some school age folks to do?17:38
QuintasanRiddell: You're a mentor at code in? :D17:41
RiddellQuintasan: yep17:41
lordievaderRiddell: Test report of kscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125/comments/317:46
ubottuUbuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed]17:46
QuintasanI guess I'll apply for GSoC this year17:46
RiddellQuintasan: I doubt ubuntu will be in it so I guess that means kubuntu won't be17:47
QuintasanRiddell: Well, yeah, I think I'll apply for KDE project17:47
Riddellyou could suggest a kubuntu themed one like fixing up muon-discover17:47
QuintasanI'm generally more worried about our installer17:48
QuintasanI'll think about it, it's still some time17:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://pastebin.kde.org/pebvedaes17:49
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^ trying to use PythonQt with Python317:49
BluesKajRiddell. no probs with res changes after upgrading , here's the output of apt-cache policy , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515659/17:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: PythonQt the C++ lib , not the Python lib17:51
Quintasanshadeslayer: Can one simply opt out from ninja ppa failure spam?17:55
QuintasanI'm dying here xD17:55
shadeslayerdunno17:56
shadeslayerI usually mute it in the labels17:56
RiddellBluesKaj: apt-cachepolicykscreen17:57
RiddellBluesKaj: apt-cache policy kscreen17:57
RiddellBluesKaj: you need to comment on bug 125412518:00
ubottubug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125412518:00
WihoHi ya'll18:06
Wihoim in need of some help18:06
WihoTrying to install kubuntu for the first time18:07
Wihoand all i get is the terminal window asking for user and password18:07
Wihothen18:07
Wihonothing18:07
Wihohow do i get it to work like a OS ?18:07
WihoI'm using fusion vmware on my mac, and installing from a iso file18:09
Wihoubuntu was no problems18:09
Wihono kubuntu is giving me some pain in the ass18:09
lordievaderWiho: Kubuntu support is in #kubuntu.18:10
Wiho#kubuntu18:10
Wihookok18:10
Wihothx :)18:10
BluesKajok Riddell , comment done18:12
Riddellthanks BluesKaj 18:13
BluesKajRiddell. np18:14
RiddellNoskcaj: I packaged rekonq18:31
Noskcajok18:32
Riddellbah, akonadi backport breaks in precise18:32
Riddellwhich blocks18:32
Riddellwhich blocks kdepimlibs18:32
Riddellwhich blocks lots of things18:32
Riddellguess I'll try tomorrow with shevron's qt backport18:33
* Riddell throws akonadi into ninjas just incase it works18:35
* Riddell out18:35
NoskcajI'm trying to merge the new kdeconnect-kde, when building it gives the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515872/ . What should i do?18:36
NoskcajRiddell, rekonq works fine with hardening=+all, can you add that next upload?18:42
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RiddellNoskcaj: just send me the debdiff for rekonq, but isn't that on by default?19:20
RiddellNoskcaj: hmm an occational reoccuring problem that, are you on a clean trusty system?19:20
Noskcajnot clean, i'll try clean now, but my internet means that takes ages19:21
RiddellNoskcaj: ec2s available on request (although I'm about to log off so probably not just now)19:21
yofelthat qt error usually happens when qt4-default isn't installed19:21
yofel(or something like that)19:22
Noskcajand just swap hardening=+bindnow with hardening=+all  in debian/rules for rekonq19:22
yofelalthough, setting QT_SELECT is supposed to work too19:23
Riddellgrr, grantlee fails on armhf in build servers but works fine on my local pandaboard in a trusty chroot19:25
* Riddell hits retry for luck19:26
EMP__Greetings19:29
Noskcajheey EMP__ 19:29
EMP__Hello Noskcaj19:29
EMP__I have been going through the forums across the interwebs trying to set up a static ip on 13.119:30
EMP__My current attempts have failed. 19:31
EMP__I have tried editing interfaces and networkmanager.conf but I run into the issue that I do not have permission19:32
yofelEMP__: support is in #kubuntu19:32
EMP__my bad19:32
EMP__#kubuntu19:33
yofeltype: /join #kubuntu19:33
ilirhello from greece19:40
NoskcajAdding qt4-default to the build deps fixes kdeconnect-kde19:49
soeefirefox is already as default browser on daily builds ?20:25
shadeslayersoee: should be20:54
jalcinelooks like with the new updates for network manager, captive portal detection in plasma-nm is underway21:13
jalcinecurious on how it'd be done (via a HTTP 302 checker or etc)21:13
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Riddelljalcine: what's captive portal detection?22:52
Riddelljings grantlee compiled on a retry, how unsatifying22:53
shadeslayerRiddell: yofel turns out we have PPC users https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32801922:53
ubottuKDE bug 328019 in text-ui "Telepathy Message window crash" [Crash,Resolved: downstream]22:53
jalcineRiddell: it's like when you access a network; be it wireless or wired and it prevents web access until you do something it asks22:53
jalcinelike a confirmation of network use or entering in info for a form22:53
yofelshadeslayer: great, that doesn't increase our amount of PPC testers though: still ~022:54
shadeslayerah, like when Android tells you that you have to sign in22:54
shadeslayeryofel: hehe22:54
shadeslayeryofel: have a look at the crash, just to confirm , that should be reported upstream in Qt correct?22:54
jalcineshadeslayer: yup22:55
shadeslayerjalcine: neat22:55
jalcinedefinitely useful for mobile KDE22:55
jalcinespeaking of which, anyone tried it (Mer) on a Nexus 4?22:55
jalcineI got one here and curious if it's possible to get it on here22:56
yofelshadeslayer: looks like it22:57

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