[01:06] hmm, shadeslayer_ needs a hackergotchi [01:18] fixed [01:22] kubotu: newversion grantlee 0.4.0 [01:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257129 [01:38] kubotu: newversion plasma-nm 0.9.0.10 [01:38] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257132 [02:26] Riddell, Why do you want 0.9.0.10 and 0.9.3.2? [02:36] Also, what does the plasma-nm-fixes.patch patch do? It doesn't apply in 0.9.3.2 [07:13] good morning [07:38] Good morning. [08:09] ::workspace-bugs:: [1240376] Plymouthd constantly using 5% of CPU time @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1240376 (by LeonMaxx) === vinay is now known as Guest70090 [10:23] "Subject: kubuntu-dev joined ubuntu-qt5-dev" [10:23] new uploader group for qt5 [10:24] Sput: core fixed I presume? [10:25] Riddell: iso with firefox doesn't appear to be oversized xD [10:28] hsitter: university decided to cut power to the data center today [10:28] and apparently, the USV in my former lab doesn't do its job [10:29] Sput: how rude ^^ [10:29] I'm still waiting for their supposed admin to ask me for the root keys [10:30] didn't seem to have interested him in the past two years [10:31] this time I made a local backup of the database though, just in case, after last time the RAID didn't come back up... [10:31] but wasn't needed, thankfully === ghostcube__ is now known as ghostcube === hsitter is now known as apachelogger_ === apachelogger_ is now known as hsitter [10:51] and then the wifi exploded xD [10:58] yay, notes.kde.org works in rekonq [11:26] I have no idea what did you do but my kmail died due to messages from LP [11:29] well I'm about to hit retry so it might happen again... [11:32] I see. [11:32] I'll just kill it [11:32] and use web interface [11:32] Riddell: Do you need any more information regarding cards [11:36] Quintasan: they are in the post, maybe that's what killed your kmail [11:37] Riddell: :D === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [12:42] hey all, I'm trying to backport the latest qt packages to precise but am having some circular dep issues. [12:42] They guys at #ubuntu-packaging suggested asking here [12:42] I've posted my q here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/383213/backporting-qt-4-8-4-circular-dependencies-of-qtchooser [12:42] would appreciate any tips [12:45] apt-cache show qt4-default |grep qtchooser [12:45] Depends: qtchooser [12:45] fancy [12:46] shevron: what happens if you backport qtchooser? [12:47] Riddell: qtchooser depends on libqt-dev which in turn depends on qt-4default which in turn depends on qtchooser [12:47] I'm new to deb packaging and don't know how to break this cycle [12:48] shevron: I think even an experienced packager would be having problems with that :) [12:48] shevron: out of interest why are you backporting? [12:49] Riddell: my company runs on precise due to LTS, but we need the latest Qt libs and pyside due to some bugs in earlier versions [12:50] I can most likely grab and build pyside from pypi but would rather have a pre-built deb [12:50] wgrant: builders broken? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.7.5-0ubuntu2 [12:51] shevron: can qtchooser be built against the qt4 version in precise? === vinay is now known as Guest83300 [12:54] Riddell: I don't know - whats the best way to test? [12:55] shevron: well download qtchooser source and compile [12:56] ah ok I thought you meant the dev package. I'll test and update (may take a while) [12:57] Riddell: Looks more like the archive is pretty broken [12:57] libpcre3 no longer provides libpcre.so.3? [12:59] hmm, doko uploaded [13:00] shevron: yes compiles file for me in precise, so I hope that'll solve the cirular dependency cos otherwise I think you'll be stuck removing the qtchooser bits from the qt4 package [13:02] Riddell: thanks, so now my question is how do I get launchpad to bootstrap with precise qt first, build qtchooser and only then re-build it for backported qt? or does that make no sense? [13:02] also is that question relevant here or should I ask somewhere else? [13:09] shevron: here is fine [13:09] shevron: but only because we'll try and turn you into a kubuntu packager :) [13:09] Riddel :) [13:09] shevron: you'll need an empty PPA and upload qtchooser first then upload the new Qt [13:09] ah I see [13:10] kind of hackish but I guess itll work [13:10] :P [13:10] Riddell: thanks for the help. I'll keep you posted with the results later on [13:10] yes it is ugly having a circular dependency but I guess we're stuck with it due to upstream's choice to make qtchooser use qt4 [13:13] I see [13:22] sgclark: I can't tell if you're disconnecting or just want to show off your ipv6 address :) [14:28] yofel: ping [14:30] ovidiu-florin: yes? [14:31] question, when doing a no change rebuild for a package with XubuntuY what's the next appropriate version? [14:31] XubuntuZ? [14:31] usually yes [14:31] not XubuntuYbuild1? [14:32] not really, "XbuildY" still allows auto-syncing while XubuntuY blocks it. XubuntuYbuildZ is pointless [14:32] ah cool [14:36] alright rebuilds uploaded for digikam and kphotoalbum [14:36] hopefully things will migrate now [14:37] calligra is already building [14:37] ugh [14:38] someone needs to upload kphotoalbum, I don't have upload rights [14:38] apachelogger: ^^ [14:38] or Riddell ^^ [14:40] shadeslayer: yo [14:40] shadeslayer: where is it? [14:40] Riddell: plz do a no change rebuild of kphotoalbum [14:41] shadeslayer: reason? [14:41] libmarble transition ( libmarble16 -> libmarble17 ) [14:41] marble is blocked in -proposed since kphotoalbum becomes uninstallable [14:42] okay dokay [14:42] shadeslayer: but when do you plan to get MOTU? [14:42] :) [14:42] :D [14:42] shortly before core-dev? [14:44] yep [14:46] cyphermox: are you planning to go to modemmanager 0.8 soon? [14:47] kubotu: newversion modemmanager-qt 1.0.0 [14:47] Package modemmanager-qt doesn't exist yet! [14:47] hmm [14:47] kubotu: newversion libmm-qt 1.0.0 [14:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257315 [14:47] kubotu: newversion libnm-qt 0.9.8.0 [14:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1257316 [14:54] Riddell: right, going to need to look into it for Debian anyway [14:54] it was indeed blocked by support for libmm and such in KDE though, so you think this has been solved since? [14:55] cyphermox: oh right, yeah that new libmm-qt bug 1257315 needs modemmanager 0.8 [14:55] bug 1257315 in libmm-qt (Ubuntu) "Please update libmm-qt to 1.0.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1257315 [14:55] there wasn't just libmm as I recall though [14:56] I thought there were parts of plasma-networkmanagement that were calling to MM directly [14:58] cyphermox: mm I wouldn't think so, the point of having libmm-qt is not to have to use libmm directly [14:59] cyphermox: actually it's modemmanager 1.0 that libmm-qt would like now [14:59] I know, I wouldn't have expected it either [14:59] I'll discuss it with mbiebl who's asked for MM before, and look up the debian bugs. I'm sure the details were listed there [15:02] Riddell: why is valgrind required as a build-dep in digikam? ( You added it some time ago ) [15:02] Debian doesn't have it [15:03] shadeslayer: dunno, what does the changelog say? [15:03] doesn't say why, just says that you added it [15:03] with 4:3.4.0-1ubuntu1 [15:04] * shadeslayer is building without valgrind to see what happens [15:04] it won't be able to debug itself! [15:04] -- Looking for valgrind/valgrind.h - not found [15:04] huh [15:04] required for libkgeomap [15:05] VALGRIND_PRINTF_BACKTRACE("%s", dummyArray.constData()); [15:06] yep, libkgeomap wants to debug itself [15:06] clever eh? [15:12] heh :) [15:19] shadeslayer: did you look at libbluedevil 0.9.4? (I'm just looking at it but I wonder if you already have) [15:19] nope [15:19] ok groovy, I'll do a SRU too [15:19] trying to make sure 4.11.97 migrated [15:19] Riddell: could you poke someone about kscreen as well [15:19] I asked on #ubuntu-release nothing so far [15:19] hmm, I wonder if we need a new SRU dude, bus factor of 1 on ScottK isn't great [15:20] shadeslayer: want to be a SRU dude? [15:20] I applied so long ago [15:20] oh? [15:20] you probably need to be core-dev no? [15:21] no clue, I was told that you could apply to be a SRU approver [15:21] and to contact person foo [15:23] shadeslayer: but foo didn't get back to you? [15:23] nope [15:23] can't find the email as well [15:23] it's that old [15:24] debian doesn't have kgeomap which is why I don't think they need valgrind [15:25] shadeslayer: pst, kf5 meeting going on, want to pimp your ISOs? [15:25] ah yes [15:25] though kind of pointless for kf5 [15:26] it's more of a PW2 thing [15:26] I guess so, they seem like a fairly arbitrary separation to me [15:59] Riddell, I've successfully built qtchooser on lp, now waiting for qt4-x11 to build (https://launchpad.net/~shahar-evron/+archive/qt-backports) [15:59] (for precise) [15:59] shevron: fingers crossed :) [16:00] Riddell, once the latest libqt4-dev is built, should I rebuild qtchooser against it? how do I trigger a rebuild on lp ? [16:00] shevron: I don't think there's any need for that, qtchooser doesn't do anything complex [16:01] Riddell: ok. I don't need qtchooser in any case, but I thought someone else might want it in a "properly" backported build [16:05] Riddell: any experience writing KCM's in Python? [16:06] hmm [16:06] I think we did have them [16:08] gosh I really don't remember [16:08] guadance used them back in the day [16:08] it used libpythonize [16:10] shadeslayer: userconfig has it [16:10] X-KDE-Library=kpythonpluginfactory [16:11] KCModule.__init__(self, component_data, parent) [16:11] easy [16:11] shadeslayer: why do you ask? [16:11] userconfig? [16:12] Riddell: need to convert my driver manager into a KCM this evening [16:12] shadeslayer: what got replaced by user-manager after raring [16:13] oh, it's not even in the archive after raring [16:13] shadeslayer: isn't that python3, we have no kpythonpluginfactory that supports python3 [16:13] mm [16:13] yofel: are you sure? I can import KDE modules just fine [16:13] shadeslayer: pykde has python3 yes [16:14] ^^ [16:14] but not kpythonpluginfactory [16:14] well, feel free to try. Last time we accidentally built kpythonpluginfactory against python3 userconfig, synaptics and co. went mental [16:14] oh [16:14] this is going to be hard to solve then [16:14] you could make a copy of it as kpython3pluginfactory as a distro patch I gues [16:15] or just implement python2 and 3 support properly if you're bored ^^ [16:15] :D [16:15] or call python code from inside C++ code [16:16] well, it's linked against libpython, so you need 2 binaries [16:17] FWIW, we do have: [16:17] python3-pykde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m.so [16:17] python-kde4: /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.so [16:17] but the py3 one doesn't work because the name is wrong [16:17] (I think) [16:17] * yofel wonders whether using kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m in the desktop file would work >.> [16:18] right, I suppose that would work [16:18] thoughts on how to check with synaptik? [16:18] well, edit the desktop file and if it breaks you've succeeded [16:18] kinda [16:19] nope [16:19] fails to find kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m [16:21] ah wait [16:22] well, I think it works - we simply have no py3 module for synaptiks ^^ [16:22] fun solution though :D [16:23] http://paste.kde.org/paf142506 [16:24] oddly no '.so' at the end of /usr/lib/kde4/kpythonpluginfactory.cpython-33m [16:24] o.O [16:25] otoh if I add .so to the desktop file I get : http://i.imgur.com/UFTTsPv.png [16:26] http://paste.kde.org/pdf71f466 [16:26] hm, I guess the .cypthon-33m confuses it [16:27] I suppose [16:27] right, now the error looks like it should be [16:28] * manchicken stabs MySQL… roughtly. [16:28] roughly even [16:28] so yeah, can be done :) [16:28] manchicken: I hear maria is the new queen of mysql [16:29] Not upset with our package, more with MySQL itself. [16:29] apachelogger: we found a solution for supreme kpythonpluginfactory py3 support ^ =þ [16:43] yofel: possibly we rename the so to kpythonpluginfactory3 and then it can work a bit more properly via the desktop files? [16:44] "CMake 2.8.8 or higher is required. You are running version 2.8.7" hmm this precise backport of SC needs some backporting [16:44] shadeslayer: yeah, would be better. Don't ask me how to properly handle that 33m ABI tag though [16:45] we only have one python3-pykde though so I guess it won't matter [16:46] potentially barry knows , since he seems to have written the patches [16:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 needs testers [16:46] Ubuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] [16:46] !testers | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 [16:46] :( [16:46] !testers https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 [16:46] Sorry, I don't know anything about testers https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 [16:47] sigh [16:47] ubottu sees to have two tts [16:47] Riddell: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [16:47] well that's broken [16:48] * Riddell moans in #ubuntu-ops [16:49] !testers [16:49] testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se for information [16:49] !testers | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125 [16:49] Ubuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] [16:50] !testers | kscreen testing [16:50] kscreen testing: testers is Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se for information [16:50] what fun, doesn't work with links [16:50] nah the bug one takes precedence [16:51] Riddell. checking [16:55] Riddell. , changed res here without a problem [16:56] Riddell. only one monitor tho [16:56] BluesKaj: thx, please leave a comment on the bug [16:56] but don't change the tag yet [16:56] Riddell: Got only one monitor here too, does that make a difference? [16:58] BluesKaj: what version of kscreen do you have installed? [16:58] lordievader: still useful [16:58] Riddell: Ok, will test after dinner. [17:00] I don't think the new version is in -proposed yet [17:05] Riddell. version 1.0.2.1 [17:07] BluesKaj: package version? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [17:11] yes, I referenced the installed package version from muon , if that's what you mean, Riddell [17:13] BluesKaj: can you pastebin apt-cache policy kscreen ? [17:21] Riddell. judt realized there's a large upgrade waiting in the repos ...let me run that and I'll check the the res kscreen changes again [17:34] Riddell: Is kscreen 1.0.2.1-0ubuntu0.1 the right one? [17:36] lordievader: yes [17:37] Riddell: Ok, installing now. [17:38] apachelogger: ping [17:38] I'm not a mentor at google code in, what can we get some school age folks to do? [17:38] ahem [17:38] I'm now a mentor at google code in, what can we get some school age folks to do? [17:41] Riddell: You're a mentor at code in? :D [17:41] Quintasan: yep [17:46] Riddell: Test report of kscreen: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscreen/+bug/1254125/comments/3 [17:46] Ubuntu bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] [17:46] I guess I'll apply for GSoC this year [17:47] Quintasan: I doubt ubuntu will be in it so I guess that means kubuntu won't be [17:47] Riddell: Well, yeah, I think I'll apply for KDE project [17:47] you could suggest a kubuntu themed one like fixing up muon-discover [17:48] I'm generally more worried about our installer [17:48] I'll think about it, it's still some time [17:49] apachelogger: http://pastebin.kde.org/pebvedaes [17:49] apachelogger: ^^ trying to use PythonQt with Python3 [17:51] Riddell. no probs with res changes after upgrading , here's the output of apt-cache policy , http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515659/ [17:51] apachelogger: PythonQt the C++ lib , not the Python lib [17:55] shadeslayer: Can one simply opt out from ninja ppa failure spam? [17:55] I'm dying here xD [17:56] dunno [17:56] I usually mute it in the labels [17:57] BluesKaj: apt-cachepolicykscreen [17:57] BluesKaj: apt-cache policy kscreen [18:00] BluesKaj: you need to comment on bug 1254125 [18:00] bug 1254125 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Saucy) "Please update kscreen to 1.0.2.1" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1254125 [18:06] Hi ya'll [18:06] im in need of some help [18:07] Trying to install kubuntu for the first time [18:07] and all i get is the terminal window asking for user and password [18:07] then [18:07] nothing [18:07] how do i get it to work like a OS ? [18:09] I'm using fusion vmware on my mac, and installing from a iso file [18:09] ubuntu was no problems [18:09] no kubuntu is giving me some pain in the ass [18:10] Wiho: Kubuntu support is in #kubuntu. [18:10] #kubuntu [18:10] okok [18:10] thx :) [18:12] ok Riddell , comment done [18:13] thanks BluesKaj [18:14] Riddell. np [18:31] Noskcaj: I packaged rekonq [18:32] ok [18:32] bah, akonadi backport breaks in precise [18:32] which blocks [18:32] which blocks kdepimlibs [18:32] which blocks lots of things [18:33] guess I'll try tomorrow with shevron's qt backport [18:35] * Riddell throws akonadi into ninjas just incase it works [18:35] * Riddell out [18:36] I'm trying to merge the new kdeconnect-kde, when building it gives the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6515872/ . What should i do? [18:42] Riddell, rekonq works fine with hardening=+all, can you add that next upload? === lordieva1er is now known as lordievader [19:20] Noskcaj: just send me the debdiff for rekonq, but isn't that on by default? [19:20] Noskcaj: hmm an occational reoccuring problem that, are you on a clean trusty system? [19:21] not clean, i'll try clean now, but my internet means that takes ages [19:21] Noskcaj: ec2s available on request (although I'm about to log off so probably not just now) [19:21] that qt error usually happens when qt4-default isn't installed [19:22] (or something like that) [19:22] and just swap hardening=+bindnow with hardening=+all in debian/rules for rekonq [19:23] although, setting QT_SELECT is supposed to work too [19:25] grr, grantlee fails on armhf in build servers but works fine on my local pandaboard in a trusty chroot [19:26] * Riddell hits retry for luck [19:29] Greetings [19:29] heey EMP__ [19:29] Hello Noskcaj [19:30] I have been going through the forums across the interwebs trying to set up a static ip on 13.1 [19:31] My current attempts have failed. [19:32] I have tried editing interfaces and networkmanager.conf but I run into the issue that I do not have permission [19:32] EMP__: support is in #kubuntu [19:32] my bad [19:33] #kubuntu [19:33] type: /join #kubuntu [19:40] hello from greece [19:49] Adding qt4-default to the build deps fixes kdeconnect-kde [20:25] firefox is already as default browser on daily builds ? [20:54] soee: should be [21:13] looks like with the new updates for network manager, captive portal detection in plasma-nm is underway [21:13] curious on how it'd be done (via a HTTP 302 checker or etc) === ximion1 is now known as ximion [22:52] jalcine: what's captive portal detection? [22:53] jings grantlee compiled on a retry, how unsatifying [22:53] Riddell: yofel turns out we have PPC users https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328019 [22:53] KDE bug 328019 in text-ui "Telepathy Message window crash" [Crash,Resolved: downstream] [22:53] Riddell: it's like when you access a network; be it wireless or wired and it prevents web access until you do something it asks [22:53] like a confirmation of network use or entering in info for a form [22:54] shadeslayer: great, that doesn't increase our amount of PPC testers though: still ~0 [22:54] ah, like when Android tells you that you have to sign in [22:54] yofel: hehe [22:54] yofel: have a look at the crash, just to confirm , that should be reported upstream in Qt correct? [22:55] shadeslayer: yup [22:55] jalcine: neat [22:55] definitely useful for mobile KDE [22:55] speaking of which, anyone tried it (Mer) on a Nexus 4? [22:56] I got one here and curious if it's possible to get it on here [22:57] shadeslayer: looks like it