rick_h_ | I might have 3 monitors for sale wow.../me wants http://dcse.dell.com/us/en/gen/peripherals/dell-up2414q/pd.aspx?refid=dell-up2414q&s=gen | 03:38 |
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rick_h_ | and right at the edge of what this video card will do. It'll go up to 4096x2160 | 03:38 |
brousch10 | rick_h_: You would have to have it as close to your face as a tablet screen. I think the Seiki 39" 4k makes more sense as a desktop monitor | 12:13 |
rick_h_ | brousch: why do you say that? | 12:43 |
brousch | The tiny pixels will be wasted 2ft from your face | 12:45 |
brousch | "Retina" screens work because they are 1ft from your eyes, so the tiny pixels make a difference | 12:46 |
rick_h_ | I'm not sure it's wasted. It's 180dpi vs the 300+ of the smaller screens | 12:58 |
rick_h_ | and at 24" it's a chunk larger than my 21" 1920 now which isn't high res enouogh | 12:58 |
rick_h_ | I'm sure a mix of the higher res + larger fonts would make for something nice. | 12:59 |
rick_h_ | I've been dying to move past these stupid HD screens for years now | 12:59 |
rick_h_ | it's why I run 21" HD screens (20.5) as it's about as small as you can go with that res | 12:59 |
brousch | Is it really only 180dpi? | 13:06 |
brousch | That's lower than I thought | 13:06 |
rick_h_ | brousch: yea, 183.58 per http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html | 13:09 |
rick_h_ | I'm with you that there will be things I'll want to make larger, but not sold it'll not provide a chunk of useful real estate | 13:10 |
rick_h_ | then again, I've not sat in front of one so I could be wrong | 13:10 |
rick_h_ | I'll have to chat with waf and see how his awesomeWM experience went with that macbook | 13:11 |
brousch | 3840x2560 @ 20 Panasonic Toughpad 4K UT-MB4 | 13:13 |
brousch | d00d | 13:13 |
brousch | That may be exactly what I've been looking for to replace printed blueprints | 13:14 |
cmaloney | rick_h_: Oh geez | 13:30 |
cmaloney | Hey, it has a USB3 hub | 13:31 |
cmaloney | because nothing is better than having shit hanging from your monitor | 13:32 |
brousch | It's useful when your computer is hidden away | 13:33 |
cmaloney | Yeah, completley out if sight | 13:34 |
cmaloney | including the monitor | 13:34 |
cmaloney | because blergh | 13:34 |
jrwren | i love having USB on my monitor. I plug in the thunderbolt and hte USB drive is available :p | 13:36 |
rick_h_ | yea, I have usb on all three of mine. Makes for nice things like places to plug in usb drives on top of the desk, camera, etc | 13:38 |
cmaloney | I dunno. I'm a cable snob. The less I see cables the happier I am. :) | 14:21 |
rick_h_ | monitors hide the cables behind them | 14:23 |
trevlar | quick python question.. is this ok to do? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 | 14:34 |
brousch | Define 'ok' | 14:35 |
brousch | Does it work? | 14:35 |
trevlar | yeah it works. just don't know if it's the right way. it's for a weechat plugin that'll notify me on my desktop if I get a message. but if the message is 'hey trevlar, f you"; rm -rf /' | 14:35 |
trevlar | then I want to make sure it's ok :) | 14:36 |
rick_h_ | I'd rip off the code in http://docs.python.org/dev/library/shlex.html#shlex.quote since it's in 3.3 | 14:37 |
rick_h_ | or looks like a hidden pipes.quote based on http://bugs.python.org/issue9723] | 14:38 |
rick_h_ | minux the ] | 14:38 |
rick_h_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4748344/whats-the-reverse-of-shlex-split | 14:38 |
jrwren | trevlar: if it works, it is fine. now do it without forking would be my preference. | 14:44 |
cmaloney | -https://twitter.com/photonstorm/status/407872769557553152 | 14:44 |
jrwren | that means no shlexx too :) | 14:44 |
jrwren | OMG, i've seen that unicode thing a dozen times now! its annoying! :) | 14:44 |
cmaloney | jrwren: Sorry, it's the first I've seen it | 14:44 |
* cmaloney makes sure to post it at least 100 tomes more. | 14:45 | |
cmaloney | times more, even | 14:45 |
jrwren | cmaloney: i'm also annoyed because its a "duh" imo. We actually did C# hacks with that feature 5+ yrs ago. | 14:45 |
cmaloney | jrwren: I see | 14:45 |
jrwren | spaces in member names by using a unicode whitespace. | 14:45 |
jrwren | etc, etc | 14:45 |
cmaloney | please line up against the wall | 14:45 |
jrwren | so been tehre done that makes a joke less funny :( | 14:45 |
cmaloney | You'll hear a loud bang and a sharp stinging sensation | 14:46 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: why no forking on a single user irc notifier? | 14:46 |
jrwren | oh, i'm sure a fork in this case is fine. I simply prefer not to fork in general. | 14:47 |
rick_h_ | ah ok | 14:47 |
cmaloney | He's more of a spooner. ;) | 14:47 |
jrwren | Plus, I find a learn a lot of good things and good techniques about my language and environment by choosing this. | 14:47 |
* cmaloney sends myself to the principals office. | 14:48 | |
trevlar | rick_h_: ok thanks | 14:49 |
trevlar | jrwren: meaning popen instead of system? | 14:51 |
rick_h_ | trevlar: np, just seemed like a problem that must have been solved as it's just an escaping problem. | 14:51 |
jrwren | trevlar: no, popen still forks. | 14:51 |
jrwren | trevlar: i mean walk the dir tree yourself and call os.unlink yourself | 14:51 |
jrwren | trevlar: http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/729141-os-walk-recursive-deletion | 14:52 |
jrwren | trevlar: much easier to read: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/552732-remove-directories-recursively/ | 14:52 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: the point isn't to do the rm, it's to prevent it | 14:52 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: he wants to make sure none of us can say "hey trevlar watch this;" rm -rf /" | 14:53 |
cmaloney | Preventing XSS | 14:53 |
rick_h_ | and his irc little notifier will start bombing his system | 14:53 |
jrwren | oh, apparently I completely misunderstood his code. | 14:53 |
cmaloney | jrwren: Yeah, I didn't catch the purpose initially | 14:53 |
rick_h_ | at least now I get why you metioned forking | 14:53 |
jrwren | but you really want to call terminal-notifier ? | 14:54 |
jrwren | and NOW i see why rick_h_ mentioned shlex. | 14:54 |
rick_h_ | jrwren: :) | 14:54 |
cmaloney | This reminds me of having to calmly tell someone why it was a bad idea for him to automatically open URLs in IRC. | 14:54 |
jrwren | i'm not sure i would shlex it, because I think shlex would work around the semicolon. | 14:54 |
rick_h_ | and eventually the streams come untagnled | 14:54 |
trevlar | jrwren: yeah.. I looked at pync but it's just a wrapper for terminal-notifier anyway | 14:54 |
jrwren | i'd just split on space and pass that as argv to execve | 14:54 |
trevlar | ok thanks guys. worked my way through those links and tried out a few solutions | 15:20 |
jrwren | hopefully you ignored everything I said | 15:20 |
jrwren | which is never a bad idea. | 15:20 |
trevlar | only downside is that mavericks has me on python 2.7.5 | 15:20 |
rick_h_ | trevlar: right, but the pipes thing shouold be in py2 | 15:20 |
rick_h_ | and pipes.quote was ported to the shelex thing | 15:21 |
rick_h_ | so I'd guess api is close if not the same | 15:21 |
trevlar | rick_h_: ok so where do I go from here? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 | 15:23 |
brousch | mavwha? | 15:23 |
trevlar | oh I think I got it.. https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 | 15:29 |
rick_h_ | trevlar: commented. Basically you can grab the exit code of the os.system call and check it's return code for things to make pretty messages | 15:33 |
rick_h_ | but yea, the "" around the thing caused issues. | 15:33 |
trevlar | rick_h_: cool | 15:34 |
trevlar | thanks for the help. really appreciate it | 15:35 |
jrwren | trevlar: what is wrong with 2.7.5? | 15:39 |
trevlar | jrwren: some of the shlex things I was trying weren't working | 15:43 |
trevlar | rick_h_: you left a comment on my gist? | 15:48 |
rick_h_ | trevlar: yea | 15:48 |
trevlar | rick_h_: oh I don't see it | 15:49 |
rick_h_ | hmm, must not have hit submit or something | 15:50 |
rick_h_ | trevlar: tried again? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 | 15:51 |
jcastro | angular.js tomorrow at AACS if people want to make the trip | 15:52 |
rick_h_ | bah, would be cool to come out. CHC day though | 15:52 |
brousch | Move CHC to AA | 15:53 |
rick_h_ | you move your meetings to lansing | 15:53 |
jcastro | BUY A HOUSE IN AA RICK | 15:53 |
rick_h_ | it's 1.5hr for me to get to downtown AA | 15:54 |
rick_h_ | jcastro: heh, it is outside my wife's no compete zone for her practice :P | 15:54 |
jcastro | does that mean she can or cannot practice here? | 15:55 |
rick_h_ | she can | 15:55 |
rick_h_ | she can't leave her work and practice within 15mi of her current place | 15:55 |
jcastro | oh excellent | 15:56 |
jcastro | make that happen | 15:56 |
jcastro | uproot your entire life pls. | 15:56 |
rick_h_ | will do, someone just needs to pay down our house to current levels. A kickstarter of about 80K ought to do it | 15:57 |
brousch | Heh, what's up with Adobe? http://www.businessinsider.com/the-jungle-largest-homeless-camp-in-us-2013-8#welcome-to-the-jungle-the-largest-homeless-camp-in-the-silicon-valley-and-continental-united-states-1 | 15:59 |
jrwren | there is a CHC AA already | 16:29 |
greg-g | jrwren: is it still going? | 16:34 |
cmaloney | We just need to invent reliable matter transport | 16:34 |
greg-g | the only people I knew that went to it were in my grad program, who are gone | 16:34 |
cmaloney | teleportation | 16:34 |
cmaloney | I seem meeting notices for the AA CHC from time to time | 16:34 |
greg-g | cool | 16:34 |
cmaloney | So first order of business would be to break the laws of physics. | 16:34 |
cmaloney | Should be an afternoon at best. | 16:34 |
cmaloney | I'll get JoDee right on that. | 16:35 |
jrwren | teleportation | 16:35 |
greg-g | if she can't do that, what good is she? | 16:35 |
cmaloney | "Hey honey? When you get a chance would you break the laws of physics so I can meet up in Ann Arbor?" | 16:36 |
cmaloney | "kthxbai" | 16:36 |
cmaloney | Actually I think we shouldn't do that because rick_h_ would be teleporting to Portland all the damn time | 16:36 |
cmaloney | nevermind. | 16:36 |
* cmaloney scratches that off the todo list. | 16:36 | |
rick_h_ | bah, I never get to do anything fun | 16:37 |
cmaloney | Nope. | 16:37 |
cmaloney | We're clean out of fun. All we have is pain and suffering and misery. | 16:39 |
greg-g | stupid celery making perfectly good chicken noodle soup taste like crap | 19:23 |
cmaloney | Heh | 19:24 |
cmaloney | I think some folks don't understand that there is such a thing as too much celery. | 19:24 |
greg-g | and that much is >0. | 19:25 |
cmaloney | I like it in moderation | 19:25 |
rick_h_ | greg-g: https://twitter.com/sontek/status/407948351364005888 | 19:25 |
cmaloney | but the theory that celery can bulk up chicken noodle soup without adversely affecting it is sorely mistaken | 19:25 |
cmaloney | At least it's scripted. | 19:26 |
rick_h_ | I keep thinking there's a t-shirt in there somewhere | 19:26 |
rick_h_ | and maybe even a release mgr conference :) | 19:26 |
greg-g | rick_h_: :) | 19:26 |
greg-g | our rollback, luckily, is just "re-point that symlink back over there" | 19:27 |
greg-g | (basically) | 19:27 |
rick_h_ | well, crossed 200th user with a bookmark in the system woot! https://bmark.us/dashboard | 19:45 |
greg-g | rick_h_: nice | 19:45 |
cmaloney | w00t | 19:46 |
cmaloney | I think it's a spam link | 19:47 |
rick_h_ | yea, noticed that. So it's not 100% blatant enough for me to pull. | 19:47 |
cmaloney | congratulations. :) | 19:47 |
rick_h_ | so the guy works for an SEO company, he linked a few pages. | 19:47 |
rick_h_ | Queue position: 22 of 74 for the FF extension...go go go | 19:48 |
cmaloney | I thought they learned that SEO link-spamming pushed the link down in Google Results. | 19:48 |
brousch | rick_h_: You know you've really made it when spammers start using your system | 19:57 |
rick_h_ | brousch: yea, killed a couple of accounts | 19:57 |
brousch | You're legit now! | 19:58 |
rick_h_ | new my metric is all of the links on the front page are from the same day | 19:58 |
rick_h_ | my new metric that is | 19:58 |
rick_h_ | hopefully we can get the FF users coming in and going crazy | 19:58 |
brousch | Interesting. After 1-2 years of using touch screens instead of touchpads, touchpads have become annoying and tedious | 20:09 |
rick_h_ | touchpads have always been fail | 20:10 |
brousch | I liked them better than the nipple on Apple | 20:11 |
brousch | Actually I'm not using Apple, so that could still be the case | 20:11 |
brousch | This Win8 laptop came with a big touchpad | 20:12 |
brousch | On a big screen a touchpad is just so slow and imprecise to go across the screen | 20:16 |
cmaloney | The meetings will continue until productivity increases. | 20:40 |
brousch | The meetings should become more frequent until productivity increases | 20:42 |
brousch | Obviously the current level of meeting frequency is inadequate | 20:42 |
rick_h_ | jcastro: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57614300-94/motorola-delays-moto-x-cyber-monday-deal-after-site-crash/ $349 motox | 23:11 |
rick_h_ | that's getting down there nice | 23:12 |
rick_h_ | especially as I htink it's better than the N5 | 23:12 |
greg-g | fucking cnet with their stupid internal links | 23:13 |
greg-g | also, why doesn't the motorola page on the moto x include tech specs? it does for the moto g. | 23:15 |
* greg-g grumbles too much | 23:15 | |
rick_h_ | hah, this is great http://r.bmark.us/u/6e5cadc2f95457 | 23:16 |
greg-g | cmaloney: I didn't realize this: "There is a lock on new devices coming to Ting. They need to be on the market for at least 12 months prior to BYOD." -- @tinghelp | 23:43 |
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