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rick_h_I might have 3 monitors for sale wow.../me wants http://dcse.dell.com/us/en/gen/peripherals/dell-up2414q/pd.aspx?refid=dell-up2414q&s=gen03:38
rick_h_and right at the edge of what this video card will do. It'll go up to 4096x216003:38
brousch10rick_h_: You would have to have it as close to your face as a tablet screen. I think the Seiki 39" 4k makes more sense as a desktop monitor12:13
rick_h_brousch: why do you say that?12:43
brouschThe tiny pixels will be wasted 2ft from your face12:45
brousch"Retina" screens work because they are 1ft from your eyes, so the tiny pixels make a difference12:46
rick_h_I'm not sure it's wasted. It's 180dpi vs the 300+ of the smaller screens12:58
rick_h_and at 24" it's a chunk larger than my 21" 1920 now which isn't high res enouogh12:58
rick_h_I'm sure a mix of the higher res + larger fonts would make for something nice.12:59
rick_h_I've been dying to move past these stupid HD screens for years now12:59
rick_h_it's why I run 21" HD screens (20.5) as it's about as small as you can go with that res12:59
brouschIs it really only 180dpi?13:06
brouschThat's lower than I thought13:06
rick_h_brousch: yea, 183.58 per http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html13:09
rick_h_I'm with you that there will be things I'll want to make larger, but not sold it'll not provide a chunk of useful real estate13:10
rick_h_then again, I've not sat in front of one so I could be wrong13:10
rick_h_I'll have to chat with waf and see how his awesomeWM experience went with that macbook13:11
brousch3840x2560 @ 20 Panasonic Toughpad 4K UT-MB413:13
brouschd00d13:13
brouschThat may be exactly what I've been looking for to replace printed blueprints13:14
cmaloneyrick_h_: Oh geez13:30
cmaloneyHey, it has a USB3 hub13:31
cmaloneybecause nothing is better than having shit hanging from your monitor13:32
brouschIt's useful when your computer is hidden away13:33
cmaloneyYeah, completley out if sight13:34
cmaloneyincluding the monitor13:34
cmaloneybecause blergh13:34
jrwreni love having USB on my monitor. I plug in the thunderbolt and hte USB drive is available :p13:36
rick_h_yea, I have usb on all three of mine. Makes for nice things like places to plug in usb drives on top of the desk, camera, etc13:38
cmaloneyI dunno. I'm a cable snob. The less I see cables the happier I am. :)14:21
rick_h_monitors hide the cables behind them14:23
trevlarquick python question.. is this ok to do? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/776986714:34
brouschDefine 'ok'14:35
brouschDoes it work?14:35
trevlaryeah it works. just don't know if it's the right way. it's for a weechat plugin that'll notify me on my desktop if I get a message. but if the message is 'hey trevlar, f you"; rm -rf /'14:35
trevlarthen I want to make sure it's ok :)14:36
rick_h_I'd rip off the code in http://docs.python.org/dev/library/shlex.html#shlex.quote since it's in 3.314:37
rick_h_or looks like a hidden pipes.quote based on http://bugs.python.org/issue9723]14:38
rick_h_minux the ]14:38
rick_h_http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4748344/whats-the-reverse-of-shlex-split14:38
jrwrentrevlar: if it works, it is fine.  now do it without forking would be my preference.14:44
cmaloney-https://twitter.com/photonstorm/status/40787276955755315214:44
jrwrenthat means no shlexx too :)14:44
jrwrenOMG, i've seen that unicode thing a dozen times now! its annoying! :)14:44
cmaloneyjrwren: Sorry, it's the first I've seen it14:44
* cmaloney makes sure to post it at least 100 tomes more.14:45
cmaloneytimes more, even14:45
jrwrencmaloney: i'm also annoyed because its a "duh" imo. We actually did C# hacks with that feature 5+ yrs ago.14:45
cmaloneyjrwren: I see14:45
jrwrenspaces in member names by using a unicode whitespace.14:45
jrwrenetc, etc14:45
cmaloneyplease line up against the wall14:45
jrwrenso been tehre done that makes a joke less funny :(14:45
cmaloneyYou'll hear a loud bang and a sharp stinging sensation14:46
rick_h_jrwren: why no forking on a single user irc notifier?14:46
jrwrenoh, i'm sure a fork in this case is fine. I simply prefer not to fork in general.14:47
rick_h_ah ok14:47
cmaloneyHe's more of a spooner. ;)14:47
jrwrenPlus, I find a learn a lot of good things and good techniques about my language and environment by choosing this.14:47
* cmaloney sends myself to the principals office.14:48
trevlarrick_h_: ok thanks14:49
trevlarjrwren: meaning popen instead of system?14:51
rick_h_trevlar: np, just seemed like a problem that must have been solved as it's just an escaping problem.14:51
jrwrentrevlar: no, popen still forks.14:51
jrwrentrevlar: i mean walk the dir tree yourself and call os.unlink yourself14:51
jrwrentrevlar: http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/729141-os-walk-recursive-deletion14:52
jrwrentrevlar: much easier to read: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/552732-remove-directories-recursively/14:52
rick_h_jrwren: the point isn't to do the rm, it's to prevent it14:52
rick_h_jrwren: he wants to make sure none of us can say "hey trevlar watch this;" rm -rf /"14:53
cmaloneyPreventing XSS14:53
rick_h_and his irc little notifier will start bombing his system14:53
jrwrenoh, apparently I completely misunderstood his code.14:53
cmaloneyjrwren: Yeah, I didn't catch the purpose initially14:53
rick_h_at least now I get why you metioned forking14:53
jrwrenbut you really want to call terminal-notifier ?14:54
jrwrenand NOW i see why rick_h_ mentioned shlex.14:54
rick_h_jrwren: :)14:54
cmaloneyThis reminds me of having to calmly tell someone why it was a bad idea for him to automatically open URLs in IRC.14:54
jrwreni'm not sure i would shlex it, because I think shlex would work around the semicolon.14:54
rick_h_and eventually the streams come untagnled14:54
trevlarjrwren: yeah.. I looked at pync but it's just a wrapper for terminal-notifier anyway14:54
jrwreni'd just split on space and pass that as argv to execve14:54
trevlarok thanks guys. worked my way through those links and tried out a few solutions15:20
jrwrenhopefully you ignored everything I said15:20
jrwrenwhich is never a bad idea.15:20
trevlaronly downside is that mavericks has me on python 2.7.515:20
rick_h_trevlar: right, but the pipes thing shouold be in py215:20
rick_h_and pipes.quote was ported to the shelex thing15:21
rick_h_so I'd guess api is close if not the same15:21
trevlarrick_h_: ok so where do I go from here? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/776986715:23
brouschmavwha?15:23
trevlaroh I think I got it.. https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/776986715:29
rick_h_trevlar: commented. Basically you can grab the exit code of the os.system call and check it's return code for things to make pretty messages15:33
rick_h_but yea, the "" around the thing caused issues.15:33
trevlarrick_h_: cool15:34
trevlarthanks for the help. really appreciate it15:35
jrwrentrevlar: what is wrong with 2.7.5?15:39
trevlarjrwren: some of the shlex things I was trying weren't working15:43
trevlarrick_h_: you left a comment on my gist?15:48
rick_h_trevlar: yea15:48
trevlarrick_h_: oh I don't see it15:49
rick_h_hmm, must not have hit submit or something15:50
rick_h_trevlar: tried again? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/776986715:51
jcastroangular.js tomorrow at AACS if people want to make the trip15:52
rick_h_bah, would be cool to come out. CHC day though15:52
brouschMove CHC to AA15:53
rick_h_you move your meetings to lansing15:53
jcastroBUY A HOUSE IN AA RICK15:53
rick_h_it's 1.5hr for me to get to downtown AA15:54
rick_h_jcastro: heh, it is outside my wife's no compete zone for her practice :P15:54
jcastrodoes that mean she can or cannot practice here?15:55
rick_h_she can15:55
rick_h_she can't leave her work and practice within 15mi of her current place15:55
jcastrooh excellent15:56
jcastromake that happen15:56
jcastrouproot your entire life pls.15:56
rick_h_will do, someone just needs to pay down our house to current levels. A kickstarter of about 80K ought to do it15:57
brouschHeh, what's up with Adobe? http://www.businessinsider.com/the-jungle-largest-homeless-camp-in-us-2013-8#welcome-to-the-jungle-the-largest-homeless-camp-in-the-silicon-valley-and-continental-united-states-115:59
jrwrenthere is a CHC AA already16:29
greg-gjrwren: is it still going?16:34
cmaloneyWe just need to invent reliable matter transport16:34
greg-gthe only people I knew that went to it were in my grad program, who are gone16:34
cmaloneyteleportation16:34
cmaloneyI seem meeting notices for the AA CHC from time to time16:34
greg-gcool16:34
cmaloneySo first order of business would be to break the laws of physics.16:34
cmaloneyShould be an afternoon at best.16:34
cmaloneyI'll get JoDee right on that.16:35
jrwrenteleportation16:35
greg-gif she can't do that, what good is she?16:35
cmaloney"Hey honey? When you get a chance would you break the laws of physics so I can meet up in Ann Arbor?"16:36
cmaloney"kthxbai"16:36
cmaloneyActually I think we shouldn't do that because rick_h_ would be teleporting to Portland all the damn time16:36
cmaloneynevermind.16:36
* cmaloney scratches that off the todo list.16:36
rick_h_bah, I never get to do anything fun16:37
cmaloneyNope.16:37
cmaloneyWe're clean out of fun. All we have is pain and suffering and misery.16:39
greg-gstupid celery making perfectly good chicken noodle soup taste like crap19:23
cmaloneyHeh19:24
cmaloneyI think some folks don't understand that there is such a thing as too much celery.19:24
greg-gand that much is >0.19:25
cmaloneyI like it in moderation19:25
rick_h_greg-g: https://twitter.com/sontek/status/40794835136400588819:25
cmaloneybut the theory that celery can bulk up chicken noodle soup without adversely affecting it is sorely mistaken19:25
cmaloneyAt least it's scripted.19:26
rick_h_I keep thinking there's a t-shirt in there somewhere19:26
rick_h_and maybe even a release mgr conference :)19:26
greg-grick_h_: :)19:26
greg-gour rollback, luckily, is just "re-point that symlink back over there"19:27
greg-g(basically)19:27
rick_h_well, crossed 200th user with a bookmark in the system woot! https://bmark.us/dashboard19:45
greg-grick_h_: nice19:45
cmaloneyw00t19:46
cmaloneyI think it's a spam link19:47
rick_h_yea, noticed that. So it's not 100% blatant enough for me to pull.19:47
cmaloneycongratulations. :)19:47
rick_h_so the guy works for an SEO company, he linked a few pages.19:47
rick_h_Queue position: 22 of 74 for the FF extension...go go go19:48
cmaloneyI thought they learned that SEO link-spamming pushed the link down in Google Results.19:48
brouschrick_h_: You know you've really made it when spammers start using your system19:57
rick_h_brousch: yea, killed a couple of accounts19:57
brouschYou're legit now!19:58
rick_h_new my metric is all of the links on the front page are from the same day19:58
rick_h_my new metric that is19:58
rick_h_hopefully we can get the FF users coming in and going crazy19:58
brouschInteresting. After 1-2 years of using touch screens instead of touchpads, touchpads have become annoying and tedious20:09
rick_h_touchpads have always been fail20:10
brouschI liked them better than the nipple on Apple20:11
brouschActually I'm not using Apple, so that could still be the case20:11
brouschThis Win8 laptop came with a big touchpad20:12
brouschOn a big screen a touchpad is just so slow and imprecise to go across the screen20:16
cmaloneyThe meetings will continue until productivity increases.20:40
brouschThe meetings should become more frequent until productivity increases20:42
brouschObviously the current level of meeting frequency is inadequate20:42
rick_h_jcastro: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57614300-94/motorola-delays-moto-x-cyber-monday-deal-after-site-crash/ $349 motox23:11
rick_h_that's getting down there nice23:12
rick_h_especially as I htink it's better than the N523:12
greg-gfucking cnet with their stupid internal links23:13
greg-galso, why doesn't the motorola page on the moto x include tech specs? it does for the moto g.23:15
* greg-g grumbles too much23:15
rick_h_hah, this is great http://r.bmark.us/u/6e5cadc2f9545723:16
greg-gcmaloney: I didn't realize this: "There is a lock on new devices coming to Ting. They need to be on the market for at least 12 months prior to BYOD." -- @tinghelp23:43

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