[12:10] <mck182> hi, while trying the nvidia drivers from xorg-edgers ppa, I'm getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" - is this known on 13.10?
[12:10] <mck182> I'm on kubuntu, added the repo via add-apt-repository 
[12:11] <mlankhorst> might need to run apt-get update again
[12:11]  * mck182 tries
[12:11] <mck182> aha
[12:12] <mck182> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net saucy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4F191A5A8844C542
[12:12] <tjaalton> you need to import the key
[12:12] <tjaalton> or just ignore it
[12:13] <mck182> I thought the key is imported automatically :O
[12:13] <mck182> tjaalton: how do I import it then?
[12:13] <mck182> I'd rather have signed stuff running here ;)
[12:14] <tjaalton> use apt-add-repository..
[12:14] <mck182> that's what I did
[12:15] <tjaalton> it should import the key
[12:15] <mck182> that's what I thought
[12:15] <tjaalton> does 'apt-key list' show it?
[12:16] <mck182> no, it gives me... "gpg: fatal: /home/mck182/.gnupg: directory does not exist!" ...?
[12:17] <mck182> (it does really not exist)
[12:17] <mck182> that doesn't sound right
[12:17] <mck182> shadeslayer: ^
[12:17] <tjaalton> no it doesn't
[12:17] <tjaalton> your environment is messed up somehow
[12:19] <mck182> it's moreless a default install
[12:20] <tjaalton> it shouldn't look there
[12:20] <tjaalton> you ran apt-key list?
[12:20] <tjaalton> not gpg-key?
[12:20] <mck182> yes
[12:20] <shadeslayer> I thought it looks in /etc/apt/trusted.gpg
[12:20] <tjaalton> does here
[12:21] <mck182> it does too
[12:21] <mck182> according to strace
[12:21] <tjaalton> (and no gkg-key, but gpg --list-keys)
[12:21] <mck182> I'm running "apt-key list"
[12:21] <tjaalton> ok run it as root then
[12:22] <mck182> that's different
[12:22] <tjaalton> repro'd here
[12:22] <mck182> couple Ubuntu keys
[12:22] <mck182> ok hold on
[12:22] <tjaalton> by moving .gnupg out
[12:22] <mck182> http://paste.kde.org/p59a3254c
[12:23] <tjaalton> anyway, the import failed for some reason, works here
[12:25] <mck182> yeah, I got that :)
[12:25] <mck182> can I import it manually?
[12:26] <shadeslayer> yep
[12:26] <mck182> tell me
[12:27] <shadeslayer> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/InstallingSoftware
[12:27] <shadeslayer> mck182: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys KEYS
[12:27] <shadeslayer> where KEYS is the thing that you copy over from the PPA page
[12:29] <mck182> shadeslayer: the whole thing? with deb...saucy main?
[12:29] <shadeslayer> no
[12:29] <shadeslayer> see the link I posted above
[12:30] <tjaalton> or just remove the sources.list.d file and reimport using apt-add-repository..
[12:32] <mck182> shadeslayer: yup, that worked
[12:32] <mck182> thank you guys
[12:35] <shadeslayer> cool
[14:17] <mlankhorst> Prf_Jakob: hey can you make a new xserver-xorg-video-vmware release some time soon? :)
[14:17] <Prf_Jakob> mlankhorst: sure :)
[14:18] <Prf_Jakob> We might want to bump the major with the XA change.
[14:18] <Prf_Jakob> mlankhorst: oh which XA version are you guys on?
[14:18] <mlankhorst> mesa 10 soon
[14:18] <mlankhorst> so the major bump
[14:18] <Prf_Jakob> kay
[14:20] <Prf_Jakob> I'll ask internally what we want to do, either we will just add a bunch of ifdefs in the code or do a old stable and bump the major.
[14:20] <Prf_Jakob> which do you guys prefer or is it all the same?
[14:20] <mlankhorst> well we're going to transition to mesa 10 soon, and we don't need backwards compat
[14:22] <Prf_Jakob> kay
[21:16] <ricotz> Sarvatt, hey, do forget to get some love to trusty too ;)
[21:16] <Sarvatt> its all going into trust really really soon :)
[21:16] <ricotz> good then :)