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Kiloshi mazal psychicist and others05:07
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:01
superflymorning Kilos, ThatGraemeGuy06:04
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:05
Kilosmorning superfly 06:05
Kiloshows the fly and family today?06:05
superflytired06:08
Kilosai!06:08
inetprogood mornings06:32
Kiloshi inetpro 06:32
Kilos7mm06:32
inetproKilos: last night?06:33
* inetpro didn't notice any rains06:33
* Kilos needs to power down to remove wireless card for modification purposes06:33
Kilosyeah last night06:33
Kilosand yesterday avy when i warned you06:34
Kiloswbb06:34
* Kilos came again back06:39
superflytumbleweed: ping07:01
tumbleweedsuperfly: hi07:02
superflytumbleweed: I'm having issues with my computer again -_-07:02
tumbleweedyeah?07:04
superflyif I run strace on a couple of apps that appear to hang, these are the last few lines: http://pastebin.com/bkTqk6QT07:04
superflyKate was one, and TortoiseHG was another07:05
superflyout of the repos, nothing unusual about them07:05
superflythis is debian unstable, btw07:05
tumbleweedwhat's on the other end of that socket?07:05
superflyI saw this same behaviour on Kubuntu07:05
superflynot a clue07:05
tumbleweedICE sounds familiar. KDE message bus?07:05
superflyhere are a few more lines before that http://pastebin.com/QYcsQbby07:06
tumbleweedlsof /tmp/.ICE-unix/3815 ?07:06
superflytumbleweed: I think it's an X thing, to be honest07:07
superflyhttp://pastebin.com/gDA36n3Y07:07
superflyah, the KDE session manager07:08
tumbleweedstrace it?07:09
tumbleweedhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/58171 seems related07:09
superflyYes, I came across that the last time this happened...07:10
tumbleweedthere are some ubuntu developers chatting ni that bug (still reading it)07:11
tumbleweedah, it trails off at the end07:14
tumbleweedwith avahi being a likely culprit for closing ice connections without notice07:14
superflyok, let's see if I can strace ksmserver07:26
tumbleweedgood luck. I'm exhausted and going to bed07:28
superflyOK... night night07:30
mazalHi guys , who else in Gauteng felt last night's earthquake ?08:05
mazalhttp://m.emsc.eu/earthquake/earthquake.php?id=34647408:05
Kilosnope08:05
mazalWas scary , at first I thought it is the mine , then it might be another teller being blown up , but as the shacking continued I realized it must be a quake08:06
mazalHere in Cullinan we all felt it08:07
Kiloswow08:08
Kilosinetpro, ^^ did you feel it?08:09
Kilosmind you mazal arent you about 100ks from pta central08:10
mazal50km08:10
mazalAnd my mind immediately went to the chapter we studied last night , Matthew 2408:10
mazalWhere is 3000km South of PTA ? Must be in the ocean yes ?08:11
Kilosyes08:12
Kilosabout 1500 to capetown08:13
Kilosoh thats by road08:13
mazalSjoe08:13
mazalOom Kilos have you ever used mint ?08:13
Kilosnope08:13
Kilosive used mate on ubuntu though08:14
mazalSaw a few screenshots online last night of Mint 16 , looks really beautiful08:14
Kilosisnt that a mint thing08:14
mazalI dunno , I think so08:14
Kilosi dont worry beautiful. everything must just work08:14
Kilosya man mate and cinnamon08:15
mazalCall me old school , but that menu looks so much better than the unity thing08:15
Kilosoh like gnome208:15
mazalYa , nut way better08:15
Kiloslike maverick08:15
mazalThe menu has lots of extra info08:15
mazalAnd features08:16
Kilos10.10 was and still is the easiest for me08:16
Squirm-morning08:16
mazalReminded me a bit of K's menu08:16
Kiloshi Squirm- 08:16
mazalMorning Squirm- 08:16
=== Squirm- is now known as Squirm
KilosQA, distance pretoria to capetown08:17
QAKilos: *blink*08:17
Kiloshmm...08:17
ThatGraemeGuy1458km according to google maps08:18
Kilosty ThatGraemeGuy 08:18
mazalQA in a blinking mood again today hehehe08:19
QAmazal: Excuse me?08:19
mazalQA sjoes en gaan maak koffie08:19
QAmazal: Huh?08:19
Kilosi got the command wrong08:19
Kilosyou see maaz is dead08:20
mazalDidn't even see that08:20
Kilosthats why i sent QA here08:20
KilosQA, coffee on08:20
* QA flips the salt-timer08:20
mazalqa coffee please08:21
QAmazal: Okay08:21
mazalQA snappy snappy snappe08:23
QAmazal: *blink*08:23
QACoffee's ready for Kilos and mazal!08:24
KilosQA, ty08:24
QAYou're welcome Kilos08:24
mazalqa , dankie08:24
QAmazal: That didn't go down very well. Burp.08:24
mazalqa , thank you08:25
QAmazal: not at all08:25
Kilosoh my08:25
mazalish08:25
inetprococooncrash: what happened to Maaz?08:26
Kilosthere she fixed for dankie now08:26
inetproKilos: no I didn't feel it 08:26
Kilosno time to get her up to date with maaz08:26
Kilosmazal, where was the epicentre08:27
inetproKilos: but I noticed people all around us feeling/experiencing the shakes08:27
Kilosaha08:27
Kilosmainly to the east looks like08:27
inetprofrom Jhb, Midrand, Pretoria, kwaNdebele, Shoshanguve and all the way to Warmbad08:28
mazalKilos the info says 3048km south of pta08:28
inetproand then I even noticed people talking about Hartebeespoort Dam and as far as Polokwane08:28
Kiloswow08:28
Kilossjoe i musta been asleep08:29
inetprobut there was definitely nothing at my house08:29
Kilosnor here08:30
inetprothe Magalies mountain is rock solid08:30
charlgood morning08:31
Kilosyeah08:34
Kiloshi charl 08:34
charlhi Kilos 08:35
charlwhere's Maaz08:35
Kiloshaving a break08:35
charlhe's our coffee maid, who said he can take a break08:35
Kilosor the server be broke08:35
Kiloshehe08:35
charlit's a pity maaz isn't from a japanese maid cafe, otherise he would have made us omuraisu too08:36
Kilosdo you eat wasabi08:40
Kilosserious burn but lekker flavour08:42
ThatGraemeGuyfun fact, unless you eat it in japan and pay a pretty penny, chances are that you aren't actually eating real wasabi but a horseradish/mustard/food colouring mixture08:45
Kilosyeah sad hey08:45
ThatGraemeGuywasabi plants are quite rare and generally only cultivated in japan08:46
Kilosyeah and not an easy thing to grow. temp of 8 to 20 degrees c and humid08:47
Kilosweather buiding from the south again08:54
Kilosbuilding08:54
Kilosai! from the north08:54
Kiloshi psyatw 09:20
psyatwhi Kilos09:20
mazalOom Kilos , I'm going to install mate on my 12.04 and try it out10:45
Kilosit was faster10:46
mazalWill do at home where I have uncapped. Will probably be quite a download10:47
mazalGaan aanhou soek tot ek happy is met my DE10:49
mazalDalk sommer kubuntu-desktop ook try , dan hoef ek mos nie oor te install nie10:49
Kilosja dis reg10:49
Kilosmate is naby aan die ou ubuntu10:50
Kilos10.10 style10:50
mazalAg daar werk die eerste install command vir mate al klaar nie **sigh**10:52
Kilosai!10:52
Kiloswat doen jy verkeerd10:52
mazalNiks , copy en paste die command10:53
mazalUnable to find package errors10:53
psyatwhi mazal10:53
psyatwwhy are you using such old distributions?10:53
psyatwnewer ones don´t function anymore?10:54
psyatwor have become too bloated?10:54
mazalThe new ones are too full of bugs and apps don't work with them psyatw 10:54
Kiloshttp://mate-desktop.org/install/10:54
psyatwmazal, what kind of bugs?10:54
Kilosyou using that10:54
mazalMany10:54
psyatwI know10:55
psyatwbut that was the reason why I never considered ubuntu before 10.0410:55
psyatwit was always too buggy10:55
mazalCan't even remember them all , 13.04 drove me back to 12.04 with many issues. And the only 9 months support thing forcing re-installs every 6 months is also a total killer10:55
Kilos12.04 is good man10:55
mazalWell it's stablish10:56
mazalNot totally stable though10:56
psyatw and only now with kubuntu 13.04 do I find it usable10:56
mazalBut at least the apps works10:56
Kilosmine is totally stable in unity and kde10:56
Kilos13.10 kubuntu is lekker as well10:57
Kilosyou got something sick there mazal remember10:57
mazalYeah , thing is though , it got that way by itself. Hence I say it's not stable10:58
Kiloshaha10:59
Kilosnow you want to put mate onto that faulty system11:00
Kilosdo a clean install first man11:00
Kilosno good installing another de onto a faulty system11:01
mazalThat link you gave me at least hasn't bombed out on a command yet11:02
Kilosyay11:02
mazalThink that site I was had something wrong in their commands11:03
mazalOi you see , my curiosity got me doing it here now where I don't have uncapped :P11:04
Kilosai!11:07
Kilosyou want to borrow my email addy?11:07
Kilosmaybe goosie is finished with it now11:08
mazalAh well , guess now is a good time as I made an image 3 hours ago11:10
mazalIf I break it , better now that later11:10
mazalI should have tried it on Barry's pc , he is on leave lol11:12
Kiloslol11:13
mazalIt's installing a lot of stuff from the ubuntu repos ?11:14
Kilosyes11:14
mazalThoght everything would come from the mate ppa11:14
Kilosyou end up with many mate packages and whatever dependancies they need as well11:14
* mazal whistles a tune11:17
mazalThese times when I miss my 4mb line11:17
mazalBTW oom , you don't know if those new guys of remastersys has made progress yet ?11:18
mazalOk , here we go , rebooting to mate. Will be back.......hopefully11:20
mazalCool , this is so retro :)11:26
mazalHad a quick look around , can't find Ubuntu one ?11:27
Kiloslol11:42
mazalMan this reminds me of the good old gnome2 days :)11:46
Kiloshaha11:46
mazalJust needs to get used to using menus again and placing shortcuts11:47
mazalBye everyone , enjoy your evening12:37
Kiloswbb12:38
charlok back13:43
charlsorry got really busy today13:43
Kilosnp13:46
charlKilos: i *love* wasabi or anything else that is spicy14:04
charlKilos: indian food, hot curry, karreraisu (as the japanese call it), cayenne peppers, chilli peppers, etc14:04
charlhot mustard is also good14:04
Kilosi found a jap site that exports real wasabe14:09
Kilosdunno the price though14:09
Kilosi was looking for seeds or plants. i think a bathroom should maybe give the right humidity and temp14:10
Kiloshow do i convert 0.198367346939 ft to metric15:14
Kilos6.0462cm15:21
Kilosbrat did it15:21
KilosMaaz, wb17:07
MaazThank you so much Kilos my good good friend17:07
Kilosty cocooncrash 17:07
KilosMaaz, forecast pretoria17:08
MaazKilos: Monday: Mostly Cloudy. High: 27° C., Monday Night: Mostly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Tuesday: Thunderstorm. High: 28° C., Tuesday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 17° C., Wednesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 29° C., Wednesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 16° C., Thursday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 27° C., Thursday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:17:08
Maaz15° C., Friday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 26° C., Friday Night: Chance of a Thunde…17:08
charlMaaz: you late, where's my coffee been today17:15
Maazcharl: *blink*17:15
charlhe makes me coffee every day and now he's decided to go awol17:16
Kiloshehe17:18
charlhi nlsthzn 17:23
nlsthznalo charl and all17:25
Kiloshi nlsthzn 17:37
nlsthznalo uncle Kilos17:37
nlsthznMy daughter is flying on the 14th so your hardware will be in SA in little more than a week ;)17:37
Kilosoooowweeeee17:37
nlsthznI just need to get some packaging material ASAP :p17:38
Kiloswhere is she going nlsthzn ?17:39
Kiloscity wise i mean17:39
nlsthznBoksburg for the most part AFAIK17:39
Kilosah17:39
nlsthznbut we will still talk about how to get it to you...17:40
Kiloscool.17:46
* nlsthzn goes to earn some money17:47
charlhi psychicist 18:18
Kilosnight all of ya. sleep tight18:57

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