[03:38] I might have 3 monitors for sale wow.../me wants http://dcse.dell.com/us/en/gen/peripherals/dell-up2414q/pd.aspx?refid=dell-up2414q&s=gen [03:38] and right at the edge of what this video card will do. It'll go up to 4096x2160 [12:13] rick_h_: You would have to have it as close to your face as a tablet screen. I think the Seiki 39" 4k makes more sense as a desktop monitor [12:43] brousch: why do you say that? [12:45] The tiny pixels will be wasted 2ft from your face [12:46] "Retina" screens work because they are 1ft from your eyes, so the tiny pixels make a difference [12:58] I'm not sure it's wasted. It's 180dpi vs the 300+ of the smaller screens [12:58] and at 24" it's a chunk larger than my 21" 1920 now which isn't high res enouogh [12:59] I'm sure a mix of the higher res + larger fonts would make for something nice. [12:59] I've been dying to move past these stupid HD screens for years now [12:59] it's why I run 21" HD screens (20.5) as it's about as small as you can go with that res [13:06] Is it really only 180dpi? [13:06] That's lower than I thought [13:09] brousch: yea, 183.58 per http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html [13:10] I'm with you that there will be things I'll want to make larger, but not sold it'll not provide a chunk of useful real estate [13:10] then again, I've not sat in front of one so I could be wrong [13:11] I'll have to chat with waf and see how his awesomeWM experience went with that macbook [13:13] 3840x2560 @ 20 Panasonic Toughpad 4K UT-MB4 [13:13] d00d [13:14] That may be exactly what I've been looking for to replace printed blueprints [13:30] rick_h_: Oh geez [13:31] Hey, it has a USB3 hub [13:32] because nothing is better than having shit hanging from your monitor [13:33] It's useful when your computer is hidden away [13:34] Yeah, completley out if sight [13:34] including the monitor [13:34] because blergh [13:36] i love having USB on my monitor. I plug in the thunderbolt and hte USB drive is available :p [13:38] yea, I have usb on all three of mine. Makes for nice things like places to plug in usb drives on top of the desk, camera, etc [14:21] I dunno. I'm a cable snob. The less I see cables the happier I am. :) [14:23] monitors hide the cables behind them [14:34] quick python question.. is this ok to do? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 [14:35] Define 'ok' [14:35] Does it work? [14:35] yeah it works. just don't know if it's the right way. it's for a weechat plugin that'll notify me on my desktop if I get a message. but if the message is 'hey trevlar, f you"; rm -rf /' [14:36] then I want to make sure it's ok :) [14:37] I'd rip off the code in http://docs.python.org/dev/library/shlex.html#shlex.quote since it's in 3.3 [14:38] or looks like a hidden pipes.quote based on http://bugs.python.org/issue9723] [14:38] minux the ] [14:38] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4748344/whats-the-reverse-of-shlex-split [14:44] trevlar: if it works, it is fine. now do it without forking would be my preference. [14:44] -https://twitter.com/photonstorm/status/407872769557553152 [14:44] that means no shlexx too :) [14:44] OMG, i've seen that unicode thing a dozen times now! its annoying! :) [14:44] jrwren: Sorry, it's the first I've seen it [14:45] * cmaloney makes sure to post it at least 100 tomes more. [14:45] times more, even [14:45] cmaloney: i'm also annoyed because its a "duh" imo. We actually did C# hacks with that feature 5+ yrs ago. [14:45] jrwren: I see [14:45] spaces in member names by using a unicode whitespace. [14:45] etc, etc [14:45] please line up against the wall [14:45] so been tehre done that makes a joke less funny :( [14:46] You'll hear a loud bang and a sharp stinging sensation [14:46] jrwren: why no forking on a single user irc notifier? [14:47] oh, i'm sure a fork in this case is fine. I simply prefer not to fork in general. [14:47] ah ok [14:47] He's more of a spooner. ;) [14:47] Plus, I find a learn a lot of good things and good techniques about my language and environment by choosing this. [14:48] * cmaloney sends myself to the principals office. [14:49] rick_h_: ok thanks [14:51] jrwren: meaning popen instead of system? [14:51] trevlar: np, just seemed like a problem that must have been solved as it's just an escaping problem. [14:51] trevlar: no, popen still forks. [14:51] trevlar: i mean walk the dir tree yourself and call os.unlink yourself [14:52] trevlar: http://bytes.com/topic/python/answers/729141-os-walk-recursive-deletion [14:52] trevlar: much easier to read: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/552732-remove-directories-recursively/ [14:52] jrwren: the point isn't to do the rm, it's to prevent it [14:53] jrwren: he wants to make sure none of us can say "hey trevlar watch this;" rm -rf /" [14:53] Preventing XSS [14:53] and his irc little notifier will start bombing his system [14:53] oh, apparently I completely misunderstood his code. [14:53] jrwren: Yeah, I didn't catch the purpose initially [14:53] at least now I get why you metioned forking [14:54] but you really want to call terminal-notifier ? [14:54] and NOW i see why rick_h_ mentioned shlex. [14:54] jrwren: :) [14:54] This reminds me of having to calmly tell someone why it was a bad idea for him to automatically open URLs in IRC. [14:54] i'm not sure i would shlex it, because I think shlex would work around the semicolon. [14:54] and eventually the streams come untagnled [14:54] jrwren: yeah.. I looked at pync but it's just a wrapper for terminal-notifier anyway [14:54] i'd just split on space and pass that as argv to execve [15:20] ok thanks guys. worked my way through those links and tried out a few solutions [15:20] hopefully you ignored everything I said [15:20] which is never a bad idea. [15:20] only downside is that mavericks has me on python 2.7.5 [15:20] trevlar: right, but the pipes thing shouold be in py2 [15:21] and pipes.quote was ported to the shelex thing [15:21] so I'd guess api is close if not the same [15:23] rick_h_: ok so where do I go from here? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 [15:23] mavwha? [15:29] oh I think I got it.. https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 [15:33] trevlar: commented. Basically you can grab the exit code of the os.system call and check it's return code for things to make pretty messages [15:33] but yea, the "" around the thing caused issues. [15:34] rick_h_: cool [15:35] thanks for the help. really appreciate it [15:39] trevlar: what is wrong with 2.7.5? [15:43] jrwren: some of the shlex things I was trying weren't working [15:48] rick_h_: you left a comment on my gist? [15:48] trevlar: yea [15:49] rick_h_: oh I don't see it [15:50] hmm, must not have hit submit or something [15:51] trevlar: tried again? https://gist.github.com/fitztrev/7769867 [15:52] angular.js tomorrow at AACS if people want to make the trip [15:52] bah, would be cool to come out. CHC day though [15:53] Move CHC to AA [15:53] you move your meetings to lansing [15:53] BUY A HOUSE IN AA RICK [15:54] it's 1.5hr for me to get to downtown AA [15:54] jcastro: heh, it is outside my wife's no compete zone for her practice :P [15:55] does that mean she can or cannot practice here? [15:55] she can [15:55] she can't leave her work and practice within 15mi of her current place [15:56] oh excellent [15:56] make that happen [15:56] uproot your entire life pls. [15:57] will do, someone just needs to pay down our house to current levels. A kickstarter of about 80K ought to do it [15:59] Heh, what's up with Adobe? http://www.businessinsider.com/the-jungle-largest-homeless-camp-in-us-2013-8#welcome-to-the-jungle-the-largest-homeless-camp-in-the-silicon-valley-and-continental-united-states-1 [16:29] there is a CHC AA already [16:34] jrwren: is it still going? [16:34] We just need to invent reliable matter transport [16:34] the only people I knew that went to it were in my grad program, who are gone [16:34] teleportation [16:34] I seem meeting notices for the AA CHC from time to time [16:34] cool [16:34] So first order of business would be to break the laws of physics. [16:34] Should be an afternoon at best. [16:35] I'll get JoDee right on that. [16:35] teleportation [16:35] if she can't do that, what good is she? [16:36] "Hey honey? When you get a chance would you break the laws of physics so I can meet up in Ann Arbor?" [16:36] "kthxbai" [16:36] Actually I think we shouldn't do that because rick_h_ would be teleporting to Portland all the damn time [16:36] nevermind. [16:36] * cmaloney scratches that off the todo list. [16:37] bah, I never get to do anything fun [16:37] Nope. [16:39] We're clean out of fun. All we have is pain and suffering and misery. [19:23] stupid celery making perfectly good chicken noodle soup taste like crap [19:24] Heh [19:24] I think some folks don't understand that there is such a thing as too much celery. [19:25] and that much is >0. [19:25] I like it in moderation [19:25] greg-g: https://twitter.com/sontek/status/407948351364005888 [19:25] but the theory that celery can bulk up chicken noodle soup without adversely affecting it is sorely mistaken [19:26] At least it's scripted. [19:26] I keep thinking there's a t-shirt in there somewhere [19:26] and maybe even a release mgr conference :) [19:26] rick_h_: :) [19:27] our rollback, luckily, is just "re-point that symlink back over there" [19:27] (basically) [19:45] well, crossed 200th user with a bookmark in the system woot! https://bmark.us/dashboard [19:45] rick_h_: nice [19:46] w00t [19:47] I think it's a spam link [19:47] yea, noticed that. So it's not 100% blatant enough for me to pull. [19:47] congratulations. :) [19:47] so the guy works for an SEO company, he linked a few pages. [19:48] Queue position: 22 of 74 for the FF extension...go go go [19:48] I thought they learned that SEO link-spamming pushed the link down in Google Results. [19:57] rick_h_: You know you've really made it when spammers start using your system [19:57] brousch: yea, killed a couple of accounts [19:58] You're legit now! [19:58] new my metric is all of the links on the front page are from the same day [19:58] my new metric that is [19:58] hopefully we can get the FF users coming in and going crazy [20:09] Interesting. After 1-2 years of using touch screens instead of touchpads, touchpads have become annoying and tedious [20:10] touchpads have always been fail [20:11] I liked them better than the nipple on Apple [20:11] Actually I'm not using Apple, so that could still be the case [20:12] This Win8 laptop came with a big touchpad [20:16] On a big screen a touchpad is just so slow and imprecise to go across the screen [20:40] The meetings will continue until productivity increases. [20:42] The meetings should become more frequent until productivity increases [20:42] Obviously the current level of meeting frequency is inadequate [23:11] jcastro: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57614300-94/motorola-delays-moto-x-cyber-monday-deal-after-site-crash/ $349 motox [23:12] that's getting down there nice [23:12] especially as I htink it's better than the N5 [23:13] fucking cnet with their stupid internal links [23:15] also, why doesn't the motorola page on the moto x include tech specs? it does for the moto g. [23:15] * greg-g grumbles too much [23:16] hah, this is great http://r.bmark.us/u/6e5cadc2f95457 [23:43] cmaloney: I didn't realize this: "There is a lock on new devices coming to Ting. They need to be on the market for at least 12 months prior to BYOD." -- @tinghelp